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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ต.ค. 2024
- This conversation will trigger if you defeat Kagha and other druid members in Emerald Grove
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Tav: they started it
Halsin: understandable, have a nice day
It also implies that he knew kagha was sort of a bad choice as first druid in the grove given her actions without tav's intervention
I like to think its Kahga's nature that has him believing it was self defense lol @Sagethree
Defending yourself from predators is part of nature.
😂😂😂
Tav: "I killed your friends."
Halsin: "EXPLAIN YOURSELF NOW! YOU RABID BLOODTHIRSTY DOG!"
Tav: "I defended myself."
Halsin: "Okay person I just met. I'll believe you."
welcome to incredibly principled people
I think it's just because it's believable to him. The druids were falling from their ways long before he even left for the Nightsong.
I mean, he left Kagha in charge... he shouldn’t be too surprised.
@@IreneSaltini fr he even says sm like "yeah i should have known not to leave her in charge" when you tell him that she was being a corrupt stinker
That's druids' belief. Dead is a part of life. You can kill for protecting yourself.
Im surprised there was no persuasion or deception roll lmao, hes just like “source?” Tav: “trust me bro” 😂
He knows Kagha is "more venomous than a snake" as Gale so wonderfully put it, so I imagine he can totally see her doing something like this the moment he's gone.
😂😂😂
That would be neat if it required a roll, unless you use the Shadow Druid note from the swamp, in which case you just gaslight him into thinking the same thing he says about them losing their way.
Yeah, it should definitely carry the risk of losing "Daddy Halsin" later in game if you murder the Grove! 😂
"Explain yourself!!"
"Well one of them was about to murder a child, and while others were against it they did nothing to stop her. Oh, and i asked for healing and she lied to me and tried to kill me instead."
😂😂 those are all good points!!!
ohhh so she tries to kill us? i ended her life when i got the choice in dialogues (cos it was obvious she was genocidal maniac)
@@Yusuf-ok5rk Nah, Kagha doesn't try to kill you (at least not without you provoking her in some way or another) or promise you healing. That's Nettie. Depending on how you interact with her, she'll either poison you and you have to convince her you'll kill yourself if you start turning for her to give you antidote, or promise you'll kill yourself if you start turning, or insist you'll find another way only for her to try to kill you.
This in spite of a hag being their next door neighbor who can remove (normal) tadpoles, 'cause I can't imagine them not knowing about Ethel. It's just that she's a hag, and the mushroom circle keeping her alive isn't anywhere near the grove so they can't exactly kill her, so they just leave her be and hope her hanging around their grove and spying out occasional victims will be the worst she does.
Ethel is in the grove in disguise, so they clearly don't know. Braindead takes in the comments from multiple people who don't pay attention@@ezekielbaskerville2710
a perfect example of teh game not letting you say the things you would be and should be saying
Nah, but angry Halsin hits different. Tell me I’m wrong.
Yeah uhhh ngl it's kinda sexy OOPS
i need to carry this mans children.
@@TactiSielu no oops girl you ate
Probably because he gives off that gentle giant vibe initially
The growls awaken something…
Tav: I killed them :v
Halsin: EXPLAIN YOURSELF
Tav: I’m a drow :T
Halsin: oh I see can’t be mad at nature then
Wait he forgives you if you do it cus of being a drow?
I'm surprised there wasn't an option to say "I was protecting the tieflings that were taking refuge there. The druids turned on them."
Or "I watched Kagha murder a child and reacted."
Yes, the dialogue choices are poor.
"[...] save my grove, then I will help you"
about that one, pal...
The actual grove is still intact, and he calls in friends from other areas to tend to it.
"You will not see another day!"
*proceeds to engage in a 4v1*
Methinks INT might not be his best stat
i mean it literally isn't, it's like 9.
“There are three things all wise men fear:the sea in storm, a night with no moon and the rage of a gentle man”
And yet... Not a single tear was shed for Nettie... hahahahahaha
I mean, she was ready to murder somebody who came to her for healing. I'd say that's "forgetting her principles".
@@kapitankapital6580 Technically you came to her with a disease she can't cure. One that should theoretically turn you in a monster within a short period of time, a monster that could single handedly wipe out the grove.
It makes sense that she only lets you go if it becomes clear to her that you would take yourself out before it got to that point. Can't blame her for not wanting to become literal brain-food for a squid.
@@kapitankapital6580 Do druids even have a hippocratic oath?
@@kapitankapital6580 If there was a mass jailbreak of actual murderers in your area and a stranger shows up at your house in prison scrubs asking for bandaids, you look me in the 👀 and tell me you wouldn't at least have a knife on you
@@Archflip Yeah, sorta. That's the whole thing about not being a shadow druid. A lot of the druid dialog options with turning kahga away from the shadows hints heavily at this. Rejecting the helpless is like rejecting Sylvanus himself and the like.
Halsin: explain yourself now!!!
Tav: ** hands over the letter that exposed how kharga was gonna turn the the grove to the shadow druid and hiw the rest basically agreed**
Halsin: oh, good, you saved the trouble of dealing with them
Huh. I had a play through where they killed each other, Halsin automatically triggered as an enemy and attacked the party. Didn't realize Tav got a chance to 'explain'
Did you massacre the druids?
omfg I never seen Halsin mad. Im so scared
scared of a druid who got captured by goblins
So there's a super specific order in which you need to do things cause if you attack the grove then go to free halsin, he is gone from his cell and the gobos are dead. But if you promise to help him but still fight at the grove to kill everyone, he will then meet you (in the under dark in my case) at your camp and try to kill you regardless of what choices you make.
Meanwhile I just straight up helped invade the grove and everything. Then I went to check the worg pens and noticed the goblins down there were all dead and Halsin's cage was open, soooooo-
But I haven't seen him around yet . . . Wonder where he went-
Check the front of the grove once you long rest
Right behind you
But wait. What happens if you kill the druids, and save Halsin? No party? Or just a very lonely party?
well, if you save halsin then kill the druids, he shows up at camp one night and tries to kill you
In one of my playthroughs we sided with the Tieflings and killed the Druids, and Halsin was pretty alright with it
Shadowheart stays, La'zel stays, Asatrion stays & gale can be convinced to stay.
I know that if the druids leak out and start killing Teeflings, there are several replacements for Zevlor at the party.
it depends on why you killed the druids. if you killed the druids in order to protect the tieflings, then he's sad but understands. if you raid the grove with minthara, he tracks you down and tries to kill you.
To contrary belief, I did live to see many more days…
The voice acting is just so goddam good
I never want to see Halsin that mad again
I do 🥵
I missed this entirely in my first run, since I knocked minthara down and killed the other two before rescuing him, then he appeared in the grove to party, all forgiven. It seems that he really liked those refuges and really wasn't on board with the writing on the wall with those wanting to take them out.
He's... scary when he's angry
Halsin: you will not see another day
Halsin two minutes later: does not see another day
Halsin is weirdly chill about all his friends being killed.
I got this interaction on my current play though and I was like “You sure that’s ok? I’m pretty sure I’m a bigger threat to the grove than a few goblins.
Hang on, is this when you kill Kagha after exposing her shadow druid ties to the grove? Because if she gets exposed, not all of the druids die - some of them help you fight against her. So this is if you attack Kagha without exposing her, right?
This is what happens if you kill all the druids. All of them. I think there is separate dialog for killing just kagha, both with and without her being exposed.
@@Swordsoulreaver Does he still attack you though? If you killed Kagha after exposing her?
... I love BG3. 250 hours in and a random youtube comment tells me more about the game.
@@trishapellis no he doesnt
@@Swordsoulreaveryes there’s a different dialogue if it’s just exposing kahga
0:11 those 3 questions always make me laugh. 😂
your character is gorgeous
So much of the time in an evil run, i never see Halsin again after he leaves the worg pens. Even long resting near the Grove he doesn't show up and the barrels of goblins just stay unopened even if i rest multiple nights. I think only once did i come across Halsin's dead body in front of the Grove gate but he's never come to camp to confront me. Where he goes, who knows but he just disappears from the rest of the game!
Angry Halsin is kinda scary lol
you gonna cry, little druid junior?
This comment got me. Well done
I tried to do that, and he always dies... :(
The druids were unbearable, I don't regret anything
If I was TRULY evil to Halsin, I wouldnt even tell him it was me who did it. I would let him see for himself and rest assured he would never know who did it.
Oooh angry Halsin 👀
I'm still in act one and haven't fought with Halsin or seen him in action yet, but seeing as he's an Arch Druid, you'd think he would be a boss level fight. At least in this situation where he's not a companion.
He's pretty strong for the moment you find him, especially if you decide to side with him the moment you free him. And the bear form holds it's ground against both the small army that fights alongside Gut and Dror Ragzlin who's one beefy mf to deal with. And mommy Minthy as well if you're going a "no mercy on villains" route.
NGL Angry halsin is pretty hawt
I mean, Halsin knows that leaving Kagha in charge is wrong, he was just blinded by the prospect of finding the Nightsong. So it makes sense why he'd get angry if you don't explain and be more rational if you say the druids attacked you
Finding the Nightsong? Pretty sure that Halsin was using that as an excuse to investigate the sudden mass illithid infection, dude. Halsin didn't give two shits about a relic he never even heard of, but he does get pretty judgemental and dissapointed when Shadowheart kills _her_
wait so if you lie to him can you get him and Minthara? if he believes you that it was self denfese? gotta try that now
Killing the druids =/= raiding the grove. If you raid the grove, you kill the druids + tieflings, and there's no excuse. If you kill only the druids(steal the Idol/attack Kagha), the tieflings are alive, presumably to explain to Halsin what happened.
By now, no. Even if you do things in a way that Minthara can be recruited in act 2, Halsin *will* leave if you do.
Please Haslin compliment me more 😊
owo he's hot when he's angry
yes daddy halsin
I had this exact thing happend to me (stole the idol, created chaos, killed druids) and told Halsin it was self defense. He reacted the same way, while asking me to save grove (which is destroyed). After killing leaders, he said he would see me in camp, but he never showed up. Latter I had update in quest log, that Halsin "failed to his death" and this whole run is incredibly buggy for me.
Tell me, did you find Halsin after this?
how did you get halsin to stay? For me as soon as I finished the raid Halsin was gone
To get Halsin to stick around, you need to basically work out the best solution for everyone involved, which requires:
- Do not side with either the tieflings or the druids in the Emerald Grove conflict. You can either disregard both side quests until bullet point 2 is completed, or you can end them both early and peacefully by exposing Kagha's deal with the Shadow Druids, then killing the Shadow Druids (and Kagha, unless you can convince her to betray the Shadow Druids).
- Raid the goblin camp and kill the three Absolutist leaders: Priestess Gut, Nightwarden Minthara (you can also knock her out to give her a redemption arc in Act 2), and Dror Ragzlin.
- Free Halsin
I respect Halsin, but he's a trusting fool. In a world like this you have to expect betrayal at every turn.
Rolled a similar female character except she’s nude in all cutscenes…because reasons
Bros down bad
I keep all the male companions nude because it's not like I make my dogs wear clothes in real life either lol
@@ajokebygod thats reasoning is a tad concerning
@@namethefifth7315 Poor guy's been fed on my ascended Asterion
This small corner of the comments is peak BG behavior. You have all types here, from all 3 games.
wait, can you just recruit him after that? does he arrives to empty grove? xD