How to Make an O/W Emulsion with Lecithin | Beautiful Lotion/Serum Base | Formula Included
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- Following specific steps, it’s possible to make an oil in water emulsion with lecithin. Lecithin typically makes water in oil emulsions, but I followed instructions I found to make an O/W emulsion. Watch to see what happened.
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This is such a great video. Thank you for the pen and paper illustration, it really helped emulsify the information into my brain 😄
I followed your formulation. Took all of your advice and guess what? It worked!!! You are wonderful.
Yay!
3:00-4:00, when she explains the real differences between O/W and W/O, is really helpful.
a bit like the difference between milk and butter. A milk is 0/W, a butter is W/O
Listed from inside to outside. W/O/W.
Interesting, you hydrated the lecithin. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience and knowledge....❤️❤️❤️
Such an amazing video! Thank you so much for this!
Is it food grade?
And can i use essential oil to emusify?
can you use this lotion on your face?
Thank you for the video, great explanation! What is the shelf life of the lotion you created. Thanks!
Thanks, it depends on the preservative you use and other factors. So research those factors and it’ll give you an idea of the shelf life. To get an accurate one requires stability testing from a lab.
Excellent job! so thorough and love your o/w and w/o segment. I'd love to see you do a dedicated video on that! subbed
Great video ! you explained it so clearly.
What if we dont put zanthangum
Is there an emulsifier that you think would do well in a spray bottle? And very light preservative? Particularly for fermented or non fermented rice and fruit peel
I'd consider absorbic acid
Thank you for the formula, it works really well!! Just want to check with you Dr. Kandace, if I want a very liquid formula so that it is easier to be sprayed out of the spray bottle, can I just omit the xanthan gum completely? Will it effect the stability? Thank you...
I’m glad it’s working out well for you! I haven’t tried it without a gum so I can’t answer whether it’s stable. It will be very fluid though. Try it out and see what happens. Maybe with no gum and again with a reduced amount of gum or even a different type of gum. Happy formulating!
This was so helpful! Thank You!
Please share a video of cream foundation
Hi Kandace! How’s the stability? Does this eventually separate? Have you tried heating both phases with this method? Thanks
It’s very stable. I haven’t gotten any separation. When I’ve heated different phases with this technique I haven’t needed to increase it beyond about 50C so I don’t know how it behaves in higher temps.
Very lovely. Can i add lactic acid, aloe vera extract, kojic dip, niacinamide to it?
This was a super basic formula. Make it your own with whatever actives, oils and ingredients suit you. 🌸
Like making lotion, although I use emulsifying wax, by weight in percent but I heat water items n oil blends to same temp then pour n stir or use stick blender when cool enough for preservative and essential oils at required temp blend a little more n pour into sterilize bottles...I let residual steam out before capping don't use more then 80% water.
This is great can't wait to try it. Question I'm making body butters with Aloe Vera juice instead of the water. The formulation is primarily butter and oil with 36% being the aloe juice. Would this process work for it? As in would a O/W emulsion work better than an W/O emulsion? Would I keep the xantham gum range about the same at 0.4% and add glycerin? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and thanks for great video!
The primary difference with w/o vs o/w is that w/o will repel water, and o/w will disperse and dissolve in water. Lecithin can create both of these emulsions however the oil% and procedure is very different. There are many emulsifiers on the market that are either w/o or o/w and they have their own specifications for the usage rate, the % of oils they can emulsify etc. The only way I have made a o/w emulsion with lecithin is using the method I showed using these percentages. It has a small oil phase. It is also very thin and needs gums to thicken. It seems that your formula would have a very large oil phase and would end up being a w/o emulsion (using lecithin). I hope I explained that well. Keep formulating and experimenting. Maybe you’ll create something truly unique and amazing with your trials. Happy formulating.
Thank you for the video, very informative. Can you please tell what machine you are using for mixing and where we can buy it. Thank you so much
It’s a Misceo. Made for cosmetics by the brand Dynamix. They are based out of France. You can contact them from their website, request a price list and buy through them. I had to wire transfer money to France for the purchase.
@@kandacesilvola Oh Okay, appreciate you sharing the information. Thank you so much 🙏🏻
This a very nice base formulation. How can l work with this formula for made liposome emulsión.Thanks
thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us..
i have a question if i added gelatin instead of gum, and flavor instead of essential oil with lot's of sugar would it becomes edible jello ?
I honestly have no idea.
Thank you for this. I'm having some trouble with pilling. I use completely natural ingredients for a oil in water emulsion. I use konjac root and arrowroot too. If I allow it to sit on the skin, it does eventually absorb, but if I rub very much it begins to roll off. Any suggestions would be great
Hi! Oh, I hate when that happens! You have to play around with your ingredients. Keep it super simple at first, see what results you get. I don’t get pilling with this formula. Then it’s a tedious matter of making the formula again with one additional ingredient at a time and checking the results. I have a feeling it may have something to do with the arrowroot powder, or what gum you are using. Good luck!
@@kandacesilvola thank you so much for the reply. I'll take your advice and see what happens.
Hi, first and foremost, let me say that this is by far one of the best video on using lecithin as an emulsifying agent. I have a question on the preservative, can I substitute Geogard ECT with Optiphen Plus ? Optiphen Plus works best for pH of less than 6.
Thanks! Use your preservative of choice. Adjust the percentages and pH as needed.
Is this a lamellar emulsion ?
does the lecithin powder work the same as the liquid?
I haven’t worked with lecithin powder, so I don’t know how it works in comparison to liquid lecithin.
@@kandacesilvola thanks
Hi, thanks for the video. I'm a newbie. I have a question to ask, if you or anyone can offer some advice, I'd appreciate it. I am trying to make a solution that consists of a herbal extract using glycerin as the solvent and a water solution containing dissolved minerals, vitamins and other molecules. The final product should be a water-soluble medication for aquarium fishes which is poured into the tank during treatment. It's a small-scale homemade product that I envision to release. Logically, I should be making an oil-in-water emulsion for this so that the product is easily dispersed within the tank water. Will I be able to mix the two together by simply using lecithin as the binder? (Without xanthan gum, preservative or any other substances). And secondly, if I use lecithin powder instead of liquid lecithin, do I have to stir longer or are the two equally efficient? Thank you!
Wouldn't the emulsifier machine destroy your xanthan gum polymer, reducing it's gelling capability?
Xanthan gum stabilizes O/W emulsions and is also used as a thickener. The emulsion reaches its final consistency about 24 hours later. Did you get this information from a source? I’d like to read about it. Using a homogenizer with an emulsion with xanthan gum or similar is a pretty typical method for emulsion formulation and manufacturing.
@@kandacesilvola I guess the short duration doesn't destroy enough of the polymer to have an effect; homogenizers are high-shear, they will slice long polymers into pieces. Btw, I read you want to add your lecithin to the oil phase and let it stir for 30min, then slowly add your oil + lecithin phase into hot, stirring water phase. This method will create emulsions with smaller diameter particles. Source: "Formation of Oil-in-Water Emulsions from Natural Emulsifiers Using Spontaneous Emulsification: Sunflower Phospholipids" by Komaiko, Sastrosubroto, et al, ACS Publication. See Figure 4(a). 50um for 100% of your lecithin starting in aqueous, 15um for 100% of lecithin starting in oil phase. You only want to do 100% in aqueous when using powerful machines like sonicators, maybe homogenizers work too? The down side of the study is no use of gelling polymers.
Thank you so much for sharing
I’m really longing for this information
I want to make something similar to this for lotion. My question is, it looks thinner then I would like, would another ingredient help to thicken this or would more emulsifier or more xanthan gum make it thicker? I heard you say in another video that you love cetyl alcohol, would you recommend to use that in this formula?
Yes, it is very thin. You can try different types of gums or a blend as each change viscosity differently. I haven’t experimented with adding cetyl alcohol so that would be something with looking into. Happy formulating.
Mam can any other oil be used instead of safflower oil
Yes, any oil will work or combination of them. Happy formulating!
Mam please share soy lecithin powder turn into liquid for cosmetics😊☺
Please shre recipe😔😔😔
How much water did you use to hydrate the lecithin? Can the lecithin be heated with the oil if i am using a butter?
Hi, I break down the formula and explain every step in the video.
@@kandacesilvola 1:2 ratio okay what about the heat? I dont hear you talk about that?
Yes, you can heat it. You can always make a small batch and experiment with different ways to make a formula. Maybe you’ll even come up with something new and innovative along the way. Happy formulating!
Can i use this emulsion to make a cream foundation thanks
I’ve never made makeup, sorry.
If I wanted to use this lecithin as a co-emulsifier, how much would I need? Would I add the same amount to the formula along with another emulsifier like ecomulse or BTMS?
That’s hard to answer because it depends on what outcome you’d like to achieve. Make a simple emulsion with just your main emulsifier to the consistency you desire. Then make another with a set amount of your co-emulsifier, maybe 1%. See how it compares to the original formula. Then make a third formula with less or more of the co-emulsifier and see how it compares. Make sure the batch size is small, no more than 100g and the basic formula is simple (one oil, water, emulsifier and preservative). When you find a balance you like with the emulsifier and co-emulsifier you can begin adding in more ingredients.
Good luck! Write back with how things turned out!
Hi Doc. Would it be possible to prepare an emulsion WITHOUT WATER, with preservatives, leaving it ready to be dissolved as needed?
That’s a tricky question. There are emulsifiers that you can add to an oil phase like Cromolient SCE. When using in an anhydrous product like a body scrub or body oil, it will turn milky when water is added, lotion like. So you can play around with emulsifiers like that that are self emulsifying. If you are wanting more than just water in your water phase like actives, extracts, glycerites etc, you can do that as well and make a more concentrated formula that you can spread on wet skin. That would take a lot of work using the correct emulsifier and percentages of ingredients to make a product with right consistency, texture, effectiveness and stability.
If you are wanting to make a large batch as your base then add water phase as needed, that would require the right emulsifier and consider whether you need to heat the water and oil phases to emulsify. But, there’s nothing like experimenting and trying it out on your own and perhaps discovering a new innovative type of product or process.
Good luck!
@@kandacesilvola pure gold, ty! Happy new year!
cant i just ad powder lecithin and the vitamin in water/oil ? why do i need a emulsifier when lecithin is one?
Yes, lecithin is the emulsifier I am using in this formula. This video is showing how you can use lecithin as an O/W emulsifier by hydrating it first. Lecithin is typically used as a w/o emulsifier. I have a video of using it as a w/o emulsifier in another video which shows that process too.
@@kandacesilvola thanks for reply! Could i ask you, if you would get GHK cu powder, and make it with apricot oil + lecithin as a emulsifier, how would you mix it? is glycerine and xanthing gum really nessesary?
The xanthan gum is used to thicken the formula and the glycerin is a humectant. The formula would be very thin without a gum to thicken it. You can add the peptide to the formula without the xanthan and glycerin but it won’t have the same consistency. It will be very watery/very fluid. There are other gums and thickeners you can use instead to change the consistency of the formula.
@@kandacesilvola thanks! cause i want to avoid everything that is possible toxic
is glycerin a perservative? is that needed you feel like? have you mixed niacinamide + ghk in the same solution?
If the lecithin is in powder form, can i take like 1-3 grams and mix it with water, some say warm is needed? and then ad the ghk, and then ad the solution in oil, correct?
@@stefanallard3084 hello. Glycerin is not a preservative, it is a humectant. It is actually one of the best skin care ingredients out there as it is very moisturizing, helps remove blemishes and acne, fights skin diseases and is anti-aging. I actually encourage you to use some in your lotions. While it can be derived from vegetable oils, or animal oils, the safer type is the vegetable glycerin.
Can you put a link to the homogenizer ? Thanks 😊
www.misceo-cosmetics.com/gb/
@@kandacesilvola they have few of the series you bought. Can you tell me the exact one ? Thank you so much. You are so helpful 😃
250p
@@kandacesilvola thank you ,🙏🏼😊
How did you figure out the grams from the percentages? Need help on all the math
Hi Crystal. Your percent always adds up to 100, so always double check that first. Next you need to know the size of your batch. For a batch of 250 g you multiply the batch size by the percent in decimal form. 20% = .20 , 50% = .50. You basically just move your decimal point over to the left 2 digits. So 20% of 250 is 250 x .20 which equals 50 g. You can double check your work at the end by adding up all the grams and making sure it is the same as your batch size. I hope this helps! 📝🤗
The problem I'm having, is I don't know how much my products weigh per fluid oz which is what my recipe is measured by. So I'm assuming I'll have to know how much a fluid oz of each item in my recipe weighs?
Let me reword that. After converting to grams, don't you have to find the density of each ingredient, since some are heavier than others? I made lotion earlier and converted the percentages to grams. I created my own recipe (following your steps) to fit in a 2oz container. I weighed each ingredient (the grams I got from the conversion from percentages) and ended up with 5 times more than 2 oz once said and done. Is it because I didn't figure the density of each ingredient?
You don’t have to determine the density of each ingredient. A 1 oz container is roughly 30g. Once you’ve made a formula you’ll be more familiar with it, what volume it will fill etc. volume and weight are different. We will weigh in g then label the container we put it in in weight (g and or oz). However, sometimes you can put 30 g of a formula in a 1 oz bottle and sometimes you’ll only be able to put 25 g in the same 1 oz bottle. The bottle size is based on the volume 1 oz of water occupies, but you’ll be putting something different than water in the bottle, so the same 30 g of a formula may not all fit in a 30 g size container. It’s trial and error.
great job, thank you
Can carbomer be added to get like a gel cream?
I’m sorry, I haven’t tried so I can’t answer.
Preservative name?
If you watch my video, that’s explained.
At what point we can know that lecithin is completely mixed with water
thank you so much
Wath ist lecithine emulsfiler ,,insekt, yes -No
Most from soy or sunflower.
Thank you for explaining! What emulsion is better for rinse conditioner and leave-in conditioner Is it bad to do o/w for fine hair.
I haven’t dived into haircare formulas yet, but I do know you want to use a cationic emulsifier for them. Formula Botanica has a haircare course if you’d like to really learn about haircare.
Great question! I stumbled in here looking for info on how to make a simple hair spritz of oil, water and a couple of essential oils... had no idea I'd get a whole chemistry class lol. Thank you! @Rustic Ranch Remedies