Within like 10 minutes Andrew got this guy to say the Bible isn't true, and that he agrees with all the core principles of satanism. Jeeze how can he even continue the debate after this?
Once I knew his position, a proud satanist pastor. I didn't take the debate seriously anymore after those 15 minutes or so. I took it as an absurd woke entertainment that has nothing to do with the bible or god
Andrew's haters will say Andrew is meanie and a bad Christian coz he goes full bloodsports on his opponents. Brandan Robertson for the first time in his entire adult life has been confronted and demolished by somebody willing to say the truth without sugercoating it. THAT PERSON WAS ANDREW !!
And when somebody attacked the Father, His Word, or His Will, Christ didn't mince words. It's why the pharisees and others tried to grab Him many times before the cross.
@@AnyaMidkiffExactly. People who believe the "hippy" Jesus didn't read the Gospels. He was calling EVERYONE out. Especially one group, who hates Him more than anyone.
That's the problem all the fake hippy Jesus people run into. Jesus was whipping the "merchants" out of the temple. He was no "do what you want, man" hippy like these s0d0mites want to portray.
Same here, I'm not gonna play into delusion. They want the whole world to take part in their charade and they gotta accept the fact that not everyone is gonna play that game.
People seem to forget, when offering sympathy, that Brandon is promoting himself as a church _leader_ and leading others to death. Knowingly. He's read and heard the Truth many, many times, and rejected it in favor of his opinion and definitions. This isn't something Christ minced words on when setting false church leaders straight. It is not kind to be "nice" about people twisting His Will and Word in His own house to mislead others. We don't define love or sin, God does. Period. And while we forgive those who wrong _US_ we don't give sympathy to those who willingly mock Him and serve the enemy.
@@rogerledoux4741 They most likely will be if they continue to listen to that false prophet. They are actively choosing to follow Brandon's teachings despite hearing the truth.
What words did Christ not mince? What of the 200 recorded words of christ included info about homosexuality etc? Were those direft witnesses or people 5/30 years post resurrection. One position: christ is son of creater GOD the almighty, died and rose again....anything after that is mankind's words not Christ's nor gods. Too much attempts to corrupt the scriptures and texts by monarch and political purposes over thousands of years make it a mute point in 2024. God is real...Jesus is too.....and Jesus isn't sending people who masturbate or are lesbian etc to hell....that's not the nature of God. Yahweh is not god....jehovah and yah weh are names of the demon lucifer claiming to be God. There's plenty of stories of Satan claiming to be God in scripture. It's not trustworthy. You think Satan wouldn't corrupt the Bible? OF COURSE it's the most jmportant document and story and testimony! Of course Satan targeted it! And the Vatican and the church too! Look at it today@ It's been corrupt . If Jesus showed up tomorrow and this dude just scked a D....if he accepts Jesus in his heart Jesus has COMPASSION .....his heart turns away from no man animal or any lifeforms. Sorry you're wrong. Andrew is right about alot of things but so much is just literally cult mentality
@@SupremeWillisNo one's saying God physically wrote scripture, but it's such a basic Christian tenant to believe that the men who did write it were inspired and filled by the Holy Spirit aka Gos
@@SupremeWillis Wrong. The Bible clearly states that the fullness of deity was indwelt within Christ (Colossians 2:9). And, while his apostles and those associated with the apostles may have written the Biblical accounts, not Jesus directly, it was indeed the words of God. John 14:26 says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
For the viewers who are joining ! Let me give you spoilers !! Andrew broke brandan's philosophical , psychological, scientific and theological pillers with such precision that it's almost career ending for robertson.
@@davidfunk6698Your truth? You sound like one of them. Or maybe you are and I took your meaning of the fruit wrong. In that case the fruit definitely lost.
Yeah, I am a big Andrew Wilson fan his style & his debate tactics are great, I already know he won this, I am starting it right now & I am feeling 2nd hand embarrassment through the screen on his behalf, this debate premise is like "Is the moon made of cheese" ? The debate proposition is not worthy of serious inquiry like "is abortion murder" well yes some things are objectively true or false, the thing that is harmful & false theology being taken seriously & believed is the harm that God only knows all the people negativity affected, I assume based on your comment sounds like the unawares of Nadir Ahmed which is easily the worst debater I have ever seen, literally blind to all past debate performances.
@gregorytremain4086 yes I see this alot, like in dawah the Muhammad Hijab's & the chest thumping of an absolute ignorant person, with unflinching confidence like an Andrew Tate, telling on himself for 10 years on so many videos, says it all in full confidence & thankfully it will all be used as evidence against him now, but I agree with you that confidence does not equal competence.
When he’s surrounded by so many lies that he can’t recognize truth when it stares at him, makes it not only believable but necessarily true that he can’t recognize losing. I think he left truth behind a long time ago and it will literally take and act of God to show him any truth at all.
Mercy, that was brutal. Brandan kept repeatedly hitting himself in the face. I was cringing so much every time he actively contradicted himself, contradicted the Bible, or denied his own previously claimed line of logic when it no longer supported his given lie. This was like watching a 10 year old fighting to validate his belief in why his favorite fill-in-the-blank is better than anybody else's. He could not answer the most simple questions so many times it was simply pitiful.
@Jeremy-wp4yh It's gross to talk about those things, but I understand why Andrew bring them up when talking about ethics and moral philosophy. If people hold the opinion that morality is based on the harm principle then it's easy to craft a disgusting hypothetical that those principles can't account for, and they have no way of saying those disgusting things are objectively immoral. It's worth understanding the shortcomings of having subjective morals. If morality is subjective, then it's merely personal preferences. No personal preference can be objectively more true than another. This means someone can believe horrendous atrocities are moral, and it's just as valid as someone who doesn't.
Once I'm done with my first viewing I'll come back with time stamps. So far he has admitted he is agnostic, isn't sure about the soul, supports the 7 tenants of an organization antithetical to Christianity, aaand denies scripture. Off the top of my head I know scripture that outright puts the lie to his claims. I'd also like to state that I'm not myself a Christian, I'm more like a cheerleader on the sideline... and also I should say I'm a little on the homosexal side. Because I cannot be what Christianity asks of me I'm comfortable not intruding on others beliefs.
Good question. I honestly couldn't figure out what this guys game is. I assume it's some kind of scam because none of it made sense. Is he drifting money from supporters or is he there as a subversive force to corrupt the traditional church values?
@@DavidRobinson-sv2ivGnosticism and Mysticism has been used by many to iinfiltrate all institutions and eroded them from the inside. Ot is all about self. To change and distort for self. Hagel viewed himself as a Christian but his wrtings show he wanted to be his own god. Individuals who do not follow the Prophets of God, listen to God's will, continue to sin and not atone their own transgressions, they are not part of any Abrahamic faith. He chose to call himself a Protestant just to go against Catholicism, but one more step in his path of subversion.
@@rogerledoux4741 I never understood how someone could think God could be wrong when God created everything. A creator creates the rules and writes the story of the universe. Not sure how God or something like God in a hypothetical could be wrong if they wrote the rules.
If we want to keep the law, we should keep the whole law. The law isn´t a buffet, that you can pick from what you like, and leave what you dislike. For example, why don´t we keep the Shabbath anymore ? This is the day that our Lord rested in the tomb. From the approximately, at most, 36 hours he was dead, 24 was on the Shabbath. Even though God ordered us to keep this day, the Shabbath, holy, yet no Christian is willing to keep it. We are all a bunch of hypocrites.
Same here man. I aint about to go back to church but andrew is hands down my favorite dude on the internet. Absolutely love how he can destroy these heretics and im cheering him on
It points out the hypocrisy. If you are a gambler, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a sexually perverted person, you are supposed to die and follow Jesus. Give up what is sinful.
The church has not changed their beliefs on 'slavery'. It was always anti-slavery & much of the early church were slaves/former slaves who flocked to the message & hope it offered them.
At least insofar as how slaves should be *treated* if you have slaves. Some will point to the command for slaves to be obedient as a knock against Christians but ignore the part about the masters being warned that they will be treated in the next life in the way they treat their slaves/servants. Combine that with the command to love your neighbor as you would love yourself, the rational conclusion is that you're ordered to be a *very* considerate and understanding master. Which, tbh, makes the dynamic more like an employer than the type of chattel slavery done often.
@@ragingsmurfling7205 I can't remember the verse but it stated that masters and people who are sold people should be put to the sword. Basically stating people can't own people or sell people.
@Snow-Willow Agreed. As much as I disagree with 99.9% of what Brandan said, he was kind, open to the conversation and humble enough to "concede" at times.
He gets major points for engaging in good faith, actually answering questions, being good natured, etc. He lost the debate, but otherwise he was a good participant
This is what separates Andrew from other Christian debaters !! Andrew doesn't rely on theological arguments....he adopts a holistic approach and destroys the foundation of all claims you make whether you make a scientific or a psychological claim.
But Andrew has no biblical foundation which defeats the entire purpose of this conversation. This debate was with a gay pastor. Surely it MUST include scripture
@@Jeremy-wp4yhBrandon has been given Scripture by _MANY_ pastors and theologians, but he just decides his opinion is higher than the Word. So Andrew is giving him the rest of the argument, on Brandon's own, worldly terms.
This debate was like peeling layers off an onion and seeing the face of the prince of darkness behind Brandon with his admission to agree with the 7 secular tenants of the modern day church of Satan, an entity that exists to undermine biblical Christianity as revealed in the New Testament.
On top of not believing that objective truth is NOT even knowable which makes literally every statement every made just his belief, in which he can’t say for sure if that thing is actually something he believes in because again HE DOESN’T KNOW FOR SURE THE TRUTH VALUE OF WHETHER OR NOT HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN THAT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE or even does engaging in having faith in the first place. He would also not be able to say whether or not the basis for his beliefs is even true ie experience, “facts”, “da science”, “muh preferences” etc. As Andrew put it, all you have to do is agree with him AND YOU WIN.
@ Cmon Brandon, it’s time to do some serious self reflecting. This was not a good showing for you and that’s fine but you need to seriously reconsider your world view.
Brandon's issue is that he has the impression that the scholars of the olden days were not deep thinkers. "Oh, well it was back then, we are so much smarter now." Yeah, but not really. On average we are smarter than that time and have more technology but when it comes to deep thinking and theology, most of us are exactly the same as the peasants Andrew was talking about. What fuels Brandon is pride and entitlement.
At 1:10:00 this is where Andrew KO’s Brandon’s entire worldview. The entire 2 minutes he just unravels how morally bankrupt and empty his entire position is, and the one thing he leans on, the Bible, “might not even be true”.
This was a shocking thing to hear a pastor say. Straight up clutching my pearls when he said God may not exist. What on earth could he possibly be preaching to his congregation….
@@salamandercind2729He’s preaching about “loving and consensual relationships “. 😂 I guess he’s not for one night stands. How can they be “loving” it would be considered more lustrous.
Non-attraction is not an excuse for sin. I know a gay man in my church who is married to a female and has kids with her even though he is not attracted to females. He’s denied his own attraction to men to be righteous. We do not need to give in to temptation simply because it exists.
What he's doing is still wrong. His wife knows he doesn't truly love her the way a husband should and is okay with that? This is precisely why the monastic path is needed, for those who aren't called to marriage
A man can never truly love another man the way. The closest two men could come to loving each other is to reject their attractions for each other’s well-being. He’s done the right thing. He is designed to love this woman and be a father, even in the face of hatred and the adversity of carrying this cross. It is an even greater love. A holy love.
i dont love people or women, women are ran thru and money hungry, cant love that or have kids with that and people are moral relativists and eath cultists, cheaper to just be alone honestly, and im also not attracted to men, women are attractive and then they talk and act like men
The fact that we’re having this debate is just to tell you to open your eyes and realize how far gone the world is now. And sadly It’s not stopping anytime soon.
Sorry but this guy can't teach what "he" believes when it comes to Christianity. You have to speak what God and Jesus believe and put in to word in the Bible. He lost the argument when he said he doesn't believe this and doesn't go by that, in his opening statement
He also claims that everyone will be saved because God can do anything he wants and therefore he will save everyone anyway. So according to him it literally does not matter what you do.
@@WILLTY13 That's a pretty scary mindset to have. That would set in people who have no morals and think there's no consequences for them because they'd believe they'd be saved anyways. There's been a lot of radical religious people who worked on that mindset and did beyond evil things and corrupt the bible to make it completely different. Its why i'm against the saying "Do what makes you happy" because since happiness is subjective depending on the culture, them doing what makes them happy could mean them doing evil things out of it.
@RattlesnakeTV thank you for hosting this discussion. Off topic- it’s difficult to follow when the two guests’ microphone levels are so different- in order to hear Brandan clearly, Andrew’s volume is way too high. Edit: sounds like imbalance is adjusted about 45 minutes in. LISTENERS: stick it out if the volume isn’t working for you at first 😊
My son’s small Texas Hill Country town’s Methodist church split over this. They decided to take a vote but they allowed anyone related to a church member to cast a vote even though most were not regular attendees. Activists from Austin showed up and overturned the will of the core membership. So the gay church has about 25 regular members in a large campus while the over 100 member congregation of local farm and ranchers had to find a new church and pastor. Which they did.
@ 💯 to make him feel like what he’s doing isn’t wrong. I think deep down he knows the truth but he’s fighting for dear life wishing his perspectives to be true but unfortunately the only truth is the lords word and it’s that simple. People can’t accept things for what it is now it’s crazy 😂
@@vendeehommeFalse. Subversives like Brandon have overtaken many mainline institutions. Protestants have never been pro lgbt. These people aren’t Protestant; they’re heretics. This would be like saying liberal gay affirming Catholics are representative of Catholicism.
I've noticed that some people seem to think smoking cigarettes is immoral or at odds with being a Christian, which it actually isn't. Our bodies are "poisoned" by a lot of things, and Christianity has never held that smoking or drinking alcohol is antithetical to being part of the religion. Strictly speaking our bodies are temples of Christ, but smoking is not a deal-breaker.
@@chriscrawl3732 I agree Andrew should quit smoking but at the same time he said that he needs to smoke in order for his gut functions to work. I can't remember what vid he talked about it. If he needs it for his body to function, I'd say he should do it in moderation. My question is though, where in the bible does it say specifically not to smoke? The bible says its ok to drink as long as you don't drink into drunkenness. But where is a verse where it prohibits smoking?
@marcfilms999 are you really arguing that if the Bible doesn't specifically condemn an action, that action is Christ like? Do you believe beast iality is sinful? If yes, where does the Bible say so? Is snorting meth sinful? What verse condemns that?
@chriscrawl3732 I can agree on the two other examples you gave as wrong. I'm personally against smoking and would prefer people not to. As I mentioned, Andrew explained he has a reason for why he does it. Also the for the animal example you gave, that would fall under lust, which is one of the 7 worst sins. Lust is giving into sexual pleasure and desires outside of where God says sex should be, which is in marriage between a man and woman. So I ask again, which verse relates to smoking? It can be a umbrella style verse like how I mentioned lust.
Marriage is a religious institution. Imagine if non Christians began demanding the right to be baptized. Now imagine the govt began issuing licensing for baptism, and gave tax breaks for baptism. The secular world would demand separation of church and state. Govt has no right to be involved with marriage either, nor should any atheist.
Disagree. Street preaching is trying to save souls and preach the gospel and bring people to the Lord. Andrew is best at demolishing people in debates. That's not good for street preaching
The cussing thing is semivalid though the smoking part has no biblical backing. Plus who are you to judge street preacher Andrew. Leading people to the lord is the ultimate good! Street preacher Andrew is approved to be cannon.
@@chriscrawl3732 Which words are listed in the bible that states they can't be said? Many of the swear words we have now have only been around a few hundred years, long after the writing of the bible and events of Christ. Language evolves over time, new words are formed every hundred years, some words change or add additional meanings. If there's words that we shouldn't say, what is a list from the bible we shouldn't say?
Brandon’s entire justification of his worldview is circular: he starts “man-centered” (not God-centered) and subjectively says his way of empiricism and sources he cites as truth, even though he has little to know grounding just inserts modern interpretations of orientation back anachronistically, so Andrew reverses and says “if myself and most Christian denominations think the opposite how would you say that’s objectively wrong Brandon, by what standard?” And Brandon says “because it goes against what ive subjectively determined to be true”, it’s just circular he has no grounding for anything. He has a progressive ideology narrative he starts with and works backwards to prove it true, it’s the reverse-scientific method actually..
Andrew never fails, I actually was interested in this debate to see if maybe this LGBT pastor could provide some different insight to this topic but just like every other debate it ends in PREFERENCE... crazy..... Andrew always puts on a master class.
If a person says they are LGBTQ and support the organization, they are Abrahamic. LGBTQ is a movement, a organization, that is counter to the Abrahamic faiths. Just another ideology to infiltrate and erode the Abrahamic religions.
Brandon has to take this point of view to support his lifestyle. He has to double down on his interpretation to support his moral failings. Poor guy, went to Moody B. I . It had to be tough learning that his proclivity is against the Lord. Can't justify his desires with scripture. Fighting so hard, I feel sorry he is trying to bend scripture to fit himself
which is pure evil and an affront to our Creator - he needs to repent and ask for mercy and fogiveness before its too late else suffer eternal consequence for his prideful arrogance
Except he's also trying to lead others in his false faith, to their detriment. When they attack the Father and His Word to lead others astray, in God's own house, that's very different than offending mankind. Christ gave His harshest rebukes to any church leaders who did this, and He did not hesitate to tell them they were hypocrites, heretics, liars, and/or tools of the enemy, to their faces. We're to be kind, i.e., standing on the Truth for others' salvation, but _nowhere_ does scripture say "be nice" to those who affront God to twist His Will to their use. That's when tables get flipped.
Brandon has repeatedly in the past claimed Jesus was not in fact Divine. So he's saying he has faith in a plain human being who over 2,000 years ago to save him?
No, it wasn't. Not even close. Wes had decorum, grace, and actually pulled out ancient manuscripts from behind his head. Andrew started off the debate with some of the most obtuse nonsense questioning (seriously, trying to imply a tree and a human are the same and possess the same levels of sense of ownership or consent is ridiculous), Honestly, so much of this was so frustrating to watch for me after coming off of watching Wes Huff because Andrew is like a scrappy pitbull. Whereas, Wes is more like a calm sheepdog guarding the flock.
He didn't need to, in this case. Besides, Brandan has a history of twisting scripture, so proving him wrong without quoting scripture destroys the foundation of his argument completely
This dude is not a Protestant, I pretty much despise most Protestant church beliefs, but that’s only recently at that. This dude is a satanist leading people to hell
I can’t believe this is a debate, dudes obviously trying to veer Christians away from Christ. Don’t give him the time of day and let his “church” die out
Andrews assessment of “be nice” is so spot on. Historically, times were rough and Christians didn’t put up with bullshit. We need to return to it aggressively. We are called to be holy, not nice.
The wood example really elucidate how even in Brandan's worldview, he can defend abortion because there's no consent. "Even the foolishness of God is greater than the 'wisdom of man'"
6:28 “ Saint John Chrysostom, the famous Bishop of Constantinople, ascribed the origin of enslavement to the insatiable greed of man and insisted upon Paul's view that in the Church the social distinction of free and slave did not exist…”
For every single person that reads this.....PLEASE PLEASE if you really believe in the power of Christ then you know there is power in prayer especially in mass prayer. PLEASE pray for Brandon, that the HOLY SPIRIT comes down on him so hard to teach him properly. He has the position to lead many people and unfortunately he is leading many straight to hells gates. FATHER, IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY THAT YOU BRING THE HOLY SPIRIT DOWN UPON BRANDON ROBERTS AND LEAD HIM PROPERLY TOWARDS THE TRUTH LORD. SO MANY PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT LORD AS THEY BLINDLY FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS. WE ASK THAT YOU DO THIS WITH MERCY AND GRACE THAT ONLY YOU CAN BRING LORD. WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD HIM INTO A HOLY PLACE AND TEACH HIM TO LEAD OTHERS PROPERLY AND THAT THROUGH BRANDON YOU REACH MANY MANY MORE THAT WERE FORMERLY LOVERS OF THE FATHER OF LIES. PLEASE FATHER IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE ASK THIS OF YOU. YOU SAID THAT IF WE ASKED YOU WOULD DO ANY FOR US AND WE ASK THIS PLEASE LORD AS IT TEARS US APART TO KNOW SO MANY ARE BEING LEAD ASTRAY FROM YOUR LOVE AND MERCY FATHER. IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY FATHER....AMEN!!!!!!!
2:39:56 to be fair and this is in now way part of Andrew Lore, but ECT therapy is used in many mental illnesses and even in some physical situations such as TBI. With homosexuality aside, why would it be wrong to recommend ECT for gender dysmorphia. Before you think I’m being inflammatory, please consider that I have personally undergone over a 12 rounds of ECT as a result of mental issues following a TBI. My rapid cycle & Type II BPD, Aphasia, and Pseudo Bullbar Affect issues weren’t remotely under control until we added ECT to my treatment and I am now 2 years past the life expectancy I was given in 2013 at the time I came out of my coma that resulted from a TBI. ECT isn’t pleasant, but neither is rehab after orthopedic surgery, sinus rebuild, etc… the question should be aimed at the results.
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity no debate as in not entertaining enough? The dude said the bible says nothing about condemning homosexuality. He's wrong. Debate over.
I do not agree with Brandon on almost everything accept that Andrew's premise with "dead grandma" is ridiculous. And I don't understand why, in so many debates, Andrew has to go to such outrageous scenarios to make a point. My problem is; it's just not necessary. Especially in this debate where his opponent is riddled with contradictions. I agree with a lot of what Andrew says, but I haven't been able to get on board with his debate strategy because, although I agree that getting to the nucleus of an argument is critical, it often loses many that are anxious to get to the point, or it's just boring or plain ridiculous.
He admits in his open that his Christianity is always "evolving". My question to him is how do you know what your religion has evolved into is still in fact Christianity???
You say that like it's a good thing. He doesn't use scripture and he goes off on ridiculous tangents like incestual necrophilia while smoking and cursing. That's anything but "style"
I think Brandan is saying Andrew could be right, is because he knows deep down inside ,his Sin is consuming him! Jesus Christ will open his eyes I have Faith!!!!
I 100% understand what Andrew is doing with the dead granny inquiry but it's obvious Brandon is not going to answer it's time to move this conversation forward
Right, and Brandon guy could just say something like "you're violating the dignity of a human being which he holds in higher regard than a piece of wood." And could move on.
@@calebalessi1621Agreed. Brandon could have and probably should have just said that, but I think he was probably so flabbergasted that someone would even raise that line of questioning because it's so ridiculous on its face that he just didn't think to go there. I know Andrew's fans are going to like that kind of tactic, but as someone who only watches him passively, I think it was a pretty embarrassing move on his part.
@@calebalessi1621yeah but Andrew is trying to get him to be consistent with his view of harm as a standard. "Violating the dignity of a human being" doesn't show harm especially considering granny gave consent prior and thus herself would not view it as violating her human dignity.
@@calebalessi1621 no, because of his idea of consent. You missed the logic involved. Brandon understood the logic but deliberately refused to directly answer the question. Once he admitted to the “corruption” around the equation it would blow his position completely out of the water.
Within like 10 minutes Andrew got this guy to say the Bible isn't true, and that he agrees with all the core principles of satanism. Jeeze how can he even continue the debate after this?
I thought the same thing.
Once I knew his position, a proud satanist pastor. I didn't take the debate seriously anymore after those 15 minutes or so. I took it as an absurd woke entertainment that has nothing to do with the bible or god
Crazy part is that he is a pastor. How?
@@dotagodtv1508 Protestant one, so it's invalid anyway
Which one of the 7 tenets do you not agree with?
Andrew's haters will say Andrew is meanie and a bad Christian coz he goes full bloodsports on his opponents. Brandan Robertson for the first time in his entire adult life has been confronted and demolished by somebody willing to say the truth without sugercoating it. THAT PERSON WAS ANDREW !!
And when somebody attacked the Father, His Word, or His Will, Christ didn't mince words. It's why the pharisees and others tried to grab Him many times before the cross.
@@AnyaMidkiffExactly. People who believe the "hippy" Jesus didn't read the Gospels. He was calling EVERYONE out. Especially one group, who hates Him more than anyone.
but he smokes !!!!!
I demolished Brandon last year
1 Peter 3:15
It's sad to see Brandan so lost. Not only in his sin but his views in this world. May he find God Jesus and be saved before its too late.
I hope you feel the same way about every televangelist
Other Christians think you’re not saved.
Don’t feel sorry for him. The Bible says there’s a sin of death and not even to pray for people like this.
@@Queenkam796 Yes. While I can't speak for all televangelists, most are not saved.
@@realgnbrian Neither are you according to other Christian denominations.
what part of "go and sin no more" does this homosexual not understand?
All of it
That's the problem all the fake hippy Jesus people run into. Jesus was whipping the "merchants" out of the temple. He was no "do what you want, man" hippy like these s0d0mites want to portray.
No he understands the go sin bit perfectly, it's the no more bit he struggles with
He doesnt think his homesexual acts are sin.
They understand it perfectly, they just DONT CARE.
The reason why I won’t call people by a fake pronoun is EXACTLY what Andrew is saying. ITS NOT REALITY AND REALITY MATTERS.
Same here, I'm not gonna play into delusion. They want the whole world to take part in their charade and they gotta accept the fact that not everyone is gonna play that game.
reality also includes 0 proof of miracles or demons and super powers of any kind, I hope we agree on both lol
People seem to forget, when offering sympathy, that Brandon is promoting himself as a church _leader_ and leading others to death. Knowingly. He's read and heard the Truth many, many times, and rejected it in favor of his opinion and definitions. This isn't something Christ minced words on when setting false church leaders straight. It is not kind to be "nice" about people twisting His Will and Word in His own house to mislead others. We don't define love or sin, God does. Period. And while we forgive those who wrong _US_ we don't give sympathy to those who willingly mock Him and serve the enemy.
Romans 1 is specifically about this sort of person.
This kid Brandon is dangerous
I'm not sure his followers will be judged for his teaching. But the Bible is clear as the shepherd he most certainly will.
@@rogerledoux4741 They most likely will be if they continue to listen to that false prophet. They are actively choosing to follow Brandon's teachings despite hearing the truth.
What words did Christ not mince? What of the 200 recorded words of christ included info about homosexuality etc? Were those direft witnesses or people 5/30 years post resurrection.
One position: christ is son of creater GOD the almighty, died and rose again....anything after that is mankind's words not Christ's nor gods. Too much attempts to corrupt the scriptures and texts by monarch and political purposes over thousands of years make it a mute point in 2024. God is real...Jesus is too.....and Jesus isn't sending people who masturbate or are lesbian etc to hell....that's not the nature of God. Yahweh is not god....jehovah and yah weh are names of the demon lucifer claiming to be God. There's plenty of stories of Satan claiming to be God in scripture. It's not trustworthy. You think Satan wouldn't corrupt the Bible? OF COURSE it's the most jmportant document and story and testimony! Of course Satan targeted it! And the Vatican and the church too! Look at it today@ It's been corrupt . If Jesus showed up tomorrow and this dude just scked a D....if he accepts Jesus in his heart Jesus has COMPASSION .....his heart turns away from no man animal or any lifeforms. Sorry you're wrong. Andrew is right about alot of things but so much is just literally cult mentality
Wow. Just a few minutes in and Andrew has Brandan admitting that everything he believes is subversive and satanic. Wow. 😮 This. is. a. masterclass.
If Brandan would only admit that he's a Satanist and not a Christian, certainly not a Protestant
Which of the 7 tenets do you not believe in?
A preacher who says he has no answers for souls it's above his pay grade? The who point of the pastor is to help care for the soul.
He just said he doesn't believe the Bible. Enough said- Stop debating. He's not a minister of God.
Well the Bible is the word of man not the word of god, god can’t write and he doesn’t talk to people that voice in your head is your conscious not god
@@SupremeWillisNo one's saying God physically wrote scripture, but it's such a basic Christian tenant to believe that the men who did write it were inspired and filled by the Holy Spirit aka Gos
@@SupremeWillis Wrong. The Bible clearly states that the fullness of deity was indwelt within Christ (Colossians 2:9). And, while his apostles and those associated with the apostles may have written the Biblical accounts, not Jesus directly, it was indeed the words of God. John 14:26 says, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."
For the viewers who are joining ! Let me give you spoilers !!
Andrew broke brandan's philosophical , psychological, scientific and theological pillers with such precision that it's almost career ending for robertson.
We can only hope. Brandon is doing the devil's work alone and we pray that it ends.
Wrong. My Truth is the fruit won.
I am just starting and I am hoping this is true... SO HOPING!!!!
@@davidfunk6698Your truth? You sound like one of them. Or maybe you are and I took your meaning of the fruit wrong. In that case the fruit definitely lost.
@@davidfunk6698my truth is that you’re completely deluded.
I don't think Brandan actually understands how badly he lost this debate
Yeah, I am a big Andrew Wilson fan his style & his debate tactics are great, I already know he won this, I am starting it right now & I am feeling 2nd hand embarrassment through the screen on his behalf, this debate premise is like "Is the moon made of cheese" ? The debate proposition is not worthy of serious inquiry like "is abortion murder" well yes some things are objectively true or false, the thing that is harmful & false theology being taken seriously & believed is the harm that God only knows all the people negativity affected, I assume based on your comment sounds like the unawares of Nadir Ahmed which is easily the worst debater I have ever seen, literally blind to all past debate performances.
Brandon is a symbol of confidence doesn’t equal to competence.
@gregorytremain4086 yes I see this alot, like in dawah the Muhammad Hijab's & the chest thumping of an absolute ignorant person, with unflinching confidence like an Andrew Tate, telling on himself for 10 years on so many videos, says it all in full confidence & thankfully it will all be used as evidence against him now, but I agree with you that confidence does not equal competence.
When he’s surrounded by so many lies that he can’t recognize truth when it stares at him, makes it not only believable but necessarily true that he can’t recognize losing. I think he left truth behind a long time ago and it will literally take and act of God to show him any truth at all.
@@gregorytremain4086lol I just heard those exact words on the PBD and Wes Huff podcast!! Did u just listen to it???😂
If not, u should!
Mercy, that was brutal. Brandan kept repeatedly hitting himself in the face. I was cringing so much every time he actively contradicted himself, contradicted the Bible, or denied his own previously claimed line of logic when it no longer supported his given lie. This was like watching a 10 year old fighting to validate his belief in why his favorite fill-in-the-blank is better than anybody else's.
He could not answer the most simple questions so many times it was simply pitiful.
What did you think about all of andrews hypotheticals? Grandmas arm, trees, etc, I think he could have cut all that out. It was unnecessary
Wow
@Jeremy-wp4yh It's gross to talk about those things, but I understand why Andrew bring them up when talking about ethics and moral philosophy.
If people hold the opinion that morality is based on the harm principle then it's easy to craft a disgusting hypothetical that those principles can't account for, and they have no way of saying those disgusting things are objectively immoral.
It's worth understanding the shortcomings of having subjective morals. If morality is subjective, then it's merely personal preferences. No personal preference can be objectively more true than another. This means someone can believe horrendous atrocities are moral, and it's just as valid as someone who doesn't.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you wuss
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you’re to emotional. When you appeal to emotion in a logical argument, it shows your lack of intelligence.
I love this guy's debate style. You'll never prove me wrong because I'll never agree to any absolute thing.
So true. Lol
how can you even call yourself a christian and not beleive what the disciples and apostles said?
Like for real, you can't be a Christian while also disbelieving most of the NT and the gospels in particular.
Once I'm done with my first viewing I'll come back with time stamps. So far he has admitted he is agnostic, isn't sure about the soul, supports the 7 tenants of an organization antithetical to Christianity, aaand denies scripture. Off the top of my head I know scripture that outright puts the lie to his claims.
I'd also like to state that I'm not myself a Christian, I'm more like a cheerleader on the sideline... and also I should say I'm a little on the homosexal side. Because I cannot be what Christianity asks of me I'm comfortable not intruding on others beliefs.
maybe-cause-the-rainbow-is-a-bagelite?!......come-on-now!
Good question. I honestly couldn't figure out what this guys game is. I assume it's some kind of scam because none of it made sense. Is he drifting money from supporters or is he there as a subversive force to corrupt the traditional church values?
@@DavidRobinson-sv2ivGnosticism and Mysticism has been used by many to iinfiltrate all institutions and eroded them from the inside. Ot is all about self. To change and distort for self. Hagel viewed himself as a Christian but his wrtings show he wanted to be his own god. Individuals who do not follow the Prophets of God, listen to God's will, continue to sin and not atone their own transgressions, they are not part of any Abrahamic faith. He chose to call himself a Protestant just to go against Catholicism, but one more step in his path of subversion.
Brandon is trying to argue from scriptures. The same bible or scriptures that he denies to be true.
Ah, the oldest trick in the book. The devil himself has used the word against Christians.
Brandon wants God to conform to him, not the other way around!😵💫🤯
Exactly
What I find amazing is he says God can be wrong. We'll then he's not God. Logic is not this guy's strong suit.
💯
@@rogerledoux4741 I never understood how someone could think God could be wrong when God created everything. A creator creates the rules and writes the story of the universe. Not sure how God or something like God in a hypothetical could be wrong if they wrote the rules.
If we want to keep the law, we should keep the whole law. The law isn´t a buffet, that you can pick from what you like, and leave what you dislike.
For example, why don´t we keep the Shabbath anymore ? This is the day that our Lord rested in the tomb. From the approximately, at most, 36 hours he was dead, 24 was on the Shabbath.
Even though God ordered us to keep this day, the Shabbath, holy, yet no Christian is willing to keep it. We are all a bunch of hypocrites.
I’m not religious, but andrew destroys this guy
Same here man. I aint about to go back to church but andrew is hands down my favorite dude on the internet. Absolutely love how he can destroy these heretics and im cheering him on
@@muzien87 Why not go this Sunday? just to check it out.
@@KGBos because church is supposed to be on Saturday and born again evangelical Christianity is nothing even close to what Christ taught.
@@Merkangouruhh many evangelical churches teach exactly what Christ taught
@@markruby3916 and where is Christ's teachings found?
Andrew's opening statement is basically just him roasting this guy.
It points out the hypocrisy. If you are a gambler, an alcoholic, a drug addict, a sexually perverted person, you are supposed to die and follow Jesus. Give up what is sinful.
🤣 and then from that point on "this guy" AKA Andrew dismantled his whole opening statement.
"Jesus may not be true" ended the debate...... Jesus is truth....
I am the way, THE TRUTH and the life…
what-do-you-expect-from-a-bagel-rainbow-trying-to-grift-the-religion-he-loathes?!
@@SpaceCowboy46 only true with faith 🔐 #accesscode
@@SpaceCowboy46 & he thinks he should be a minister....
The cognitive dissonance in Brandon runs deep.
Funny to see Brandon have no idea that Andrew isn't Catholic and thus ALSO doesn't believe in the infallibility of the Pope.
The church has not changed their beliefs on 'slavery'. It was always anti-slavery & much of the early church were slaves/former slaves who flocked to the message & hope it offered them.
At least insofar as how slaves should be *treated* if you have slaves. Some will point to the command for slaves to be obedient as a knock against Christians but ignore the part about the masters being warned that they will be treated in the next life in the way they treat their slaves/servants.
Combine that with the command to love your neighbor as you would love yourself, the rational conclusion is that you're ordered to be a *very* considerate and understanding master.
Which, tbh, makes the dynamic more like an employer than the type of chattel slavery done often.
Yes- slaves obey your masters is anti-slavery- totally.
@@ragingsmurfling7205 I can't remember the verse but it stated that masters and people who are sold people should be put to the sword. Basically stating people can't own people or sell people.
Do we give Brandan points for deciding to engage Andrew? Or do we ask why he ever agreed to subject himself to this?
I would say given points. Props should always be given for someone even willing to have the conversation.
@Snow-Willow
Agreed. As much as I disagree with 99.9% of what Brandan said, he was kind, open to the conversation and humble enough to "concede" at times.
He gets major points for engaging in good faith, actually answering questions, being good natured, etc.
He lost the debate, but otherwise he was a good participant
@joeyn985 but considering his theology. Does he actually engage in good faith? I'm torn
Both
We do need to pray for Mr. Robertson.
We should support lgb like we support our disabled children 🥲
This is what separates Andrew from other Christian debaters !! Andrew doesn't rely on theological arguments....he adopts a holistic approach and destroys the foundation of all claims you make whether you make a scientific or a psychological claim.
But Andrew has no biblical foundation which defeats the entire purpose of this conversation. This debate was with a gay pastor. Surely it MUST include scripture
@@Jeremy-wp4yh is there not wisdom that follows biblical truths and principles, does not go against them, but is worded differently?
@@Jeremy-wp4yh The gay pastor should debate GodLogic next. That'll put the nail in the coffin.
Thing is, in standing on the scripture and it's principles, it applies to all else.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhBrandon has been given Scripture by _MANY_ pastors and theologians, but he just decides his opinion is higher than the Word. So Andrew is giving him the rest of the argument, on Brandon's own, worldly terms.
This debate was like peeling layers off an onion and seeing the face of the prince of darkness behind Brandon with his admission to agree with the 7 secular tenants of the modern day church of Satan, an entity that exists to undermine biblical Christianity as revealed in the New Testament.
So dark. Thats what an unbeliever would say of the light
On top of not believing that objective truth is NOT even knowable which makes literally every statement every made just his belief, in which he can’t say for sure if that thing is actually something he believes in because again HE DOESN’T KNOW FOR SURE THE TRUTH VALUE OF WHETHER OR NOT HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN THAT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE or even does engaging in having faith in the first place.
He would also not be able to say whether or not the basis for his beliefs is even true ie experience, “facts”, “da science”, “muh preferences” etc.
As Andrew put it, all you have to do is agree with him AND YOU WIN.
Brandan Robertson is arrogantly mocking religion.
This was a bloodbath 😅😅😅 but in fairness, Brandan is man enough not to rage quit unlike Matt the Atheist smug.
Both are Gai tho
He was a good sport. Wrong as he was
Matt is a lot more logical and had no shield of "love" to hide behind. So of course Matt figured out quickly he wasn't going to win perpetuating lies.
This was a total and utter dismantling. My goodness.
I know. How embarrassing for Andrew.
@@revbrandanrobertson
LOL!
Yeah....sure.
@ Cmon Brandon, it’s time to do some serious self reflecting. This was not a good showing for you and that’s fine but you need to seriously reconsider your world view.
@revbrandanrobertson do you support consenting adults to have seggs? Say a man and his adult daughter? Yes or no?
@@revbrandanrobertsondid we watch the same video?
Moody bible Institute should be ashamed of themselves.
Andrew has systematically revealed that Brandon has no ground to stand on, amazing.
Brandon's issue is that he has the impression that the scholars of the olden days were not deep thinkers.
"Oh, well it was back then, we are so much smarter now."
Yeah, but not really. On average we are smarter than that time and have more technology but when it comes to deep thinking and theology, most of us are exactly the same as the peasants Andrew was talking about.
What fuels Brandon is pride and entitlement.
I want Brandon to read a bit from the Summa Theologica and then try to say that again with a straight face.
Brandon worships satan. He is aware he is lying.
At 1:10:00 this is where Andrew KO’s Brandon’s entire worldview. The entire 2 minutes he just unravels how morally bankrupt and empty his entire position is, and the one thing he leans on, the Bible, “might not even be true”.
This was a shocking thing to hear a pastor say. Straight up clutching my pearls when he said God may not exist. What on earth could he possibly be preaching to his congregation….
@@salamandercind2729He’s preaching about “loving and consensual relationships “. 😂 I guess he’s not for one night stands. How can they be “loving” it would be considered more lustrous.
This is the problem with having your entire foundation based on your feelings.
As a protestant, I am so sad that Brandan works for satan. I hope he repents and finds Jesus.
20minutes in the guy is saying "I'm friend with satanists". Guess the debate is over lol. GG
Non-attraction is not an excuse for sin. I know a gay man in my church who is married to a female and has kids with her even though he is not attracted to females. He’s denied his own attraction to men to be righteous. We do not need to give in to temptation simply because it exists.
What he's doing is still wrong. His wife knows he doesn't truly love her the way a husband should and is okay with that? This is precisely why the monastic path is needed, for those who aren't called to marriage
A man can never truly love another man the way. The closest two men could come to loving each other is to reject their attractions for each other’s well-being. He’s done the right thing. He is designed to love this woman and be a father, even in the face of hatred and the adversity of carrying this cross. It is an even greater love. A holy love.
i dont love people or women, women are ran thru and money hungry, cant love that or have kids with that and people are moral relativists and eath cultists, cheaper to just be alone honestly, and im also not attracted to men, women are attractive and then they talk and act like men
@RalphCifaretto-iy1hk Love ≠ attraction. Don’t be ridiculous
The fact that we’re having this debate is just to tell you to open your eyes and realize how far gone the world is now. And sadly It’s not stopping anytime soon.
ANDREW WRECKED THIS GUY SO BADLY THAT THE SEWING CIRCLE CHRISTIANS WOULD BE SPERGING ABOUT HIM FOR DAYS ON X. LOL.
Sorry but this guy can't teach what "he" believes when it comes to Christianity. You have to speak what God and Jesus believe and put in to word in the Bible. He lost the argument when he said he doesn't believe this and doesn't go by that, in his opening statement
He also claims that everyone will be saved because God can do anything he wants and therefore he will save everyone anyway. So according to him it literally does not matter what you do.
@@WILLTY13dude is lost in the fruit of his fruitiness.
@@WILLTY13 That's a pretty scary mindset to have. That would set in people who have no morals and think there's no consequences for them because they'd believe they'd be saved anyways. There's been a lot of radical religious people who worked on that mindset and did beyond evil things and corrupt the bible to make it completely different. Its why i'm against the saying "Do what makes you happy" because since happiness is subjective depending on the culture, them doing what makes them happy could mean them doing evil things out of it.
@ if it were only that easy 🤣🤦
He deserves zero Sympathy. Glad you didn’t hold back
@RattlesnakeTV thank you for hosting this discussion.
Off topic- it’s difficult to follow when the two guests’ microphone levels are so different- in order to hear Brandan clearly, Andrew’s volume is way too high.
Edit: sounds like imbalance is adjusted about 45 minutes in. LISTENERS: stick it out if the volume isn’t working for you at first 😊
That's a great critique. I noticed the same.
My son’s small Texas Hill Country town’s Methodist church split over this. They decided to take a vote but they allowed anyone related to a church member to cast a vote even though most were not regular attendees. Activists from Austin showed up and overturned the will of the core membership. So the gay church has about 25 regular members in a large campus while the over 100 member congregation of local farm and ranchers had to find a new church and pastor. Which they did.
What a mess.
While that is awful, how weak of the congregants to allow their home church to be overrun by evil people.
They should’ve kicked the homosexuals out
Brandan's therapist works so well, he's needed him for 15 years.
My eyes almost popped out of my head when I saw the title of this video lol
This is going to be very interesting!
It’s the “ from my perspective “ for me 😂 W Andrew
“I feel” that is all Brandon has.
@ 💯 to make him feel like what he’s doing isn’t wrong. I think deep down he knows the truth but he’s fighting for dear life wishing his perspectives to be true but unfortunately the only truth is the lords word and it’s that simple. People can’t accept things for what it is now it’s crazy 😂
Brandon keeps bringing up "protestant" like they accept homosexuality.
Many of the thousands of Protestant religions do accept the goodness of homosexuality. The Ancient Faith (Catholic and Orthodox) does not.
@vendeehomme that's new information I'll look into it, thanks for the insight.
@@vendeehommeI don't doubt your claim, but the term 'the goodness of homosexuality' is nuts. Sounds like an oxymoron. 'the goodness of murder'
@@vendeehommeFalse. Subversives like Brandon have overtaken many mainline institutions. Protestants have never been pro lgbt. These people aren’t Protestant; they’re heretics.
This would be like saying liberal gay affirming Catholics are representative of Catholicism.
Love these debates ❤
damn, jackie kennedy is fine af!
Brandon admitted to agreeing to the tenants of Satanism. End of debate
Tenet*
tenant is something entirely different
@johannesstephanusroos4969
Its literally the foundations of Brandon's beliefs
I've noticed that some people seem to think smoking cigarettes is immoral or at odds with being a Christian, which it actually isn't. Our bodies are "poisoned" by a lot of things, and Christianity has never held that smoking or drinking alcohol is antithetical to being part of the religion. Strictly speaking our bodies are temples of Christ, but smoking is not a deal-breaker.
Intentionally giving yourself cancer is 100% sinful. Andrew needs to repent and quit smoking.
@@chriscrawl3732intentionally drinking Coca Cola and getting diabetes is ok though for Christians?
@@chriscrawl3732 I agree Andrew should quit smoking but at the same time he said that he needs to smoke in order for his gut functions to work. I can't remember what vid he talked about it. If he needs it for his body to function, I'd say he should do it in moderation. My question is though, where in the bible does it say specifically not to smoke? The bible says its ok to drink as long as you don't drink into drunkenness. But where is a verse where it prohibits smoking?
@marcfilms999 are you really arguing that if the Bible doesn't specifically condemn an action, that action is Christ like? Do you believe beast iality is sinful? If yes, where does the Bible say so? Is snorting meth sinful? What verse condemns that?
@chriscrawl3732 I can agree on the two other examples you gave as wrong. I'm personally against smoking and would prefer people not to. As I mentioned, Andrew explained he has a reason for why he does it. Also the for the animal example you gave, that would fall under lust, which is one of the 7 worst sins. Lust is giving into sexual pleasure and desires outside of where God says sex should be, which is in marriage between a man and woman. So I ask again, which verse relates to smoking? It can be a umbrella style verse like how I mentioned lust.
Marriage is a religious institution. Imagine if non Christians began demanding the right to be baptized. Now imagine the govt began issuing licensing for baptism, and gave tax breaks for baptism. The secular world would demand separation of church and state. Govt has no right to be involved with marriage either, nor should any atheist.
So when non religious people get married how is that a religious institution 😂
Hey anyone can get baptised, they just have to profess Christ and thus become a child of God. Oops, lol
Keep Moderating debates, best I've seen in a while
This guy is THE wolf in sheep’s clothing.
At minute 32 he says he’s an agnostic. What are we debating here?
Andrew Wilson would make a great street preacher
Disagree. Street preaching is trying to save souls and preach the gospel and bring people to the Lord.
Andrew is best at demolishing people in debates. That's not good for street preaching
Smoking, cussing street preachers harm the Christian faith.
The cussing thing is semivalid though the smoking part has no biblical backing. Plus who are you to judge street preacher Andrew. Leading people to the lord is the ultimate good! Street preacher Andrew is approved to be cannon.
@@chriscrawl3732 Which words are listed in the bible that states they can't be said? Many of the swear words we have now have only been around a few hundred years, long after the writing of the bible and events of Christ. Language evolves over time, new words are formed every hundred years, some words change or add additional meanings. If there's words that we shouldn't say, what is a list from the bible we shouldn't say?
This was such a bashing it felt fake 😂 the first few minutes in andrew had him admitting crazy stuff
well he was trying to debate honestly
Brandon’s entire justification of his worldview is circular: he starts “man-centered” (not God-centered) and subjectively says his way of empiricism and sources he cites as truth, even though he has little to know grounding just inserts modern interpretations of orientation back anachronistically, so Andrew reverses and says “if myself and most Christian denominations think the opposite how would you say that’s objectively wrong Brandon, by what standard?” And Brandon says “because it goes against what ive subjectively determined to be true”, it’s just circular he has no grounding for anything. He has a progressive ideology narrative he starts with and works backwards to prove it true, it’s the reverse-scientific method actually..
Andrew never fails, I actually was interested in this debate to see if maybe this LGBT pastor could provide some different insight to this topic but just like every other debate it ends in PREFERENCE... crazy.....
Andrew always puts on a master class.
If a person says they are LGBTQ and support the organization, they are Abrahamic. LGBTQ is a movement, a organization, that is counter to the Abrahamic faiths. Just another ideology to infiltrate and erode the Abrahamic religions.
brandan was always based on hypocrisy
Please Trent from The Council of Trent we need you to debate Brandan Robertson. Brandan is leading so many people astray with his heresy
Trent horn himself belongs to heresy church, what good comes from two heretics debating?
Trent's had a discussion with him on this if I'm not mistaken. It's on TH-cam
Brandon has to take this point of view to support his lifestyle. He has to double down on his interpretation to support his moral failings. Poor guy, went to Moody B. I . It had to be tough learning that his proclivity is against the Lord. Can't justify his desires with scripture. Fighting so hard, I feel sorry he is trying to bend scripture to fit himself
which is pure evil and an affront to our Creator - he needs to repent and ask for mercy and fogiveness before its too late else suffer eternal consequence for his prideful arrogance
Except he's also trying to lead others in his false faith, to their detriment. When they attack the Father and His Word to lead others astray, in God's own house, that's very different than offending mankind. Christ gave His harshest rebukes to any church leaders who did this, and He did not hesitate to tell them they were hypocrites, heretics, liars, and/or tools of the enemy, to their faces. We're to be kind, i.e., standing on the Truth for others' salvation, but _nowhere_ does scripture say "be nice" to those who affront God to twist His Will to their use. That's when tables get flipped.
By minute 20, this was over. Basically, he's admitting he's a subversion.
Thanks for having my buddy Jonathan on. Sorry couldn't make it tonight
I don't know who you are...
@@jonathandynan8123 I believe you took everything from him.
Andrew Wilson delivered such a killer argument, his opponent’s head spiritually checked out before their neck got the memo. FATALITY!
Andrew bulldozed this bozo swiftly
Andrew is absolutely great! So knowledgeable about so many things ❤
Brandon has repeatedly in the past claimed Jesus was not in fact Divine. So he's saying he has faith in a plain human being who over 2,000 years ago to save him?
Ive never said that- check your claims
He's agnostic lol according to this video. You give him too much credit.
This was as equal of a smackdown to Billy Carson & Wesley Huff
Nah. This was way worse.
I watched both. This was much worse.
Wes isn’t well versed in logic. Plus he’s Protestant.
No, it wasn't. Not even close. Wes had decorum, grace, and actually pulled out ancient manuscripts from behind his head.
Andrew started off the debate with some of the most obtuse nonsense questioning (seriously, trying to imply a tree and a human are the same and possess the same levels of sense of ownership or consent is ridiculous), Honestly, so much of this was so frustrating to watch for me after coming off of watching Wes Huff because Andrew is like a scrappy pitbull. Whereas, Wes is more like a calm sheepdog guarding the flock.
I find it strange that during this whole debate Andrew does not use Scripture, he says he’s a Christian.✝️
He didn't need to, in this case. Besides, Brandan has a history of twisting scripture, so proving him wrong without quoting scripture destroys the foundation of his argument completely
Common Andrew Wilson W, Common Protestant L
I think most protestants would denounce Brandon as well. This has nothing to do with protestants vs. orthodox, but believers and false teachers.
Protestant in name only. Guy doesn't adhere to any established protestant doctrines, much less traditional Protestantism.
Oh please he ain’t even Christian 😭
This dude is not a Protestant, I pretty much despise most Protestant church beliefs, but that’s only recently at that. This dude is a satanist leading people to hell
Calling him a protestant is a bit silly. He goes against pretty much all established protestant doctrines.
Armin Meiwes completely destroys the “it’s all about consent” argument.
Fascinating to learn the only things in the bible that are false are the only things that Brandon disagrees with.
When he starts by saying he's basically picking and choosing scripture, the debate is over.
W King Andrew
I can’t believe this is a debate, dudes obviously trying to veer Christians away from Christ. Don’t give him the time of day and let his “church” die out
Andrews assessment of “be nice” is so spot on. Historically, times were rough and Christians didn’t put up with bullshit. We need to return to it aggressively. We are called to be holy, not nice.
The wood example really elucidate how even in Brandan's worldview, he can defend abortion because there's no consent. "Even the foolishness of God is greater than the 'wisdom of man'"
Fetuses aren't humans
Greek Orthodox vs heretic
Eastern Orthodox.
If Brandon ever ends up in the arena with Wes Huff, his view of the “Bible buffet” is going to get rolled up like Billy Carson’s Emerald Tablets.
Poor Billy 😂
An hour in and Andrew hasn't even brought scripture....smh.
Coz brandon doesn't recognise scripture as an authority.
Brandon based on his wishes picks and choses the authority he wants.
@ nope listen to his own words…. 1:09:20
Granny: whn i die my inheritence shall go to Brandon
Andrew: granny left you $4m inheritence in her will
Brandon: the will is not active consent
😂💯
Great stream. Well moderated, Jake. Well argued, Andrew. Thanks for showing up Brandon.
6:28 “ Saint John Chrysostom, the famous Bishop of Constantinople, ascribed the origin of enslavement to the insatiable greed of man and insisted upon Paul's view that in the Church the social distinction of free and slave did not exist…”
For every single person that reads this.....PLEASE PLEASE if you really believe in the power of Christ then you know there is power in prayer especially in mass prayer. PLEASE pray for Brandon, that the HOLY SPIRIT comes down on him so hard to teach him properly. He has the position to lead many people and unfortunately he is leading many straight to hells gates.
FATHER, IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY THAT YOU BRING THE HOLY SPIRIT DOWN UPON BRANDON ROBERTS AND LEAD HIM PROPERLY TOWARDS THE TRUTH LORD. SO MANY PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT LORD AS THEY BLINDLY FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS. WE ASK THAT YOU DO THIS WITH MERCY AND GRACE THAT ONLY YOU CAN BRING LORD. WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD HIM INTO A HOLY PLACE AND TEACH HIM TO LEAD OTHERS PROPERLY AND THAT THROUGH BRANDON YOU REACH MANY MANY MORE THAT WERE FORMERLY LOVERS OF THE FATHER OF LIES. PLEASE FATHER IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE ASK THIS OF YOU. YOU SAID THAT IF WE ASKED YOU WOULD DO ANY FOR US AND WE ASK THIS PLEASE LORD AS IT TEARS US APART TO KNOW SO MANY ARE BEING LEAD ASTRAY FROM YOUR LOVE AND MERCY FATHER. IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY FATHER....AMEN!!!!!!!
Amen 🙏🏼
Amen
Amen
Amen.
2:39:56 to be fair and this is in now way part of Andrew Lore, but ECT therapy is used in many mental illnesses and even in some physical situations such as TBI. With homosexuality aside, why would it be wrong to recommend ECT for gender dysmorphia. Before you think I’m being inflammatory, please consider that I have personally undergone over a 12 rounds of ECT as a result of mental issues following a TBI. My rapid cycle & Type II BPD, Aphasia, and Pseudo Bullbar Affect issues weren’t remotely under control until we added ECT to my treatment and I am now 2 years past the life expectancy I was given in 2013 at the time I came out of my coma that resulted from a TBI. ECT isn’t pleasant, but neither is rehab after orthopedic surgery, sinus rebuild, etc… the question should be aimed at the results.
Doesn't it specifically say man should not lie with a man as with a woman?
It means sexual assault
Yes it does. Leviticus 18:22(keep in mind that the next verse is about beastiality) and Leviticus 20:13.
But that’s no debate.
@@AntiSewingCircleChristianity no debate as in not entertaining enough? The dude said the bible says nothing about condemning homosexuality. He's wrong. Debate over.
I wonder if Brandon knows that God will judge pastors more harshly than other believers.
really we take brandan robertson seriously?
So seriously
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nah
He’s not a even Christian
Yes because Satan is using him to deceive many.
I do not agree with Brandon on almost everything accept that Andrew's premise with "dead grandma" is ridiculous.
And I don't understand why, in so many debates, Andrew has to go to such outrageous scenarios to make a point.
My problem is; it's just not necessary. Especially in this debate where his opponent is riddled with contradictions.
I agree with a lot of what Andrew says, but I haven't been able to get on board with his debate strategy because, although I agree that getting to the nucleus of an argument is critical, it often loses many that are anxious to get to the point, or it's just boring or plain ridiculous.
He goes absurd to reflect the absurdity of their logic. He's a bloodsport debater and that's how it goes.
Oh shut up nerd. It’s a perfectly reasonable and effective argument.
I haven’t seen this yet but I am very familiar with both 😂. Big fan of Andrew and big critic of Brandon. I have a feeling this will be a blood bath 😂
He admits in his open that his Christianity is always "evolving". My question to him is how do you know what your religion has evolved into is still in fact Christianity???
Lets all say it together, "Heretic"!!!!
As someone who is studying Christianity atm I have no Idea how Brandan reconciles his behavior and opinions with Christian teaching.
Gay Rattlesnake fan here. Love the debates on this channel. Keep up the good work.
I've never met a gay rattlesnake, that's interesting (I'm kidding, of course)
How is this a pastor? 😅
It's not, just a heretic.
Because the left uses this as a political tool.
Andrew just set him up to talk and he defeated himself.
Oh and calling yourself an "agnostic Christian" is redundant because all Christians have faith in God hence why religions are predicated on faith.
So Brandon has faith in God, but doesn’t know if He’s real. I’m trying to process this madness!😵😵💫
If you are new to Andrews style you need to check out some of us street preachers. We preach the same way all the time in public
You say that like it's a good thing. He doesn't use scripture and he goes off on ridiculous tangents like incestual necrophilia while smoking and cursing. That's anything but "style"
I think Brandan is saying Andrew could be right, is because he knows deep down inside ,his Sin is consuming him! Jesus Christ will open his eyes I have Faith!!!!
This guy is willfully and woefully wrong, I don’t ever see him changing his ways
I 100% understand what Andrew is doing with the dead granny inquiry but it's obvious Brandon is not going to answer it's time to move this conversation forward
Right, and Brandon guy could just say something like "you're violating the dignity of a human being which he holds in higher regard than a piece of wood." And could move on.
@@calebalessi1621Agreed. Brandon could have and probably should have just said that, but I think he was probably so flabbergasted that someone would even raise that line of questioning because it's so ridiculous on its face that he just didn't think to go there. I know Andrew's fans are going to like that kind of tactic, but as someone who only watches him passively, I think it was a pretty embarrassing move on his part.
@@calebalessi1621yeah but Andrew is trying to get him to be consistent with his view of harm as a standard. "Violating the dignity of a human being" doesn't show harm especially considering granny gave consent prior and thus herself would not view it as violating her human dignity.
@@calebalessi1621 no, because of his idea of consent. You missed the logic involved.
Brandon understood the logic but deliberately refused to directly answer the question.
Once he admitted to the “corruption” around the equation it would blow his position completely out of the water.
100 percent funny.