This is exactly what I needed to get me moving forward to the next level. Mark is awesome and has been a huge help on Facebook. Can't thank you enough for this video!
I still have it and I use it. I didn’t buy the second version. I’m glad the video helped. If you have any questions let me know and then just give me time to respond. I wish you the best of luck. It’s a nice system.
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks. I do have a quick question: if I hook up solar to charge, does it connect to the Smart Home Panel some way or just directly to the Delta Pros?
@roytaylor4578 directly to each of the Delta pros. So each of the Delta pros can actually handle if I’m remember correctly 1600 Watts of solar but double check that because I don’t have that information in front of me right now.
I believe you need to remove the jumper on the smart panel to use split phase. That would dedicate a Delta Pro string to 5 breakers each. Also it would allow you to use 240v devices like cook top or ac with a softstar device 😉. Great video by the way... p.s hello Brooklyn.
I don’t have panel yet. I just ordered it. I was thinking the same thing might be true. Thanks for helping to confirm that. I would love to see and update video done on this Smart Panel.
Exactly what i needed thanks. I have your same set up except with 3 400w panels in series x 2 for max 2400w. Now with your instructions i can set it up.
Thank you for the short review. This panel would really be a good accessory to the Delta Pro. I mean I can specifically pinpoint which breakers can be powered when the power is out
Purchased 2 main units 2 batteries, 2 smart generators, smart home panel with 8 335w solar panels for my roof. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Your videos really solidified my decision many thanks 🙏. Have heard rumors of a add on that will allow more solar input and additional battery inputs. That would be next level . Great context thanks again 👍
Looking into the smart home panel also in combination with the power kit instead of a Delta Pro 's... Ecoflow told me that you can inject more solar in that kind of setup ..
Thank you! This is very helpfull for my decision process to buy the Smart Home Panel. I have a Delta Pro an shortly feeding it with 2S2P 450W Panels.I also have EcoFlow smart dual Generator (a great combination!) My plan was to feed the Pool Pump during summer. My Problem with Delta Pro is, that while AC input is connected and Solar Input is connected it is not automatically switching from solar to AC and vice versa. I was hoping to overcome this with the Smart Home Panel. Similar to the EcoFlow smart Generator, where you can set limits for charging and discharging. Does not look like I can realise this running my pool with mainly solar automated. Since I am often away from home I can not always manually switch between AC and solar when the weather changes.... I will check if there are other systems (Bluetti?) where I can realise this.
What a great set up. I have grid-tied now but we will move soon and under the new California rules this set up with batteries and not grid-tied seems the best option. Wouldn't it be better to go with a big battery with single inverter combo? Maybe simpler with less points of failure?
I absolutely love your setup sir, and appreciate you breaking everything down to help get the best understanding of every function and how to use them properly to get the most use out of the system. My only complaint regarding ecoflow is that everything has to be turned on & off manually it's kinda annoying if you ask me, but again that's just the opinion of one. I don't understand why they don't just write a code that gives these units that exact function seeing how they're able to update anyhow 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Is there a max distance the Smart Panel can be from your breaker box? My home has 2 panels, main + sub. Most of the circuits I'd be backing up are on the sub, but there are a couple of 20 amp circuits out in the main that I had added (and no more room in the sub). My sub is in my garage but in the summer it gets incredibly hot in there and I don't want to leaves my batteries out there. I have a small closet upstairs in my home and wondering if I can run extended input and output wiring from the sub and main panels.
Hi, I have the exact same equipment as you but different solar panels. Your video is very helpful since I find ecoflow manuals inadequate, and the app a little cryptic. Im all electric, and do not have my electric range, heat pump or washer/dryers on a smart panel circuit. If I automate to have my panel switch to backup from grid every day at certain times, when it is switched is there still grid power going to my range and other items not on the smart panel? Or when it switches, the grid is completely off to everything?
Thanks! This video is really helpful. Do you think a single delta pro can with 3600w can handle 120v circuits in a home? I’m trying to decide if I need two delta pros or can go with one delta pro and add more down the line, if needed. What would happen if you put more load than it can handle on a single delta pro?
Very nice. I didn't even know one could do this. I am pretty clueless evidently. I looked through the comments to see if my question had been posed but didn't see anything. Probably due to software updates, my app does not look like yours. When I go to the "Circuits" window I do not see all 10 circuits like you have. It looks as if they are doubled up. In the bottom right-hand corner of the first circuit, it says "1 "2 with a symbol between the 1 and 2 that I do not recognize (might be a chain link symbol which, if it is, I cannot "break"). Same for the other circuits (3 (symbol) 4, etc.). When I select one of the "double" circuits I can then do the "auto mode" but I can't just do, for example, just number 1, 1 and 2 are done together. Sorry, that I can't be more precise as, like I said, I am kind of clueless. Is this normal? Or did it get set up incorrectly? Thanks
Hi first question for you is what country are you in because you might have a SmartHome panel specifically for your country? also, what SmartHome panel do you have? Do you have the first one or do you have the second one the new one?
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks for your response. I am in the USA, outside Chicago. And I have the first edition Smart Panel, looks like yours. I didn't even know there was a second one. I haven't had the Smart Panel very long so the second one must have come out relatively recently. Thanks
All right well you’re a local guy anyway the app is updated. That’s why it looks different. I recorded this video a while ago. The date should be on the video. What let me know what questions you have.
I have GFCI outlets and I use the panel and have no issues but I did hear rumor as well. Definitely check with EcoFlow for the final word support@ecoflow.com
Can the Smart Home Panel detect when there is excess solar is being produced by my grid tied panels, and charge the batteries only when there is excess available? I believe the Tesla Powerwall can do this, but I can't seem to figure out if the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel can.
@@TechMadeEzy Actually not true. Maybe they recently did a firmware update because I have only had my smart home panel for a few weeks. In settings you have to turn on "EPS mode". It then acts as a UPS and will not damage or power down sensitive electronics when the grid power goes out. It switches in about 20 milliseconds in this mode. In this mode it keeps the inverters powered on so they can rapidly switch over. If you turn off "EPS mode" it acts the way it does in your video and takes about 2 seconds to power the inverter back on and switch to batteries just like if you had a standby generator just faster. This mode allows you to save wear and tear on your batteries / inverter so it's exclusively used as a backup generator. The batteries will then last an incredible amount of years. Also uses less power to run the inverter. Inverter uses about 35 watts just to stay powered on. I have lost power a few times lately during storms and had no idea it went out. Was while watching TV with several lights on and surfing the web like I am now, never lost internet or wifi. I only knew the power went out by looking in the app in the log the next day. I think this is one of the most amazing features of the smart home panel. I have had a single Delta Pro for a long time before the smart home panel hooked up as a UPS by having it plugged in to the wall and my cable modem, wifi , small freezer and Pellet Stove plugged in the front in and none of them die when the power goes out. It's a seamless switchover. Now with Delta Pro and the smart home panel you can chose EPS mode or generator mode. Just awesome. Might need a firmware update if you do not see EPS mode in settings.
Kyle it’s 30ms or less stated in the manual. Go to support and download the manual it’s not a UPS , it simply has the EPS feature websiteoss.ecoflow.com/cms/upload/2022/10/12/1312845623_1665543468829.pdf
@@TechMadeEzy The manual says 30Ms or less and the app says “within 20ms”, thats where I got that from. I wonder how quick it is in reality? It fits the definition of a UPS according to Wikipedia for one. “The switch-over time can be as long as 25 milliseconds depending on the amount of time it takes the standby UPS to detect the lost utility voltage. The UPS will be designed to power certain equipment, such as a personal computer, without any objectionable dip or brownout to that device.” In my experience it works just fine for personal computers, modems, wifi etc. That was my point and it falls within the definition of consumer grade devices. Depends on what he meant by UPS. Not all UPS are zero millisecond switch over. Those are more expensive and are for sensitive electronics like servers that require zero switch over time. You said “computers” and I do not believe that’s 100% true. Most UPS you buy at places like Best Buy or other retailers are between 6-12ms sometimes more. It still may work for zero ms if setup properly. You can set up the circuit the server is on to Battery mode and it will always be working off the battery / inverter. If the grid power goes out it would have no bearing on functionality of the inverter as it was already powering the device exclusively from the battery and not the grid. You would essentially have zero ms all the time. The default circuit mode is “Auto” which automatically switches to battery if the grid goes down. With EPS mode turned on it switches within 20-30ms time we are talking about depending where you look. If EPS mode is off it takes about 2 seconds and you get temporary power loss and will lose PC’s ETC. If you turn Auto mode off at the circuit level you will then have 3 options: 1: Use Grid Power 2: Use battery 3: Off Its a pure sine wave inverter. Would turning on #2 work for a server? If so this can be used for both consumer devices and servers. Since the App says “within 20ms” I am curious to what it actually is. Anybody have equipment to test it? From EcoFlow Tech support website regarding this issue: “All EcoFlow power stations can be an emergency power source (EPS), which will have the same result as UPS for most electronics.” I am now very curious. The documentation is not very clear...
EcoFlow themselves does not use the word UPS for legal reason and they’ve updated and uploaded new manuals many times. If they have not done so then all I can go by is what they state which is EPS.
Do you know if you can create automations with Delta Pro Ultra and Smart Panel 2? I called EcoFlow & they seem to indicate it can’t be done and to use Smart Panel “scheduled tasks” instead.
Hi, I just didn’t have the money to continue to upgrade especially the new panel and of course the new power stations. So I don’t have that experience but I would think that you can do the same if not more with the SmartHome panel 2 and the ultra which is an amazing power station. Sorry I couldn’t be as much help
I really am liking the Smart Home Panel. Looks like it is a backup circuit breaker that can make the power transition from the grid to the Delta Pro effortless. As if nothing has happened.
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but your 160 watt panels are bottle necking your 400 watt panels. You end up with 18.2V x 4 panels x 8.8 amps = 640.64 watts. I saw on your ecoflow screen you were getting a little under 600 watts from solar. If you just had the two 400 watt panels in series you'd get 41V x 2 x 9.8 A = 803 watts.
Have you had any problems getting the app to connect? I had my SHP installed yesterday and the app was running fine all day today, then I went to the store and came back and I can't get it to connect.
Make sure your app is updated Turn on your Bluetooth so you can connect that way also besides WiFi Once you do connect check for a firmware update , might be a few firmware updates .
Intresting that u can have a eco flow power box into mains. Would love to know a aprox how many kw per day you need to produce to run a small 2 bed appartment. Then the cost to buy and set up you system. Do the Gov tax your system?? On self generated power ? If not ot will come Sun tax
Thanks for the video. Have one DP and one EcoFlow 400 W solar panel. Once we purchase a new home in AZ I want to expand our EcoFlow system including a solar tracker for the 400 W panel. Have you used the tracker and if so does it really enhance to electricity production over a 6-8 hour timeframe? Of course I want to get the SMP as well. Thanks for your advice
Question: what if you have both pro’s hooked up to max solar and switch the discharge cut off at 30%. Would they switch back and forth allowing the one not being used to charge back up?
I like the Smart Home Panel a lot and would like to install it here in Germany. However, having one a question: what happens if you produce more solar power than you can directly use internally via the SHP? Is the access energy fed to the public grid or does the Delta Pro shuts down the solar feed avoiding this?
That's more about rooftop solar the smart home panel to my knowledge at this point cannot be connected to any type of system like that all you can do is stay within the specs of the Delta Pro using portable or rigid type panels but not a whole rooftop setup
@@TechMadeEzy You can connect any solar module as long as you don't exceed the specs of the Delta Pro. Therefore, a roof top system is also possible and was confirmed by eco flow in Germany. You loose appr. 5 Watt every 10 meter cable length when connecting far away modules to the Delta Pro according to eco flow, In my case I will use three modules each 460 Wp in serial and will stay below 150V the max input for the inverter of Delta Pro, Because of legal situation in Germany it would be good to know whether any power can be fed back into the public grid when solar access is there.
Interesting, I work directly with EcoFlow and never heard that but that's good news in your case. Well, best of luck make sure you get some information from them on how that connects and just be careful and make sure they will warranty your Delta Pro. Thanks
with a smart panel on the way, it was definitely helpful. My problem is going to be: I have a potential 4kW of solar on the roof and my one Delta Pro can only take 1.6kW. I will probably get a second Delta Pro and use a second solar cable set (which is going through an old chimney...) to split up solar power to 2kW per Delta Pro. I hope to have 1.6kW of solar even in fall and spring. Also, how do your Delta Pro behave at dusk and dawn when there is less than 40W of solar input, is there obnoxious power relay clicking from the mpp tracker in the Delta Pro?
1st congrats 🎉 you are gonna love this SmartHome panel it’s not perfect but it’s so cool that you can actually get one and do the things that this can do I’ve heard that sound definitely. I don’t keep my solar plugged in all the time but that’s me because I have a small set up and I don’t have rooftop solar.
For the automation settings, I'm seeing "Schedule" and "Power Outage" as the IF options. Are there any others? Like "Battery %"?? IF battery is between 90% to 100% turn on Basement Circuit.
How does your setup manages the rebalancing of power capacity between delta pro and the additional battery packs? I have the delta pro plus one battery pack and observe a real strange rebalancing between the units. E.g. I set the draining to 20% and as a result the battery pack goes down to 1% and the delta pro stops at about 35%.
@@CharlieArehart1 The rebalancing is still a problem, with my first set of DP Pro+battery. However, I bought another DP Pro + Battery and made first a calibration and that helped at lot. The SHP has nothing to do with this as far as I could observe.
Using the home panel---Do you suppose this would qualify under the Fed Tax credit (if the batteries are primarily charged by solar)? That would be a significant benefit again the high investment .
Do you know if its possible to daisy chain smart home panels together? For instance, I would like to run 2 smart home panels connected to 6 batteries. Im guessing you COULD just do 1 panel per 3 pack of batteries, but then you are a bit limited on the overall numbers.
Hi Ryan, thanks for watching the video I really don't know I know you can have two smart home panels in your home but daisy chaining them together I really don't know you probably have to email EcoFlow and see what they say support@ecoflow.com
I am electronically useless and not nearly assertive enough. This is a very educational video. However, I am still having problems with steps prior to the setting up of the smart home panel. I am not using solar, grid power only. I cannot get the smart home panel connected to wif-fi and have no idea how to trouble shoot that problem. Both the Delta Pros are connected to the Panel and to the Wi-Fi...what do you suggest?
Can you over the different conditions that can be used for the automations? Like is it possible to power a circuit until the battery reaches 25% and then switch to grid?
No I haven’t seen that capability it is pretty limited but again there aren’t many SmartHome panels out there at this time. Also EcoFlow is still doing firmware updates so you never know
I'm not sure if that's a possibility if the smart home panel is set up in parallel mode, this supports 240v. I currently have it set up in single phase but I could always switch to parallel mode if I want to in the future
The power is drawn fairly evenly from both Delta Pros (and their batteries). It switches from one set to the other when wired single phase. So many % at a time. If wired for split phase it takes one delta pro for each side of the panels.
The app that you are using, is it Bluetooth? Or do you need internet? Reason I ask we had a storm lost all cell services and internet for 4 days plus power was out for 6 days. How well will system work with everything out?
When we lost power and internet and all cell service, all my ring cameras where useless, as well as all other smart devices. It was a eye opener. We Had a generator. Just trying to make sure you can still connect to the units using a tablet or phone . I like the set up you have , just want to be sure I can still connect to the units .
You won't really need to connect to them but you can via Bluetooth. Bottom line they will power the 10 circuits that you choose. 240v appliances will require 2 delta pro and a certain setup (split phase)
Tax help (26% at the moment, of the entire cost of battery units (and main delta pros) and the smart panel and solar panels and set up costs). It kinda helps... and if you don't pay enough tax to get the whole lot next year, the remainder carries over to the following year(s). Everything that is directly part of this solar system is covered for this tax relief.
Those are the hours you wanted to run the automation you have to put a start time in and then you have to go back in and put an end time. You can also put dates so you can have it run for a couple of days.
@jeromeallen9623 I wish I could help. It’s kind of hard to do it this way your best bet may be sending a small video to EcoFlow email support is pretty good support@ecoflow.com
@@TechMadeEzy Figured it out - quite by accident - the circuits need to be in “auto mode” for the automation to work. Mine that would not work were in “use grid power” Thanks again!
@@TechMadeEzy If EPS is chosen, the switch from Grid to Battery is microseconds. Mostly one does not notice (lights don't dim, etc..) Only two little lights in my home turn to standby through the change but they are little desk LEDs. With everything else in the house the change is so quick, you don't realize the change in supply has even been made!
@@TechMadeEzy how can I set that up? In automation page, I only see a Schedule based setup to recharge, but I don’t see a battery level based condition
Select your panel then select the small bolt for settings in the upper right then 8 settings down you will see circuit , click on that then name each one
Hello, I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro. It's currently plugged into an electrical outlet then give power to some appliances, and I would like to program it so it charges at off-peak hours (from 9PM to 4PM next day) and does not charge during on-peak hours (from 4PM to 9PM). Is there a way to do this other than manually unplugging the Ecoflow Delta Pro? I tried to use Automation on the app and did not see a way to do this. The reason is power consume at off peak hours gets bill at $0.146/kwh and at on-peak hours gets bill at $0.263/kwh. I would save almost $0.12 for each kwh, but the hassle of plug and unplug it manually.
@@TechMadeEzy No, I do not. Do I need that to make DP not charging at the time I want it stops charging? I can plug it in switched outlet to cut grid power to it just like the light switch for the room. Remember how we using the VCR to record the TV program we want to record for watch later? The DP should has that feature.
What happens if the grid goes down. How does it not send power back to the grid? I can't seem to find any info on it. I don't want any workers getting lite up.
I've been using this now since launch I haven't had any issues there are many users that are using this. Power isn't sent to the electronic company of that's what you are talking about.
I took a look at the automations, and I just don’t see how to do that but I’m pretty sure there’s a way I’ve never done that. I know you can set charge and discharge limits on the Delta pros.
Yes, so happy that I haven’t upgraded to the new system. There’s no reason for me to spend the additional money.. they have a new smart home panel 2 and they just came out with a new Delta pro 3 and the delta pro ultra
FAntastic Information. Your videos are awesome and informative. Thanks so much!!!!!
Thanks Stephen much appreciated happy new year
Thanks!
Thank you so much tell me what helped you I really want to know is there anything specific that helped you
This is exactly what I needed to get me moving forward to the next level. Mark is awesome and has been a huge help on Facebook. Can't thank you enough for this video!
Glad it was helpful
I just got my Smart Home Panel installed yesterday and found your video very helpful in helping me set up the panel using the app. Thank you!
I still have it and I use it. I didn’t buy the second version. I’m glad the video helped. If you have any questions let me know and then just give me time to respond. I wish you the best of luck. It’s a nice system.
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks. I do have a quick question: if I hook up solar to charge, does it connect to the Smart Home Panel some way or just directly to the Delta Pros?
@roytaylor4578 directly to each of the Delta pros. So each of the Delta pros can actually handle if I’m remember correctly 1600 Watts of solar but double check that because I don’t have that information in front of me right now.
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Thank you
Hi Brooklyn! Dogs are good people!
She's no longer with us she recently went to heaven but thank you I'm definitely a dog person
I believe you need to remove the jumper on the smart panel to use split phase. That would dedicate a Delta Pro string to 5 breakers each. Also it would allow you to use 240v devices like cook top or ac with a softstar device 😉. Great video by the way... p.s hello Brooklyn.
I believe you're right I only have it set up in single phase right now thanks for your comment 👍🏻
I don’t have panel yet. I just ordered it. I was thinking the same thing might be true. Thanks for helping to confirm that. I would love to see and update video done on this Smart Panel.
Best explanation I have found. Well done!
I will subscribe to more.
Thank you I appreciate that welcome to the family
I am really planning that my home be self reliant from the grid and with this panel plus the solar panels and all. It can bear into fruition.
Thank you - that was extremely helpful and helped me figure out why things were not working the way I expected.
Glad it could help
Exactly what i needed thanks. I have your same set up except with 3 400w panels in series x 2 for max 2400w. Now with your instructions i can set it up.
Thanks John I’m glad I could help. Definitely let me know if you need any help or have any questions ok
Excellent and clear. Set up my overnight recharge schedule with your help. 👍🏻
Awesome thanks I’m glad it helped
Thank you for the short review. This panel would really be a good accessory to the Delta Pro. I mean I can specifically pinpoint which breakers can be powered when the power is out
Great stuff - thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Purchased 2 main units 2 batteries, 2 smart generators, smart home panel with 8 335w solar panels for my roof. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Your videos really solidified my decision many thanks 🙏. Have heard rumors of a add on that will allow more solar input and additional battery inputs. That would be next level . Great context thanks again 👍
Thanks best of luck
Looking into the smart home panel also in combination with the power kit instead of a Delta Pro 's... Ecoflow told me that you can inject more solar in that kind of setup ..
I think I am going to need this Smart Home Panel connected to my Delta Pro so that the transition from grid to backup power will be seamless.
Thanks for Information, I have the same setup and it’s great 👍
My pleasure
Thank you! This is very helpfull for my decision process to buy the Smart Home Panel.
I have a Delta Pro an shortly feeding it with 2S2P 450W Panels.I also have EcoFlow smart dual Generator (a great combination!) My plan was to feed the Pool Pump during summer.
My Problem with Delta Pro is, that while AC input is connected and Solar Input is connected it is not automatically switching from solar to AC and vice versa.
I was hoping to overcome this with the Smart Home Panel. Similar to the EcoFlow smart Generator, where you can set limits for charging and discharging. Does not look like I can realise this running my pool with mainly solar automated. Since I am often away from home I can not always manually switch between AC and solar when the weather changes....
I will check if there are other systems (Bluetti?) where I can realise this.
Might want to email Ecoflow and go over this before looking into another smart home panel. Support@ecoflow.com
What a great set up. I have grid-tied now but we will move soon and under the new California rules this set up with batteries and not grid-tied seems the best option. Wouldn't it be better to go with a big battery with single inverter combo? Maybe simpler with less points of failure?
Thanks. As far as your question, this works for me and I love that it’s expandable.
I absolutely love your setup sir, and appreciate you breaking everything down to help get the best understanding of every function and how to use them properly to get the most use out of the system.
My only complaint regarding ecoflow is that everything has to be turned on & off manually it's kinda annoying if you ask me, but again that's just the opinion of one. I don't understand why they don't just write a code that gives these units that exact function seeing how they're able to update anyhow 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Thanks Bryan
If you run an automation and it's on battery when the battery is die down it can switch back to the grid, no need to do that manually
@@TechMadeEzy ahhh okay cool thanks for the fyi
Is there a max distance the Smart Panel can be from your breaker box? My home has 2 panels, main + sub. Most of the circuits I'd be backing up are on the sub, but there are a couple of 20 amp circuits out in the main that I had added (and no more room in the sub). My sub is in my garage but in the summer it gets incredibly hot in there and I don't want to leaves my batteries out there. I have a small closet upstairs in my home and wondering if I can run extended input and output wiring from the sub and main panels.
Hi best to email Ecoflow on that to be safe
Support@ecoflow.com
Very helpful, the Ecoflow instruction manual doesn't do a good job of explaining how to create automation. Thank you for the explanation.
Thanks Novo
One thing I really like the Smart Home Panel is when I use it for peak rate avoidance so I can actually lower my power bill.
Definitely, I wish that was available in all states
Great video I can’t wait to get mine sorted
Thank you and stay in touch let me know how yours goes
Does the panel charge the DP when it's all set to use grid power? If not, how do you keep the second DP set charged up?
It can solar charge while powering the home, you can have up the 1600 W of solar on each Delta pro
Can you demonstrate an overload with both on-grid and on-battery with the Smart Home Panel?
It won’t be something I can do now, but I’ll keep it in mind
Hi, I have the exact same equipment as you but different solar panels. Your video is very helpful since I find ecoflow manuals inadequate, and the app a little cryptic. Im all electric, and do not have my electric range, heat pump or washer/dryers on a smart panel circuit. If I automate to have my panel switch to backup from grid every day at certain times, when it is switched is there still grid power going to my range and other items not on the smart panel? Or when it switches, the grid is completely off to everything?
Hi thanks Bill
You choose the 10 circuits you want connected and all other circuits run from Grid. I hope that answer the question?
@@TechMadeEzy that's great to know! Thank you!
Thanks! This video is really helpful. Do you think a single delta pro can with 3600w can handle 120v circuits in a home? I’m trying to decide if I need two delta pros or can go with one delta pro and add more down the line, if needed. What would happen if you put more load than it can handle on a single delta pro?
You can always try it and if you need another one by another one I’ve had mine for a while now and I’m pretty impressed
Very nice. I didn't even know one could do this. I am pretty clueless evidently. I looked through the comments to see if my question had been posed but didn't see anything. Probably due to software updates, my app does not look like yours. When I go to the "Circuits" window I do not see all 10 circuits like you have. It looks as if they are doubled up. In the bottom right-hand corner of the first circuit, it says "1 "2 with a symbol between the 1 and 2 that I do not recognize (might be a chain link symbol which, if it is, I cannot "break"). Same for the other circuits (3 (symbol) 4, etc.). When I select one of the "double" circuits I can then do the "auto mode" but I can't just do, for example, just number 1, 1 and 2 are done together. Sorry, that I can't be more precise as, like I said, I am kind of clueless. Is this normal? Or did it get set up incorrectly? Thanks
Hi first question for you is what country are you in because you might have a SmartHome panel specifically for your country?
also, what SmartHome panel do you have? Do you have the first one or do you have the second one the new one?
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks for your response. I am in the USA, outside Chicago. And I have the first edition Smart Panel, looks like yours. I didn't even know there was a second one. I haven't had the Smart Panel very long so the second one must have come out relatively recently. Thanks
All right well you’re a local guy anyway the app is updated. That’s why it looks different. I recorded this video a while ago. The date should be on the video. What let me know what questions you have.
Great idea check it out new Eco flow delta pro ultra 3 system 90(KWH power whole house
I read somewhere that if you have GFCI outlets it might need another piece of equipment?
I have GFCI outlets and I use the panel and have no issues but I did hear rumor as well. Definitely check with EcoFlow for the final word support@ecoflow.com
Can the Smart Home Panel detect when there is excess solar is being produced by my grid tied panels, and charge the batteries only when there is excess available? I believe the Tesla Powerwall can do this, but I can't seem to figure out if the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel can.
No it cannot.
I see the power turns off when you switch it to batteries. Does it mean it can't be used as a UPS?
Hi Pavlo Not for sensitive electronics like computers etc and it’s not fast enough
@@TechMadeEzy Actually not true. Maybe they recently did a firmware update because I have only had my smart home panel for a few weeks. In settings you have to turn on "EPS mode". It then acts as a UPS and will not damage or power down sensitive electronics when the grid power goes out. It switches in about 20 milliseconds in this mode. In this mode it keeps the inverters powered on so they can rapidly switch over. If you turn off "EPS mode" it acts the way it does in your video and takes about 2 seconds to power the inverter back on and switch to batteries just like if you had a standby generator just faster. This mode allows you to save wear and tear on your batteries / inverter so it's exclusively used as a backup generator. The batteries will then last an incredible amount of years. Also uses less power to run the inverter. Inverter uses about 35 watts just to stay powered on. I have lost power a few times lately during storms and had no idea it went out. Was while watching TV with several lights on and surfing the web like I am now, never lost internet or wifi. I only knew the power went out by looking in the app in the log the next day. I think this is one of the most amazing features of the smart home panel. I have had a single Delta Pro for a long time before the smart home panel hooked up as a UPS by having it plugged in to the wall and my cable modem, wifi , small freezer and Pellet Stove plugged in the front in and none of them die when the power goes out. It's a seamless switchover. Now with Delta Pro and the smart home panel you can chose EPS mode or generator mode. Just awesome. Might need a firmware update if you do not see EPS mode in settings.
Kyle it’s 30ms or less stated in the manual. Go to support and download the manual it’s not a UPS , it simply has the EPS feature
websiteoss.ecoflow.com/cms/upload/2022/10/12/1312845623_1665543468829.pdf
@@TechMadeEzy The manual says 30Ms or less and the app says “within 20ms”, thats where I got that from. I wonder how quick it is in reality? It fits the definition of a UPS according to Wikipedia for one. “The switch-over time can be as long as 25 milliseconds depending on the amount of time it takes the standby UPS to detect the lost utility voltage. The UPS will be designed to power certain equipment, such as a personal computer, without any objectionable dip or brownout to that device.”
In my experience it works just fine for personal computers, modems, wifi etc. That was my point and it falls within the definition of consumer grade devices. Depends on what he meant by UPS. Not all UPS are zero millisecond switch over. Those are more expensive and are for sensitive electronics like servers that require zero switch over time. You said “computers” and I do not believe that’s 100% true.
Most UPS you buy at places like Best Buy or other retailers are between 6-12ms sometimes more.
It still may work for zero ms if setup properly. You can set up the circuit the server is on to Battery mode and it will always be working off the battery / inverter. If the grid power goes out it would have no bearing on functionality of the inverter as it was already powering the device exclusively from the battery and not the grid. You would essentially have zero ms all the time.
The default circuit mode is “Auto” which automatically switches to battery if the grid goes down. With EPS mode turned on it switches within 20-30ms time we are talking about depending where you look. If EPS mode is off it takes about 2 seconds and you get temporary power loss and will lose PC’s ETC.
If you turn Auto mode off at the circuit level you will then have 3 options:
1: Use Grid Power
2: Use battery
3: Off
Its a pure sine wave inverter. Would turning on #2 work for a server? If so this can be used for both consumer devices and servers.
Since the App says “within 20ms” I am curious to what it actually is. Anybody have equipment to test it?
From EcoFlow Tech support website regarding this issue: “All EcoFlow power stations can be an emergency power source (EPS), which will have the same result as UPS for most electronics.”
I am now very curious. The documentation is not very clear...
EcoFlow themselves does not use the word UPS for legal reason and they’ve updated and uploaded new manuals many times. If they have not done so then all I can go by is what they state which is EPS.
Do you know if you can create automations with Delta Pro Ultra and Smart Panel 2? I called EcoFlow & they seem to indicate it can’t be done and to use Smart Panel “scheduled tasks” instead.
Hi, I just didn’t have the money to continue to upgrade especially the new panel and of course the new power stations. So I don’t have that experience but I would think that you can do the same if not more with the SmartHome panel 2 and the ultra which is an amazing power station. Sorry I couldn’t be as much help
I really am liking the Smart Home Panel. Looks like it is a backup circuit breaker that can make the power transition from the grid to the Delta Pro effortless. As if nothing has happened.
Thank you for the video. I just got my panel installed yesterday. Same set up as you. How do you rename the circuits?
Congrats 👍🏼 Go to settings and then go to circuit
Thank you
Thank you also
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but your 160 watt panels are bottle necking your 400 watt panels. You end up with 18.2V x 4 panels x 8.8 amps = 640.64 watts. I saw on your ecoflow screen you were getting a little under 600 watts from solar. If you just had the two 400 watt panels in series you'd get 41V x 2 x 9.8 A = 803 watts.
Thanks
I’m curious if they are both off to prevent discharge and the panel detects an outage does it turn them back on?
No, they would have to be on for that to work.
Have you had any problems getting the app to connect? I had my SHP installed yesterday and the app was running fine all day today, then I went to the store and came back and I can't get it to connect.
Make sure your app is updated
Turn on your Bluetooth so you can connect that way also besides WiFi
Once you do connect check for a firmware update , might be a few firmware updates .
Did you have any issues with the the relays? Understand that they came out with improved relays.
Never had a problem with them
Intresting that u can have a eco flow power box into mains. Would love to know a aprox how many kw per day you need to produce to run a small 2 bed appartment. Then the cost to buy and set up you system. Do the Gov tax your system?? On self generated power ? If not ot will come Sun tax
Thanks for the video. Have one DP and one EcoFlow 400 W solar panel. Once we purchase a new home in AZ I want to expand our EcoFlow system including a solar tracker for the 400 W panel. Have you used the tracker and if so does it really enhance to electricity production over a 6-8 hour timeframe? Of course I want to get the SMP as well. Thanks for your advice
Thanks Dan, no I don't have the tracker. Would love to actually.
Question: what if you have both pro’s hooked up to max solar and switch the discharge cut off at 30%. Would they switch back and forth allowing the one not being used to charge back up?
Hi John Not sure good question
I like the Smart Home Panel a lot and would like to install it here in Germany. However, having one a question: what happens if you produce more solar power than you can directly use internally via the SHP? Is the access energy fed to the public grid or does the Delta Pro shuts down the solar feed avoiding this?
That's more about rooftop solar the smart home panel to my knowledge at this point cannot be connected to any type of system like that all you can do is stay within the specs of the Delta Pro using portable or rigid type panels but not a whole rooftop setup
@@TechMadeEzy You can connect any solar module as long as you don't exceed the specs of the Delta Pro. Therefore, a roof top system is also possible and was confirmed by eco flow in Germany. You loose appr. 5 Watt every 10 meter cable length when connecting far away modules to the Delta Pro according to eco flow, In my case I will use three modules each 460 Wp in serial and will stay below 150V the max input for the inverter of Delta Pro,
Because of legal situation in Germany it would be good to know whether any power can be fed back into the public grid when solar access is there.
Interesting, I work directly with EcoFlow and never heard that but that's good news in your case. Well, best of luck make sure you get some information from them on how that connects and just be careful and make sure they will warranty your Delta Pro. Thanks
@@TechMadeEzy Yes, will do. This
with a smart panel on the way, it was definitely helpful. My problem is going to be: I have a potential 4kW of solar on the roof and my one Delta Pro can only take 1.6kW. I will probably get a second Delta Pro and use a second solar cable set (which is going through an old chimney...) to split up solar power to 2kW per Delta Pro. I hope to have 1.6kW of solar even in fall and spring.
Also, how do your Delta Pro behave at dusk and dawn when there is less than 40W of solar input, is there obnoxious power relay clicking from the mpp tracker in the Delta Pro?
1st congrats 🎉
you are gonna love this SmartHome panel it’s not perfect but it’s so cool that you can actually get one and do the things that this can do
I’ve heard that sound definitely. I don’t keep my solar plugged in all the time but that’s me because I have a small set up and I don’t have rooftop solar.
For the automation settings, I'm seeing "Schedule" and "Power Outage" as the IF options. Are there any others? Like "Battery %"??
IF battery is between 90% to 100% turn on Basement Circuit.
unfortunately not, would be nice option to have. lets hope for an update.
How does your setup manages the rebalancing of power capacity between delta pro and the additional battery packs? I have the delta pro plus one battery pack and observe a real strange rebalancing between the units. E.g. I set the draining to 20% and as a result the battery pack goes down to 1% and the delta pro stops at about 35%.
No it doesn’t. Contact EcoFlow they will give you some guidelines around rebalancing.
@@TechMadeEzy ok, will do
@@h.m.9601 HM, did you resolve things? I'm getting the shp and have had that very concern.
@@CharlieArehart1 The rebalancing is still a problem, with my first set of DP Pro+battery. However, I bought another DP Pro + Battery and made first a calibration and that helped at lot. The SHP has nothing to do with this as far as I could observe.
Using the home panel---Do you suppose this would qualify under the Fed Tax credit (if the batteries are primarily charged by solar)? That would be a significant benefit again the high investment .
I don't think so but I'm not an expert
Do you know if its possible to daisy chain smart home panels together? For instance, I would like to run 2 smart home panels connected to 6 batteries. Im guessing you COULD just do 1 panel per 3 pack of batteries, but then you are a bit limited on the overall numbers.
Hi Ryan, thanks for watching the video
I really don't know I know you can have two smart home panels in your home but daisy chaining them together I really don't know you probably have to email EcoFlow and see what they say support@ecoflow.com
I am electronically useless and not nearly assertive enough. This is a very educational video. However, I am still having problems with steps prior to the setting up of the smart home panel. I am not using solar, grid power only. I cannot get the smart home panel connected to wif-fi and have no idea how to trouble shoot that problem. Both the Delta Pros are connected to the Panel and to the Wi-Fi...what do you suggest?
I would contact ecoflow support
Support@ecoflow.com
@@TechMadeEzy Waiting for their response.
@johnlee8910 OK good luck I'm sure it will turn out good
Can you over the different conditions that can be used for the automations? Like is it possible to power a circuit until the battery reaches 25% and then switch to grid?
No I haven’t seen that capability it is pretty limited but again there aren’t many SmartHome panels out there at this time. Also EcoFlow is still doing firmware updates so you never know
@@TechMadeEzy ,sounds good thank you for the reply. Do you know if it integrates with Home Assistant?
My pleasure 👍🏼
It does not but I’m sure some tech Genius can make it happen
You can set the discharge limit to 25% then it will automatically switch back to grid. It's called discharge level in the app settings.
Should be able to, haven’t tried it yet
Would be nice if it’d drain from both DP’s simultaneously to get similar cycles life out of the two units.
I'm not sure if that's a possibility if the smart home panel is set up in parallel mode, this supports 240v. I currently have it set up in single phase but I could always switch to parallel mode if I want to in the future
The power is drawn fairly evenly from both Delta Pros (and their batteries). It switches from one set to the other when wired single phase. So many % at a time. If wired for split phase it takes one delta pro for each side of the panels.
The app that you are using, is it Bluetooth? Or do you need internet? Reason I ask we had a storm lost all cell services and internet for 4 days plus power was out for 6 days. How well will system work with everything out?
It works on Bluetooth and wifi with the delta pro, that's what it's made for, power outages works well from what I see so far
When we lost power and internet and all cell service, all my ring cameras where useless, as well as all other smart devices. It was a eye opener. We Had a generator. Just trying to make sure you can still connect to the units using a tablet or phone . I like the set up you have , just want to be sure I can still connect to the units .
You won't really need to connect to them but you can via Bluetooth. Bottom line they will power the 10 circuits that you choose. 240v appliances will require 2 delta pro and a certain setup (split phase)
Can you connect 2 sets of 2 delta pros each with 2 extra batteries with to the smart home panel ?
Hi Pedro yes
2 DP
Each with 2 Extra batteries 🔋 for sure
@@TechMadeEzy thank you for answering the two extra batteries plugs on the back of the DP and the DP plugs from the front to the smart panel?
The batteries plug in the back of the DP and the smart panel connects to each DP on the right front side infinity port
Are there any federal subsidies on this setup yet? I have not moved forward on this because of the subsidies
Tax help (26% at the moment, of the entire cost of battery units (and main delta pros) and the smart panel and solar panels and set up costs). It kinda helps... and if you don't pay enough tax to get the whole lot next year, the remainder carries over to the following year(s). Everything that is directly part of this solar system is covered for this tax relief.
In automation what does the 0 - 24 stand for? I’m trying to setup automation from 6 am to 6 pm….how do I do that?
Those are the hours you wanted to run the automation you have to put a start time in and then you have to go back in and put an end time. You can also put dates so you can have it run for a couple of days.
@@TechMadeEzy Thanks - I put a in 6 -18 to denote 6am to 6pm - nothing happened -
@jeromeallen9623
I wish I could help. It’s kind of hard to do it this way your best bet may be sending a small video to EcoFlow email support is pretty good support@ecoflow.com
@@TechMadeEzy yes, sir. Thanks for the assistance. I do have the question into them….
@@TechMadeEzy Figured it out - quite by accident - the circuits need to be in “auto mode” for the automation to work. Mine that would not work were in “use grid power”
Thanks again!
Delay when switching a circuit from grid to battery?
Hi Keith
Yes, see the part when I actually do the switch for one circuit and the lights will turn off and turn on.
@@TechMadeEzy If EPS is chosen, the switch from Grid to Battery is microseconds. Mostly one does not notice (lights don't dim, etc..) Only two little lights in my home turn to standby through the change but they are little desk LEDs. With everything else in the house the change is so quick, you don't realize the change in supply has even been made!
Is there a way to have it re-charge when the batteries reach a certain level?
Yes
@@TechMadeEzy how can I set that up? In automation page, I only see a Schedule based setup to recharge, but I don’t see a battery level based condition
Battery levels are set in settings under smart panel settings and under the DP settings
How many 2 pole 30 amp breakers can the smart home panel support?
Hi Thomas I know you can add more 30a but not sure on that question, your best bet is contacting eco-flow sorry I couldn't help
Can you explain how to name the 10 circuits? Thanks
Select your panel then select the small bolt for settings in the upper right then 8 settings down you will see circuit , click on that then name each one
Can the smart panel go above the house panel box?
Sure, don't see why not as long as your electrician is good with wiring and possibly extending wires.
Hello, I have an Ecoflow Delta Pro. It's currently plugged into an electrical outlet then give power to some appliances, and I would like to program it so it charges at off-peak hours (from 9PM to 4PM next day) and does not charge during on-peak hours (from 4PM to 9PM). Is there a way to do this other than manually unplugging the Ecoflow Delta Pro? I tried to use Automation on the app and did not see a way to do this. The reason is power consume at off peak hours gets bill at $0.146/kwh and at on-peak hours gets bill at $0.263/kwh. I would save almost $0.12 for each kwh, but the hassle of plug and unplug it manually.
You have a smart home panel by ecoflow also?
@@TechMadeEzy No, I do not. Do I need that to make DP not charging at the time I want it stops charging? I can plug it in switched outlet to cut grid power to it just like the light switch for the room. Remember how we using the VCR to record the TV program we want to record for watch later? The DP should has that feature.
@junkvista61 you will get automations with the smart home panel. The delta pro doesn't have that by itself.
@@TechMadeEzy EcoFlow is not as smart as VCR decades ago. Bummer.
@junkvista61 sorry
What happens if the grid goes down. How does it not send power back to the grid? I can't seem to find any info on it. I don't want any workers getting lite up.
I've been using this now since launch I haven't had any issues there are many users that are using this. Power isn't sent to the electronic company of that's what you are talking about.
So it's a wireless manual switch?
For 10 circuits plus you can run some automations , charge solar etc.
How do you set up an automation to recharge the battery when it gets to 30%?
I took a look at the automations, and I just don’t see how to do that but I’m pretty sure there’s a way I’ve never done that. I know you can set charge and discharge limits on the Delta pros.
@@TechMadeEzy Thank you. I have the question into ecoflow support. Just installed the panel today - very cool tool.
@jeromeallen9623 enjoy, sorry I couldn’t help much further, but hopefully they’ll have a good answer for you
After a year how is it holding up?
Solid no issues very impressed
Hello, I watched the video, and the microwave still will not open.
Do i need two way meter ?
That I don’t know
Still happy with your setup?
Yes, so happy that I haven’t upgraded to the new system. There’s no reason for me to spend the additional money.. they have a new smart home panel 2 and they just came out with a new Delta pro 3 and the delta pro ultra
Average cost on the panel?
400w $1199 but I’ve seen them go on sale from time to time.
The solar is weak on that unit. 150 volts is not very much for the price point. Should be 300 volts 3000 watts for that price point.
Your right, my panelse sometimes produce app. 1000 volts, any suggestions to make sure not go above 150 volts - - controller or inverter?
I need to get a loan!! Can't afford 😭
I definitely understand, not for everyone but small power stations and many brands are out there as alternatives. Thanks Ali