CHECK IT OUT: gohobo.io/shp2 use code EFDPUHOBO8 to get 2*220W Solar Panels($1,298) for free (Valid until May 31st) CHECK OUT THE DEDICATED DPU REVIEW: th-cam.com/video/PNz4WmT7Hr0/w-d-xo.html --- Now enjoy 12-month interest-free payments plan offer, available for as little as $484 per month. For TX & CA homeowners: check out the latest ‘Hassle-Free bundle’- including a DELTA Pro Ultra, a Smart Home Panel 2, plus installation service, all for just $8,499. for all US homeowners: The Smart Home Panel 2 Installation Consulting Service ensures a worry-free setup by tracking orders, managing fittings, and answering technical queries. (claim a $500 refund with customer service) *Don't forget the 30% federal tax credit for hooking the Ecoflow into your home!*
Hi there Tried to pick "EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Whole-Home Backup Power" (Inverter + battery). System gives "EFDPUHOBO8 discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart". Is $800 discount still valid?
Thanks a lot, I have the system coming in a weeks time, that cover issue would have gotten me too, the old phone boxes had a cover that grounded the system when closed, would not work otherwise. Tricky, they need to mention that in the instructions 100%
Congratulations on the 195k I’m glad to see you moving up 😊 This is more impressive than all others on how this is working. Much more detailed information. Thanks 🙏
13cents per KWH. Thats practically Free!!! Come to California and pay 87cents per KWH. Then 3 rate increases annually happens often. Bring Lots $Money when you move to California. More if you want to Eat Everyday.
No thanks. Already served my 20 year sentence in Cali. When I left, I was paying 19.5 cents. I'm sure it's far worse now. Sounds like this would pay for itself very fast!
We left SF a couple of years ago, and we were paying ~25¢ per kWh. I don't know what mansion you live in that hits usage levels that put you into an 87¢ per kWh tier.
Excellent video Hobo tech!!!I would love a larger unit like this Delta Pro ultra !!!!On a side note....The Pecron E2000 LFP has changed and now has a 30 amp rv plug on the newly released units💪
Good review. I have a very similar setup. The review reflects my experience for most aspects of the SHP2 but you should do more review on the grid tied functions. Why? The actual orchestration of the SHP2 and attached DPUs is limited and has some challenges when you mix grid and solar. Especially if the goal is to roll back the meter (like the title of the video). One major limitation is the "max charge" for the DPUs. The max charge is shared by all inputs. So when grid tied, and the batteries are allowed to charge, they will quickly charge on grid AC, reach the max charge limit, but then none of your solar energy will benefit the batteries unless you actually consume some of the battery energy. Having the ability to charge to x% (aka set a target for a charging task) or having a different max charge for grid vs solar, would allow for much better orchestration between grid and solar. As the professor you should also measure the "loss" between AC charge and AC discharge on the power IN/OUT port. Just by being connected to the SHP2 the batteries will drain a few percentage points everyday (could be improved by shutting down all but one inverter for example until they are required). Not all DPU inverters are equal, on average I see 15% loss between my charge/discharge. But one of my inverters is an outlier at 38% loss. Please keep the data and reviews flowing.
Hey Doctor Hobo, thanks for doing this video. I look forward to some of your additional and long term testing of this system. I think it's cool you can also use the Smart Home Panel (Ver. 2), with up to 3 older Delta Pros as well. 👍 I like stuff that is backwards compatible with older (Read less expensive) technology.
Is it possable to just run a gas generator, 240v to the DPU for charging on cloudy days. Then run a 240v out from the DPU to a small breaker box for distributing small loads for off grid living? This is just for a single DPU unit.
Curious if you were able to power the SHP2 via a 120v generator to charge the attached DPU batteries? Or do the attached DPU batteries only charge when using a 240v generator via the SHP2?
Wow! I’m looking at this for my home in TX and shooting for the hassle free kit. Looks like a great investment! We have consistent serious power outages and horrible energy rates here, so being able to tell centerpoint to kick rocks is gonna feel real good haha.
Which battery is a good add to a system that has 14kw panels? Goal is to charge when over producing then fill the gap when pulling more than producing.
Good evening Professor hobo I just want to know The ecoflex ultra pre If I place it beside a TV will it give off any magnetic field what can affect the television
@HOBOTECH - Does the Smart Home Panel 2 revert to a dumb panel if the electronics on it fail? Would really hate if I relocate all my critical circuits there (as the company intends) and something gets fried or bricked for whatever reason.
The Smart panel is $1899 and the quotes I’ve gotten from electricians so far to install it is around $2000. That’s in addition to the inverters, batteries and solar panels. That’s a lot of extra money. Couldn’t you run the two inverters with the 50amp hub, and back feed to your existing circuit box (albeit w/o the fancy features) and call it a day?
Yep but then you have none of the smart features and no grid charging ability. You could install cheaper by doing what I did and install the panel next to your existing vs replace. Also the panel is a lot cheaper in the bundle with my $800 off code.
I asked electricians how much it costs to install a 100A sub panel beside your current panel and you want to move a few circuits to the sub panel from the main. If you tell them it's smart or any of that extra nonsense they assume you have money. You tell them you will provide the subpanel and my quote was $800. And then when he came to install it he charged an extra 100 to put in the conduit for the plug for the battery.
@@Robulite You got a deal my SHP 2 cost me $3100 to install, but here in East Texas any of the trade workers like electricians, A/C techs, wood workers, plumbers (had a $10K quote once from a plumber to move some plumbing around in one bathroom!), remodeling guys etc... are stupid expensive. The electric company charged me $160 and hour per worker and I had 2 of them there for over 8 hours!
He said he was running 6/3 Romex which is NOT rated for conduit except as a sleeve. Also he appears to have run plumbing conduit vs electrical conduit. They're both schedule 40 but one isn't listed for electrical use. They also mentioned the original plan was to run the cat 6 with the power in the same conduit. which is a no no as well. I'm guessing the person hired was maybe a handyman that "knows how to do electric " vs an actual licensed electrician.
@@HOBOTECH thanks, I’ve been subscribed for a long time and used your codes multiple times. It will be really nice to see a detailed comparison between the two systems. To know what the smart option brings to the table, and how much I will overpay for it. Is it worth it? I'm sure lots of people will be interested to know that as well.
Great video! I’m a bit confused how the smart panel gets power from the Ultra at the same time as line power. It looked like that switch in the main panel was an either or option.
How did you update the firmware on the SHP2 and connect to the app without being installed? I think you do say you did that at the start of the video but did not go into details. I have seen some videos where people run into that issue as the grid is off while this is being installed and downloading necessary firmware for installation completion is not possible.
Grid isn't required to do an update. You simply connect and turn on whatever power station you're using and that powers the SHP2 for BT access. App will auto detect, you then setup the WiFi and then do updates.
This may seem like a dumb or crazy idea but I'll ask it anyway. I have a pre-existing large solar array that feeds directly back to the grid. I' like to have a battery backup system as well as one that can power my 220v crypto rigs. This seems like a great solution for both, but rather than buying separate solar panels, I'd like to see if I can tap into my current system. Is it possible to just add an outlet to the line that is feeding directly back into the grid power in my fusebox and charge the DPU via the 220v input? Or is that crazy/dangerous? 🙂
Great content Professor! Your knowledge is "next level" and appreciated! My knowledge about how these connects are made in this area is below average. Question??? I have Sunrun rooftop solar panels (2017 install). Is it possible to continue to send my solar energy back to the grid as I have been for years AND connect my new EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra batteries to my solar to charge my batteries using the Sunrun solar? What equipment and connects would I be looking at to get the job done? Big thanks for your guidance.
HoBo, I’m having a 850 SQf Amish cabin built. I really want the option of being off grid. They will install a transfer switch as an upgrade, but I’m thinking I’d rather have them install this home panel 2 instead of the included 200 amp service panel and the transfer switch. I’d like to do the rest of the project myself. Is the smart panel 2 meant to work in this type of installation?
I read through different comments and replies you gave. You said the shp2 had to have some sort of power to work but during a blackout the only source of power it would have would come from the battery setup from my understanding. I have searched everywhere I can to determine if this panel requires 240 or can it run with just 120 like from a single delta pro with a single infinity cord and have found nothing. I have a 400 square foot cabin with a 100 amp panel and nothing that goes over 120v as well as less than 12 breakers. I would love to put this in and use the original delta pros with it. Can it be done?
I need something just a little bigger. 12 circuits is not enough, but 20 would be nice. I've been eying SPAN but this integration with battery seems better. I was ready to buy SPAN, but now I want to wait a year or two. It seems like we are in the middle of another electric revolution.
I want to run my desktop Computer on a solar generator 24/7 with Solar & A/C plugged in at the same time. I want it to run on solar power but have the A/C power kick in if the battery gets too low. Can this unit (or any unit) do this??
Just a FYI, I have 2 Power kits, each connected in parallel to the smart home panel 1 via the power kit infinity cables, NOT available on the Ecoflow website??? Fortunately my Ecoflow dealer had them in stock and works great. basically 7200 watt output @ 230v here in Europe. I can use washer/dryer, water pumps, 2 x 12000btu ac units, some MIG welding, no problem. In the USA/Canada It's gonna be series connection to give the 240v split phase. I highly recommend the Power kits for off grid and RV, Boats. Awesome stuff from Ecoflow💖
Not sure if Power Kits can do split phase 240v as required here in the US. I asked them last year, they said there was no way to do it. That's really its only flaw.
Did the retail version solve the problem of only being able to draw 6400 watts for 5 minutes instead of the claimed 7200w inverter? Was there a new firmware version for the retail version? Thank you for the work you do putting these videos together. I'm new to this and am learning over time.
I saw in the video that you are in Arizona. Can the smart home panel be mounted outside? I still think that I would keep the power supplies inside because of the heat but given that my circuit breaker panel is outside, I would probably have to mount the smart home panel outside too.
You can do what I did and use one of the output circuits from the smart home panel to feed another entire breaker box. I think the per circuit limit is 60A so you can't exceed that.
Very informative! Curious to see how this would work with a bidirectional charging setup with an electric car (this unit plus a Decebel R16 or Quasar 2 bidirectional charger).
I do have a question, at 10:55 of your video you are showing your Smart Home Panel 2 install, it appears that you are using in breaker spot 2 a tandem or split breaker. is that true? That would allow you to almost double your circuit counts. However you would not have individual control on each circuit on port 2 so if you turn off circuit 2 electronically both circuits on circuit 2 would shut off. Also, what is the max Amp on the Smart Home Panel 2 would it support 200amp as a main panel ion a home?
Is charging speed from “grid” any different if you have 2 DPU’s and the SHP2? I know you covered charging the DPU via 120v & 240v in the 1st video, but the biggest drawback for me is only being able to charge my DPU (1 inverter, 1 battery) at 1800w using 120v while outputting 240v via inverter. I know you can charge at 3000w via 240v, but it turns the output circuits off. If I could charge faster from “grid” while still keeping my 240v output it would be very helpful.
Yes, the integration kit allows the home panel to charge the DPU with 120v grid/gen while still providing 240v output. The home panel disables the DPU outlets, so you can only pull AC from the home panel. I was able to charge both DPUs at 3600w each simultaneously.
Which Brand and Model do you recommend for running a house that was sized for a 30Kw Natural Gas Generator? we are locate West Virginia. Please advise.
I'm here in Tucson and I have the Eco Flow Delta Pro Ultra with three batteries (two being shipped) I also have the A510A 50-amp transfer switch and 11 400-watt bi-facial panels coming soon. I want to power our 3-ton heat pump split central system. The problem is that the transfer switch panel did not come with a cord to connect from the panel to the DPU. What do I need to hook this up?
I love the Ecoflow products and have 2 Delta pros and a solar panel myself, but I have significant concerns about what happens to that Ecoflow app if the US and China start shooting at each other. Of course there will be a whole lot of other worse things to contend with in that case.
I am seeing users on reddit having problems with the SHP 2 reliability and service. relay failures and error messages that shut down the panel with long delays in getting service. Is there a way to setup these smart panels but still be able to use the original subpanel without any delays?
I had issues with mine early on (being a prototype) but firmware has made it very stable. You can do what I did, and just run one SHP2 breaker to power your original box. If you have a failure of some kind, you can physically switch it back easy.
Because of THIS GREAT video I was able to educate my idiot electricians Ecoflow sent to me to install my smart panel 2. Yup, the Ecoflow certified electricians they sent to my house said they’ve never installed internet to the prior panels and all there prior installs the customer just wanted it without a cat6 cable. I called BS because you can’t just install the panel and leave without going through the app to program it. WHAT ARE YOU SENDING ME ECOFLOW!!!! They are still installing and have been here all day. I showed them this video and asked them WTH are you doing? Yes, I’m out here in Commifornia and these guys are stupid!
They probably didn't want to run that line. It's extra work and they probably don't get paid. Yes, a wired connection is the best for Internet connectivity. They may be able to use a amplifier hooked to a 120v receptacle. It has a cat 5 connection. I have only used this method with enphase systems. I am a Electrician and have installed solar systems. I have computer, cell phone and Computer software experience. I plan to provide this type of grid less system that involves less if the power company and service company to empower My customers. Good luck everyone.
I noticed that the app will let you specify the generator input as 110v. Do you know how to wire it to the panel in that situation? Just use L1 (and the panel does the magic to power both sides) or run L1 to both sides? I hope that makes sense as I am really curious. Thanks!
Neither, because they don't block EMPs so save your money. A basic lighting surge protector from Home Depot does the same thing a lot cheaper. It goes into your main breaker box.
Why does the smart home panel have a generator / grid interlock? When grid power goes out the panel gets power from the batteries. When on batterie backup, how does the panel not backfeed the grid connection? If there is a way to cut off the backfeed, why isn't that same mechanism used to cut the grid backfeed when a generator is feeding the panel?
It's for bad weather days when solar won't work. You hook a 120v/240v generator (or other power source) to charge the batteries. It doesn't back feed because the panel has a built in auto transfer switch.
Now you need a street battery for each of those generators and you'll be set even though they could take up the 5 batteries.That you need at least 3 and that's also so I could use the full output of the generators.Else you're not quite using the full output of the generators.
Questions that someone can hopefully answer. So if I have solar panels on my roof. Do they go straight into this Unit, or am I plugging this into an outlet when the solar panels on the roof are active and I’m actually just pulling from an outlet that is pulling from solar? Does this do the entire, 20 millisecond transfer time? In a blackout does this instantly run everything without me moving from the couch? Can this power everything. We have a large house but don’t use everything all at once. But we have 3 floors, 3 AC units. And about 4600 square feet. So, can I make the smart panel transfer everything from the main panel and just, time of use this thing? Because I was sold on the power wall. Then I waited for the Anker x1. (Which they cared more about form than function. And they aren’t releasing prices) But this could be great if I’m pulling from the panels. (And I can add a second panel set up on top of the shed) to pull power. Then switch everything to this and say, 18kwh or backup batteries after 6pm. Coast on the dpu to power our house until the sun is shining again. And then never deal with Time of use charges. So if anyone sees the questions there and knows the answers let me know. Thanks for everyone help.
Most of your questions can be answered by watching the original Delta Pro Ultra review linked in the description. Yes, it can run your home, including 3-4 ton HVACs. Yes, it's all automatic.
Great info, as always! Would you recommend this system over the powerwall 3 system? I'm currently in the market, and Costco has a bundle deal of $6999 for 12kWh or $8999 for 18kWh. $1k additional with smart home panel 2 (no info on expansion battery packs as I would like 24 or 30kWhs minimum to have peace of mind come winter storm season etc) I have a virtual consultation with Tesla but it's good to know that I can get one with ecoflow as well in Texas. Thanks for the videos and TIA for your input! 🤓
Of course, when I get one of those or 2 of those, I'll get the hub. I get the home panel and I hope each. I'll actually hook it up to the hub. Just to hook it up to the home panel. Just so I actually have a 50 amp plugin for a 50 amp plugin. Not a 30 amp 2 off 50AMP to make A50AM. Then plug it into a 50 amp plug in home panel that it works.
Also, your installer who ran your conduit and forgot the cat6, did you a favor, never share the same electrical conduit with a data cable. You run the chance of electromagnetic interference jumping on to your data lines. Ask me how I know! If you do run it parallel, right against it you have to use shielded cat five or six cable.
Thank you for this video. I really like the "Power Insight"? (Android Tablet) -- I am confused about the grid requirement. Are you saying it won't work complete off-grid without an external generator for the sine wave signal?
So couldn't you do a work around by adding a 30 amp plug to your main panel and use a delta pro or something like that to provide the 120v. Then you are still off grid and able to power the panel.
@@davidbailey3289 You would need some sort of Transfer Switch for sure, because if you hook directly to the main panel you would definitely backfeed into the utility, and potentially cause a disaster. Almost certainly it would be out of phase as well.
Sir you did a good job but I know there's always a but. I worked in the IT field at college for 27yrs. You don't wanna run your cat5/6 network cable inside the same conduit with your power cables. Still though awesome video I wish I had your knowledge.
Just got myself a dpu with your code on prime day. Question is there is some way to better monitor the solar input. I’m used to see volts amps and watts. I am only seeing watts. ???
I really like this and want it. It's not exactly in my priorities right now. However Feb. 2026 will be my last payment on my home grid tied solar. I would like to supplement that with a moderate size off grid set up like 5-7 kW of solar panels and I would need a lot of battery to go along with it.
I think you make great video's... Thank you. I do have a question, I am planning on building on a new property, 1st an out building with a home in the future. The electrical supply is approx. 2000 ft away. It will cost $50,000 to $100,000 to bring in a supply. I really like this Ecoflow Ultra thinking 3 inverters with 2-3 batteries per inverter each to start. We plan on using 15kw of solar and will have a small dual fuel generator, and some small wind to help out. My question is, if you were building this project would you use the EcoFlow ultra for total off grid or do you have a better solution. I would really appreciate your input.
This is the easy no brainer solution with a warranty. If you want to build your own from scratch there are many options. None are smart like this product. Depends on what you want.
First, I didn't do the install. Second, it's legal to use Sched 80 PVC for indoor conduit. We got what was available at our local store. Of course it's shielded Ethernet.
Hi I’m building a 2024 Sprinter 144. My electric setup requires 4 100AH batteries, can you recommend a brand to me. I would like to support your channel as I have followed you for years. Thank you
So what you do when you don't have a power company, you have to have some sort of power going to or is that just gonna be my power which that would be my power line line? Which would be the Delta pro ultra. And backup power while. I don't know what that would be because I don't got main line called. Electric company, so how does that work for that?Send send the equal Delta pro ultra. Would be my power Company.
To be fair, if Hobotech has European or UK viewers, some of them might chime in and ask what-about questions, a small percentage might complain about how stupid our system is,etc…. If seen that on other channels. And as you say, there is also the need for the Prof to do some CYA.
For double the inverter wattage, double the solar charging rate, and double redundancy. I'm planning EV charging and it's also connected to my home now. Need that 14.4kw inverter.
Federal solar tax credits you can claim only once for the year you install a solar system. However, if the credit is more than the taxes you owe, it will roll over to the next tax year for up to five years. Under the Inflation Reduction Act, passed in August 2022, the federal solar tax credit is worth 30% of your total system cost. You can not claim this every year.
Been waiting for the ridiculous prices to come down. Im guessing the breaker box is a massive pain in the #%€ to install considering that every video skips over the wiring part. But with all the complaints Im hearing about Echo Flo I’ll probably pull the trigger on the Anchor 3800 if they ad pass through charging.
The good old days of cheap easy money are gone. Welcome to inflation and high taxation. Wiring is easy. It's 4 wires + network cable. It's running the cable that's a pain.
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Tried to pick "EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Whole-Home Backup Power" (Inverter + battery). System gives "EFDPUHOBO8 discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart". Is $800 discount still valid?
Thanks a lot, I have the system coming in a weeks time, that cover issue would have gotten me too, the old phone boxes had a cover that grounded the system when closed, would not work otherwise.
Tricky, they need to mention that in the instructions 100%
Welcome back from the desert. We've been waiting for your return.
I guess you didn't see my video last week either?
No, I didn't. I will look for it and watch it.
The one where you shot your bougie solar panel?
@@davelamontThis one came out just over a week ago. Apparently, no one watched it. th-cam.com/video/P6zGG7OYy9g/w-d-xo.html
Congratulations on the 195k I’m glad to see you moving up 😊
This is more impressive than all others on how this is working. Much more detailed information. Thanks 🙏
13cents per KWH. Thats practically Free!!! Come to California and pay 87cents per KWH. Then 3 rate increases annually happens often. Bring Lots $Money when you move to California. More if you want to Eat Everyday.
No thanks. Already served my 20 year sentence in Cali. When I left, I was paying 19.5 cents. I'm sure it's far worse now. Sounds like this would pay for itself very fast!
@@HOBOTECH San Diego. Summer Peak Rate. 82cents per KHW.
None of my Cali friends and family believed me a decade ago that electricity rates can change. 😂
I would leave that hole for a million other reasons also. Let Gavin rule over nobody
We left SF a couple of years ago, and we were paying ~25¢ per kWh. I don't know what mansion you live in that hits usage levels that put you into an 87¢ per kWh tier.
This is going to be an excellent series. I think a lot of people want to do exactly what you are doing.
I have never seen a slider switch before...7:00
Nice to get all this free equipment...
Very Cool !! Great install
Excellent video Hobo tech!!!I would love a larger unit like this Delta Pro ultra !!!!On a side note....The Pecron E2000 LFP has changed and now has a 30 amp rv plug on the newly released units💪
Good review. I have a very similar setup. The review reflects my experience for most aspects of the SHP2 but you should do more review on the grid tied functions. Why? The actual orchestration of the SHP2 and attached DPUs is limited and has some challenges when you mix grid and solar. Especially if the goal is to roll back the meter (like the title of the video). One major limitation is the "max charge" for the DPUs. The max charge is shared by all inputs. So when grid tied, and the batteries are allowed to charge, they will quickly charge on grid AC, reach the max charge limit, but then none of your solar energy will benefit the batteries unless you actually consume some of the battery energy. Having the ability to charge to x% (aka set a target for a charging task) or having a different max charge for grid vs solar, would allow for much better orchestration between grid and solar. As the professor you should also measure the "loss" between AC charge and AC discharge on the power IN/OUT port. Just by being connected to the SHP2 the batteries will drain a few percentage points everyday (could be improved by shutting down all but one inverter for example until they are required). Not all DPU inverters are equal, on average I see 15% loss between my charge/discharge. But one of my inverters is an outlier at 38% loss. Please keep the data and reviews flowing.
The design reminds me of a classic Klipsch horn floor standing speaker.
Hey Doctor Hobo, thanks for doing this video. I look forward to some of your additional and long term testing of this system. I think it's cool you can also use the Smart Home Panel (Ver. 2), with up to 3 older Delta Pros as well. 👍 I like stuff that is backwards compatible with older (Read less expensive) technology.
I'd love to hear how the home panel would work with another inverter system as the source like you mentioned. Great review!💡
Is it possable to just run a gas generator, 240v to the DPU for charging on cloudy days. Then run a 240v out from the DPU to a small breaker box for distributing small loads for off grid living? This is just for a single DPU unit.
Curious if you were able to power the SHP2 via a 120v generator to charge the attached DPU batteries? Or do the attached DPU batteries only charge when using a 240v generator via the SHP2?
Wow! I’m looking at this for my home in TX and shooting for the hassle free kit. Looks like a great investment! We have consistent serious power outages and horrible energy rates here, so being able to tell centerpoint to kick rocks is gonna feel real good haha.
Which battery is a good add to a system that has 14kw panels? Goal is to charge when over producing then fill the gap when pulling more than producing.
What about connecting anker solix x1 anker smart panal connecting like tesla powerwall 3 will work
That's a nice and POWERFUL system...and so many options😁
Good evening
Professor hobo
I just want to know
The ecoflex ultra pre
If I place it beside a TV will it give off any magnetic field what can affect the television
Exactly how is it turning the meter backwards???? It doesn't not have sync capacity for gridtied use...
Thank you for the feedback!!!
I liked the looks of the interlock kit on your breaker panel. What brand and model is it?
How do you deal with the code requirement for shutdown of the inverters for a scenario like firefighting? Did you do something with the EPO port?
@HOBOTECH - Does the Smart Home Panel 2 revert to a dumb panel if the electronics on it fail? Would really hate if I relocate all my critical circuits there (as the company intends) and something gets fried or bricked for whatever reason.
The Smart panel is $1899 and the quotes I’ve gotten from electricians so far to install it is around $2000. That’s in addition to the inverters, batteries and solar panels. That’s a lot of extra money. Couldn’t you run the two inverters with the 50amp hub, and back feed to your existing circuit box (albeit w/o the fancy features) and call it a day?
Yep but then you have none of the smart features and no grid charging ability. You could install cheaper by doing what I did and install the panel next to your existing vs replace. Also the panel is a lot cheaper in the bundle with my $800 off code.
I asked electricians how much it costs to install a 100A sub panel beside your current panel and you want to move a few circuits to the sub panel from the main. If you tell them it's smart or any of that extra nonsense they assume you have money. You tell them you will provide the subpanel and my quote was $800. And then when he came to install it he charged an extra 100 to put in the conduit for the plug for the battery.
@@Robulite You got a deal my SHP 2 cost me $3100 to install, but here in East Texas any of the trade workers like electricians, A/C techs, wood workers, plumbers (had a $10K quote once from a plumber to move some plumbing around in one bathroom!), remodeling guys etc... are stupid expensive. The electric company charged me $160 and hour per worker and I had 2 of them there for over 8 hours!
Is there a way to expand the number of slots in the smart home panel?
Each 240v circuit (6) can handle 60A. So you can spawn a subpanel off each for 3x 20A or 4x 15A circuits.
@HOBOTECH ah okay. I was thinking of replacing my main panel with it but I guess that's not possible with just one smart panel.
Is that cable rated for conduit?
He said he was running 6/3 Romex which is NOT rated for conduit except as a sleeve.
Also he appears to have run plumbing conduit vs electrical conduit. They're both schedule 40 but one isn't listed for electrical use.
They also mentioned the original plan was to run the cat 6 with the power in the same conduit. which is a no no as well.
I'm guessing the person hired was maybe a handyman that "knows how to do electric " vs an actual licensed electrician.
Your thoughts on this vs eg4 with rack mounted batteries?
This system is smart, eg4 is dumb.
@@HOBOTECH thanks, I’ve been subscribed for a long time and used your codes multiple times. It will be really nice to see a detailed comparison between the two systems. To know what the smart option brings to the table, and how much I will overpay for it. Is it worth it? I'm sure lots of people will be interested to know that as well.
Great video! I’m a bit confused how the smart panel gets power from the Ultra at the same time as line power. It looked like that switch in the main panel was an either or option.
Hi, Is it a grid tied inverter? will solar power through main panel or just 12 breakers in smart panel 2
Was this before or after that huge home system you installed yourself from Pennsylvania?
How did you update the firmware on the SHP2 and connect to the app without being installed? I think you do say you did that at the start of the video but did not go into details. I have seen some videos where people run into that issue as the grid is off while this is being installed and downloading necessary firmware for installation completion is not possible.
Grid isn't required to do an update. You simply connect and turn on whatever power station you're using and that powers the SHP2 for BT access. App will auto detect, you then setup the WiFi and then do updates.
This may seem like a dumb or crazy idea but I'll ask it anyway. I have a pre-existing large solar array that feeds directly back to the grid. I' like to have a battery backup system as well as one that can power my 220v crypto rigs. This seems like a great solution for both, but rather than buying separate solar panels, I'd like to see if I can tap into my current system.
Is it possible to just add an outlet to the line that is feeding directly back into the grid power in my fusebox and charge the DPU via the 220v input? Or is that crazy/dangerous? 🙂
What happends if the batteries are at 100% does the solar energy goes back to the grid?
You can set it up to do that. Solar will also power loads directly.
Great intro sfx!
Is there a follow up video to this?
What didn't I cover?
Great content Professor! Your knowledge is "next level" and appreciated! My knowledge about how these connects are made in this area is below average. Question??? I have Sunrun rooftop solar panels (2017 install). Is it possible to continue to send my solar energy back to the grid as I have been for years AND connect my new EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra batteries to my solar to charge my batteries using the Sunrun solar? What equipment and connects would I be looking at to get the job done? Big thanks for your guidance.
Do you HAVE to use that smart panel? If the combiner base is removable from the panel ... could you just run the wires into a normal UL panel?
You can use your own panel.
HoBo, I’m having a 850 SQf Amish cabin built. I really want the option of being off grid. They will install a transfer switch as an upgrade, but I’m thinking I’d rather have them install this home panel 2 instead of the included 200 amp service panel and the transfer switch. I’d like to do the rest of the project myself. Is the smart panel 2 meant to work in this type of installation?
Where is the power coming from that charges your batteries when they’re connected to the smart home panel 2, like which circuits?
Power comes from the batteries, which are charged either with grid or solar depending on settings.
This system sounds amazing for the usual emergency situations but I wonder if this unit has any EMP protection. If not, how could someone protect it?
I read through different comments and replies you gave. You said the shp2 had to have some sort of power to work but during a blackout the only source of power it would have would come from the battery setup from my understanding. I have searched everywhere I can to determine if this panel requires 240 or can it run with just 120 like from a single delta pro with a single infinity cord and have found nothing. I have a 400 square foot cabin with a 100 amp panel and nothing that goes over 120v as well as less than 12 breakers. I would love to put this in and use the original delta pros with it. Can it be done?
Just like any other breaker box, only one side will have power if hooked to a 120v generator.
With 2 DPU's can you run solar to both? Say 11.2 KW of max solar input?
Oh yes. I have 4000w running to each of mine.
8000 watts of solar. Nice
I need something just a little bigger. 12 circuits is not enough, but 20 would be nice. I've been eying SPAN but this integration with battery seems better. I was ready to buy SPAN, but now I want to wait a year or two. It seems like we are in the middle of another electric revolution.
You can do what I did and run a 50A out to a sub panel.
I want to run my desktop Computer on a solar generator 24/7 with Solar & A/C plugged in at the same time. I want it to run on solar power but have the A/C power kick in if the battery gets too low. Can this unit (or any unit) do this??
Just a FYI, I have 2 Power kits, each connected in parallel to the smart home panel 1 via the power kit infinity cables, NOT available on the Ecoflow website??? Fortunately my Ecoflow dealer had them in stock and works great. basically 7200 watt output @ 230v here in Europe. I can use washer/dryer, water pumps, 2 x 12000btu ac units, some MIG welding, no problem. In the USA/Canada It's gonna be series connection to give the 240v split phase. I highly recommend the Power kits for off grid and RV, Boats. Awesome stuff from Ecoflow💖
Not sure if Power Kits can do split phase 240v as required here in the US. I asked them last year, they said there was no way to do it. That's really its only flaw.
Outa my budget level. Sure looks Kool...see ya next year at Quartzsite-I'll be under a rock...
Did the retail version solve the problem of only being able to draw 6400 watts for 5 minutes instead of the claimed 7200w inverter? Was there a new firmware version for the retail version? Thank you for the work you do putting these videos together. I'm new to this and am learning over time.
Yes
I saw in the video that you are in Arizona. Can the smart home panel be mounted outside? I still think that I would keep the power supplies inside because of the heat but given that my circuit breaker panel is outside, I would probably have to mount the smart home panel outside too.
It is not IP rated for outdoors so it would have to be installed in a dry location.
how does the ultra work with net metering?
It's not a grid tie system.
Love your reviews!
I have a 4.4 kW solar system with microinverters, can i feed AC from solar into the Smart Home Panel 2?
Jesus! How did you stack those 2 heavy units on top of each other? Cant imagine how hard that was.
It takes two...
Hi Dr. Hobo great videos! As the smart home panel only takes 12 breakers could I add another smart home panel to connect my whole house?
You can do what I did and use one of the output circuits from the smart home panel to feed another entire breaker box. I think the per circuit limit is 60A so you can't exceed that.
@@HOBOTECH thank you for your reply!
Very informative! Curious to see how this would work with a bidirectional charging setup with an electric car (this unit plus a Decebel R16 or Quasar 2 bidirectional charger).
Can the DPU interface with the Ecoflow Power Kit designed for RVs?
Yep
@@HOBOTECH Would you be doing a video on this? This would be awesome and solve some big problems. Thank you
I do have a question, at 10:55 of your video you are showing your Smart Home Panel 2 install, it appears that you are using in breaker spot 2 a tandem or split breaker. is that true? That would allow you to almost double your circuit counts. However you would not have individual control on each circuit on port 2 so if you turn off circuit 2 electronically both circuits on circuit 2 would shut off. Also, what is the max Amp on the Smart Home Panel 2 would it support 200amp as a main panel ion a home?
Yes, I'm using a split breaker but it's only hooked to one circuit. It's what I had available. The panel is limited to 100A on the input.
$.74 a kilowatt Mexico near Cancun, blackouts and hurricanes very well worth it
COULD i RUN A GAS POWERED GENERATOR TO MAKE THE POWER METER RUN BACKWARDS ??? THIS WOULD SAVE ME MONEY HOPEFULLY.
Is charging speed from “grid” any different if you have 2 DPU’s and the SHP2?
I know you covered charging the DPU via 120v & 240v in the 1st video, but the biggest drawback for me is only being able to charge my DPU (1 inverter, 1 battery) at 1800w using 120v while outputting 240v via inverter. I know you can charge at 3000w via 240v, but it turns the output circuits off.
If I could charge faster from “grid” while still keeping my 240v output it would be very helpful.
Yes, the integration kit allows the home panel to charge the DPU with 120v grid/gen while still providing 240v output. The home panel disables the DPU outlets, so you can only pull AC from the home panel. I was able to charge both DPUs at 3600w each simultaneously.
Ah, that was my question too, can it charge a Tesla at 240V while the ecoflow recharges from solar and/or grid?
Yep, and will demo EV charging in a future update.
Which Brand and Model do you recommend for running a house that was sized for a 30Kw Natural Gas Generator?
we are locate West Virginia.
Please advise.
This one.
I'm here in Tucson and I have the Eco Flow Delta Pro Ultra with three batteries (two being shipped) I also have the A510A 50-amp transfer switch and 11 400-watt bi-facial panels coming soon. I want to power our 3-ton heat pump split central system. The problem is that the transfer switch panel did not come with a cord to connect from the panel to the DPU. What do I need to hook this up?
I love the Ecoflow products and have 2 Delta pros and a solar panel myself, but I have significant concerns about what happens to that Ecoflow app if the US and China start shooting at each other. Of course there will be a whole lot of other worse things to contend with in that case.
I am seeing users on reddit having problems with the SHP 2 reliability and service. relay failures and error messages that shut down the panel with long delays in getting service. Is there a way to setup these smart panels but still be able to use the original subpanel without any delays?
I had issues with mine early on (being a prototype) but firmware has made it very stable. You can do what I did, and just run one SHP2 breaker to power your original box. If you have a failure of some kind, you can physically switch it back easy.
Because of THIS GREAT video I was able to educate my idiot electricians Ecoflow sent to me to install my smart panel 2. Yup, the Ecoflow certified electricians they sent to my house said they’ve never installed internet to the prior panels and all there prior installs the customer just wanted it without a cat6 cable. I called BS because you can’t just install the panel and leave without going through the app to program it. WHAT ARE YOU SENDING ME ECOFLOW!!!! They are still installing and have been here all day. I showed them this video and asked them WTH are you doing? Yes, I’m out here in Commifornia and these guys are stupid!
They probably didn't want to run that line. It's extra work and they probably don't get paid. Yes, a wired connection is the best for Internet connectivity. They may be able to use a amplifier hooked to a 120v receptacle. It has a cat 5 connection. I have only used this method with enphase systems. I am a Electrician and have installed solar systems. I have computer, cell phone and Computer software experience. I plan to provide this type of grid less system that involves less if the power company and service company to empower My customers. Good luck everyone.
Can you do zendure Superbase V with Home Panel
No
I noticed that the app will let you specify the generator input as 110v. Do you know how to wire it to the panel in that situation? Just use L1 (and the panel does the magic to power both sides) or run L1 to both sides? I hope that makes sense as I am really curious. Thanks!
That will be the next video on this product.
If you were to put in one of those EMP Shields, would you put it in the SP2, or the original breaker box?
Neither, because they don't block EMPs so save your money. A basic lighting surge protector from Home Depot does the same thing a lot cheaper. It goes into your main breaker box.
Why does the smart home panel have a generator / grid interlock? When grid power goes out the panel gets power from the batteries. When on batterie backup, how does the panel not backfeed the grid connection? If there is a way to cut off the backfeed, why isn't that same mechanism used to cut the grid backfeed when a generator is feeding the panel?
It's for bad weather days when solar won't work. You hook a 120v/240v generator (or other power source) to charge the batteries. It doesn't back feed because the panel has a built in auto transfer switch.
Now you need a street battery for each of those generators and you'll be set even though they could take up the 5 batteries.That you need at least 3 and that's also so I could use the full output of the generators.Else you're not quite using the full output of the generators.
With the smart home panel, do I also need their transfer box @ $199?
No
@HOBOTECH ever thought about making a current video showing all your power stations and solar setup? I would love to see your setup.
I just did a video about the power stations I use when camping. I'll do a solar update when I review the Power Kits.
@HOBOTECH yes I watched it. I'm sure you have an insane inventory beyond your van life camping setup though.
"hold my beer" my shed has 12kw/h batteries and 14kw inverters.
Questions that someone can hopefully answer.
So if I have solar panels on my roof. Do they go straight into this Unit, or am I plugging this into an outlet when the solar panels on the roof are active and I’m actually just pulling from an outlet that is pulling from solar?
Does this do the entire, 20 millisecond transfer time? In a blackout does this instantly run everything without me moving from the couch?
Can this power everything. We have a large house but don’t use everything all at once. But we have 3 floors, 3 AC units. And about 4600 square feet. So, can I make the smart panel transfer everything from the main panel and just, time of use this thing?
Because I was sold on the power wall. Then I waited for the Anker x1. (Which they cared more about form than function. And they aren’t releasing prices)
But this could be great if I’m pulling from the panels. (And I can add a second panel set up on top of the shed) to pull power. Then switch everything to this and say, 18kwh or backup batteries after 6pm. Coast on the dpu to power our house until the sun is shining again. And then never deal with Time of use charges.
So if anyone sees the questions there and knows the answers let me know. Thanks for everyone help.
Most of your questions can be answered by watching the original Delta Pro Ultra review linked in the description. Yes, it can run your home, including 3-4 ton HVACs. Yes, it's all automatic.
Great info, as always! Would you recommend this system over the powerwall 3 system? I'm currently in the market, and Costco has a bundle deal of $6999 for 12kWh or $8999 for 18kWh. $1k additional with smart home panel 2 (no info on expansion battery packs as I would like 24 or 30kWhs minimum to have peace of mind come winter storm season etc) I have a virtual consultation with Tesla but it's good to know that I can get one with ecoflow as well in Texas. Thanks for the videos and TIA for your input! 🤓
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@hobotech, you state “The Smart Home Panel 2 is UL1741 certified”. How can I verify this. Love your videos dude! Thanks
Of course, when I get one of those or 2 of those, I'll get the hub. I get the home panel and I hope each. I'll actually hook it up to the hub. Just to hook it up to the home panel. Just so I actually have a 50 amp plugin for a 50 amp plugin. Not a 30 amp 2 off 50AMP to make A50AM. Then plug it into a 50 amp plug in home panel that it works.
Also, your installer who ran your conduit and forgot the cat6, did you a favor, never share the same electrical conduit with a data cable. You run the chance of electromagnetic interference jumping on to your data lines. Ask me how I know! If you do run it parallel, right against it you have to use shielded cat five or six cable.
Where did you find half a people?
working part time
Thank you for this video. I really like the "Power Insight"? (Android Tablet) -- I am confused about the grid requirement. Are you saying it won't work complete off-grid without an external generator for the sine wave signal?
It needs some kind of "grid" to power the panel, either 120v or preferably 240v.
@@HOBOTECH Thanks.
So couldn't you do a work around by adding a 30 amp plug to your main panel and use a delta pro or something like that to provide the 120v. Then you are still off grid and able to power the panel.
Using a generator you still need to have propane or fuel which means you are still relying on outside sources which in a disaster situation is bad
@@davidbailey3289 You would need some sort of Transfer Switch for sure, because if you hook directly to the main panel you would definitely backfeed into the utility, and potentially cause a disaster. Almost certainly it would be out of phase as well.
Sir you did a good job but I know there's always a but. I worked in the IT field at college for 27yrs. You don't wanna run your cat5/6 network cable inside the same conduit with your power cables. Still though awesome video I wish I had your knowledge.
Just got myself a dpu with your code on prime day. Question is there is some way to better monitor the solar input. I’m used to see volts amps and watts. I am only seeing watts. ???
I really like this and want it. It's not exactly in my priorities right now. However Feb. 2026 will be my last payment on my home grid tied solar. I would like to supplement that with a moderate size off grid set up like 5-7 kW of solar panels and I would need a lot of battery to go along with it.
Thank you...
I think you make great video's... Thank you.
I do have a question, I am planning on building on a new property, 1st an out building with a home in the future. The electrical supply is approx. 2000 ft away. It will cost $50,000 to $100,000 to bring in a supply. I really like this Ecoflow Ultra thinking 3 inverters with 2-3 batteries per inverter each to start. We plan on using 15kw of solar and will have a small dual fuel generator, and some small wind to help out. My question is, if you were building this project would you use the EcoFlow ultra for total off grid or do you have a better solution. I would really appreciate your input.
This is the easy no brainer solution with a warranty. If you want to build your own from scratch there are many options. None are smart like this product. Depends on what you want.
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Geeze Tom, I figured were smart enough to not use Plumbing fittings for electrical work..
AND is that Ethernet Cable 600 Volt rated ?
First, I didn't do the install. Second, it's legal to use Sched 80 PVC for indoor conduit. We got what was available at our local store. Of course it's shielded Ethernet.
Hi I’m building a 2024 Sprinter 144. My electric setup requires 4 100AH batteries, can you recommend a brand to me. I would like to support your channel as I have followed you for years.
Thank you
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So what you do when you don't have a power company, you have to have some sort of power going to or is that just gonna be my power which that would be my power line line? Which would be the Delta pro ultra. And backup power while. I don't know what that would be because I don't got main line called. Electric company, so how does that work for that?Send send the equal Delta pro ultra.
Would be my power Company.
You know its an american channel when it starts with a 1 min disclaimer
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Lawyers ruin everything.
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@@KXKKX takes one to know one i guess 😄
To be fair, if Hobotech has European or UK viewers, some of them might chime in and ask what-about questions, a small percentage might complain about how stupid our system is,etc…. If seen that on other channels. And as you say, there is also the need for the Prof to do some CYA.
Why do you have 2 DPUs? Why not just add additional batteries?
For double the inverter wattage, double the solar charging rate, and double redundancy. I'm planning EV charging and it's also connected to my home now. Need that 14.4kw inverter.
Hello Pr. Hobo
EFDPUHOB08 code doesn’t work. Can you share updated/working code? Reporting on March 31 2024.
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It absolutely works. I just tried it myself.
EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra
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i love these solar videos
too bad i dont own my own house so i can add panels lol
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An eye, leg, arm , lung, and half of ur life savings for something that it's just optional !.... many choices..
All that for only $4999? That's a bargain!
First, if that matters
Been waiting for the ridiculous prices to come down. Im guessing the breaker box is a massive pain in the #%€ to install considering that every video skips over the wiring part. But with all the complaints Im hearing about Echo Flo I’ll probably pull the trigger on the Anchor 3800 if they ad pass through charging.
The good old days of cheap easy money are gone. Welcome to inflation and high taxation. Wiring is easy. It's 4 wires + network cable. It's running the cable that's a pain.
@@HOBOTECH why didn’t they simply pre wire it like a Reliance? Which is what I will most likely use.
It is pre-wired... You add your own breakers and you're done.