How to give a proper leash correction in order to transition to off leash control
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- Giving a good leash correction that is effective and doesn't hurt the dog is necessary to training loose leash walking then transitioning to off leash control. In this video Joel breaks down why it's necessary and how to give it.
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My girlfriend has a dog with (people) bite history and super reactive on leash to dogs and people. This dog is basically one incident away from having to be put down. This method has been the ONLY thing that has worked--and it worked very first session. Seriously, thank you.
Dudddee I was on my wits end with my dog and her leash reactivity. After watching this video we switched from harness to collar and gave the correct corrections and the difference is like day and night!!!! THANK YOU!! I feel like I can finally enjoy my dog without having this stress overload our relationship
This dudes attitude is amazing. Takes no shit no excuses make it happen kind of mindset
"this dog is perfect, lets get a different dog!" hahaha things only a trainer would say!
Lmao exactly
Yeah that got me real good too! 😄
I love that you get a real example of a dog not listening to you instead of the behaved one and show a real world example.
I have learned so much from these videos! I understand better and I completely agree with the viewpoint on discipline for dogs. I have always been very interested in the psychological and sociological dynamics between people and animals of different types and as for dogs, this channel is the best I have come across. Thanku
WOW, I commented before - impressive results almost immediately. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
This is great! I am noticing a difference in my dogs pulling just a few days. Thank you!
I'm so happy I found this channel. This is pretty much how I brought up my dogs in the past, and they had their quirks but were mostly well-behaved and obedient. A couple of weeks ago I got a rescue senior dog from the shelter and got instructed to do the 'positive only' method as they said they followed that in the shelter, and constantly kept feeding the dogs pieces of chicken... Boy, what a disaster. I followed the method to the letter and discovered that the dog ended up hyper leash-reactive, lunging and barking at everyone, and pretty much lacking any basic leash skills unless unless constantly fed... After a week I ditched all the positive-only nonsense and started following the common sense method. On day one we made more progress than during the week of positive-only method, and both ended up having a good, short and sweet walk that ended the moment he got over-excited, instead of both being the frustrated mess whom everyone shouts at. He seems more relaxed knowing who's the boss rather than being constantly 'encouraged' with chicken. I actually started wondering if in his 8 years of life he has never been taught any basic dog skills, or whether he did somehow forget all of them during that 'positive only' shelter stay...
Glad I watched this I have a flat collar on my GSD I was ready to put a choke chain on her as I just couldn't get her to stop sniffling as I take her on our walk she works so hard for me I also give her 30 min of her walk of leash I will watch the rest of your work for new things to train thank you
i am absolutly blown away. I have had my pitty for just about 4 years now, and have ALWAYS struggled with her insane pulling. I never want to take her anywhere becuase the its just a miserable experience. Anything outside perhaps a 2 block radious/unfamiliar territory she just pulls like crazy. I have tried the gentle leader, a prong collar, a trainer I overpaid , the easy walk, tons of treats... nothing has worked. I had given up for a while and then heard about leash popping. I decided to learn more and found your video. I went out with her. she started to pull at the door, i did as you instructed and she immediately turned around and came back to me. Thank you SO SO SO MUCH!!! This completly changes the life i can live with my dog and just goes to show, that at 6 years old, its still not too late
Great video. I think most people with dogs that are fully acclimated may not respond as well with them as they do you. I know from experience and I think your handling is superb. Bravo brother!
Thanks for your videos. I have used your methods to train my American Bully and Presa Canario and I’m very impressed. Obv I’m not a new dog handler with a Presa and Bully but I have for sure learned a few things to dial things in. I appreciate you making the videos
Your dead on about the gentle leader ! I tried a prong collar with my Catahoula and he would throw a fit with every correction. With a gentle leader he's like "Ahhh , you want me do this" and obeys without issue.....amazing results instantly
I love your willingness to call CRAZY- "crazy". When you added "PC Nonsense" I knew I was going to like this video.
Short and precise to the point. Will try your technique and demeanor tomorrow.
We take our 2 yr old Yellow 73 lb. Yellow American Lab on leash walks daily and have allowed him to wander wherever he chooses to go. We felt he needed to be able to do this as our yard is not dog-proof fenced and we can not just let him out on his own. (He has one small fenced area where he can safely roam) We have tried to make him understand his ‘yard boundaries’ by being outside with him and recall him when he goes off property. We also take him to a friend’s acreage where he can run freely off-leash.
He is a sweet, very friendly dog but gets super excited when he sees people or other dogs and pulls on the leash to jump up on them. We realize that we have totally given our dog conflicting messages on how to behave when walking on leash so when we need him to stay close and behave it is impossible and he is a very strong boy.
We always feel we need to let him burn off his off the charts energy but we know that our dog is the one taking us for a walk and we have to end that. We dont want to continue with these confusing leash walking practises or initiate any other harmful routines with our dog.
We watch all your videos and feel we know have a good idea of what we need to do but still are not sure how much ‘freedom’, off-leash vs leash, in a day a dog needs. We have ordered a ‘Gentle leader’.
Thank you for any suggestions you can give.
Super refreshing to see some straightforward dog training without all the tools and gadgets in your hands and on the dog when it's not necessary! This is how they did it for thousands of years before all the technology, people!
Agreed they act like they’re were no good dogs before this whole positive reinforcement wave
Clever way of demonstrating this method. How does this guy not have a wider following.
I have been watching your videos for some time, this loose leash walking method really works!! My dog reacts less when he is on leash than he used to, and I no longer need to bring treats with me every time I walk the dog.
Great to hear Rachel
I have to try this with my GSD pup! He does check in with me but sometimes doesn't listen when I try to get his attention. I know pulling on the leash is not good and I do admit I do it in frustration. I will definitely try this 'pop' method!! Thank you, very informative video!
My sentiment exactly of last comment, no nonsense easy to follow guidance.
Both of these dogs were super mellow. I wanna see a if-it-moves-I-chase-it dog. My dog has improved a lot but used to lunge/bark at everything that moves (bikes, motorcycles, skateboards, joggers, dogs, cats, squirrels, birds) plus energy level 10. I do like that your method doesn't require any special equipment and doesn't hurt the dog.
Try this with your dog. I was told that mine would have to be on in a head collar or a gentle leader harness for life, due to her high (but healthy) prey drive, and she wants to be friends with every human and with every dog. (She’s 2 parts shepherd, so she’ll always want to chase & herd.)
So.. The gentle leader immediately helped stop her pulling, but, eventually, she started pulling again even with the gentle leader harness. I don’t like how much it pulls against her without her backing down.
After 6 months of using those daily (2 walks a day), I watched this Beckman video. Then, I watched a Fenrir Canine video showing pretty much the same thing. I implemented their technique shown in this video, and within *LESS than ONE min,* my dog completely stopped pulling even as I switched directions!!! I thought the day would never come, and it happened in under ONE minute. I haven’t put the gentle leader harness nor the head collar on my dog since that day.
To put it in perspective.. I live in an area where coyote, deer & large loud birds come in our backyards, plus our neighbourhood has a few woods around us. That’s in addition to the many squirrels, rabbits, cyclists & joggers live here doing their thing.
Most significantly, however, are all the dogs that are out on their daily walks. Many of them are adopted dogs whose owners make excuses for about their behaviour, citing trauma (instead of working on learning how to calm their dogs which is much healthier for the dog, but that’s a diff story).
Five tips from me would be:
1.) Use the gentle leader for about 2 - 4 weeks first.
2.) Do the shown direction-change technique several times at home, but also do it several randomly outside during the walk when there aren’t any distractions. Do it deliberately just to do it.
3.) On the walk, as soon as you see a distraction (bikes, joggers, squirrels, birds etc), say your dog’s name + heel command _right_ before changing direction, and do the correction _right away_ if the command wasn’t obeyed..buuuut.. immediately after the correction, continue to do some more back-to-back direction changes until your dog’s focus is on you, or on their heel.
4.) For this, only say two things: the heel/come command..and the praise when your dog makes the right choice by him/herself. Don’t say anything else to your dog.
5.) Most importantly, change your body language & facial expression. Look tough but not mean. Your dog needs to you know you’re the boss & that you’re there to guide him/her because _you_ know how to be calm & collected. This is the most important tip because it transferred to everything else..recall, drop it, leave it etc. I just mimicked Beckman’s demeanour and my dog instantly knew that I’m not taking bs anymore.
Best part about this is that the obedience transferred over to other aspects & situations, right away. My dog simply respects me more without being fearful. The second best thing about it is that I didn’t have to use any treat at all, and my dog didn’t even expect any, even though the treat pouch was on my other hip.
Good luck!
@@donion2122 Thanks for your advice. Gentle leader isn’t ideal for my minpin (I’ve tried it) because a) he’s very small and it ends up in his eyes, and b) he has some kind of lip inflammation (vets can’t figure out what it is) that would only be irritated by the gentle leader. I have been implementing Beckman’s training methods and it has helped a lot. I feel I am a firm, calm leader. I just feel like the bikes are a super trigger for some reason and I haven’t found the magic bullet yet. I’ll keep working with him and never give up. I’m glad you have found success with your dog!
@@aslrunner Don’t use the gentle leader head collar. Use the gentle leader body harness; it only goes on the torso. When your dog is calm around a moving bike etc, mark & reward, but _only_ when your dog’s calm. It’ll reinforce that good things happen when he doesn’t react. An easy way to get to this point is to distract your dog _before_ the bike etc get close. Engage your dog & smile genuinely while marking & rewarding simply for paying attention to you. By the time the bike etc come by, your dog will notice the bike, and in that split second, mark & reward with a high value treat & _immediately_ & just keep rewarding with small high value treats one after the other. This will keep the focus on treats while bikes etc go by, which will build that positive reinforcement with bikes. Have a friend or family member practice it with you, pretending to be a cyclist etc.
Good luck!
@@donion2122 Thanks. He’s been on a front clipping harness for a while now, which I like. I have been doing the technique you recommend but he triggers at bikes super early, like 1/4 mile away. I have asked a neighbor to practice with us but haven’t actually done it yet. I’ll keep trying. We did have some success with being him on the water yesterday (kayak and paddle board). Less whining than previously, so I’ll take my wins where I can get them. 😁
@@aslrunner From your last response, I assume that you have patience. I didn’t have patience at first with my dog. Once I became calm with barely speaking no matter what my dog did, things changed. How old is your dog?
Thanks for showing the actual "pop", so many of these talk about positioning only.
Joel🤣, that 3:00 mark was funny! Can’t wait to implement your methods on our new addition soon!
Nice lesson. Your dog in this Video looks just like my Bo. I loved that dog, big red and a sweetheart but very protective of my family. He was easy to train. Dobermans are great dogs.
Great video👍🏽 Thank you!
At 10:50 I thought the cameraman should have gotten a correction for leaving you! This is so helpful- Thank you!!!
You trained those dogs to walk that nicely on a flat collar?!Impressive!My dog completely ignores the flat.I have to use a slip lead.
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Holy sh*t dude! It took me one hour of training with my Aussie shepherd like this and he's like a different dog! I can even run with him now without having him jumping up
so helpful.. thanks
You sort of look like David Arquette and Tony Hawk’s love child. Great video, it’s helped plenty.
Cool!! A video I haven’t seen yet.
Thank you!
Just found your channel and enjoying your videos. Can you do this technique in a higher distraction environment? Or do you need to have it solidly established in a low distraction environment (like a driveway) before you can try something harder?
Brilliant, again!
Very insightful. How early would you start introducing loose leash with corrections? Thanks.
AGREE so much with your approach of not overusing treats! I learned on the old pop and release with a choke collar back in the 1980s - my trainer was ahead of his time for using verbal praise and petting (back then it was more jerk and choke in many of the classes). Recently, I had a young Vizsla who was the worst leash walker/puller in 30 years! all the classes I went to for training and loose lead walking were treat treat treat and guide guide guide! Ridiculous! NOTHING worked with this very strong, very smart and willful girl -- until I went back to my roots from Jim Carey and used this pop and release method. Thank you!
Can you do video about that method used in major destructions etc. running dogs in the yard?
I have been doing the corrections wrong this whole time. Do you have any advice/ training tips for households with multiple dogs?
Would you use the same correction using a gentle leader? A have a Great Dane who walks beautifully on a gentle leader but we are working on her leash reactivity to other dogs
Thank u
2 questions 1 where do you train (what state)? 2 do you train different types of dogs like huskies?
Think it would be ok to add a command like "walk nicely"? Then also transition that to off leash? Im just wondering how the dog will know it needs to walk close to me when off leash without a cue. Or it should always walk close and nice until i give the free, but then again from free too walk nicely, right?
does this work with a 5 month old puppy in a harness or is it just for older dogs on a collar? l know a 5 month old is young to train but he constantly pulls.
Are you using a slip lead or choker collar ?
I have a yorkie that never listen to me on walks, I have her on a harness how can I do the same without using her collar ? Is it the same method?? Plus she's smaller in size and it makes it difficult for me to train her outside
Man I would love to spend a month, week (hell even a day!) shadowing you and your trainers. I started my training journey five years ago with Petsmart (been out of the big box for a year now and working "normal" jobs) and I'm always missing working with dogs. Great video once again!
At what age are corrections appropriate? My dog is 5 months old and I'm using the treat method and would love to stop!
Is it OK to use this method with a 6 month old Lab puppy? As in, age appropriate. My pup is pulling a bit and I've been training him to loose leash walking with a harness clipped in front (his chest), it's been on and off. Not too bad, but not great either.
Does the correction work if the dog has a vest on ?
Thanks for this video!
I'm gonna go a tad off-topic but you brought up training methods so...
You know... I wish that videos where people talk about corrections could also let people know all about how powerful positive reinforcement is and how much amazing fun you can have with your dog by using primarily (tho not exclusively) that approach.
On the other end, I also wish that the positive-only crowd could truly observe the way a lot of trainers use corrections to give their dogs information about what they are doing "wrong" to help clarify the goal for the dog. That they could see how it can be done in a way that is merely unappealing or a bit uncomfortable for the dog with out scaring or hurting him/her (think blood-pressure cuff. Do I like it? No, but it's no biggie.)
I often think the folks really into corrections may not be aware of the power of positive reinforcement training when it's done correctly which includes phasing out treats and also using all kinds of "Life Rewards" (i.e. get to jump into the car, or walk into a room, or eat their food, or jump up onto a couch etc): Perform a command before each of these things. These and many other things constitutes GOOD positive reinforcement training.
Going back to the other side: a lot of the folks who condemn any kind of training tools or corrections I really believe either have either likely and sadly, their own abuse issues from their childhoods or an unwillingness to see how harmless simple corrections can be when done humanely.
Ah, if only we lived in a balanced world.. then again I'm a registered Independent so perhaps that's just my nature... I like to think for myself on everything. We have way too much black or white/ "all or nothing" thinking in this world if you ask me. There is a banquet of ideas out there from all camps. How about we bring in the best ideas from all ways of training?!
Thanks for this video! I learned a couple cool things to add to my bag of tricks :)
Stay safe and healthy all!
There are also people condemning training tools and corrections that either have never had any experience with them, so they misunderstand them, OR they have never worked with certain breeds that almost without exception require more than just positive only for impulse control. Not to say every dog of a certain breed will require them, just that MOST of that particular breed will require some form of non-positive training in some area of obedience, etc, until they are more mature and mellow.
I like him because he’s not all about treats
Positive reinforcement has been proven to be the most effective way of training a dog. Punishment like this only causes fear, stress, and possibly aggression.
American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior: www.sfanimalcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Why-We-Dont-Punish.pdf
@@Adrians1999 Actually the evidence shows you are incorrect and that Joel's method is very effective.
Great training! I have had 2 dobermans and they both pulled! Even with training! When the trainer did it they were good. The male was good after a good workout. The female as well but pulled much more. Do you give private lessons? What state are you in?
Yes. San Diego.
What do u feed ur dogs as in hard food
Really enjoy these videos. What if the problem isn't pulling on the leash but that my puppy (4.5 months) wants to stop and smell everything and won't follow?
Generally speaking let him smell, it’s good for their brain especially at that age
I'm trying to train myself to use little to no pressure on my Vizsla using a slip lead, I've found this does work well for my boy until he is completely distracted by a cat/squirrel. I place it high up behind his ears for complete control and when hes walking nicely to heal I'll loosen it off.
My Q. to you is, should I correct in the same way as a flat collar, low to the side. I'm always concerned just how much pressure I'm putting on his neck during correction Thank you. Good video👍
Cat's and squirrels can be very difficult for dogs to ignore. You're right to make the goal little to no pressure, but pressure/corrections is generally how you train the behavior initially until the dog understands that pulling/lunging only results in hitting the end of the lead (the correction) and never getting or even getting closer to the cat. So to answer your question, yes, the correction should be given down and to the side, this minimizes pressure on the trachea and counters the dogs strength because it takes away their balance a bit. I also highly recommend gentle leaders, i just did a youtube video on conditioning and using them that you might find interesting.
"Were gonna use live dogs"
Lol I hope so
What if you pop the leash and the dog dosen't seem to care? Are pitbull mix breeds from a pound hard to train?
I don’t think this will work on my two boys. 1 is a english bull mastiff mix American bulldog an hes 3, pulls very hard so i have to use a prong collar on him. The son of him is my dog an hes that breed but mixed with pitbull an he pulls hard too so maybe it’ll work on him? I use prong collars on both for a ‘nice’ walk
How hard do you correct?
Joel do you do remote consultations at all?
Yes you can sign up for a zoom session or phone session at beckmansdogtraining.com
Question here if anyone can answer if your doing this with a puppy specifically a German Shepard ( 4 month big baby) and they listen a couple times then start to mouth defiantly and give protest barks do you continue and just address the leash pulling or walking away or do you not even continue the walk until they’re not biting at you ? When I say biting I mean nipping defiantly lol just to clear that up
11:20 when that fuckimg fly went by, it scared the shit out of me
What if your dog doesnt want to walk? I have a bulldog that time to time stops and are not walking.
There’s three main factors to a dog not wanting to walk, fear, tiredness, or “I don’t feel like it, so I’m not going to do it”. You’ve got to figure out which one it is. If it’s fear, do short sweet walks, keep it positive and do other things to address the fear. If it’s tiredness, maybe decrease diet, change diet and maybe just realize you’ve got a dog that doesn’t have a lot of energy. But the last one is the most prevalent. Them just being insubordinate, you may have to lure with treats or use the trudge method as I call it, basically just keep walking, they will offer realize that don’t have a say in the matter and just start walking. Hope that helps
What do you do when corrections don’t work? My 9 month old couldn’t give a toss! He just takes it, most of the time self corrects as he will always put himself back into a heel when he reaches the end of his leash - but he eventually winds himself up and starts running ahead and hitting the end and flipping back running back to heel position and so on - especially if he see’s dogs or people and knows where we are going - can be even worse when he doesn’t know where we are going. He heels - takes treat and leaves me every time. He’s so smart but in his own way. Trying to stop treating but then he NEVER takes notice of me and that’s on only using positive reinforcement
Did you figure it out? Same issue 🥹
I have a 5 month old Doberman , he likes to stop and turn and look at people when they walk past me and will go towards other dogs , is he too young to be on this ? He’s a very big boy and has a lot of strength , I don’t want to him to think he has more control than me down the line
Jonathan Arroyo, your dogs pretty young. While the method I use in this video isn’t harsh, I always recommend going pretty soft on younger dogs, their brain is developing and he’s going through a fear period so go a bit softer for now, then later you can fix problems as they arise. Hope that helps.
Hey great video. I tried this method with my dog and it’s not working like how it should be. I am currently using a martingale collar on my dog and I give her a correction whenever she tries to leave me.
However she seems unresponsive to the leash correction. Is there anyway to fix that?
Kindly advise, thanks
Tomorrow I’m going to make a video breaking down the leash correction so you guys can do it near perfectly
@@BDTraining Hey good job man. My dog basically just sniff around and find things to pick up all the time. What would you advice I do?
How about leash correction with harness will that work as well?
It doesn't work as well. It just jerks their body around. The leash pop I use is down and to the side, which takes away their power because it throws their balance off a bit. Hope that helps.
I have a Shelter dog and She pulls crazy in the beguining and Now shes better but also I have a Harness but She gets confused I believe when I correct her..
Also, She rarely or Never looks AT me and trys Always go infront of me no matter What..I'm gonna try gentle leader
We have a malinois that was quite a puller and really reactive to dogs, we used this technique with a front clip harness, since then we've had peaceful walks and she don't even bat an eye at the sight of other dogs. I am really thankful to Beckman and those videos !!
@@louloukinomoto6249 Thanks! Gentle leader my dog pulled to hard and manage to break it :S
Haha he’s being perfect… new dog!
Had to laugh.
You should’ve gone near nature strips and grass.
I’m using this method on my dog and slowly slowly….
I could only wish for my 5 month old collie puppy to go ahead of me.... he walks behind me to the point I have to wait for him.
So I have a 2 year old pug who goes crazy when he see's other dogs. I've tried following these reactive dog leash correction videos but he seems to sniff everywhere and doesn't pay much attention to us. As soon as there's another dog within sight, any hope of having his attention is gone, along with him trying to belt to them!
Any advice you can give will be much appreciated!
Don't correct reactivity towards other dogs it can make it worse. Counter conditioning is much better for changing the underlying emotion causing the behavior.
@@kas36spires hello, would you have a video to offer showing the implementation of your suggestion. Thanks.
Thank you for this! I’m definitely seeing improvement in our walks. I wanted to ask, is there anything I should look out for to prevent injuring her throat? Also, my dog likes to lie down on walks. I can’t tell if she’s tired or lazy. Do I still apply the same leash correction as if she were standing and staying behind as in your video?
“We are gonna use live dogs”
The dead dogs: 👀
At what age can I start this. My pup is 6 months
This pup is a dobie. I'm biased. I have the most beautiful one. They are super sensitive and trainable for the right owner.
Use a crazy LITTLE DOG - they walk fast and never walk that slow, even when Zepplin was 'leaving" was slow. Use a wired, constantly moving little Cairn.
I have a 7 month old labrador puppy and he just cant focus on me when we go for a walk, at what age should i use this method of training?
Yes this method will work. But remember 7m old dogs are going through a pretty severe “fear period”, my dog at 7m old would come out of the house and be looking all over and super shifty, this is because his senses are being assaulted and his brain can’t focus. So be very patient on walks with any dog that’s under a year. Hope that helps
@@BDTraining so what age will a labs can be more focus and start paying attention to their owners? Is it a year?
@@peterparker9508 Yes they focus a bit more around a year, but each dog is different. Keep going on a lot of walks as he’ll desensitize to the world. Have you ever seen a homeless persons dog pulling them or be unfocused? Probably not, mainly because they walk their dogs a lot🙂
@@BDTraining thankyou for the information
@@peterparker9508 a 7 month old pup is like a 13-14 year old teenager. Confused/shy/awkward/weird/disobedient....
At 1, your dog will seem much better......and at 2, you'll finally start seeing an adult dog.
My lab is 2.5 years old and is getting better all the time ;)
Plus labs are slow to mature......more so than other breeds.
12:37 tell em beckman
I love your videos!! I know it’s an old video but do you really still think e collars / prongs are abusive lol :/
I don’t believe that? Did I say they’re abusive in this video?
@@BDTraining 1:46 “punishing methods” when talking about prong/e collar, sorry not the word abusive.
I’ve watched every video of yours and this one is old so I understand if this view has changed or taken out of mis context. Not upset lol just surprised by that take!
@@alexandriag6606 “punishing methods” isn’t bad and is the correct term for those tools. I use the term “punishment” operant which simply means to reduce a behavior. I’m glad I didn’t use the word abusive, because that’s a lot worse than punishment
@@BDTraining I agree! I just got the negative word association thinking you were against them. That understanding makes a lot of sense now, & I really appreciate you clearing this + replying!!
I’m having a hard time with this pop on my 150 10 month old newf
How do I pop so he actually feels it
You’re basically walking a small horse. What do they use on horses? A head halter. So you should us a Halti or Gentle Leader! And is the methods outlined in this video. Then you can fad of the GL eventually. Watch my video on conditioning a GL, the thumbnail is of me with a Great Dane.
@@BDTraining dogs aren't horses. Dogs have a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT head structure than a horse. Gentle leaders/halties are known to cause damage to the nose and neck and spine.
@@EarthlingCanine I’ve trained hundreds of dogs with head halters, never an injury. You must be doing it wrong if you’re causing injuries to dogs with head halters.
@@BDTraining I've watched dogs get spine injuries from trying to bolt at a trigger, get their head snapped back, and it nearly broke their neck. I've met individuals who's dogs did break their necks on a head halter because they tried to bolt. I've seen several dogs get rashes, lose fur, and whine and paw at their faces in pain all from head halters. They are especially known to cause damage to the spine to dogs who are stubborn. No matter how gentle you want to make it seem, EVERY correction/redirection gets their head tugged up and to the side which is how your SUPPOSED to correct/redirect. Even on a horse (which again has a completely different facial structure and the halter of a horse is specifically designed NOT to put pressure on sensitive areas which is not true for ones made for dogs) redirection/leading is done with pressure down to the side, not up.
I'd loooove to see YOU put on a dog head halter and have your head tugged to the side the same way a dogs is when it's corrected on one. UP and to the side. And you can't brace yourself for it either because a dog that's never had one on won't be prepared to brace itself for the pain it's about to experience. There's a reason even dogs highly positively conditioned to head halters will STILL claw at their face if they are not doing something else that prevents them from doing so. It's called learned helplessness, it causes so much pain that it requires extensive positive reinforcement and even then if a dog can it WILL try to get it off.
@@BDTraining also the fact you think it's okay to YANK (and you absolutely did yank three times now. And you compare dogs to kids? I'd like to see you yank a kid like that on a leash considering you believe they learn so similarly) a dog on a leash to teach it to walk on a leash is so "professional" and perfectly fine? Yeah because causing pain and risking a collapsed trachea or damaged spine is fine as long as it doesn't "hurt" the dog.
I've been doing this with my Dobermann for hours and he's still not getting it
Sometimes it's hard to hear you. On body mic would be appreciated.
My dog did not want to walk at all after a couple corrections.
Does this work with a harness instead of a collar?
Ariel Stevens, it really doesn’t, the power of the “correction” is that it’s a pop and redirects the dog. A harness really doesn’t do that. Harnesses have their place but training loose leash walking isn’t one of them. Thanks for the question Ariel.
@@BDTraining Thank you! I have a 5 month old lab trying to walk him is a nightmare. He likes to chew on the leash.
Ariel Stevens I highly recommend gentle leaders for difficult walking dogs
@@BDTraining What about using bitter apple on the leash? Haven't needed it yet but know it's very recommended...
@@arielstevens teach him "drop it" and treat him everytime he drops the leash.
My big problem is my dog constantly has net nose to the ground sniffing and eating grass and stuff. I just can’t get her to stop. No matter what I do.
Try to use more treats to get her attention up on you
I've been doing it wrong! Sigh! My dog tries to zoom off like a torpedo sometimes.
Could really use a more detailed explanation of how to learn to do the correction. Also how to do it when the dog lunges and leash becomes tight.
Agreed....I have Boston Terrier and leash is always tight (when walking in a new/novel neighbourhood). My serious corrections are ignored. If I stop he will stop and sit....then back to pulling me everywhere.
Did a bee just fart bomb the video at 11:18???!!!
Can you show me how to do this from my wheelchair
Oh, .. “..giving a ‘pop’ and a to the side tug, instead of pulling a dog for correction.” I have a great dog, so I think he’ll forgive me for dragging him like a dead-weight when he wasn’t coming. It will go better tomorrow!
Must be doing something wrong with my beagle! Tried it and she keeps pulling :(
E collars are not just for punishment...
Dakota&Blessing ServiceTeam This is going to be interesting. So what are they for?
Beckman's Dog Training off leash training your dog! Use their working level (which is a level they can barley feel.. they won’t even show any signs of feeling it but they do) and later it over any WELL KNOWN command (in this case come)preferably taught with positive reinforcement. Engage the e collar (at first the dog will ignore the stim because it’s at such a low level) then say come, do this for a few reps. Do not recall from a stat recall during very minor distractions in the beginning. Gradually increasing the distractions and distance, aka proofing. Start practicing without the long line back in minor distractions then work your way up (you can that pretty easy now) and b you have an off leash dog! Yes if you want in a few months you can take the e collar off but I prefer to keep it on because the squirrel running across the busy freeway will be more attractive than your food or praise and dogs are not robots, they make mistakes. I would much rather have an insurance policy then a dead dog. For your average pet owner you can achieve this in 3 weeks to a couple months depending on your skill set. For a professional dog trainer such as my self I typically achieve this in around a week
Beckman's Dog Training they are also good for teaching pressure on and pressure off (on the working level) with well known obedience commands to help the dog learn to problem solve and usually the dog thinks the pressure on pressure off drills are just a huge game.. pressure off and pressure on can be used with anything not just obedience commands. I’m doing the same rn with my service dog for a formal retrieve. Yes they can be used for corrections but they also can be fun for the dog. My Service dog mutt and chocolate lab service dog in training both get very excited to put the e collar on
Beckman's Dog Training also got communication with deaf dogs... I mean.. sense you are a professional I expected you to be educated on the matter.
@@justagirlandherdogs615 I was being snarky when I said "this is going to be interesting, what are they for?". And I'm always cool with cool people but since your comment "since you are a professional I expected you to be educated on this matter", I'll just lay it out for you. So here's where you go wrong. First, your initial statement "they're not just used for Punishment", but that's what they are, they apply positive punishment (positive meaning to add) then when the shock stops negative reinforcement is applies, but negative reinforcement can't exist without the positive punishment, so the punishment aspect is the dominate trait of the shock collar. Second, you say "preferably taught with positive reinforcement", but you're not only using positive reinforcement, your also using the low level punishment of the shock, then applying positive reinforcement, but if the shock didn't work why not only use positive reinforcement. Third, your dog doesn't get excited because it likes the punishment associated with the shock collar, it likes the activities associated with the shock collar, it's a Pavlovian response. There is a place for shock collars in dog training and there's certainly a place for "punishment" in dog training. So your initial statement that they aren't just for punishment is wrong, they are just for punishment (nothing wrong with that), but don't get all the other things you're doing with a dog (often times within split seconds of the shock) confused with the singular "power" of the shock collar which is positive punishment instantly followed my negative reinforcement. Hopefully no hard feelings
I tried this with my 18 mo old doberman with plain flat collar. Does not faze her. Training i put her in trained her on ecollar. Now without this ecollar, she just does not listen. Its like she completely forgot her manners! On leash she is horrible. Off leash she normally will listen but not 100%. Out in public she is better than at home. She tunes me out at home. My driveway goes out to a 4 lane divided highway. I have no block to walk her. I travel constantly, home 1-2 times a month.
No place to walk & rarely home doesn't appear to be a great fit for consistent training/exercise especially for a Doberman. Good luck!
@@algoluvr1816 travelling as much as i do, i walk her daily in the evenings. I bought a recumbent bike to ride also so she can go farther. Only when im HOME she has noplace to walk.
A lot of your leash correction (bending down waiting for the dog to reach the end and popping the leash) is worse than a simple leach correction on a prong collar.
Must have a car tier dog then that.
11:17 air traffic control
But this isn't pulling.i could easily train my dog if this is how she "pulls"
Says don’t pull the dog first thing he does outside is pull the dog.
11:18 Big ass bug