Making an Emulsion | Hand Stir vs Homogenizer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2020
- In this video I compare making an emulsion by stirring by hand to using a homogenizer. Watch to see the entire emulsion process and the differences seen with the final products.
Homogenizer www.misceo-cosmetics.com/gb/ I have a 110V 250P.
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Thanks for sharing this! I am looking at purchasing this same model homogenizer, so very happy to see this model in action!
Hello, where di you purchase your Misceo 250P homogenizer?
@@edinelliedinelli2390 I bought mine directly from Misceo. You can visit their website and contact them for a purchase order. I'm in the US and they are on France so it required a wire transfer to them, but once paid I received it quickly. Hope this helps
@@missylee5 Thank you so much!
Thanks for sharing, this will really help my decision I buying one.
thanks for you effort, what about air bubbles in both?
I get same result as Homogenizer when shaking my similar mixtures. I use glass with tin top - letting air vent using my thumb.
brilliant, I have just received mine, and am trying it out today
Hello Dawn, where did you purchase your Misceo Homogenizer 250P?. Did you get it from Misceo website?. How much did you pay for shipping?. Thank you
Hi. It's been a couple of years now from when you posted. How did you go with this product. Are you still happy with it? thank you. I would like to know your opinion if you don't mind.
LOVELY ♥️♥️♥️
I didn't know homogenizer came as handheld(thought it only came in machine format)
Does it produce "medium shear" ???
Hmm... I think this may be handy in my kitchen. I'd love to try it for mayonnaise.
thank you it was great.
Have you tried an ultrasonic homogenizer vs the misceo stator/blade homogenizer? Just seeing if there is any incremental benefit for going to an even finer/smaller particle sizes. Nice video.
Thanks.
Never tried an ultrasonic one.
Thank You!!
I need one in myself. It looks like a creamy milk. It made hand stirred look incomplete like it was ready to start separating.
Thank you for posting this. Can I ask if you have tried using the Misceo without tilting it at an angle? I’m wondering whether this would put less air in. Thank you.
Yes, but it functions better at an angle. It’s purpose is not to incorporate air, you hold it beneath the surface during its entire use.
@@kandacesilvolaThank you. I'm curious because you describe the volume at 6:37 as being greater in the homogenized one, with a texture as being like marshmallow, and so it seems like the device is adding air into the preparation. I guess there is no way to take out the air or prevent it from getting in?
@@michaelhilson3699 it does not add air, it has to be at an angle to operate properly and breakdown the ingredients so fine that they absorb into skin instead of sitting on top of skin
@@dawnmiskin8487 There’s already air inside it, that’s the air it uses to be able to do it’s job. Without it, there will just be a suction action at the bottom which would create a whirlpool at the top to get air.
Very interesting, I actually prefer the glossiness of the hand stirred emulsion.
Thank you for your videos. Let me ask you something... How do you know what emulsifier to choose for?
It depends on the type of formula you want to make. Is it w/o or o/w, do you have a lot of cool down ingredients that are oil soluble? Maybe you want a cold process emulsifier if you do. How large is your oil phase? Some emulsifiers take a large oil phase, others only take a small oil phase. What is the texture you are wanting to achieve? Runny or thin or sprayable, or thick and rich? Look at the different emulsifiers on the market and read their descriptions. There are so many to choose from. Get a few that match what you want to achieve and try them out. ⚗️👩🏼🔬
@@kandacesilvola Thank you very much for answer to me. I'm trying to make a double w/o/w nanoemulsion but so far I have not been able to make even the first emulsion. Kind regards!
Thank you so much for sharing love your videos ❤ can you please tell us how much this homogenizer cost please 🙏 .
I would contact the manufacturer directly and ask for a price list. Currency exchange rates are always changing so I would ask them so you get the most accurate up to date pricing. They are based out of France. The company is misceo
Thank you for your video. Where did you purchase your Misceo Homogenizer 250P? Did you get it directly from Misceo website?. How much did you pay for shipping (fron France)?. Thank you
Hi, the information is in the description. Contact the company directly for a price list, tell them exactly what you want to purchase and they will give you a quote with shipping cost. They accept payment through wire transfer.
@@kandacesilvola Thank you so much!
How much does the homogenizer 250P you bought please? I reached out to them, but never heard back ty
Thank you for sharing. What is the minimum quantity that can be homogenized with this one ?
You can contact the manufacturer for technical information, I’ve linked their site in the description box. This model is recommended for 1-4 L however I was able to make a 250 mL lotion. I think you could get away with a slightly smaller amount but not by much.
Stupid question but I am frustrated an my work: do you say "2 mins" at high shear or just doing and see/feel if the emulsion is done? All my samples are separating after a few hours...was long at home (maternity leave). But I work with a SOP and there is "2 mins" written and much high shear rate....asked colleques...they are just doing it and it works....
Hi! It's hard to say without knowing your formula, emulsifier etc. With any emulsifier, always consult the usage rate, they are all different. Also, what temperature your phases are at when combining them is important. Some emulsifiers do well with high shear and others do not. The equipment you use to emulsify also makes a difference. I don't know if you've had formal training but I would recommend checking out Formula Botanica. They are having a free masterclass right now and have lives discussing all these topics. Refer to my recent video on the masterclass and you can use my link in that description to access the masterclass. Happy formulating!
Why do you need to heat the liquid first?
I totally like it. Is it available in the UK?
I purchased the homogenizer directly from the company which is located in France. Their website is listed in the description, contact them for more info :)
@@kandacesilvola thanks. I think I'll have to settle with dynamic
Can you please explain if there is any specific reason for the temperature that you have taken?
I take the temperature of my formulas as they heat up. I want them to reach a certain temperature based on manufacturer recommendations. It’s usually around 70-80 degrees Celsius. I want the oil phase and water phase to be the same temperature when I combine them. Then, as it cools I continue to take the temperature so I know when to add the cool down phase and any temperature sensitive ingredients. That’s usually around 40 degrees Celsius or less.
would this be good for making a sunscreen with zinc oxide in it? I'm trying to figure out the best way to make sure the zinc is dispersed properly for optimal coverage
Check out the Institute of Personal Care Science TH-cam videos about sunscreen formulations. It’s best to purchase pre-dispersed ingredients for the best dispersion and effectiveness/safety.
I can see the one with homogenizer didnt seem to have soaping effect. probably because the homogenizer allows for the molecules to get really small. im sold on homogenizer. i think i will get one and get rid off my stick blender.
Hi, did you add water for the remaining gram difference? It didn’t add up to 250g
Hi, the formula adds up to 250g. Maybe my numbers were not clear to read?
Hi
Thanks for showing, very interesting.
The temperature was 75 C ?
Is it a water in oil emulsion?
What was the emulsifier?
Greetings from Peter
Hallo
Danke für das zeigen, sehr Interessant.
Die Temperatur war 75 C ?
Es handelt sich um eine Wasser in öl Emulsion?
Was war der Emulgator?
Grüße von Peter
Hi! The formula is listed at the very beginning of the video.
What is the actual difference between a homogenizer and an immersion blender, cause they look very similar in appearance, use, and other things. Also can you use an immersion blender for making emulsions?
You can use an immersion blender. The difference between the two is that an immersion blender can incorporate air into your formula. Also, a homogenizer gives better stability to your product because it’s able to decrease the size of the particles.
Hi! What's the reason for setting the homogenizer on 2 instead of a higher speed? I've noticed one of my emulsions separating and was wondering if setting the homogenizer on a higher speed could be the reason why.
You want to set the correct speed so it doesn’t introduce air into the formula. Also, I don’t want the formula to fly out of the beaker. Best to start low and work your way up as needed. Make sure you check the specifications with every emulsifier you use. Some emulsifiers can only take a small amount of high shear, others require it. Too much shear can break some emulsions.
What thermometer are you using?
It’s an infrared thermometer by Elekcity, lasergrip 1080
Hi. Homogenizers are best to be used in batches that are over 300 grams. Olivem 1000 is an oil in water emulsifier, how come you added the water to the oil? I know it can be done how you did it but the consistency will be different. You did not use a preservative either.
I’m not using this, it’s an experiment, so no need to use a preservative. Every homogenizer differs in batch size, this size works for the homogenizer I have. There are plenty of styles that homogenize and much smaller batch sizes and others that require a much larger batch size. Every emulsifier is different, so with Olivem1000 I add water to the oil. Other emulsifiers may require a different method, it depends on each individual emulsifier not whether it’s O/W or W/O. Happy formulating.
@@kandacesilvola very interesting. I did that work olivem 1000 to see the difference and I like the consistency of the o/w best. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Do you make body and face lotion
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From where can i buy tthis homogenizer and what is the cost
Link in description :) you need to contact them directly for a product/price sheet.
@@kandacesilvola hi i need this homogenizer 250 P
how do i buy it in the U.S.
Link in the description. You will need to contact them directly.
Is it cheap poor people?