EcoFlow Delta Pro Ulta Kits: poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ EcoFlow Website: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=368 I decided to take my house 100% off grid using the Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow. I have 14 400w solar panels for 5,600w of solar input to recharge the system. How long will it last?
Could you explain more about the TX & ca Hassle free bundle kit. I was reading in your description about it but didn't see a whole lot on their website. Thanks M.M.!
Ben this is one of your absolute best videos. What I really like about it is that its simply a real life no frills experience and well documented. Thanks very much for posting. I am off to watch your video of the apollo vs the Delta Pro Ultra. Cheers.
I think the biggest issue that you have after watching the video is that you don't have enough battery storage. when you do get those sunny days your system charges very quickly to full and then basically you waste the rest of the day's solar energy because you have nowhere to store it. If you added one at least if not two more batteries I think you would be in a lot better shape to ride out those cloudy days. The other thing I think you need to do is unplug that electric dryer that someone keeps using on you! I have the ultra with 3 batteries and it's running my house like a champ off grid with 2800 watts of panels (max reported on the display has so far been 2824 watts) Great video! Excellent piece of equipment 😊
Do you run your central ac? Also do you still have an electric bill or does the DPU and batteries cover everything? How long does it take to charge those 3 batteries from solar alone? Thanks!
Good idea if it works. I have two APC UPS 's which will not work on the 4,000 watt inverter I am using. It seems to be a ground issue I haven't had time to check out.
As a young woman jumping into prep for "grid down living" and after studying last year's montly usage- 800kwh average! Your video has been the best to tie all my knowledge together. That website is amazing and so intuative. Thank you. Here's to blowing 12k to run the house (especially the well and fridge) when everyone else goes dark. Remember those chickens and garden, everyone!
For 800 kWh average per month, the Silver kit (poweredportablesolar.com/product/ecoflow-delta-pro-ultra-kits/) is what you need since it's rated to an average use of 750 kWh per month. But you can start with the Bronze kit which is rated to 500 kWh per month, and then add the batteries later. The only thing I recommend is adding 4 more solar panels to the Bronze kit to save you a lot on shipping later on (poweredportablesolar.com/product/400w-solar-panel/) as well as an extra solar cable: poweredportablesolar.com/product/100ft-pv-connector-cable/. If you do that, then you'll save a lot on shipping later on, and the only thing you'll need in the future to get to the Silver kit level is two more Delta Pro Ultra batteries: poweredportablesolar.com/product/delta-pro-ultra-expansion-battery/
@@minutemanprep Does self installation (on ground not roof) disqualify one from the tax rebate and/or offset from monthly PG&E bill? Initially, we wanted to use this if SHTF, but now family is discussing offset of the monthly bills, too. Thanks.
@@sheaholloway9537 Ground mounting or self installation does not disqualify you from the tax credit. But to get your bill reduced you should install the panels on a permanent mount so they can make the most amount of energy possible. I am happy to help you get a mount and you can DIY the install or I can give you a quote on us doing the installation for you. info@poweredportablesolar.com
One issue is if you get high winds solar panels up on stands like that can go flying through the air hitting someone or ending up on your neighbors house. I suppose if you live on rural acreage not as much an issue. If you bolt them down to concrete now your required to permit the system, but there is other ways I have found simply buy those carboard tubes pour concrete in. I put some angle iron in those pour the concrete in then have something to can bolt your racking system down. They also make plastic ground mounting systems that you fill with gravel keep them on the ground. Just a couple of tips for off grid DIY system.
Awesome! I hope that when you are ready to purchase you'll give us a chance to fulfill your order and earn your support by ordering at PoweredPortableSolar.com/shop/
Great content Ben! I really love how you make real world options a reality with your testing and solutions. I just finished my RV Solar Setup and really enjoyed the project. I broke it up into phases and completed the final phase 4 yesterday just before a storm hit us in Northern Utah. My next goal is to get our electrician to put in interlock and plug in as you suggested to our Ray Cabin Home. I have a powerful 7500 watt gas generator until I get me the solar capable generator as you have tested. I’ve been doing the DIY config so will cost it to see if it fits my budget. Currently spending $300 a month on Rocky Mountain Power. There has to be a better way. You do a fantastic job! Thank you
Regarding the light flickering (more like a slow wave than flickering), I have the same issue with 2 DPUs connected to SHP2. After much testing, one of the DPU is the source of the flickering. The other one keeps all LED including Edison style, running as normal. With only one DPU I would not know, but clearly all DPUs are not equal. The DPU that makes the light flicker also discharge faster than its peer.
Thick winter cloud cover is a huge reason to overpanel. I don’t mean 10%, I mean like 400%. Solar panels are cheap and if you’re going to rely on them completely, there’s no excuse not to have more solar than the MPPT can use on sunny days. On winter cloud cover days I’m seeing less than 1/20th power output, even with the panels cleaned off completely. I have a Delta 2 Max (two 500W inputs) and I have about 1800W of panels on each input. BTW, no issues with the solar inputs waking up in the morning on my D2M.
or generator to supplement panels. in rural areas that just seems a no brainer solution that cures the snow days and reduce system outage time dramatically.
@@ApexImportExport absolutely! A generator is key for off-grid. I like using propane for backup applications as it stores indefinitely without going bad.
I really like off grid living . Watched quite a few videos on these type units . Although i do not understand the Delta Pro Ultra . It’s literally the most expensive of all time , of the ways to go off grid . Will check more of Preps videos . Possibly being sponsored by the company to use these .
Great video! One minor additional thing you might want to cover, perhaps in another video. What happens if you watch the battery charge level and the PV power generation to modify your electricty usage as needed? Being completely off grid is very admirable. I think most people fall into two other categories: Those that are finding increaing electriciy prices a burden and would like to know how to cut their bills, and those that want to be able to get thru occassional blackouts without loosing their perishable foods, internet, etc. In these cases, a single battery might suffice. Drying clothes on a close line, for example, is the ultimate power saver. I use a Delta 2 to keep my router and ISP connection powered all the time as required by the smart panel. The smart panel has given us lots of usage information we never had. As Matt of the Undecided TH-cam channel said, the smart panel "was the missing piece" of his solar + battery system. You can prioritize circuits, and shut down those that are non-essential (coming back to the previous paragraph.) On a series of cloudy days, one might want to turn off the laundry room circuit, for example.
I recently upgraded from the Delta Pro to the a delta pro ultra. For the issue with the WiFi I purchased a continuous power source used to keep computers going during blackout. The WiFi (Starlink) is connected to the battery and the battery is connected to the delta pro. That way when the AC for the delta pro ultra is turned off the wi fi continues. You can do the firmware update or turn on the smart generator if the snow and clouds prevent solar charging.
My plan for my Ecoflo ultra is to prepare for power outages/grid down. The 12000 watt dual battery seems to hit the sweet spot. It is enough to power my house under reduced usage for extended power outages. Coupled with my two smaller tri-fuel generators I can charge the system with one generator Running 4 hours to last for a day. Next year my plan is to install enough solar for at least a full day and only use the grid or generator to backfill for cloudy days. The idea is to use the system to help pay or itself under normal conditions through reduced electric bills and to be part of an off grid system if needed.
Hi man, i love your videos, i really like your reviews because are practical and honest. I don't know if you already did something like this but id love to see a video about starting to be prep or being prep wiht low budget, so people like me who are starting this kind of path have a guidance! Have a good day!
Nice video. Currently have gas generator with house input but looking to use the ultra as a ups. I'm also hybrid (natural gas / electric) so this definitely helps hedge bets on the occasional outages.
First love the video and information on the Delta Pro. I would suggest one or two wind generators so at night and on cloudy days you will have something to help with charging your system. Just a thought.
At a certain point, I would just unplug the electric dryer......if you can't listen, I will take the option away from you. But great demo! I was curious how or if it would handle real world tests......many demo videos I've seen so far only test them for a couple days, or only during sunny weather. Though I love how you can expand the Delta Pro Ultra to a ridiculous 90kw/h and triple that solar, at which point, good luck running out of power.
the trick I use, I that I got myself a power plan for EV's. So between 1am and 7am I pay 0.03 cents per kW. So I charge my batteries at night using dirt cheap power. That way my electricity bill is never more than $10 dollars for electricity that I used. So even on cloudy days, I don't have to worry. I haven't done this yet myself, but there is a way to use homeassistant and get it to look at the weather forcast and if the next day it's going to be cloudy, it will charge itself to 100% during those cheap rate times. I live in the south of Spain with 300 days of sunshine a year, so I rarely have to worry about cloudy days though ;)
In order to do your update just buy a simple Battery Backup UPS which are pretty cheap. You can use the UPS to power just the WiFi which should provide you with enough juice to get the job done and stay under budget. I hope this information helps.
Are you planning on running the cabin 24/7 on this? and how many panels are at the cabin? I have a need to keep 1 refrigerator/freezer, 2 mini splits, and a vent fan running. just wondering if this is a legitimate solution, or should i run power to that building for reliability?
Yes I have used it to run my cabin 24/7. It works very well. For a fridge, mini splits, fan and basics I would recommend the silver kit: poweredportablesolar.com/product/ecoflow-delta-pro-ultra-kits/. Or if you just want to get the unit, you can find it here with discounts: us.ecoflow.com/products/delta-pro-ultra?aff=368
What a great video, one doubt my friend, why did you change from L14-30 to SS2-50P? is it because having the option to a gas generator? thank you very much!
Great video! May consider this model myself, if I ever get an off-grid cabin. Regarding needing Wi-Fi to update, have you tried using your phone as a hotspot?
Great video and very informative. I am not as wealthy as you are, but I plan on getting a system even if it will be a piece at a time. Thanks again for sharing. I was looking at the pro until I saw your video about the new Ultra I did not know existed. Tell your wife to stop using the electric dryer or remove it if she doesn’t. Simple.
How much did it cost for your whole setup compaired to your monthly power bill. Seems it would take a very long time to "break even" Although in outage or emergency off grid sounds smart
I'm a 57 y.o. and live in Tampa. Homeowner for over 20 years. I've NEVER concerned myself with my ACTUAL home electrical usage but know my bill is about average. During the power outage with Hurricane Milton a couple of weeks ago, I purchased a gas generator and started to educate myself on electrical usage. What an eye opener! After checking my electrical bill online I was shocked to see that not only was my average daily usage 100 KWH with low days in the 60s, my highest days hit 195 KWH! So while a maxed out 90 KWH EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra would suffice for backup for essential appliances for a few days, to go off grid, I would need to have at least TWO maxed out systems! Is it possible to run two maxed out smart panels in one home?
That's A LOT of power. It's not recommended by EcoFlow to have to Smart Home Panel 2s but I've seen it done. Although, there is a more integrated and more affordable option using hybrid inverters instead. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com to find out more if you'd like.
I FINALLY GOT one of these! One thing that I'm confused about, that no one seems to talk about. What is the grounding screw used for? The manual says it should be used when you use low or high PV. And that it needs to be done to code? I have no inside ground in my garage, does that mean I can't run solar from outside the house to inside with this thing?
How many and what type solar panels do you recommend to maximize PV power to our Delta Pro ultra with one expansion battery? Should we link them half in sequence and half in parallel? We have a transfer switch to run critical items (estimated 7.7kwh).
There are many power saving initiatives you can incorporate to save power IE: fridge and freezer timers. Also, turn the breaker off for the electric dryer. Great video though. I appreciate the real world application for this DPU. This is the unit we're considering.
Thanks! Great video. I have a question. I see you are using a 60 amp breaker in your load center, as this is a 30amp output, shouldn't it be a 30 amp breaker? I am trying to decide between a 30amp and 60 amp transfer switch.
Great question. I did an SS2-50P generator inlet because I knew I'd eventually want two Delta Pro Ultras or other large generators to plug into my house. I'm not worried that only one DPU outputs 30a because if it overloads it has its own built in shut down routine. So I did a 50a input but my electrician installed a 60a breaker. So that's what I use.
Thanks so much for responding. It seems that there are a number of people, that are in the know are doing that, which makes sense. When I contacted echflow, the technician said I couldn't, however my electrician also confirmed what you said.
Thank you so I see you use 2 batteries on the Ultra which seem to run your entire house. Have you ever used the grid to charge up the system. Down the road I’m thinking of getting the pro 3 with the 240 outlet and just 2 solar panels. Mostly for emergency power and also once in a while turn off grid to run my AC units. This would be a summer home we have.
Regarding the WiFi-firmware issue, if you had service, you could create a hotspot (same network name and password) and then update the firmware over the hotspot... just a suggestion.
I wonder how much solar and batteries would be required to go full electric, ditching all the gas appliances. And if you go all electric with a gas generator as backup if the battery goes down (I know that you can do that with the EcoFlow Smart Panel or something with a similar name that gets sold with the Delta Pro Ultra), in that case how much of an efficiency impact would be compared to running those same appliance directly off gas? (I know that for example gas generators are quite inefficent, but on the other hand induction stovetops are much much more efficient that gas ranges) Ps: Just use a second phone as an hotspot to give internet access to the Ecoflow for the updates, alternatively there's adapters for USB-C power banks that go from usb-c to 9/12/20V barrels that you can most likely use to power the wifi long enough for the update without attaching the Ecoflow to a different unit.
What's the total cost of everything, including labor? I'm trying to not be a critic. What if I had a Delta 2 Ultra and my 4KW gas generator (which I figuratively stole for $200)? Could I survive an extended outage with my power usage (which is higher than yours)? As part of me trying to not be a critic, I purchased my first battery power station. It arrives Tuesday.
Victron three phase…that’s who I’d go with…I am a former emergency nurse practitioner and trauma first assist…I was badly injured and I can’t stand or hold surgical instruments to assist in procedures anymore…Im now a neuropsychiatric nurse practitioner instead. I’m a HAM with an Extra Class license and have learned electrical theory because of it. I do definitely consider myself a disaster prepper … I have a manual defib and ACLS medication, my old surgical kit, and my stuture kit. I would probably end up being “doc” in a serious shit hits the fan since I practiced emergency medicine for so long before I was hurt. I also have a general medicine box for my first aide kit, though most of those are IV form. You do a good job explaining the strength and weakness of this system…
This is the only issue I have in my preps , how do I keep a 4,000 square foot house running in a grid down . Old farm in the burbs that sold off most of the land and now surrounding by houses. Just want something to run a few fridges, lights , fans , heaters , local city won’t allow panels in the yard , and 60,grand for roof panels is ridiculous.
I think it's a really cool system. For a hardwired system I probably wouldn't go with it but it's absolutely a good option and seems to be working well for people. I may be lucky enough to get my hands on one to try out and review.
How much of a concern is the fire hazard with power banks in or near the house? Living in an area with cold winters means I can't leave them in an unheated building or shed, so they'd be in the house.
I have 2 jackery 2000 plus with the 5 back up batteries each total of 10 batteries. Run together with there 110/240v connector.. I use the dryer hook up to back feed. With the main off. 24kw hrs
Have to run these in conjunction with propane generac generator. Let that do the heavy lifting. Pool heater fridge stove oven dryer. Let eco flows run everything elese
I think a combination of solar and wind is the way to go for total off grid... just my research before the journey... hopefully I can make a video series about it as well ...
My only note is be careful charging that in sub zero temperatures. The delta pro uses LFP battery cells which can easily be damaged if you charge them at 32 degrees or below which it certainly looks like you have those temperatures there. I’d suggest contacting eco flow and ask them how to best go about charging it in those temperatures
I always have my Wi-Fi on, and my off grid system connected to a USP. It’s just a lead acid battery that lasts for about 20 minutes, hopefully long enough to do the software update.
Great video sir. I’m about to buy my first ecoflow system . I’m getting the ecoflow bundle of the ultra, smart panel and 400w solar panel. My question that i can’t seem to find anywhere is do i need two ultra batteries if i want to run a 5-ton ac unit for a couple of hours during peak time? Also, i was thinking of getting 3 - 400w panels to charge the unit during the day. Is that enough to charge to 100 so i have the power at night? Im in Arizona so we get sun 99% of the time. Thank you for your input.
It's the Bronze kit from PoweredPortableSolar.com plus four more panels. So a little less then $12,000. No maintenance. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com for extra help.
@@minutemanprep Bro, this is the fastest response I've ever gotten from a TH-cam comment. And you answered the question perfectly. I very much appreciate that lol. Currently, my breaker planel is all messed up. I'm hiring an electrician to fix it and expand it for more breakers. I was hoping to do a portable backup power system of some kind that recharges with solar, with an interlock transfer switch. I wanted to do a standby system, but the generac quote I got for a 24k watt system was $22k... no bueno. So that's when I started exploring systems like yours. VERY impressive btw. I have a million questions, I'll start by checking out your website first, I did check my monthly grid bill, my highest was 1762kWh. I'd love to go off grid with the option to switch back on grid like you too. I'm just starting this journey and have a ton to learn.
No problem! I'm happy to help. It's easy to start with a basic system and then grow it over time to cover everything. Over 1,700 kWh is petty high but it's definitely possible. I think it'll be good to have the electrical panel reorganized.
The Force might be cheaper but expandability is minimal. Also the ease of use on the delta is why it cost a little more. I like the cheaper products but I’m no electrician and my electrician might only charge me $500 to install this compared to $2000 to install something else.
@@jimmy4518 No. I use two 2 inch "anvil" brand clamps from Home Depot to hold the panel to the frame. We have a lot of high wind here in Idaho and have not had issues with the wind pulling them off. My previous ground mount had that issue and this one has worked great.
Does the EMP protector protect everything attached to it or do you need back ups of parts or even extra evenflow generators that you keep in a faraday cage or room?
Hi Ben. Have there been any updates on the ultra to enable auto switch on after batteries have been drained? I agree with you that this is a super important feature.
I am curious, what size house do you have and are all appliances (heating and water heater included) electric? I saw your energy use of 1200 kWh for January 2024 and I am stunned. I took 3384 kWh for the same month. Either I have a defective appliance or you are running heating and water heater on gas.
I have a question: At 6:33 You mentioned about your LED lights flickering. I've noticed this as well to include the bulb in my refrigerator. Is that concerning when running your AC unit, refrigerator or sensitive electronic equipment long term?
I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you for all your work….. Do you think a generator outlet is of use long term with development of newer tech? For example, when a power bank of solid state batteries arrives for solar purposes. Thanks for any help from you and anyone in your community who might be able to answer this
I noticed you mentioned setting up “Automations”. I thought automations weren’t allowed on SHP2 and Delta Pro Ultra. Were you able to setup any automations??
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
I'd love to earn your support and supply you with your system and ideally save you some extra money on the system. If the air handler is on another breaker it would be best to have the electrician who installs your SHP2 add a breaker for the air handler specifically so you don't have to put the 60a breaker inside of the SHP2.
You sure are making it hard to choose between DeltaProUltra and Hysolis Apollo 5 k ?? I’m leaning toward the Hysolis…… anyone have any comments of opinions ? Ben another great video 🎉
My electric bill is average $200 a month on 1700sqft house with gas stove...about $2400-$2500 a year. I lived in my house for over 3 years now, never had a power outage. I am thinking about buying this alternative system, but it gonna cost me around $15,000 ( with solar). This look like a lot of work for installation n maintenance.
Think of it this way. How much have you spent in insurance for your vehicles and home over the last 10 years? With that number in mind how much is it worth to be able to stay in your house when the power is down.
hmmm you can buy battery cells now with the same capacity (6kwh) for around 480$ and then size your inverter for your needs better. 1/6th the cost lol.
Nice to see this test and you seem to confirm some of my concerns. My chief concern is that solar input limit is too low and don't allow you to compensate enough for seasons of poor weather and limited window of charging. For my house, I need the diamond kit, but I am concerned that I won't be able to recharge the batteries enough to make it more than a few days, especially during winter and small windows of high solar production . I have an all electric house. Am I missing something?
For an all electric house, you defintely need a bare minimum of two DPUs and max out the solar panels and batteries. The Diamond Kit sounds like it would be the best fit. If you'd like, I am happy to look at your location to see what would be the best and most affordable setup for you. You can email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com.
What happens to the system (solar panels) when the battery is fully charged or in other words if you have little or no power consumption (for example on vacation). Do you have to cover the panels?
I notice that your main breaker is 200 AMP and your breaker for the solar generator is 60 AMP. My question is how can you run your house with a 60 AMP input breaker?
Great question. That's because my house doesn't use anywhere close to 200a. The vast majority of houses don't run close to 200a. If your house is all electric, and you run your dryer, A/C, well pump, laundry machine, dishwasher, water heater, and other appliances all at the same time, you'd be using around 75a. That is considered an extremely high load all at once. Electrical panels have to be 200a rated according to national electric code. But that has nothing to do with how much people truly run.
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I decided to take my house 100% off grid using the Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow. I have 14 400w solar panels for 5,600w of solar input to recharge the system. How long will it last?
Could you explain more about the TX & ca Hassle free bundle kit. I was reading in your description about it but didn't see a whole lot on their website. Thanks M.M.!
@@unaffiliated_x9279did you find out more info about the Texas hassle free thing ? I live in Texas
Can you get the ultra and then use other batteries? Like random lip04 battery banks like in racks or eg4 wall units etc?
Sadly no @@Yaveren
I think you are going to make a lot of believers with that video. Those are the real world comprehensive usages people want to know about. Nice work.
Ben this is one of your absolute best videos. What I really like about it is that its simply a real life no frills experience and well documented. Thanks very much for posting. I am off to watch your video of the apollo vs the Delta Pro Ultra. Cheers.
I think the biggest issue that you have after watching the video is that you don't have enough battery storage. when you do get those sunny days your system charges very quickly to full and then basically you waste the rest of the day's solar energy because you have nowhere to store it. If you added one at least if not two more batteries I think you would be in a lot better shape to ride out those cloudy days. The other thing I think you need to do is unplug that electric dryer that someone keeps using on you! I have the ultra with 3 batteries and it's running my house like a champ off grid with 2800 watts of panels (max reported on the display has so far been 2824 watts) Great video! Excellent piece of equipment 😊
how much was your monthly kWh consumption per month?
600 minimum up to 1500 or more in summer
Do you run your central ac? Also do you still have an electric bill or does the DPU and batteries cover everything? How long does it take to charge those 3 batteries from solar alone? Thanks!
good to know. how many panels do you have and what kind 400W?
You need APC battery back up on your router and network this way when you’re ready to do a update and the power is out you can still do the update
Good idea if it works. I have two APC UPS 's which will not work on the 4,000 watt inverter I am using. It seems to be a ground issue I haven't had time to check out.
My little 300 pack ran my ont and mesh eero for 8 hours for WiFi during an outage during a hurricane
Really good video. Eco flow has really stepped up their game with these units.
As a young woman jumping into prep for "grid down living" and after studying last year's montly usage- 800kwh average! Your video has been the best to tie all my knowledge together. That website is amazing and so intuative. Thank you. Here's to blowing 12k to run the house (especially the well and fridge) when everyone else goes dark. Remember those chickens and garden, everyone!
For 800 kWh average per month, the Silver kit (poweredportablesolar.com/product/ecoflow-delta-pro-ultra-kits/) is what you need since it's rated to an average use of 750 kWh per month. But you can start with the Bronze kit which is rated to 500 kWh per month, and then add the batteries later. The only thing I recommend is adding 4 more solar panels to the Bronze kit to save you a lot on shipping later on (poweredportablesolar.com/product/400w-solar-panel/) as well as an extra solar cable: poweredportablesolar.com/product/100ft-pv-connector-cable/. If you do that, then you'll save a lot on shipping later on, and the only thing you'll need in the future to get to the Silver kit level is two more Delta Pro Ultra batteries: poweredportablesolar.com/product/delta-pro-ultra-expansion-battery/
@@minutemanprep Thanks so much for the added info.
@@minutemanprep Does self installation (on ground not roof) disqualify one from the tax rebate and/or offset from monthly PG&E bill? Initially, we wanted to use this if SHTF, but now family is discussing offset of the monthly bills, too. Thanks.
@@sheaholloway9537 Ground mounting or self installation does not disqualify you from the tax credit. But to get your bill reduced you should install the panels on a permanent mount so they can make the most amount of energy possible. I am happy to help you get a mount and you can DIY the install or I can give you a quote on us doing the installation for you. info@poweredportablesolar.com
@@minutemanprep Thank you.
One issue is if you get high winds solar panels up on stands like that can go flying through the air hitting someone or ending up on your neighbors house. I suppose if you live on rural acreage not as much an issue. If you bolt them down to concrete now your required to permit the system, but there is other ways I have found simply buy those carboard tubes pour concrete in. I put some angle iron in those pour the concrete in then have something to can bolt your racking system down. They also make plastic ground mounting systems that you fill with gravel keep them on the ground. Just a couple of tips for off grid DIY system.
You convinced me I don't need the Smart Home Panel 2. What you just demonstrated here is exactly what I want to do.
Awesome! I hope that when you are ready to purchase you'll give us a chance to fulfill your order and earn your support by ordering at PoweredPortableSolar.com/shop/
Great content Ben! I really love how you make real world options a reality with your testing and solutions.
I just finished my RV Solar Setup and really enjoyed the project. I broke it up into phases and completed the final phase 4 yesterday just before a storm hit us in Northern Utah.
My next goal is to get our electrician to put in interlock and plug in as you suggested to our Ray Cabin Home. I have a powerful 7500 watt gas generator until I get me the solar capable generator as you have tested. I’ve been doing the DIY config so will cost it to see if it fits my budget. Currently spending $300 a month on Rocky Mountain Power. There has to be a better way.
You do a fantastic job! Thank you
Regarding the light flickering (more like a slow wave than flickering), I have the same issue with 2 DPUs connected to SHP2. After much testing, one of the DPU is the source of the flickering. The other one keeps all LED including Edison style, running as normal. With only one DPU I would not know, but clearly all DPUs are not equal. The DPU that makes the light flicker also discharge faster than its peer.
Thick winter cloud cover is a huge reason to overpanel. I don’t mean 10%, I mean like 400%. Solar panels are cheap and if you’re going to rely on them completely, there’s no excuse not to have more solar than the MPPT can use on sunny days.
On winter cloud cover days I’m seeing less than 1/20th power output, even with the panels cleaned off completely. I have a Delta 2 Max (two 500W inputs) and I have about 1800W of panels on each input.
BTW, no issues with the solar inputs waking up in the morning on my D2M.
or generator to supplement panels. in rural areas that just seems a no brainer solution that cures the snow days and reduce system outage time dramatically.
@@ApexImportExport absolutely! A generator is key for off-grid. I like using propane for backup applications as it stores indefinitely without going bad.
4:25: 120 v heat pump dryer options do a great job while reducing energy load.
I really like off grid living . Watched quite a few videos on these type units . Although i do not understand the Delta Pro Ultra . It’s literally the most expensive of all time , of the ways to go off grid . Will check more of Preps videos . Possibly being sponsored by the company to use these .
Great video!
One minor additional thing you might want to cover, perhaps in another video. What happens if you watch the battery charge level and the PV power generation to modify your electricty usage as needed? Being completely off grid is very admirable. I think most people fall into two other categories: Those that are finding increaing electriciy prices a burden and would like to know how to cut their bills, and those that want to be able to get thru occassional blackouts without loosing their perishable foods, internet, etc. In these cases, a single battery might suffice. Drying clothes on a close line, for example, is the ultimate power saver.
I use a Delta 2 to keep my router and ISP connection powered all the time as required by the smart panel. The smart panel has given us lots of usage information we never had. As Matt of the Undecided TH-cam channel said, the smart panel "was the missing piece" of his solar + battery system. You can prioritize circuits, and shut down those that are non-essential (coming back to the previous paragraph.) On a series of cloudy days, one might want to turn off the laundry room circuit, for example.
good tip on laundry as that can be suspended until better weather in worst case scenario with low sunlight hour days!
So you converted the 50A plug that goes to your panel to a 30A plug on the ecoflow…
Cant you just use 30A to the panel?
Have you looked into the anker solix F3800?
I recently upgraded from the Delta Pro to the a delta pro ultra. For the issue with the WiFi I purchased a continuous power source used to keep computers going during blackout. The WiFi (Starlink) is connected to the battery and the battery is connected to the delta pro. That way when the AC for the delta pro ultra is turned off the wi fi continues. You can do the firmware update or turn on the smart generator if the snow and clouds prevent solar charging.
Great idea. Recommendation for the continuous power flow?
My plan for my Ecoflo ultra is to prepare for power outages/grid down. The 12000 watt dual battery seems to hit the sweet spot. It is enough to power my house under reduced usage for extended power outages. Coupled with my two smaller tri-fuel generators I
can charge the system with one generator Running 4 hours to last for a day. Next year my plan is to install enough solar for at least a full day and only use the grid or generator to backfill for cloudy days. The idea is to use the system to help pay or itself under normal conditions through reduced electric bills and to be part of an off grid system if needed.
Hi man, i love your videos, i really like your reviews because are practical and honest. I don't know if you already did something like this but id love to see a video about starting to be prep or being prep wiht low budget, so people like me who are starting this kind of path have a guidance! Have a good day!
Nice video. Currently have gas generator with house input but looking to use the ultra as a ups. I'm also hybrid (natural gas / electric) so this definitely helps hedge bets on the occasional outages.
First love the video and information on the Delta Pro. I would suggest one or two wind generators so at night and on cloudy days you will have something to help with charging your system. Just a thought.
Great stuff. I'm working towards a possible off grid home one day and a friend told me EcoFlow is the way to go
At a certain point, I would just unplug the electric dryer......if you can't listen, I will take the option away from you. But great demo! I was curious how or if it would handle real world tests......many demo videos I've seen so far only test them for a couple days, or only during sunny weather. Though I love how you can expand the Delta Pro Ultra to a ridiculous 90kw/h and triple that solar, at which point, good luck running out of power.
Nicely done Ben. Comparison to twin Apollo set up I would be great.
the trick I use, I that I got myself a power plan for EV's. So between 1am and 7am I pay 0.03 cents per kW. So I charge my batteries at night using dirt cheap power. That way my electricity bill is never more than $10 dollars for electricity that I used. So even on cloudy days, I don't have to worry. I haven't done this yet myself, but there is a way to use homeassistant and get it to look at the weather forcast and if the next day it's going to be cloudy, it will charge itself to 100% during those cheap rate times.
I live in the south of Spain with 300 days of sunshine a year, so I rarely have to worry about cloudy days though ;)
In order to do your update just buy a simple Battery Backup UPS which are pretty cheap. You can use the UPS to power just the WiFi which should provide you with enough juice to get the job done and stay under budget. I hope this information helps.
Are you planning on running the cabin 24/7 on this? and how many panels are at the cabin? I have a need to keep 1 refrigerator/freezer, 2 mini splits, and a vent fan running. just wondering if this is a legitimate solution, or should i run power to that building for reliability?
Yes I have used it to run my cabin 24/7. It works very well. For a fridge, mini splits, fan and basics I would recommend the silver kit: poweredportablesolar.com/product/ecoflow-delta-pro-ultra-kits/. Or if you just want to get the unit, you can find it here with discounts: us.ecoflow.com/products/delta-pro-ultra?aff=368
@@minutemanprep thanks so much for the info new sub!
I use a GE tc10323r transfer switch
What a great video, one doubt my friend, why did you change from L14-30 to SS2-50P? is it because having the option to a gas generator?
thank you very much!
Great video! May consider this model myself, if I ever get an off-grid cabin. Regarding needing Wi-Fi to update, have you tried using your phone as a hotspot?
Great video and very informative. I am not as wealthy as you are, but I plan on getting a system even if it will be a piece at a time. Thanks again for sharing.
I was looking at the pro until I saw your video about the new Ultra I did not know existed. Tell your wife to stop using the electric dryer or remove it if she doesn’t. Simple.
How much did it cost for your whole setup compaired to your monthly power bill. Seems it would take a very long time to "break even" Although in outage or emergency off grid sounds smart
Very nice, I'd only use the grid on days that it almost discharges completely.
I have an inquiry
Can the solar system provide power to the house to offset utility demand and charge the battery?
Thanks
What about central AC?
Love this video, but to make your not so good ending great; You can use your phone as a hotspot for wifi to continue your update!
I'm a 57 y.o. and live in Tampa. Homeowner for over 20 years. I've NEVER concerned myself with my ACTUAL home electrical usage but know my bill is about average. During the power outage with Hurricane Milton a couple of weeks ago, I purchased a gas generator and started to educate myself on electrical usage. What an eye opener! After checking my electrical bill online I was shocked to see that not only was my average daily usage 100 KWH with low days in the 60s, my highest days hit 195 KWH! So while a maxed out 90 KWH EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra would suffice for backup for essential appliances for a few days, to go off grid, I would need to have at least TWO maxed out systems! Is it possible to run two maxed out smart panels in one home?
That's A LOT of power. It's not recommended by EcoFlow to have to Smart Home Panel 2s but I've seen it done. Although, there is a more integrated and more affordable option using hybrid inverters instead. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com to find out more if you'd like.
I FINALLY GOT one of these! One thing that I'm confused about, that no one seems to talk about. What is the grounding screw used for? The manual says it should be used when you use low or high PV. And that it needs to be done to code? I have no inside ground in my garage, does that mean I can't run solar from outside the house to inside with this thing?
What if hubby or I have no idea how to get all of that set up?
How many and what type solar panels do you recommend to maximize PV power to our Delta Pro ultra with one expansion battery? Should we link them half in sequence and half in parallel? We have a transfer switch to run critical items (estimated 7.7kwh).
Would be curious to see how a central Air Conditioner would run on this system when its 90 degrees outside!
There are many power saving initiatives you can incorporate to save power IE: fridge and freezer timers. Also, turn the breaker off for the electric dryer. Great video though. I appreciate the real world application for this DPU. This is the unit we're considering.
Thanks for watching. If you're still looking for the system you can find them here: poweredportablesolar.com/shop/
Thanks! Great video. I have a question. I see you are using a 60 amp breaker in your load center, as this is a 30amp output, shouldn't it be a 30 amp breaker? I am trying to decide between a 30amp and 60 amp transfer switch.
Great question. I did an SS2-50P generator inlet because I knew I'd eventually want two Delta Pro Ultras or other large generators to plug into my house. I'm not worried that only one DPU outputs 30a because if it overloads it has its own built in shut down routine. So I did a 50a input but my electrician installed a 60a breaker. So that's what I use.
Thanks so much for responding. It seems that there are a number of people, that are in the know are doing that, which makes sense. When I contacted echflow, the technician said I couldn't, however my electrician also confirmed what you said.
@minutemanprep Just got off with ecoflow. The service rep was very helpful, and he confirmed it good 👍
Thank you for sharing your journey. My journey has taught me to consume less, gas-electricity-money.
WOULD LOVE A VIDEO ON HOW TO EXPAND THE DPU WITH THE DELTA PRO UNITS TO INCREASE BATTERY STORAGE FOR THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE THE DELTA PRO UNITS.
what's the recipe for the red chicken?
I wonder how your test would differ in each season.
That last thing you mentioned is why I keep my wifi access point, gateway, and router on a UPS so that stuff can do firmware updates like this.
Correct, that's what I am gonig to do with my WiFi is put a small unit like an EcoFlow River 2 pro on it.
if you have cell reception, You could have used your phone's hotspot to update your firmware.
Thank you so I see you use 2 batteries on the Ultra which seem to run your entire house.
Have you ever used the grid to charge up the system. Down the road I’m thinking of getting the pro 3 with the 240 outlet and just 2 solar panels. Mostly for emergency power and also once in a while turn off grid to run my AC units. This would be a summer home we have.
What size wire are you using for your panels if your panels are 400 fett away?
Eco flow delta pro ultra extra 4 battery please show more test it out on TH-cam videos
Another great video Ben!!
Regarding the WiFi-firmware issue, if you had service, you could create a hotspot (same network name and password) and then update the firmware over the hotspot... just a suggestion.
the most important part of a house, will it power a 4 ton AC unit with a soft-start? if so for how long?
I wonder how much solar and batteries would be required to go full electric, ditching all the gas appliances.
And if you go all electric with a gas generator as backup if the battery goes down (I know that you can do that with the EcoFlow Smart Panel or something with a similar name that gets sold with the Delta Pro Ultra), in that case how much of an efficiency impact would be compared to running those same appliance directly off gas? (I know that for example gas generators are quite inefficent, but on the other hand induction stovetops are much much more efficient that gas ranges)
Ps: Just use a second phone as an hotspot to give internet access to the Ecoflow for the updates, alternatively there's adapters for USB-C power banks that go from usb-c to 9/12/20V barrels that you can most likely use to power the wifi long enough for the update without attaching the Ecoflow to a different unit.
What's the total cost of everything, including labor?
I'm trying to not be a critic. What if I had a Delta 2 Ultra and my 4KW gas generator (which I figuratively stole for $200)? Could I survive an extended outage with my power usage (which is higher than yours)?
As part of me trying to not be a critic, I purchased my first battery power station. It arrives Tuesday.
Our house has electric everything, so we'd have to conserve a ton (and probably add some more batteries). But I love this idea.
Victron three phase…that’s who I’d go with…I am a former emergency nurse practitioner and trauma first assist…I was badly injured and I can’t stand or hold surgical instruments to assist in procedures anymore…Im now a neuropsychiatric nurse practitioner instead. I’m a HAM with an Extra Class license and have learned electrical theory because of it. I do definitely consider myself a disaster prepper … I have a manual defib and ACLS medication, my old surgical kit, and my stuture kit. I would probably end up being “doc” in a serious shit hits the fan since I practiced emergency medicine for so long before I was hurt. I also have a general medicine box for my first aide kit, though most of those are IV form. You do a good job explaining the strength and weakness of this system…
Hey, thanks for your video, do you have one showing how you wired up this particular solar array?
This is the only issue I have in my preps , how do I keep a 4,000 square foot house running in a grid down . Old farm in the burbs that sold off most of the land and now surrounding by houses.
Just want something to run a few fridges, lights , fans , heaters , local city won’t allow panels in the yard , and 60,grand for roof panels is ridiculous.
Can you use a dual power generator to power up the batteries if your solar panels fail?
Yes but it needs to be an inverter generator because it the energy coming out of it needs to be clean enough for the DPU to accept it.
Great vid man! Are you planning on reviewing the new Titans? Boost and 240sp?
I would definitely add a small wind turbine, when cloudy it is usually windy, too....plus you might get power at night!!!
Thank you for the VOD.
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What are your thoughts on the Anker Solix X1?
I think it's a really cool system. For a hardwired system I probably wouldn't go with it but it's absolutely a good option and seems to be working well for people. I may be lucky enough to get my hands on one to try out and review.
How much of a concern is the fire hazard with power banks in or near the house? Living in an area with cold winters means I can't leave them in an unheated building or shed, so they'd be in the house.
Pls do a give a way of the power station if possible I could really benefit from this ecoflow device no matter the capacity
I have 2 jackery 2000 plus with the 5 back up batteries each total of 10 batteries. Run together with there 110/240v connector.. I use the dryer hook up to back feed. With the main off. 24kw hrs
Have to run these in conjunction with propane generac generator. Let that do the heavy lifting. Pool heater fridge stove oven dryer. Let eco flows run everything elese
I think a combination of solar and wind is the way to go for total off grid... just my research before the journey... hopefully I can make a video series about it as well ...
My only note is be careful charging that in sub zero temperatures. The delta pro uses LFP battery cells which can easily be damaged if you charge them at 32 degrees or below which it certainly looks like you have those temperatures there. I’d suggest contacting eco flow and ask them how to best go about charging it in those temperatures
Luckily for me, my garage doesn't get below 32F. And the Ultra batteries have built in heaters if it does get below 32F.
@@minutemanprep built in heaters??? Why wasn't this talked about? That's an awesome and genius feature!
@@trevorm7013 I forgot. Since it didn't apply to my situation I forgot to bring it up.
Great video !, when I’m ready to purchase Ben, I’ll buy the bronze kit off your website!, thank you sir ! Take care….
I see you charge at 100% recommended at 90%. Which is better?
why don't you run the panels every day?? It's free electricity? What am I missing??
I always have my Wi-Fi on, and my off grid system connected to a USP. It’s just a lead acid battery that lasts for about 20 minutes, hopefully long enough to do the software update.
Great video sir. I’m about to buy my first ecoflow system . I’m getting the ecoflow bundle of the ultra, smart panel and 400w solar panel. My question that i can’t seem to find anywhere is do i need two ultra batteries if i want to run a 5-ton ac unit for a couple of hours during peak time? Also, i was thinking of getting 3 - 400w panels to charge the unit during the day. Is that enough to charge to 100 so i have the power at night? Im in Arizona so we get sun 99% of the time. Thank you for your input.
How much did your entire setup cost? Are there any maintenance costs?
It's the Bronze kit from PoweredPortableSolar.com plus four more panels. So a little less then $12,000. No maintenance. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com for extra help.
@@minutemanprep Bro, this is the fastest response I've ever gotten from a TH-cam comment. And you answered the question perfectly. I very much appreciate that lol. Currently, my breaker planel is all messed up. I'm hiring an electrician to fix it and expand it for more breakers. I was hoping to do a portable backup power system of some kind that recharges with solar, with an interlock transfer switch. I wanted to do a standby system, but the generac quote I got for a 24k watt system was $22k... no bueno. So that's when I started exploring systems like yours. VERY impressive btw. I have a million questions, I'll start by checking out your website first, I did check my monthly grid bill, my highest was 1762kWh. I'd love to go off grid with the option to switch back on grid like you too. I'm just starting this journey and have a ton to learn.
No problem! I'm happy to help. It's easy to start with a basic system and then grow it over time to cover everything. Over 1,700 kWh is petty high but it's definitely possible. I think it'll be good to have the electrical panel reorganized.
Have you heard of the new Powerstation about to come out called FORCE 15k? It looks promising and might give the Ecoflow DPU a Run for it's money
The Force might be cheaper but expandability is minimal. Also the ease of use on the delta is why it cost a little more. I like the cheaper products but I’m no electrician and my electrician might only charge me $500 to install this compared to $2000 to install something else.
wheres the video on building the array shown @3:16?
I didn't do a full video, but I did a short about them here: th-cam.com/users/shorts6XmyxxfXZ7E?si=-wdOnFNQPml8mTtR
@@minutemanprep any issues with the wind grabbing them?
@@jimmy4518 No. I use two 2 inch "anvil" brand clamps from Home Depot to hold the panel to the frame. We have a lot of high wind here in Idaho and have not had issues with the wind pulling them off. My previous ground mount had that issue and this one has worked great.
What brand panels are those. I can’t seem to find panels that will max out the solar input and stay with in the parameters.
Does the EMP protector protect everything attached to it or do you need back ups of parts or even extra evenflow generators that you keep in a faraday cage or room?
Why do you guys have such a heavy clothes dryer ? I am from India and we use a 6kg dryer which takes only 1800 watts. I can run that on my Delta 2.
Hi Ben. Have there been any updates on the ultra to enable auto switch on after batteries have been drained? I agree with you that this is a super important feature.
I am curious, what size house do you have and are all appliances (heating and water heater included) electric? I saw your energy use of 1200 kWh for January 2024 and I am stunned. I took 3384 kWh for the same month. Either I have a defective appliance or you are running heating and water heater on gas.
I have a question: At 6:33 You mentioned about your LED lights flickering. I've noticed this as well to include the bulb in my refrigerator. Is that concerning when running your AC unit, refrigerator or sensitive electronic equipment long term?
I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you for all your work….. Do you think a generator outlet is of use long term with development of newer tech? For example, when a power bank of solid state batteries arrives for solar purposes. Thanks for any help from you and anyone in your community who might be able to answer this
Yes I think the generator inlet is important even with solid state batteries.
I noticed you mentioned setting up “Automations”. I thought automations weren’t allowed on SHP2 and Delta Pro Ultra. Were you able to setup any automations??
Awesome video. About to purchase the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra inverter, 5 batteries and the smart panel 2. I would like to have my home 3 ton ac unit (30 amp) to the smart panel. My concern is the fan on the air handler gets it power from the heating breaker (60 amp). I do not plan to ever power the heating system using batteries (we don't get that cold here often). But how do I power the blower so the ac works properly? I will not install the panel myself but would want some knowledge when getting quotes from licensed electricians. Thanks for any advice.
I'd love to earn your support and supply you with your system and ideally save you some extra money on the system. If the air handler is on another breaker it would be best to have the electrician who installs your SHP2 add a breaker for the air handler specifically so you don't have to put the 60a breaker inside of the SHP2.
You sure are making it hard to choose between DeltaProUltra and Hysolis Apollo 5 k ?? I’m leaning toward the Hysolis…… anyone have any comments of opinions ?
Ben another great video 🎉
Have you tried to add a fan generator to charge at night and during snowy/cloudy days?
How many times can this system cycle the battery before the battery is no longer viable.?
Awesome stuff. Can you run a 5 ton A/C?
My electric bill is average $200 a month on 1700sqft house with gas stove...about $2400-$2500 a year. I lived in my house for over 3 years now, never had a power outage. I am thinking about buying this alternative system, but it gonna cost me around $15,000 ( with solar). This look like a lot of work for installation n maintenance.
Think of it this way. How much have you spent in insurance for your vehicles and home over the last 10 years? With that number in mind how much is it worth to be able to stay in your house when the power is down.
hmmm you can buy battery cells now with the same capacity (6kwh) for around 480$ and then size your inverter for your needs better. 1/6th the cost lol.
Nice to see this test and you seem to confirm some of my concerns. My chief concern is that solar input limit is too low and don't allow you to compensate enough for seasons of poor weather and limited window of charging. For my house, I need the diamond kit, but I am concerned that I won't be able to recharge the batteries enough to make it more than a few days, especially during winter and small windows of high solar production . I have an all electric house. Am I missing something?
For an all electric house, you defintely need a bare minimum of two DPUs and max out the solar panels and batteries. The Diamond Kit sounds like it would be the best fit. If you'd like, I am happy to look at your location to see what would be the best and most affordable setup for you. You can email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com.
What happens to the system (solar panels) when the battery is fully charged or in other words if you have little or no power consumption (for example on vacation). Do you have to cover the panels?
Does running the unit under 20% kill the long term viability of the battery like many other lithium batteries?
I notice that your main breaker is 200 AMP and your breaker for the solar generator is 60 AMP.
My question is how can you run your house with a 60 AMP input breaker?
Great question. That's because my house doesn't use anywhere close to 200a. The vast majority of houses don't run close to 200a. If your house is all electric, and you run your dryer, A/C, well pump, laundry machine, dishwasher, water heater, and other appliances all at the same time, you'd be using around 75a. That is considered an extremely high load all at once. Electrical panels have to be 200a rated according to national electric code. But that has nothing to do with how much people truly run.