This is some excellent footage here. Love these trains. I'm in South Carolina, and have tentative plans to visit the Pilbara next year to see these for myself. Thanks for sharing!
Hey John, just to clarify and help you, the loaded trains out of the mines are 42 thousand tonnes and the empties are just over 6 thousand tonnes, train lengths are 2,950 metres long with 4 locomotives and 270 ore cars.
Thank you for that Anthony , but as mentioned in the video they do run smaller trains as well with no DPU/s , your information certainly shows the weight and size of the bigger trains they run .
@@johnphillips592 Very rare for single rakes to run mainline to the mines. Smaller rakes with no DP could be a Shuttle Rake being swapped out at Newman but otherwise all mainline trains are 135 cars, sometimes a couple less if cars have been cut out for the wheel lathe etc
In Mexico 🇲🇽, Ferromex's SD70ACe and ES44CA locomotives have the task of transporting gondolas loaded with steel plates. These gondolas can weigh up to 130 tons each. With an average of 110-130 gondolas loaded per train, a total transportation of around 15,600 tons is achieved in each load.
Beautiful shots. I always love the sound of trains (I actually sleep better on the train than in bed) but the hum of those big American locomotives resonating through the railcars is just beautiful and in a way soothing. Thanks for sharing. I wish to one day go railfanning in Australia..
Great footage - I loved my time in the Pilbara and always stopped if I was on the access roads going places for work, love the raw grunt of these trains.
Good ol 4300 Pumpkins I give them their fair share of wheel turns. Originally built for BNSF but Big Harry's People needed horsepower quickly on the mainline so you can have ours and we'll have yours when built.
This reminds me of the Powder River Basin in Wyoming: a dedicated RR for ONE industry out in what looks like the middle of nowhere. Unit trains galore. Real cool, and did B.H.P not follow the Rio Tinto model of automation?
All BHP mainline trains have DP and are 135 cars per portion and two loco's per portion though you will sometimes see 3 together if one is under test or 4 on the front if spare loco's are being moved to one of the minesites. Single rakes to the mines are very uncommon. Single rakes departing the Port or Boordarrie could be going to Bing or Mooka to join another portion to make up a complete train. Average weight per loaded train is around 41000 to 42000 all up.
I saw these trains 2013 -15 when I did fifo at Karatha and what I sight to see,they are so long + the sound of the engines under load WOW.They work in extreme conditions Great video 👍👍👍🇦🇺
What braking system do these trains use? Are they single or dual system type. I believe the vacuum cylinder type is more effective and efficient to these type of loads. Can someone from BHP Mining-Railway Train Systems correct me?
Hello sir, I'm from Indonesia. I want to ask what transportation you take to the Pilbara because if one day I go to Australia I can visit the Pilbara to record the trains there.
I traveled there by car with a caravan attached , you can get there by air or bus , it is a long way from Perth so travelling by plane from Perth would be a lot quicker .
Why are they transporting the ore so far? Do they need to locate the processing facility closer to a population center? I guess that will be automated too at some point very soon; they can just put an automated processing facility right next door to the mining operation and just ship the steel.
up to your normal standard of professionalism. you got photo-bombed by a large bird of prey at 2:06. it may have also been watching trains but flew off when you pointed the camera at it suspecting that you may have been pointing something else that shoots.
Applied for a job here as a train driver around 2007. Then the crash happened and all the jobs were stopped. Shame really. Still driving, just in the UK.
Those RRs were paying very well at the time. They probably still are. I thought about doing it too. Being in the US, I am familiar with the equipment, DPU, and contrary to the Australian myth: we too have trains that big 😁. So it all added up to a possible transition. Then things changed, and to quote Jeremy Clarkson when pointing to Australia on a map "too many spiders", and frankly too hot and remote as well. Turns out, Class 1's in the US pay just as well so, the dream died. But it's still a fascinating operation to watch.
@@michlo3393 I always fancied the idea for working on an American railroad. For me it would have been the Union Pacific. They have a unique and strong identity. I think I would have been very happy there. It would have been interesting having an engineer with a British accent!
Returned from more than one Rio Tinto open pit mines 10 minutes ago. Courtesy of Google Maps orbital photography. A more ugly view I've seen personally outside Australia. I'll decline to visit Rio Tinto again .
hey Jhon. Si bien es interesante saber el tonelaje que se mueve, tambien seria bueno que pongas la cantidad de vagones que mueven los australianos. Por ahora los trenes mas largos que se han visto son los de EEUU y Canada. Ahora empieza la duda de sobre que cantidad de vagones se mueven en australia. Trate de contar vagones pero con los cortes del video no se logra saber la cifra. Es el segundo video que veo de tu produccion y estamos adoleciendo esa falta de datos. Gracias.!!
A long comment... I just fine it funny that Rio Tinto put so much money into their auto haul system turn off or removed lineside signals along their mainline yet here the other big haulers in the area still us man crews and as people see in the beginning of the video line side signals (4:00). Another thing I fine cool is BHP use to use a mix bag of mod GE Dash8s and 9s SD40-2s and the huge (my favorite) AC6000 beside the now huge fleet of SD70aces yet Roy hill went with the tested ES44ACi used on the Rio Tinto... yet Fortescue is the only one with a mix fleet of EMD (SD9043macs and SD70ACE) and GE units. are the racks still about 112 cars for BHP then the DPUs or did they change that? I see Roy Hill went from having only 3 ES44ACis (two front one mid) to two and two. Just an amazing video you have here continue to impress us with these awesome remote Railroads.
Train length varies depending on what mine it came from , the ones with DPU/S can be very long , not sure how many wagons , didn't count them , too busy filming and flying drone .
@@johnphillips592 I remember a few years ago BHP ran the trains in sets of 112 cars, 224, and the massive 336 trains with engines every 112 cars. didn't know if that changed or not never the less a great video you have and I can't wait to see you Rio tinto video
@@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 Used to drive what we called the 300's, 6 loco's. Everything now is 270 cars with a DP at the 135 mark except the Newman Shuttle Rakes. The 300's were beautiful trains to drive. The AC6000's were a nice loco to drive if you got one on the head end, savage DB, big spacious cab.
Cool to see those big SD70ACes working so hard. The Pilbara iron ore railways seem similar to those in Northern Quebec, with long trains and big ACes. Greetings from Canada!
This is some excellent footage here. Love these trains. I'm in South Carolina, and have tentative plans to visit the Pilbara next year to see these for myself. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you and enjoy your trip to the Pilbara .
Make sure you know what the temperatures are going to be when you go…. The Pilbara in the (Southern) summer is pretty brutal….
I'd love to go railfanning in Western Australia one day
Greetings from Texas
Yes , its an interesting place but very remote .
Hey John, just to clarify and help you, the loaded trains out of the mines are 42 thousand tonnes and the empties are just over 6 thousand tonnes, train lengths are 2,950 metres long with 4 locomotives and 270 ore cars.
Thank you for that Anthony , but as mentioned in the video they do run smaller trains as well with no DPU/s , your information certainly shows the weight and size of the bigger trains they run .
@@johnphillips592 Very rare for single rakes to run mainline to the mines. Smaller rakes with no DP could be a Shuttle Rake being swapped out at Newman but otherwise all mainline trains are 135 cars, sometimes a couple less if cars have been cut out for the wheel lathe etc
In Mexico 🇲🇽, Ferromex's SD70ACe and ES44CA locomotives have the task of transporting gondolas loaded with steel plates. These gondolas can weigh up to 130 tons each. With an average of 110-130 gondolas loaded per train, a total transportation of around 15,600 tons is achieved in each load.
th-cam.com/video/m2JZZShy4UQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pNY8G1fz3wFjQlmC
This is a flat metal head from Ferromex
It shows how trains can carry the big loads
Beautiful shots. I always love the sound of trains (I actually sleep better on the train than in bed) but the hum of those big American locomotives resonating through the railcars is just beautiful and in a way soothing. Thanks for sharing. I wish to one day go railfanning in Australia..
Thanks for the comment , glad you enjoyed the video
These trains are VERY heavy, Great catches
Great footage - I loved my time in the Pilbara and always stopped if I was on the access roads going places for work, love the raw grunt of these trains.
Thanks for that , yes the trains are impressive .
Wow American manufacturered locomotives hauling rolling stock manufacturered in Australia, China, Europe, and the USA
living up to our multi cultural country identity
Good ol 4300 Pumpkins I give them their fair share of wheel turns. Originally built for BNSF but Big Harry's People needed horsepower quickly on the mainline so you can have ours and we'll have yours when built.
I work in the BHP Mooka ore car repair shop, hope to continue shunting and eventually become a yard driver then main line one day 👍🏻
Thanks for the reply , hope everything works out for you
There can't possibly be a speed limit on that road 😄😄😄🚗🚗🚗
Hi John, many thanks for the awesome video.
Thanks , glad you enjoyed it , I certainly enjoyed filming and editing it .
Wow SD70aces in Australia? Never thought I would see that. Nice catches
Yes , fully imported from the states ,
Awesome video and editing, very professional!
Thanks for that .Glad you enjoyed it .
I hear some of your trains from the company Rio Tinto are actually automated without a driver in the cab. That's both cool yet terrifying
Yes they are , please watch th-cam.com/video/hf5iBbmas2w/w-d-xo.html for video on those automated trains .
went thru Hedland in 82 , back then it was the biggest cash run in the world being over $4M a week in pays. It was protected by a dozen shotguns
This reminds me of the Powder River Basin in Wyoming: a dedicated RR for ONE industry out in what looks like the middle of nowhere. Unit trains galore. Real cool, and did B.H.P not follow the Rio Tinto model of automation?
Rio Tinto is the only operation in the Pilbara that uses the automation system
I seen these trains in Port Hedland 15yrs ago
Some neat work.
Thanks , glad you enjoyed it .
All BHP mainline trains have DP and are 135 cars per portion and two loco's per portion though you will sometimes see 3 together if one is under test or 4 on the front if spare loco's are being moved to one of the minesites. Single rakes to the mines are very uncommon. Single rakes departing the Port or Boordarrie could be going to Bing or Mooka to join another portion to make up a complete train. Average weight per loaded train is around 41000 to 42000 all up.
A very interesting video 👍🏻
Railway Freight and Passenger Rolling Stock Vehicle Mechanical Maintenance Fitter, my most loved career.
Greeting sir , muhammad rarung from indonesia , the awesome video sir .. 🙏🙏
Thank you , glad you enjoyed it .
Bing Siding at Port Hedland Coal Train Passing Right Next a Fast Coal Train at Port Hedland In Australia 3:37
I saw these trains 2013 -15 when I did fifo at Karatha and what I sight to see,they are so long + the sound of the engines under load WOW.They work in extreme conditions Great video 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Yes they do work them hard but they do a great job hauling those long trains
Arrived at port Hedland Australia and Departing 11:55
Absolutely fascinating...👍👍👍
Do the locomotives have toilets on board?
How is refueling managed?
Yes they do have toilets and they are fueled at Port Hedland .
And Another one Passes Through At Port Hedland Australia 6:01
What braking system do these trains use? Are they single or dual system type. I believe the vacuum cylinder type is more effective and efficient to these type of loads. Can someone from BHP Mining-Railway Train Systems correct me?
great video i love these monster ore trains. fortiscue's SD9043'S look good far better CP/NS SD70ACu's , any word on how these perform
With their new engines they seem to work well
how can they start and stop without a human?
All trains in Port Hedland have drivers , only the trains of Rio Tinto in Karratha are automated
Hello sir, I'm from Indonesia. I want to ask what transportation you take to the Pilbara because if one day I go to Australia I can visit the Pilbara to record the trains there.
I traveled there by car with a caravan attached , you can get there by air or bus , it is a long way from Perth so travelling by plane from Perth would be a lot quicker .
Why are they transporting the ore so far? Do they need to locate the processing facility closer to a population center? I guess that will be automated too at some point very soon; they can just put an automated processing facility right next door to the mining operation and just ship the steel.
How taiwan sees the dragon:
up to your normal standard of professionalism. you got photo-bombed by a large bird of prey at 2:06. it may have also been watching trains but flew off when you pointed the camera at it suspecting that you may have been pointing something else that shoots.
A Black Kite rail fan , now that would be interesting , lol
Applied for a job here as a train driver around 2007. Then the crash happened and all the jobs were stopped. Shame really. Still driving, just in the UK.
Would have been a bit of a shock weather wise for you
@@johnphillips592 Possibly, but I guess it’s something you eventually acclimatise to. And I imagine the cabs have very excellent air con!
You do get used to it but not my cup of tea .@@22pcirish
Those RRs were paying very well at the time. They probably still are. I thought about doing it too. Being in the US, I am familiar with the equipment, DPU, and contrary to the Australian myth: we too have trains that big 😁. So it all added up to a possible transition. Then things changed, and to quote Jeremy Clarkson when pointing to Australia on a map "too many spiders", and frankly too hot and remote as well. Turns out, Class 1's in the US pay just as well so, the dream died. But it's still a fascinating operation to watch.
@@michlo3393 I always fancied the idea for working on an American railroad. For me it would have been the Union Pacific. They have a unique and strong identity. I think I would have been very happy there. It would have been interesting having an engineer with a British accent!
Sankar. India
Hi John sir from India very long 🚆🚆🚆🚆
What can import
Yes they are very long trains
Returned from more than one Rio Tinto open pit mines 10 minutes ago.
Courtesy of Google Maps orbital photography. A more ugly view I've
seen personally outside Australia. I'll decline to visit Rio Tinto again .
A good blend of drone and lineside views there, John.
Thanks mate , it was a bit of an effort matching the live sound but worth it .
A Waiting To Depart to Port Hedland Australia A Empty Train Passes Right A Stopped Coal Train at Bing Sideline 9:20
These trains look like giant metal snakes slithering through the desert landscape
Exactly
These trains are carrying for ore from in mining zone. Views are fantastic with enjoyfully.
Thank you my Indian friend
hey Jhon. Si bien es interesante saber el tonelaje que se mueve, tambien seria bueno que pongas la cantidad de vagones que mueven los australianos. Por ahora los trenes mas largos que se han visto son los de EEUU y Canada. Ahora empieza la duda de sobre que cantidad de vagones se mueven en australia. Trate de contar vagones pero con los cortes del video no se logra saber la cifra. Es el segundo video que veo de tu produccion y estamos adoleciendo esa falta de datos. Gracias.!!
On average a normal iron ore train will consist of about 268 wagons pending on what mine they come from
@@johnphillips592 Thank You friend.!!
A long comment...
I just fine it funny that Rio Tinto put so much money into their auto haul system turn off or removed lineside signals along their mainline yet here the other big haulers in the area still us man crews and as people see in the beginning of the video line side signals (4:00). Another thing I fine cool is BHP use to use a mix bag of mod GE Dash8s and 9s SD40-2s and the huge (my favorite) AC6000 beside the now huge fleet of SD70aces yet Roy hill went with the tested ES44ACi used on the Rio Tinto... yet Fortescue is the only one with a mix fleet of EMD (SD9043macs and SD70ACE) and GE units. are the racks still about 112 cars for BHP then the DPUs or did they change that? I see Roy Hill went from having only 3 ES44ACis (two front one mid) to two and two. Just an amazing video you have here continue to impress us with these awesome remote Railroads.
Train length varies depending on what mine it came from , the ones with DPU/S can be very long , not sure how many wagons , didn't count them , too busy filming and flying drone .
There is a video coming soon on the driverless trains of Rio Tinto
@@johnphillips592 I remember a few years ago BHP ran the trains in sets of 112 cars, 224, and the massive 336 trains with engines every 112 cars. didn't know if that changed or not never the less a great video you have and I can't wait to see you Rio tinto video
@@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 Used to drive what we called the 300's, 6 loco's. Everything now is 270 cars with a DP at the 135 mark except the Newman Shuttle Rakes. The 300's were beautiful trains to drive. The AC6000's were a nice loco to drive if you got one on the head end, savage DB, big spacious cab.
@gordonbermejo5558 I believe that the 6000s here in America once you got the bugs worked out they did very good machine
Cool to see those big SD70ACes working so hard. The Pilbara iron ore railways seem similar to those in Northern Quebec, with long trains and big ACes. Greetings from Canada!
They are great to watch on those big trains , pity it's such a remote location
You have a great vantage point, for those es44 s in full power mode, Amazing videos John !! (=...Thanks !!
Thanks for that , glad you enjoyed it
Wow
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