Yeah, I walk shelter dogs and they have harnesses so I deal with it, and I'm not against. I'm definitely against prong collars and have reservations around slip collars or any neck pressure (old fragile necks of podencos etc). But this is definitely the most responsible video about it, I would know how to use them properly at least. Thanks.
@@lion7880 thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I like harnesses, and probably half of the people I work with use them. The only issue I have with them is that, if the dog is already a puller, it can trigger that opposition reflex, along with making it more comfortable, causing the dog to pull more. That's simple to correct, but for many people, by that point they either don't have the time, or don't know the exercises, to stop it, so it just gets worse. But, if the dog is not already a puller, and the dog is trained to walk with a loose leash, then they're great.
@@SomeMinorDogTraining I discourage pulling by holding the leash closer to the neck with my right hand, and slowing down the pace, as some form of negative reinforcement but no added pressure, in fact it reduces the pressure on both of us.
I'm so glad you were able to get something out of it! The slip lead is a great tool when used properly. As with any tool, even the regular nylon collar, it's all about communication. We want to find what offers the most clear communication between handler and dog so, eventually, we won't need the tool. 🐶❤️
Thank you for the detailed video. You answered my question relating to the benefits of slip leash. Just got a new boxer puppy and recently placed an order for a slip leash. Just came across your channel and will view more of your videos. This video was fantastical☺️👍🏾🐾✨
Really liked the demo of how to put on the slip leash CORRECTLY! It was very helpful in my understanding why the leash worked SOMETIMES and confused the dog at other times. Very helpful information - thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I'm glad you were able to get something out of it. Yeah, the slip lead is a great communication tool, but it does have a proper way to fit it. I'm happy to hear that you found this helpful in that. ❤️💕
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much that means to me. Good luck with your pup, and if there's anything you need, don't hesitate to reach out. ❤️💕
Unfortunately that's how everything is in dog training. Half the population will love certain things, the other half will hate it haha. The same applies to things like treats. Some trainers hate the idea of using treats, while others love it. I'd just say to do what works best for you and your dog. Regarding the slip lead, it's designed to not have any pressure on it the majority of the time. So the reason some people dislike them is because they use them (or have seen them used) improperly, meaning that the dog is still pulling constantly, so the dog ends up choking on it. But if you use it properly, it's an amazing tool. Just remember that it's a training lead, so it's designed to teach the dog to walk nicely, not simply restrain them.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, and for your much appreciated compliment of Jack. He's an amazing dog, and we've put a lot of work into his training. ❤️💕
I had to put my boy down on Dec 29th... He was 13 years old " his photo is my channel profile icon. We had a good routine and, training videos were not necessary. Nov 25th, I got a 2 month female "Sasha" blue nose and on Dec 5th a 7 week male blue nose. I wasn't planning on it but we just ended up same place, same time and they needed a forever home. My female looks exactly like a Blue Paul Terrier. She is the smartest dog I've ever met, but my boy "Kiko" is a little on the dumb side. LOL I haven't had a puppy in so many years and I want to brush up on my skills, which is why I clicked on your video. I am going to post a couple of videos that I took of them within the next couple of days (you can see what I mean). I would love your input if you wouldn't mind. I love them so much and I am grateful for them! Now, with your videos to help me, I will train them the right way! :-) @@SomeMinorDogTraining
@@lennytheloon I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. But 13 years is a nice, long life, and I can tell he was loved. Thank you for being a good dog owner, and thank you for your kind words and support! ❤️💕 As far as having two puppies around the same age, I would highly recommend spending time to work with them individually, as well as together. And give them alone time away from each other. We don't want them to develop Littermate Syndrome, especially with such powerful dogs. I recently wrote an article about it, and how to avoid it with puppies, which I'll leave a link to below if you'd like to check it out. Thanks again for watching and commenting. I really appreciate your engagement and support. Good luck with your pups, and I can't wait to see your video. If there's anything you need, please don't hesitate to reach out. ❤️💕 www.someminordogtraining.com/blog/LittermateSyndrome
I just read your article. I never heard of Litter-mate Syndrome but I was looking up puppies biting each other and playing rough the other day. Thankfully, I did get them each a dog cage of their own and they are on wheels so moving them away from each other is no problem at all. I think you just saved me from heartbreak and danger. You are my new favorite TH-camr! @@SomeMinorDogTraining
@@lennytheloon I'm glad you were able to get something out of it. Thanks for taking the time to check it out. I'm so happy that your puppies found their forever home with you. It's very clear to me that you're a loving, responsible dog owner. Keep up the good work. I really appreciate your support! ❤️💕
Opposition reflex is defined wrongly in this video. The term opposition, is from the root word opposite. You push into me, I push back into you. Commonly we use opposition reflex to teach a sit stay. While the dog is in the sit position, we use the slip lead to attempt to pull the dog out of position. The dog opposes the reflex by planting its butt in place. This is explained by the principle of physics that states that for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. What you are actually teaching in your example is for the dog to yield to pressure from the leash. It’s a form of negative reinforcement. The pressure from the leash is uncomfortable, teaching the dog to go with the direction of pressure to escape the sensation. Incidentally, any tool can have negative effects depending on how it is used. Too much pressure with the slip lead can also, and probably more quickly, damage the larynx. Your example also fails because you don’t wear the flat collar correctly on the dog. If you tighten the collar until it is snug, the pressure from you pulling on it will be distributed more uniformly around the neck. This device is often worn in protection dog sports to back tie or post up the dog because of its ability to distribute pressure around the neck. It’s not an effective correction collar and was never designed for this purpose.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! You mentioned that my definition of "opposition reflex" is incorrect. The definition i offered is that when a dog feels pressure, they will push into that pressure, which is exactly what you said. In your example with "sit," when you pull on the leash you're putting pressure on the back of the dog's neck (assuming you're standing in front of them), so the dog leans backwards, into the pressure. Yes, I'm teaching the dog to give in to leash pressure. I only mention the opposition reflex to illustrate why we want to teach them how to properly respond to leash pressure. Yes, pressure from any tool can cause larynx injury, but because of the pressure-and-release mechanism of the slip lead, the pressure isn't being put on a single part of the neck, and it's pressure, not a pull. With a flat collar, regardless of how it's fitted, it will always put more pressure on a single part of the neck if the leash is pulled, just because of the design. Regarding the flat collar, it's loose on purpose, to illustrate where the pressure is on the dog when pulled from different angles. But yes, if I were actually using the collar it would be adjusted properly. I'm sorry you feel it's not a good tool. Different strokes for different folks. I've been using them successfully for over a decade, and I've always found them to be very helpful in delivering clear communication to the dog. And that's what it's all about with any tool: Communication. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment! 🐶❤️
@ Let’s have an academic discussion here. What I am trying to point out is not that the slip lead is a bad or ineffective tool, but that you are using the wrong training terminology. Use of a slip lead, choke collar or pinch collar is done by teaching the dog to yield to pressure, ( move with it.) This isn’t what happens with oppositional reflex training. It’s actually quite the opposite. In my example, I try to pull the dog out of a sit, and oppositional reflex kicks in, and the dog’s response is oh, no, buddy I am staying right here. In contrast, what you are teaching with slip lead training is to yield to pressure. I pull you and you think , maybe if I move towards this pressure, it will be neutralized. You are training the collar correctly, but not using the right terminology to explain why the training works. Let me give you another example of the effective use of oppositional reflex from my personal dog. I have a female Malinois who is currently 20 months old. We are training in IGP sport. Like many of her breed, she is very possessive of her toys. I use a lot of interactive play in my training. The problem was that once I released the toy to her, she would not bring it back to me. I fixed this problem with oppositional reflex. While tugging with her, instead of passively releasing the toy to her, I would actively use the toy to toss her away from me. Her reaction was oh, heck no, and she quickly re-engaged. Now if I toss her toy, she drives hard into it, and immediately slams it back into me. I frequently reinforce the behavior, as it helps tremendously with her obedience training. Again, I like the slip lead. It’s a great tool, but you use the wrong terminology to describe why it works. Otherwise a good video.
@@deanbalouris330 I see what you're saying. Thank you for clarifying. I think there's an error in communication. I never say in the video that I'm doing opposition reflex training. I don't say anything about using the opposition reflex in training. The only time I mention it is to illustrate that the opposition reflex can accidentally cause pulling. My exact words are "... It's the same with our dogs, except a little bit more, because this, pulling on my shirt, is annoying, but the opposition reflex is an automatic thing. So if we put the dog into the mindset of leaning into that pressure, then it's going to be a lot easier for them to stop paying attention to what we're doing, and start paying attention to what's on the other side of that pressure." That's the only time I mention the opposition reflex. So I'm unclear where I'm using the incorrect terminology about the opposition reflex, or about how the slip lead works, because I never mention the opposition reflex in regards to that, or anything other than the quote I left above. And all I say in regards to how the slip lead works is that it works on a pressure and release system, where the pressure means stop and the release of pressure means go. You're correct that's negative reinforcement, but I don't even use a term to describe the mechanism, other than "pressure and release." Can you clarify?
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Correct. There are slip COLLARS, as well, which are just slip leads without the long handle, so they're literally the exact same thing as the choke chain. But, regardless, you are correct. I think a big difference, however, is that the slip lead doesn't slide down the dogs neck.
Depending on the dog's posture and the fur texture, both sometimes do and don't slide. The main difference is that the chain makes a noise when it tightens which is helpful to the dog. Chains also don't need to be washed, don't wear out, and carry a negative stigma @@SomeMinorDogTraining
@@EdithBrown-v2d to be fair, for maximum efficiency, the choke chain should be positioned just like the slip leash (as close to the ears as possible). Just like with the slip leash, the choke chain isn't designed to have the dog in front of you, but rather beside or behind you.
Thanks for watching! Were you able to get anything out of this video? What's your favorite leash/collar/harness?
Yeah, I walk shelter dogs and they have harnesses so I deal with it, and I'm not against. I'm definitely against prong collars and have reservations around slip collars or any neck pressure (old fragile necks of podencos etc). But this is definitely the most responsible video about it, I would know how to use them properly at least. Thanks.
My dog used the freezack Nordic, a good compromise between collar and harness, pressure on the chest rather than neck, I suppose.
@@lion7880 thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I like harnesses, and probably half of the people I work with use them. The only issue I have with them is that, if the dog is already a puller, it can trigger that opposition reflex, along with making it more comfortable, causing the dog to pull more. That's simple to correct, but for many people, by that point they either don't have the time, or don't know the exercises, to stop it, so it just gets worse. But, if the dog is not already a puller, and the dog is trained to walk with a loose leash, then they're great.
@@lion7880 thanks for your service helping shelter dogs. You have a big heart, because that's not the easiest job (physically or emotionally). ❤️💕
@@SomeMinorDogTraining I discourage pulling by holding the leash closer to the neck with my right hand, and slowing down the pace, as some form of negative reinforcement but no added pressure, in fact it reduces the pressure on both of us.
Thank you sir! Very good and clear TH-cam. And makes sense!!!!
I'm so glad you were able to get something out of it! The slip lead is a great tool when used properly. As with any tool, even the regular nylon collar, it's all about communication. We want to find what offers the most clear communication between handler and dog so, eventually, we won't need the tool. 🐶❤️
This is, hands down, the best and most helpful lesson on the effective use of the slip lead!
Oh my goodness, thank you so much! That really means a lot to me. I'm glad you found it informational. ❤️💕
Thank you for the detailed video. You answered my question relating to the benefits of slip leash. Just got a new boxer puppy and recently placed an order for a slip leash. Just came across your channel and will view more of your videos. This video was fantastical☺️👍🏾🐾✨
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment! I'm glad you found it helpful, and thank you for checking out our other videos! ❤️💕
Really liked the demo of how to put on the slip leash CORRECTLY! It was very helpful in my understanding why the leash worked SOMETIMES and confused the dog at other times. Very helpful information - thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I'm glad you were able to get something out of it. Yeah, the slip lead is a great communication tool, but it does have a proper way to fit it. I'm happy to hear that you found this helpful in that. ❤️💕
That's the first time I've seen anyone explain how and why to do it properly. Excellent video
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the comment on "NOOOOOO" gave me an aha! thanks for that
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super video, been through so many others on TH-cam. For me the best I've found. Happy now to introduce my 6 mth old puppy to this. Thank you
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much that means to me. Good luck with your pup, and if there's anything you need, don't hesitate to reach out. ❤️💕
I'm not sure what to make of the slip lead a lot of people think that they are great but a lot of people think there not so great.
Unfortunately that's how everything is in dog training. Half the population will love certain things, the other half will hate it haha. The same applies to things like treats. Some trainers hate the idea of using treats, while others love it.
I'd just say to do what works best for you and your dog. Regarding the slip lead, it's designed to not have any pressure on it the majority of the time. So the reason some people dislike them is because they use them (or have seen them used) improperly, meaning that the dog is still pulling constantly, so the dog ends up choking on it. But if you use it properly, it's an amazing tool. Just remember that it's a training lead, so it's designed to teach the dog to walk nicely, not simply restrain them.
any suggestions as to how to desensitize a dog to windshield wipers? He freaks out when they have to be on.
Is it only when you're in the car, or is it any time, even when he's outside the car?
Thank you for sharing this information... Good to know! He is a well-behaved dog and gorgeous too!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment, and for your much appreciated compliment of Jack. He's an amazing dog, and we've put a lot of work into his training. ❤️💕
I had to put my boy down on Dec 29th... He was 13 years old " his photo is my channel profile icon. We had a good routine and, training videos were not necessary.
Nov 25th, I got a 2 month female "Sasha" blue nose and on Dec 5th a 7 week male blue nose. I wasn't planning on it but we just ended up same place, same time and they needed a forever home.
My female looks exactly like a Blue Paul Terrier. She is the smartest dog I've ever met, but my boy "Kiko" is a little on the dumb side. LOL I haven't had a puppy in so many years and I want to brush up on my skills, which is why I clicked on your video. I am going to post a couple of videos that I took of them within the next couple of days (you can see what I mean). I would love your input if you wouldn't mind. I love them so much and I am grateful for them! Now, with your videos to help me, I will train them the right way! :-)
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@@lennytheloon I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. But 13 years is a nice, long life, and I can tell he was loved. Thank you for being a good dog owner, and thank you for your kind words and support! ❤️💕
As far as having two puppies around the same age, I would highly recommend spending time to work with them individually, as well as together. And give them alone time away from each other. We don't want them to develop Littermate Syndrome, especially with such powerful dogs. I recently wrote an article about it, and how to avoid it with puppies, which I'll leave a link to below if you'd like to check it out.
Thanks again for watching and commenting. I really appreciate your engagement and support. Good luck with your pups, and I can't wait to see your video. If there's anything you need, please don't hesitate to reach out. ❤️💕
www.someminordogtraining.com/blog/LittermateSyndrome
I just read your article. I never heard of Litter-mate Syndrome but I was looking up puppies biting each other and playing rough the other day. Thankfully, I did get them each a dog cage of their own and they are on wheels so moving them away from each other is no problem at all. I think you just saved me from heartbreak and danger. You are my new favorite TH-camr! @@SomeMinorDogTraining
@@lennytheloon I'm glad you were able to get something out of it. Thanks for taking the time to check it out. I'm so happy that your puppies found their forever home with you. It's very clear to me that you're a loving, responsible dog owner. Keep up the good work. I really appreciate your support! ❤️💕
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing!
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We purchased one at the Royal Canin dog show a couple of weeks ago so we'd be ready for Toby.
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Thank you Some Minor Dog Training and Goole AI for bringing this to me
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Opposition reflex is defined wrongly in this video. The term opposition, is from the root word opposite. You push into me, I push back into you. Commonly we use opposition reflex to teach a sit stay. While the dog is in the sit position, we use the slip lead to attempt to pull the dog out of position. The dog opposes the reflex by planting its butt in place. This is explained by the principle of physics that states that for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction.
What you are actually teaching in your example is for the dog to yield to pressure from the leash. It’s a form of negative reinforcement. The pressure from the leash is uncomfortable, teaching the dog to go with the direction of pressure to escape the sensation.
Incidentally, any tool can have negative effects depending on how it is used. Too much pressure with the slip lead can also, and probably more quickly, damage the larynx.
Your example also fails because you don’t wear the flat collar correctly on the dog. If you tighten the collar until it is snug, the pressure from you pulling on it will be distributed more uniformly around the neck. This device is often worn in protection dog sports to back tie or post up the dog because of its ability to distribute pressure around the neck. It’s not an effective correction collar and was never designed for this purpose.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! You mentioned that my definition of "opposition reflex" is incorrect. The definition i offered is that when a dog feels pressure, they will push into that pressure, which is exactly what you said. In your example with "sit," when you pull on the leash you're putting pressure on the back of the dog's neck (assuming you're standing in front of them), so the dog leans backwards, into the pressure.
Yes, I'm teaching the dog to give in to leash pressure. I only mention the opposition reflex to illustrate why we want to teach them how to properly respond to leash pressure. Yes, pressure from any tool can cause larynx injury, but because of the pressure-and-release mechanism of the slip lead, the pressure isn't being put on a single part of the neck, and it's pressure, not a pull. With a flat collar, regardless of how it's fitted, it will always put more pressure on a single part of the neck if the leash is pulled, just because of the design.
Regarding the flat collar, it's loose on purpose, to illustrate where the pressure is on the dog when pulled from different angles. But yes, if I were actually using the collar it would be adjusted properly.
I'm sorry you feel it's not a good tool. Different strokes for different folks. I've been using them successfully for over a decade, and I've always found them to be very helpful in delivering clear communication to the dog. And that's what it's all about with any tool: Communication.
Thanks again for taking the time to watch and comment! 🐶❤️
@ Let’s have an academic discussion here. What I am trying to point out is not that the slip lead is a bad or ineffective tool, but that you are using the wrong training terminology. Use of a slip lead, choke collar or pinch collar is done by teaching the dog to yield to pressure, ( move with it.) This isn’t what happens with oppositional reflex training. It’s actually quite the opposite. In my example, I try to pull the dog out of a sit, and oppositional reflex kicks in, and the dog’s response is oh, no, buddy I am staying right here. In contrast, what you are teaching with slip lead training is to yield to pressure. I pull you and you think , maybe if I move towards this pressure, it will be neutralized.
You are training the collar correctly, but not using the right terminology to explain why the training works.
Let me give you another example of the effective use of oppositional reflex from my personal dog. I have a female Malinois who is currently 20 months old. We are training in IGP sport. Like many of her breed, she is very possessive of her toys. I use a lot of interactive play in my training. The problem was that once I released the toy to her, she would not bring it back to me. I fixed this problem with oppositional reflex. While tugging with her, instead of passively releasing the toy to her, I would actively use the toy to toss her away from me. Her reaction was oh, heck no, and she quickly re-engaged. Now if I toss her toy, she drives hard into it, and immediately slams it back into me. I frequently reinforce the behavior, as it helps tremendously with her obedience training.
Again, I like the slip lead. It’s a great tool, but you use the wrong terminology to describe why it works. Otherwise a good video.
@@deanbalouris330 I see what you're saying. Thank you for clarifying. I think there's an error in communication. I never say in the video that I'm doing opposition reflex training. I don't say anything about using the opposition reflex in training. The only time I mention it is to illustrate that the opposition reflex can accidentally cause pulling.
My exact words are "... It's the same with our dogs, except a little bit more, because this, pulling on my shirt, is annoying, but the opposition reflex is an automatic thing. So if we put the dog into the mindset of leaning into that pressure, then it's going to be a lot easier for them to stop paying attention to what we're doing, and start paying attention to what's on the other side of that pressure." That's the only time I mention the opposition reflex.
So I'm unclear where I'm using the incorrect terminology about the opposition reflex, or about how the slip lead works, because I never mention the opposition reflex in regards to that, or anything other than the quote I left above. And all I say in regards to how the slip lead works is that it works on a pressure and release system, where the pressure means stop and the release of pressure means go. You're correct that's negative reinforcement, but I don't even use a term to describe the mechanism, other than "pressure and release." Can you clarify?
WHAT A GREAT VIDEO YOU HAVE A NEW SUBSCRIBER. I WISH YOU WERE A LOCAL TRAINER TO ME IN MICHIGAN. I WOULD HIRE YOU IN A SECOND
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I am a new subscriber too!
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Slip lead is just a choke chain made of rope.
Correct. There are slip COLLARS, as well, which are just slip leads without the long handle, so they're literally the exact same thing as the choke chain. But, regardless, you are correct. I think a big difference, however, is that the slip lead doesn't slide down the dogs neck.
Depending on the dog's posture and the fur texture, both sometimes do and don't slide. The main difference is that the chain makes a noise when it tightens which is helpful to the dog. Chains also don't need to be washed, don't wear out, and carry a negative stigma
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@@Camphorous very well said, and very good points. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. ❤️💕
No it is not.
A choke chain goes around the throat..
@@EdithBrown-v2d to be fair, for maximum efficiency, the choke chain should be positioned just like the slip leash (as close to the ears as possible). Just like with the slip leash, the choke chain isn't designed to have the dog in front of you, but rather beside or behind you.