EmulationStation Update: Why We Can't Have Nice Things

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  • ES-DE (EmulationStation Desktop Edition) for Android has been delisted from the Amazon Appstore. Let's talk about what happened and how you can still enjoy this frontend on your favorite Android devices.
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    00:00 introduction
    00:47 what happened
    02:58 how to get the app now
    04:22 refunds from Amazon
    05:35 installing the new APK
    07:35 Yuzu and Nintendo
    08:23 summary and conclusion
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  • @ES-DE_Frontend
    @ES-DE_Frontend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +583

    Thanks Russ for this great video and for taking the time to cover this unfortunate event. But like you stated in the video, hopefully this will lead to something better in the long run. And to clarify, I think there is near 0% chance that there will ever be a Google Play release of ES-DE. Patreon is likely the way to go.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      Thanks for the clarification!

    • @jakesmith5278
      @jakesmith5278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A shame indeed. Guess we are coming to Patreon.

    • @snart
      @snart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Thank you for this front end - you are a rock star!

    • @Loknath009
      @Loknath009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I guess this was for the best for everyone, I hope you get enough people to support your amazing work. I’ll be there as soon as my RG556 arrives.

    • @uhu4677
      @uhu4677 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is there any chance, that you will expand ES into something like RetroArch at some point?
      Like RA and ES combined into one application?

  • @19CD91
    @19CD91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +653

    Doesn't amazon sell those 5000 in one game carts that are just roms lol

    • @pieceofschmidtgamer
      @pieceofschmidtgamer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      I literally bought my RG351P that was preloaded with ROMs and BIOS files on Amazon, lol...

    • @19CD91
      @19CD91 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      @@pieceofschmidtgamer its laughable because they say "facilitates piracy" thats so reductive and broad you could apply it to almost anything. Better not sell hard drives and sd cards. Better not sell computers. 😅

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      They even sell usb drives stuffed full of rooms even 😂

    • @RandomPlaceHolderName
      @RandomPlaceHolderName 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Those are older gen games. It's perfectly understandable for Nintendo to be touchy about its current gen being emulated so widely.

    • @romangleyzer4567
      @romangleyzer4567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Allegedly

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

    This from Amazon that sells a sea of cheap Chinese devices that are full of thousands of completely illegal ROMs.

    • @james_tiberius_kirk73
      @james_tiberius_kirk73 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I have about 4 of them 😅

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah... Amazon clearly doesn't care much about the law or doing what's right... they just care about profit. They're notorious for treating workers poorly, and they've created an entire ecosystem of Amazon-exclusive ways to scam customers, but they also ban people like ES-DE trying to do legitimate business.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not just handhelds too, but R4s as well.

    • @documentthedrama8279
      @documentthedrama8279 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      lets.....not draw attention eh
      they probably arent aware or are being purposefully dumb to avoid legal issues

    • @postplays
      @postplays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@documentthedrama8279
      Dummies gonna dumb. This is garnering unneeded attention to the emulation scene by a big company like Amazon.

  • @pmmcrobb
    @pmmcrobb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    Took me two minutes to get the refund. That being said, they said they’d do it as an “exception” for being an excellent customer. No, you delisted the app, I have a right to a refund lol.

    • @dalewilliams8077
      @dalewilliams8077 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      They said exactly the same to me: "as a one off exception we can process a refund". My response was "I'm not happy that you're trying to make out you're doing me a favour by doing something that you are mandated to do by law"

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Meanwhile, despite having spent like 15 years posting detailed reviews about products in a field where I have deep expertise, marked by thousands of people as "helpful", I'm now banned from posting Amazon reviews for reasons they refuse to explain. I'm guessing it's because I sometimes point out when the product descriptions are false, and give the actual correct specs.

    • @Brandon-bc5um
      @Brandon-bc5um 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      companies always say this bs lol

    • @oktosite_
      @oktosite_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ToyKeeper Wait, did I just stumble upon _the_ ToyKeeper of Anduril fame in these comments? I love my Anduril flashlights and they have unironically made my life as a visually impaired person just that little bit better, so thank you!

    • @rchgmer863
      @rchgmer863 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ToyKeeperdoing god's work 🫡

  • @hihellokitty85
    @hihellokitty85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    LOL. Amazon allows sellers to sell like 8TB filled with pirated games.

    • @HUYI1
      @HUYI1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the irony right? LOL

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They're happy to profit from things which are illegal or immoral, but as soon as something is actually good for the end user or threatens any big corporations, they pull out the banhammer.

    • @pegcity4eva
      @pegcity4eva 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And prohibited weapons

    • @edu5257
      @edu5257 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no, not amazon, check the seller again.

  • @DeadVoivod
    @DeadVoivod 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The great part about ES is that I also use it already on many devices and keeping the scraped content is really helpful instead of having it to scrape again, like with Daijishō. Plus having a familiar frontend is also great.

  • @chronossage
    @chronossage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +317

    Considering Nintendo is suing yuzu right now I can only hope this isn't the start of a big emulation crackdown.

    • @Sharp931
      @Sharp931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Nintendo managed to be worse than Oracle.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      They're not exactly suing about the emulator. They're looking at their instructions on getting keys and such.

    • @thatguywiththevoice2309
      @thatguywiththevoice2309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Doesn’t it tell you how to get the keys legally? Like from your own switch?

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Wouldn't really matter. The apps don't need a storefront in order to be installed on your devices. You can just sideload it.

    • @Madblaster6
      @Madblaster6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@thatguywiththevoice2309 That's the question. It's not illegal or legal atm but Nintendo is arguing it's instructions to break their encryption so it should be illegal.

  • @mmpsp693
    @mmpsp693 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This situation is ridiculou. Hope everything works out for the best

  • @arbbo1675
    @arbbo1675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for this video. I subbed to the Patreon and will keep it subbed for a few months or so to support the developer. I have been waiting for Emulationstation on Android for years.

  • @gregmasciola3332
    @gregmasciola3332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm just glad we can still get the app and also agree going through Patreon seems like less of a hassle.

  • @crystal_is_cozy
    @crystal_is_cozy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks for the update! I just purchased the Patreon app.

  • @portnaluinge
    @portnaluinge 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I agree that, in the long run, the move to Patreon is likely for the best. I hope this isn't a crackdown on emulation on Android though.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it's not good. Patreon is shit. They'll deplatform you just because

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@alfwok
      Well, the truth is that Nintendo expects some level of piracy. But they are REALLY agitated by the likes of Valve and the SteamDeck. Also by the AYN Odin2 to some extent. That's who they really would like to target.

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also I think Nintendo is a lot at fault here with the NSwitch. Let's just say they made it pocketable.... well, now it's a different category of device.
      Or better yet, if they took my advice instead: use modern technology! If they had it with 8x Cortex A73, downclocked to save power, and with 256GB Storage and 8GB RAM to allow modern game development. And have the chipset built using 14nm FinFet instead of the 22nm-Planar silicon. Maybe make the iGPU decent to be able to pull off something like 720p, 30fps, Low Settings. Then when you attach it to the Dock, it does a few things. It Fast Charges the device, it cools it down with Fans, it ramps up the CPU clocks, and lastly it activates the eGPU. That way you this hypothetical "Kangal Switch" actually has decent performance behind it, and it gets ports for games that were also released for the XB1 and PS4.
      Also this higher ceiling of performance actually SLOWS the development and the speed of emulation. The Wii released in late 2006 and was cracked instantly. The Wii was much weaker than its direct competitor PS3, and that last one wasn't hacked or emulated until over a decade. In fact, the 2002 Xbox itself is much more powerful than the Wii, it is laughable.
      Nintendo saves BILLIONS by selling hardware at exorbitant prices whilst using cheap components. Greedy. Well the result of that is emulation. You can't have it both ways.

    • @EmuQuest
      @EmuQuest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alfwoknot true, read the document there is zero mention of a Patreon

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can sell emulators. There is no law against it. Stop simping.@@alfwok

  • @marksemczyszyn
    @marksemczyszyn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Solid video Russ. Now it’s not on the Amazon App Store, I’m happy to take the plunge and support developers directly.

  • @RobyMicrobi
    @RobyMicrobi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey! I love how you customised your Odin 2. Do you think you could do a video tutorial xplaining how you did it and where you bought the buttons and everything?

  • @izzykazoo7569
    @izzykazoo7569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Can't wait for the streisand effect to start

    • @washuai
      @washuai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not only will people that don't already know hear, about it. This will prod people to dump their games and share. More specifically, a rush to download the entire Nintendo catalog, just in case.

    • @arvs7356
      @arvs7356 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠​⁠@@washuaisorry to burst your bubbles but there’s no streisand effect to this. The emulation frontend (NOT emulation) market on mobile OSes is still a niche market. Those who are really keen on using a frontend will most probably know how to sideload the app on Android then call it a day.

    • @postplays
      @postplays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@arvs7356
      These events bring unwanted attention to the emulation scene. The dev should have never had tried to sell his app through Amazon to begin with. Nintendo is already breathing down Yuzu's neck. Legacy sites like Vimms Lair are always in danger the more and more "influencers" talk about it.
      This is all very much related and not localized in the emulation frontend department.

    • @hayaokakizaki4463
      @hayaokakizaki4463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I downloaded Yuzu for my phone (it works by the way, but coverage is spotty!) only after I found out Yuzu was shutting down

  • @bluegeorgeee
    @bluegeorgeee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, getting closer to the half million subs!

  • @slpstrm6952
    @slpstrm6952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I followed your video from last week and installed Emulation Station on my Retroid Pocket 4.
    What's really strange is our received a update from the Amazon app store for Emulation Station this morning and it's still working no problems at all and it's still showed it listed on the store still as well.
    I'm in Australia so I don't know if it makes any difference but I wouldn't think it would, but it's truly bizarre that a front end has been stopped for emulation even though it does not emulate anything itself.

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If you already own the app then you can update it on your device, but it won't be getting any future updates.

  • @tmp-3mtempest79
    @tmp-3mtempest79 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting coverage! I have a question, and am hoping you'll know: What would be the major differences between something like ES-DE on Android... and another frontend like Daijisho? I already use the latter - is there anything noteworthy to make it worth switching to Android ES-DE?

  • @seadx6
    @seadx6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think Amazon got scared due to Nintendo's lawsuit to Yuzu
    Either way I prefer the Patreon route since it is DRM free, it does not require any secondary store and it gives access to everyone worldwide, the Amazon app store is unavailable in Latin America

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day

  • @Shibbs
    @Shibbs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for all the updated info Russ!
    The Yuzu/Nintendo thing is interesting for sure, Yuzu doesn't supply any bios/keys for the games so it'll be interesting (read: scary) to see how this goes.
    Off topic: I've been thinking of grabbing another MiniPC just for setting up as a Media Server for Plex etc & digitizing my tv dvd/blu sets with how ridiculous streaming services are now.
    Do you have a MiniPC you'd recommend for that?
    Thanks again as always for these helpful and entertaining videos!

  • @TheCoolDave
    @TheCoolDave หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ordered ES-DE as soon as knew it was available. Mainly got it for my Android Cell phone but, I use it with my KT-R1 and your other video worked awesome for the loader.

  • @user-vt9wy5cm2s
    @user-vt9wy5cm2s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Russ, been watching for a year. Love your videos, first comment for me. Would love a tutorial on where you bought your black and colored accessories on odin 2 and how to install. My odin 2 is coming in a week and your white odin 2 with your changes convinced me to buy it.

  • @FireLordOzai001
    @FireLordOzai001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks for the update Russ! I setup ES on my android device per your video. But ended up with Daijisho because I can choose which version of dolphin I want to use per game. Unless there’s a way to do that with ES, I’m sticking with Daijisho for now

    • @arbbo1675
      @arbbo1675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dig Daijishou but I really don't like how there is no offline backup option and if you set it up on one memory card then later want to upgrade to a larger card, you have to set up directories all over again.

    • @FireLordOzai001
      @FireLordOzai001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@arbbo1675 yeah I totally see the benefit of that. It was easy to reinstall ES after it was dropped from Amazon. But I don’t change android devices often so setting up Daijisho is t the bothersome to me. Hopefully Daijisho will add this feature in the future. I also really like that all the setting are hidden in ES and with one button press you bring them up. Keeps the UI clean and simple.

    • @arbbo1675
      @arbbo1675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @FireLordOzai001 My issue with Daijishou is not necessarily about changing devices, but changing cards. Daijishou doesn't give you access to it's database. I would like to be able to make an offline backup to go from one card/device to another without setting directories again. ES is also more of a standard and I have it on multiple devices and I have all the same games/artwork/themes on all of them.

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can choose which emulator to use per game from the metadata editor, it's available from the gamelist options menu.

    • @FireLordOzai001
      @FireLordOzai001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ES-DE_Frontend thanks, I’m definitely going to try that out!!

  • @jonathantegnell9935
    @jonathantegnell9935 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It seems on Reddit many people have recently updated ES on Steam Deck and the ROMs all go missing because ES redirects the directory pointer. Can you address this?

  • @dudubenabou
    @dudubenabou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Daijisho for me for now. I have got it all perfect on my flip. Thinking of jumping on Odin 2 , or RP4 Pro or maybe wait for next gen odin or maybe flip. So i am on holding pattern now. Watching where the market goes. With a new device i will definitely check ES 😁

    • @diegoramos2817
      @diegoramos2817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Daijisho, Does it give an error? I mean, do you ever have any problem using daijisho?

    • @heavenly2k
      @heavenly2k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To an outsider, you just spoke gibberish lol. Like you're just saying nonsense if you know nothing about emulators

    • @diegoramos2817
      @diegoramos2817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@heavenly2k I will rephrase because I use Google translate to better express my doubt.
      in some Front-Ends when you start the game they give errors... The daijisho from what I researched: when it doesn't open the game it at least opens the Emulator.
      My question is, did you experience any problems? Have there been any errors using Daijisho? I'm researching to find out which is the best Front-End...

  • @AndruComedy
    @AndruComedy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love the idea of Daijosho and that it's free but there's just certain things you can't customize that drives me nuts. Can't even resize my box art.

    • @Bugside
      @Bugside 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also it hasn't been updated in like six months, might be abandoned

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Bugsideits pretty feature complete and extremely stable, so even if its abandoned, it might be fine staying like it is for a while

  • @LiiT3xGaming
    @LiiT3xGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn i just finished today setting everything up, thanks for the update

  • @mamaharumi
    @mamaharumi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Between CDromance, Yuzu, and this, I'm honestly worried about the future of emulation.

    • @iansteelmatheson
      @iansteelmatheson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      yeah. emuparadise too, though that was a while ago

    • @xFEARxPHOENIXx
      @xFEARxPHOENIXx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      CDROMANCE Links are working again.

    • @williamwhite2830
      @williamwhite2830 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      noticed that @@xFEARxPHOENIXx

    • @Red_Sutter
      @Red_Sutter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’ll be plenty of places that let you steal games popping up in the near future. Just like a hydra

    • @HUYI1
      @HUYI1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and this is why it's important to own LOCAL external RELIABLE hard drives, stop using cloud online services and keep your retro gaming data offline from any prying eyes, i've already recently preserved my GB, GBA, GBC games onto reliable OFFLINE flash carts and a good old GBA SP IPS V2, no internet required

  •  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Russ do you think it may be a good idea to edit and repost the original video so you don't unintetionally send people to those scam apps on the Amazon App Store?

  • @Dsuds23
    @Dsuds23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the heads up brother

  • @SolidSt8Dj
    @SolidSt8Dj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "Except that Patreon is something that the devs can actually control".
    Except for all those times Patreon screwed over it's creators.
    I get the point, but this statement is still funny to me.

    • @vexorian
      @vexorian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Patreon is considerably less risky than google or amazon.

    • @SolidSt8Dj
      @SolidSt8Dj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@vexorian Agreed, but still ironic

  • @DucksInMayonnaise
    @DucksInMayonnaise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Nintendo vs Yuzu lawsuit will be quite interesting. From what I undertand, Nintendo is trying to frame Yuzu as being aware and intentionally working on that emulator to play commercial games on an unauthorized device, pointing out the instructions they provide to use a hardware vulnerability to obtain an ecryption key and pirate games and also conversations and statements that has been circulating in the Discord server.
    I do wonder about the outcome legally of this lawsuit. I think Nintendo tries to stretch the truth as far as they can (as always) to prove how emulation is closely related to piracy and condemn emulation as piracy as a whole, but I don't think it will be seen that way. As for the whole "Yuzu being an enabler in piracy", they may have a case here though.

  • @phoenixgold9735
    @phoenixgold9735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love using es-de on my ayn odin 2 pro!!! Only issue is connecting with the PSvita had to do some work around to show it in the es-de from the forum page could you help make a video about how to set it up? I got lost on the forum page when it talked about the title id setup

  • @MD-sc1jk
    @MD-sc1jk หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been using EmulationStation since the Raspberry Pi 3 and I loved it. I am happy that it is available on Android. I installed on my RP4Pro and It works great. I can't wait for future updates.

  • @isanparion9352
    @isanparion9352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Russ! Love your videos! Been watching for a few years now. I wanted to ask your opinion on what handheld would be a good fit for what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a good handheld with a premium feel to it, maybe something with a metal case but under $200, and can play PSP games well. I like the horizontal format, like a switch. Any suggestions?

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel like the metal Retroid Pocket 3+ would have been a perfect fit for this use case, but sadly I don't see it on their store any more so you may have to look on eBay or Amazon to see if someone is selling one. It's generally under $200, premium feeling, and can play PSP at a 3x upscale. I made a video about it last year if you want to check it out! th-cam.com/video/DEdA11yN_fI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Uj-6Rg8g8z6-NmKd

    • @isanparion9352
      @isanparion9352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I'll give it a look!

  • @gregmasciola3332
    @gregmasciola3332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you get it through Patreon do you have to uninstall it and reinstall with the new APK file like you did in this video when they come out with updates?

    • @shaderdream
      @shaderdream 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they use the same signing keys and same internal app name, Android should let you install it over the existing app, so if you get it just try it and see what it does, unless the developer is specifically saying you need to uninstall it for some reason. If they used a different signing key it won't let you install it over the existing version (otherwise someone could install their own version over the top to access the app's private data), or if the internal app name is different, they will just coexist as different apps.

  • @APEXGuerilla
    @APEXGuerilla 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you get 3D box art on EmulationStation like on LaunchBox/BigBox? Just deciding which to set up.
    Maybe a deep dive comparison vid of these launchers would be neat? 👐

    • @steelzepplin2012
      @steelzepplin2012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used the windows screenscraper app to do this, i selected the videos, 3D box art, and metadata and then transferred it over to all my emulation devices that use emulation station :P you will never have to scrape again

    • @snart
      @snart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can - I love this front end!

  • @CragScrambler
    @CragScrambler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the info, I just got refunded via amazon uk with no problems.

  • @AeonTekOR
    @AeonTekOR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I highly recommend the Nerd Nest podcast, one of my weekly go-tos.

  • @-Crustyboi-
    @-Crustyboi- 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Odin 2 looks sick. I gotta get me one of those one day when I have some spare money left 😅

  • @CellPhish
    @CellPhish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really like Dijisho but it might be time to give ES a try. I’m just torn having my Android and Linux handhelds look the same

  • @richarddukard8989
    @richarddukard8989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope we’ll eventually be able to boot into emulation station directly

  • @SickLiq
    @SickLiq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope you'll talk about Nintendo suit at some point on your own channel. A teaser about some other thing I have to like and subscribe to to get the good stuff has me nostalgic for small channel Retro Game Corps.

  • @arcadevalleys5381
    @arcadevalleys5381 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do we have any work around to use the internal space of the retroid? ex: I have everything on the SD card except the PS2 games,those im using the internal storage

  • @gatacca
    @gatacca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wish ES-DE will add custom folder pointing for ROMs folder and per system just like what we have with Daijisho. For someone who loves to maximize every inch of space on the odin2, this is a showstopper for me to port over to ES

    • @1337brian2
      @1337brian2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should be able to change rom path per emulator using the xml file

    • @gatacca
      @gatacca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the tips on this. Much appreciated. Like on my Odin2, i split my ROMS between internal and external storage. Do you know if the XML path modification can recognize both the internal and external path?@@1337brian2

    • @gatacca
      @gatacca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1337brian2 do you know if using the xml to specify custom rom path, it can recognize both the internal and external storage on Odin2? I have had my ROMS split between those two unfortunately.

  • @Goldfire345
    @Goldfire345 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I wanted to get it on the Amazon store but since I already had paid for dig I didn't want to pay for another front end without some kind of demo to see if I like it. a video just won't cut it I'd actually need to be able to use it first since there's a upfront time investment to fully set a front end up

  • @brandonmurray3629
    @brandonmurray3629 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Russ you’re a champ for explaining all this on your channel

  • @pixelpuppy
    @pixelpuppy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I think part of the problem with this is that there's monetary gain involved. Nintendo and other companies have left this stuff alone until money changed hands. You don't see them going after Retroarch etc.

    • @Bob_Smith19
      @Bob_Smith19 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You are allowed to turn a profit. Bleem won their lawsuit against Sony. But they went bankrupt in the process.

    • @TakisEnjoyer
      @TakisEnjoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Bob_Smith19Bleem won lawsuit on completely different matter, not it being commercial. There was another emulator that won on profits stuff, but a lot has changed since then.

    • @vexorian
      @vexorian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is simply wrong. Nintendo is cracking down on emulation because it's popular. They are going to sue regardless of taking money. And we really need to stop discouraging devs from making a profit. At least thanks to their patreon, the yuzu devs got something in exchange of all their work.

    • @pixelpuppy
      @pixelpuppy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Bob_Smith19 1. I didn't say they weren't allowed to turn a profit. What I'm saying is Nintendo doesn't like that.
      2. It's clear Nintendo is trying to just make yuzu fold under pressure.

    • @washuai
      @washuai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@vexoriandoes the "profit" cover the legal fees and stress?

  • @MrZakuRetro
    @MrZakuRetro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i really think that having in a appstore it was a bad choice i use phone as emulator console i don't use any store, the patreon maybe is the best choice.

  • @boardgameboyz8097
    @boardgameboyz8097 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanna buy a handheld to play retro games up to PS1, screen between 5" to 6", less than 200$, high quality screen and material, and a decent design are my priority, what handheld do you recommend?

  • @stuartjebb3258
    @stuartjebb3258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On a different note we now have a working virtual boy emulator working in 3d on the 3ds and it's awesome u can even change screen colours called red viper

  • @ejlisee9
    @ejlisee9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really need help! I'm so torn between all of the new retro handhelds in the last year. I want one that is pocketable, can play upscaled psp and doesn't get hot and doesn't have a ton of bootloop problems and charging issues.Any suggestions?

  • @primalconvoy
    @primalconvoy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm pretty sure that I saw it for sale at Google Play just after your previous video about this came out?

  • @johndelanie3649
    @johndelanie3649 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Facilitates piracy" so do PCs, hard drives, and literally anything with an OS and storage, better de-list all that too

  • @theMeshtar
    @theMeshtar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It so happens I just received a notification that my Odin 2 is being shipped! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @XcaliburW
    @XcaliburW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t downloaded Yuzu but, hopefully it doesn’t get taken down like Skyline.
    Keep up the great vids Russ 👍

    • @Bugside
      @Bugside 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go download it now and save the apk just in case

  • @itech1129
    @itech1129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What would be the best all in one windows emulator

  • @RyanSaotome
    @RyanSaotome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really wish another one of these frontends would have the gameplay time tracking. This is a non negotiable feature for me since I love keeping a playtime history of all the games I have, and Dig is still the only one I've found that has it so I still use Dig even with its pretty archaic setup.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its funny that samsung has an insanely good and extremely complete game tracking in their gaming hub on their phones. Would love any frontend to copy this

  • @Abdu_19
    @Abdu_19 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are all the Emulators with all the Games Pre installed? Or do i need to download the Emulators or Games i Like?

  • @KyleLambiotte
    @KyleLambiotte หลายเดือนก่อน

    So for some reason I was able to get GameCube games to launch through dolphin from emulation station but I just installed Wii games and they flash a white screen before returning to emulation station. I have directed the alternate emulator and verified all games work in dolphin directly, but emulation station can’t seem to launch. Any fix???

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I really hope Yuzu isn't taken down...

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@monki_sudoyes it does because you need updates for new games

    • @CasualPooper
      @CasualPooper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chiquita683someone else will keep it going and exhaust Nintendo

    • @TuxedoMaskMusic
      @TuxedoMaskMusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they shouldn't have tried to profit from open source code that relies on use of a file like prod.keys that's widely pirated rather than legit dumped in 90% of end users cases, the reality is had they kept this purely NON PROFIT OPEN SOURCE and didnt turn it into a profiteering glutton situation Nintendo wouldn't be able to sue them but the reality is they charge money for their patreon and downloads using nintendo copyrighted encryption files and without it they couldn't run yuzu it wouldn't work. they got greedy and its gonna bite them in the ass. Bet on it.

    • @azenyr
      @azenyr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Its opensource so someone will grab the code and keep evolving it probably under a different name. Opensource projects are unkillable

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@monki_sudoIt matters, because legal action hurts the creators, slows development, makes things harder for the users, and causes what lawyers call a "chilling effect" or a "SLAPP". It's enough of a problem that some places have "SLAPP-back" laws to protect people from this type of harmful lawsuit.

  • @lewisguapo
    @lewisguapo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what device is that? I want one that can play gamecube and switch games...

  • @Keanine
    @Keanine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm curious, does the Android version have a vertical mode? I'd mostly use it for DS, Gameboy and Gameboy Advance stuff so I'd prefer to play vertical and therefore have the interface in vertical, but I want to check before I throw money at it

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes you can rotate the application internally 90, 180 or 270 degrees, there's a setting for this in the Other settings menu. Few themes will look good with that though, but the Slate and Tategriddy these will at least work fine.

    • @Keanine
      @Keanine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ES-DE_Frontend Understandable, thank you! This project has really come a long way

  • @cactusmanbwl1990
    @cactusmanbwl1990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Emulation station doesn't emulate or allow the pirating of games in any way shape or form. It's essentially just a file browser that links to other apps. I don't understand how it can be taken down, while things like Retroarch are totally fine.

  • @GothicMatt17
    @GothicMatt17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Random question, do you know how to get solarus emulator onto emulation station using the steam deck? I had it on Batocera but I can’t figure out how to get it onto emulation station

  • @DucksInMayonnaise
    @DucksInMayonnaise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer Daijisho for now for the simplicity of the interface, but I'm looking forward to the day ES-DE will fully integrate Android ecosystem functionality :)

  • @joshuabrain9751
    @joshuabrain9751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone else having issues downloading from the link on Patreon? I've tried to download the APK about 10 times now and my download always fails

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The webserver can't really handle this file size with so many downloads at the same time, I'm investigating a different place for the APK for the next release. This was just something temporary I had to throw together as the Amazon takedown was obviously completely unexpected.

    • @joshuabrain9751
      @joshuabrain9751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ES-DE_Frontend no worries. Thanks 👍

  • @benjamin75016
    @benjamin75016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's a shame. Fantastic app, I just set it up on Odin 2 and It's transformative. I was slightly biased towards Linux for my handhelds before (even with Dajisho) but ES-DE single-handedly changed that, I will certainly buy it again from their website.
    On a side note, does anyone know how to remove the lower black border when disabling UI help ? Theme is Artbook Next if it matters.

  • @666jonnyblaze
    @666jonnyblaze 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which is a better pick the Odin 2 or Abxylute? Probably the odin 2 im guessing

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have been using ES-DE on a Raspberry Pi 400 via Batocera, and it's pretty awesome. I try to avoid Android though, and Amazon, Apple, and really anything proprietary or corporate. Can't post how I feel about them though, at least not without tripping a content filter. :P

  • @ward14473
    @ward14473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just wondering is there a way i can continue where i left of scraping roms because i dont want rescape my roms over again any ideas

  • @ricardomerced12
    @ricardomerced12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would like to know your thoughts on nintendo statements of yu-zu emulator.

  • @ushilives3
    @ushilives3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to install this on my secondary phone (Poco F1) and use it for gaming only. Its currently on android 10 though, ill give the app a try but if it don't work ill have to upgrade to android 11

  • @mattb6522
    @mattb6522 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the head's up, Russ! I definitely am interested in getting ES-DE on my Retroid Pocket 4 Pro as it was already so amazing on my Steam Deck. It is a shame that the developer is having issues with Amazon and Google Play, but I am happy to support them directly via Patreon instead! Daijisho is decent, but I just prefer EmulationStation in general.

  • @jakesmith5278
    @jakesmith5278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome front end. Love it on my Steam Deck and will buy it for Android and Windows when all these shenanigans are done. We really cannot have nice things.

    • @skel3370r
      @skel3370r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For Windows, retrobat already exists for free and is the emulation station front end for retroarch

    • @sockpuppet187
      @sockpuppet187 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ES-DE is free on Windows.

  • @MohammadAliKhan124
    @MohammadAliKhan124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks so cool 😍

  • @saiyan_princestudios9790
    @saiyan_princestudios9790 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can someone plz help me! i downloaded koriki for my abernic 35xx plus but now all of the original games that came with it are gone :( i'm so sad and upset and dont know what to do even watched a ton of youtubers step by step etc. and koriki only has like 1 game each.

  • @ndiolo
    @ndiolo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just for info, I was planning to follow this tutorial and the Amazon said an update was available for ES-DE
    Now I'm currently on version 3.0.0

  • @OneLifeGames
    @OneLifeGames 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope more developers move to Patreon. ❤

    • @VSMOKE1
      @VSMOKE1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Patron sucks they get political

  • @derekv6479
    @derekv6479 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I don't emulate on Android with new devices anymore anyways because of scoped storage. Breaks my syncing saves between all the platforms I game on. There are quite a few emulators that take that into account that automatically direct the save folder outside the android folder and a few more that allow you to choose because of that, but it is not ubiquitous and unfortunately one or two that don't take that garbage into account is enough to break the device for my purposes. Really horrible. Used to be the open source platform, now they're worse than Apple with restrictions!!!

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Android pretty much destroyed the good community-based open-source mobile platforms. It was never about bringing open-source to phones; it was about making open-source less hostile to corporate interests (like profit and control), by making it more hostile to the user. It's basically a proprietary OS built from open parts.

  • @kevindemo1280
    @kevindemo1280 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, at the least I'm glad there isn't a big issue setting up the APK if the Amazon version has been configured. That said, I'm gonna roll with my current install for the time being, if there's a major update before this hits the Play store (if it does at all) I'll go the Patreon route, but I'd just rather have it downloaded through a service that will keep it updated rather than doing it manually moving forward.
    Just a couple of weeks ago I replaced both my kids' tablets from Amazon Fire ones to Samsung Galaxy Tabs mostly because I was so sick of dealing with Amazon's garbage restrictive ecosystem, and I'm feeling even between about that call today. I do hope that the ES dev gets the payout from Amazon for downloads that weren't refunded 🤞

  • @Thenewbagman
    @Thenewbagman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So Amazon heard of the Yuzu Nintendo incident and they remove anything remotely related with emulation even if there's nothing to emulate on a frontend ....

    • @HUYI1
      @HUYI1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nintendo Ninjas like agent 47 🤣🤣

    • @M_CFV
      @M_CFV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That doesn't make sense within a few minutes into the video. There are still plenty of actual emulators on their store, including Nintendo ones

  • @luxorcephrenSE23
    @luxorcephrenSE23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jeez! I hope they don't crack down on Kodi!!!

  • @marksemczyszyn
    @marksemczyszyn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ayaneo Pocket Air has an issue. When you start ES-DE it always asks to have permission to access the controller. When you select a game (say Genesis with RetroArch) ES-DE seems to keep hold of the controller so RA assumes there isn't one connected. Only way to make RA start using the controller is to swipe down, disable Hand Lever and re enable. Then controls work. The other system I tested Flycast behaves the same way. Pocket Air presents it's controls as an Xbox controller. Hand Lever is the built in feature to disable the controller so that USB file transfer can happen.This doesn't happen with other launchers like Beacon or Daijisho.

    • @ES-DE_Frontend
      @ES-DE_Frontend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This has (hopefully) been fixed and will be a part of the next update. But just pressing "CANCEL" when the popup is shown should fix the issue as a workaround.

  • @wayfarergamedev113
    @wayfarergamedev113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible to run Dolphin app through this instead of retroarch version of dolphin?

  • @jierenzheng7670
    @jierenzheng7670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I know between Pegasus/Daijisho/Emulationstation, which would be the most lightweight frontend?

    • @Leo9az
      @Leo9az 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im curious to know too. Might compare between them and share the results later, but im too lazy to do so lol

  • @christopherbrisiel1898
    @christopherbrisiel1898 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video Russ - I loaded up my RP2S with the patreon version, installed successfully (had been using daijisho and dig), moved all my roms and setup the primary emulators for each system, but keep getting error, "Retroarch 64 (AArch64) isn't responding"... I've researched quite a bit and tried different emulators to no avail... anyone else resolve something similar?

  • @brunan-gi147
    @brunan-gi147 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, how do you update the frontend? Do you just run the new version apk and it will overide the old? Would it keep your settings?
    Thanks

    • @RetroGameCorps
      @RetroGameCorps  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      When new versions come out, yeah you'll just download the new apk and tap on it, and it'll update and retain all your settings.

    • @brunan-gi147
      @brunan-gi147 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Russ! I will give it a go. I was between this and Launchbox but this looks a bit more streamlined...@@RetroGameCorps

  • @T0NYFERRELL1
    @T0NYFERRELL1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Emulation from day one, which I consider to be the first release of MAME, was always about preservation first moved forward by volunteers with the primary interest of preservation first. A lot of viewers aren’t old enough to remember the drama of the early days of emulation, but the unwritten rule that came from it is you don’t talk about where to get ROMS’s, you avoid emulating supported systems that are still sold because that isn’t about preservation and you don’t expect any money to move the project forward.
    Expecting money for anything related to emulation, whether it be the emulator itself or emulation adjacent like launchers, makes it clear your project is not preservation and you are going to subject it to scrutiny. It doesn’t matter other emulators charging money aren’t taken down, it doesn’t matter how shit Amazon is as a company, it doesn’t matter that Amazon has double standards and sells 1000 in 1 ROM carts. Everyone reading this should be smart enough to know when a project is OK, when one starts to blur the lines and when one is clearly not about preservation and is actively under mining a supported system.
    Spruiking any projects related to emulation that charge money is not a great move IMO.

  • @evermillcreek
    @evermillcreek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a way to download and update the app without paying for it at all?

  • @BloodEdgeTrinity
    @BloodEdgeTrinity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Russ Drastic keeps crashing everytime i open a game any recommendations?

  • @DrSpriteZero
    @DrSpriteZero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just do the launchbox thing and make it a free app with the choice of buying a license externally

  • @RetroFunTech
    @RetroFunTech 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just got refunded after only talking to Amazon for a few minutes. Super Easy. I will definitely be backing the Patreon app. Thanks Russ!

    • @nunyabidnes6010
      @nunyabidnes6010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shouldn't even have to talk to anybody. You should immediately and automatically get a refund

  • @derek7384
    @derek7384 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the frontend.only issue I get a black screen when I point es to retroarch standalone emus work fine

  • @user-ep5sd9br3s
    @user-ep5sd9br3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Are you going to make an update review for the retroid pocket 4 now since it's gotten a update today?

  • @tedcruz1774
    @tedcruz1774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will the old intro song come back 😢 It was like death to an age of good times.

  • @manifestationnation
    @manifestationnation 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I paid for a launchbox license just to get video snaps in my Odin 2, and have my full library and everything already set up. Should I bother with Emulation Station?

  • @jbaziel
    @jbaziel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought it, well worth it for a console like experience

  • @ivysdanillo
    @ivysdanillo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please, help! Everytime I start a game on Emustation, it keeps redirecting me to Retroarch. Why?