Apple's WORST Product 😢
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Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
0:20 The new iPad is SPICY
1:21 It’s REALLY thin
2:35 Pulseway
3:30 It’s the best iPad ever
4:20 Break it down
5:19 iPadOS is holding us back
6:16 Hot (dog) take
7:16 Who needs this much power?
8:00 Apple’s Crazy Idea
9:05 iPad is the new Macbook
9:55 Get RID of the Macbook Air?
11:03 What iPadOS is missing
12:09 Worth the cost, but still too expensive
13:05 Waiting for updates
14:09 What do you think? - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Apple wants you to buy a MacBook and a iPad, that's why the iPad will never get Macos
This. And Apple started with MacBooks, it’s in their DNA. I feel it would go against what their vision is for tech.
There's the touchscreen too that's a difference that if apple added to macbook, why would i need ipad?
not at all, pls understand for the average consumer an iPad is more than enough computer for them
I have a MacBook Air M1 2020, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone Xr, iPad 10th Gen with Magic Keyboard and USB-C Apple Pencil and an Apple Watch Ultra and AirTags. I find myself only conflicted with the MacBook and the iPad 10th Gen at times. I’ll be on my MacBook Air and realize that I am not doing any work flow on here so then I’ll switch over to the iPad to watch TH-cam and all my streaming apps, which then enables me to walk around the house, go poop, make food or lay in any position in the bed comfortably VS the thought of dropping my MacBook Air or damaging it because walking around and constantly moving it around isn’t ideal because of its fixed shape/size. So they all do have fair use cases and they hold differentiation wide enough in a net that you can definitely find use cases that just don’t fit the other.
Feels smarter still to get a macbook and then the 10th ipad for the price of a pro.
I did this except I got a Mac mini and a 9th gen iPad for less than price of a MacBook Air. I got a whole iPad for less than that stupid $300 keyboard.
You must be buying a second hand MacBooks😂
@@la3692 no. You can get some good ones either refurbished or on sale. For instance, an m1 macbook air for 699 (brand new) and a 10th gen ipad 349 would make it be 1049 only 50 dollars more than an 11 inch m4 ipad and that's brand new imagine the cost savings getting a refurbished macbook or ipad.
@@la3692 No. It's pretty easy to do. Brand new an M1 Macbook Air costs 699. The 10th Gen Ipad costs 349 Together b4 tax thats 1049$. The cheapest M4 Ipad pro costs 999 b4 tax with no accessories. Consider the option of doing refurbished macbook or Ipads and the value continues to destroy these new Ipads.
Yeah i have the 9th gen iPad and my 2015 MacBook, both i got for under $400, and both still work extremely well in 2024
An iPad will never be a laptop replacement to me because I still don't have the freedom to download whatever I want, that's illegal to Apple.
The power to do what you could do on the MacBook without being able to do what you can do on a macbook.
Acting like the Microsoft Surface hasn't existed for 10 generations as a tablet with a desktop OS that doubles as a laptop.
exactly.
It runs Windows which is trash lol
Gen 2 was awesome. Everything since then has been expensive trash. 🚮
I had the gen 2 surface in 2012 for school. When I switched to the basic ipad in 2018 because my surface died. The difference was crazy. Less crashes, not having to worry about viruses 🦠, and not worrying about frequent updates and drivers. Window devices are great the first year and then they can die quickly and not gracefully.
@@Jev55Imagine thinking ios for iPad better than Windows.
I think an "easy" solution would be to allow Mac apps when a keyboard/track pad is connected or when the iPad Pro is docked, like dex with Samsung. So iPadOS for normal daily uses and when you put it into the magic keyboard or connect a display you get more Mac like features.
I feel like Apple is going to hybrid iPad and macOS. At least get very close this year with iOS 18. There is roomers that they are going to make iPadOS a lot better. Like this is the year of AI and iPadOS.
And/Or allow local VMs or tightly integrated remote virtual desktops in that mode. They could work with Parallels to make it seamless like Google did in working with Micrososft to integrate Windows remote desktops into ChromeOS.
The mini is the real iPad. Lol😂
Nope
bringing a 16 inch macbook pro m2 pro to work everyday is awful as its so heavy, but other than that im very happy with it
Lol the sad part is people are going to buy it to watch HD Netflix.
Whats so sad about that lol
@@JS-fm3xgthat's really sad if you think about it
I spent like $2k on my tv to watch TH-cam Netflix etc so 🤷♂️
that's exactly why they are gonna do... rich non sense kids
@@mehshutup3041 I mean...
There are people that also buy a PS5 to watch TH-cam or a whole smart TV just for Netflix. That's even worse.
Apple doesn't want you to use the iPad as a Macbook because then it would cannibalize their sales of the macbook.
So who was the one complaining that the iPad was too thick and heavy
I feel like people are just ignoring the air like I get that the new one is the big shiny new toy but the new air seems like a great inbetween?
Maybe have both tablet/"desktop" mode like samsung tablets?
A Dex like experience would be a godsend for the mini!
Why can’t Apple release a keyboard that has the capability of running macOS when you connected to the iPad but the iPad alone cannot run macOS?
My whole thing is IpadOS is still pretty limited. Yeah it can multitask a little but it not being able to run game pass or steam is a big L for me
You're acting like you can do that on an android tablet or run any games on a mac anyway
4:15 - I hate that I immediately recognise that you guys used Ocelot's meow from MGS3 😂
Ehh getting rid of the MacBook is a pretty bold statement. I get the point but that would be jarring for a majority of people
If the iPad was running macOS, it would probably have half the battery life at best. A fully fledged desktop OS is a lot more heavier compared to the OS that iphones and iPads are running. Plus the laptops has a lot better keyboard and trackpad, vastly superior speakers, cooling and ports. And if course it can be used on a freaking lap :)
I'm like just scratch Ipad os and run Mac os on the thing I'm so tired of hearing it. It wasn't initially designed for that...I bet you would get people complaining my ipad has terrible battery life and I miss the ipad os apps if they did that. That M4 chip is probably downclocked like heck to get it to run in that thin a chassis.
nope... if the MacBook can go for 10 hours (allegedly) the iPad with a macOS can. Dude! this price it's a full machine, but it's not a full machine. it's not 2011 anymore
All I care about for the iPad is being able to play steam on my iPad and then play all the games on my iPad like I could do on a computer. The iPad is powerful enough to run it but if they can’t do that, then I want side loading macOS on my iPad so I can play steam
I always look forward to these two talking tech… solid duo! Great video!
If windows and Intel weren’t so horribly bad, Apple would not exist.
The Ipad was promoted as a replacement to the MacBook at one point by Apple. but still is holding back it, because they love making more money. Apple being Apple
My daily use devices are an iPhone 11, Pixel 6a, and an old 7th gen base model iPad with a Bluetooth keyboard. I don’t do anything that would require more power. I like that iOS and iPadOS are so similar. If they do ever change the OS to be more like the Mac, I would hope they do it on the Pro models and leave the base models like they are.
The 2024 ipad pro m4 should have duel operating system support for ipad os when used as tablet & option to use mac os when attached to the apple magic keyboard
iOS needs free floating windows and a desktop. Stage manager is jank.
And you also forgot that there’s two different types of M4 chips in the iPad pros
I use my ipad pro for everything I do… I connect to code server, like vscode on my dev box… It’s pretty great. Its like a laptop with internet cell data.
I would rather have a slightly thicker IPAD pro that's capable of being used as a daily driver for programming, video editing, game design and light gaming. I feel like it's totally possible at this point, ignoring the fact that APPLE would probably want to charge me over $1k for an appropriate amount of storage for these tasks.
I don't care about feel. I want what works for me. Losoing or adding an oz to 2 means nothing to me. Making something super thin does nothing for me, but there is a point where it could get too thin for me.
I have to disagree. Keep the Macbooks. Nothing compares to a full fledged computer.
I've never disagreed with Matt till this episode
Looks like you guys missed the memo as well - the iPad is a complimentary device, and not designed as a replacement for a MacBook and never will be. It’s a beautiful piece of hardware however I do wish a larger version came out (like the Samsung version) with the same display however this would mean an even higher price tag. Apple needs to also add this same OLED screen tech to future MacBook pro’s as well (without the touch screen component). The iPad Pro 13” Wifi and 5G 1TB cost me AU$3,500 and that’s excluding data plus AU$550 for the Magic Keyboard. The WiFi only version is AU$350 cheaper but useless if no wifi is available.
I hate the magic keyboard simply cuz I cant fold it backward into a tablet mode. I hate having two large pieces of one device when I wanna use it as a tablet
Just pop it off then? That’s why it is only attached by magnets
If the iPad could run Blender it’d be game over for my laptop
Do you need plugins for your Blender workflow? Apple could make plugins work too like how mods work for Bethesda console games.
I need that end clip on loop for 3min straight please
Can’t you get a high spec iPad Pro with cellular and then use it as a computer with cloud based VM when you need it and use the m4 chip otherwise on other projects and productivity
that front camera looks good. love matt
The 256 gig m4 is only 50 dollars more than the m2 256 gig.
I don’t use my iPads for anything productive. I just really like the.120 hz screen, the promotion, the OLED, and ease of use/
loving the shirt! shout out to Rochester NY
Matt's point is that if Apple focused on the iPad as the do everything PC, it would be better. Be brave and discontinue all the Macbooks, and make the iPad good enough so that the old customers want the iPad instead. If the Macbook users are unhappy with the new iPad, then improve the iPad.
This is an incredibly bad idea, so many businesses use the macbooks for developers or for graphic design etc that the iPad will never be a good enough replacement for them and that is a very large portion of their sales. As an example, my company has around 24k employees and at least 40% of them are using macbooks.
@@jordyboy62 "it will never be better" huh, what kind of argument is that, he's saying MAKE IT BETTER
@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh I never said better, I said it will never be a good enough replacement. Ultra portability is just not what everyone and every business needs. Ipads are completely the wrong tool for a lot of these businesses even with the software changes he's proposing. They want laptops not tablets.
@@jordyboy62 I agree with this. In particular, a lot of Austin's team and tech youtubers love small things or forget the importance of value. I mean in the video Matt stated that what he cares about the most is feel of a product over anything, whiich the average consumer tends to care most about is value/price.
Just give us Final Cut and Logic Pro with all the plugins available on the Mac. Professionals use custom/3rd party plugins everyday.
They could have a OS that supports a proper microsoft office . As a student i am disappointed ! I can not even use it to make pivotal graph in word or excel! What is the point of M2 or M4 if i can not have a proper software installed
Austin, just use a mac. The iPad doesn’t have to act like a mac.
Believe it or not there’s tonnes of people out there who wake up and get work done with the iPad as is. 50-90% of their work in a way that the iPad can’t do or wont do effectively. People who draw, paint and work on organic models to a point that actually chokes the iPad frequently. It’s not perfect but those people appreciate the iPad for what it is, an iPad.
Wow, I like that view from the iPad. I never knew there was a payphone on the this is set.
Yes using a MBP feels like going back in time compared to using an iPad with MKB. Really wish they’d make it slightly more usable for more scenarios
I have a MacBook Air M1 2020, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone Xr, iPad 10th Gen with Magic Keyboard and USB-C Apple Pencil and an Apple Watch Ultra and AirTags. I find myself only conflicted with the MacBook and the iPad 10th Gen at times. I’ll be on my MacBook Air and realize that I am not doing any work flow on here so then I’ll switch over to the iPad to watch TH-cam and all my streaming apps, which then enables me to walk around the house, go poop, make food or lay in any position in the bed comfortably VS the thought of dropping my MacBook Air or damaging it because walking around and constantly moving it around isn’t ideal because of its fixed shape/size. So they all do have fair use cases and they hold differentiation wide enough in a net that you can definitely find use cases that just don’t fit the other.
Matt has too many iPads 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
These guys don't get the iPad and what it is. And yes, the iPad Pro M4 is 100% worth it for the people who will actually use it for what it's made for. And for people who want the best display in the world. Which would be me.
Surface = 10+ years of not bending, succumbing to pressure
iPad = bends like your mother
I ended up selling my M2 iPad Pro for an M1 Pro MacBook Pro after this event. Haha, although I like this new M4 iPad Pro, I have a strong feeling Apple will add the tandem OLED, Nano Texture and thin out the next line of MacBooks that I'll upgrade to. My new iPad will be both a Mini model and either the iPad Pro or iPad Air to use recreationally. Solid video and takes.
I feel like my M1 IPad pro and M1 MacBook Air do their jobs just fine. I don't see a need to upgrade unless something "game changing" is added.
@@allste626 I can understand that. I’m a creator so I need the performance. The M4 would’ve been an improvement, but not what I have been ultimately looking for.
@@Micah-Woods That's fair. I do 2d game development and mostly use IPAD for making concept art and sprite sheets and the MacBook mostly for audio design and programming (I make game plug-ins for a popular game engine that run off of JavaScript and also work with other popular JavaScript based game engines). I take everything done on those and ultimately finish my projects on my home PC. It's kind of a messy workflow but it works for me and the Apple products I have, while over pricing for storage, never do me wrong. I think if/when I get into 3d game design and work with game engines like Godot and Unity I will look into some of the newer MacBook pros.
@@allste626 I hear ya! I completely understand the pricing dilemma with storage and apple products 😂
Matt straight up created a new Gravity Falls character
7:53 hahahahahahaha i'm dying XD the ipad it's the monkey
You lost me at get rid of the MacBook BUT very cool tablet
Also thermals anyone?
Ipad os is perfect for what the ipad is. Ur basically asking for a touchscreen macbook at this point. Also the ipad is used for more than photo and video editing.
Apple just need to make a translation program like valve has proton for steam os than we can run mac os apps on ipad os
That’s the thing though. THEY DON’T NEED TO because the iPads are using the same exact hardware and architecture as Macs. Its purely just because they are artificially gatekeeping the iPad so that it doesn’t canibalize the MacBook
@@NightFoxZero I wish they would let it cannibalize the MacBook. I want a daily driver IPAD (don't mind if it's on the thicker side) that's capable of programming, video editing, game design and light gaming. I feel like it's totally possible with very little effort on Apple's part; setting aside the absurd price that Apple would want to charge us for the appropriate amount of storage for the aforementioned tasks.
They are not editing Hollywood movies on those but color houses and studios would forsure choose to buy the upgraded screens for their clients and directors to review footage/dailies
I do hope we at least get the ability for Mac OS Apps to installed/sideloaded on these new iPad's. Especially with the Keyboard attachment, it's a no brainer.
That iPad is too big!?!?! No way! I want a bigger iPad! Like a 14” or 15” iPad!
I think matt knows the point he is trying to make, he is just taking 1000 years to get to that point
Even if I can run pro tools on an iPad, I won't get an iPad. I need the I/O that the MacBook has and I need the portability that it has
iPad is more portable
I agree they need to streamline the devices. Only have MacBook & MacBook Pro, iPad mini, iPad & iPad Pro. Improve the file system in iPadOS & let apps fully run in the background on the Pro models.
The keyboard is cool but they need to make it fold into a tablet mode. It sucks taking off the keyboard whenever I need it to be a tablet
I think laptop innovation peaked at 2021 with the apple arm chips. Laptops are perfect now, the only problem that the apple "a" series chips introduced (if it can be called a problem), is that now they are no longer limited by the size or form factor of the device they're in. Basically it doesn't make any sense to make 5 or 6 different devices with the same hardware to fulfill different use cases. Apple just has to make the ipad a little bit more comfortable to use as a MacBook and just allow mac os apps to run natively. Everybody would want one. It's the perfect "do it all" device. Developers would eventually optimize their UIs to be more touch friendly, and every user would have what they need from this device.
why did u stop making reviews about products in ur main channel?
iPads are my portable Roku devices. I can’t put any of my information onto it like my personal iMessages, photos, notes, safari history. I just can’t. The problem with iPad OS is that there is no switch-user, guest mode, or at least kids mode. The iPads are just portable roku devices to me. My iPads just have Disney+, Netflix, TH-cam tv, TH-cam, etc. I really don’t wanna put my personal information and projects onto any of these iPads cause if someone like a friend or a kid wants to use it, then they will see my personal information. Please Apple 🙏 add multi-user or at least a guest mode onto these damn iPads. Guided access is not enough!
Yo, Matt! You - specifically - were given cheers last night by the lads of WVFRM Podcast, regarding a Tweet you made about AI! I don't use Twitter ("X"?), but wanted to send props. (... Oh, and "Hey, Austin!" Lol.)
The iPad would need to have, at a minimum, these before I could ditch my MacBook. No matter the hardware, without software it's just a blinking box.
Overlapping windowing
Full featured MS Office including Teams
Parallels with the ability to run Windows and Linux
MacOS level of Finder
Full featured Lightroom and Photoshop
Multi monitor support
I'm sure I could think of more, but these are just the first things that come to mind. If the MacBook is the "perfect form factor" why throw it in the garbage?
Who said you need to ditch it? Dumb
Apple, giving me more reasons not to buy their products.
I can email, websurf, game and everything else I need to do ... on my $60 tablet!
Apple opening anything up?
Never gonna happen.
I always wanted an iPad with a MacOS, but Apple will never give us that !
I got the pro. Im not an apple person so its a great addition to my creative workflow.
We just need to get rid of MacBook Airs and have the iPads replaced the MacBook Air and then if someone needs something very powerful then they will buy a MacBook Pro if they don’t need something as powerful buy the iPad Air or the iPad pros could still run macOS
I think the IPad Pro with the keyboard is more of a PC laptop killer than a MacBook
Imagine dropping it in the keyboard case
Still working through the vid, but I would agree that that price is absolutely a huge issue but for me the bigger issue is the OS. The Apple ecosystem is pretty much garbage for any regular use. For artists I know it is highly loved, but most artists I know (working in the gaming industry) just use PCs thanks to the improvements in PC software options plus the better price points and easier customization options. Add in not having to deal with the crap Apple tries to pull all the time.
Plus the artists I do know that still stay with Apple all use full desktop units and the couple I have asked don't feel an iPad has any use for their role.
There are people who will certainly have a use for such a pad, but that comes back to the price. The use cases for it can be better solved by products that cost half the price.
Also, that cam looks absolutely awful. My 100 dollar web cam has better picture quality. Did they forget to remove a plastic cover or something?
The Mac and iPad are the exact same hardware at this point, same architecture same cpu. They can easily make a compatibility layer to add macos support. To make it worse iPhone OS has been based on MacOS sense the very first version. Same filesystem structure, almost the same libraries at times.
I'm so fired up about why they produce hardware like this and provide literally nothing in terms of support. M series ipads have been out for a long time, developers are not supporting it with its restrictions of it having to be touch first. We don't care we just want to do work. I don't want a M4 to browse the web. What a waste of silicon. This is getting close to the old days of apple when they had all these lines of hardware and would not just stick to a few products. We don't need the Macbook when we have the iPad pro
yes, kill the mac, delete all the ports and live with 1 type C port like they did back in 2015. i dare them to put a full sized hdmi port on that iPad with it being 5mm thick.
ppl call it a glorified netflix machine for a reason, putting a Desktop SoC on it is still stupid since its still locked down to hell and 98% of ppl use it to watch movies and play casual games.
nobody out there is editing videos or drawing on it every day and even then, most of them pros would probably just get a walcom tab or a laptop/computer with more power than this tiny tablet for that price and even with all that, it will still fail to do most of what a galaxy tab can do these days with a mobile SoC including having a full on file system with desktop features and entire windows/linux emulation.
iPadOS could solve for a lot of use-cases by allowing light-weight macOS VMs (and Linux!). Short of that, they could offer deeply integrated/optimized remote desktop/app streaming allowing for seemless access to desktop apps running on your Mac located elsewhere (or in the cloud?).
I happen to be in possession of an 8in, it’s in my hand currently.😜
IPad OS is holding the iPad back. But it's intentionally. Apple wants you to buy a Mac as well.
So Matt needs an apple to work with a Google product because the Google products doesn't interface well with the Google product TH-cam
its okay if they put terminal and more simple file system for iPadOS
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No. Just no. Still can't do half the stuff you can do on a MacBook Air
If Apple got rid of the MacBook to focus on a boring ass tablet, I would be switching to Linux on my next laptop purchase. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Basically what they're trying to say : We need MacpadOS
Scrap the base iPad if any and keep the air
Say hi to Tim Apple next time you see him.
Matt telling Austin to work out more is funny asf I'm just saying
How'd Matt homie get first video dibs with the new ipad? 👀 lol. But fs here comes a main channel video and a denki video as well 😅
If Apple wasn't so vehemently against right to repair it would be interesting.
The future of laptops should be Framework laptops.
14:43-14:47 best part of the video!!!
I don't like Tablet with 4 : 3 Screen Ratio. That's Why I always Choose Android Tablet!!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Can some TH-camr edit a video with the IPad Pro and see if the quality compares to a MacBook Pro
You guys clearly aren't power users. As somebody who works remotely uses After Effects (and blender and maya and tvpaint), I need a portable system that supports 64-128gb of ram. even the most pro ipads can't do this, even if Apple let them run the software. Just thought i'd offer my two cents outside of the techtube bubble.
I think Apple is just keeping a balance of how much can they get people to buy vs consolidating products and losing money unfortunately.
I agree with matt. when people see a macbook, they more times than not refer to it as a laptop. it doesnt matter what tablet it is, when people see someone using a tablet, it almost always referred to as an ipad
As a graphic designer no way I'm giving up my laptop for a mini or a studio. That's bananas.
you'd use an ipad and a studio though
@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh Nope.
Why not just use Mac OS 2 generations behind the MacBook lineup on the iPad? Desktop apps would need to be compatible with older versions of Mac OS longer win win for everyone. Plus the app developers can take a break before updating their apps.