Thanks for the amazing content. This is invaluable information for anyone who is new to Snowbird. What a beautiful family and seeing how stoked your children are skiing makes me smile every time.
This is amazing! Thank you so much for all of your videos. I'm relatively new to skiing and I've been going to Snowbird/Alta. I've found your previous videos very helpful when it comes to navigating the resorts. You are doing a wonderful service for the skiing community
Thanks your videos are very helpful. Since I'm usually on my own at Snowbird my biggest fear is going past the point of no return and getting into trouble. Your videos help me to visualize what I'll try and how to get there.
@@TheBlacktulips Thanks. I've basically done everything to Silver Fox. I'll be out there next week and per your video may start with Restaurant Roll. From there I guess it's just snow conditions. Based on your videos and others the difficulty of a lot of the double blacks depends on how much snow and ice there is?
@@trevorsyversen9956 let me give you a long answer, the difficulty of double black are based on a few things 1. How hard is the traverse, 2. How hard is entrance, 3. Is there obstacles you need to navigate 4. Steepness. Restaurant roll is a good one to try because it has no obstacles, easy entrance and relatively easy traverse. After that you can try to take on one more challenge at a time, for example, if you want to try slightly harder traverse, then Wilma is a good one, then daltons draw the tower 3. If you want to try harder entrance then great Scott, then upper circle, then those free ride lines. If you want to try navigating rocks and obstacles, try Wilbur bowl, late season gad chute, then upper cirque. Just Make sure you don’t go straight to upper cirque. Finally watch the snow condition, restaurant roll can be really good if on a windy day right after storm because wind will deposit snow here; but it can be bad if it’s dry sunny and warm for a few days as it faces west
The key to how to get use to skiing relatively (to you) steep terrain is actually determined by certain skiing skills. I talking about proper edge control, being able to make short radius turns on groomed terrain, proper ankle flex, balance over skis, feeling and apply pressure, transition from outside ski to inside ski early and knowing hot to round out/ complete a turn. I totally agree with you terrain choices and bringing a skier from, groomers to easy bumps to trees. However a strategy or tactic is only as good as an athlete’s skills to employ them. The ski school at Snowbird use to have an advanced class called Terrain and Conditions or Mountain Class. I have been skiing Alta Snowbird since 1989. You and your family are great ambassadors for skiing. Actually Mid Gad and Little Could are great choices to build skills and have fun on every run🙏🙏⛷⛷❄️
Thank you sir for your kind words. Totally agree with you that skills are the key. As someone who is still working on my own forms, I choose not to teach the skiing techniques myself and focus on introducing the terrains. We will be Alta/Bird season passholders again next winter and will try to continue to show how beautiful and fun they are.
So impressive and so excited now to go back to Snowbird more than likely in the 2022/2023 season! I went to Snowbird for the first time probably about...13 or so years ago, and back then I was more on the borderline between intermediate and advanced so the place definitely felt quite intimidating, but I think now I am definitely much more comfortable on single blacks and have done double blacks in other places but this guide will definitely be remembered for working my way up to ski double blacks at Snowbird.
Glad this is useful! Both Alta and Snowbird terrain can be intimidating, and there are areas that you don't want to go before you are ready. So definitely take you time and work your way up. Feel free to ask us questions.
@@TheBlacktulips definitely! I don't know if I'll be able to make a trip out to Snowbird this season, but definitely going to be eyeing a possible Ikon 22/23 Pass to make a trip there happen. Although it'll be fun trying to weigh that versus getting the Epic Pass.
Great info! I just came back from a trip to Salt lake. Spent 3 days this last week at Snowbird - amazing mountain, my new favorite. I was a little intimidated at first of the steepness, but got use to it pretty quick once I settled down. I ended up doing Silver Fox and the Endoras the first morning (had kids in ski school)…total blast. Your kids are great skiers btw!
That is awesome! Snowbird is a huge mountain with a lot of things to explore. We probably skied over 70+ days there and still feel there are a lot more we dont know. Let us know if you have more questions! happy to help.
Next time you come out here and ski snowbird stop by lower dad parking lot on Saturday and look me up. I've worked that parking lot for 7 years now. I'd like to meet you guys in real life
i like all the hard pack snow.. i got a pair of skis that is great for that.. i did buy a pair of skis for the powder, crud, and slush but haven't got to ski them yet.. they might be good for hard pack and groomers too.. we will see
Awesome tips--Snowbird can be intimidating when you're standing on a cornice on the cirque on your first run! Your guides to Snowbird and Alta runs are great--keep it up. Do you guys usually stay on mountain or Sandy/SLC? Accommodation is one area that seems to be lacking for Alta/SB.
For Alta/Bird, we always stay in SLC, either cottonwood heights or Sandy, not too far away from mouth of the canyon. The on mountain accommodations are lacking for Alta/Bird, mostly including meals and made it too expensive for the family. Both hotels and foot in SLC are so cheap with great quality. The major downside of staying in SLC is that after a major dump the road may be closed and traffic can be bad. That doesn't happen too often, you either get up really early or go to deer valley if you have ikon.
Good video but that wasn't Restaurant Roll. RR runs right next to Barry Barry Steep and actually converges with it at the bottom. There are two narrow throats on RR you kind of have to straightline (sometimes through rocks).
Thanks! I am pretty sure we went down restaurant roll (5:09-5:24). But the bottom part (5:24-5:37) is probably one of the exits on skier's far left that cut out of restaurant roll. Thanks for point out.
@@TheBlacktulips Well if you count "the top" as coming off the Cirque then by that definition you went down RR, Berry Berry Steep, Gad Chutes, Wilbere Bowl, and a whole bunch of other lines that originate off the Cirque there. But the Cirque Traverse does not count as part of the lines. In truth you were never really on RR as RR starts once you exit the trees to skiers right of where you were skiing then twists and winds (why ROLL is in the name) through a steep narrow chute requiring a couple straight lines through rocks. RR has no open skiing like you were doing... I ski Snowbird everyday.
@@kevinl8440 you are definitely right that cirque itself doesn’t count as part of the trail. And you are right that RR and Barry Barry steep are on different sides of trees/rock and merge at the bottom. What I was trying to say is that the footage in the video followed RR for a period then cut to the left of the open area instead of going straight staying closed to rock area. We’ve only skied 60-70 days total at the bird so don’t know it as well as you. You maybe right that as we cut to the left it is no long RR. It is hard to explain in words, but we will be season pass holder next winter. Maybe we can ski a few runs together and you can show us around. Thanks for commenting!
Your kids are great skiers now and they're going to be really good in a couple of years
Thanks for the amazing content. This is invaluable information for anyone who is new to Snowbird. What a beautiful family and seeing how stoked your children are skiing makes me smile every time.
This is amazing!
Thank you so much for all of your videos. I'm relatively new to skiing and I've been going to Snowbird/Alta. I've found your previous videos very helpful when it comes to navigating the resorts. You are doing a wonderful service for the skiing community
Appreciate your kind words, this gives me motivation to make more videos!
So glad I found this before going to snowbird for the first time . Thank you !
Thanks your videos are very helpful. Since I'm usually on my own at Snowbird my biggest fear is going past the point of no return and getting into trouble. Your videos help me to visualize what I'll try and how to get there.
Thank you! Happy to answer any questions!
@@TheBlacktulips Thanks. I've basically done everything to Silver Fox. I'll be out there next week and per your video may start with Restaurant Roll. From there I guess it's just snow conditions. Based on your videos and others the difficulty of a lot of the double blacks depends on how much snow and ice there is?
@@trevorsyversen9956 let me give you a long answer, the difficulty of double black are based on a few things 1. How hard is the traverse, 2. How hard is entrance, 3. Is there obstacles you need to navigate 4. Steepness. Restaurant roll is a good one to try because it has no obstacles, easy entrance and relatively easy traverse. After that you can try to take on one more challenge at a time, for example, if you want to try slightly harder traverse, then Wilma is a good one, then daltons draw the tower 3. If you want to try harder entrance then great Scott, then upper circle, then those free ride lines. If you want to try navigating rocks and obstacles, try Wilbur bowl, late season gad chute, then upper cirque. Just Make sure you don’t go straight to upper cirque. Finally watch the snow condition, restaurant roll can be really good if on a windy day right after storm because wind will deposit snow here; but it can be bad if it’s dry sunny and warm for a few days as it faces west
The key to how to get use to skiing relatively (to you) steep terrain is actually determined by certain skiing skills. I talking about proper edge control, being able to make short radius turns on groomed terrain, proper ankle flex, balance over skis, feeling and apply pressure, transition from outside ski to inside ski early and knowing hot to round out/ complete a turn. I totally agree with you terrain choices and bringing a skier from, groomers to easy bumps to trees. However a strategy or tactic is only as good as an athlete’s skills to employ them. The ski school at Snowbird use to have an advanced class called Terrain and Conditions or Mountain Class. I have been skiing Alta Snowbird since 1989. You and your family are great ambassadors for skiing. Actually Mid Gad and Little Could are great choices to build skills and have fun on every run🙏🙏⛷⛷❄️
Thank you sir for your kind words. Totally agree with you that skills are the key. As someone who is still working on my own forms, I choose not to teach the skiing techniques myself and focus on introducing the terrains. We will be Alta/Bird season passholders again next winter and will try to continue to show how beautiful and fun they are.
So impressive and so excited now to go back to Snowbird more than likely in the 2022/2023 season!
I went to Snowbird for the first time probably about...13 or so years ago, and back then I was more on the borderline between intermediate and advanced so the place definitely felt quite intimidating, but I think now I am definitely much more comfortable on single blacks and have done double blacks in other places but this guide will definitely be remembered for working my way up to ski double blacks at Snowbird.
Glad this is useful! Both Alta and Snowbird terrain can be intimidating, and there are areas that you don't want to go before you are ready. So definitely take you time and work your way up. Feel free to ask us questions.
@@TheBlacktulips definitely! I don't know if I'll be able to make a trip out to Snowbird this season, but definitely going to be eyeing a possible Ikon 22/23 Pass to make a trip there happen. Although it'll be fun trying to weigh that versus getting the Epic Pass.
Great info! I just came back from a trip to Salt lake. Spent 3 days this last week at Snowbird - amazing mountain, my new favorite. I was a little intimidated at first of the steepness, but got use to it pretty quick once I settled down. I ended up doing Silver Fox and the Endoras the first morning (had kids in ski school)…total blast. Your kids are great skiers btw!
That is awesome! Snowbird is a huge mountain with a lot of things to explore. We probably skied over 70+ days there and still feel there are a lot more we dont know. Let us know if you have more questions! happy to help.
Great video. Thank you!
Next time you come out here and ski snowbird stop by lower dad parking lot on Saturday and look me up. I've worked that parking lot for 7 years now. I'd like to meet you guys in real life
Absolutely, would love to meet up. We won’t be at snowbird this winter but next winter we should be at SLC and coming to snowbird all the time.
i like all the hard pack snow.. i got a pair of skis that is great for that.. i did buy a pair of skis for the powder, crud, and slush but haven't got to ski them yet.. they might be good for hard pack and groomers too.. we will see
This is fantastic
Awesome tips--Snowbird can be intimidating when you're standing on a cornice on the cirque on your first run! Your guides to Snowbird and Alta runs are great--keep it up. Do you guys usually stay on mountain or Sandy/SLC? Accommodation is one area that seems to be lacking for Alta/SB.
For Alta/Bird, we always stay in SLC, either cottonwood heights or Sandy, not too far away from mouth of the canyon. The on mountain accommodations are lacking for Alta/Bird, mostly including meals and made it too expensive for the family. Both hotels and foot in SLC are so cheap with great quality. The major downside of staying in SLC is that after a major dump the road may be closed and traffic can be bad. That doesn't happen too often, you either get up really early or go to deer valley if you have ikon.
Damn autocorrect I said GAD not DAD
Ha ha
Good video but that wasn't Restaurant Roll. RR runs right next to Barry Barry Steep and actually converges with it at the bottom. There are two narrow throats on RR you kind of have to straightline (sometimes through rocks).
Thanks! I am pretty sure we went down restaurant roll (5:09-5:24). But the bottom part (5:24-5:37) is probably one of the exits on skier's far left that cut out of restaurant roll. Thanks for point out.
@@TheBlacktulips Well if you count "the top" as coming off the Cirque then by that definition you went down RR, Berry Berry Steep, Gad Chutes, Wilbere Bowl, and a whole bunch of other lines that originate off the Cirque there. But the Cirque Traverse does not count as part of the lines. In truth you were never really on RR as RR starts once you exit the trees to skiers right of where you were skiing then twists and winds (why ROLL is in the name) through a steep narrow chute requiring a couple straight lines through rocks. RR has no open skiing like you were doing... I ski Snowbird everyday.
@@kevinl8440 you are definitely right that cirque itself doesn’t count as part of the trail. And you are right that RR and Barry Barry steep are on different sides of trees/rock and merge at the bottom. What I was trying to say is that the footage in the video followed RR for a period then cut to the left of the open area instead of going straight staying closed to rock area. We’ve only skied 60-70 days total at the bird so don’t know it as well as you. You maybe right that as we cut to the left it is no long RR. It is hard to explain in words, but we will be season pass holder next winter. Maybe we can ski a few runs together and you can show us around. Thanks for commenting!
Also think old ladies is a great place to learn off piste after you get comfortable on regulator johnson