Beginner Guide to Go Off-Grid Using the Delta Pro Ultra
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I decided to take my house 100% off grid using the Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow. I have 14 400w solar panels for 5,600w of solar input to recharge the system. How long will it last?
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I decided to take my house 100% off grid using the Delta Pro Ultra from EcoFlow. I have 14 400w solar panels for 5,600w of solar input to recharge the system. How long will it last?
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I think you are going to make a lot of believers with that video. Those are the real world comprehensive usages people want to know about. Nice work.
I would definitely add a small wind turbine, when cloudy it is usually windy, too....plus you might get power at night!!!
Ben this is one of your absolute best videos. What I really like about it is that its simply a real life no frills experience and well documented. Thanks very much for posting. I am off to watch your video of the apollo vs the Delta Pro Ultra. Cheers.
Finally a video a like this, everyone uses that smart home panel and nobody ever showed PV production, thanks for sharing this information
You need APC battery back up on your router and network this way when you’re ready to do a update and the power is out you can still do the update
Really good video. Eco flow has really stepped up their game with these units.
Another great video Ben!!
Great content Ben! I really love how you make real world options a reality with your testing and solutions.
I just finished my RV Solar Setup and really enjoyed the project. I broke it up into phases and completed the final phase 4 yesterday just before a storm hit us in Northern Utah.
My next goal is to get our electrician to put in interlock and plug in as you suggested to our Ray Cabin Home. I have a powerful 7500 watt gas generator until I get me the solar capable generator as you have tested. I’ve been doing the DIY config so will cost it to see if it fits my budget. Currently spending $300 a month on Rocky Mountain Power. There has to be a better way.
You do a fantastic job! Thank you
Great demo. Thanks!
Nice video. Currently have gas generator with house input but looking to use the ultra as a ups. I'm also hybrid (natural gas / electric) so this definitely helps hedge bets on the occasional outages.
Thank you for the VOD.
Ghost Recon: Wildlands, still my favorite shooter. 👍👍
Nicely done Ben. Comparison to twin Apollo set up I would be great.
Hi man, i love your videos, i really like your reviews because are practical and honest. I don't know if you already did something like this but id love to see a video about starting to be prep or being prep wiht low budget, so people like me who are starting this kind of path have a guidance! Have a good day!
Awesome video thank you!!
Yes, your best video. Thanks.
Great video and very informative. I am not as wealthy as you are, but I plan on getting a system even if it will be a piece at a time. Thanks again for sharing.
I was looking at the pro until I saw your video about the new Ultra I did not know existed. Tell your wife to stop using the electric dryer or remove it if she doesn’t. Simple.
Great vid man! Are you planning on reviewing the new Titans? Boost and 240sp?
Great video! May consider this model myself, if I ever get an off-grid cabin. Regarding needing Wi-Fi to update, have you tried using your phone as a hotspot?
Thank you for sharing your journey. My journey has taught me to consume less, gas-electricity-money.
In order to do your update just buy a simple Battery Backup UPS which are pretty cheap. You can use the UPS to power just the WiFi which should provide you with enough juice to get the job done and stay under budget. I hope this information helps.
As a young woman jumping into prep for "grid down living" and after studying last year's montly usage- 800kwh average! Your video has been the best to tie all my knowledge together. That website is amazing and so intuative. Thank you. Here's to blowing 12k to run the house (especially the well and fridge) when everyone else goes dark. Remember those chickens and garden, everyone!
For 800 kWh average per month, the Silver kit (poweredportablesolar.com/product/ecoflow-delta-pro-ultra-kits/) is what you need since it's rated to an average use of 750 kWh per month. But you can start with the Bronze kit which is rated to 500 kWh per month, and then add the batteries later. The only thing I recommend is adding 4 more solar panels to the Bronze kit to save you a lot on shipping later on (poweredportablesolar.com/product/400w-solar-panel/) as well as an extra solar cable: poweredportablesolar.com/product/100ft-pv-connector-cable/. If you do that, then you'll save a lot on shipping later on, and the only thing you'll need in the future to get to the Silver kit level is two more Delta Pro Ultra batteries: poweredportablesolar.com/product/delta-pro-ultra-expansion-battery/
@@minutemanprep Thanks so much for the added info.
@@minutemanprep Does self installation (on ground not roof) disqualify one from the tax rebate and/or offset from monthly PG&E bill? Initially, we wanted to use this if SHTF, but now family is discussing offset of the monthly bills, too. Thanks.
@@sheaholloway9537 Ground mounting or self installation does not disqualify you from the tax credit. But to get your bill reduced you should install the panels on a permanent mount so they can make the most amount of energy possible. I am happy to help you get a mount and you can DIY the install or I can give you a quote on us doing the installation for you. info@poweredportablesolar.com
@@minutemanprep Thank you.
Hey, thanks for your video, do you have one showing how you wired up this particular solar array?
Regarding the light flickering (more like a slow wave than flickering), I have the same issue with 2 DPUs connected to SHP2. After much testing, one of the DPU is the source of the flickering. The other one keeps all LED including Edison style, running as normal. With only one DPU I would not know, but clearly all DPUs are not equal. The DPU that makes the light flicker also discharge faster than its peer.
I think the biggest issue that you have after watching the video is that you don't have enough battery storage. when you do get those sunny days your system charges very quickly to full and then basically you waste the rest of the day's solar energy because you have nowhere to store it. If you added one at least if not two more batteries I think you would be in a lot better shape to ride out those cloudy days. The other thing I think you need to do is unplug that electric dryer that someone keeps using on you! I have the ultra with 3 batteries and it's running my house like a champ off grid with 2800 watts of panels (max reported on the display has so far been 2824 watts) Great video! Excellent piece of equipment 😊
how much was your monthly kWh consumption per month?
600 minimum up to 1500 or more in summer
Great video! Just subscribed.
Very nice, I'd only use the grid on days that it almost discharges completely.
Thick winter cloud cover is a huge reason to overpanel. I don’t mean 10%, I mean like 400%. Solar panels are cheap and if you’re going to rely on them completely, there’s no excuse not to have more solar than the MPPT can use on sunny days.
On winter cloud cover days I’m seeing less than 1/20th power output, even with the panels cleaned off completely. I have a Delta 2 Max (two 500W inputs) and I have about 1800W of panels on each input.
BTW, no issues with the solar inputs waking up in the morning on my D2M.
I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you for all your work….. Do you think a generator outlet is of use long term with development of newer tech? For example, when a power bank of solid state batteries arrives for solar purposes. Thanks for any help from you and anyone in your community who might be able to answer this
Yes I think the generator inlet is important even with solid state batteries.
What do you think about the new titan 240sp? Will you be doing a review on it soon?
Hi Ben. Have there been any updates on the ultra to enable auto switch on after batteries have been drained? I agree with you that this is a super important feature.
Excellent
Apollo is my ask!
At a certain point, I would just unplug the electric dryer......if you can't listen, I will take the option away from you. But great demo! I was curious how or if it would handle real world tests......many demo videos I've seen so far only test them for a couple days, or only during sunny weather. Though I love how you can expand the Delta Pro Ultra to a ridiculous 90kw/h and triple that solar, at which point, good luck running out of power.
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That last thing you mentioned is why I keep my wifi access point, gateway, and router on a UPS so that stuff can do firmware updates like this.
Correct, that's what I am gonig to do with my WiFi is put a small unit like an EcoFlow River 2 pro on it.
Have you looked into the anker solix F3800?
I have 2 jackery 2000 plus with the 5 back up batteries each total of 10 batteries. Run together with there 110/240v connector.. I use the dryer hook up to back feed. With the main off. 24kw hrs
Hi Ben this is a nice overview. Ive got a 50ft solar cable with the XT60i at its end to fit into my Delta Pro's. They were defective, so now gone. I see on the Delta Pro Ultra, that plug wont fit. But I want to use that log cable for the solar panels Ill get soon. Is there an adapter available to get the long cable to plug into the DPU? Or do I have to buy other cables and butcher them up and rig my own fittings? Any advice would be appreciated.
Pls do a give a way of the power station if possible I could really benefit from this ecoflow device no matter the capacity
Nice! I'm preparing to do exactly the same thing. About how much kWh do you think you generally use per day? I use estimated 10kWh and wondering if I can make this work like you did.
@minutemanprep really good video, I learned a lot. Quick question, can you tell me why you did not get the Ecoflow Smart Home Panel?
I didn't want to be limited to only 12 circuits when I need more than that to run my entire house. I don't need automatic transferring so I am okay just using an interlock switch and generator inlet plug. I can then also use any system, not limited to the Delta Pro Ultra. If you're looking for a system I'd love to help you.
Ecoflow has slick R&D, I’ll give them that.
Have you tried to add a fan generator to charge at night and during snowy/cloudy days?
Great video! I think you need to get rid of that gremlin who used the electric dryer!
I wonder how your test would differ in each season.
Nice to see this test and you seem to confirm some of my concerns. My chief concern is that solar input limit is too low and don't allow you to compensate enough for seasons of poor weather and limited window of charging. For my house, I need the diamond kit, but I am concerned that I won't be able to recharge the batteries enough to make it more than a few days, especially during winter and small windows of high solar production . I have an all electric house. Am I missing something?
For an all electric house, you defintely need a bare minimum of two DPUs and max out the solar panels and batteries. The Diamond Kit sounds like it would be the best fit. If you'd like, I am happy to look at your location to see what would be the best and most affordable setup for you. You can email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com.
I have a question: At 6:33 You mentioned about your LED lights flickering. I've noticed this as well to include the bulb in my refrigerator. Is that concerning when running your AC unit, refrigerator or sensitive electronic equipment long term?
I think a combination of solar and wind is the way to go for total off grid... just my research before the journey... hopefully I can make a video series about it as well ...
Did you just plug your solar directly into the DPU? Or do you have a seperate disconnect?
Question: will this power a grid-tied system to make it charge the EcoFlow during the day? While also powering the house off grid?
Instead of using solar to refill the batteries, Do you know if the Ecoflow Dual fuel Generator can be connected to the Ultra setup?
if you have cell reception, You could have used your phone's hotspot to update your firmware.
What kind of well pump do you have and is it a soft start Pump?
I always have my Wi-Fi on, and my off grid system connected to a USP. It’s just a lead acid battery that lasts for about 20 minutes, hopefully long enough to do the software update.
Hi I am trying to use your code and get the 2 free solar panels with my order but it says the discount code isn't valid for items in my cart. Any suggestions?
What happens if WiFi is down? Can you still control system with a cable/tablet?
Very Cool. Question for you, Sir. I saw one of your more recent videos where you connected a Victron Autoformer to a Delta Pro to make 240V. What a great idea...as I Victron fan I'm surprised it never crossed my mind. I've been wanting a power solution to run our electric dryer and am trying to figure out if I need to pick up an Autoformer (3600W max from my Delta Pro) or if I should pick up a second Delta Pro and do that the "best" way (7200W). My question is, have you noted the power consumption from your dryer when it is set to LOW heat? Do you think I could run on low heat with 3600W or should I build that the "best" way? Thanks!
I have run my electric dryer (it is old, probably at least 30 years) and it draws 5800-6200 watts no matter the setting. It does not run the heater continuously and when the heater is not running the electrical draw is around 500 watts for spinning the drum. So I think the difference between the different settings is how long the heater runs.
Caution: 2 DPro's with the Voltage Hub does NOT draw power from each DP evenly if youre using them to fuel your home panel. I found out the hard way. Each DP draws from the leg of your panel its connecting to via the Voltage Hub. Its apparently only the 240v draw that voltage hub keeps the draw balanced from the 2 DP's. All your 120v function gets assigned to one of the DP's and draws from it. So one DP drains sooner than the other. Not good if u want to run the whole house thru your home panel. Cust serv told me its not like that, and repeated on phone and emails that the draw is supposed to be even, and thats what the voltage hub is for. When I proved with video and quotes from electricians, after TWO MONTHS they finally admitted and agreed to take them back. Now, the DPU is in basement doing the right job. Hope the warning is usefull.
I use about 55 kwh a day.. whats a good set up for that.. i live in South texas
This is the only issue I have in my preps , how do I keep a 4,000 square foot house running in a grid down . Old farm in the burbs that sold off most of the land and now surrounding by houses.
Just want something to run a few fridges, lights , fans , heaters , local city won’t allow panels in the yard , and 60,grand for roof panels is ridiculous.
Dang under 30k n u can powered everything up, that's a steal.
How much did all this cost?? Everything??
what about using a dual-fuel outside generator on low solar days to charge the batteries during the day - so you have quiet power at night?
That could work, as well as any inverter generator but that wasn't what I was testing.
I have to reset my eco flow delta pros every morning to get full solar input. Why is that?
What are your thoughts on the Anker Solix X1?
I think it's a really cool system. For a hardwired system I probably wouldn't go with it but it's absolutely a good option and seems to be working well for people. I may be lucky enough to get my hands on one to try out and review.
what's the recipe for the red chicken?
hmmm you can buy battery cells now with the same capacity (6kwh) for around 480$ and then size your inverter for your needs better. 1/6th the cost lol.
This was interesting.... Just buy a portable dual fuel generator as a backup on those "no sun" days! I have the ultra as well for my townhome. That is the gamechanger....lol
I wish I could afford that. We are off grid and we only have a 600 watt bank and 2 200 watt banks. The neighbors dogs broke my panel for my 200 watt banks and my 600 watt bank has a 100 watt panel. I hope some day to be able to have a better system.
Use your phone as a hotspot for the Wi-Fi
Have you heard of the new Powerstation about to come out called FORCE 15k? It looks promising and might give the Ecoflow DPU a Run for it's money
The Force might be cheaper but expandability is minimal. Also the ease of use on the delta is why it cost a little more. I like the cheaper products but I’m no electrician and my electrician might only charge me $500 to install this compared to $2000 to install something else.
Is there any way to get just the delta pro ultra inverter module. I already have the delt pro with two batteries.
Yes we can get the DPU inverter only, but it doesn't work with Delta Pro batteries. It must use Delta Pro Ultra batteries.
Will this run and charge in subzero weather off the grid (Minnesota winter) none heated outdoor building?
Yes, the batteries have built in heaters for when it dips below 32 degrees. If you're interested in getting one I'd love to help you get a system put together and save you money. You can email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com if you'd like.
I am curious, what are the specs on your water well pump? I have a single phase, 3-wire, 3 hp, 3170 Watt (full load), 40 amp max (in rush current). I am thinking I would need two delta ultra inverters with 50 amp box to accomadate this water pump. Does this sound right to you?
Also, what type of water well filter are you using for your drinking water? Or are you mainly using the berkey filter for that?
How many kWh does your home use in a month?
My only note is be careful charging that in sub zero temperatures. The delta pro uses LFP battery cells which can easily be damaged if you charge them at 32 degrees or below which it certainly looks like you have those temperatures there. I’d suggest contacting eco flow and ask them how to best go about charging it in those temperatures
Luckily for me, my garage doesn't get below 32F. And the Ultra batteries have built in heaters if it does get below 32F.
@@minutemanprep built in heaters??? Why wasn't this talked about? That's an awesome and genius feature!
@@trevorm7013 I forgot. Since it didn't apply to my situation I forgot to bring it up.
Needs to run AC unit
I notice that your main breaker is 200 AMP and your breaker for the solar generator is 60 AMP.
My question is how can you run your house with a 60 AMP input breaker?
Great question. That's because my house doesn't use anywhere close to 200a. The vast majority of houses don't run close to 200a. If your house is all electric, and you run your dryer, A/C, well pump, laundry machine, dishwasher, water heater, and other appliances all at the same time, you'd be using around 75a. That is considered an extremely high load all at once. Electrical panels have to be 200a rated according to national electric code. But that has nothing to do with how much people truly run.
With that Wi-Fi thing at the end, you could Theoretically put a UPS with the Wi-Fi but as I was typing this in if you put like an EcoFlow river 2…. Also need a software update, it would turn off the Wi-Fi connection for your EcoFlow river two because they can’t power it and your Delta pro ultra, so Probably get one of those computer ups System.
should have used that other powerbank to give emergency power into the delta pro ultra, thats what i would have done anyway, especially since i used the ecoflow to fill it up first
Did your GoPro come out clean and fresh? 😂
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So, if you get the max configuration, you can live offgrid forever
How much did your entire setup cost? Are there any maintenance costs?
It's the Bronze kit from PoweredPortableSolar.com plus four more panels. So a little less then $12,000. No maintenance. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com for extra help.
@@minutemanprep Bro, this is the fastest response I've ever gotten from a TH-cam comment. And you answered the question perfectly. I very much appreciate that lol. Currently, my breaker planel is all messed up. I'm hiring an electrician to fix it and expand it for more breakers. I was hoping to do a portable backup power system of some kind that recharges with solar, with an interlock transfer switch. I wanted to do a standby system, but the generac quote I got for a 24k watt system was $22k... no bueno. So that's when I started exploring systems like yours. VERY impressive btw. I have a million questions, I'll start by checking out your website first, I did check my monthly grid bill, my highest was 1762kWh. I'd love to go off grid with the option to switch back on grid like you too. I'm just starting this journey and have a ton to learn.
No problem! I'm happy to help. It's easy to start with a basic system and then grow it over time to cover everything. Over 1,700 kWh is petty high but it's definitely possible. I think it'll be good to have the electrical panel reorganized.
A great sweet setup! There is one issue as you brought up about the firmware update and having to be tied to Wi-Fi. Another issue that I always think about with all the solar generators and power stations is that they are tied to a Wi-Fi app. Now here's the situation if the Wi-Fi grid goes down for one reason or another then you're kind of screwed. The other conundrum is that, if you're tied to the app then they can shut it off at their will at any time your whole system. So basically a cyber attack. Also they can track you and know where you are with that app. The only thing I could think to get around that is have a VPN and set the VPN to a communist block country like China Russia Turkey etc. but it is a little nerve-wracking to be that tied to the web. Believe me I know if I web or internet goes down for 5 minutes I start seeing pink elephants and getting the shakes😅😅 is there a way where you don't have to use the app at all and be tied to it? Also if you're still being tied to the power company they still charge a service charge every month so even if you don't use any energy you still at least have to pay 20 to $25 a month if not more!
So can I use this unit without wifi?
Yes. But it's best to do the firmware update at least once.
I like wildlands more than breakpoint.
I liked some of the breakpoint options. Honestly sometimes i wish they would just re release the game with updated options. Not just graphics. But the same game with a new engine, graphics, fix some of the story, maybe make map bigger. Adding another fire team team too would rule. But i gotta restart your video now, c ya.
Did you buy this Ecoflow Deltra Pro Ultra or was it given to you by Ecoflow at no cost? Basically I want to know if this video is sponsored or not.
Yes it.was a gift
I spend about $1500 a year on my electric bill. I do not have anything to maintain or replace when it wears out. I guess it all boils down to how you look at things. I cannot see how you come out better on power usage. I keep a backup system if I lose power. I would not like to spend the amount of time you spend on your power when the savings does not seem that much. Everyone should do what they think is best. I know that you make money showcasing products which is smart.
wheres the video on building the array shown @3:16?
I didn't do a full video, but I did a short about them here: th-cam.com/users/shorts6XmyxxfXZ7E?si=-wdOnFNQPml8mTtR
@@minutemanprep any issues with the wind grabbing them?
@@jimmy4518 No. I use two 2 inch "anvil" brand clamps from Home Depot to hold the panel to the frame. We have a lot of high wind here in Idaho and have not had issues with the wind pulling them off. My previous ground mount had that issue and this one has worked great.
Two solutions,one add more delta pro ultra batteries and invest in a wind turbine generator.
You know that's kind of funny because you told us you had to tighten at the cabin.
A natural generator it's a check on the minimum amount of batteries.
Much might be much weaker but I'm pretty sure that I could run the Internet.
Hey my dear friend. I desperately need your help. I need the best power bank that I can get for $3,000. My budget limit. What do you recommend?
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I don't know what your power needs are. But for under $3,000, I'd recommend this: oupes.com/products/oupes-mega-3-home-backup-portable-power-station-3600w-3072wh?ref=va1y1jwb&variant=43590818693297. With the expansion battery you're under $3,000 but will have over 5kwh of capacity. This doesn't include solar panels, cables, adapters and and so on. But this is my top recommendation for under $3,000.
Someone turns on electric dryer: Oh no! i have to stop this test because there is totally no stop button on the dryer!
are you joking? hjustb open the door. or rotate the control to the 'stop' postion
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Why no windmills to generate when the sun is down or on a cloudy day? The wind should still be blowing to make up the difference?
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If you had 5 of the ultra batteries you could do it
I think you're right. With 5 batteries I would've faired much better. I'd still like a little more solar input. So I am looking at getting another DPU and batteries to see how that would work.
Will Titan ever release a Titan Solar Generator 2???! Inquiring minds want to know!
They have released actually two more last year. Check Point Zero energys home page.
They did 240 he did not like it.
We could have probably went another day if we weren't an idiot with the dryer,du-hu
Over $16k ? My yearly electricity bill is less to $850 per year. So would that almost 20 years to justify.
I run a small inverter generator & two 1000 watt battery power stations w/ solar panels as my back up, less then $2000 invested.