Got my jeep gladiator back in December, best truck/ car I ever own. Doors off top off in the summer. Doors off in the fall, first day of a snow storm we going doors off. The ride is like no other and the staring is perfect, people complain about it being loose I live in Jersey with the Roads are unbearable and it's perfect. If you ever hit a pothole at a decent speed your steering wheel start shaking left to right the Jeep handle it like a champ!
@@HaulYT none so far, just some rail doors for that open air experience and a jeep gladiator rain jacket just in case you got caught in the rain with your top and doors off. For me something you can modify a vehicle to much that it look weird, each it's own .its that old saying, once you go jeep you have to have one! This is definitely an adult toy you can modify you your own personality. I see why they keep their value and age like fine wine.
My wife just purchased a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Overland. Hers came with rubber floor mats - front & back. Also it has a factory brake controller. The steering is also tight. It's definitely not sloppy. It has the stock tires/rims.
Actually the Sport with the Max Tow package has the highest towing capacity among the models - not the Overland. Sport Max Tow has a 4:10 gear ratio for better towing. Also, factory trailer brake controller is now FINALLY available. Thanks for the good review.
@@dantimber it looks like it can be purchased for all models and can be retrofitted to the models the 2020's that are already on the road. States that the part is $299.00 without labor.
The gas for towing is crap. If your towing 5-6k with it, your sitting in high 4-5k RPM going up steep grades which is really bad for any engine, and no ability to accelerate. If you want to tow, get the diesel. Sure its 1k less towing ability, however that is negligible when it comes to what kind of trailer to get. 1k lbs wont make a huge difference on the trailer size. At best you will increase your trailer length by like 1 foot which isn't much.
Great video brother. Not planning on doing any off road so your video really helped. Other videos was making me want to change my mind. Getting mine this weekend!
Thanks for this! I test drove an automatic sport a few months back and then I test drove a manual Mojave. The manual Mojave is what I fell in love with. So obviously they are different, I didn’t feel the drift in the 2021 Mojave like I did the 2020 sport S. Could be that it’s a manual as well...but yeah. I look forward to joining the community! I will be leaving a Hyundai Elantra hatchback...so a big difference.
I just bought the 2021 sport s with auto and max tow!! The steering is great great i guess jeep fixed it for 21. I love the jeep! Just came from the taco and i can tell you hands down buy the jeep no comparison. This i my first Jeep and now i understand why people love them! the Tacoma auto shifting was terrible and felt sluggish i really wanted to like it but when your wife says it feels slow must be a dog!! I took a hit on my 2022 Tacoma 4x4 v6 base with auto. suspension was also very soft. The jeep did cost me 12k more but so worth it!!
Ok steering is loose, I came from a couple Colorado 4x4’s, that came with rack@pinion steering that was quite tight and precise. But after a couple weeks I don’t feel it so much in my Gladiator. Mileage with my stock 245/75-17, HT, with alloy wheels is 17-23 that’s fine. The UConnect 911 /sos system is fine, 12.3 “ touch screen is great. Towing with out any optional tow or Max to along with low load weight rating of just over 1,000 lbs is fine because the ride is very nice.
Brother there is a service bulletin out for steering. You can get steering gearbox changed. It will tighten it up. Google it or get on gladiator forum.
There is a service bulletin out on FIAT in general.....BUYER BEWARE! CHEAP COMPANY, CHEAP PARTS, CHEAP ENGINEERING, CHEAP = CRAP! IF YOU WANT A REAL JEEP....BUY ONE BUILT PRE-FIAT
Awesome video. You covered a lot, and I like that you actually showed us basically everything you spoke about. Nice to see someone speak normally and calmly, not these gimmicky guys that just sound like salesmen lol
Thank you for the video. I bought a billet silver Gladiator Rubicon manual last Saturday. Traded a Silverado RST with the 6.2 for it. Very happy with the vehicle. I am impressed by how tight all the parts are fitted. Feels very solid. I needed a manual so much that I was willing to lose a V8 for it. It sometimes takes ownership over a period of time to find out what one really wants.
Congratulations and thanks for the nice comment. I agree with you on the quality of the build. I loved mine while I had it. The cab is a bit smaller than han what you are probably used to but the manual transmission has to be fun
late for the party but speaking about the floor mats, Jeep should of done the bedrug for the carpeting as well... current carpets get moldy with any mud or water, bedrug doesn't.
Have watched a few people recently do 1 year reviews on their Gladiators. Any of them that don't use them for anything but day in and day out vehicles said they would not buy again. Does not surprise me. It has taken some non Jeep owners by surprise and they love it. Others eh..I use mine as a daily driver and for serious off roading. In the end, a Jeep is a Jeep and you have to want to use it as such to love a Jeep.
Understand that for sure Aaron. I love mine b/c my expectation was that understanding what it is. That is awesome that you take yours on serious off roading. Do you have videos on the trail? What is your favorite feature of the gladiator in the off road situations?
@@HaulYT I don't post videos on TH-cam but yes I have some. Have most of the Jeep Badges from Moab. I frequently visit there. The best feature of any Jeep is the right upgrades you do to the suspension . I like the length at times when it helps me get up an obstacle where a typical Jeep has issues. But that also has it's disadvantages. In the end, I have a Jeep truck and it CAN wheel hard and still do usual truck things.
Agreed. The steering is certainly more loose than the Nissan pickup I previously had. The Nissan was very responsive and tight. The gladiator requires much more slight wheel movements to go straight down the road. Other than that, the Gladiator rules. It even gets better fuel economy than my well maintained Nissan V6 did. The Nissan was vanilla...the Gladiator makes a statement.
I had a really nice Nissan Pro 4x. 2017. That was the problem. I didn’t want to rough it up. My Gladiator-no problem. It’s what it was made for. You either have a Jeep mentality or not. Ford makes some really nice Broncos. Combination off road vehicle and mini-van. Lots of grocery space. Soccer gear. Etc….
Great review! I have a 2021 Willy's now for about 7 months and it looks like they improved on nearly every one of these "dislikes" Except maybe the passenger side space. I am loving mine!
I like the gladiator so much I got a 2021 mojave. Did not notice any steering issues. I'm going to add new bumpers and add an aftermarket towing set up. I'm fine with the rest of the truck.
There's a service bulletin for your steering! Look up Jeep TSB 08-074-20. They replace the aluminum box with a new cast iron box with steel internals. I had it done and it fixed it! No more wandering, dead spot in steering wheel gone. However, if your vehicle is out of warranty you will probably have to pay for it. Don't let them deny you because of lift and tires.
I don’t think any gladiator is out of warranty period yet. Lol. But the dealers are aholes and give you the run around. I’ve been to 2 dealers and they want me to make appointments to come back so they can test drive and diagnose the issue and make sure my gladiator does have the issue before they even consider ordering the parts. I didn’t have time to go back, so I haven’t had mines done. All the Jeep dealers I’ve been to in California, are all aholes! Out of the whole entire Jeep “family”, I would say the worst of all is the dealerships. Even the crappy vehicles are better than the humans that work at the dealerships.
@@00ninja00 Damn, tsb states they should fix it even if you mention. Call corporate or get on Jeep gladiator forum and contact jeepcares. They have helped get the ball rolling for numerous amount of ppl
I purchased the 2020 jeep Gladiator Rubicon new back in 2019 and it’s been a wild ride for sure with having the aluminum steering box replaced under warranty to a steel steering box that fixed my death wobble steering problem to the dam start stop battery failure draining my main battery causing me to buy two new main batteries only to discover that after I bypass the start stop eliminating the small battery it finally fixed my battery drain to the purchase of a Tazer mini to shut off all of the annoying features like start stop . I would actually buy another jeep Gladiator because it’s been an adventure for sure and a learning curve that once you master the jeep fuckery it’s ok to own one.. 😊
thx for this review. i was specifically looking for folks who have owned the Glad awhile and how they feel after. having just test drove a 16k mile 2021 Overland, i was pretty smitten, but also noted a lot of the same pitfalls: steering wanders at highway speed, lacks interior cargo space, genuine discomfort compared to the Grand Cherokees (which i have driven 20yrs now), and difficulty getting in and out of the tiny cockpit. i know my 78yo mom could not get in or out safely. Gladiators are hella cool trucks, and capable Jeeps once off road. but i don't know if i NEED it as much as i WANT it. one thing i have not heard anyone speak to is snow traction. have you had any chance to test that? also wondering how - if traveling with a dog - how they like it and whether they can get in or out. i currently lift my pup into the Grand Cherokee anyway, but she gets down on her own. Not sure she could get down out of this.
Thanks so much for the comment and view. I have drove the Jeep through 10" snow with no issues, a lot of the traction is around the tires vs the truck. I agree with a lot of your points around interior space and getting in and out. I have had my Bernese mtn dog in and out but he struggles in the back seat bc the width of the seat isn't as wide as a normal backseat. It is a head turner and great for short runs but if you are looking for comfort and practicality then I would look other places
So there is a diesel version ? I live in Europe and gas is expansive. I love gas and V8 but with this heavy machine a diesel is more economic and has more torque for sure. I had a Landrover Defender V8 his only problem was the fuel consumption. But i really loved the sound.
@General Melchett Good shout on the diesel. That hasn't happened in the US but I guess it could be possible in the future but I would be surprised. Lot's of diesel pride over here.
Very helpful. Thank you. I am really wanting to buy a gladiator. I had a Jeep when I was a kid (1974 CJ5) and it was my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. I did a lot of off-roading with it, but I probably will not be doing any more hard-core stuff with with gladiator. Light off-roading for camping, etc. Your review was really helpful. (p.s., "molle is pronounced "molly". I had a bit of trouble figuring out what you were describing... lol)
Thank you for watching and the nice comment. I have gotten the Molle comment quite a bit and deep down I knew that but couldn't get it out of my head. hahaha. Keep me posted if you end up getting one.
Great video. I'm getting a Jeep Gladiator on Friday. BTW MOLLE is pronounced Molly. 27 years in the Army and you are the first person I have ever heard say Mole.
Awesome make sure to let me know how you like it, I just sold mine last week bc my Rivian got delivered. You are not the first person to call me out on my ridiculous pronunciation of things. Thank you for being kind in your correction 😂😂
5 year lifted jk owned wanted gladiator priced one out bought a new fully loaded 2021 zr2 instead w leather & nav for around 40k insted of 50k w no leather & no nav
I own a 2021 Gladiator Overland and a 2021 Wrangler Altitude/4-Cyl Turbo. Wrangler is better off-road for sure. Gladiator is good off good but better in the highway. Both are over-priced and under-featured vehicles. Not many amenities unless you are spending well over 50 grand.
Great review :) I have a 2021 a buddy of mine bought a 2020 that was still on lot. He drove both mine and his and stated the 21 had better steering. He contacted dealership was told the newer models have a steel steering box. The 20' had aluminum which caused the drifting. Dealership told him bring it in they replaced it with the newer steering box and it drives much better. No it will not handle like a Porsche, but my stock Rubicon with 33's drives just about the same as my last truck a 2016 Tacoma with 33'
For a channel that only has roughly 600 subs, you definitely have one of the best reviews out on the internet. A lot of the other likes/dislikes reviews skip over fine details such as the wheel tightness. Would have never known most of the things you said about the gladiator if it wasn't for you. Thanks, man!
Well, Zach you just won the prize for the nicest comment in this thread. Thank you very much for that. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I will just keep pushing my videos out in the hopes they keep helping ppl because that is what I'm here for.
What are your thoughts on the diesel? Are you excited for it based on your research? Better mileage and more torque seem to be a big win to me and get me excited about it. What are your thoughts?
Spencer I just had a comment that stated the diesel was a fiat 3.0 upgrade. Not very reliable but that was one person's view. My concern with the diesel is the lower towing capacity.
Your fuel mileage will also suffer by the fact your odometer/speedometer is now reading incorrectly due to the larger 37” tires. You should recalibrate your speedometer if you want an accurate mpg rating...
I don’t understand the complaints about MPG. You literally bought an off road vehicle. I have the same year of vehicle but a Tacoma, you’re still getting better MPG than me stock.
I just purchased a 2021 Gladiator Rubicon. It has 33” tires & they said a 1.5” lift kit. I get right around 15-16 MPG. If I put 37” tires I’m assuming I’d get even less.
@Ro Baas I appreciate the input. I ultimately decided on a 3”- 3.5” J-Venture lift, with steer smarts Yeti track bar, fox performance 2.0 shocks. I’ll be doing a regear to 5.13. I really wanted 40” tires since I like the stance of the larger tires but would have to change out axels to Dana 60s which is ridiculously expensive. I went with 37” 12.5 R20 Nitto trail grapplers & 20” fuel stroke wheels, it’s not a top of the line lift but should be good enough way better than Mopar, ride should be decent I’m told. I’m trying to replicate a SEMA build but on a smaller budget Trail Jeeps is going to be doing the work.
@@photoapeal why spend all that money to make it more capable only to put low profile street tires on it? Have you ever seen 20” rims in king of the hammers? 17” would be night and day better, but if it’s for looks ... why not,
and he knew what the gas mileage was before he bought it. I just don't get people going from a sports car to a jeep and then going to complain about the handling. It is a jeep, it is going to drive like a box.
Definitely if you pay for a new diesel off the lot. However, buying a used diesel that is 10 - 15 year's old has those savings. I really want to look at the diesel gladiator in 8 years. 😁
the loose driving is def an eye opener for people who have never driven a jeep. it takes some getting used to, all the mileage,,,people ask but hey, its better than those big pick up trucks....who cares bigger tires, worse mileage they look COOL AS HELL
Looked at one today while getting the oil changed in my paid off 2016 Willys with 18,000 miles on it, it was 57,000 msrp. Lmao. Jeep hs lost their damn minds.
Pure curiosity… why pay the extra $10-$15+ thousand for the Rubi if you don’t drive off-road at all? I mean, you do you, but I’m wondering what made you want to spend the cash.
Great question Brodie, I wanted the ability to do so if I ended up needing it or wanting to go off-road. This one caught my eye as well when I was shopping around so I bought what I liked and wanted. I appreciate the question and you aren't the first person to ask that question so no sweat. I'm an odd bird I guess.
Thank you for this video I appreciate it. I have a 2021 Tacoma pro manual on order coming in April and I was thinking about switching to a gladiator and this is helping me make my decision.
@@mariorios8783 the only way a tacoma would be a good use for me is if i could take the doors and roof off. wranglers hold their value more. u also dont buy a vehicle for their value, they all depreciate.
With 37’s and that screwed up automatic you need to regear to get back into the correct rpm range… probably won’t get back to factory fuel mileage but should get into the 19-22 mpg range
I leased a 16 Trd offroad Tacoma and then an 18 f150. Now I’m in a dilemma to go back to a Tacoma or go w a gladiator. It’s tough to decide. Kinda wanna give the gladiator and try
the fact that the Wrangler and Gladiator have so much character and heritage means a lot when there are so many jellybean SUVs out on the road. My only concern is the steering feel that you mentioned. I know it's due to the solid axle up front but just not sure if I can live with that...
K, I’m doing some research on Jeep Gladiators. Right now I have a 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road with a 2.5inch lift and one barely getting 18mpd with daily driving. Just want to put that out there since you bought a off road vehicle that is made street legal.
@@HaulYT just putting out there that the Toyota 4Runner and Tacoma are garbage when it comes to shifting and towing. Yes they are reliable but everyday use suck. I’ve own a 1983 Buick Regal that shifted better than my 2021 Toyota 4Runner. It’s a very outdated motor and transmission. I just want to address the transmission shifting and the fact the 4Runner is a 5 speed automatic even in 2022.
Which gladiator would you recommend for a guy wanting a second vehicle for just some fun driving and occasional Home Depot mulch loads. No need for serious off roaring but want the looks. Would 35 tires be enough for the off road look without adding a lift ? Is removing doors and top as easy as some of videos make it seem. Thanks
A sport model would cover what you are looking for without a crazy price tag. 35s add a lot of tire to the look for sure. You will need tow ppl to take the back L part of the top off but the doors are simple.
Nice video, now that gets July of 2022 and price at the pump are high and diesel I believe the Fiat motor. Would you still go that route if to buy another.
Poppy thanks for the nice comment and I have recently received my Rivian pre order so I'm fully electric now. I was able to get almost what I paid for the Gladiator based on used vehicle pricing right now. It was a sad day when I sold the Jeep but with the price of gas I couldn't be happier with my all electric truck. If I was going to buy another Jeep I still don't think I would go diesel b/c of the uncertainty with the prices.
At the moment I’m in a ‘13’ Rubicon Jeep 2dr and looking to get a bigger 4 dr or JT. I’ve been driving an owned YJ and TJ Jeep Wrangler’s for over 28 years and would not drive anything else.
I only got to ride in my sisters 2 door all through highschool. The JT definitely drives like a truck b/c of it being longer I assume. I have not ridden in a 4 door enough to have a definitive feel. If you need a bed and love a Jeep I think the JT would be great for you.
That was good review, my wife and I are Looking at a Gladiator to pull behind the RV. For all these haters callin you out for not getting it in the dirt or trail, ignore em...I’ve got an F150 4x4 that has pulled more crap out of hole than most of these Jeep owners have ever hooked on to. We are getting a Jeep because it’s the closest thing you can get to riding a motorcycle without it being a motorcycle. Quit riding 2 years ago after 47 years of riding. My Jeep will rarely see off road unless it is to pull my RV out. So all of the pros out there can...well, you know the rest. Good review my friend, enjoy life
EHHHH thanks a lot for the kind words. I don't take any of it personally. I bought it so I'm going to drive it how and where I wish. No biggie. If you end up getting one let me know your thoughts.
I'm really glad I came across this. I drive a 2011 GTI and one of my concerns is if I could go from a hatchback to a truck and live with it. Looks like I might be able to. :)
Shane as a fellow Converted Hatchbacker I can honestly say I'm really happy. I really needed a truck for what I had to do around my home and I didn't need something full size. This was the perfect option for me b/c of all the reasons I covered. Love it to date.
I think a Wrangler (and the Gladiator) is the Mini of off-roaders. Different, full of compromises yet super fun, puts a smile and is something special. The Gladiator with a longer wheel base has less compromise in ride quality and I don’t think would feel like it would jump across lanes when you hit a bump like the two-door wrangler feels like. I went from a GTI to a Wrangler to a Grand Cherokee for ultimate compromise. But, nowhere near as fun as the TJ/Wrangler.
Nice, easy to watch, to the points review. I've had various new Wranglers up the 16 JK Hard Rock and various Rams up to the 20 Limited. I keep circling the Gladiator and am getting much closer to finally ordering one. It's just trying to get out of the only a Wrangler with more interior room or a Ram with a real size truck bed mode versus the gladiator with smaller interior then Wrangler and smaller bed than Ram. As per the diesel engine, the eco diesel engines haven't done so well in the Ram trucks, many having issues at low miles. Also, the 100k plus 2014-19 Rams with eco diesel engines recalled for coolant leaks/possible fires. So, might be best to still wait a few years out to see how they do in the Gladiator. Thanks again for the well put together review of the Gladiator after having it for a year.
My buying experience was great but I think that really depends on where you buy instead of the model. I did all my communication through email and then just went and picked it up. I don't remember my out the door price but I know it was significantly cheaper b/c I drove to VA to get it, I'm in PA.
@@HaulYT 2 doors? Has 4 Doors. I love those doors. Give Privacy. you open both and are blocked from being seen on all 3 sides. And if you only open up half way. Kind blacks you from behind too. Great if your in need of a quick change or something. Without throwing a up a privacy tenant. Ive learned that it one of my favorite parts. Im having a debate of myself. If I should put an awning in the back. Or one of the sides. All 3 give you a big opening to your car. Just FYI
Can you hear while talking on bluetooth? How comfortable are the seats? I'm looking at the 2021 Diesel. Would you buy the Rubicon again or the Overlander? Thank You'
KW The bluetooth works well with the hardtop but when I put my bestop softop on it is a bit loud for the receiver end. The seats are amazing in the Rubicon. I would buy the Rubicon but I was looking for the rugged look. Either model rides like a truck and not like a Jeep which is great.
Yeah towing by Diesel... it’s down 1,650 lbs from gas version and the diesel only weights a little over 400 LBS additional weight. Pretty disappointed in that. Diesel should pull more not less and especially not 1650 lbs less. It’s because of cooking problems with the engine and Jeep better get it figured out since the diesel upgrade costs $6,000 with the 8sp Trans they make you choose with it. They need to get the engine cooling figured out before I buy a gladiator because if and when I do I want a diesel but I’m holding off because of the max tow decrease. Come on Jeep!
It is hard to find exact figures, but it is only down 1650 if you are comparing the Sport with Max Tow. The Rubi only tows 7k with the gas engine. When they have a Max Tow equivalent package for the diesel, you'll be laughing :)
Wow, i just learned a 4x4 truck uses more gasoline than a Mini Cooper.. WOW !! Thanks for the info. WooooW !!! You must be in shock for finding that.. WooooW..
About the Diesel engine...it is a FIAT sourced 3.0 litre engine and is not very reliable. TFL had a video up today about poor defrost in winter because the vent DOES NOT go the length of the windshield. Have you had this problem?
Mike thanks for the info on the Diesel engine. I haven't had issues with defrost but we had a pretty mild winter last year in PA so I haven't had the truck exposed to super cold temps yet either.
@@HaulYT had to get the TSB done for the steering issue, but aside from that I love it. It’s my first Jeep, top off and doors off there’s nothing like it.
How do you feel about the orange dash board? It's a deal breaker for me! I can't imagine what Jeep was thinking. All they had to do was match the body color!
XS4EYES- I imagine if you wanted to have a non-red dash, you could easily find someone with a firecracker red Sport S who would gladly trade you their stock black dash for your red dash from the rubicon.
Ehh, when it comes to mileage, the stock all wheel drive SUV I’m replacing with a Gladiator gets 14.4 mpg.. Doesn’t matter what I’m doing or when I check, I swear it always seems to be 14.4 mpg. Stop and go around town? 14.4. Highway? 14.4 At this point, anything above 14.4mpg will be fantastic.
@@HaulYT yep! Especially because I sprang for the extra 4K to get the diesel! I didn’t need the rubicon.. All my friends were saying, “get the rubicon! You’ve gotta get the rubicon!” But.. I just couldn’t justify spending $7k more for lockers, a disconnectable sway bar, and a few other bits and bobs that I may never use. I’m still fairly new to off-roading. Always had a love affair with Jeeps, and have owned Jeeps pretty much exclusively, except for a ‘79 duster that was my first car- which I never actually drove -and a ‘95 Dodge Ram 1500 that got me through high school.. The way I look at it is, if I find that my Sport S can’t do the things I want it to, I can do all the extra stuff aftermarket, probably for cheaper.
They did improve the steering box after the first model year. I believe the first one was aluminum and the new one is steel. There is a TSB for it and they'll swap it out at the dealership for free.
You gotta understand that a vehicle thats designed for offroad trails with solid axles and coil linked suspension WILL NOT drive and STEER like ur everyday car. Op is very misinformed and not very familiar with the “offroad rockcrawl” scene.
Meeso I'm def not informed with that scene myself. I understand that an offroad specific truck will handle than anything designed for on-road. There are numerous complaints though based strictly on the steering.
@@jtarman70 Shows hows much u know. Just bcuz fat bought heeps dont make it built by them. What a dumbass. 🤦🏻 Wranglers have their own dedicated r/d teams. Built in different plants.
Don't think the Fiat diesel engines will be up to the standards Americans are used to. If it were a Cummins that would be a different story. The one to get will be the Rubicon with the 6.4 V8.
you need the TSB for the steering box. makes it much better, looking back on all the issues im having just hitting 11k miles ( defective base radios from 2018 wrangler now to gladiator, AC has a mind of it's own, door weld click they will all eventually get, dealer even admitted this, now i havea scary suspension scrape noise over bumps that i just left it at the stealership today. no i wouldn't buy one again. the French aka PSA will soon run FCA so i don't see the quality improving sadly.
resale value yikes quality meh fun factor yipee looks cool it's a special niche vehicle like mini coopers, you either love them or hate 'em no in between
Awesome video ! I have a 2008 BMW 550i which has been super great to me for 4 years with some minor mandatory maintenance but it's time to get something new. I'm looking to get a gladiator so I can haul stuff, put a karting(go kart) in the back, take it off-road and so on.
How is the wind noise with the hard top ? Yes I know it's a jeep but wonder if it's just plain bad for long hauls which I like to do. I was looking at the Mojave.
I don't find it excessive at all. I'm an open windows kind of guy when the weather is nice as well. I have the Bestop Sun Rider for over the driver and passenger and that can get a bit load on the hwy.
I have a Rubicon Gladiator also and the steering is a big disappointment for me also. There is a fix though (and its free for you). There is a technical service bulletin from Jeep that addresses the issue. It is TSB 08-074-20. You can read about it here: www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/new-jt-gladiator-steering-issue-tsb-08-074-20-for-improved-steering-feel.33705/page-105#post-583753 You just have to tell the dealership that you are having issues with excessive play in the wheel. Good luck!
Great review. I am looking at getting one and loved it since they cam out. Not really interested in the diesel version.. Where did you get the hard Tonneau top?
Everything u said was in point i have the sport and the steering is pretty lose but I love my jeep and its my first new car too ...once again I like your review
Great to hear I'm glad I could help. What color did you get? amzn.to/3C2w7Ic is the link to the mats. It looks like they have gone way up in price since I did this review. Happy Trails
I would stay with the rubicon b/c I was able to use the stock shocks with my lift kit. The rugged look was more important to me than the features that comes with the Overland.
How loud is the cabin on the highway? The problem is this thing probably won’t see many updates cuz it’s selling like crap. I’ve been hearing they won’t likely bother with a version 2.0. Maybe that will change after the diesel motor comes out. I think it’s the pricing more than anything though.
That is interesting about the selling of units. The cabin isn't bad with a hard top. The road noise isn't terrible with the hardtop and patriot panels. The Bestop top changes that a bit.
@@HaulYT I drove a "pre fix" Mojave that was TERRIBLE, I drove a 2021 Mojave that tracked better than my 2017 Tacoma w/ 2" lift, and I drove a 2020 Rubicon that had the new steering box, but was still somewhere in the middle. The somewhat overinflated MT tires may have been the culprit there though. Thanks for the informative video!
@@HaulYT Don't feel bad. 17yrs of military service and I still don't get all the acronyms the military throws at me. I'm thinking about financing one of these but don't know if I should my very reliable 01 TJ for this vehicle.
Thanks for posting this, it's very helpful. I didn't see you mention anything regarding reliability. Have you had any issues with it spending time in the shop? Has it had any recalls?
Thank you very much drw1926. I have not had any issues with reliability or recalls at this point. A ton of great ppl have commented on an upgrade that you can get from the dealership that deals with the steering box but I haven't ventured down that road yet to get it replaced. Apparently it makes the steering a lot better.
@@HaulYT I was just about to mention the steering box TSB. I own a 2020 JL Rubicon with the original steering box but I have no steering issues so will leave it as is until it starts, if ever, causing issues.
IMO it’s kind of squirrelly, I’ve had other trucks that drove as good as a car. At highway speeds switching lanes it will kind of take off on you in that direction & I can see how you could over correct. This could be caused somewhat by aggressive tires. Also in high wind situations or a passing semi affects it quite a bit, it’s a brick not aerodynamic. I hear the steering slop can be tightened up by installing a Yeti Steer Smarts track bar. I’m having one installed by the end of May, along with a 3” lift, & 5.13 gears since I installed 37” tires. I was also told that I would eventually have to replace the stock steering box since they are burning up with larger tires.
love itttt this is my dream car. one day! haha have u had any major problems with it? consumer reports gave this truck 5 stars reliability and they actually recommend it, they have it second place just behind the honda truck. wouldnt u be interested in a hybrid gladiator?
Harry, I have not had any major problems with the truck. It has been great so far. This is the first "new" car that I have ever owned and it has been amazing to use the jeep wave program to get free oil changes and tire rotations. My next interest is an electric truck over a hybrid.
Thanks for the kind words. I don't use the adaptive cruise much at all. All my long trips I just used the regular cruise but if you are planning a bunch of highway miles in decent traffic, it could be worth it. It works pretty decent.
Got a 2021 overland high altitude loaded sitting on 20’s and 31 tires been getting 23-25 MPG on the highway and mountain driving and 20 in town was thinking about getting bigger tires but wow you only get 16mpg? For the rubicon ouch
The great thing about making TH-cam videos is your stupidity is captured for the rest of time 😂. Thanks for the clarification, you are not the first and I'm sure won't be the last.
I looked at the TRD 4Runner for a long time. I love the look they have. How are you liking it? They are quite pricey as well. I'm excited to see how the ecodiesel specs out as well.
@@HaulYT Loving it so far. Depending on where you live dealership markup can be a pain unless you negotiate with several dealers. Still in the honeymoon phase so don't have too many negatives aside from the 5-speed which hunts gears a lot.
was it reprogramed cause if not you are doing better millage that you think from stock tires to 35 i read 19.6 displayed but real is 21.08mpg same my speed is 57.79 real is 62.14 so from 35 to 37 you have the same effect to concider. 37 inches correction rate of 1.0571 22.28 mpg real if I read 19.6 as your reel spead is 5.71% higher. sorry for weird rounded numbers i work metric so i transposed. my numbers are from my gladiator 2020 sport not rubicon so your calculation are from stuck tire to any upgrate difference. I know there are other factors wheel weight and effort at axel but you have a 4.01 but for distance, speed and gas milage its all calculated in wheel circonferences by the car ;) even when it reassess on the way it is still thinking you did less distance you actually did
I’m looking to trade in my lifted jk , for something more comfortable one of the big reasons is my jk jerks around a lot and really doesn’t like going over 80, do you get any rattle or shakes at any highway speeds?
Got my jeep gladiator back in December, best truck/ car I ever own. Doors off top off in the summer. Doors off in the fall, first day of a snow storm we going doors off. The ride is like no other and the staring is perfect, people complain about it being loose I live in Jersey with the Roads are unbearable and it's perfect. If you ever hit a pothole at a decent speed your steering wheel start shaking left to right the Jeep handle it like a champ!
Congrats man glad you are enjoying it. What mods have you done so far?
@@HaulYT none so far, just some rail doors for that open air experience and a jeep gladiator rain jacket just in case you got caught in the rain with your top and doors off. For me something you can modify a vehicle to much that it look weird, each it's own .its that old saying, once you go jeep you have to have one! This is definitely an adult toy you can modify you your own personality. I see why they keep their value and age like fine wine.
My wife just purchased a 2021 Jeep Gladiator Overland. Hers came with rubber floor mats - front & back. Also it has a factory brake controller. The steering is also tight. It's definitely not sloppy. It has the stock tires/rims.
Awesome Ollie. It sounds like they fixed some of the minor issues.
@@HaulYT yep, definitely sounds like it.
Actually the Sport with the Max Tow package has the highest towing capacity among the models - not the Overland. Sport Max Tow has a 4:10 gear ratio for better towing. Also, factory trailer brake controller is now FINALLY available. Thanks for the good review.
Thanks so much for the feedback. Great to hear about the trailer braking system
Which model can be ordered with the factory trailer brake controller?
@@dantimber That would be the Gladiator, which now has that option.
@@dantimber it looks like it can be purchased for all models and can be retrofitted to the models the 2020's that are already on the road. States that the part is $299.00 without labor.
The gas for towing is crap. If your towing 5-6k with it, your sitting in high 4-5k RPM going up steep grades which is really bad for any engine, and no ability to accelerate. If you want to tow, get the diesel. Sure its 1k less towing ability, however that is negligible when it comes to what kind of trailer to get. 1k lbs wont make a huge difference on the trailer size. At best you will increase your trailer length by like 1 foot which isn't much.
Great video brother. Not planning on doing any off road so your video really helped. Other videos was making me want to change my mind. Getting mine this weekend!
Thank you very much for this kind comment. I'm glad it was helpful and congratulations 🎉
When Jeep builds a 2 door cab with about 1ft behind the seat, a 392 and a usable bed I’ll definitely buy one.
Great shout
Thanks for this! I test drove an automatic sport a few months back and then I test drove a manual Mojave. The manual Mojave is what I fell in love with. So obviously they are different, I didn’t feel the drift in the 2021 Mojave like I did the 2020 sport S. Could be that it’s a manual as well...but yeah. I look forward to joining the community! I will be leaving a Hyundai Elantra hatchback...so a big difference.
Awesome Terrel. Sorry it took me so long to respond, life has gotten in the way lately. Let me know your thoughts after a few months down the road.
@@HaulYT I completely get it. Thanks for responding!
I just bought the 2021 sport s with auto and max tow!! The steering is great great i guess jeep fixed it for 21. I love the jeep! Just came from the taco and i can tell you hands down buy the jeep no comparison. This i my first Jeep and now i understand why people love them! the Tacoma auto shifting was terrible and felt sluggish i really wanted to like it but when your wife says it feels slow must be a dog!! I took a hit on my 2022 Tacoma 4x4 v6 base with auto. suspension was also very soft.
The jeep did cost me 12k more but so worth it!!
Ok steering is loose, I came from a couple Colorado 4x4’s, that came with rack@pinion steering that was quite tight and precise. But after a couple weeks I don’t feel it so much in my Gladiator. Mileage with my stock 245/75-17, HT, with alloy wheels is 17-23 that’s fine. The UConnect 911 /sos system is fine, 12.3 “ touch screen is great. Towing with out any optional tow or Max to along with low load weight rating of just over 1,000 lbs is fine because the ride is very nice.
Brother there is a service bulletin out for steering. You can get steering gearbox changed. It will tighten it up. Google it or get on gladiator forum.
Thank you for this great info. I'm learning a lot from these comments.
@@HaulYT can you answer this.can u?
@@chriskriaris2671 what is the question
There is a service bulletin out on FIAT in general.....BUYER BEWARE! CHEAP COMPANY, CHEAP PARTS, CHEAP ENGINEERING, CHEAP = CRAP! IF YOU WANT A REAL JEEP....BUY ONE BUILT PRE-FIAT
I would like the option of only a two door with a longer truck bed.
That would look crazy amazing.
Awesome video. You covered a lot, and I like that you actually showed us basically everything you spoke about. Nice to see someone speak normally and calmly, not these gimmicky guys that just sound like salesmen lol
Thank you. This maybe the kindest comment I have gotten yet. I'm def just a normal guy.
Just bought a gladiator Willys and mine came with mats. It's a dealer option. I also got it for 39k, sticker was 53. I'm happy:)
Nice
Thank you for the video. I bought a billet silver Gladiator Rubicon manual last Saturday. Traded a Silverado RST with the 6.2 for it. Very happy with the vehicle. I am impressed by how tight all the parts are fitted. Feels very solid. I needed a manual so much that I was willing to lose a V8 for it. It sometimes takes ownership over a period of time to find out what one really wants.
Congratulations and thanks for the nice comment. I agree with you on the quality of the build. I loved mine while I had it. The cab is a bit smaller than han what you are probably used to but the manual transmission has to be fun
late for the party but speaking about the floor mats, Jeep should of done the bedrug for the carpeting as well... current carpets get moldy with any mud or water, bedrug doesn't.
Agreed. Disappointed with the mats for sure.
Have watched a few people recently do 1 year reviews on their Gladiators. Any of them that don't use them for anything but day in and day out vehicles said they would not buy again. Does not surprise me. It has taken some non Jeep owners by surprise and they love it. Others eh..I use mine as a daily driver and for serious off roading. In the end, a Jeep is a Jeep and you have to want to use it as such to love a Jeep.
Understand that for sure Aaron. I love mine b/c my expectation was that understanding what it is. That is awesome that you take yours on serious off roading. Do you have videos on the trail? What is your favorite feature of the gladiator in the off road situations?
@@HaulYT I don't post videos on TH-cam but yes I have some. Have most of the Jeep Badges from Moab. I frequently visit there. The best feature of any Jeep is the right upgrades you do to the suspension . I like the length at times when it helps me get up an obstacle where a typical Jeep has issues. But that also has it's disadvantages. In the end, I have a Jeep truck and it CAN wheel hard and still do usual truck things.
@@yipeeiaye Awesome response. Moab is real legit well done.
Agreed. The steering is certainly more loose than the Nissan pickup I previously had. The Nissan was very responsive and tight. The gladiator requires much more slight wheel movements to go straight down the road. Other than that, the Gladiator rules. It even gets better fuel economy than my well maintained Nissan V6 did. The Nissan was vanilla...the Gladiator makes a statement.
Totally agree. I enjoy having a vehicle that is unique to what I like. Thanks for the comment and watching
I had a really nice Nissan Pro 4x. 2017. That was the problem. I didn’t want to rough it up. My Gladiator-no problem. It’s what it was made for. You either have a Jeep mentality or not. Ford makes some really nice Broncos. Combination off road vehicle and mini-van. Lots of grocery space. Soccer gear. Etc….
Great review! I have a 2021 Willy's now for about 7 months and it looks like they improved on nearly every one of these "dislikes" Except maybe the passenger side space. I am loving mine!
Awesome. What are the major differences outside of the fixes? Anything major aesthetically?
I like the gladiator so much I got a 2021 mojave. Did not notice any steering issues. I'm going to add new bumpers and add an aftermarket towing set up. I'm fine with the rest of the truck.
Awesome to hear Brian. I have been trying to find if I can purchase the Mojave hood bc I love the scoop
@@HaulYT you should get the mojave the ride is super with those fox shocks.
The one I have came with the fox shocks as well. I kept the shocks even with the new lift.
There's a service bulletin for your steering! Look up Jeep TSB 08-074-20. They replace the aluminum box with a new cast iron box with steel internals. I had it done and it fixed it! No more wandering, dead spot in steering wheel gone. However, if your vehicle is out of warranty you will probably have to pay for it. Don't let them deny you because of lift and tires.
Thank you I'm def going to look into this. Thank you so much for the feedback.
I don’t think any gladiator is out of warranty period yet. Lol.
But the dealers are aholes and give you the run around. I’ve been to 2 dealers and they want me to make appointments to come back so they can test drive and diagnose the issue and make sure my gladiator does have the issue before they even consider ordering the parts. I didn’t have time to go back, so I haven’t had mines done. All the Jeep dealers I’ve been to in California, are all aholes! Out of the whole entire Jeep “family”, I would say the worst of all is the dealerships. Even the crappy vehicles are better than the humans that work at the dealerships.
@@00ninja00 Damn, tsb states they should fix it even if you mention. Call corporate or get on Jeep gladiator forum and contact jeepcares. They have helped get the ball rolling for numerous amount of ppl
I purchased the 2020 jeep Gladiator Rubicon new back in 2019 and it’s been a wild ride for sure with having the aluminum steering box replaced under warranty to a steel steering box that fixed my death wobble steering problem to the dam start stop battery failure draining my main battery causing me to buy two new main batteries only to discover that after I bypass the start stop eliminating the small battery it finally fixed my battery drain to the purchase of a Tazer mini to shut off all of the annoying features like start stop . I would actually buy another jeep Gladiator because it’s been an adventure for sure and a learning curve that once you master the jeep fuckery it’s ok to own one.. 😊
That is quite an adventure. I loved my gladiator when I had it as well.
thx for this review. i was specifically looking for folks who have owned the Glad awhile and how they feel after. having just test drove a 16k mile 2021 Overland, i was pretty smitten, but also noted a lot of the same pitfalls: steering wanders at highway speed, lacks interior cargo space, genuine discomfort compared to the Grand Cherokees (which i have driven 20yrs now), and difficulty getting in and out of the tiny cockpit. i know my 78yo mom could not get in or out safely. Gladiators are hella cool trucks, and capable Jeeps once off road. but i don't know if i NEED it as much as i WANT it. one thing i have not heard anyone speak to is snow traction. have you had any chance to test that? also wondering how - if traveling with a dog - how they like it and whether they can get in or out. i currently lift my pup into the Grand Cherokee anyway, but she gets down on her own. Not sure she could get down out of this.
Thanks so much for the comment and view. I have drove the Jeep through 10" snow with no issues, a lot of the traction is around the tires vs the truck. I agree with a lot of your points around interior space and getting in and out. I have had my Bernese mtn dog in and out but he struggles in the back seat bc the width of the seat isn't as wide as a normal backseat. It is a head turner and great for short runs but if you are looking for comfort and practicality then I would look other places
Great video! I personally would steer clear of the diesel because they take a lot more work and heavily regulated. Gas is a lot more straightforward.
Thank you Myles. Thanks for your insight into the diesel version as well.
So there is a diesel version ?
I live in Europe and gas is expansive.
I love gas and V8 but with this heavy machine a diesel is more economic and has more torque for sure.
I had a Landrover Defender V8 his only problem was the fuel consumption.
But i really loved the sound.
@@SirGeldi there sure is a diesel I don't know the availability in Europe though
@General Melchett Good shout on the diesel. That hasn't happened in the US but I guess it could be possible in the future but I would be surprised. Lot's of diesel pride over here.
@General Melchett Yea that is pretty crazy. I guess we will see.
Very helpful. Thank you. I am really wanting to buy a gladiator. I had a Jeep when I was a kid (1974 CJ5) and it was my favorite vehicle I've ever owned. I did a lot of off-roading with it, but I probably will not be doing any more hard-core stuff with with gladiator. Light off-roading for camping, etc. Your review was really helpful. (p.s., "molle is pronounced "molly". I had a bit of trouble figuring out what you were describing... lol)
Thank you for watching and the nice comment. I have gotten the Molle comment quite a bit and deep down I knew that but couldn't get it out of my head. hahaha. Keep me posted if you end up getting one.
Great video. I'm getting a Jeep Gladiator on Friday. BTW MOLLE is pronounced Molly. 27 years in the Army and you are the first person I have ever heard say Mole.
Awesome make sure to let me know how you like it, I just sold mine last week bc my Rivian got delivered. You are not the first person to call me out on my ridiculous pronunciation of things. Thank you for being kind in your correction 😂😂
5 year lifted jk owned wanted gladiator priced one out bought a new fully loaded 2021 zr2 instead w leather & nav for around 40k insted of 50k w no leather & no nav
They are pricey for sure Brett
I own a 2021 Gladiator Overland and a 2021 Wrangler Altitude/4-Cyl Turbo. Wrangler is better off-road for sure. Gladiator is good off good but better in the highway. Both are over-priced and under-featured vehicles. Not many amenities unless you are spending well over 50 grand.
Great insight Steven. I agree with you that the Gladiator is decent on the hwy.
exactly. Jeep overcharges.
Great review :) I have a 2021 a buddy of mine bought a 2020 that was still on lot. He drove both mine and his and stated the 21 had better steering. He contacted dealership was told the newer models have a steel steering box. The 20' had aluminum which caused the drifting. Dealership told him bring it in they replaced it with the newer steering box and it drives much better.
No it will not handle like a Porsche, but my stock Rubicon with 33's drives just about the same as my last truck a 2016 Tacoma with 33'
Thanks for the feedback and a Jeep wave to you and your buddy
For a channel that only has roughly 600 subs, you definitely have one of the best reviews out on the internet. A lot of the other likes/dislikes reviews skip over fine details such as the wheel tightness. Would have never known most of the things you said about the gladiator if it wasn't for you. Thanks, man!
Well, Zach you just won the prize for the nicest comment in this thread. Thank you very much for that. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I will just keep pushing my videos out in the hopes they keep helping ppl because that is what I'm here for.
@@HaulYT With that motivation I see you getting very far. Keep it up, man. You make boring old youtube fun again. :)
@@zachdavis9827 Thanks again.
What are your thoughts on the diesel? Are you excited for it based on your research? Better mileage and more torque seem to be a big win to me and get me excited about it. What are your thoughts?
Spencer I just had a comment that stated the diesel was a fiat 3.0 upgrade. Not very reliable but that was one person's view. My concern with the diesel is the lower towing capacity.
Yes, the diesel they are going to use is the eco diesel motor commonly found in Ram’s trucks. It’s actually won a few awards.
@@spencerdavidson5643 Oh wow I didn't realize. I will have to dig into some of that info.
Bought my Sport S Gladi at nearly 11% below invoice last June. Ill drive it until its undrivable.
Awesome Dooster. They are great.
Remember the steering will always feel like that because the solid axle at front
Thanks boss
Your fuel mileage will also suffer by the fact your odometer/speedometer is now reading incorrectly due to the larger 37” tires. You should recalibrate your speedometer if you want an accurate mpg rating...
Very true. I have noticed that a lot on the highway.
I don’t understand the complaints about MPG. You literally bought an off road vehicle. I have the same year of vehicle but a Tacoma, you’re still getting better MPG than me stock.
It was just a note. I know what I got into. Not a complaint
Yeah my 19’ trd pro 6 speed manual was worse on stock tires. My Gladiator is on 33’s and I get 2mpg better consistently
I just purchased a 2021 Gladiator Rubicon. It has 33” tires & they said a 1.5” lift kit. I get right around 15-16 MPG. If I put 37” tires I’m assuming I’d get even less.
@Ro Baas I appreciate the input. I ultimately decided on a 3”- 3.5” J-Venture lift, with steer smarts Yeti track bar, fox performance 2.0 shocks. I’ll be doing a regear to 5.13. I really wanted 40” tires since I like the stance of the larger tires but would have to change out axels to Dana 60s which is ridiculously expensive. I went with 37” 12.5 R20 Nitto trail grapplers & 20” fuel stroke wheels, it’s not a top of the line lift but should be good enough way better than Mopar, ride should be decent I’m told. I’m trying to replicate a SEMA build but on a smaller budget Trail Jeeps is going to be doing the work.
@@photoapeal why spend all that money to make it more capable only to put low profile street tires on it? Have you ever seen 20” rims in king of the hammers? 17” would be night and day better, but if it’s for looks ... why not,
Your Jeep didn’t come with rubber mats because you didn’t get that option, not because it’s not offered
Fair comment. I should have stated I wish they were standard
But every Jeep should come standard with rubber Mats
@@mygangstaguitar15 ya hes right ya
and he knew what the gas mileage was before he bought it. I just don't get people going from a sports car to a jeep and then going to complain about the handling. It is a jeep, it is going to drive like a box.
@@TheSpirobulldog I wouldn't say it was a complaint just making a point. My apologies for upsetting you though
The premium you pay for buying and owning a diesel far outstrips any savings you may imagine over the long term. IMHO
hmm interesting. The experiences I have had with diesel in the past were consistent and good.
Definitely if you pay for a new diesel off the lot. However, buying a used diesel that is 10 - 15 year's old has those savings. I really want to look at the diesel gladiator in 8 years. 😁
@@katiedavis9683 You will still pay a premium for a diesel over a gas engine at any age. Cool to have but..........
the loose driving is def an eye opener for people who have never driven a jeep. it takes some getting used to, all the mileage,,,people ask but hey, its better than those big pick up trucks....who cares bigger tires, worse mileage they look COOL AS HELL
Yea it did take a bit especially coming from my Mini 🤣🤣. They totally look badass though
Looked at one today while getting the oil changed in my paid off 2016 Willys with 18,000 miles on it, it was 57,000 msrp. Lmao. Jeep hs lost their damn minds.
I hear ya Chris
@Jon Smithe hahaha very true
Great review I have a 2022 Gladiator and really like it and I have no steering issues.
Thank you and that is great
I bought a 21' Rubicon and it comes with only 3 free oil changes which is kind of a joke considering the price you pay for these.
Agreed. Mine was 5 but they have an expiration of this summer. Major bummer.
What’s your opinion after four years? Great video!
@@Hoytbuff thanks. I don't have the gladiator anymore but that is bc I got a rivian. I loved the jeep just went full electric
I turned it off when he says, "I haven't taken it off-road."
After an entire year?!
Go buy a sedan Susan!
Thanks for the feedback Michael. My analytics are making more sense now 🤣. Don't call me Shirley, Shirley.
yeah i was done after he said I havent taken it off road... and then when I put it on the 37's i got way less MPG's
@@KYLgannon I hear ya. The MPG was just a statement and the off road is based on priorities. Thanks for your comments though
Pure curiosity… why pay the extra $10-$15+ thousand for the Rubi if you don’t drive off-road at all? I mean, you do you, but I’m wondering what made you want to spend the cash.
Great question Brodie, I wanted the ability to do so if I ended up needing it or wanting to go off-road. This one caught my eye as well when I was shopping around so I bought what I liked and wanted. I appreciate the question and you aren't the first person to ask that question so no sweat. I'm an odd bird I guess.
Thank you for this video I appreciate it.
I have a 2021 Tacoma pro manual on order coming in April and I was thinking about switching to a gladiator and this is helping me make my decision.
Thank you for the nice comment
Tacoma trd pros in manual are Super rare and ridiculously reliable they also hold their value. I would go for the Trd Pro
@@mariorios8783 the only way a tacoma would be a good use for me is if i could take the doors and roof off. wranglers hold their value more. u also dont buy a vehicle for their value, they all depreciate.
With 37’s and that screwed up automatic you need to regear to get back into the correct rpm range… probably won’t get back to factory fuel mileage but should get into the 19-22 mpg range
Oliver thanks for the insight. Great idea and thanks for the tip.
I leased a 16 Trd offroad Tacoma and then an 18 f150. Now I’m in a dilemma to go back to a Tacoma or go w a gladiator. It’s tough to decide. Kinda wanna give the gladiator and try
Both great buys which hold their value
the fact that the Wrangler and Gladiator have so much character and heritage means a lot when there are so many jellybean SUVs out on the road. My only concern is the steering feel that you mentioned. I know it's due to the solid axle up front but just not sure if I can live with that...
I hear ya ST. The later models have the upgraded steering box and you can get the 2020 upgraded through Jeep so it shouldn't be a problem.
K, I’m doing some research on Jeep Gladiators. Right now I have a 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road with a 2.5inch lift and one barely getting 18mpd with daily driving. Just want to put that out there since you bought a off road vehicle that is made street legal.
I guess thanks for the comment Michael. I'm not sure what feedback you are looking for. I do love the TRD line up though. Good stuff
@@HaulYT just putting out there that the Toyota 4Runner and Tacoma are garbage when it comes to shifting and towing. Yes they are reliable but everyday use suck. I’ve own a 1983 Buick Regal that shifted better than my 2021 Toyota 4Runner. It’s a very outdated motor and transmission. I just want to address the transmission shifting and the fact the 4Runner is a 5 speed automatic even in 2022.
@@mikeysais1980 Got ya. Love the Regal, smooth
The ZF 8-speed in Jeeps and Rams is regarded as one of the best automatic transmissions made today.
Which gladiator would you recommend for a guy wanting a second vehicle for just some fun driving and occasional Home Depot mulch loads. No need for serious off roaring but want the looks. Would 35 tires be enough for the off road look without adding a lift ? Is removing doors and top as easy as some of videos make it seem. Thanks
A sport model would cover what you are looking for without a crazy price tag. 35s add a lot of tire to the look for sure. You will need tow ppl to take the back L part of the top off but the doors are simple.
Nice video, now that gets July of 2022 and price at the pump are high and diesel I believe the Fiat motor. Would you still go that route if to buy another.
Poppy thanks for the nice comment and I have recently received my Rivian pre order so I'm fully electric now. I was able to get almost what I paid for the Gladiator based on used vehicle pricing right now. It was a sad day when I sold the Jeep but with the price of gas I couldn't be happier with my all electric truck. If I was going to buy another Jeep I still don't think I would go diesel b/c of the uncertainty with the prices.
At the moment I’m in a ‘13’ Rubicon Jeep 2dr and looking to get a bigger 4 dr or JT. I’ve been driving an owned YJ and TJ Jeep Wrangler’s for over 28 years and would not drive anything else.
I only got to ride in my sisters 2 door all through highschool. The JT definitely drives like a truck b/c of it being longer I assume. I have not ridden in a 4 door enough to have a definitive feel. If you need a bed and love a Jeep I think the JT would be great for you.
That was good review, my wife and I are
Looking at a Gladiator to pull behind the RV. For all these haters callin you out for not getting it in the dirt or trail, ignore em...I’ve got an F150 4x4 that has pulled more crap out of hole than most of these Jeep owners have ever hooked on to. We are getting a Jeep because it’s the closest thing you can get to riding a motorcycle without it being a motorcycle. Quit riding 2 years ago after 47 years of riding. My Jeep will rarely see off road unless it is to pull my RV out. So all of the pros out there can...well, you know the rest. Good review my friend, enjoy life
EHHHH thanks a lot for the kind words. I don't take any of it personally. I bought it so I'm going to drive it how and where I wish. No biggie. If you end up getting one let me know your thoughts.
I'm really glad I came across this. I drive a 2011 GTI and one of my concerns is if I could go from a hatchback to a truck and live with it. Looks like I might be able to. :)
Shane as a fellow Converted Hatchbacker I can honestly say I'm really happy. I really needed a truck for what I had to do around my home and I didn't need something full size. This was the perfect option for me b/c of all the reasons I covered. Love it to date.
I sold my 2017 GTI to buy my 2020 Rubicon. Really liked the couple GTI’s I owned. This is my 5th Wrangler. Also owned a MINI JCW
@@Wrangzilla awesome. I loved my mini as well but do really enjoy having a truck
Don’t buy a Jeep.
I think a Wrangler (and the Gladiator) is the Mini of off-roaders. Different, full of compromises yet super fun, puts a smile and is something special. The Gladiator with a longer wheel base has less compromise in ride quality and I don’t think would feel like it would jump across lanes when you hit a bump like the two-door wrangler feels like. I went from a GTI to a Wrangler to a Grand Cherokee for ultimate compromise. But, nowhere near as fun as the TJ/Wrangler.
Nice, easy to watch, to the points review. I've had various new Wranglers up the 16 JK Hard Rock and various Rams up to the 20 Limited. I keep circling the Gladiator and am getting much closer to finally ordering one. It's just trying to get out of the only a Wrangler with more interior room or a Ram with a real size truck bed mode versus the gladiator with smaller interior then Wrangler and smaller bed than Ram.
As per the diesel engine, the eco diesel engines haven't done so well in the Ram trucks, many having issues at low miles. Also, the 100k plus 2014-19 Rams with eco diesel engines recalled for coolant leaks/possible fires.
So, might be best to still wait a few years out to see how they do in the Gladiator. Thanks again for the well put together review of the Gladiator after having it for a year.
Yea Dean that is tough. It does good job at combining the truck life with jeep life but it has disadvantages for each group.
How was your buying experience and what did you end up paying out the door. Looking to buy a 2022.
My buying experience was great but I think that really depends on where you buy instead of the model. I did all my communication through email and then just went and picked it up. I don't remember my out the door price but I know it was significantly cheaper b/c I drove to VA to get it, I'm in PA.
Please make a video on your experience with Rivian
They're not doing so hot.
I have done about 30 videos of my Rivian and I love it
I almost bought the Gladiator. Happy I bought an FJ Cruiser instead! LOVE FJ!!!
Prophet that is awesome. I'm a fan of the FJ Cruiser I just don't like that it is only 2 door.
@@HaulYT 2 doors? Has 4 Doors. I love those doors. Give Privacy. you open both and are blocked from being seen on all 3 sides. And if you only open up half way. Kind blacks you from behind too. Great if your in need of a quick change or something. Without throwing a up a privacy tenant. Ive learned that it one of my favorite parts. Im having a debate of myself. If I should put an awning in the back. Or one of the sides. All 3 give you a big opening to your car. Just FYI
Can you hear while talking on bluetooth? How comfortable are the seats? I'm looking at the 2021 Diesel. Would you buy the Rubicon again or the Overlander? Thank You'
KW The bluetooth works well with the hardtop but when I put my bestop softop on it is a bit loud for the receiver end. The seats are amazing in the Rubicon. I would buy the Rubicon but I was looking for the rugged look. Either model rides like a truck and not like a Jeep which is great.
@@HaulYT Thank You Haul Daat
Love my gladiator, don’t care about the low fuel mileage. Most versatile and unique vehicle on the road.
Love mine as well Mark. Great to hear you are loving yours.
Thanks for the review.
It helped in my choosing the vehicle.
Awesome man thanks. Glad I could help
Yeah towing by Diesel... it’s down 1,650 lbs from gas version and the diesel only weights a little over 400 LBS additional weight. Pretty disappointed in that. Diesel should pull more not less and especially not 1650 lbs less. It’s because of cooking problems with the engine and Jeep better get it figured out since the diesel upgrade costs $6,000 with the 8sp Trans they make you choose with it. They need to get the engine cooling figured out before I buy a gladiator because if and when I do I want a diesel but I’m holding off because of the max tow decrease. Come on Jeep!
Agreed to it all brother
It is hard to find exact figures, but it is only down 1650 if you are comparing the Sport with Max Tow. The Rubi only tows 7k with the gas engine.
When they have a Max Tow equivalent package for the diesel, you'll be laughing :)
Wow, i just learned a 4x4 truck uses more gasoline than a Mini Cooper.. WOW !! Thanks for the info. WooooW !!! You must be in shock for finding that.. WooooW..
Your sarcasm is deafening, hahaha. Thanks for watching and for the comment WOW!
@@HaulYT Because i love my Jeep. You cannot OutElvis, Elvis... And no other truck can OutJeep, A Jeep. They are unique trucks.
@@outwiththem facts and great analogy
About the Diesel engine...it is a FIAT sourced 3.0 litre engine and is not very reliable. TFL had a video up today about poor defrost in winter because the vent DOES NOT go the length of the windshield. Have you had this problem?
Mike thanks for the info on the Diesel engine. I haven't had issues with defrost but we had a pretty mild winter last year in PA so I haven't had the truck exposed to super cold temps yet either.
33s and 4.10 gears arent made for millage. Big reason I went with the Wil·is, Im never gonna need to use lockers but I will use a limited slip.
Very True Jake.
Me too ! How do you like it ?
My Gladiator came with the rubber mats, it’s a sport S. I’m really surprised your rubicon didn’t. You’d think it would have that.
Yea exactly I was pretty annoyed. How are you liking your gladiator?
@@HaulYT had to get the TSB done for the steering issue, but aside from that I love it. It’s my first Jeep, top off and doors off there’s nothing like it.
@@BamaPewPew Yea I have to go down the TSB road as well. This is my first Jeep as well and I'm enjoying it a lot. Happy Trails.
Buys a Rubicon and has not even taken it off road. Was the sticker worth the 6k premium? Why not just get a sport?
Thanks for watching Miguel. You are about the 10th person with this comment, it was worth it for me for sure.
How do you feel about the orange dash board? It's a deal breaker for me! I can't imagine what Jeep was thinking. All they had to do was match the body color!
Mine is red not orange and I love red so I'm happy.
XS4EYES- I imagine if you wanted to have a non-red dash, you could easily find someone with a firecracker red Sport S who would gladly trade you their stock black dash for your red dash from the rubicon.
okay... This video is the best for me personally, I am moving from a 2013 Mini Clubman S... pretty interested in going to a Jeep Gladiator now. lol
Hahaha awesome Justin. Glad I could help
Ehh, when it comes to mileage, the stock all wheel drive SUV I’m replacing with a Gladiator gets 14.4 mpg.. Doesn’t matter what I’m doing or when I check, I swear it always seems to be 14.4 mpg. Stop and go around town? 14.4. Highway? 14.4
At this point, anything above 14.4mpg will be fantastic.
Haha oh geez well then you def will get better with a stock gladiator.
@@HaulYT yep! Especially because I sprang for the extra 4K to get the diesel! I didn’t need the rubicon.. All my friends were saying, “get the rubicon! You’ve gotta get the rubicon!” But.. I just couldn’t justify spending $7k more for lockers, a disconnectable sway bar, and a few other bits and bobs that I may never use. I’m still fairly new to off-roading. Always had a love affair with Jeeps, and have owned Jeeps pretty much exclusively, except for a ‘79 duster that was my first car- which I never actually drove -and a ‘95 Dodge Ram 1500 that got me through high school.. The way I look at it is, if I find that my Sport S can’t do the things I want it to, I can do all the extra stuff aftermarket, probably for cheaper.
I don’t know if they improved the steering in 2021, but mine has very tight steering compared to my wife’s 2019 highlander.
Thanks for the update, Buck. I'm not sure either but the steering certainly has been commented on a lot for this video.
They did improve the steering box after the first model year. I believe the first one was aluminum and the new one is steel. There is a TSB for it and they'll swap it out at the dealership for free.
@@jonvanhamlin1477 Thanks for the comment.
Where did you get those mats? Are they Mopar? $60???
Everything I’m looking at is over$120
Yea on Amazon they went up since I bought them. Sorry boss
You gotta understand that a vehicle thats designed for offroad trails with solid axles and coil linked suspension WILL NOT drive and STEER like ur everyday car. Op is very misinformed and not very familiar with the “offroad rockcrawl” scene.
Meeso I'm def not informed with that scene myself. I understand that an offroad specific truck will handle than anything designed for on-road. There are numerous complaints though based strictly on the steering.
I'm shocked they drive or move at all considering they are built by the TRASH company FIAT
@@jtarman70
Shows hows much u know. Just bcuz fat bought heeps dont make it built by them. What a dumbass. 🤦🏻 Wranglers have their own dedicated r/d teams. Built in different plants.
Don't think the Fiat diesel engines will be up to the standards Americans are used to. If it were a Cummins that would be a different story. The one to get will be the Rubicon with the 6.4 V8.
Ronster I'm getting that comment a lot about the diesel engine. The V8 will be beast
you need the TSB for the steering box. makes it much better, looking back on all the issues im having just hitting 11k miles ( defective base radios from 2018 wrangler now to gladiator, AC has a mind of it's own, door weld click they will all eventually get, dealer even admitted this, now i havea scary suspension scrape noise over bumps that i just left it at the stealership today. no i wouldn't buy one again. the French aka PSA will soon run FCA so i don't see the quality improving sadly.
I'm so sorry to hear about your issues. I will keep an eye out for that kind of stuff on my end. Thanks for the heads up.
resale value yikes
quality meh
fun factor yipee
looks cool
it's a special niche vehicle like mini coopers, you either love them or hate 'em no in between
Agreed. Thanks for the feedback
Awesome video ! I have a 2008 BMW 550i which has been super great to me for 4 years with some minor mandatory maintenance but it's time to get something new. I'm looking to get a gladiator so I can haul stuff, put a karting(go kart) in the back, take it off-road and so on.
Awesome we come from similar backgrounds. I love mine and love what I can do in it and with it
How is the wind noise with the hard top ? Yes I know it's a jeep but wonder if it's just plain bad for long hauls which I like to do.
I was looking at the Mojave.
I don't find it excessive at all. I'm an open windows kind of guy when the weather is nice as well. I have the Bestop Sun Rider for over the driver and passenger and that can get a bit load on the hwy.
@@HaulYT
Thank you
I have a Rubicon Gladiator also and the steering is a big disappointment for me also. There is a fix though (and its free for you). There is a technical service bulletin from Jeep that addresses the issue. It is TSB 08-074-20. You can read about it here: www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/new-jt-gladiator-steering-issue-tsb-08-074-20-for-improved-steering-feel.33705/page-105#post-583753 You just have to tell the dealership that you are having issues with excessive play in the wheel. Good luck!
Thank you for the feedback. I will check that out.
Great review. I am looking at getting one and loved it since they cam out. Not really interested in the diesel version.. Where did you get the hard Tonneau top?
Thank you man. I love mine. I got my cover from diamond back and I did a review on that as well
Thx for this informative review. You review helps me make up my mind in getting this for my wife💪🏽💯
Awesome. Thanks for watching and the nice comments
Everything u said was in point i have the sport and the steering is pretty lose but I love my jeep and its my first new car too ...once again I like your review
Thank you so much for the nice comments. Keep me posted on ur mods
Great review! Thinking about going from a Honda Civic to the Gladiator or a Bronco. I’ll definitely take these points as a make my decision.
Thank you for the kind words. Let me know what you think of the Bronco after your test drive. They are cool looking machines as well.
I had Honda n I went n bought a Jeep gladiator. Great Jeep
Great video - From a normal guy and not to fancy.
Thank you. Best compliment yet.
Nice review, but just an FYI, the Overland does come with the brake towing setup.
Thank you and thanks for the insight.
Watched your review before buying our Gladiator - great review. Do you still have the link to the floor mats? Looking for something similar!
Great to hear I'm glad I could help. What color did you get? amzn.to/3C2w7Ic is the link to the mats. It looks like they have gone way up in price since I did this review. Happy Trails
Now that the diesel has come out, would you buy another one?
I would not especially with the gas computer heists.
If you were to chose again would you purchase the less expensive but nicely equipped overland model over the Rubricon?
I would stay with the rubicon b/c I was able to use the stock shocks with my lift kit. The rugged look was more important to me than the features that comes with the Overland.
How loud is the cabin on the highway?
The problem is this thing probably won’t see many updates cuz it’s selling like crap. I’ve been hearing they won’t likely bother with a version 2.0. Maybe that will change after the diesel motor comes out. I think it’s the pricing more than anything though.
That is interesting about the selling of units. The cabin isn't bad with a hard top. The road noise isn't terrible with the hardtop and patriot panels. The Bestop top changes that a bit.
Has your biggest complaint, about the steering, changed now that Jeep issued a TSB for the steering box?
I haven't had it fixed, I just live with it. I have heard that the fix is excellent and free as well.
@@HaulYT I drove a "pre fix" Mojave that was TERRIBLE, I drove a 2021 Mojave that tracked better than my 2017 Tacoma w/ 2" lift, and I drove a 2020 Rubicon that had the new steering box, but was still somewhere in the middle. The somewhat overinflated MT tires may have been the culprit there though. Thanks for the informative video!
Thanks for that feedback.
MOLLE is pronounced “MOL-LIE”… you are killing me 😂
-Purple Heart Combat Veteran
I have been told multiple times. I actually knew this but for some reason was an idiot. Thanks though
@@HaulYT Don't feel bad. 17yrs of military service and I still don't get all the acronyms the military throws at me. I'm thinking about financing one of these but don't know if I should my very reliable 01 TJ for this vehicle.
@@jeromeshockley9572 haha thanks for the encouragement. It is a Jeep so if you are already hooked I think you will love it. Def more room than you TJ
Thx for this I'm looking at a 2022 not sure on gas or diesel. Appreciate the review!
Appreciate you watching and the nice comment
Thanks for posting this, it's very helpful. I didn't see you mention anything regarding reliability. Have you had any issues with it spending time in the shop? Has it had any recalls?
Thank you very much drw1926. I have not had any issues with reliability or recalls at this point. A ton of great ppl have commented on an upgrade that you can get from the dealership that deals with the steering box but I haven't ventured down that road yet to get it replaced. Apparently it makes the steering a lot better.
@@HaulYT great, thanks for the feedback. That's good to hear it didn't spend any time in the shop. And no recalls is great for an all-new model.
@@HaulYT I was just about to mention the steering box TSB. I own a 2020 JL Rubicon with the original steering box but I have no steering issues so will leave it as is until it starts, if ever, causing issues.
@@ericparisien3051 thanks for the insight Eric. I'm not having issues either just more loose than what I'm used too.
I head that the desiel one is super heavy an the the 6 cylinder pull pritey good but terrible on fuel
I'm not sure about that but they would be pretty awesome in diesel
What do you mean by loose steering? Would this make it common for a new driver to overcompensate when steering?
Olivia I don't believe that would happen. I mean loose steering compared to a car. It drives like a truck.
IMO it’s kind of squirrelly, I’ve had other trucks that drove as good as a car. At highway speeds switching lanes it will kind of take off on you in that direction & I can see how you could over correct. This could be caused somewhat by aggressive tires. Also in high wind situations or a passing semi affects it quite a bit, it’s a brick not aerodynamic. I hear the steering slop can be tightened up by installing a Yeti Steer Smarts track bar. I’m having one installed by the end of May, along with a 3” lift, & 5.13 gears since I installed 37” tires. I was also told that I would eventually have to replace the stock steering box since they are burning up with larger tires.
love itttt this is my dream car. one day! haha have u had any major problems with it? consumer reports gave this truck 5 stars reliability and they actually recommend it, they have it second place just behind the honda truck. wouldnt u be interested in a hybrid gladiator?
Harry, I have not had any major problems with the truck. It has been great so far. This is the first "new" car that I have ever owned and it has been amazing to use the jeep wave program to get free oil changes and tire rotations. My next interest is an electric truck over a hybrid.
So the vehicle is a fashion accessory?
Plus everyday driver, plus landscaper, plus trailer hauler, plus toy, plus grocery getter, plus all the normal items.
How much do you use the Adaptive Cruise Control? And do you think it was worth the cost? Like the video by the way, well done.
Thanks for the kind words. I don't use the adaptive cruise much at all. All my long trips I just used the regular cruise but if you are planning a bunch of highway miles in decent traffic, it could be worth it. It works pretty decent.
Got a 2021 overland high altitude loaded sitting on 20’s and 31 tires been getting 23-25 MPG on the highway and mountain driving and 20 in town was thinking about getting bigger tires but wow you only get 16mpg? For the rubicon ouch
It def dipped with the bigger tires, but I still wouldn't have changed my decision. What major differences are there with the high altitude model?
Brother…the MOLLE system straps on the seat backs… are pronounced “Molly” not “mole.” Thanks for making this review video. 👍🏻
The great thing about making TH-cam videos is your stupidity is captured for the rest of time 😂. Thanks for the clarification, you are not the first and I'm sure won't be the last.
I'm obsessed with the gladiator but ended up with a trd pro 4runner. Waiting for the new ecodiesel to prove itself then may switch :)
I looked at the TRD 4Runner for a long time. I love the look they have. How are you liking it? They are quite pricey as well. I'm excited to see how the ecodiesel specs out as well.
@@HaulYT Loving it so far. Depending on where you live dealership markup can be a pain unless you negotiate with several dealers.
Still in the honeymoon phase so don't have too many negatives aside from the 5-speed which hunts gears a lot.
@@himboslice_ awesome to hear.
@@HaulYT so am i thanks bruuuh
was it reprogramed cause if not you are doing better millage that you think from stock tires to 35 i read 19.6 displayed but real is 21.08mpg same my speed is 57.79 real is 62.14 so from 35 to 37 you have the same effect to concider. 37 inches correction rate of 1.0571 22.28 mpg real if I read 19.6 as your reel spead is 5.71% higher. sorry for weird rounded numbers i work metric so i transposed. my numbers are from my gladiator 2020 sport not rubicon so your calculation are from stuck tire to any upgrate difference. I know there are other factors wheel weight and effort at axel but you have a 4.01 but for distance, speed and gas milage its all calculated in wheel circonferences by the car ;) even when it reassess on the way it is still thinking you did less distance you actually did
Yea you may be right. I'm not sure
I’m looking to trade in my lifted jk , for something more comfortable one of the big reasons is my jk jerks around a lot and really doesn’t like going over 80, do you get any rattle or shakes at any highway speeds?
Nothing at hwy speeds Thomas. It truly rides like a truck. The long stance allows for a smoother ride than the JK's.