Gaming on Mac in 2024
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Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
1:02 Can Macs game?
2:11 The Game Porting Toolkit
3:08 The pitch to switch
4:08 Opening the door
5:23 Potential
6:32 Even more potential
7:45 iPhone gaming?
8:45 Snapdragon hype
9:50 Windows gaming is still powerful
10:45 What do you think? - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Macs can game now, and Windows can have a sleep mode.
Wow, what a time to live in.
still can't believe both even happened! the devs finally woke up from their breakfast nap!
hasn't windows had sleep mode for a long time?
@@FifeFX Windows has had this function for years but simply does not work and turns off the computer instead of suspending it
Edit: and it breaks the system too
@@mrCastrinho_ Ohhh that makes more sense, I understand my confusion now. ty!
@@mrCastrinho_ mac also used to have the break system problem, only the past year, since Apple decided to break my last Mac, mid exam at University btw. That they decided to fix it, & now it works, & now i can sleep in the middle of project and it still be there after a nap etc,
I have a Windows PC I built for gaming but I have a M1 MacBook air for school which is perfect for what I need. I think sticking with Windows for gaming for now is the best bet, especially since you don't have to worry about emulation or abstraction layers.
This is definitely the play if you have the money. Gaming PC with a macbook air for travel and school use. The 13 inch macbook is only beat by a few chromebooks in terms of portability
Yep macbook air is imo great now with m1/m2 pricing being somewhat cheaper. But I could never get used to macOS, so ill wait for a time when I need a new basic laptop :) Arm windows will be good in the future im sure.
@@Djuntas I was able to get mine for $600 at a back to school sale from Best Buy (more than likely it was old stock they were trying to get rid of). The biggest selling point for me was the battery life, previously I had an Asus ZenBook 14 which the battery life was decent but by the end of my classes it was about dead. My MacBook lasts just about all day so pretty happy with that haha. I'm curious to see how well the battery life will be for Arm Windows computers!
I've gamed on my Mac for well over a year now, with things like CrossOver and more and more games coming to Mac, it is definitely becoming a good option.
I agree with you.your one of the only one with some sense who actually games on a Mac and has tried it instead of whipping shit out of your ass like others do lol.your comment should have more likes.
I have a windows PC and use my MacBook for on the go. Although on steam a lot of games still aren’t supported it’s getting a lot better. Windows right now tho still is better just for the amount of games it can run tho
I’m just waiting for the Apple TV to get a M2/M3 chip. A small gaming box should be the goal
I’d bet it is a goal for them. From the steps they’ve been taking
Nothing good to play on it though
@@Owencr905 I agree to certain extent mainly the AAA stuff is cheaper on other platforms. I think maybe when their able to get games day in date with other platforms or get some better exclusives
I've tried making gaming work on my M1 MacBook Air, while not a gaming beast, for the casual moments, that is where I think Mac gaming shines. I wouldn't go into Mac gaming thinking you can get full desktop RTX 4090 quality. I would also suggest getting a laptop or MacBook with a fan because after an hour or two, this computer gets warm to hot depending on the game. The best part about Mac gaming is having so much battery, that after a 1-hour session, you can still watch videos, browse the web, and still have battery leftover.
Edit: I since test the game porting kit. And they were right, I couldn't get it to run on my M1 MBA. However Steam(and the Mac App Store) has games you can play.
Tomb Raider games work fine, might run hot but can be played.
Inside runs incredibly well and at a locked 60fps.
Borderlands 2 runs incredibly well, you may have audio switching issues with headphones and the mute button doesn't always mute.
BTD 6 runs very well. No issues so far.
Minecraft Java runs decently. May get hot after an hour and good luck with mods.
And that's the games I was able to download and play with my storage, probably ~40gigs of games and my system has very little issue with these.
It's amazing how many people in the comments are getting worked up over there mere mention of this.
Right! Move over political & economic issues, the PC “master race” has to suppress the Mac Cultists! 😂
Macs can game, they just do not have the library. Even if Apple did receive AAA titles, some of us have scores of older games which run only on Windows. I hope Apple makes Bootcamp available again someday.
I find Mac haters way more annoying and entitled than the apple fanboys tbh I can’t believe they get so angry at the mention of anything Apple
It’s the PC master race people. They think they’re “different” but in all reality they are just bandwagon fanboys who follow the herd just like some Apple sheep. I’m mostly excited for Apple gaming because of the eco system. Everything I already own will just work. AirPods will switch between iPhone Mac, and iPad. Save states across devices, and the ability to only buy a game once and it work on all devices. Thats the true power here that I don’t think anyone is thinking about.
@@spiderman4804 these people don’t seem to realize that x86’s days are numbered. Nvidia is going all in on AI. Small form factor ARM based machines are in everyone’s future whether they use Mac or Windows.
@@yomamasushi9776I agree, people who hate things just for the sake of hating them are more annoying than fanboys most of the time. At least with fanboys, they are genuinely positive about what they are talking about, even if they are misinformed. People just being negative constantly are just flat out annoying lol
As a smooth brain person myself. Switching to Linux has not been hard
If you want new release current games, then PC is the way to go. But I’m with Matt on the idea of a single device that can do ALL the things I would want video editing, graphic design, web browsing, productivity, and some gaming then an M1 MacBook Air is fantastic. I bought one for my wife when they first came out and it’s been my favorite laptop we’ve ever owned. With emulation we have decades of fantastic games to play and the only current game we really play is Demeo with cross play to my iPad Pro and our Quest VR headsets. The M1 MacBook Air and a Nintendo Switch has way more than enough gaming for my family of casual social gamers.
New games work just fine
I played Tomb Raider (2014) on my M1 MacBook Air and the performance was surprisingly good. But the keyboard gets insanely hot AND I will never recommend Apple computers simply for the fact that storage is NON UPGRADEABLE. What snapdragon with the Arm based laptops having expandable storage on the boards just proves yet again Apple is forcing stupid BS down people's throats and making them spend 3 to 4x the price for normal amounts of storage capacity
They worked hard to make that Tomb Raider Trilogy work well on Mac
External nvme ssd’s work well for games if you have a mac
Abd 10yo game... Sure my go-to games are also old af but try to tell your kid that they should play oldies instead of what the kids today are playing.
windows 11 annoys the hell out of me all the Ads and i bought my copy of windows 11. all the bloat the updates reverting my settings. i bought a mac mini and never looked back as a photographer im really loving it. and pixelmator is awesome. i've always had a PlayStation for gaming
gaming on macs aren't targeted to hardcore gamers, they're targeting those casual gamers to try AAA games on the mac and keep them in the apple ecosystem. that's the main purpose.
Bro, I had that same Orange Chair Austin is sitting in from Walmart, and the lever block snapped in half from 3 years of use.
Love the new neon sign in the background! Super crispy!
where can we submit pics for yalls setup review videos?
Guys, you should make a video about PCSX2 on Apple Silicon Chips. Its amazing!!
It would be cool to game on a Mac but storage is an issue. You even mention storage in an Apple Store they bend you over and go in dry.
Mac is not anytime soon going to be the computer for gaming, however, for someone getting a computer primarily for other things who also wants to play some games on their computer, Mac is becoming an increasingly viable option
wonderful xxx thanks guys have a great weekend i am watching all three original turtle films after this, cos its Friday x
It's time for a mac gaming revolution oh yeah !
There’s a program called whiskey that lets to play windows games on Mac and it works great on my 2020 MacBook Pro
My old laptop (i5 7400, 1050 4gb) was getting old and I was really deciding if MAC was and option, I usually play WoW, R6 Siege, Fortnite and so on and those are good on MAC... Still bought i5 14400, 4060ti 8gb, 32gb DDR5 and enjoying like... I have never seen this good graphics.
I alaready have M1 ipad Air and i14 pro so... getting like best of both worlds
Should've gotten a better card if you spend thousands on apple products because they are apple
@@Steve.._. My limit was 1000 euros, so with this and power suply, and m2 nvme ssd and tower it was exactly 997,- eur, which is great for me. i can now play gamepass games on ultra, Cyberpunk on ultra and so on... and still have ipad to draw in procreate and make 4k videos on iphonento cut on ipad... best of all worlds.
@@fizola88 What monitor do you have?
I love my M2 MacBook Air but it gets HOT and throttles when I try playing basic games. I think ultimately they’ll adopt a small form factor of silent cooling, like the frore units, and they’ll be damn near perfect.
They should have used some kind of active cooling in that thing. I use an M2 MacBook Pro and it stays pretty cool emulating a Switch.
In before Linux users can come in saying it's smooth brain friendly
14 minutes after you posted this, someone commented exactly that lol
I can see Apple beefing up the Apple TV and using the Apple Arcade platform to release AAA games and almost turning it into a console. Imagine the fluidity you can have with iCloud and gaming across devices.
I remember Marathon. A friends dad ran the Mac lab at a local college and we'd get a bunch of us together to play on the Quadra's they had. Fun times. Apparently Bungie is remaking it.
As an extraction shooter 😬
@@Collin_J Is that a bad, or good thing? I can see Bungie coming full circle on Mac gaming (if it ever becomes a thing again; ‘Pathways Into the Darkness’ as another example), but I’m unclesr(?)
@@blodyholy_ I'm unsure. When I heard it was coming back I was hoping it would be in the same vein as DOOM. They are at their best IMO when crafting single player and co-op PvE experiences. Extraction shooters seem to be boom or bust depending on how big of a player base the game attracts. I'm nervous that Sony might push them to do weird stuff if the game doesn't take off immediately
I'm with you Matt 😁
I've been hyping up AMD's 8000/9000 series for portable gaming for months now. Such capability in the palm of your hand!
Was really nice to see it listed here. :)
I wonder if gaming on WoA will be possible in the future?
gaming on Mac is like driving with Tractor on fast higway
What about mods. Will a Mac be able to install and run mods?
Ive been a longtime macbook user but recently built a windows gaming pc, i was surprised to see several of my steam games showing up in my m1 macbook steam library. They ran and looked a lot better than I though would be possible on an m1. So while you can game on m1 mac, the selection of games is limited.
got a mac studio and it's my work horse for coding, video, and photography, then also run new games
Again what is with people say Linux isn't for smooth brains. I'm one of the most smooth brains in my friend group and I can easily work my way around Linux.
It's legit not that hard.
same and i am pretty damn smooth brained when it comes to tech stuff
It used to be a struggle. Not as much anymore.
@@antieatingactivist Yup, desktop Linux has gone through some changes for sure. Used to be a chore to even install it, like 15 years ago. Now I have two out of four of my rigs on Linux (Nobara and Pop!OS) and getting rid of Windows on the rest this month.
When will macs be able to run warzone
I was not ready to be flashed by Phoenix in a This is video 😭
Haha thanks to show the website guys❤! :)
10:25 ,i can hear that apple silicon becoming sand again at 105°C trying to play minesweeper.
Not at all
I guess we can pretend that modern x86 chips run cool.
Then why do you need a large heatsink and 70 fans on your PC’s x64 CPU?
Unfortunately for now I'm all for windows gaming. I use a Mac for literally everything else but it's not ready yet
I love Matt's humor he is so funny
As a PC gamer and user I have been wanting to switch to Apple for various reasons for my benefit, I really wish this Apple gap would close for the gaming.. the devices are fully capable these days to game, I hope it happens sooner then later because I am switching over to Apple.
Hello Mac gaming, meet Asus G14
Gaming on Mac using Crossover is great
1:07 *space techno music intensifies*
I've played a couple of native mac games like No Man's Sky, Baldur's Gate 3 and Minecraft on my 16 inch M1 Max MBP and have found performance to be pretty inconsistent a lot of the time. So my impression of Mac gaming, even with native apps, hasn't been great so far
Does Mac have steam support with proton available? If they don't, that's what they need!!
The game porting toolkit/crossover already work though effectively what is proton. In fact the team that works on Proton works on Crossover
CrossOver on Mac has far more games than Prism Snapdragon Windows. And even the 4 year old M1 will play those games better in most cases, because the highest end X “Elite” still has a poor gpu.
I have a ps5 so I don’t care much about running modern titles on MacBook but retro gaming is awesome on Mac, I’ve been enjoying ps2 and ps3 games on emulators and they run flawlessly.
I installed Linux Mint on my living room PC. Can play pretty much any single player game that I want to play. I dual boot my bedroom gaming PC. Only because I play some online games that don't run on Linux. But I definitely prefer the Linux experience. No bloat ware. Easy setup nowadays. No ads.
And it's not Linux's fault online games don't work, it's the devs who don't care about Linux at all cause it's so niche. I tend to avoid any games with Anti-cheats or terrible DRM like Denuvo. Although, they're mostly used by companies I already avoid like the plague.
I have to leave Roblox until Roblox supports Linux 😭
DEFINE FLAWLESSLY MATT.
snapdrg + linux + proton = love
I still think the best option is having a Xbox or PS for gaming and a mac for everything else 🤷🏻♂
I like that I get what I pay for with a Mac. Solid hardware and solid software. Windows is almost a joke at this point, even if you pay the license fees.
I have an M1 macbook air for work (compiling for ios/macosx) and I hate every minute of using it.
BUT, a) indeed it's a beast for the money , b) surprisingly easy to game on it (steam) when needed (vacations, business trips).
Of all the apple products I hate, macbooks get a borderline pass.
I just use geforce now. The power savings from not running a 600W+ PC probably pays for a good portion of the subscription, plus I don't have to pay to cool the room.
It's really nice for sure. Especially in countries where electricity prices are fluctuating wildly. I've had to keep my gaming rig turned off for months cause it was too hot plus electricity prices were dumb.
Or just force companies and governments to optimise themselves by not buying new PC every year? Force nvidia, Intel AMD to make better hardwares that doesn't use much electricity and cools themselves effectively, by not being a loyal customer of them to lick their feet😂
Whoo! Flappy Bird at 8K and 69,420 frames a second!!
MARATHOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!
When you actually wake up and choose violence? You've lost at life. Trust me I know.
With Linux Mint, honestly they should have a quicker install and experience then Windows. Takes usually one 10 minute TH-cam tutorial video online on how to download Linux Mint, make a boot-able flashdrive and open your BIOS menu select and run the flashdrive "which is usually always F1, F12 or Delete on 95% of PCs". after that the installer like Windows takes care of the rest. You can even test drive the OS out before you even install it. Install Steam & Heroic from the built in Mint app store and your gaming & playing native Linux & Windows programs, no command line. TH-cam PLEASE FIX your comment system!
I can tell austin has not tried porting tool kit, its like proton on steamdeck
Personally I’ve always wanted a gaming PC but received a free 2024 Mac and tried to game on it and it’s horrible 😭low demanding / sorta medium it runs good but I’m reselling my mac for $900 and buying pc after trying to game on it💀 why struggle when you can have something with 3-5x more frames and it cost less
If the laptop does not come with a fan do not bother playing games or doing anything remotely demanding on it. Even geometry dash can heat up a windows system. My sister's 8gb ram M2 air starts boiling just running Roblox.
Entry level M1 Air's GPU seems to be about the power of an NVIDIA MX350, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 or Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 GPU. GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile or 1060 mobile absolutely stomps on it.
Shouldn't be too hard finding an equally powerful laptop. 600 bucks for a laptop isn't a whole lot though, can't expect a ton of FPS. CSGO on the M1 at high is like 69 FPS. Borderlands 3, 17FPS. Tomb Raider on medium, 22 FPS. Refurbs or second hand is the way to go for sure. I've been gaming on an old 1L HP desktop with an i5-8600T and Intel 630 on Linux for a few months now :D Nothing too heavy though, tons of Balatro.
600 bucks on a laptop is nothing? Dude Xbox Series X got RTX 4070-like powerful AMD graphics card, 16 gbs of ram, etc..
Anyone else expect Alan from VLDL to come in and choose violence?
God what ever happened to the good old days when you could just download a game and play it.
And this is only a few AAA games good luck getting any indie game, mods, or plugins to work
how do you know this? have you tried?
actually most indie games work because they dont have anti-cheat, and i have played Lethal Company with mods with my friends and it all runs great
Many indie games are already available on Mac and the ones that aren’t work fine though crossover
Most of my indie game library works fine on Mac already.
This is just like a roundabout discussion lol. It just depends on the user's emphasis and how important is gaming to them. M chip silicons prob has the best power to battery efficiency ratio out of all of them. Not power like actual and overall gaming performance but in other areas as well like editing and rendering. On a pure gaming performance standpoint they would still likely be the worst out of all the 4, but that doesn't mean playing games on them would outright suck.
Windows with the Snapdragons prob is like the best of both worlds since Windows work well with the game devs blah blah,
AMD chips will perform better than those 2 on gaming but of course, battery life will take a hit but not THAT bad especially if you opt out for their HS processors,
best of the best performance you could ever churn out would from Intel's HX processors but that ultimately would take ur battery life out of the water in laptops.
We need for Apple to come out with a performance M chip low price Apple Tv Box for gaming!!
This is.....my lunch break....
And?
The moment...THE MOMENT...Gaming is properly streamlined in Linux I'm gone from Windows...GONE...
Why does matt, the largest friend, not simply eat the other five?
As if 'Go fetch " is not a big deal in m1,m2,m3 processors
Yeah.... So just AA games? Not the other games everyone else plays? I am not a fan of Windows 11 but I rather still be able to play my collection of games spanning back into the 90s. The only console I own and use regularly is the Switch. My other computer that I use day to day runs Linux.
apple gotta make their computers more compatible with steam
but you also use a desktop or a laptop and put Linux on it and have far better gaming support
I want a M4 AppleTV that kicks PS and XBox
Linux having 1 click toggle for WINE in Steam: "NOooooooooo that's too hard"
Mac requiring you to use a terminal to install a custom fork of WINE with a separate GUI needing to be installed for it to work: "It's so easy anyone can do it!"
Linux might break / not work when you toggle on / off.
@@WololoWololo2 Mac is even less likely to work, every fork of WINE on Mac is incompatible with EAC and Battleye which some games use AS A LAUNCH DEPENDENCY
If Steam made SteamOS available on everything, we wouldn't need Windows anymore except for Anti-cheat games...
It’s okay. Windows’ days are numbered for gaming dominance.
As a linux gamer I can say im still very smooth brain.
Also telling people to switch to Mac is like say to them look Microsoft isn't treating you well. How about switching to a new abuser instead 😅.
Linux will set you free ❤
Mac as growing(?) platform for gaming...not according to the Steam hardware survey. Mac OS was sitting ~3% a decade ago. Last I checked, it hovers around 1.4%. The Steam hardware survey is far from perfect, but it does show trends pretty well over longer periods. Since the launch of the Steam Deck a couple years ago, Linux has overtaken Mac and it appears that (as of June 2024) there are about as many Steam Deck users as there are _total_ Mac users on Steam.
It's not just Mac's small market share that is the problem. Apple isn't a company that "plays well with others"...when you "partner" with Apple, it really just means you do things Apple's way. Yes, they announce a handful of AAA games that are coming to Mac, but IMO, their general distain for users is a turn off for smaller/indie devs thinking of adding Mac support. Their propensity for regularly breaking compatibility also doesn't help. I follow a few devs that maintain applications for Mac OS that talk about how challenging it is to _keep_ things working on Mac. I don't hear talk of game-breaking changes nearly as often from devs working on other platforms.
Not every gamer uses Steam. Especially not Mac gamers since they can use Game Porting Toolkit to emulate a game without the dev having made it compatible in Steam
Apple should create a steam deck copy with their chips. That would bring gaming to Apple for real.
Can you play fifa 24
Playing ffxiv all the time on my MacBook Air m1 and don’t really need more. XD
It won't work. AAA titles are usually much more demanding than typical MacBook Air or iPhone configurations. They may advertise it like any mac will run any game, but no. ARM SOCs like M1 or XElite just not graphically powerful enough to run hidpi AAA games. Some game studios even fail to get their product to run on 4090 flawlessly and we are talking about snapdragon and M1? Also, gaming is usually a dedication. Meaning, people invest in their gaming setups and would like to get as much as possible. Nobody tries to game on something in a format of macbook air, no matter if it is a mac or windows laptop, except maybe from very small amount of casual lovers. So, 1) mac will not become a top-notch gaming platform, despite receiving some titles. 2) iPhone will remain mostly mobile-casual gaming device, despite receiving some titles. 3) Majority of AAA titles will not officially be released for mac, despite an ability to "port" them unofficially. 4) Looking at what Valve is doing, I rather believe Linux to become more popular for gaming than Mac in a few years (It is already more popular on steam, and it will not be changed)
This is 100% false
Not to mention Apple has no first party title.
Give it 10 years. ARM with integrated GPUs are going to be the mainstream. Nvidia already knows their future isn’t in gaming.
@@redring4083 neither does steam
@@chidorirasenganzCounterstrike, Team Fortress, Half Life, Portal, Left 4 Dead. You clearly know nothing about gaming.
I prefer pc where I can update my own stuff thanks.
i did not just google who invented android ...
I used to work for Microsoft before I retired. I know ‘how the sausage is made’ and refuse to use ANY Microsoft OS. I have used MacOS for years now and will NEVER go back!
Sure gaming is a bit rough but you don’t buy a Mac for games.
GeForce NOW cloud gaming + MacBook Air
Why do you make the same video about gaming on a Mac every year
For those who use windows with a Mac.
If I have to pay to use windows then it's a no go. Parallel is cool but I'm not buying a Mac to PAY MONTHLY to emulate windows.
If it doesent work like bootcamp then there is not much of a point.
And it has not been 3 years since they added AAA games it's been like one😅
A ryzen 7 laptop will get better cpu and GPU performance for less than a $1k MacBook air. You're showing used prices. Hell, you can buy a dell g16 for $1k right now with a 4060 and an i7.
Just get gta 6 godly optimised for Mac, the whole world would buy it
Game Developers will NEVER give up 30 percent of their profits to be on the App Store. Unless Apple cuts them some kind of deal IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
You are aware that Mac apps can be downloaded from the Internet or from Steam or literally from anywhere else, like on Windows, and avoid paying Apple 30%?
Just switch to Linux
The PS5 nearly has as many games as the Mac
Nobody edits videos. People study + game. That’s it. Windows is better for both.
I love MacOS but windows is far more versatile for many different things
Apple is paying devs to port to apple. Will devs keep porting after they stop getting paid?
Hopefully they will.
Once gaming is good on a Mac, I'm getting out of windows. Really tired of the BS that windows keeps putting in their software and I prefer MacOS, but I can't give up my gaming system yet.
I agree. Windows is truly dreadful to use.
Just try Linux for free, Linux is improving and will support online games soon
You can buy an Asus gaming TUF gaming laptop for the same price and that would destroy the Mac..!