Recovery Rope vs Strap - Matt's Off Road Recovery and MadMatt's experiences

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  • Recovery Rope vs Snatch Strap. Matt from ‪@MattsOffRoadRecovery‬ and myself share our thoughts and experiences about both recovery ropes and snatch straps. For Matt (Matt's Off Road Recovery) the Recovery Rope is his must have off road recovery gear.
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  • @kevintoly2864
    @kevintoly2864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    "So we got a call.." oh wait wrong channel.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      😂😂😂 well played

    • @growlith6969
      @growlith6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I had a good laugh over that. Yup, you have some cross-over viewers here. I had to look back at the title and see why the funny talking guy was hosting :-)

    • @ronjaime3493
      @ronjaime3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh damn I am on the wrong channel no wonder there werent any recovery lmao

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LOL You guys!!!

    • @joshua_J
      @joshua_J 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought the exact same thing when I clicked on this video.

  • @jackfourbee3609
    @jackfourbee3609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    Nothing worse than road rash on your snatch.
    Keep up the good Matt. love it.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      LOL I've never thought of it like that. HA HA HA

    • @julesbabauta
      @julesbabauta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @willwalt6374
      @willwalt6374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @GregariousAntithesis
      @GregariousAntithesis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MadMatt4WD probably don't call it a snatch down under, probably something like a cloaca :)

    • @chrisgibson2779
      @chrisgibson2779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is the funniest thing I've read in quite a while lol!

  • @davidnalls8628
    @davidnalls8628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    I’m a simple man. I see the Yellow Banana, I click.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      LOL

    • @ian_jones
      @ian_jones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. That’s how it’s done

  • @russellraspier4859
    @russellraspier4859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Old fire hose makes a great protective sleeve to protect straps/ropes against abrasion.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Interesting idea

    • @BikingVikingHH
      @BikingVikingHH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Where the hell am I going to get an old fire hose?!

    • @Cosper79
      @Cosper79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fire house adds significant weight to your rig.

    • @pilotdog68
      @pilotdog68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Cosper79 don't need to carry a big section... Just 5ft or so

    • @SurferJoe46
      @SurferJoe46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The US Navy used a braided/woven line called SAMPSON ... which was used to minimize shock loads on both the towing and the towed loads. Tugboats used it almost exclusively, but if it parted, it came back at you like a giant whip and would cut you in half. Not just a few boatswains mates died that way ... or lost an arm or leg ... or both.
      They were no good for mooring as they would allow a wind to push a ship too far from a pier or buoy. Sampson had a use-by date in that sunshine killed the fibers with UV rays, as well as oil would destroy it too. Abrasion was another Sampson-killer.
      I'm impressed by your tow lines (I cannot call them "rope" since that's not nautically correct) and I can see they don't live long enough to suffer from UV degradation ... oil, maybe moreso.

  • @TurboManiacal
    @TurboManiacal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    How do you know when a Matt from Winder Towing is in trouble?
    When you hear “Call Casey”

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      HA HA HA

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MadMatt4WD th-cam.com/video/ZllaYC83IUA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Matt%27sOffRoadRecovery about 6:20 in for the face of shame and the phone call.

    • @maxjacobd2264
      @maxjacobd2264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'll holler when he needs ya

  • @cynthiacler9284
    @cynthiacler9284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Matts channel is the best! Its so nice to see you guest appearing on another channel. A man with a world of knowledge in that head of his.

  • @nickjennings3500
    @nickjennings3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Hi Matt, “The Two Matt’s” what a combo, you guys certainly seemed to get on well. Really interesting , can’ t wait for the next video. Take care, be safe & well. Nick

  • @DarkCavalry1228
    @DarkCavalry1228 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU BOTH!! The rope skid scenario was such great knowledge transfer!

  • @JamesJohnson-pb6mr
    @JamesJohnson-pb6mr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    In the late 70's I drove a Honda Civic with a really good trailer hitch installed. I also carried a 90 foot 1" diameter nylon rope. One day I came upon a Ford 4-wheel drive pickup which was stuck down at the bottom of a filled in area which crossed a creek. I finally convinced the driver to let me try to rescue him. I did so, and he thanked me profusely, but at the last he said "But please don't tell any of my buddies that you rescued me!!! He was acutely embarassed that I got him out!
    Good show.
    JRJ

  • @watcherofwatchers
    @watcherofwatchers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I have been watching Matt's Off Road Recovery channel for a few months now, and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed this little conversation between these two experts. I gleaned a lot of valuable information that I haven't through the recovery videos (Those are also informative, but in different ways). Thank you.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks. We’re only trying to help.

  • @danmekeel7758
    @danmekeel7758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You guys both play off each other very well on subject matter, no side lines.

  • @tekawarobb
    @tekawarobb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two absolute legends, together! Awesome video, super helpful, thank you!

  • @760rudogg
    @760rudogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Love the yellow xj and Matt is such a great human being

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah he's a good guy

    • @KevinBenecke
      @KevinBenecke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everyone refers to Matt's yellow Jeep as the "Yellow Banana".

  • @BG-vq9fd
    @BG-vq9fd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I started using Snatch-"UM" straps in the late 70's. I had 2" and 4". What an improvement over to the chains we had been using.
    If we still played I would probably have a Yankum rope and shackle.

  • @ericpettyfishing
    @ericpettyfishing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great episode! Matt's channel is so great! I spend years in that area of southern Utah and these videos always give me memories! Great stuff!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is awesome!

  • @sniperlif3
    @sniperlif3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the video, glad to see two folks with two different experiences just talking about their experiences and not fighting over who is better. In the end, this betters everyone.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes true, Just trying to help

  • @Idahoprepper71
    @Idahoprepper71 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back in the 80s I was in the coast guard. We replaced the tow ropes ever year on the small boats. I used to keep the ropes and make my own kinetic tow rope for people stuck on the beach where I was stationed. I was the guy everyone called when someone was stuck on the beach when nobody could get them out.

    • @chrisbynum4940
      @chrisbynum4940 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was at CG Station Freeport TX and did the same thing. The Chief of the station said we could take anything out of the dumpster we wanted. Because the tow rope on the 41 UTB was a couple of hundred feet, we would cut it up into 50-60’ sections and resplice eyes in it or just be lazy and tie a bowline. I had a 4x4 truck and would cruise Surfside beach and pull people out of the sand.

  • @rigadventure
    @rigadventure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm big on overlanding. My 5 year old son loves the Winder jeep. Awesome recovery tutorials.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is awesome!

  • @conneraaronwebb5165
    @conneraaronwebb5165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt with off road recovery out of Jacksonville Florida is another great and professional recovery guy that goes out of way to do the job right the first time and makes sure you go home to your familys and the end of the day

  • @leroybrown1845
    @leroybrown1845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video lots of knowledge i just ordered my matts recovery rope can't wait to replace my old10k sling leg thats on its last leg

  • @paulblair7515
    @paulblair7515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just got a jeep WK (not the best offroading but its my first) a few months ago and have been watching 4x4 videos a lot more recently including Matt's channel. The craziest and coolest videos I see though all come from Australia(i'm from New Mexico, USA). You guys take offroading to the next level. I'm glad you guy's did this video and I was able to find your channel too. I'm subbing now and look forward to many more great videos.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome. take some time to go back through and watch some of my other videos.

  • @T25de
    @T25de 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love watching the aussies wheel
    Got some great trails and great vehicles!
    Been watching Matt’s recovery channel for a while

  • @tompaulson6978
    @tompaulson6978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been using a snatch rope for over 40 years. I don't leave home with out it. Made my own from a discarded 1" nylon line from a US Navy cruiser and back woven 12" on each end forming a loop. Total length is just under 20 ft. It has never failed to get out anything I wanted to extract.

  • @TheDeJureTour
    @TheDeJureTour 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings from southwestern Colorado USA! I've always used the straps. I didn't even know about the ropes until watching Matt's channel a year ago.

  • @marlonm396
    @marlonm396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gentlemen, i ran into this posting by mistake and i am glad i did as i learned a lot about recovery gear. Stay fafe..

  • @stsears11
    @stsears11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Hard to argue with Matt's results, I go with the Ropes.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      true

    • @Hyperion5182
      @Hyperion5182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Brian Landers if they're in trouble one or two times a year maybe. As a resident who has to deal in snow? I'd want those Yankums.

    • @BikingVikingHH
      @BikingVikingHH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A snatch strap should be in every car that goes off routing, a kinetic rope should be in anyone’s car that goes off Roading all the time.

  • @MrTimstaaa
    @MrTimstaaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video Matt. Learnt things about this topic I didn't know before. 👍👍

  • @EvansTheTraveller
    @EvansTheTraveller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two Matts from different part of the world and they both make fantastic videos.

  • @americancoalminer6828
    @americancoalminer6828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very good video! 👍🏻 I personally switched from Recovery Straps to Recovery Ropes myself in the last year, I really do like the ropes. I live in Wyoming, about 6 hours away from Winder Towing, (I went and visited Matt and Ed in January 2020, very awesome guy Matt is! The entire crew is awesome at Winder!) But as I was saying, we have some pretty intense off-roading areas in Wyoming, and the kinetic ropes make quick work of most of the recoveries I've went out on. Great video again, I've watched yours and Matt's Off Road Recovery side of it, love them both! Much love and stay strong 💪🏻 From Wyoming! 🇺🇸

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks heaps

    • @stevewilson9792
      @stevewilson9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      American coal miner, If you live in the Great State of Wyoming, how dang fast are you driving to get to Hurricane, Ut in just 6 hours?

    • @americancoalminer6828
      @americancoalminer6828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevewilson9792
      Haha I'm right next to Evanston Wyoming, the bottom South/West corner of the state.

  • @kevinthompson5827
    @kevinthompson5827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Matt after watching this video I subscribed to your channel. I'm curious to see what you guys are doing in your country. Being a fan of Matt's recovery and seeing him do the things that he does I'm excited to see what you are doing.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Kevin. I hope we live up to your expectations. When you have time go back through some of the videos.

  • @scottcampbell2836
    @scottcampbell2836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good to see you there mad Matt hope you had a nice trip to the states take care

  • @ReggaeRedeemer
    @ReggaeRedeemer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SICK!! good to see matt on another channel!!

  • @Lhenry-pf5zn
    @Lhenry-pf5zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My first exposure to a kinetic rope was on a Coroner's inquest.A shallow water tugboat captain lost his head when the towline, (nylon), ripped the deck cleat off the dredge barge which was stuck on a sandbar. Since then I have used nylon or elastic ropes very little. I have bought one of Matts ropes and look forward to using it here in our Canadian winter. I will just leave you with the caution to everyone, make sure that what you are attaching to is secure and can not become a projectile. In the case of the barge, the cleat was welded to the deck and not strong enough for the forces applied to it. Rigging is an artform.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s horrid. This is why I’ve done so many videos trying to warn people about the dangers.

  • @TroubleBKC
    @TroubleBKC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rolled over from Matt's Offroad and this is a video i had no idea i needed. i have used snatch straps for a while and had more than one fail s this is great knowledge!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      glad to have helped

  • @rg3412
    @rg3412 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best Matts out there! Exceptional stuff.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, thanks!

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to seeing the recoveries with the various ropes and straps!

  • @BikingVikingHH
    @BikingVikingHH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oi M8, Matt’s recovery channel brought me here, and you seem like a top bloke yourself! New subscriber here. Skål!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Woot woot. Thanks mate

  • @clintchapman4319
    @clintchapman4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Growing up, my Dad had a 100' "kinetic rope". We always called them snatch ropes. As far as them wearing out, he had that one for over 20 years that I can attest to. I never broke as far as I know. It got used A LOT! Often people would look him up just to borrow it as that was the only way to get them out when they were out in the middle of a pond or something. Good times!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds awesome. Ropes seem to behave very different to the straps.

  • @GeorgeBonez
    @GeorgeBonez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like Mad Matt. He seems like a really good humble dude!
    And as always a big fan of Matt. If I need to pull something I always research Matt’s channel and sometimes I just watch for hours because it’s so entertaining. Keep up the great work Matt !!!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate

    • @GeorgeBonez
      @GeorgeBonez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MadMatt 4WD subbing ya bro and I look forward to checking out your channel. Thanks for teaching us so much my friend and always stay safe!

  • @dualsportrider3221
    @dualsportrider3221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive uses strapps my whole life. Never had a rope. U guys make me want one. I just bought traction boards. I been seeing u guys down under use them. Love the boards i use them all the time

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice there's a link in the description to get them.

  • @12gauge1oz
    @12gauge1oz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Go Winder Towing! Always learn something from you. Thanks.

  • @TheCRCTeamcom
    @TheCRCTeamcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Matt of off-road recovery is the MAN!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah @matts off road recovery is a tops guy.

  • @TheManofmisc
    @TheManofmisc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a video of two boys comparing their ropes. Always quality.

  • @jnlaf
    @jnlaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool. came here from Matt's off road recovery.

  • @jessegillan7013
    @jessegillan7013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That seems like a very entertaining duo. I’ve never heard of the recovery ropes till now, probably because I’m an Aussie but it’ll be good to see how they work!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      love the support :)

    • @emptyeskiadventures463
      @emptyeskiadventures463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought a recovery rope here in Australia about 4 months ago... after watching Matt’s off road recovery (US)... it has been used once to pull out a bogged hilux, their snatch straps had broken trying to get out, so I lent these guys my rope.. the hilux just popped straight out, no fuss... they were like WTF!?!?! great product.

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jase on All 4 Adventure uses the rope now.

    • @InspirationInfinity
      @InspirationInfinity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emptyeskiadventures463 America :D

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I heard a story (fable?): A tank got bogged during training. The army's extraction team struggled. A farmer stated HE could extract the tank and was allowed to prove it. His secret? 'Patience'. He allowed the force to be applied over a longer period of time so that the vehicle could 'ooze' instead of tear its way out. This analogy applies to recovery ropes versus the less elastic snatch straps.The kinetic energy from a moving vehicle can be applied either as a violent jolt or a more graduated surge. To tear a vehicle free from a viscous material like mud in less than 1 second requires far more force than allowing it to work itself free over 2 to 3 seconds.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great point. I actually want to do this as a video one day. I guy i know had a 4wd stuck in quick sand and he applied winch power to the vehicle and waited. It took a number of hours but the vehicle came out because of the constant slow force.

    • @tylerdooley4783
      @tylerdooley4783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great Fable! True also, minus the tank. As a farmer, we use these types of ropes for tractor and truck recovery. We actually use sailing ropes we that are rated but we have to splice them ourselves. Same principle though!

    • @larry41
      @larry41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Believe it or not I actually saw an M60A1 in mud up to the bottom of the turret. Stuck big time. It was outside Aschaffenburg Germany at our local training area I believe in 1978 or maybe 1977. I was a medic and swapped out with my relief before they got it out.

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@larry41 Yikes! Now THAT would be a recovery worth watching. The rope would have to be about as thick as the mooring lines for ocean liners.

    • @larry41
      @larry41 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregparrott Yeah, I wish I had the presence of mind at 22 years old to realize that's a story I should have found out the ending to!

  • @fredmartine674
    @fredmartine674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed the video comparing the rope and the strap. I've used both kinds but I mostly use the rope. The video clip of the Jeep being helped out reminded me of one time when I did that with my 86 Chevy 4x4 longbed truck helping out a newer Chevy HD truck that couldn't climb out of the steep sides of the river bed, I used a rope and pulled him out while there was a parade going on nearby so I had some spectators watching. Good times..

  • @deadnorth8333
    @deadnorth8333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been using the straps and ropes for over 40 years work awesome

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they do work well

  • @billstoermer8668
    @billstoermer8668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Started vertical wall climbing in early 60's and out first climbing rope was a static "Goldline" rope... OMG, you hated to fall on that baby! Then came the dynamic ropes and many a climbers life, ribs and back were saved by the elastic component of the dynamic rope! Good day, mate!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info.

    • @frenchfryfarmer436
      @frenchfryfarmer436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha..I can relate..damn goldline!! That gold line came from the rappeling community. Even a more modern sheathed "Blue water " static line was better than the damn goldline. We always used static for top rope climbing. Dynamic are for lead climbs, rock, ice or mountaineering.

  • @ChopStickZero
    @ChopStickZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Never thought a video on a piece of recovery equipment could be so interesting :) .

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😁

    • @bigby1590
      @bigby1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idrivearoundthemtgebaskiftgeygotanybeer12packipulluout

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Matt has a awesome channel for offroad recovery

  • @timsmothers8740
    @timsmothers8740 ปีที่แล้ว

    I,have been watching Matt do recoveries for a couple of years now and have learned a ton of knowledge from his videos, I remember watching the video from when they pranked him with a fake recovery job so they could present him with his TH-cam award for getting to the 100k subscribers they hid the silver push to play plaque up underneath the vehicle. They almost got him but because of all of his friends and family and coworkers, he knew something was going on. Now that was a couple Million more subs ago. And another 👍 great video with this one.

  • @leclairranch6947
    @leclairranch6947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video I’ve been around ropes most my entire life 30 years. I have tried straps and I don’t like them. We have pulled out tractors, trucks and semis. They just work great. I have only ever broke one rope to the several straps I have broke.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I'm going to be happier with ropes from what I'm seeing

  • @drobs7279
    @drobs7279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought kinetic rope after watching all of Matt's Off Road Recovery videos. Someday I'll get a chance to use it.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go wheeling with a mate and DO IT :)

  • @landcruiser1055
    @landcruiser1055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Matt & Matt. Never really thought about the ropes before. Looking forward to finding out more info about this product. Only ever used snatch straps before. But as you mentioned, it’s more outlay for the rope but if you get 100’s of recoveries out of them, it’s a no brainer really. And with the storage issue, I’ll just chuck the rope in a bag & store it in my roof cage on my HZJ105! Love my cruiser!!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta luv a cruiser

  • @steviehogan3046
    @steviehogan3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt you deserve some good coverage and your opinion and views on off roading is always important, the thing is we watch for fun but you're doing it for real and as a way of work and a way of running your business, that's the difference for me plenty of guys have a go at it but you're doing it for real

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stevie Thanks you so much for the very kind words. That means a lot to me because as you can imagine there's lot's of hard work in all this.

    • @steviehogan3046
      @steviehogan3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MadMatt4WD well I've not seen any better off roader than matt from winder towing, he 'is' an expert and should always be asked for his thoughts and views regarding how he goes about recovering off road, I don't think there's anyone better out there, how you get there, how you approach the recovery regarding the type of terrain you are on and how to be a good man !! Why aren't Netflix rounding you guys up and giving the world an insight to the adventures and knowledge of being new world explorers 😁🤙🤙

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well now I’m all for that

  • @wirebrush
    @wirebrush 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great show. I've been surprised by the Aussie's resistance to using kinetic ropes. I keep a 10' kinetic rope in my truck as well as a 30' snatch strap. The 10' kinetic rope doesn't take up a lot of room, but it has a lot more stretch than the snatch strap and gets used a lot more.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m not sure if it’s a resistance but rather lack of exposure to them. As i say this was my first time to use one.

    • @wirebrush
      @wirebrush 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MadMatt4WD
      I commented on kinetic ropes on another well known Aussie 4wd channel and was immediately blown off with "snatch strap does the same thing and doesn't take up as much space" comments. Seemed pretty resistant to me. I agree that lack of exposure is to blame. I see the same thing here when I talk about Black Series trailers. I see resistance from those who haven't been exposed to the Aussie style off road caravans and are accustomed to the garbage trailers we've been sold here for decades.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm. I really don’t have much time for those who are closed to learning. I’m sorry for my fellow countrymen who were disrespectful towards you.

    • @wirebrush
      @wirebrush 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MadMatt4WD No blame on you or your country. Like I said, there's plenty of it here, probably more. Someday I'd love to go exploring around the outback of Australia. Looks like beautiful country and just my kind of population density. Keep up the great content!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do

  • @thedocisin3204
    @thedocisin3204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    While my wife is at work I throw my Super Yanker and recovery straps in the washing machine (no detergent) , sun dry and they look good.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LOL and then her white work shirt becomes grey. And that's how the argument started. LOL

  • @QatarSandMan
    @QatarSandMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video, They're 2nd and 3rd best options, after a winch and a nice heavy vehicle to mount it on.

  • @texoma_outdoors
    @texoma_outdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to use straps before I started watching Matt's channel. I ordered a rope but haven't had an occasion that I've needed it yet.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm leaning towards the ropes.

  • @davidbutler5114
    @davidbutler5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been using 3” 30’ snatch strap for 20 years. I was skeptical about the ropes until I tried one out. The rope was 100$ more than a good strap but it’s worth it.

  • @melswolf805
    @melswolf805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For sure a recovery rope, here in the UAE desert the kinetic energy helps massively when also the towing vehicle is in soft sand.... Most ropes here are made out of marine Nylon that has the kinetic abilities connected with soft shackles its the safest way to recover a vehicle stuck in the deep soft sand...

  • @OverlandPNW
    @OverlandPNW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just used that same red Factor 55 recovery rope last weekend. Worked great ! Snatch straps are good too !

  • @edwardhugus2772
    @edwardhugus2772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found you through Matt's off road recovery. You have a new subscriber, sir.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @brianhoefer7148
    @brianhoefer7148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:18 the reduction in shape might be caused from melting due to friction heat as the braids quickly pull tight. I kitesurf and build and pre-stretch my kitelines. Early on, I discovered that if I winch the 1.75mm Dyneema lines during my pre-stretch to quickly, they melt and harden in spots.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a very interesting thought.

  • @rd4660
    @rd4660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Welcome to Utah! It will take you a month to get that red Utah dust out of my kit. Rope, always use a kinetic energy rope. I prefer Bubba Rope.

  • @Faolan161
    @Faolan161 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Hard to find an expert..."
    That's YOU GUYS!

  • @kevinbode6483
    @kevinbode6483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is answering questions I've been wanting to ask.

  • @alfonsocasillas7290
    @alfonsocasillas7290 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video I have many friends that bought the rope I hope you’re getting a commission Matt

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this Matt doesn't unless you buy one from the link in the description. :)

  • @796andy2
    @796andy2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On my list ...

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it should be :)

  • @amacca995
    @amacca995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an Aussie 4x4 enthusiast im very happy to see this video. Subbed to Matts channel for a long time now and subbing here.
    I have never used the ropes myself, always straps and used them much more than only 10 times! Infact my current arb one would be atleast 20 pulls and still works.
    Will have to look into these ropes though. Over 100 pulls and still working? That is excellent value for money.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. You can get the rope in the link in the description and use the code madmatt to get 10% off

  • @TJackSurvival
    @TJackSurvival 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We use these in the military. I was introduced to them with a Special Forces Convoy operations course to pop Hummers off the X.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting.

  • @Clean97gti
    @Clean97gti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had a strap fail once pulling my old pickup on the street. It broke in the mid section of a 20ft strap and while the strap did hit my truck, it hit the front (a 1992 Chevy S-10) but caused no damage. I'm not sure if it only hit the steel bumper or the plastic grill too, but I couldn't see any evidence of it. Now, failing in the middle vs. at the end effectively cuts the weight in half and greatly reduces the energy. I don't think I'd want to be standing next to it when it went, but the dangers of failure seem highly dependent on the situation. I'd be more concerned about a tow hook or recovery point coming loose and flinging a heavy chunk of steel, than a strap or a rope breaking cleanly.

    • @andychips6923
      @andychips6923 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Replying to a 3 year old comment.. but i totally agree. I never used either of these for this exact reason. Recovery point fails and you have a missile.. I rather struggle a little more with a non elastic tow strap or winch line.

  • @1st_on_mars227
    @1st_on_mars227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm really curious what they measure in length new vs at retirement. It might be a good indicator of how much stretch/life is left in it.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good thought

    • @vyacheslavioffe5132
      @vyacheslavioffe5132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will still the same !! If you don't do any physical damage to them , nothing else will affect them !!!
      My ropes are 10 years old , they still the same !!

  • @randlecycling2462
    @randlecycling2462 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome Matt, as a fellow Australian who is a big fan of Morr.

  • @HalfWarrior
    @HalfWarrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Matts!

  • @TheSacobeans
    @TheSacobeans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I first saw Matt's off road recovery I was very confused why a professional would be shock loading his strap haha

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes until we understand the tool.

  • @codyfulghum2262
    @codyfulghum2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've seen tanks being pulled with recovery ropes, at redstone arsenal. I'd have to give the win to the rope.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @Ericbjohnston5150
      @Ericbjohnston5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MadMatt4WD I'd give the win to a slow pull mega winch.

  • @robertlemoine3500
    @robertlemoine3500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New sub ,looking forward to more high quality programs, well done Matt.

  • @daniloengracio1127
    @daniloengracio1127 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video! Kinetic rope from Miolle is awesome! super strong and durable!

  • @strietermarinesurvey1415
    @strietermarinesurvey1415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Farmers towing tractor trailers 60 - 80 thousand pounds through the mud full of sugar beets here in Michigan use big rope not straps!

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds fair

    • @nocoolname32
      @nocoolname32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That makes sense, a heavy slow 4 wheel drive tractor with 6 or 8 tires for traction towing. The kinetic ropes shine where a smaller vehicle with limited traction is the recovery vehicle so inertia is needed to perform the recovery.

    • @Clean97gti
      @Clean97gti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My grandfather told me that farmers in California where he grew up, used to buy old mooring ropes from ships for that exact thing.

    • @johnhalter7287
      @johnhalter7287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have used straps with tractors a lot, no problems. I think a rope is easier to wrap up when done and would be my only plus for one over the other. Pulling over 80,
      000 with a rated strap is no problem with a tractor. To be honest they both work great and use what you got, the cost would keep me from the rope mostly

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The keywords 'Matt's Off Road Recovery' brought me here. I look forward to the comparative testing of snatch straps versus recovery ropes. The key differentiator is the recovery rope's greater stretch. The likely mechanism for this stretch is not as much the material as it is the geometrical construction. The strands are configured into a helical/serpentine weave. As load is applied, the helix is pulled into a straighter line, as evidenced by the rope becoming thinner.
    While Yankum looks great, I bought another brand because after 6 months since I notified them, they have STILL failed to correct or even acknowledge a libelous error on their web page. You can easily verify it yourself:
    Compare the Maximum Breaking Strength (MBS) of Yankum's various rope diameters to those of 'Bubba' ropes (the only manufacturer with military certified strengths). Both manufacturers list the same MBS for their 7/8" and 1.5" ropes. In between these two diameters, Yankum offers a 1", while Bubba offers a 1.25".
    Here's the problem: Yankum lists their 1" as having the same MBS as Bubba's 1.25".
    For this to be true, Yankum's 1" rope MUST be made of a different material than all their other ropes. By comparing cross sectional areas, Yankum's 1" rope would have to use a material that is 56% stronger than all their other rope. Furthermore, that material would have to be 56% stronger to all ropes made by Bubba and every other manufacturer of recovery ropes.
    Due to lack of response, I bought a 1" rope from another manufacturer. While their 7/8" and 1.5" ropes match Yankum's and Bubba's MBS, their 1" rope has a rated MBS of 33,500 lbs. This is what one would expect based on cross sectional areas.
    Perhaps by posting this here, it will finally prompt them to be responsible about a real liability in their advertising.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll stay out of that discussion but I'll tag them. @yankum rope

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MadMatt4WD Thanks. My email was to 'Alan'. Now that I've checked my emails, it was on 12/4/19. That's a bit over 4 months ago, not 6.

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m picturing this rant as being spoken by Vizzini from A Princess Bride. It appears Yankum ropes has encountered one of the two classic blunders; never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!
      But seriously, maybe Yankum just tests them differently, or there are other variables at play. I’m not sure you can label it a ‘libelous error’ quite yet.
      I could care less, if they are good enough for Matt they are good enough for me.

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimyeats It's fine that you call it a rant. But the math is real simple.....should you elect to go the next size up from what Matt uses, you'll be disappointed if you expect it to be anywhere near as strong as what's advertised.

  • @cna32001
    @cna32001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used straps religiously broke two last spring stuck on Monte Cristo in Northern Utah. After Watching Winder towing using them they will replacing them Yankum ropes. Been watching a while now and just love what they have been put through, they keep going.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm leaning that way if I have to do a kinetic recovery.

  • @williampankratz600
    @williampankratz600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    .I have done recoveries for friends years ago, I used plenty of straps and ropes but none were brand name , and they worked great until they broke and we resorted to chains which are also dangerous.
    Things have really advanced from 30 years ago when a group of us would go do things that were unlikely and get away with it. .
    Thinking about another off road Ford and might get involved again with some group that likes to go do something stupid and try to get away with it off road.
    You folks have some great new ideas that were not available years ago,,,,, Thanks

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad we could help

  • @nileexpediting6297
    @nileexpediting6297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “In Australia”
    Hold my beer , Matt

  • @wendellyazzie3303
    @wendellyazzie3303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used a snatch strap once to get my yukon xl out of some deep mud with my duramax and it snapped and took out my rear window.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that doesn't surprise me. One of the reasons I'm not a fan of them

    • @wendellyazzie3303
      @wendellyazzie3303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah now I carry a bubba rope in my vehicles. Thanks for the great video.

  • @madcratebuilder
    @madcratebuilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info guys, thanks.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @wilsonstevens9903
    @wilsonstevens9903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video mate! I'm using 7/8 rope from Miolle the quality is awesome! Nice hi-vis color makes it easy to see and, more importantly, stay clear of during the snatch. Seems very well made and robust. I definitely recommend this kinetic rope.

  • @raphaelgoeiman
    @raphaelgoeiman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Should have started with "so we got a call"

  • @scottkraniak4941
    @scottkraniak4941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wondering why you dont have a winch or use one.. just wondering..

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have winches on both my 4wds but they're not with me on my US trip as I'm Australian based. A winch is my go to recovery device.

    • @danlux4954
      @danlux4954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Winches are slower than kinetic ropes. But they have their place.

  • @Doughboy4wd
    @Doughboy4wd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Love both channels!

  • @pkeeney
    @pkeeney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting to hear they originated in the tug boat industry. I used to wheel with a guy that swore by his tug rope, it worked great. He became known for supplying and splicing tug ropes for local wheelers.

  • @imchris5000
    @imchris5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the strap itself breaking is not what does the damage its when you rip the anchor point off and send it flying

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is true.

    • @jessetroyer5877
      @jessetroyer5877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes in my op.iv had more anchor points break on me then the straps.

    • @l337pwnage
      @l337pwnage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya, everybody focuses on the big ropes/straps, but they never reinforce their tow points.

  • @brentcraddock7169
    @brentcraddock7169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    GO JEEP.
    Your finally outta the closet.
    Enjoy.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Got caught with ma pants down

  • @Steve-gf2yk
    @Steve-gf2yk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing us the ropes!

  • @gilbertarnold8666
    @gilbertarnold8666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thank you!

  • @Drugaskan
    @Drugaskan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thats a cool support from Matt.
    Happy Holidays

  • @lpswarny2859
    @lpswarny2859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came here from the Banana channel :) enjoyed this a lot. New subscriber. Cheers MadMatt 4WD. Keep up the great content....Southwest Vic.

    • @MadMatt4WD
      @MadMatt4WD  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for coming. I look forward to getting back over there to do some more work with Matt.

  • @Wildcatchigga11
    @Wildcatchigga11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I'm following both awesome channels

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn this is super informative!!