Power Your Home! Ecoflow Smart Home Panel 2: Complete Backup System Install & Review
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- The Professor installs two 7200w Delta Pro Ultra power stations with the Smart Home Panel 2 complete LiFePO4 battery home backup system.
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00:00 Introduction
05:50 Breakers & Wiring
08:47 Installation
12:30 Setbacks
14:31 Costs
16:39 Delta Pro Ultras
18:41 App / Power Insight
23:23 ROI
24:39 Performance
26:11 Wise Investment?
27:35 For Average Homes?
29:14 How to Buy
30:11 Outro
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For TX & CA homeowners: check out the latest ‘Hassle-Free bundle’- including a DELTA Pro Ultra, a Smart Home Panel 2, plus installation service, all for just $8,499.
for all US homeowners: The Smart Home Panel 2 Installation Consulting Service ensures a worry-free setup by tracking orders, managing fittings, and answering technical queries. (claim a $500 refund with customer service)
*Don't forget the 30% federal tax credit for hooking the Ecoflow into your home!*
Hi there
Tried to pick "EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Whole-Home Backup Power" (Inverter + battery). System gives "EFDPUHOBO8 discount code isn’t valid for the items in your cart". Is $800 discount still valid?
13cents per KWH. Thats practically Free!!! Come to California and pay 87cents per KWH. Then 3 rate increases annually happens often. Bring Lots $Money when you move to California. More if you want to Eat Everyday.
No thanks. Already served my 20 year sentence in Cali. When I left, I was paying 19.5 cents. I'm sure it's far worse now. Sounds like this would pay for itself very fast!
@@HOBOTECH San Diego. Summer Peak Rate. 82cents per KHW.
None of my Cali friends and family believed me a decade ago that electricity rates can change. 😂
Because of THIS GREAT video I was able to educate my idiot electricians Ecoflow sent to me to install my smart panel 2. Yup, the Ecoflow certified electricians they sent to my house said they’ve never installed internet to the prior panels and all there prior installs the customer just wanted it without a cat6 cable. I called BS because you can’t just install the panel and leave without going through the app to program it. WHAT ARE YOU SENDING ME ECOFLOW!!!! They are still installing and have been here all day. I showed them this video and asked them WTH are you doing? Yes, I’m out here in Commifornia and these guys are stupid!
Welcome back from the desert. We've been waiting for your return.
I guess you didn't see my video last week either?
No, I didn't. I will look for it and watch it.
The one where you shot your bougie solar panel?
@@davelamontThis one came out just over a week ago. Apparently, no one watched it. th-cam.com/video/P6zGG7OYy9g/w-d-xo.html
Good review. I have a very similar setup. The review reflects my experience for most aspects of the SHP2 but you should do more review on the grid tied functions. Why? The actual orchestration of the SHP2 and attached DPUs is limited and has some challenges when you mix grid and solar. Especially if the goal is to roll back the meter (like the title of the video). One major limitation is the "max charge" for the DPUs. The max charge is shared by all inputs. So when grid tied, and the batteries are allowed to charge, they will quickly charge on grid AC, reach the max charge limit, but then none of your solar energy will benefit the batteries unless you actually consume some of the battery energy. Having the ability to charge to x% (aka set a target for a charging task) or having a different max charge for grid vs solar, would allow for much better orchestration between grid and solar. As the professor you should also measure the "loss" between AC charge and AC discharge on the power IN/OUT port. Just by being connected to the SHP2 the batteries will drain a few percentage points everyday (could be improved by shutting down all but one inverter for example until they are required). Not all DPU inverters are equal, on average I see 15% loss between my charge/discharge. But one of my inverters is an outlier at 38% loss. Please keep the data and reviews flowing.
Congratulations on the 195k I’m glad to see you moving up 😊
This is more impressive than all others on how this is working. Much more detailed information. Thanks 🙏
The design reminds me of a classic Klipsch horn floor standing speaker.
Thank you for the feedback!!!
This is going to be an excellent series. I think a lot of people want to do exactly what you are doing.
Very Cool !! Great install
Hey Doctor Hobo, thanks for doing this video. I look forward to some of your additional and long term testing of this system. I think it's cool you can also use the Smart Home Panel (Ver. 2), with up to 3 older Delta Pros as well. 👍 I like stuff that is backwards compatible with older (Read less expensive) technology.
The Smart panel is $1899 and the quotes I’ve gotten from electricians so far to install it is around $2000. That’s in addition to the inverters, batteries and solar panels. That’s a lot of extra money. Couldn’t you run the two inverters with the 50amp hub, and back feed to your existing circuit box (albeit w/o the fancy features) and call it a day?
Yep but then you have none of the smart features and no grid charging ability. You could install cheaper by doing what I did and install the panel next to your existing vs replace. Also the panel is a lot cheaper in the bundle with my $800 off code.
I asked electricians how much it costs to install a 100A sub panel beside your current panel and you want to move a few circuits to the sub panel from the main. If you tell them it's smart or any of that extra nonsense they assume you have money. You tell them you will provide the subpanel and my quote was $800. And then when he came to install it he charged an extra 100 to put in the conduit for the plug for the battery.
Great intro sfx!
Excellent video Hobo tech!!!I would love a larger unit like this Delta Pro ultra !!!!On a side note....The Pecron E2000 LFP has changed and now has a 30 amp rv plug on the newly released units💪
I'd love to hear how the home panel would work with another inverter system as the source like you mentioned. Great review!💡
I need something just a little bigger. 12 circuits is not enough, but 20 would be nice. I've been eying SPAN but this integration with battery seems better. I was ready to buy SPAN, but now I want to wait a year or two. It seems like we are in the middle of another electric revolution.
You can do what I did and run a 50A out to a sub panel.
Just a FYI, I have 2 Power kits, each connected in parallel to the smart home panel 1 via the power kit infinity cables, NOT available on the Ecoflow website??? Fortunately my Ecoflow dealer had them in stock and works great. basically 7200 watt output @ 230v here in Europe. I can use washer/dryer, water pumps, 2 x 12000btu ac units, some MIG welding, no problem. In the USA/Canada It's gonna be series connection to give the 240v split phase. I highly recommend the Power kits for off grid and RV, Boats. Awesome stuff from Ecoflow💖
Not sure if Power Kits can do split phase 240v as required here in the US. I asked them last year, they said there was no way to do it. That's really its only flaw.
Now you need a street battery for each of those generators and you'll be set even though they could take up the 5 batteries.That you need at least 3 and that's also so I could use the full output of the generators.Else you're not quite using the full output of the generators.
Thank you...
Like the washing machine lid open
You know its an american channel when it starts with a 1 min disclaimer
😂😂
Lawyers ruin everything.
IAALBIANYL
@@KXKKX takes one to know one i guess 😄
To be fair, if Hobotech has European or UK viewers, some of them might chime in and ask what-about questions, a small percentage might complain about how stupid our system is,etc…. If seen that on other channels. And as you say, there is also the need for the Prof to do some CYA.
How do you deal with the code requirement for shutdown of the inverters for a scenario like firefighting? Did you do something with the EPO port?
Which battery is a good add to a system that has 14kw panels? Goal is to charge when over producing then fill the gap when pulling more than producing.
Very informative! Curious to see how this would work with a bidirectional charging setup with an electric car (this unit plus a Decebel R16 or Quasar 2 bidirectional charger).
Jesus! How did you stack those 2 heavy units on top of each other? Cant imagine how hard that was.
It takes two...
Good evening
Professor hobo
I just want to know
The ecoflex ultra pre
If I place it beside a TV will it give off any magnetic field what can affect the television
Is it possable to just run a gas generator, 240v to the DPU for charging on cloudy days. Then run a 240v out from the DPU to a small breaker box for distributing small loads for off grid living? This is just for a single DPU unit.
@HOBOTECH ever thought about making a current video showing all your power stations and solar setup? I would love to see your setup.
I just did a video about the power stations I use when camping. I'll do a solar update when I review the Power Kits.
@HOBOTECH yes I watched it. I'm sure you have an insane inventory beyond your van life camping setup though.
Is that cable rated for conduit?
I love the Ecoflow products and have 2 Delta pros and a solar panel myself, but I have significant concerns about what happens to that Ecoflow app if the US and China start shooting at each other. Of course there will be a whole lot of other worse things to contend with in that case.
Also, your installer who ran your conduit and forgot the cat6, did you a favor, never share the same electrical conduit with a data cable. You run the chance of electromagnetic interference jumping on to your data lines. Ask me how I know! If you do run it parallel, right against it you have to use shielded cat five or six cable.
HoBo, I’m having a 850 SQf Amish cabin built. I really want the option of being off grid. They will install a transfer switch as an upgrade, but I’m thinking I’d rather have them install this home panel 2 instead of the included 200 amp service panel and the transfer switch. I’d like to do the rest of the project myself. Is the smart panel 2 meant to work in this type of installation?
Thank you for this video. I really like the "Power Insight"? (Android Tablet) -- I am confused about the grid requirement. Are you saying it won't work complete off-grid without an external generator for the sine wave signal?
It needs some kind of "grid" to power the panel, either 120v or preferably 240v.
@@HOBOTECH Thanks.
Positive Comment!!!
Of course, when I get one of those or 2 of those, I'll get the hub. I get the home panel and I hope each. I'll actually hook it up to the hub. Just to hook it up to the home panel. Just so I actually have a 50 amp plugin for a 50 amp plugin. Not a 30 amp 2 off 50AMP to make A50AM. Then plug it into a 50 amp plug in home panel that it works.
Nice 👍🏻
Did the retail version solve the problem of only being able to draw 6400 watts for 5 minutes instead of the claimed 7200w inverter? Was there a new firmware version for the retail version? Thank you for the work you do putting these videos together. I'm new to this and am learning over time.
Yes
If you were to put in one of those EMP Shields, would you put it in the SP2, or the original breaker box?
Neither, because they don't block EMPs so save your money. A basic lighting surge protector from Home Depot does the same thing a lot cheaper. It goes into your main breaker box.
I really like this and want it. It's not exactly in my priorities right now. However Feb. 2026 will be my last payment on my home grid tied solar. I would like to supplement that with a moderate size off grid set up like 5-7 kW of solar panels and I would need a lot of battery to go along with it.
I want to run my desktop Computer on a solar generator 24/7 with Solar & A/C plugged in at the same time. I want it to run on solar power but have the A/C power kick in if the battery gets too low. Can this unit (or any unit) do this??
Outa my budget level. Sure looks Kool...see ya next year at Quartzsite-I'll be under a rock...
I noticed that the app will let you specify the generator input as 110v. Do you know how to wire it to the panel in that situation? Just use L1 (and the panel does the magic to power both sides) or run L1 to both sides? I hope that makes sense as I am really curious. Thanks!
That will be the next video on this product.
COULD i RUN A GAS POWERED GENERATOR TO MAKE THE POWER METER RUN BACKWARDS ??? THIS WOULD SAVE ME MONEY HOPEFULLY.
Which Brand and Model do you recommend for running a house that was sized for a 30Kw Natural Gas Generator?
we are locate West Virginia.
Please advise.
This one.
I think you make great video's... Thank you.
I do have a question, I am planning on building on a new property, 1st an out building with a home in the future. The electrical supply is approx. 2000 ft away. It will cost $50,000 to $100,000 to bring in a supply. I really like this Ecoflow Ultra thinking 3 inverters with 2-3 batteries per inverter each to start. We plan on using 15kw of solar and will have a small dual fuel generator, and some small wind to help out. My question is, if you were building this project would you use the EcoFlow ultra for total off grid or do you have a better solution. I would really appreciate your input.
This is the easy no brainer solution with a warranty. If you want to build your own from scratch there are many options. None are smart like this product. Depends on what you want.
I do have a question, at 10:55 of your video you are showing your Smart Home Panel 2 install, it appears that you are using in breaker spot 2 a tandem or split breaker. is that true? That would allow you to almost double your circuit counts. However you would not have individual control on each circuit on port 2 so if you turn off circuit 2 electronically both circuits on circuit 2 would shut off. Also, what is the max Amp on the Smart Home Panel 2 would it support 200amp as a main panel ion a home?
Yes, I'm using a split breaker but it's only hooked to one circuit. It's what I had available. The panel is limited to 100A on the input.
Is charging speed from “grid” any different if you have 2 DPU’s and the SHP2?
I know you covered charging the DPU via 120v & 240v in the 1st video, but the biggest drawback for me is only being able to charge my DPU (1 inverter, 1 battery) at 1800w using 120v while outputting 240v via inverter. I know you can charge at 3000w via 240v, but it turns the output circuits off.
If I could charge faster from “grid” while still keeping my 240v output it would be very helpful.
Yes, the integration kit allows the home panel to charge the DPU with 120v grid/gen while still providing 240v output. The home panel disables the DPU outlets, so you can only pull AC from the home panel. I was able to charge both DPUs at 3600w each simultaneously.
Ah, that was my question too, can it charge a Tesla at 240V while the ecoflow recharges from solar and/or grid?
Yep, and will demo EV charging in a future update.
With 2 DPU's can you run solar to both? Say 11.2 KW of max solar input?
Oh yes. I have 4000w running to each of mine.
8000 watts of solar. Nice
Can the DPU interface with the Ecoflow Power Kit designed for RVs?
Yep
Your thoughts on this vs eg4 with rack mounted batteries?
This system is smart, eg4 is dumb.
@@HOBOTECH thanks, I’ve been subscribed for a long time and used your codes multiple times. It will be really nice to see a detailed comparison between the two systems. To know what the smart option brings to the table, and how much I will overpay for it. Is it worth it? I'm sure lots of people will be interested to know that as well.
Why does the smart home panel have a generator / grid interlock? When grid power goes out the panel gets power from the batteries. When on batterie backup, how does the panel not backfeed the grid connection? If there is a way to cut off the backfeed, why isn't that same mechanism used to cut the grid backfeed when a generator is feeding the panel?
It's for bad weather days when solar won't work. You hook a 120v/240v generator (or other power source) to charge the batteries. It doesn't back feed because the panel has a built in auto transfer switch.
Can you do zendure Superbase V with Home Panel
No
Talk about expense... power goes out without a unit and your freezer full of Organic beef all thaws ... now how. much did it cost them to not be independent. (inflation aside). Taxation should be illegal.
Why do you have 2 DPUs? Why not just add additional batteries?
For double the inverter wattage, double the solar charging rate, and double redundancy. I'm planning EV charging and it's also connected to my home now. Need that 14.4kw inverter.
Questions that someone can hopefully answer.
So if I have solar panels on my roof. Do they go straight into this Unit, or am I plugging this into an outlet when the solar panels on the roof are active and I’m actually just pulling from an outlet that is pulling from solar?
Does this do the entire, 20 millisecond transfer time? In a blackout does this instantly run everything without me moving from the couch?
Can this power everything. We have a large house but don’t use everything all at once. But we have 3 floors, 3 AC units. And about 4600 square feet. So, can I make the smart panel transfer everything from the main panel and just, time of use this thing?
Because I was sold on the power wall. Then I waited for the Anker x1. (Which they cared more about form than function. And they aren’t releasing prices)
But this could be great if I’m pulling from the panels. (And I can add a second panel set up on top of the shed) to pull power. Then switch everything to this and say, 18kwh or backup batteries after 6pm. Coast on the dpu to power our house until the sun is shining again. And then never deal with Time of use charges.
So if anyone sees the questions there and knows the answers let me know. Thanks for everyone help.
Most of your questions can be answered by watching the original Delta Pro Ultra review linked in the description. Yes, it can run your home, including 3-4 ton HVACs. Yes, it's all automatic.
how does the ultra work with net metering?
It's not a grid tie system.
Where did you find half a people?
working part time
Geeze Tom, I figured were smart enough to not use Plumbing fittings for electrical work..
AND is that Ethernet Cable 600 Volt rated ?
First, I didn't do the install. Second, it's legal to use Sched 80 PVC for indoor conduit. We got what was available at our local store. Of course it's shielded Ethernet.
Hi I’m building a 2024 Sprinter 144. My electric setup requires 4 100AH batteries, can you recommend a brand to me. I would like to support your channel as I have followed you for years.
Thank you
Battery Reviews: th-cam.com/play/PLHEFQDjiZC_c-hLjlIO79_IhQ_u4f8mPB.html
"hold my beer" my shed has 12kw/h batteries and 14kw inverters.
First, if that matters
So what you do when you don't have a power company, you have to have some sort of power going to or is that just gonna be my power which that would be my power line line? Which would be the Delta pro ultra. And backup power while. I don't know what that would be because I don't got main line called. Electric company, so how does that work for that?Send send the equal Delta pro ultra.
Would be my power Company.
i love these solar videos
too bad i dont own my own house so i can add panels lol
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Spaggetti overload...
Hello Pr. Hobo
EFDPUHOB08 code doesn’t work. Can you share updated/working code? Reporting on March 31 2024.
Thank you
It absolutely works. I just tried it myself.
EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra
EFDPUHOBO8 (-$800.00)
An eye, leg, arm , lung, and half of ur life savings for something that it's just optional !.... many choices..
All that for only $4999? That's a bargain!
NNNNICE
Federal solar tax credits you can claim only once for the year you install a solar system. However, if the credit is more than the taxes you owe, it will roll over to the next tax year for up to five years. Under the Inflation Reduction Act, passed in August 2022, the federal solar tax credit is worth 30% of your total system cost. You can not claim this every year.
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Phuc tax
Been a while. GTSY!
Didn't see my video last week?
@@HOBOTECHnegative Captain. I will have to pay better attention. The bell is clicked 👍🏼
@@MAKEITSTOP777 Unsub and Resub. About a third of my subscribers never get notified.
Second!! Yea, who cares
Been waiting for the ridiculous prices to come down. Im guessing the breaker box is a massive pain in the #%€ to install considering that every video skips over the wiring part. But with all the complaints Im hearing about Echo Flo I’ll probably pull the trigger on the Anchor 3800 if they ad pass through charging.
The good old days of cheap easy money are gone. Welcome to inflation and high taxation. Wiring is easy. It's 4 wires + network cable. It's running the cable that's a pain.
@@HOBOTECH why didn’t they simply pre wire it like a Reliance? Which is what I will most likely use.
It is pre-wired... You add your own breakers and you're done.
As a Master Electrician, this install is 110% cringe
Far out
You can't roll back your meter with this inverter. It's NOT a grid tie inverter.
Over Priced! Better to buy an EG4 6000XP!
I agree.
While if I was building a home I'd be very tempted by EG equipment (especially that mini-split that plugs directly into solar panels!), but the Ecoflow also has sockets on the front ready to go, you can plug the fridge right into it if you need to.
But once you're getting all involved with direct connections to your home circuits, I suppose it gets equally as involved either way.
@michaelmartin9022 I like it, but it is expensive compared to a self build
ok.....
$16,000.00 dollars divided by 365 ( days per year ) = 43.835616 divided by $4.00 ( a day electrical
charge ) = 10.95890 years to pay for the Ecoflow 7200 Delta Pro. and Panel .
' OUTDATED BEFORE EVEN HAFT PAID FOR " OK , BUT NO THANKS.
The system is $6699 after my discount and about $4800 after tax credits.
Zippa de doo dah
Dibbidy dup
How long til the value of your 16k car
Goes back up?