It takes away its respects towards the Moissanite itself. If y’all just want a diamond then that’s great but don’t take away the Moissanites Shine by calling it an alternative to a diamond. Not all people love diamonds.
Yes so many jewelers on youtube keeping referring to it as "fake diamonds", diamonds have a HUGE markup, horrible resale value! Moissanite is nothing like a simulant that scratches etc. Moissanite is a lifelong stone that holds its resale value and is conflict free! If jewelers realized that getting on board opens up a whole new casual clientele they would get on board! I could never justify casual purchasing diamonds but I can afford gifts of good quality gold with stones like moissanite, morganite etc. It makes fine jewelery more everyday people friendly.
@@homewithstefanie Diamonds like any re-sale item lose value unless it is of a collectable, unique quality!!!! Taylors diamonds obtained big bucks by size, history, association and name!
Blood diamonds are hard to find these days with all the legislation and documentation required for diamonds moving around. We've seen a lot of good things happening the last decade in that regard! At the end of the day, it is nice we have so many alternatives to choose from. I hope the video was helpful.
That's how I felt buynig my engagement ring too. 100% fine buying a moissainte and then spending 2 months in europe instead of a natural diamond honetly. I have memories to last a lifetime now.
@@YourAverageJeweler not what I hear even thru da beers family... they are worse then a prison if you get caught stealing a little diamond unfinished! Moissanite wins in every category except the most at a 9.5 who cares! Stainless steel is a 6!! So mossinite is over 50% stronger then steal but a diamond is 60% stronger then steal.... again not impressed. Diamonds chip as easy as mossinite. Iv seen some F'ed up diamonds before. Mossinite is the future in jewelry making... think about this 100 miles deep there are more diamonds then gold by 1000s of times!! Mossinite is from an alienated stone from space! It's a very magical stone that a diamond wish it was!! Diamond suck plain and simple!!
I love my moissanite jewelry. I will take lab created all day. Diamonds are not rare and the practices surrounding them are questionable at best. Most people cant tell the difference. But, im proud to educate them.
@@zonk1477 Why does it matter? Silicon also falls in the carbon group, has all the same properties of carbon and as long as the stone looks and behaves like a diamond at a fraction of the cost of even lab grown diamonds, how does 100% carbon vs 50 Silicon - 50 Carbon matter? Also do you take your diamond ring and cut glass or scratch granite surfaces with it everyday? Then how does Mohs 10 or Mohs 9.25 matter? It's all that careful human psychological conditioning done by Cecil Rhodes' De Beers over 2 centuries that's responsible for so much environmental destruction caused during extraction of these worthless stones called diamonds. And diamonds are not even rare. All diamond companies have tremendous stockpiles but deliberately hoard them and release only few quantities into the market to keep prices jacked up. If people really got to know how much diamond supply there really is, the prices would tank and these crooks at De Beers would go bankrupt.
@@zonk1477 lab diamond moissanite and cz are all made in a lab... Moissanite is a natural mineral but the ones that are used in jewelry are all lab made
@@pokerqAK47 Lab grown diamonds are chemically, optically, physically EXACTLY the same as mined diamonds. Only difference is mined diamonds are formed in the earth over hundreds of thousands of years. Lab grown diamonds are formed in the lab over weeks/months. Both are DIAMONDS.
Moissanite is not even a diamond simulant it is its own gem, also why would you waste money on a lab grown diamond when you can't even resell it, as no jewellers buy lab diamonds, its pretty much synthetic. At the end of the day you buy it you wear it, you will still have issues with both, i have a diamond ring from Tiffany's and a Moissanite and i have more compliments with a Moissanite than a diamond, yet you spend all that money, humans have been conditioned to think diamonds are the best, all about status. Aint nobody know or care. At the end of the day we go the same way, you get what makes you happy
I agree with many of your statements. Definitely the reason that most of these alternatives exist is because people want different things. One point I might clarify, is that of moissanite being a diamond simulant. It is common within the jewelry industry that anything that imitates the look of diamond that is not actual diamond or Lab grown diamonds to be referred to as a diamond simulant because it simulates the look of diamond. I have heard in some circles they don’t like this term because moissanite is a mineral, but cubic zirconia often referred to as the most common diamond simulant is also a mineral. Both are usually and almost always exclusively lab grown stones with the main purpose of being alternatives to diamonds. Many colored gemstone alternatives and simulants are in fact some kind of gemstone. But they are referred to as an alternative because most are buying them to look like another more well-known our valuable gemstone. I acknowledge that there may be some preference in how people prefer to use these terms,But if we are talking about commonly excepted jewelry terms that is how you will hear it being presented. It may be that people are hearing the words simulant and synthetic as the same. Moissanite is not a synthetic( man made) diamond, but it is commonly referred to as a diamond simulant. I hope that clarification helps. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I think the point is that the diamond industry has a vested interest in using those terms. However, by their own logic, a diamond can be considered a moissanite simulant, but they aren't as bright. Buyers really don't care to support the diamond industry, they simply want either the meaningful point or the gift, and or they want something that captivates them. The business just doesn't matter. It's clear to me, the diamond industry does a great job of selling moissanite. They shoot themselves in the foot with their monopoly.
Diamonds are ultra expensive to buy but selling them will give you almost nothing. Try selling them in any kind of shop, they even ignore the diamonds and only give you money for the weight of gold contained in the piece of jewelry. Unless you have a piece of jewelry that is so unique and has been worn by a historical figure or a Hollywood star, perhaps you'll have the chance to make money for the diamonds at an auction then. The worth of diamonds is really just based on sentimental reasons.
Tiny nelee diamonds are basically worthless, however, anything over .01 carats is going to have some value even to a shop, as long as they aren't chipped or damaged. Having said that, selling diamonds to a shop is like selling bread to a baker. If you want to get money for your diamonds, sell on the secondary market.
@@vegasrenie I have a beautiful diamond ring that I going to have reset in rose gold. The jeweler had a ring similar to what I want to do & it looks gorgeous 😍
@@Jackaroo. I have 1 carat solitaire ring cost 2.5 thousand 25 years ago,(would be much more now) In perfect condition very good quality stone , took it to sell it,was offered £300 for it
Most gemstones nowadays are copied into simulants and diamonds are no exception. Cubic Zirconias are beautiful and so are Moissanites. If diamonds weren't so expensive there wouldn't be a need for alternatives.
Well moissanite optically is different some people like it some don't but even at the same price I can see both being an option based on what you subjectively find beautiful
I've had my Moissanite 1.5 ctw. earrings for 17-18 years now. I was well informed when I bought them that they could have a yellow/green tinge to them, but I have never noticed it to the naked eye. And even better, I've had many jewelers compliment my diamond earrings, and I always proudly let them know they're Moissanite instead of diamond. Those early days were fun because most jewelers had never seen, or heard of it. Are they a tough resell? Well, I've had jewelers offer to buy my earrings for twice my original investment.
I'm not into diamonds, and I was looking at a London blue topaz engagement ring when my husband offered to replace my aquamarine engagement ring and wedding band. (After 20 years of marriage and two children, I'd "outgrown" mine.) The jeweler I was buying from offered a ring in the style I was looking for in moissanite, so I had a look. Gorgeous! Far more gorgeous than the topaz I was looking at. I decided I preferred moissanite. I paired it with a twisted band, and I love it. When I bought it, I understood I'll have to treat it as I would a diamond, ie taking it off for cleaning house, doing physical work. My moissanite is pure white, and I love the sparkle! I paid more for the moissanite than I would have for the topaz, but a girl wants what she wants. I don't plan to ever sell it, will probably hand it down to one of my daughters, so who cares about resell value?
@@ccrisc100 - Actually, moissanite is second in hardness only to a diamond. You don't have to take it off for anything, either, but I'm pretty sure a lot of folks do remove their engagement rings to clean their toilet, whether they "have" to or not.
Moissanites are their own unique lab grown gemstones it shouldn’t be considered as an alternative of a diamond nor the fake version synthetic version of a diamond,
we didnt want to break the bank so we got a cz bridal set i get more compliments on that ring more than any other piece of jewelry i have ever owned we spend around 450 dollars
my guess is that because of the price, people are not gonna treat moissanite jewelry with the same TLC they would treat diamond jewelry, hence the reason for seeing more damage.
You're believing a lie though. I've heard of people cracking their diamond ain half but I never heard of anybodies Moissanite chipping. I have no idea what this nut is talking about. The Diamond Industry is probably sponsoring him to make these videos. he doesn't even wear diamonds.
This was a misleading propaganda video to show moissanite as a undesirable item and hype up diamonds which actually are the true fakes because they are not rare and they are really not worth that much. They are just hyped up by criminal cartels like deebeers.
If you're really preferring a diamond, why not talk about the lab grown diamonds that aren't mined and are pretty much identical to mined diamonds yet the cost is a fraction that of a mined diamond? Lab grown diamonds are environmentally friendly and the earth isn't destroyed to mine them and none of them are at risk of being considered a "blood diamond". The same for lab created Moissanite..... Both are absolutely gorgeous indeed!
Lab Grown is certainly a good option. I am a believer in the practical advantages of diamond, and of course lab grown diamond are still diamond. I plan to do a video more specific to the pros and cons of Lab grown diamond. Some of their ethical and environmental claims have been called into question in this past year, but there are specific companies that have a more transparent processes than others if that is a concern. Lab Grown diamonds have come with their own "baggage" unfortunately. I did mention some of these things when I talked about why Lab grown diamond is still expensive, but I have more planned coming up in the future. Thanks for your comment!
all things considered, hardness versus durability of a diamond is also contingent on the inclusions within the stone. A diamond with a major inclusion, for example, might be "harder" but can be easily fractured on that line. pricing of Moissanite versus CZ is basically about branding.
Awesome video! Thanks! I feel that diamonds are way over-priced thanks to lab created diamonds. Global market manipulation by the big diamond miners has shown that diamonds are way over-priced and very plentiful regardless of mining costs. You cant make gold in a lab and thats why gold still has tons of value...but since diamonds can be made in a lab, their value should be far less now.
It comes down to the ability to create and maintain a distinction between them, even if they're identical in all physical respects. People will pay more for items that they feel sets themselves apart from the rest, and the availability needs to be controlled and meted out slowly to avoid making it commonplace. When it gets to the point their neighbor can afford and buy one, then it's lost its value in their eyes. 😉
@dubmob151 I agree and we can dumb it all down to perception as you noted. Its all about perception and trust and agreement in the value of something. Thats the same case they make with cryptocurrencies these days. Natural vs lab does have its own difference in value, I agree. The price gap though is still way too big in my opinion. Everyone is wrapped up in green energy and saving the planet these days, and those who subscribe to all of that should come to the conclusion thay the human abuse and energy use, and cost expense, and destruction of the earth ultimately mean that this isnt worth mining these when lab is so similar. Personally I dont care about that aside from the human abuse factor.
We've been moving around a lot, and if I lost my real diamond/platinum wedding band, I'd be heartbroken. It stays in the safe deposit box. My moissanite/sterling silver ring is the one that gets to see the world! ;)
As both a graduate gemologist and gemstone faceter my advice is to stick with CZ since it has been around for a much longer time and the price has gone down to pennies per care. There are hundreds of designs and sizes available in CZ. The average person outside a very experienced gemologist or one who handles diamonds routinely for grading every day can't tell the difference just by looking at the stone if it is a Diamond, CZ or Moissanite. Why would you pay more than 20 times or more for Moissanite over CZ when it is only a diamond simulant?
I agree. after doing some research finds out that GRA moissanite is a fake company, i think moissanite has a blurry existence. Without a official certificate, moissanite can't be sell, has no value at all except for its hardness. But, since cz are much way more cheaper and looks the same as diamond and moissanite, then why do i go for more expensive alternatives? Without certificate, moissanite are just similar to cz.
CZ is just trash in comparison to Moissanite. And if you ever actually looked at the two, side by side, you’d know it. Clearly you haven’t seen moissanite
I love the fire of moissanite but the price has gotten very high. I think I would rather have Russian. Diopside or Iolite. A clear sapphire is beautiful. There are even some very nice quartz stones.
my wife has has a moissanite ring for over15 years no chipping at all...so the fact that you had are seen some chiped.. is un believable or the owner is just mishandling ther jewelry..over all to me moissanite looks better...and the price is a no brainer.
I just learned about Moissanite, and bought a tennis chain with Moissanite. Couple questions...is it possible to fake a moissanite gem? How do you tell if its fake? I know it can pass a diamond tester(basic diamond tester), but is there a way to use a CZ to appear to be a Moissanite? Maybe like some kind of special coating?
Thos video is disrespectful to.the moissanite. Its a natural stone with more reflective than a diamond and way less. diamonds coat way more than there value both moissantite and the diamond are on the same quality level. And moissanites arent just lab grown they are natural like diamond buddy 🤣
Exactly I'm with you... diamonds suck bro... mossinite wins in almost every category... even after 150 years, the diamond will start to turn milky inside, a mossinite will look the same as it did 1000 years... this guy doent know what he talking about iv seen diamonds chip like a MF... at 9.5 is crazy.... even hard ass stainless steal only a 6!!! Hahaha 🤣 like bro get the F out of here!! Mossinite is the future of jewlery! Just better then a diamond pure and simple... da beers owns 90% of diamonds anyways and hords most of them and inflate something that is in abundance 100 miles deep in the earth. There are mountains full of diamonds.... millions of times more diamonds then they are Mossinite!! He can't admit mossinite is just a better version of a diamond! Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I just bought a 5 carat Moissanite pendant for $130. My first impression upon taking it out of the package (it was mail-order), was that it looks cheap. Of course it is cheap compared to $2,000 pendant. But it sure does give off a lot of sparkle. It is far larger than any diamond I would ever buy, so it's not like I'm trying to pass it off as a diamond. But I came across a white zircon pendant also online, and am curious whether I'd like that more. What's the difference between natural Zircon and natural Moissanite? How do they compare? Which is more sparkly?
Read a Google answer that there are no natural moissanites used in jewellery due to its extreme rareness in nature. Seems that's my answer then, zircon is natural and Moissanite is man-made. I would prefer the natural.
@@billwayne3924 Update: I have since bought a natural clear zircon necklace and love it. It's a heavy silver boho design. I wear it a lot. The Moissanite one I got for $100. I found out is actually CZ. I was duped. I got a refund. I learned you won't be able to buy a 5 carat moissanite for $100., more like a 1 carat for $600. So I still don't know what they look like and am on the market for one.
I have nice white gold, 5 stone channel set moissanite ring. It's pretty. But, I agree, I think moissanite is way too expensive as a diamond simulant. And have heard about the yellow cast to the stones before altho I have never seen it myself. Never heard of the chipping, sounds better for earrings then. Good video.
I don’t understand why people get so offended. Moissanites are som alternatives to diamonds and so are Czs because people who want the look of the diamond but not the cost tend to look at these options. Now yes a moissanite is it’s own stone but a lot of people get it instead of a diamond so to me calling it an alternative is not offensive. To each their own, whatever they want to buy for their engagement ring is great! People also buy sapphires, emeralds, rubies, etc! It’s all preference
great video. since you did mention moissanites being slightly more brittle and not as hard as people think, i think this contributes to people being slightly more careless with moissanite Jewelry verses colored gems which people KNOW they need to take special care of. my wedding rings are all garnets i know it's not good to wear them everyday, work out in them, and have them on every single time i wash my hands if I want them to stay as close to as beautiful as the day i got my rings. anyway this was very informative. I'll make sure I add care instructions to my moissanite Jewelry designs thank you.
But diamond is worth more than Moissanite so if diamond has a better cut then why does Moissanite shine better? In fact many people don't like moissanite because of the "disco ball" effect which is almost absurd amount of "pop" in the light refraction. To me there is just no comparison moissanite vastly superior to CZ
I am a fan of cubic zirconia and have been for years. I must say that I have always taken very good care of my rings. There isn't a gemstone that looks good when dirty, and that includes diamonds. So I make sure all of my rings are clean. I don't do dishes or any other type of demanding work with my rings on. It's a recipe for disaster, even with a diamond. When I'm wearing my cz's, they are always clean. I have beautiful rings; amethyst, London blue topazes, and Ceylon sapphires., as well as a collection of sterling silver. It takes little time to keep them clean and looking wonderful. As for the cz's I ALWAYS get compliments on them. The average individual knows so little about the "faux" diamonds that they cannot tell the difference. One lady in particular wanted to photograph my cz ring and I let her take a picture...and then told her where to buy it and the price. She was so tickled she said "Oh, dear! a new addiction!"
Under a loupe, I have some "VVS1, D grade, brilliant cut" moissanite that is for all intent & purpose almost completely colorless. That & you can find 1-2 carat moissanite stones for a fair amount less than $1,500. From reputable jewelers as well.
This was educational. I’m traveling to a country where flashing my wedding diamond ring can be risky, but I don’t want a stone that easily cracks like CZ. The moissanite is an excellent choice for fashion quality jewelry that doesn’t have to be an heirloom piece.
You're soooo right !!! My 3 carat moissanite got scratched sooooo fast i love it and you cant see it from far away but really really up close its a full on monat!!! A mess
For all your talk about how much it shocks you what moissanite looks like after X years of wear, couldn't you have just shown a few examples? A picture is worth a thousand words, and it's especially hard for me to trust a jeweler's word. Not just because you're obviously trying to sell your more expensive products, but also because you undoubtedly have a keener eye for imperfections than anybody else. Would I personally care? I don't know, I can't take your word for it. So please, show pictures, rather than giving subjective opinions. Also, why the weird inflection when you emphasize that CZ and moissanite are *synthetic*? Even if I was buying a diamond, I would have to be pretty stupid to buy a mined one rather than a synthetic diamond, no? So to me the obvious comparison seems to be between moissanite and synthetic diamonds
I have a 25k diamond ring that I've been trying to sell for MONTHS. Its a natural diamond and the resale company, I do, now I don't says they will buy it for 2k. Thats it. It was too gaudy for my tastes and my husband bought me the most beautiful 4.5 carat moissanite and setting for 5k instead. Diamonds DO NOT hold their value, unless they are incredibly rare or worn by someone famous. I love my moissanite, and I never felt comfortable walking around with something the same price as the down payment on our house on my hand.
I have seen a lot of difference in price with moissanite rings.. should I look for the forever one specifically? I’ve seen lots of reviews on the Esdemora rings and i’m not understanding why they are so much cheaper than other moissanite rings i’ve looked at
Kali Grae Much like how different diamond grading labs will use their own criteria to sometimes make their diamond look better than another that might actually be the same, this can happen with moissanite but usually you won’t see lab reports so you have to rely on brand recognition. I can’t speak to the quality of moissanite they’re using but I would doubt that their color grading would actually hold up to what I would expect from a good diamond report. With that in mind, I would be more concerned about the quality of the ring setting than the stone itself in this case. Many jewelers or websites will often cut corners on the ring itself making it less expensive and that’s actually where they could be saving some of that cost. A good quality ring setting will last much longer and has a higher upfront cost. I would be inclined to double check on the quality of the ring before being too concerned about the stone when it comes to diamond alternatives. I can’t speak to the specific brand because I haven’t seen any in person, but those are some thoughts that I would use to work through the process.Thanks for the question.
I would buy the moissanite from Charles and Colvard. They are the original makers and perfected the gemstone. They held the patent on moissanite up until 3 years ago, so now you will see a lot of places have them and frankly no way to know if the new companies making them are any good. Typically we would rely on our jewelers to help us in determining the quality of gems, but right now, most jeweler are only interested is deterring ppl away from moissanite and into diamonds bc diamonds make them more money, and they simply aren't as educated on moissanite.
Not the kind that is for sale anywhere on this planet. Any piece you can buy was made a lab. Real moissanite is basically non-existent because it's so rare.
Hi. Recently purchased a Moissanite pendant. 11 small stones set in rodium over sterling silver. The stones do not have body color. It is pretty, however being an Aries, I am a diamond girl. Still deciding if I will keep the pendant. I actually think the decision is very psychological. And, I guess I still think I paid too much for the "simulant". I don't like CZ's and maybe I still think of Moissanite as a CZ. I will probably return it. :>(
I'm a dimond girl, but I see benefits to stimulated stones. Before my husband upgraded me to my realy nice diamond ring set. I used a cz for years. We got married at 19. We couldn't afford a nice diamond ring set. It a beautiful set but the reality is the bigger middle stone got cloudy and, I just dont like that. I did get a lot of compliments on the cz set though, so I guess it really doesn't matter. I'm getting ready to do some overseas travel and I dont want to bring my dimond wedding set. So I'm looking into low cost alternatives. But I also want to wear it on my right hand when I am wearing my real set.
Moissanite has some crazy fire, though--way more than a diamond. If you get a moissanite gem and don't tell people what it is, they will say it's the sparkliest diamond they have ever seen.
If moissanite isn’t good for rings because of getting dinged up, how is it for stud earrings or earrings, especially because it might be harder to see the difference in fire when worn as an earring (vs a diamond).
Because we are getting away from the more obvious practical needs with earrings, it start to get much more into personal preference. I am more of a diamond person after seeing the differences for so long, but if you want a bigger size in a budget you might be better saving the money and going Cz vs Moissanite? If you don’t need larger stones I would consider a decent mid range diamond. Someone specializing in moissanite may be able to show you options in person and offer a real life comparison? Best of luck and thanks for watching!
Your Average Jeweler thanks for the great video and your reply! Size/cost isn’t my concern but I like that moissanite is more ethical than a lot of diamonds, plus then I can wear them everywhere/everyday without worrying about losing them since I spend a lot of time around small children and am very active but I don’t want someone to be able to tell that they’re moissanite or think I’m trying to wear fake diamonds. I just want something definitely ethical, clear, and sparkly.
@@alexandria6007 that's the funny thing about deciding to upsize with expensive jewelry. Go large and everyone will just assume it's a simulated stone, because it's more likely than someone walking around with a $10k stone. So splurging to impress will probably have the opposite effect. 😎
Thanks so much for answering. I want a 3 carat cushion without the cloudy look fakes get. But going with real setting fake center. I so appreciate your help. Do you sell?
I'm very disappointed.. I expect to know what the difference between the reflection index of both and Diamond. Ooh Another one is Lab grown diamond How about that???
I might be wrong but the vibe I get from this video is either this guy is a diamond fan boy and doesn't realize 90%+ people can't afford diamonds without getting in debt or he has to much money invested in diamonds and doesn't give a shit you have to choose paying your mortgage vs paying that godam diamond just so he can make a premium or both lol. I am not jeweler but I would say buy what you like and can afford there is more to life than fucking rocks lol
Moissanite gemstones are extraordinarly heat resistant, even moreso than a diamond. Therefore common jewelry repairs such as ring sizing, soldering and retipping prongs can be done without damaging the Moissanite gemstones. Moissanite has a higher vaporization temperature than diamond and can withstand temperatures reaching 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
I love my Moissie. paid 40 for a beauty set in silver. way more lively than my czs or my diamonds. color was slight grey and was informed of color when I purchased. would love to see a light colored wulfenite, hear way more lively and looks tacky so much refraction, also sphalerite. diamonds chip so easily and one little chip will lose money. people set fluorite in rings and labradorite way soft for rings, but its ok for casual wear. ONE LAST THING, DEBEERS AND THE DIAMOND MONOPOLY-DIAMOND IS ALMOST AS COMMON AS QUARTZ AND HAS A FAKE INFLATED PRICE. boo.
Yes abrasive quality industry grade diamonds are abundant. Like quartz (sand). Not gem quality natural diamond. You sound like a flat earther "Australia doesn't exist boo"
There is a new stone out ,BTD Better Than Diamond " Amora Eternity " ! My understanding is,that it is not a 50/50 mixture ( Carbon & Silicone carbide - but a 75/25 ) and it beats diamond hardness at 10.25 on the Mohs scale!
This is an interesting option, but difficult to make a good judgement call for a few reasons. There are not a lot of these stones out in the market place and similarly not many vendors that sell or even carry this product. with that said, there is very little "real world" feedback. second, most of the research I find was through marketing sources. there don't seem to be many, if any, reliable third party opinions on this stone. It is also worth noting that the information I found indicated the hardness to be similar to that of moissanite. I didn't find any references to it be harder than diamond from a scientific stand point. All of that to say that it is still relatively unknown and unproven so there is some risk in that. BUT an interesting option none the less. If more information comes out on this, I may make a video on Amora by "Better than Diamond" company. thanks for the comment!
@@YourAverageJeweler I always thought of if someone bumped up the carbon in a mossinate stone but how would this read on a diamond tester if theres more carbon also where can I find a suppleyer like this.
Giovanni Dubon unfortunately, gems don’t respond the way described when adding to the composition. By added more of a structural element you may just end up with a different stone altogether having a different chemical structure altogether. The structure is in many cases more important to the stones characteristics than the “ingredients” used in the process. As for diamond testers, they are using thermal conductivity, so adding carbon will not make it read as a diamond. As a side note, a lot of diamond testers are not 100% reliable and rely on proper calibration and reliable contact. I hope that helps.
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What I don't like about Moissanites especially emerald cut, asscher cut, criss cross cut is I notice the double refraction and it makes the stone look like plastic, hazy, dull. I don't notice it that much in round cuts. Some people might not notice it but I definitely do.
Some people are definitely more sensitive to this. Especially if you are used to seeing real diamonds, Moissanite can just look "off." A lot of people can't tell though. that's the more common scenario, but I agree with you.
I just bought some moissanite earrings from a jeweler on Etsy and I liked them because they were super affordable compared to diamonds and I was able to get a larger size that way (6 mm each). They look a lot better than CZ earrings I had before. I'd be afraid to wear high quality diamond earrings like I might lose them. Having said all that, I am pretty surprised when anyone says they prefer the of moissanite over diamonds. Diamonds really are just so beautiful. They have the right combination of depth and sparkle and moissanite just looks cheap and overly flashy in comparison, especially if the stone is larger than a carat. Also I've ordered some other moissanite and sometimes the color is really noticeably off and it can look milky.
How he tries to act like a hardness of 9.25 can’t be considered a life long stone 🙄 This seemed extremely biased to me and I’ve heard far more information to the contrary.
As a diamond simulant, moissante can't compete with cz because of the price. A Forever One 2-carat moissanite from Charles & Colvard will set you back $900. A similarly sized AAAAA cz is something like $30. The cz will also be flawless and colorless. Think about it. You could replace the cz thirty times before spending what the moissanite cost. Both with zero resale value. Yes, the moissanite has slightly more scintillation, but the adamantine luster of the cz is good enough, and certainly better than a flawless natural white sapphire or zircon. The only reason to spend more for the moissanite would be to get a ring that lasted longer, and as you mentioned in the video, you've discovered a chipping problem. If a consumer is going to have to keep replacing the moissanite at $900 a pop, then better to save up and get a lab created diamond instead. The average American consumer is not going to spend $900 for a simulant. At least that is my 2-cents worth.
There a some good points to your argument. The one thing I would add is that a stone can only be changed so many times before you wear out the prongs and they need more repair or replacement. Something to at least consider...
There's nothing special about a diamond. They aren't rare. Jewelry store cases are full of them and they will depreciate the moment you walk out of the store.
You are welcome to buy whatever you like, but in regards to depreciation...I don't know very many things you purchase in a retail environment that are more valuable or even as valuable after you walk out the door. If the stores selling them were not making any profit, they have no reason to be there to help you. Not everything depreciates the same way. I have some videos specifically addressing this reality. Cars, clothes, electronics and even jewelry all depreciate in different ways.
I have a question. I found some jewelers on Etsy who are selling 3ct lab diamonds and moissanites for under $400 with 14k gold. I wanted to know of that is a quality buy at that price or is not the quality. Do you think it's best i go with a CZ for that price let me know. I would send you and email but I don't see your address anywhere. Please respond soon. Thanks!
At that price, it is definitely NOT lab grown diamond! I would even argue there is no way they put a Moissanite in gold for that price. Under $400 barely gets you into a decent 14k gold Mount without a stone in it. It would have to be a very light poor quality Mount and Moissanite to almost be possible. Most likely this is CZ or something more like CZ. I would question the quality and listing. I hope that helps. There are some good jewelers on Etsy, but the majority of them are not disclosing properly or they are going for a low quality product.
Lol change the title of this video to Moissanite vs Diamonds Questions: 1) Inclusions: natural diamonds have inclusions but are hardly talked about in these video's, is this an advantage with lab grown diamonds not to include inclusions and impurities? 2) Toughness: where do Moissanites sit on the toughness scale? Are they similar to Sapphire in the excellent category or very good category? Are Moissanites slightly less hard than dimonds but are more tough and less likely to chip (your example of the Moissanites you maintained which showed damage, what is the context in how it is being looked after? The wearer is not a laborer or in construction or mining industry or in the garden every day for example? 3) Toughness: Diamonds also have cleavage lines which can propagate cracks and lead to chips (inclusions and impurities with natural diamonds I assume don't help with this either etc and is why they don't rate as high and considered more brittle. Do Moissanites and Cubic Zirconia's have this issue being lab grown? Do Lab grown diamonds have this same issue, i.e. is it a structural issue specific to the stone or a problem or defect in how they are created and can occur in any process with the goal to minimize it with lab grown? 4) Moissanites vs Cubic Zirconia's. How do they differ in Brilliance / Fire / Durability / Cut / Clearness / Hardness / Toughness with respect to each other (not diamonds). Thanks for putting the video together. Challenge you to look at these stones in a video in their own right and not as a Diamond alterative. Would appreciate it if you could respond to my questions. Thanks.
Why does it matter? Silicon also falls in the carbon group, has all the same properties of carbon and as long as the stone looks and behaves like a diamond at a fraction of the cost of even lab grown diamonds, how does 100% carbon vs 50% Silicon - 50% Carbon matter? Both diamond and Silicon carbide also have tetrahedral non-planar geometry. Also do you take your diamond ring and cut glass or scratch granite surfaces with it everyday? Then how does Mohs 10 or Mohs 9.25 matter? It's all that careful human psychological conditioning done by Cecil Rhodes' De Beers over 2 centuries that's responsible for so much environmental destruction caused during extraction of these worthless stones called diamonds. And diamonds are not even rare. All diamond companies have tremendous stockpiles but deliberately hoard them and release only few quantities into the market to keep prices jacked up. If people really got to know how much diamond supply there really is, the prices would tank and these crooks at De Beers would go bankrupt.
Which form of Moissanite are we talking about? There are two forms differing in atomic arrangement. One is cubic and one is hexagonal. Most properties are the same but as I understand it the hexagonal form shows birefringence optical issues whereas the cubic form is isotopic.
That is very technical question, but let me try and answer. The field of synthetic gemstones has expanded dramatically over the past few decades, so it can be difficult to find the most current information. To my knowledge there are not commercially accessible jewelry grade 3C (Cubic structure) moissanite available to consumers. There are still many prohibitive reasons both in cost and quality that make it difficult to produce in bulk. While it does present certain advantages over its 4H and 6H(hexagonal) counterparts, it is still not an option for jewelry at this point. The Moissanite most companies are producing for the purpose of jewelry is the hexagonal variety. My information is geared to deal with what you will see when searching within the jewelry industry. If you have any information or sources that are more current on gemstone moissanite dealers/sellers where they are using the Cubic variety I would be very curious to look into that. Thank you for your question.
Your Average Jeweler, thank you for your response. I used to work for the industrial diamond arm of De Beers and had an interest in Moissanite. I was able to grow small crystals of cubic SiC at low pressures and temperatures but continuous growth was an issue. Would have loved to follow up but retirement overtook me😟
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Although I am aware of diamonds and their simulants and think all are very nice I am still, deep down, a diamond girl. I have investigated and perused diamonds and their simulants and have definitely decided that although I am able to respect and appreciate all at the end of the day give me the real McCoy! Definitely prefer the fire, sparkle and hardness of the real thing! Had enough pretension in my life!!!!!!
I recently purchased a moissonite ring and it is absolutely stunning. Better than a diamond and more or less colorless. Diamonds don’t have resale value- that is false information.
It takes away its respects towards the Moissanite itself. If y’all just want a diamond then that’s great but don’t take away the Moissanites Shine by calling it an alternative to a diamond. Not all people love diamonds.
Yes so many jewelers on youtube keeping referring to it as "fake diamonds", diamonds have a HUGE markup, horrible resale value! Moissanite is nothing like a simulant that scratches etc. Moissanite is a lifelong stone that holds its resale value and is conflict free! If jewelers realized that getting on board opens up a whole new casual clientele they would get on board! I could never justify casual purchasing diamonds but I can afford gifts of good quality gold with stones like moissanite, morganite etc. It makes fine jewelery more everyday people friendly.
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@@homewithstefanie Diamonds like any re-sale item lose value unless it is of a collectable, unique quality!!!! Taylors diamonds obtained big bucks by size, history, association and name!
@@evelynharber6077 well moissanite will definitely be up in value in 10 years... mark my words!!
diamond dealers always bad mouth moissanite...ill take moissanite over a diamond any day,,,the color is so different
I love natural diamonds. But moissanite allows me to make my sparkly jewelry dreams come true on a tighter budget.
Same! Love Moissanite
I’ll buy real gold, but never real diamonds for the simple fact that real diamonds are hard to source and make sure they aren’t blood diamonds
Blood diamonds are hard to find these days with all the legislation and documentation required for diamonds moving around. We've seen a lot of good things happening the last decade in that regard! At the end of the day, it is nice we have so many alternatives to choose from. I hope the video was helpful.
Real gold is also 100% fungible for eternity. Diamonds are all slightly different and therefor never going to have the ability to be a monetary
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I am in complete accord
That's how I felt buynig my engagement ring too. 100% fine buying a moissainte and then spending 2 months in europe instead of a natural diamond honetly. I have memories to last a lifetime now.
@@YourAverageJeweler not what I hear even thru da beers family... they are worse then a prison if you get caught stealing a little diamond unfinished! Moissanite wins in every category except the most at a 9.5 who cares! Stainless steel is a 6!! So mossinite is over 50% stronger then steal but a diamond is 60% stronger then steal.... again not impressed. Diamonds chip as easy as mossinite. Iv seen some F'ed up diamonds before. Mossinite is the future in jewelry making... think about this 100 miles deep there are more diamonds then gold by 1000s of times!! Mossinite is from an alienated stone from space! It's a very magical stone that a diamond wish it was!! Diamond suck plain and simple!!
I love my moissanite jewelry. I will take lab created all day. Diamonds are not rare and the practices surrounding them are questionable at best.
Most people cant tell the difference. But, im proud to educate them.
What about lab grown diamonds though. They are much cheaper then natural diamonds. And they are real diamonds unlike moissanite or cubic zirconia.
@@zonk1477 Why does it matter? Silicon also falls in the carbon group, has all the same properties of carbon and as long as the stone looks and behaves like a diamond at a fraction of the cost of even lab grown diamonds, how does 100% carbon vs 50 Silicon - 50 Carbon matter?
Also do you take your diamond ring and cut glass or scratch granite surfaces with it everyday? Then how does Mohs 10 or Mohs 9.25 matter?
It's all that careful human psychological conditioning done by Cecil Rhodes' De Beers over 2 centuries that's responsible for so much environmental destruction caused during extraction of these worthless stones called diamonds. And diamonds are not even rare.
All diamond companies have tremendous stockpiles but deliberately hoard them and release only few quantities into the market to keep prices jacked up. If people really got to know how much diamond supply there really is, the prices would tank and these crooks at De Beers would go bankrupt.
@@zonk1477 real cannot be applied to lab grown diamonds though.
@@zonk1477 lab diamond moissanite and cz are all made in a lab... Moissanite is a natural mineral but the ones that are used in jewelry are all lab made
@@pokerqAK47 Lab grown diamonds are chemically, optically, physically EXACTLY the same as mined diamonds. Only difference is mined diamonds are formed in the earth over hundreds of thousands of years. Lab grown diamonds are formed in the lab over weeks/months. Both are DIAMONDS.
Moissanite is not even a diamond simulant it is its own gem, also why would you waste money on a lab grown diamond when you can't even resell it, as no jewellers buy lab diamonds, its pretty much synthetic. At the end of the day you buy it you wear it, you will still have issues with both, i have a diamond ring from Tiffany's and a Moissanite and i have more compliments with a Moissanite than a diamond, yet you spend all that money, humans have been conditioned to think diamonds are the best, all about status. Aint nobody know or care. At the end of the day we go the same way, you get what makes you happy
I agree with many of your statements. Definitely the reason that most of these alternatives exist is because people want different things.
One point I might clarify, is that of moissanite being a diamond simulant. It is common within the jewelry industry that anything that imitates the look of diamond that is not actual diamond or Lab grown diamonds to be referred to as a diamond simulant because it simulates the look of diamond. I have heard in some circles they don’t like this term because moissanite is a mineral, but cubic zirconia often referred to as the most common diamond simulant is also a mineral. Both are usually and almost always exclusively lab grown stones with the main purpose of being alternatives to diamonds.
Many colored gemstone alternatives and simulants are in fact some kind of gemstone. But they are referred to as an alternative because most are buying them to look like another more well-known our valuable gemstone.
I acknowledge that there may be some preference in how people prefer to use these terms,But if we are talking about commonly excepted jewelry terms that is how you will hear it being presented.
It may be that people are hearing the words simulant and synthetic as the same. Moissanite is not a synthetic( man made) diamond, but it is commonly referred to as a diamond simulant. I hope that clarification helps. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I think the point is that the diamond industry has a vested interest in using those terms. However, by their own logic, a diamond can be considered a moissanite simulant, but they aren't as bright.
Buyers really don't care to support the diamond industry, they simply want either the meaningful point or the gift, and or they want something that captivates them. The business just doesn't matter.
It's clear to me, the diamond industry does a great job of selling moissanite. They shoot themselves in the foot with their monopoly.
Can’t be so accurate
Diamonds are ultra expensive to buy but selling them will give you almost nothing. Try selling them in any kind of shop, they even ignore the diamonds and only give you money for the weight of gold contained in the piece of jewelry. Unless you have a piece of jewelry that is so unique and has been worn by a historical figure or a Hollywood star, perhaps you'll have the chance to make money for the diamonds at an auction then. The worth of diamonds is really just based on sentimental reasons.
Have you seen the prices of rubies lately? Good rubies!
Tiny nelee diamonds are basically worthless, however, anything over .01 carats is going to have some value even to a shop, as long as they aren't chipped or damaged. Having said that, selling diamonds to a shop is like selling bread to a baker. If you want to get money for your diamonds, sell on the secondary market.
Yup. I found that out the hard way years ago! Have been a fan of alternatives ever since.
@@vegasrenie I have a beautiful diamond ring that I going to have reset in rose gold. The jeweler had a ring similar to what I want to do & it looks gorgeous 😍
@@Jackaroo. I have 1 carat solitaire ring cost 2.5 thousand 25 years ago,(would be much more now)
In perfect condition very good quality stone , took it to sell it,was offered £300 for it
Most gemstones nowadays are copied into simulants and diamonds are no exception. Cubic Zirconias are beautiful and so are Moissanites. If diamonds weren't so expensive there wouldn't be a need for alternatives.
Well moissanite optically is different some people like it some don't but even at the same price I can see both being an option based on what you subjectively find beautiful
I disagree with this wholeheartedly. I'm choosing an alternative to a natural diamond for ethical reasons.
I've had my Moissanite 1.5 ctw. earrings for 17-18 years now. I was well informed when I bought them that they could have a yellow/green tinge to them, but I have never noticed it to the naked eye. And even better, I've had many jewelers compliment my diamond earrings, and I always proudly let them know they're Moissanite instead of diamond. Those early days were fun because most jewelers had never seen, or heard of it.
Are they a tough resell? Well, I've had jewelers offer to buy my earrings for twice my original investment.
That all sounds very factual and not like internet bologna at all
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I'm not into diamonds, and I was looking at a London blue topaz engagement ring when my husband offered to replace my aquamarine engagement ring and wedding band. (After 20 years of marriage and two children, I'd "outgrown" mine.) The jeweler I was buying from offered a ring in the style I was looking for in moissanite, so I had a look. Gorgeous! Far more gorgeous than the topaz I was looking at. I decided I preferred moissanite. I paired it with a twisted band, and I love it. When I bought it, I understood I'll have to treat it as I would a diamond, ie taking it off for cleaning house, doing physical work. My moissanite is pure white, and I love the sparkle! I paid more for the moissanite than I would have for the topaz, but a girl wants what she wants. I don't plan to ever sell it, will probably hand it down to one of my daughters, so who cares about resell value?
It's good you love it, but you don't have to take off a diamond for pretty much anything. I never take mine off and is good as the day I got it.
@@ccrisc100 - Actually, moissanite is second in hardness only to a diamond. You don't have to take it off for anything, either, but I'm pretty sure a lot of folks do remove their engagement rings to clean their toilet, whether they "have" to or not.
@@Widespread-Panicyes because bleach can damage gold too.
To me, it sounds like Moissanite is hurting your ability to make money. Am I right? Long live Moissanite!
EXACTLY!! I'm a die hard Moissanite fan, and these jewelers are SALTY AF !!!
Exactly that's why all jewelers are against it they know your saving money while they make less money
Exactly my thought lol
Moissanites are their own unique lab grown gemstones it shouldn’t be considered as an alternative of a diamond nor the fake version synthetic version of a diamond,
Thank you! I feel like I'm always saying this.
we didnt want to break the bank so we got a cz bridal set i get more compliments on that ring more than any other piece of jewelry i have ever owned we spend around 450 dollars
my guess is that because of the price, people are not gonna treat moissanite jewelry with the same TLC they would treat diamond jewelry, hence the reason for seeing more damage.
I’m with Billy
@@billybeagle5466 The Billys seem reasonable to me even if I'm not one.
You're believing a lie though. I've heard of people cracking their diamond ain half but I never heard of anybodies Moissanite chipping. I have no idea what this nut is talking about. The Diamond Industry is probably sponsoring him to make these videos. he doesn't even wear diamonds.
This was probably the most informative videos I've watched and you explained everything so clearly. Thank you for sharing!
So glad!
This was a misleading propaganda video to show moissanite as a undesirable item and hype up diamonds which actually are the true fakes because they are not rare and they are really not worth that much. They are just hyped up by criminal cartels like deebeers.
If you're really preferring a diamond, why not talk about the lab grown diamonds that aren't mined and are pretty much identical to mined diamonds yet the cost is a fraction that of a mined diamond? Lab grown diamonds are environmentally friendly and the earth isn't destroyed to mine them and none of them are at risk of being considered a "blood diamond". The same for lab created Moissanite..... Both are absolutely gorgeous indeed!
Lab Grown is certainly a good option. I am a believer in the practical advantages of diamond, and of course lab grown diamond are still diamond. I plan to do a video more specific to the pros and cons of Lab grown diamond.
Some of their ethical and environmental claims have been called into question in this past year, but there are specific companies that have a more transparent processes than others if that is a concern. Lab Grown diamonds have come with their own "baggage" unfortunately. I did mention some of these things when I talked about why Lab grown diamond is still expensive, but I have more planned coming up in the future. Thanks for your comment!
@@YourAverageJeweler Wonderful! I look forward to watching it indeed! Thank you so much!
all things considered, hardness versus durability of a diamond is also contingent on the inclusions within the stone. A diamond with a major inclusion, for example, might be "harder" but can be easily fractured on that line. pricing of Moissanite versus CZ is basically about branding.
Awesome video! Thanks! I feel that diamonds are way over-priced thanks to lab created diamonds. Global market manipulation by the big diamond miners has shown that diamonds are way over-priced and very plentiful regardless of mining costs. You cant make gold in a lab and thats why gold still has tons of value...but since diamonds can be made in a lab, their value should be far less now.
Russia has billions of dollars worth of diamonds in the ground. They could destroy the Diamond market in a heartbeat.
It comes down to the ability to create and maintain a distinction between them, even if they're identical in all physical respects. People will pay more for items that they feel sets themselves apart from the rest, and the availability needs to be controlled and meted out slowly to avoid making it commonplace.
When it gets to the point their neighbor can afford and buy one, then it's lost its value in their eyes. 😉
@dubmob151 I agree and we can dumb it all down to perception as you noted. Its all about perception and trust and agreement in the value of something. Thats the same case they make with cryptocurrencies these days. Natural vs lab does have its own difference in value, I agree. The price gap though is still way too big in my opinion. Everyone is wrapped up in green energy and saving the planet these days, and those who subscribe to all of that should come to the conclusion thay the human abuse and energy use, and cost expense, and destruction of the earth ultimately mean that this isnt worth mining these when lab is so similar. Personally I dont care about that aside from the human abuse factor.
I really love my emerald cut cubic zirconia. As a men, I love how clear it is without so much spark and bright shines in it.
Why does he keep calling moissanite a diamond stimulant? How are we ever comparing a moissanite and to cz??
I like moissanite as side stones or melee. They look like the finest diamonds when small.
We've been moving around a lot, and if I lost my real diamond/platinum wedding band, I'd be heartbroken. It stays in the safe deposit box. My moissanite/sterling silver ring is the one that gets to see the world! ;)
When does it see the light of day? As an inheritance or on special occasions?
@@dubmob151 It probably will as an inheritance. I haven't been around to the safe deposit box in a while.
As both a graduate gemologist and gemstone faceter my advice is to stick with CZ since it has been around for a much longer time and the price has gone down to pennies per care. There are hundreds of designs and sizes available in CZ. The average person outside a very experienced gemologist or one who handles diamonds routinely for grading every day can't tell the difference just by looking at the stone if it is a Diamond, CZ or Moissanite. Why would you pay more than 20 times or more for Moissanite over CZ when it is only a diamond simulant?
I agree. after doing some research finds out that GRA moissanite is a fake company, i think moissanite has a blurry existence. Without a official certificate, moissanite can't be sell, has no value at all except for its hardness. But, since cz are much way more cheaper and looks the same as diamond and moissanite, then why do i go for more expensive alternatives? Without certificate, moissanite are just similar to cz.
CZ is just trash in comparison to Moissanite. And if you ever actually looked at the two, side by side, you’d know it. Clearly you haven’t seen moissanite
As a graduate gemologist you should also see moissanite as an own gemstone and not a diamond simulant. CZ is just utter trash compared to moissanites.
I love the fire of moissanite but the price has gotten very high. I think I would rather have Russian. Diopside or Iolite. A clear sapphire is beautiful. There are even some very nice quartz stones.
I absolutely LOVE my asscher cut Russian. Love love love it.
my wife has has a moissanite ring for over15 years no chipping at all...so the fact that you had are seen some chiped.. is un believable or the owner is just mishandling ther jewelry..over all to me moissanite looks better...and the price is a no brainer.
moissanite is a fantastic stone no matter how you want to describe it. I love them far more then other white stones.
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@@MrLuvbizwar gee thanks
@@countdracula5433 lol sorry, was bored
If Moissanite and diamonds are so similar but a diamond's value is supposedly in its rarity yet they are everywhere 🤔 Why buy a diamond?
I just learned about Moissanite, and bought a tennis chain with Moissanite. Couple questions...is it possible to fake a moissanite gem? How do you tell if its fake? I know it can pass a diamond tester(basic diamond tester), but is there a way to use a CZ to appear to be a Moissanite? Maybe like some kind of special coating?
Thos video is disrespectful to.the moissanite. Its a natural stone with more reflective than a diamond and way less. diamonds coat way more than there value both moissantite and the diamond are on the same quality level. And moissanites arent just lab grown they are natural like diamond buddy 🤣
Exactly I'm with you... diamonds suck bro... mossinite wins in almost every category... even after 150 years, the diamond will start to turn milky inside, a mossinite will look the same as it did 1000 years... this guy doent know what he talking about iv seen diamonds chip like a MF... at 9.5 is crazy.... even hard ass stainless steal only a 6!!! Hahaha 🤣 like bro get the F out of here!! Mossinite is the future of jewlery! Just better then a diamond pure and simple... da beers owns 90% of diamonds anyways and hords most of them and inflate something that is in abundance 100 miles deep in the earth. There are mountains full of diamonds.... millions of times more diamonds then they are Mossinite!! He can't admit mossinite is just a better version of a diamond! Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like you replied to yourself on another account.
Moissanites are made in a lab, Natural Moissanites are extremely rare in gem quality , I just saw a natural one setted and it was not gem quality.
Moissanite that are in jewelry are only lab grown, but yeah moissanite is still a respectable stone and i’ll always get it over a diamond
Diamonds all the way!
At least Moissanite is not a blood Dimond. I don't see anything wrong with a nice Moissanite.
Jewelers can’t rip you off with a high mark up with the beautiful moissanite. That is probably why jewelers don’t like them.
I just bought a 5 carat Moissanite pendant for $130. My first impression upon taking it out of the package (it was mail-order), was that it looks cheap. Of course it is cheap compared to $2,000 pendant. But it sure does give off a lot of sparkle. It is far larger than any diamond I would ever buy, so it's not like I'm trying to pass it off as a diamond. But I came across a white zircon pendant also online, and am curious whether I'd like that more. What's the difference between natural Zircon and natural Moissanite? How do they compare? Which is more sparkly?
Read a Google answer that there are no natural moissanites used in jewellery due to its extreme rareness in nature. Seems that's my answer then, zircon is natural and Moissanite is man-made. I would prefer the natural.
Moissanite all the way.... I'd take the M over the Z in any setting of jewelry. M tennis necklace, 1carat stone M....OMFG.
@@billwayne3924 Update: I have since bought a natural clear zircon necklace and love it. It's a heavy silver boho design. I wear it a lot. The Moissanite one I got for $100. I found out is actually CZ. I was duped. I got a refund. I learned you won't be able to buy a 5 carat moissanite for $100., more like a 1 carat for $600. So I still don't know what they look like and am on the market for one.
I have nice white gold, 5 stone channel set moissanite ring. It's pretty. But, I agree, I think moissanite is way too expensive as a diamond simulant. And have heard about the yellow cast to the stones before altho I have never seen it myself. Never heard of the chipping, sounds better for earrings then. Good video.
You often see the chipping under the prongs more clearly.
I absolutely love the way you analyze this topic very deplomatic❤
I don’t understand why people get so offended. Moissanites are som alternatives to diamonds and so are Czs because people who want the look of the diamond but not the cost tend to look at these options. Now yes a moissanite is it’s own stone but a lot of people get it instead of a diamond so to me calling it an alternative is not offensive. To each their own, whatever they want to buy for their engagement ring is great! People also buy sapphires, emeralds, rubies, etc! It’s all preference
great video. since you did mention moissanites being slightly more brittle and not as hard as people think, i think this contributes to people being slightly more careless with moissanite Jewelry verses colored gems which people KNOW they need to take special care of. my wedding rings are all garnets i know it's not good to wear them everyday, work out in them, and have them on every single time i wash my hands if I want them to stay as close to as beautiful as the day i got my rings. anyway this was very informative. I'll make sure I add care instructions to my moissanite Jewelry designs thank you.
But diamond is worth more than Moissanite so if diamond has a better cut then why does Moissanite shine better? In fact many people don't like moissanite because of the "disco ball" effect which is almost absurd amount of "pop" in the light refraction. To me there is just no comparison moissanite vastly superior to CZ
I am a fan of cubic zirconia and have been for years. I must say that I have always taken very good care of my rings. There isn't a gemstone that looks good when dirty, and that includes diamonds. So I make sure all of my rings are clean. I don't do dishes or any other type of demanding work with my rings on. It's a recipe for disaster, even with a diamond. When I'm wearing my cz's, they are always clean. I have beautiful rings; amethyst, London blue topazes, and Ceylon sapphires., as well as a collection of sterling silver. It takes little time to keep them clean and looking wonderful. As for the cz's I ALWAYS get compliments on them. The average individual knows so little about the "faux" diamonds that they cannot tell the difference. One lady in particular wanted to photograph my cz ring and I let her take a picture...and then told her where to buy it and the price. She was so tickled she said "Oh, dear! a new addiction!"
Under a loupe, I have some "VVS1, D grade, brilliant cut" moissanite that is for all intent & purpose almost completely colorless. That & you can find 1-2 carat moissanite stones for a fair amount less than $1,500. From reputable jewelers as well.
If the stones are small (or a large number of small stones covering a bigger surface area, is it obvious difference between moissanite and CZ?
This was educational. I’m traveling to a country where flashing my wedding diamond ring can be risky, but I don’t want a stone that easily cracks like CZ. The moissanite is an excellent choice for fashion quality jewelry that doesn’t have to be an heirloom piece.
If I wanted to wear a moissanite in a ring, I would want the jeweler to put it in a bezel setting.
I’m about whatever I can afford. I have several jewelry pieces with cz’s and I just ordered a ring with moissanite to see what it’s all about.
This was so helpful! Thank you for sharing! We are looking at different ring options and this cleared up so much question!
Jewelry you are not afraid to lose is jewelry you can wear every day.
You're soooo right !!! My 3 carat moissanite got scratched sooooo fast i love it and you cant see it from far away but really really up close its a full on monat!!! A mess
For all your talk about how much it shocks you what moissanite looks like after X years of wear, couldn't you have just shown a few examples? A picture is worth a thousand words, and it's especially hard for me to trust a jeweler's word. Not just because you're obviously trying to sell your more expensive products, but also because you undoubtedly have a keener eye for imperfections than anybody else. Would I personally care? I don't know, I can't take your word for it. So please, show pictures, rather than giving subjective opinions.
Also, why the weird inflection when you emphasize that CZ and moissanite are *synthetic*? Even if I was buying a diamond, I would have to be pretty stupid to buy a mined one rather than a synthetic diamond, no? So to me the obvious comparison seems to be between moissanite and synthetic diamonds
Like diamonds don't loose value....right
I have a 25k diamond ring that I've been trying to sell for MONTHS. Its a natural diamond and the resale company, I do, now I don't says they will buy it for 2k. Thats it. It was too gaudy for my tastes and my husband bought me the most beautiful 4.5 carat moissanite and setting for 5k instead. Diamonds DO NOT hold their value, unless they are incredibly rare or worn by someone famous. I love my moissanite, and I never felt comfortable walking around with something the same price as the down payment on our house on my hand.
Thank you for talking about this subject so frankly. Nice videos!
Laura Hodgin 👍
Thank you so very very much. This answered so many questions.
I have seen a lot of difference in price with moissanite rings.. should I look for the forever one specifically? I’ve seen lots of reviews on the Esdemora rings and i’m not understanding why they are so much cheaper than other moissanite rings i’ve looked at
Kali Grae Much like how different diamond grading labs will use their own criteria to sometimes make their diamond look better than another that might actually be the same, this can happen with moissanite but usually you won’t see lab reports so you have to rely on brand recognition. I can’t speak to the quality of moissanite they’re using but I would doubt that their color grading would actually hold up to what I would expect from a good diamond report. With that in mind, I would be more concerned about the quality of the ring setting than the stone itself in this case. Many jewelers or websites will often cut corners on the ring itself making it less expensive and that’s actually where they could be saving some of that cost. A good quality ring setting will last much longer and has a higher upfront cost. I would be inclined to double check on the quality of the ring before being too concerned about the stone when it comes to diamond alternatives. I can’t speak to the specific brand because I haven’t seen any in person, but those are some thoughts that I would use to work through the process.Thanks for the question.
@@YourAverageJeweler Thank you!
I would buy the moissanite from Charles and Colvard. They are the original makers and perfected the gemstone. They held the patent on moissanite up until 3 years ago, so now you will see a lot of places have them and frankly no way to know if the new companies making them are any good. Typically we would rely on our jewelers to help us in determining the quality of gems, but right now, most jeweler are only interested is deterring ppl away from moissanite and into diamonds bc diamonds make them more money, and they simply aren't as educated on moissanite.
Moisanite fell from the stars.
Not the kind that is for sale anywhere on this planet. Any piece you can buy was made a lab. Real moissanite is basically non-existent because it's so rare.
@@Arctic_Falcon facts
@@Arctic_Falcon no shit
Hi. Recently purchased a Moissanite pendant. 11 small stones set in rodium over sterling silver. The stones do not have body color. It is pretty, however being an Aries, I am a diamond girl. Still deciding if I will keep the pendant. I actually think the decision is very psychological. And, I guess I still think I paid too much for the "simulant". I don't like CZ's and maybe I still think of Moissanite as a CZ. I will probably return it. :>(
I'm a dimond girl, but I see benefits to stimulated stones. Before my husband upgraded me to my realy nice diamond ring set. I used a cz for years. We got married at 19. We couldn't afford a nice diamond ring set. It a beautiful set but the reality is the bigger middle stone got cloudy and, I just dont like that. I did get a lot of compliments on the cz set though, so I guess it really doesn't matter.
I'm getting ready to do some overseas travel and I dont want to bring my dimond wedding set. So I'm looking into low cost alternatives. But I also want to wear it on my right hand when I am wearing my real set.
Moissanite has some crazy fire, though--way more than a diamond. If you get a moissanite gem and don't tell people what it is, they will say it's the sparkliest diamond they have ever seen.
Please tell about swarovski zirconia. You explains so well..
Swarovski are juste glass with plumb inside, the worst con ever 😅
If it's lab made stone, then how come the hardness matters? I believe if that is the case, the hardness can also be compromised. Please explain.
Star gems #1..light in .. out twice..high reflexively..colors ..beautiful
If moissanite isn’t good for rings because of getting dinged up, how is it for stud earrings or earrings, especially because it might be harder to see the difference in fire when worn as an earring (vs a diamond).
Because we are getting away from the more obvious practical needs with earrings, it start to get much more into personal preference. I am more of a diamond person after seeing the differences for so long, but if you want a bigger size in a budget you might be better saving the money and going Cz vs Moissanite? If you don’t need larger stones I would consider a decent mid range diamond. Someone specializing in moissanite may be able to show you options in person and offer a real life comparison? Best of luck and thanks for watching!
Your Average Jeweler thanks for the great video and your reply! Size/cost isn’t my concern but I like that moissanite is more ethical than a lot of diamonds, plus then I can wear them everywhere/everyday without worrying about losing them since I spend a lot of time around small children and am very active but I don’t want someone to be able to tell that they’re moissanite or think I’m trying to wear fake diamonds. I just want something definitely ethical, clear, and sparkly.
@@alexandria6007 that's the funny thing about deciding to upsize with expensive jewelry. Go large and everyone will just assume it's a simulated stone, because it's more likely than someone walking around with a $10k stone. So splurging to impress will probably have the opposite effect. 😎
Thank you for this video. Placed many things in perspective for me and the person I'm interested in getting this for.
You are so welcome!
Thanks so much for answering. I want a 3 carat cushion without the cloudy look fakes get. But going with real setting fake center. I so appreciate your help. Do you sell?
4:50 So where does moissanite fall on this more objective chart, if Mohs is a more arbitrary ranking?
Because I can’t afford “Hearts on Fire” diamonds right at the moment, I’m a big moissanite fan.
The first honest comment I see on this channel. most people are just going "grapes are sour". 😂😂
I'm very disappointed.. I expect to know what the difference between the reflection index of both and Diamond. Ooh Another one is Lab grown diamond How about that???
moissanite is more resistent to heat then diamonds are. I dont know how he said that one must be careful with the heat lol
It's not
But it is @@BlackSakura33
So insightful/ interesting
Thank you 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
I might be wrong but the vibe I get from this video is either this guy is a diamond fan boy and doesn't realize 90%+ people can't afford diamonds without getting in debt or he has to much money invested in diamonds and doesn't give a shit you have to choose paying your mortgage vs paying that godam diamond just so he can make a premium or both lol. I am not jeweler but I would say buy what you like and can afford there is more to life than fucking rocks lol
Moissanite gemstones are extraordinarly heat resistant, even moreso than a diamond. Therefore common jewelry repairs such as ring sizing, soldering and retipping prongs can be done without damaging the Moissanite gemstones. Moissanite has a higher vaporization temperature than diamond and can withstand temperatures reaching 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Look at Gorilla Glass, it's scratch resistant but if you drop your phone or tablet, it shatters easily because its tough but brittle.
I love my Moissie. paid 40 for a beauty set in silver. way more lively than my czs or my diamonds. color was slight grey and was informed of color when I purchased. would love to see a light colored wulfenite, hear way more lively and looks tacky so much refraction, also sphalerite. diamonds chip so easily and one little chip will lose money. people set fluorite in rings and labradorite way soft for rings, but its ok for casual wear. ONE LAST THING, DEBEERS AND THE DIAMOND MONOPOLY-DIAMOND IS ALMOST AS COMMON AS QUARTZ AND HAS A FAKE INFLATED PRICE. boo.
Yes abrasive quality industry grade diamonds are abundant. Like quartz (sand). Not gem quality natural diamond.
You sound like a flat earther "Australia doesn't exist boo"
Excellent videos!
Do Diamonds have rainbows ???
It happens, but CZ is more often going to have that affect.
There is a new stone out ,BTD Better Than Diamond " Amora Eternity " ! My understanding is,that it is not a 50/50 mixture ( Carbon & Silicone carbide - but a 75/25 ) and it beats diamond hardness at 10.25 on the Mohs scale!
This is an interesting option, but difficult to make a good judgement call for a few reasons. There are not a lot of these stones out in the market place and similarly not many vendors that sell or even carry this product. with that said, there is very little "real world" feedback. second, most of the research I find was through marketing sources. there don't seem to be many, if any, reliable third party opinions on this stone. It is also worth noting that the information I found indicated the hardness to be similar to that of moissanite. I didn't find any references to it be harder than diamond from a scientific stand point. All of that to say that it is still relatively unknown and unproven so there is some risk in that. BUT an interesting option none the less. If more information comes out on this, I may make a video on Amora by "Better than Diamond" company. thanks for the comment!
@@YourAverageJeweler I always thought of if someone bumped up the carbon in a mossinate stone but how would this read on a diamond tester if theres more carbon also where can I find a suppleyer like this.
Giovanni Dubon unfortunately, gems don’t respond the way described when adding to the composition. By added more of a structural element you may just end up with a different stone altogether having a different chemical structure altogether. The structure is in many cases more important to the stones characteristics than the “ingredients” used in the process.
As for diamond testers, they are using thermal conductivity, so adding carbon will not make it read as a diamond. As a side note, a lot of diamond testers are not 100% reliable and rely on proper calibration and reliable contact. I hope that helps.
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What I don't like about Moissanites especially emerald cut, asscher cut, criss cross cut is I notice the double refraction and it makes the stone look like plastic, hazy, dull. I don't notice it that much in round cuts. Some people might not notice it but I definitely do.
Some people are definitely more sensitive to this. Especially if you are used to seeing real diamonds, Moissanite can just look "off." A lot of people can't tell though. that's the more common scenario, but I agree with you.
I just bought some moissanite earrings from a jeweler on Etsy and I liked them because they were super affordable compared to diamonds and I was able to get a larger size that way (6 mm each). They look a lot better than CZ earrings I had before. I'd be afraid to wear high quality diamond earrings like I might lose them. Having said all that, I am pretty surprised when anyone says they prefer the of moissanite over diamonds. Diamonds really are just so beautiful. They have the right combination of depth and sparkle and moissanite just looks cheap and overly flashy in comparison, especially if the stone is larger than a carat. Also I've ordered some other moissanite and sometimes the color is really noticeably off and it can look milky.
How he tries to act like a hardness of 9.25 can’t be considered a life long stone 🙄
This seemed extremely biased to me and I’ve heard far more information to the contrary.
never understood the obsession with natural stones. Seeing as diamond is chemically identical no matter where it comes from
This is a great video! Thank you
As a diamond simulant, moissante can't compete with cz because of the price. A Forever One 2-carat moissanite from Charles & Colvard will set you back $900. A similarly sized AAAAA cz is something like $30. The cz will also be flawless and colorless. Think about it. You could replace the cz thirty times before spending what the moissanite cost. Both with zero resale value. Yes, the moissanite has slightly more scintillation, but the adamantine luster of the cz is good enough, and certainly better than a flawless natural white sapphire or zircon. The only reason to spend more for the moissanite would be to get a ring that lasted longer, and as you mentioned in the video, you've discovered a chipping problem. If a consumer is going to have to keep replacing the moissanite at $900 a pop, then better to save up and get a lab created diamond instead. The average American consumer is not going to spend $900 for a simulant. At least that is my 2-cents worth.
There a some good points to your argument. The one thing I would add is that a stone can only be changed so many times before you wear out the prongs and they need more repair or replacement. Something to at least consider...
Cz aaa last like 2 years aaaaa last more. Mois last like 4 ever
I got my aaa cz for about 20 years and it really hasn't been changed at all
Nature doesn't "simulate". They're just different stones that are incredibly similar
Thank you for this, I was considering moissanite but looks like I'll stick with the sapphire and the ruby instead. Very informative video, love it.🙏❤
Glad it was helpful!
CZ most days, diamond when appropriate. Either you’re all in or you’re not
There's nothing special about a diamond. They aren't rare. Jewelry store cases are full of them and they will depreciate the moment you walk out of the store.
You are welcome to buy whatever you like, but in regards to depreciation...I don't know very many things you purchase in a retail environment that are more valuable or even as valuable after you walk out the door. If the stores selling them were not making any profit, they have no reason to be there to help you. Not everything depreciates the same way. I have some videos specifically addressing this reality. Cars, clothes, electronics and even jewelry all depreciate in different ways.
Don't Moissanite have a greenish hue to them?
And another note Moissanites are not fake.
I have a question. I found some jewelers on Etsy who are selling 3ct lab diamonds and moissanites for under $400 with 14k gold. I wanted to know of that is a quality buy at that price or is not the quality.
Do you think it's best i go with a CZ for that price let me know.
I would send you and email but I don't see your address anywhere. Please respond soon. Thanks!
At that price, it is definitely NOT lab grown diamond! I would even argue there is no way they put a Moissanite in gold for that price. Under $400 barely gets you into a decent 14k gold Mount without a stone in it. It would have to be a very light poor quality Mount and Moissanite to almost be possible. Most likely this is CZ or something more like CZ. I would question the quality and listing. I hope that helps. There are some good jewelers on Etsy, but the majority of them are not disclosing properly or they are going for a low quality product.
@@YourAverageJeweler thanks so much after watching your videos that what I thought. Ill stick to the CZ then. Thanks again.
Is a 2ct pair of earrings for 230 a realistic price?
I will get them all and wear them all when they’re appropriate to wear
Lol change the title of this video to Moissanite vs Diamonds
Questions:
1) Inclusions: natural diamonds have inclusions but are hardly talked about in these video's, is this an advantage with lab grown diamonds not to include inclusions and impurities?
2) Toughness: where do Moissanites sit on the toughness scale? Are they similar to Sapphire in the excellent category or very good category? Are Moissanites slightly less hard than dimonds but are more tough and less likely to chip (your example of the Moissanites you maintained which showed damage, what is the context in how it is being looked after? The wearer is not a laborer or in construction or mining industry or in the garden every day for example?
3) Toughness: Diamonds also have cleavage lines which can propagate cracks and lead to chips (inclusions and impurities with natural diamonds I assume don't help with this either etc and is why they don't rate as high and considered more brittle. Do Moissanites and Cubic Zirconia's have this issue being lab grown? Do Lab grown diamonds have this same issue, i.e. is it a structural issue specific to the stone or a problem or defect in how they are created and can occur in any process with the goal to minimize it with lab grown?
4) Moissanites vs Cubic Zirconia's. How do they differ in Brilliance / Fire / Durability / Cut / Clearness / Hardness / Toughness with respect to each other (not diamonds).
Thanks for putting the video together. Challenge you to look at these stones in a video in their own right and not as a Diamond alterative.
Would appreciate it if you could respond to my questions. Thanks.
Why does it matter? Silicon also falls in the carbon group, has all the same properties of carbon and as long as the stone looks and behaves like a diamond at a fraction of the cost of even lab grown diamonds, how does 100% carbon vs 50% Silicon - 50% Carbon matter? Both diamond and Silicon carbide also have tetrahedral non-planar geometry.
Also do you take your diamond ring and cut glass or scratch granite surfaces with it everyday? Then how does Mohs 10 or Mohs 9.25 matter?
It's all that careful human psychological conditioning done by Cecil Rhodes' De Beers over 2 centuries that's responsible for so much environmental destruction caused during extraction of these worthless stones called diamonds. And diamonds are not even rare.
All diamond companies have tremendous stockpiles but deliberately hoard them and release only few quantities into the market to keep prices jacked up. If people really got to know how much diamond supply there really is, the prices would tank and these crooks at De Beers would go bankrupt.
Which form of Moissanite are we talking about? There are two forms differing in atomic arrangement. One is cubic and one is hexagonal. Most properties are the same but as I understand it the hexagonal form shows birefringence optical issues whereas the cubic form is isotopic.
That is very technical question, but let me try and answer. The field of synthetic gemstones has expanded dramatically over the past few decades, so it can be difficult to find the most current information. To my knowledge there are not commercially accessible jewelry grade 3C (Cubic structure) moissanite available to consumers. There are still many prohibitive reasons both in cost and quality that make it difficult to produce in bulk. While it does present certain advantages over its 4H and 6H(hexagonal) counterparts, it is still not an option for jewelry at this point. The Moissanite most companies are producing for the purpose of jewelry is the hexagonal variety.
My information is geared to deal with what you will see when searching within the jewelry industry. If you have any information or sources that are more current on gemstone moissanite dealers/sellers where they are using the Cubic variety I would be very curious to look into that.
Thank you for your question.
Your Average Jeweler, thank you for your response. I used to work for the industrial diamond arm of De Beers and had an interest in Moissanite. I was able to grow small crystals of cubic SiC at low pressures and temperatures but continuous growth was an issue. Would have loved to follow up but retirement overtook me😟
i just bought a 3 carat moisanite oval stone for 300$ I feel like I waisted my money.
Hi! Is there anyone else you recommend besides Charles and Colvard for a moissanite ring? I'd like to find a local jeweler in Los Angeles!
You are so helpful.
Thank you. It is nice to hear this feedback. Thank you for watching.
Well, what if i send you a hand cut moissanite, just to compare the cut quality, with the best diamond you can find. 100% the diamond will loose.
I had no idea that 9 to 10 hardness is a huge leap
I trust your opinion. Should I get moissanite or cz. I care about sparkly and non cloudy. Also do you sell and make jewelry?
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what is the value of a second hand moissanite percentage wise as compared to a second hand diamond, as in in % of return on investment?
Although I am aware of diamonds and their simulants and think all are very nice I am still, deep down, a diamond girl. I have investigated and perused diamonds and their simulants and have definitely decided that although I am able to respect and appreciate all at the end of the day give me the real McCoy! Definitely prefer the fire, sparkle and hardness of the real thing! Had enough pretension in my life!!!!!!
I love moissanite for the fire. I don't really like diamonds. I love ruby and sapphire.
I recently purchased a moissonite ring and it is absolutely stunning. Better than a diamond and more or less colorless. Diamonds don’t have resale value- that is false information.