Some of you need to stop being rude, this mans craft and knowledge is amazing, so at ease your mouth already! Have you smart asses ever been to a reservations, powwow, do you know how many tribes and nations there were on this continent, did you know which ones were advanced and which once were primitive? Did you know some tribes smelted copper point's? Have you even studied aboriginal nations? Stop being rude and have some honor and integrity! One Love First Nations
How did they do it back in the day? I've been sticking the point in the ground and flaking it almost like how one would take prisma blades off of a prisma core. Makes nice flutes, just dont know if it's how they did it back 13000 years ago. This jig setup looks very interesting, brilliant technology for this form of flaking. Enjoyed watching
Jim, I have been watching all your knapping videos and can't stop watching. It is both mesmerizing and inspiring to see someone so thoroughly engaged with their craft, and it shows in the excellence of your work. Thanks for the videos and best wishes!
If this guy didn't use a potato to film this content would be so worth sharing. Edit: Just to be clear here, in 2007 the XL2 was a standard for prosumer usage, that's native 1080p digital. And it had been out for a fair bit too. The XL1 was about one tenth the price and shot native 720p with high fidelity on board audio with XLR outputs. And somehow this is iPhone 2 quality. :(
Jim, great video as always. I'm partway through your cores and blades series and I wondered: have you ever attempted using the compound jig on a blade core? I can see where it could give really good control of the pressure and angle of attack on a core. But maybe there are problems with using the jig for blades that I'm not seeing without actually going through the process. Again, just wondered if you had ever thought to try it. Thanks!
Hello, yes I did give that a try. The biggest problem is that the uprights are in the way, although it works for smaller cores. I could modify the jig a bit but never did. Good idea though, thanks....jim
It has been a long time since I was there, but this stone occurs around 3 or 4 miles north of Ash Fork, Arizona and extends for several miles, lots of stone free for the taking!
dam your good my grand father found a 23" biaface clovis cermonial stone thought tobe a sword from the experts ive shown it to. thinking about putting it up 4 sale '
Thanks for your efforts in the video and developing the machinery. However, how did the ancients make them? That’s what many of us I believe are interested in finding out.
@Tubeaceous Its cheating plain and simple! But it does tach modern knappers how to set up the nipple and coutours prior to fluting. I have some other videos showing how to do it the abo way with percussion also....
Well , I made a jig and fluted my first clovis,the flute went right to the end on a 2" point,I took it in the house and showed my wife,all three pieces........ooops/..//./
Hey Jim, I've been trying to make a clovis point. I've made about 4 preforms and the nipples are appropriate for fluting. The contours are nice and round, but I have one question. When I'm fluting on a jig, how far up in the nipple should I place the lever? All the way? Halfway?
Zack Hansen A lot depends on how the nipple mates with the copper lever, a good flat mating is best. If the lever is placed too shallow and not far enough back on the nipple the flute can sometimes start prematurely and run too shallow. Often times part of the nipple will remain on the preform. I prefer to have the copper lever at the back of the nipple, but be careful not to go behind the nipple because the follow thru of the lever can split the preform down the middle. Hope this helps.....:)
What next ? Why not let a computer make the arrowheads! You are straying too far from the enjoyment of making the arrowheads like the ancients did! Jigs are nice, cool idea, but come on , really, do we need more automation ? Just sayin'
triumphmanful , if an Indian was a good enough carpenter, to make a precise controlling jig, would he not? But yeah, as soon as fucking robots start knapping, what a grim world.
Some of you need to stop being rude, this mans craft and knowledge is amazing, so at ease your mouth already! Have you smart asses ever been to a reservations, powwow, do you know how many tribes and nations there were on this continent, did you know which ones were advanced and which once were primitive? Did you know some tribes smelted copper point's? Have you even studied aboriginal nations? Stop being rude and have some honor and integrity! One Love First Nations
How did they do it back in the day?
I've been sticking the point in the ground and flaking it almost like how one would take prisma blades off of a prisma core. Makes nice flutes, just dont know if it's how they did it back 13000 years ago.
This jig setup looks very interesting, brilliant technology for this form of flaking. Enjoyed watching
Jim, I have been watching all your knapping videos and can't stop watching. It is both mesmerizing and inspiring to see someone so thoroughly engaged with their craft, and it shows in the excellence of your work. Thanks for the videos and best wishes!
Do you think at somepoint you could do a video on the exact specs of this jig? I'd really like to make one eventually.
I also figured out a way to do it in the crook if a tree between branches.Possible ancients did it this way
For sure, the old boys were brilliant and no doubt found the best methods
@@paleomanjim yes Sir! Very resourceful indeed !
Jim the original Jig looks allot like one a friend used to use back in the 80's. Ivan Imel from Amarillo TX.
If this guy didn't use a potato to film this content would be so worth sharing. Edit: Just to be clear here, in 2007 the XL2 was a standard for prosumer usage, that's native 1080p digital. And it had been out for a fair bit too. The XL1 was about one tenth the price and shot native 720p with high fidelity on board audio with XLR outputs. And somehow this is iPhone 2 quality. :(
I really enjoyed watching the video.
Good idea looks like it will work every time.
No one forced you to watch
paleomanjim Some people suck. Your instruction is world class and I for one appreciate it.
@Francis Rogelio Awesome!
Jim, great video as always. I'm partway through your cores and blades series and I wondered: have you ever attempted using the compound jig on a blade core? I can see where it could give really good control of the pressure and angle of attack on a core. But maybe there are problems with using the jig for blades that I'm not seeing without actually going through the process. Again, just wondered if you had ever thought to try it. Thanks!
Hello, yes I did give that a try. The biggest problem is that the uprights are in the way, although it works for smaller cores. I could modify the jig a bit but never did. Good idea though, thanks....jim
I live in AZ and would love to collect some of that , do you know the whereabouts it comes from !!
It has been a long time since I was there, but this stone occurs around 3 or 4 miles north of Ash Fork, Arizona and extends for several miles, lots of stone free for the taking!
GEE-a-TEEN
12 years later the glass picnic table bothers me more than the temptation if unscrupulous vendors who would sell an artifact, real OR fake.
I just want to find some one who i can get this quality' of stones from to make my own hunting points to use in my traditional bows n arrows
dam your good my grand father found a 23" biaface clovis cermonial stone thought tobe a sword from the experts ive shown it to. thinking about putting it up 4 sale
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Can you show pictures if you have them? That would be fantastic to see!
Where did early man get his paint sticks
Its an old Indian trick
I just hold the edges of the point in my fingers no rubber bands or lashing
Yep, lots of ways to get the job done
I agree 100%
Great video!
Zekeyo37
@MrToshTogo thanks:)
You think they used things like this in the stone age?
Thanks for your efforts in the video and developing the machinery. However, how did the ancients make them? That’s what many of us I believe are interested in finding out.
is it actually called a clovis?
Stephen That's what I was wondering. Doesn't seem right to me.
@Tubeaceous Its cheating plain and simple! But it does tach modern knappers how to set up the nipple and coutours prior to fluting. I have some other videos showing how to do it the abo way with percussion also....
Why don't you do it the old way.
There many have been some over thinking here.
Well , I made a jig and fluted my first clovis,the flute went right to the end on a 2" point,I took it in the house and showed my wife,all three pieces........ooops/..//./
Boy those cave men were smart...
Hey Jim, I've been trying to make a clovis point. I've made about 4 preforms and the nipples are appropriate for fluting. The contours are nice and round, but I have one question. When I'm fluting on a jig, how far up in the nipple should I place the lever? All the way? Halfway?
Zack Hansen A lot depends on how the nipple mates with the copper lever, a good flat mating is best. If the lever is placed too shallow and not far enough back on the nipple the flute can sometimes start prematurely and run too shallow. Often times part of the nipple will remain on the preform. I prefer to have the copper lever at the back of the nipple, but be careful not to go behind the nipple because the follow thru of the lever can split the preform down the middle. Hope this helps.....:)
Zack Hansen
I built one out of steel
The indians didn't use that device. Just buy one on ebay at that point
Don't buy arrowheads at shows!
Just allot of BS to make a primitive point. Using this rig gives you no skill in flint napping. Very LAME
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
What next ? Why not let a computer make the arrowheads! You are straying too far from the enjoyment of making the arrowheads like the ancients did! Jigs are nice, cool idea, but come on , really, do we need more automation ? Just sayin'
triumphmanful , if an Indian was a good enough carpenter, to make a precise controlling jig, would he not? But yeah, as soon as fucking robots start knapping, what a grim world.
triumphmanful ........Great for handicapped.
ryan B ....that's what the Indians said about the flintlock rifle.....then they started to either trade or kill for them.
Because it's just grown men playing. Whatever entertains you is what you do.