Helmet Ear Pro On A Budget (Attach Howard Leights To A Longfri Ballistic Helmet)
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- Step by step process on how to attach Howard Leight ear pro to your tactical helmet arc rails.
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I figured out how to do this on my own with my Peltor Tac 100's, but I'm glad this video exists to let me know I'm not a moron and actually did it right.
😂 thanks
They make arc rail adapters specifically for Howard leigh ear pro. You just pop off the existing arms and push on the rail adapters. No need to cut any wires.
you would still have to cut apart the leather band to get the wire free. So you are destroying that part either way. I dont see why you would buy the “adapters” when you can slide the metal wire in the existing 3m piece. Seems like spending more on an unnecessary part. Thanks for watching 😀
@@poortac5568 I did mine so I could reuse them without the helmet. I cut my strap so I could just put a little gorilla tape on it to reuse. Definitely appreciate the video, especially if you plan for it to be a dedicated helmet setup. I only mentioned the other adapter for folks that want to go back and forth.
@@lelandsdad13 Thats true, I have so many pairs of ear pro, Im ok sacrificing one 😂
Do you have a link?
Awesome job guys! Still hitting the gear that a lot of people are looking at. Keep it up!
Thanks for the support! 😀
Solid video, but I would like to point out that you DO NOT HAVE TO DREMEL (not yelling, just drawing attention. lol) the metal wire on the Howard Leights. The plastic tab that the metal wire slips into are clipped onto the ear pro with a simple plastic locking tab. You can use a flathead screwdriver (or simple makeshift prying tool of your choice) and pry up gently behind the black plastic near where it clicks into the OD green tab on the ear pro. It doesn't take a ton of effort, and it pops off and then you can rotate the black plastic piece to remove the metal wire, and then attach the 3M piece and click it right back onto the ear pro.
For the audio wire, short of disassembling the actual ear pro, you do need to cut the head strap "leather" as you show in the video, however, and that definitely is the better way to go from what I can see.
Great video! I love seeing modifications like this.
Thanks for the info! I was afraid of breaking those plastic tabs, so I just cut the wire. I couldnt use it afterwards anyway. Thanks for watching 😀
@@poortac5568 I hear ya! I'm always wary of breaking stuff that doesn't appear to be easily replaceable. Those little tabs are pretty sturdy though. They don't flex much at all when you pry them. They come off pretty neatly and pop right back on.
"Klein Tools J206-8C Long Nose All-Purpose Spring Loaded Pliers" cuts through them like butter.
Midwest aviation tin snips, not so much. Slight damaged that tool.
@@manictiger i have a pair of wire snips, but these wires were a little too thick.
@@poortac5568
The Klein Tools one is made of extremely strong steel. It went through nicely. At 40 bucks, it better! I figured I'd stress test them.
You have the answer to the specific question I’ve been searching for, thank you!
Great vibes and instruction quality as well!
anytime! I would suggest the peltor sport rangeguard ear pro over the Howard Leights though. The are smaller and fit way better with a helmet.
@@poortac5568 I’ll look into them, I appreciate you!
A job well done mate, This vid helped me a lot setting up my ear protection on my tactical helmet.
thanks! Glad I could help 😀
Did this mod with a pair of Walker Razors. Same process. Worked flawlessly.
good to know. i have a pair i might try out. 😃
this is the exact video i needed thank you. also you can run your cable through the crown of the helmet taping it to the inside (top) in between the cushions and it actually comes out a lot better.
I wanted the ability to raise the ear pro behind/in top of the helmet. Thanks for the idea 👍
For anyone having issues with the ear pro being loose on the arc adaptor, use JB weld plastic bonder 2 part epoxy on the ends of the wire and into the holes with a toothpick. Once it’s cured, I wrapped the wire and plastic piece on the ear pro with black electrical tape to keep dirt and water out. Seems pretty sturdy for the time being I’ll update if it doesn’t work out. Costs like 7 bucks at wal mart.
good info!
Thank you for the tutorial! Just added an old set of Howards to my new helmet to try out.
anytime! 😀
Answered absolutely every question I had. Thanks!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching 😀
Happy Holidays Poortac556 and viewers. Thank you for the video.
same to you, and you are welcome 😀
This was very helpful for my team wendy exfil ballistic, thanks man!
no prob!
Hey!!!! Thankyou!!! I asked for this like last week! Thanks again!!
no problem 😎
I've been looking at doing something similar but didn't want to have carve up my peltors....awesome video thanx
glad I could help 😀
Awesome stuff. You guys should review peltor knock offs and those ear plug things. See how they stack up to real Howard lights and peltors
Rhett does have a chinese brand knockoff of ear pro with a mic, but I dont remember the name. They do work well so far, with limited testing. Thanks for the suggestion 🇺🇸
Awesome video. Thank you for making it!
anytime 😀
A great breakdown, detailed and thorough vid with the Leights. MUCH appreciated. I think it’s worth just getting an inexpensive 2nd set of Walkers honestly.. THEN carve them up. Nice job though..👍
Thanks! I like the Peltor Sport Rangeguards best. They block out nearly all radio static/interference when transmitting, are smaller and fit under the helmet better when mounted this way. only downside is lower NRR rating
Great video, thanks for sharing.
anytime 👍
I dont have a ballistic Helmet. But this was awesome to watch! Nicely done! Subbed!
thanks for the sub! I try to release a new video every week 👍
@@poortac5568 copy that. You got a new sub here. Really dig your content. 🇺🇸💪👍
Thanks! Really helpful video!
no prob, thanks for watching 😁
Thank you, video was very helpful.
no problem 👍
Thank you!!
Great job, thank you!
anytime! thanks for watching 🇺🇸
Very nice brother🇺🇸 thanks for the help🍻🤘
no prob, thanks for watching 😀
Great content guys! Just subscribed..
Thanks 😀
Thank you so much!!!!
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Very helpful
glad to help 👍
I ran mine in the inside it looks more clean. My helmet is medium/large. I have a large ACH as well made by MSA it's a surplus heet I run my comms with regular band, my pasgt helmet I converted into a high cut is made for outter use comms with arc rails
yeah, they do stick out more if you mount them on the outside. thanks for watching! 😀
I had the idea to do this but didn’t know if it’ll work thanks
no prob 😀
I did this and the Howard’s will slide off because the Pelton notch is oriented opposite of the Howard designed position
Nice video!!!!
thanks!
I did this before watching hoping it would show how to do it without them easily sliding off. The Pelton key position is opposite of Howard’s. Need to twist them or smash a new notch I guess
Thx friend
any time 👍
Hopefully you will upload a budget PTT with helmet and radio.
I have an option now, but there is electronic interference when you transmit, with the Howard Leights. Thats with a standard family 2 way midland radio. Its worse with a HAM or higher power radio. But I will do a video on it soon.
I use Baofeng MURS-V1
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or Baofeng FRS 2W
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(like $10 each and very well rated) neither require a license or call sign rules during conversation, just dont be a jerk, with an adapter to headset with PTT
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and this boom mic goes in Howard Leight just fine. Cords can be long but better too long than too short.
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Took me forever to find the right combo. Diff radio may require a different adapter.
I will add, the boom mic goes into the 3mm jack and wont reach around to your mouth if you have them on such that its in the rear. Maybe there are couplers or extensions that would work to add the length required but they would need to be rigid. I dont know that it matters for the headset to be one way or the other but in this video description he describes putting the wire to the rear, which also means that 3mm jack to the rear. I assume so the wire wraps well around the back of the helmet. That wont work with this boom mic (and I personally found no other that would do) so I suggest routing the wire differently for purposes of this mic and mouting the headset with the 3mm jack in the front.
Good INFO
thanks 😀
I love the memes along the way lol
Thanks! I like to chuckle as I go 😂
i appreciate you
thanks 👍
Looking to mount my Walker razor slims to my helmet, they utilize the same mounts as the Howard Leights from the looks of them. One thing I couldn’t tell from your video is whether the crimped portion of the mount arm that locks the headset in is faced the same on both. The way you slid the arm into the HL bracket rather than finding that sweet spot to get it in makes it seem that it doesn’t fully lock the headset to the arc rail mount.
if does fit like a key (only one way to insert them), it may not have shown that well in the video. They do not lock in as well as the original HL, but they are still quite secure. Im not sure about the walkers, but ive heard they fit as well. You could force it, if its different, but just be as careful as possible, since its plastic.
@@poortac5568 They are loose fitting on the walker's razor headsets. They don't really seem to lock it. Might have to pull the clips off of the arc rails and swap for the OEM razors.
Love the soyjacks, good video
thanks 😀
That's awesome. Just got a bump helmet so I will be doing this. I have a mic attached to my ear pro that attaches to a PTT that I learned how to do from another video. Much obliged! Now if I could just find some super cheap NVG'S lol. So do you still use this set up? How's it been holding up thus far?
I would get the peltor sport rangeguards over the howard leights. They fit better on the helmet, because they are smaller and have cutouts that allow them under the helmet edge as well as allow a proper cheek weld on your rifle. They also block a lot of the static/noise when transmitting on a radio. They seal much better to most peoples ears/head too. But they attach more or less the same way. Unfortunately, I havent found any cheap nvgs. Im looking to try out a lower spec (Bravo) PVS-14 soon though and will make a review, when I get them. I have a few newer videos on my current helmet setup if you are interested.
I just did this today and a cheapo short pair of Walmart bolt cutters will work faster and easier than a dremel 😉
true 👍
Thank you...so much
no prob 😀
@@poortac5568 just got mine attached. Now i just gotta throw em on my brain bucket and ill be good to go. Thank you so much
@@joeyb7408 glad you got it attached. 🇺🇸
@@poortac5568 thanks dad!
Good stuff! Just wondering what counterweight/battery pouch you're running.
Its a knockoff, off Amazon. They are all made by the same company but this is the one I ordered. amzn.to/3RRjEh7
Hey do you know if any ear protection that makes it so you can not only hear sounds, but hear what direction the sound is coming from. Vs omnidirectional how most ear protection you find nowadays like Razors and such for hunting. Thanks!
The howard leights allow you to hear where sounds are coming from
4:52 the meme gets me
I like to think it doesnt describe me but, deep down, I know it does 😂
Awesome vid. Howard Leight makes an adapter like the peltor one. Any reason you went with peltor vs. the Howard leight version?
Thanks 😀 I cant find the Howard Leight one you are talking about. Do you have a link to one? I went with the peltors over other companies because they seemed the most sturdy.
@@poortac5568 My bad. They’re not by Howard Leight but they’re made for the Howard Leight headset. Here’s the link: www.amazon.com/HEARING-TACTICAL-Adapter-Shooting-Earmuffs/dp/B08CXJQ8DG/ref=pd_ybh_a_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RRFFZ34ZNDX4ZEC0ZQ9Q
@@gtrscort1 the part on those that mounts to the helmet are not as sturdy as the authentic peltors (the linked ones are a knockoff). The small plastic parts are just something extra, that you dont need. You will have to cut up the ear pro anyway, so I dont worry about also cutting the metal with a dremel. you could skip the dremel part if you did get the knock offs though.
Hey man, two questions for you that I can’t seem to find the answers to. 1. Does the peltor adapter fit Axil Trckrs? 2. How do you have your light mounted around the adapter on your helmet with out it getting in the way?
Those Axil look too thick/big to use with a helmet. I could be wrong though. I honestly dont know if the peltor adapters would fit them though.
I made my own velcro pic rail helmet attachment point initially. Ive since upgraded to an ECHO arms helmet pic rail section, that velcros on.
You actually don't need to cut anything but the fabric because you can just unclip them twist the black clip of then snap the clip back n the earmuffs
I didnt want to risk snapping the plastic
Do you have to depress the tab on the headset mount or do you just force it past the notches to where you want it?
I used a small armorers hammer with a nylon head. I just tapped it over. The small locking tab will pop up and down without damage. So force it, but gently 👍
any advice on how to make them fit tighter so they can seal properly?
gel ear cups help, but if you have a strong/boney jaw bone, you may not get a good seal. For me, they were too low on my head when mounted on my helmet. Id suggest buying a set of Peltor Rangeguard Sports. They fit wayyyy better on the helmet and over my ears. Mainly because they are smaller and sit higher. Their NRR rating might be lower though, but I double up at the range anyway. I have a video on those as well, but they also work better with radios by blocking out transmission static/squealing.
@@poortac5568 I have a strong jaw and son gel cups I think I am f’d ahhaha
The notch on the mount gets locked into place really tight how do I lift the piece to slide mount.
I used a flathead screwdriver.
I got the TNVC brand and just realized that they don’t actually “pop” away from your head they only swivel. And they were $70. And they always pop out of the actual arc rail when I try and put the helmet on 😡
Unity Tactical makes some that are always tight. They are a spring steel wire, I think. The only issue people have with the 3m Peltor Adaptors is they can pop away from your head when jumping out of planes. You should see if you can return yours, because thats a bad design if they wont stay tight to the head.
@@poortac5568 what I have are the unity mark ones, is what I should have said in my OP. They do stay tight to my head, they don’t however pop away from my head which makes it easy to take helmet on and off if that makes sense. I also used to have an L/XL helmet and recently just got a M/L and it fits much better. And the headphones seem to not pop off of the arc rail so far
@@themilkdud8515 that makes sense. I wonder if they make different sizes for different helmets? Thats why I went with the 3M over the unity. I was worried they wouldnt be tight enough on my skinny face 😂
Great video, looking at doing this, one question, do the arc adapters swivel up so the ear pro is out of the way? Thanks!
yes, they will swivel out of the way. thanks for watching 🇺🇸
Can you post a link to the peltor mounts please
www.amazon.com/3M-Peltor-ARC-Right-Attachments/dp/B00745WSZE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=peltor+3m+adapter&qid=1608822138&sr=8-3
i hope this works with my gloryfire muffs once im done cutting my pasgt into a fast helmet
thats a lot of modifying, good luck 😀
cutting your helmet compromises it.
Do you think this works for Walker's Razor?
Ive heard people say they fit on the peltor arc rail adapter, but they are much bigger and will probably be too low on your face when attached.
Have you tried or heard of anyone trying to mount the ops core helmet rail mount to the impact ear pro?
if you are talking about the AMP rail attachment, I think it is proprietary.
I found an accessory that allows you to use the AMP attachment with other headsets. It’s called the AXL RAC.
@@perceptivestrategics3657 that is interesting. I have switched over from the howard leights to the Peltor Rangeguards. They block out radio static/interference when transmitting. But im glad to see that a company made an adaptor. it looks like it would be a good option for someone who is using comms with the howards leights
Is there enough wire so that you can pivot the headset to the rear of the helmet?
Ive replaced mine with Peltor Rangeguards, which fit a lot better. They can rotate to the rear of the helmet. I think the Howard Leights could as well (but I honestly dont remember), depending on where you taped the wire to the helmet.
Will this also work for the walker razor ear pro?
It should, but the walkers are bigger. You may not be able to get them high enough, depending on if you have a hi cut helmet or a maritime cut helmet (with more ear pro space). But they will fit on the Peltor Arc Rail Adapters in the same way as the Howard Leights and Peltor Rangeguards.
would this work for Walkers Razor? want to get a longfri and not have to but Howards since I already own the Razors
Ive heard that the wire size is the same. So in theory the peltor adapters will fit the Walker Razor. But since the Walkers are larger, I dont know if they would fit on the helmet itself (it might interfere with the helmet). If you had the higher cut maritime helmet, it probably would, but Im not sure with the standard high cut. I personally would just get a set of howard leights that you can chop up and keep the razors for regular use.
Yes it works exactly the same. I have walkers on my HHV
Everyone should be aware that HHV now uses an M-Loc rail. In order to use the Peltor clips you'll need an adapter to convert them from the ARC mounting base.
I would just buy an ear adapter from HHV if I had one of their helmets. The Peltor mount already sticks out way to far imo.
Unfortunate this isn't reversible cuz I really like these ear pro
correct, this is a permanent modification.
Do you have any issues with the impact sports sitting a little too low on the ears?
yes. I ended up putting the Peltor Sport RangeGuard ear pro on my helmet and they fit way better than the howard leights 👍 the HL sat too low and were too big to push up higher. The peltors feel like they were made for helmet use. They also block most radio “squealing” when transmitting, which is very nice.
@@poortac5568 thank you! And you also had to cut up the padding on the peltor ones correct?
@@kosmolineking4327 kind of, but the wiring is in a separate “cloth” sleeve thats attached to the headband. So you can actually put the Peltors back together if you wanted to (in theory). The peltors ear cups also detach differently/easier. I dont believe you have to cut the metal wires 👍
How do you keep the ear cups from sliding all the way out of the clips once it's all done? Left side is real loose and sometimes comes off completely.
Mine were tight enough to stay on. You could coat the metal wire with hot glue or something else to add thickness to the wire.
@@poortac5568 thanks, I'll give that a shot
@@nooncedid you ever give the glue a try? Having the same issue they just want to fall out.
@@agunner6262 haven't yet. Just been careful not to bring them all the way out but it's kind of annoying.
@@noonce JB weld plastic bonder 2 part epoxy works. Just tried it
Put mine on my helmet. I cant get it to snap down because my head is too wide. But my head is too skinny for the protection to work all the way out. If that makes sense. Any thoughts?
Sounds like your helmet might be too small? If you dont want to buy a new helmet, you might have to get a constant tension helmet adapter instead of the snap Peltor one. HHV makes one, but I dont know if they make an ARC rail version or just the M-Lok version.
found it - www.hardheadveterans.com/products/rail-adapter-kit-rak-fits-arc-peltor-3m-and-other-helmet-headsets
its $50, but this is the only solution I can think of that would be a (hopefully) easy fix.
@@poortac5568 you guys are awesome
Hey. I've used the method You have showned and I've been having problems with the sealment.
I have an Emerson bump helmet and a knockoff peltor mount for arc rail, and I'm wondering how to fix that issue.
another guy had the same issue. his Peltor ARC rail adapters didnt have enough pressure. Is that your issue also?
@@poortac5568 No i don't think so it sits really tight on the rail.
@@polishpepe3685 I mean, is there a lot of pressure on your head, from the ear pro, when the Peltor adaptors are in the inward locked position. The other guy said the Amazon clone he got didnt push inward hard enough to seal the ear pro.
@@poortac5568 Yeah I think that might be the case.
@@polishpepe3685 you will probably have to buy the real Peltor ARC rail adapters then 👍
I use an earpiece. Do I really need these?
If the earpiece is also ear/hearing protection, then no. But I prefer war pro that doesnt go in my ear, its painful over time.
pop the black plastic arms off of the headset, then you can remove them from the wire, no cutting, then look where the flat spot is on the wire and make a similar flat spot on the new wire, put the black plastic ends on the new wire and now they won't fall off and you won't get stabbed in the head with the wires when you try and take your helmet off. you are welcome.
If they come out by just pulling what’s the point of cutting
you can just pull them out, but you risk breaking the plastic parts. The metal wires look like a key on the ends, they have to be twisted to come out the correct way.
@@poortac5568 thank you for the clarification
Why didnt you just take off the wire sleeves on the side of the ear cups and remove the wires that way?
I have with a set of Peltor Range guards, but I was afraid of breaking the plastic tabs on the howard leights. The Howard Leights tabs are more difficult to remove than most other ear pro ive tried this on. If you break that plastic, you may as well trash the ear pro.
Link to that helmet?
botach.com/longfri-level-iiia-ballistic-helmets/
yay now i donrt have to buy sordins to mount earpro to my arc rails
thx dude that really helps
you earned yourself a subscriber with that amazing info pal
@@evoklax 😎 no problem, thanks for the Sub 😀
@@poortac5568 no problemmmooooo
You don’t need to cut the muffs off they pop off
true, but you can break the plastic that way. you have to destroy the headband anyway, so I played it safe.
You know you don't have to cut the metal part right? With a little strength you can pop off the plastic adapter that goes from the metal arm to the ear pro ear cup. Then just rotate the plastic to remove from the metal arm.
Also pro tip. Put the adapter on the helmet first before you put the ear cups on.
@@TreyMorgan-wn8dk I didnt want to risk breaking the plastic tabs 👍
@@poortac5568 If you get a pair of needle nose you can pinch the snap tabs to remove the bracket then you can easily slide off the plastic part the metal bar goes into. I just don't understand that logic of cutting the metal headband to prevent breaking the headset 🙃 I just wonder how many people here destroyed their ear pro from watching this 😥
@@TreyMorgan-wn8dk you still run the risk of breaking those brittle tabs. Id rather break the headband wires, that Ill never use again 🤷♂️
Question: BUBBA: why didn’t you just take off the Blk plastic clips off the Howard’s and not cut anything up?? Once you would have done that you do the same thing but you would still have old headset to use
I was afraid the plastic would snap, making them unusable on a helmet or on the headband. The plastic feels brittle, so I didnt want to mess with it. That is what I did when I did the same things with Peltor Rangeguards ear pro. They are a lot easier to remove, without risk of snapping the plastic.
how to mount video....oh, I did that off camera. ???
The mount only attaches one way, it slides into the dovetail 🤷♂️
I’d like to them on when you’re finished. Show me that pretty face!
You gotta purdy mouth 😂
Couldn’t you just pull the metal pieces out without cutting them off?
you can, but there is a risk of cracking or messing up the plastic tabs, which make the entire headset unusable. Since you cant really reuse the metal wire, I cut it instead.
There's a screw on the side to remove them without cutting lol also locks them like they were
its not a screw, its a plastic tension piece. you can pop the piece off of it, but i tend to be over cautious and went the route where I knew I wouldnt snap off the plastic. Making it unusable.
You LITERALLY could have just pulled the cups off the wire without having to cut them with a Dremel lmao. I thought I was having a stroke trying to figure out why you had to cut them lmfao
You could, but you risk breaking the plastic tabs on the ear pro. Id rather sacrifice the metal band that risk breaking the actual ear pro.
Also you mounted them backwards. The mic Jack port is flipped towards the rear. It needs to be facing forward so you need to flip the cups to the other side but I’m sure you know that by now
wrong, the mics face forward. the aux port should be in the rear. its all on their website. feel free to look.
Saw the title, just here to say: No.
Some people are not rich 🤷♂️
Thanks
anytime 😀