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Bro you fucking called the Grand Foreigner 💀💀💀
Fans: That goes against the rules
Klidge: Screw the Rules, Fate want more money.
"Excalibur is the strongest noble phantasm" mfs trying to explain why the sword laser is stronger than destroying and rebuilding the universe in an instant
"Gilgamesh is the strongest servant! It's impossible to defeat him!"
-Gil dies to a manaless teenager on 1v1 and to a unhinged teenage girl on a alley.
I mean olga doesn’t have to be grand, we’ve had other beasts become servants and non of them are grand, in fact they retain their beast class status.
You would definitely know.
Klidge is literally the only TH-camr who talks fast but still somehow makes every single word make sense, bravo
I have a stutter so if I go to slow I can’t talk
@@klidge
By the way you said historical figures? Isn't fate full of literature and mythical figures as well?
@@happymate8943 Indeed, but that is still a part of history. If people genuinely thought that Zeus, Goerge Washington, and Ohio were real beings, then they'll be considered summonable servants.
There is no such thing as grand foreigner smh fate cares about its own rules 100% they have totally never broken them
Just because you're right doesn't mean you're correct
But for seriously 😒 the #1 rule we're that we're beating Beast without 7 Grand's which is what it will take to be one Beast
Rule Breaker for that one anywho sorry Kligde but Grand Foreigner can't work not because rules hell we can use the Grail to make a new Grand Class the problem if gives Chaldea the high ground
The pRotagoNist has to be weak that's Koyan kicks our ass at the beginning of Lostbelt saga hah
Grand Gogh-chan or hokusai tho?
@@tonyinfinite5174 it’s not that we’re weak, we kick a fucking Elemental’s ass back to back later. Chaldea was blindsided and we were severely under equipped due to the tower’s
Intervention.
"Fate cares about its own rules 100% they have totally never broken them"
Oh really, are you going to start some "fact" before searching the truth?
Are you sure? And believed Type-Moon shit never broke their rules? Love their work, they only have 1 shit, that always broke the rule.
Even the average Type-Moon fan know that, and the older fan know too.
Should I tell you what was one of the rule that they broke?
@@Kekauzu you either missed the joke or youre taking it very seriously
I’ve always viewed it like this.
FGO Part 1 focused on Singularities. So dealing with events in the past.
FGO Part 2 focused on Lostbelts. So dealing with diverted histories in the present time.
So FGO Part 3 could possibly be based on the Future…? That or the serventverse.
After lostbelt 7 it's gonna be lostbelt 8, smh
(first of all I'd like to say I'm still on Olympus story so I don't know everything) I'm kinda surprised no one's theorizing about Marisbury. Like if we're talking about antagonists we could reasonably predict appearing in the future he seems like a pretty clear twist character. He's this highly influential figure in Chaldea who not only laid the groundwork for everything we have been able to do, but almost set it all into motion. And then he just died before the main story. Especially with the spoilers I've gotten about Olga, as well as what Kirshtaria said about Marisbury giving them the Sirius Lights, it seems like Marisbury has a lot of potential and seeing him again isn't too unlikely.
Saying gudako is canon.
This man came out swinging.
Klidge guess who just popped up this video is only three months old and you prophesized it
SPOILERS
a Grand Foreigner now exist
I’d like to thank the academy, Nasu, and the production crew of Emiya Gohan.
@@klidge Emiya Gohan hmm imagining his cooking could buff magecraft would make Shirou sought after by the muslik and yggmelinia
Honestly the idea of Olga knowing how to repair Humanity then having that knowledge stolen from her and us having to hunt it down sounds like a pretty good way to move forwards. It’s not like we know for sure that destroying the Lostbelts will restore Humanity and I like the idea that as we restore her memories, we get hints towards what we need to do. iirc it was said somewhere that Rhongo was like a stake that held the texture of the world to the planet so perhaps we need to return to the Camelot Singularity in order to retrieve it somewhere along the line. Idk if I’m just rambling and if this sounded better in my head or not.
There are two Rhongomyniads: the Tower which holds the textures of the world and the lance itself. And honestly they might be related but they are not the same wherein the lance is simply like a shadow of the tower. This gets more confusing when LB6 came in with Morgan's stuff explaining that Rhongomyniad is a magecraft and then functions as a turret when used by castoria.
@@Zyleace That's LB6, name's the same but that's it.
I don't think returning to a Singularity is an actual thing in lore. Gameplay-wise, yea, sure, but as far as the story concerned once you done restoring it, that's it.
@@AsureAgony I recall there being Interludes where you go back into a Singularity. I think you can revist them because the restoration process is still happening, but that only really holds up during Part 1 proper, after that it's just gameplay.
I think the (True) Wandering Sea will be the new enemy of Part 3. There are multiple hints.
After reading through the last bits of Imaginary Scramble, that part where Skadi explains the possible goals of the Outer Gods, it kinda seem possible to make that into a "decent" plot after the Lostbelt arc, but that may be just me being a huge Lovecraftian horror fan
As a fellow huge Lovecraftian horror fan, I recommend the novel "Lord of the mysteries", if you spent hours on the game don't get scared with the number of chapters then, after volume 1 everything is freaking worth it
I think what is very likely to happen is that for the next part (after the fuyuki chapter post lb7) Mash or Kadoc becomes the new master of chaldea while Gudako/Ritsuka becomes the next big bad for part 3. We've had lots of foreshadowing regarding the MC's fate and the mental trauma they are going through. If the world the MC is from is itself a lost belt I get the feeling they may break.
I think Mash's story being beast is believable but it would probably gonna be like epic of remnant or something.
I back counterforce Mash purely because of the potential nickname.
Mash Alter
Malter
Malt
Whiskey.
The guy predicted the grand foreigner. Fate really doesnt care about rules uh....
I mean to be fair Ort is strong enough to Force it to be a thing.
I honestly see us going full rouge and having to go against the mages association that or we start popping open doors in the wandering sea (joke answer is hopefully therapy comes after all this)
Honestly, the idea of Mash becoming a beast is quite interesting but I'd honestly prefer a scenario where fujimaru either becomes a beast or we are forced to fight the beast Fujimaru from a lostbelt. After all, arc 2 is a story about losing humanity to save humanity so that seems like a reasonable wat for things to go, a version of history where Fujimaru sacrifices their humanity to become a beast and "save" humanity in their own way, likely trying to save everyone when such a thing cannot happen
Fate: grand foreigner....sounds like money to us.
Also Fate series: screw the rules we have money
Of course after LB7 we will have Remmanants of LB with pseudo Lostbelts :^)
I mean shimousa is close to be pseudo lostbelt
After that, I’m hoping that we get a third arc where we fight Beast V and/or Beast VI (as in, the Beast of Revelation, not Mother Harlot from the Arcade).
@@Nameless-ln5mr If that happens, I want the present day humanity to be the root cause for Beast VI appearing (finally) in the mobile game.
Here's what would happen: Chaldea ends up undoing the bleaching and restoring humanity, only for Beast VI to then brainwash the entire world into thinking that we're global terrorists who are getting in the way of "world peace" and must die no matter the cost. That way we are forced to fight against the very humanity we've been trying to save the whole time. Even worse, the brainwashing extends to 99% of the Servants who once worked under Chaldea (only Mash, the former Grands, and former Beasts like Kama and Koyanskaya are unaffected).
Our only hope of reversing this madness is by killing Beast VI. But it has literally the entire world wrapped up in its power, including nearly every human-based Servant in history.
>what comes after lostbelt 7
tsukihime 2
Just a funny reminder that Spartacus did say that we are destined to become an oppressor one day 🙄
In a interview Nasu said he is still writing the scenario for post-part 2, and he is still not sure if the MC will remain the same or if he will make a new one.
That's not exactly what he said, he said he's got two ideas one with Chaldea and one without but that he would prefer going with first option, it depends on the audience reaction (something like that), he didn't say anything about changing the MC that also really wouldn't work with the game.
I wanna see more of Chaldea’s adventures.
I'm placing my bets on Kadoc being the next protagonist going forward. Given how he was one of the only Crypters who survived this long and turn coated on the Alien God's plans (The other being Yu-Meiren, albeit out of great reluctance from Emperor Qin's request to become a Servant), I think it's being poised for him to setup to the plate.
MINOR(?) SPOILERS FOR TRAUM:
From what I recall from when Traum was released, there is a section where Kadoc is playable as the MC and had his own Master Skills for use. Not to mention Ruler Moriarty having a My Room line with Kadoc directly. I haven't seen anything else besides one boss fight, but this could be the direction they are heading in.
The problem with that is that Kadoc already had his own character arc. And is a brooding, bitter guy unlike Guda, so he doesn't past the first meter: being easy to insert in
The way I see the story panning out, all the Crypters will die again before the LB arc concludes. Five have already done so; we just need to kill Daybit (that bastard made his choice, so he has it coming no matter what) and then give Kadoc a proper sending off. The latter's most likely fate is him using his Sirius Light for our sake.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459I'm sorry but how is someone who charges straight towards a giant monster easy to insert in
@@demothiguillermo2059 escapism character for fantasy fulfilment.
6:20 There's no Grand Foreigner.
*Looks at ORT*
Uuuuh... about that "rule in fate means nothing", is it really literal or-?
bringing this up
next chapter name preview is
"memorial chapter prologue"
or something close to "final chapter"
lot of people r saying its fuyuki
main 2 factors r
>fuyuki appeared after lb7 preview in arc 2 trailer showing salter overseeing a still burning fuyuki- no real reason for that to appear but now? it's likely
>box design is arc 1 design
other factors r (jp spoilers)
>mentioned in last lb7 chapter that gang is going back to chaldeas base (antarctica) to find answers nd human order (counterforce mainly) is gonna try its absolute hardest to make sure that doesnt happen
>sion said there's still an active anomaly in japan (this happened after traum and lb7 is after traum)
This is just a personal theory but one I've seen spread around by other people but I want to almost guess that since Part 1 was about beating threats from the past and Part 2 is about restoring the present that Part 3 will have something to do with the future, perhaps something like us going into the future to restore our world from potentially becoming a Lostbelt, perhaps some kinda Beast with clairvoyance that knows we will eventually beat it so it tries to fuck with Proper Human History so the timeline where we defeat it doesn't exist
Hey doesn’t Sion mention that like everyone in the Wandering Sea predicted a different end of the world? it’s totally possible we focus on like various end of the world stories like ragnarok (which yeah we touched on in lb2 but whatever) armageddon, ww3 and the like. I think a great character to have as a focus is Da Vinci, who in the potential absence of Olga, Roman and probably Gordy will be the de facto leader of Chaldea crumbling under the expectations of Chaldea for her to be as good as caster vinci...? idk, expectations and end of the workd seem p legit tho.
@@giladmachluf3663 the only issue i see is who would be part of it, considering the people in charge of each chapter would likely be heroes or villains that in our timeline wouldnt exist yet, perhaps we'll get to see various beast larvae fused with heroic spirits or something since the beasts are the harbringers of destruction
or perhaps we will see already established type moon characters that aren't actual pieces of history as servants because theyre connected to said incarnation of oblivion
@@shikiyama I'm not gonna lie, I could totally see Ordeal Call being SOMEHOW connected to a future Fate fighting game. Like, imagine a Fate fighting game, but the casts are all fate masters as servants
Personally hoping that Olga does end up becoming a friendly and helps unbleach the world, and that Kadoc becomes her master (so that they both have an excuse to stay relevant in the game). However, rather than her memories being shattered by a different enemy, I want that to a be a consequence of Gudako beating the snot out of her, and Olga instead figures out how to restore the planet by learning to love humanity
Um...don't you have you love humanity to become a Beast in the first place? I am very certain that was a pre-requisite.
@@Dragonpit I figure that after being killed twice by humanity, she'd have a bit of a grudge, and besides, if Gudako beats the snot out of her, whatever playable version we get of her would be just a shell of that former power. Her rediscovering her love for humanity would restore some of that previous power and inevitably prove why she became a Beast in the first place, but with the return of her power and love, she decides to restore the world.
Admittedly, I haven't read beyond Olympus, but based on what I remember of Olga, she did love humanity, even if she didn't really know why she was trying to so hard to protect it. I'm assuming the Beast version of her is similar; too busy with the action of protecting that she doesn't know the why. The ingame version of her that I imagined is going to figure out the why and have that reinforce her ability to protect.
I'm still curious on what's going on with Fuyuki. It's in the opening so I'm assuming we're going there again.
Honestly, if you want my theory on the climax of Part 2: I think Ritsuka's journey is, to some extent, meant to parallel Mash's journey in Part 1. Each of the Lostbelts since Lostbelt 4 has had at least one section in which Ritsuka has reflected onscreen about what they're doing, and based on the segments in question that appear in Olympus and LB6, it seems like Ritsuka is looking for a "reason" why this was all worth it. I feel like, at the end of Part 2, Ritsuka will have found that answer, and will give it to the Alien God, in the same way Mash refuted Goetia's desire for a world without death.
Also, there's another reason why people are doomsaying FGO: Nasu has said in the past that he wants the end of Part 2 to be an *ending.* He's not going to be directly involved with FGO after Part 2, and it seems like he wants the story he's telling to end with a sense of finality. And for those who say that Type-Moon wouldn't kill their cash cow: when developing the Tsukihime remake, Nasu deliberately dialed up the horror factor of an early scene (when Shiki attempts to murder Arcueid), which resulted in the game receiving the equivalent of an ESRB AO rating. This made the game harder to sell, because many outlets won't sell games with a rating that high. Nasu did it anyway, for the sake of his artistic integrity.
TL;DR: I honestly think Nasu might end FGO with Part 2, because to him, telling the story he wants to tell is far more important than making money.
He said that he will leave Fgo after part 2 and he also said they are looking for someone to be his replacement as screenwriter.
A normal visual novel like Tsukihime and a massively successful gacha game like FGO are two completely different beasts when it comes to making money. They're not even in the same level.
It's also not up to Nasu to end the game or not.
@@theazureknight9399 Nasu absolutely *would* kill a massive cash cow if he felt he had to for the story. Granted, some of the others at Type Moon might convince him otherwise, but Nasu is very much someone who creates for the sake of his creation, not for the sake of monetary gain. Remember, he killed off Musashi, who is a massively popular character, during the climax of Olympus.
Also, I'm pretty sure it *is* up to Type Moon if Aniplex can keep making FGO using their intellectual property, tho it depends on the details of the contract they worked out.
If the game ends like this, there needs to be at least a proper boss fight with Beast VII in some capacity. As to what exactly is Beast VII (hint: as of the end of LB7 it's not U-Olga Marie), that remains to be seen.
@@cameraredeye3115 Actually, Olga Marie is still (theoretically) Beast VII. Just because she's not the true Foreign God, doesn't mean the Beast readings that the crew have been getting from her are fake.
A servant that I wish too see one day is Manuel Rodríguez, he is one of the only secret agents the country of Chile ever had and also when he died they never found his body so I think they can do a really cool pretender or assassin class servant
6:43 I like that Part 3 idea and also a starter protagonist type pretender servant is a interesting start too
Fgo being like "screw the rules I have money"
I hate to say it, but I think the Mash-Beast/CG theory has a lot more weight to it, as there is a theory that Ritsuka become something called the "Red Shadow". With Us re-pruning the Lostbelts, we will be the closest thing the a living beast, and Mash would definite take up the role of Grand Shielder to defend the world if we went mad deciding our world wasn't the one worth saving.
A red Shadow Wait like the red man from Holy night of the white witch holy shit the reference old material here
if by definition a 'grand' servant is the best/strongest to ever exist in their own respective class... and mash is the only one in shielder class, so does that makes her a grand shielder already(?) if not even from the begining (supposedly if galahad original class isn't a shielder). well correct me if i'm wrong or just ignore this kwkwkw
@@tonyinfinite5174 If you turn around, it will kill you.
@@eistfast5005 no, grand servant mean the exemplar to the class, while she is the only shielder, she isn't grand because if she was that would mean other shielders would exist that would be compared to her. Much like how all assassines can be compared to king Hassan.
@@trungvu8957 1 we need summer Eresh
2 More Nasuverse lore bits are great
Well whatever happens we still have beast 6 and 5, and we know three beast parts too, mother harlot was confirmed not dead after the arcade climax by Nasu, then her ride is on mobile so she could definitely come to our timeline when we finally see beast 666. Then mother harlot called proto Merlin beast of the planet, so it's looking like we or arcade could end up fighting her at some point, but she is currently in the mobile timeline as of summer
Finally, someone else was thinking about how Olga could be useful in Arc 3.
I personally like to see a new main character after the Lostbelt arc and if we continue with the ritsuka story it will be great to see a time jump where we see the adult fujimaru
Legal Fujimaru
I know that this is something that I haven't seen discussed and it's a weird point.
But one major theme that no one seems to think about FGO's story line is where these stories are taking place.
Arc 1 took place in the past. Fixing history, and even exploring Pan Humans History. They always make it a major point to describe the time periods, especially in the introduction screens once each story chapter starts.
Arc 2 are the Lostbelts. Points in humanity that were pruned away in the past, allowed to survive into OUR present. It's brought up in Lostbelt 5 that the trees simulate the history and what would have happened between then and now in OUR CURRENT YEAR. They're living in (well at least in the case of NA) in the year of 2022. Though Lostbelt 6 is an extremely massive exception to this rule, I'm not sure if there is a bit covering the difference between Lostbelt 6 and the other Lostbelts due having a lack of a tree.
So, we've tackled the past and the present. What's left to face? Nothing but the major point brought up in both Arc 1 and 2. The future. It's always brought up how humanity fights for its future, and to keep moving forward, no matter the chapter when it comes to main story content. We're fighting for OUR unknown future.
But then what? We get OUR present back? What of the future? I'm no profesional writer. Good God no I'm not. But it's not something I feel like that should be over looked.
I couldn't begin to tell you where an idea and concept like this can be taken, but just like a true Fate fan will do. I'm not gonna despair, doom and gloom, I'm gonna face the future head on, take the lessons the game taught me and teaches many others and I'll simply face on what comes next. I'll enjoy the ride, and when the come ends I'll accept it and look forward to what may happen next with cautious optimism.
Wouldn't Grand Foreigner, realistcally, be Azathoth? Well, a Servant fused with Azathoth, but still-
ORT: Allow me.
We are gonna fight Mushroom Man himself.
Bro wtf you talking about Spishtar is taking us to a space travel. I read it in her bond CE
Arc 1 was about the past, Arc 2 is about the present, so maybe Arc 3 will be about the future? Whatever that would be about is entirely up to anyone. Also I do like the idea of Fujimaru’ story at Arc 2 and we get a new protagonist. It’s time to start changing things up.
I doubt that they would kill the 2 main character off (in a regular game? Sure. In an online service game? I don't see that happening.)
The "slowly turning into a beast" theory dose hold some weight tough.
Since Galahad isn't the most "here when we need him" guy and Mash having Fous power could be a thing that happenes at the end. But I do not think that we would just kill her.
That would go against the character of Guda, Goldorf, Mash and basicly everybody else. So If that were to happen than that would be the new plot.
Ether her or Guda would become a ticking time bomb (like one of them gets frozen in stasis and we have X amount of time to find the cure or all hell breaks loose), or would be with us but like a corruption system it gets worse as we go over the chapters.
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If it is Guda that gets this treatment than we can have a new MC for a while (be it Kadock or Olga).
If Kadoc becomes summonable as a pseudo servant, I will go into credit card debt
I mean I feel like we'll play more as kadoc instead of guda on lostbelt 7. For my own theory after lostbelt 7 would probably be that either guda turn into an enemy or something with the mage association. Ever since lostbelt 6.5 and what young Moriarty told us about we being on phase 2 (correct me if I'm wrong plz) I feel like guda will turn something not human and we might get to see mash alter or something like that and that's why we are getting to play as kadoc more in lostbelt 7 and beyond.
There are implications that Guda already isn't human, but honestly I have to disagree with this theory. If only because Kadoc's Sirius Light seems like the "reset button" that could restore humanity after the Alien God is defeated... but doing so would kill him.
6:23 …
…Well, shit. You got me there, pal.
I am betting Olga dies again at the end of this, regardless of her becoming a friendly. And even if she DOES somehow survive, it is extremely doubtful that the main character or Mash won't be lost instead. Fate, as a series, has always asserted that everything has a cost, but that cost has never been time and effort (at least, to my recollection); the cost has always been human life. You have a dream or goal to fulfill? Better be prepared to KILL for it, because it's not like anyone's going to let you do that, because chances are, their own goals and dreams are at stake as well. And no amount of creative thinking, problem solving, or inventiveness will allow you to overcome it.
Sounds like describing a Holy Grail War, doesn't it? Well, I'm not. Chances are, to restore humanity, Olga Marie will probably have to be destroyed. According to the game, she's been feeding off of Lostbelts, so her current body is likely chockful of the resources necessary to restore humanity to its original form. Tack on the fact that she was the one who wiped out humanity in the first place with her magecraft, and the end point practically states itself.
What's more, it's clear she's trying to become an Ultimate One, and it so happens that the Wandering Sea has sealed within its walls weapons capable of destroying a planet.
Also, Japanese culture does play a role here, which is very focused on saving face. There's an element of Bushido, where it is stated that if someone acts selfishly and causes harm to others, then the act of taking one's own life is called for as recompense. There's also the belief that if the soul is sent back to the Root, it is wiped clean. Tabula Rasa. Like so many other pieces of Japanese media, they will likely take the route of by killing Olga Marie, thus sending her soul to the Root, her soul will no longer be monstrous, at the cost of erasing her as a person, and this constitutes as "saving her". Because with her death, she has both atoned for her sins through paying the ultimate price and has also been saved. I myself don't really care for that whole premise, but what do I know?
Either way, I am very pessimistic about the outcome. Fate has never tried to make the world(s) a better place; it has always been about restoring or maintaining status quo. So why should this be any different?
Also, I love how everyone assumes that Mash will become a Beast when other characters warn her about her fate, all because the worst thing that could happen to the player is that we would have to fight Mash to the death. But to be honest, I don't think her becoming a Beast is all that likely. Her entire journey has always been about her growing up. Ergo, becoming a Beast would actually be a regression for her in that case. No, I think it's far more likely she will become a Grand Servant. Servants have never looked kindly upon their own state of being AS Servants, always lamenting it as being tied down by their regrets, so Mash becoming even a step closer to being a proper Servant would. by itself, be worthy of a word of caution. Throw in the title of Grand and you know that achieving something like that is going to result in some sort of heavy personal cost. Like never being able to see her sempai again, in exchange for that higher calling. Something of that nature. And as an additional twist of the knife? We (read: the main character) will have pushed her into it.
I could see only 3 possible arcs. We either focus on dealing with more Beasts or we start dealing with forces outside our world(Like Aliens, Outer Gods, etc), or we start going to other dimensions(I have no idea of whatever general ideas fgo can go).
If Olga and/or Kadoc survive the losbelt story, it would be ideal for us to actually go on another journey, but with them this time. Perfect opportunity to get to know them on a personal level.
It would be a crazy story if mash were on the path of being a beast.
Wise words from the Goatman!! 😎
There is one way we could have Guda die without needing to end the game.
Have them become a servant.
Perhaps their actions in saving the world multiple times or through the bonds of their servants they are inscribed on the throne. Maybe since they were known as "the last master of humanity" they have some special ability were they can be both a master and a servant.
It would be a good way to have the story keep going while having the ending of part 2 still be bittersweet since Gyda will never again have a normal life since they died
My theory is that after part 2.5 (whatever we need to do get from bleached earth back to normal earth.) Is fighting the outer gods in part 3.
Do you think lasengo might do something along the lines of an FGO 2 or something where they do a time skip and have the story revolve around a cast of completely different characters?
I really want more of kadoc personally
Considering the first and second parts had singularities and lostbelt which where fighting someone’s right to how the world should be ruled I’m hoping They’ll expand FGO’s own lore and origins and have the competitors of Marisbury Animusphere holy grail be the antagonist of the next phase with maybe their own timelines manifesting through weird mean, and us challenging their futures similar to the Lostbelts kings, with grand level servants, although not Solomon strong. I can imagine it would be a roster of some of the most skilled mages in the in the NasuVerse although not any as strong as the Aozaki sisters and I can see a Kiritsuru antagonist with a servant Oppe- I’m just obsessed with that old man appearing.
Definitely a carbon copy of the Crypters but FGO is just basically redoing holy grail wars with higher steaks.
Olga joining us to defeat some enemy she knows makes a lot of sense as there is this theory floating around that the real enemy is Chaldea itself. In this theory Chaldea was made to find, create and destroy Beasts in order for humanity to rise above them and evolve the human race to something "better". As this would change the essence of humanity , I can definitely see the main character and Mash not siding with this plan as they are the ones who desperately tried to get back to what humanity already had (as seen in the Lostbelts). I can see the same thing for Olga (not wanting to go along with this plan) and this also gives a purpose for Olga staying (we need her and her knowledge on Chaldea).
I am excited if the story goes into this direction but at the end of the day this so still a theory.
I think something interesting FGO could do is revisit the Types/ Ultimate Ones, this could be woven into second part of the Lostbelts with the U-Olga getting scared and hastily making more Lostbelts involving different scenarios of when earth dying and humanity surviving and Gaia getting mad and calling down the types at different points in history. Or maybe while the Earth is still bleached after we beat Olga and the World is Mad at us for it fixing it so Gaia calls the types to deploy a Reality Marble esque ability to try and fix it. I’m sure there are other ways to introduce the Types into the story which could give us plenty of opportunity’s to introduce Characters from Notes, like Ado Eden, Gun God, and Type Venus the friendly one.
Correct me if I'm wrong so I most likely am. But isn't our Olga Marie still in that sphere thing Levi put her in where she infinity dies in Fuyuki? And therfore the Alien God isn't Ogla but just looks like her for whatever reason xd
I like the Olga idea and also Beast Mash sounds cool.
Honestly, I would kinda love for guda, after being/becoming a new calamity (due to being a timeline pruner, effectively becoming the greatest "killer" of all manner of beings) to need to be put down by the friends and allies they made along the way
Wild take they might make a lostbelt 8 after lostbelt 7 but I might be wrong
Our MC got killed once already in the CC event (pop!), so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.
imagine if they use the "Death of Ritsuka" as a way to both give a new character arc to mash but also finally make our SELFINSERTS with a timeskip and all, tho it's kinda dumb i know but i've seen how other gacha games handle the whole 'u r the MC' (namely Feh and GFL) and it's always bothering me
There's a ton of Nasuverse content they could plan around, like Types, Dead Apostles, True Ancestors and the Five Sorcerers.
How can we be out of ideas if we haven’t even got Summer Gil yet?
Gilgamesh or Gills de ras? Because caster Gilgamesh has a summer outfit
@@belphy205 Caster Gil has a costume, not a summer version like Summer Artoria or Summer Ushi
@@Evil_Florida guys don't get summer versions. Only summer outfits
I always had the theory is that the next arc would be the arc of the world. the world sees us at this point as something strange.
a hero and a monster across worlds, the connection to diferent throne of heroes of diferent worlds. also is a good way to upscale teh standard, that or maybe satan. or maybe both.
basically I am saying the world is going to be the new character developed, us trying to convince it that we are not a menace, and maybe Satan trying to do the opposite (a we want a age of stars and he wants a land of steel)
Hey kildge, where i can find your thought on Emiya or you could do a post/video about him and his lackluster backstory?
The Grand Foreigner will be a 4th wall break to where the player actually self inserts with a custom avatar .
I think they’ll just say “if their was such a thing as a grand foreigner then that’ll be her”
6:12 Oh shit, you nailed the Grand Foreigner thing! Although, it was not Olga...
In short - let us wait and see.
What I am absolutely certain is that they will continue the story with Gudao/ko as MC.
But how will they raise the stake after Lostbelts I am yet to think about.
But adding Arc now as Type Earth when Lostbelt 7 is to get out is not coincidence at all. She may have big impact on how the game will end.
The personal theory is that the counterforce summons a grand servant to kill mash because if she lives, she will eventually become a being too powerful for history. Gudako's history will be either that of a strategist or a weak but hearty hero, but mash who threw hands with literal gods and monsters wayyyyyyyy above regular mythos calibre will have simply too much power. Sure her power is regulated by the counterforce if she is summoned as a servant but she has had so much exposure to beings outside of its power reach and calibre such as beasts, alien gods, foreigners etc. As such, counterforce summons a grand to kill her before regular human history corrects itself and can explain the exploits of Mash. You can't really hide mash either since she is forever connected to a beast of the world and Galahad at the same time, meaning she is practically a ticking time bomb to everyone who isn't Gudako.
Sure she is nice to us, but from everyone else's perspective she could bust nukes without sweat and take over the world fairly easily. Since we all know how shitty humanity is, we either get another religion or we get humanity rioting against itself in fear or awe of her trying to either kill or protect her, leading to the world imploding on itself. The point is the grand servant kills Mash. Gudako, unable to take this, asks a servant/alien god to go back in time to just after clearing the final lost belt or hurdle of humanity or whatever and from that point onwards they go history-hopping for something in order to save her or fight back the grand. Gudako, having gone through too much shit from the lost belts, is unable to let Mash go like that. Unlike before, what you are doing is acting selfish and is ruining humanity since Mash being alive would seriously be a problem for the world and nobody's life is at stake besides hers. Mash, being the cinnamon bun that she is, fights harshly against Gudako because she has experienced life and the sacrifices of enough people/servants to know she got the good end of the stick and is happy for where life led her.
The story from that point is whether the world deserves Mash enough for her to die for it or whether Gudako lets the world rot against Mash's and the world's will. They go time hopping into places where there will be artefacts and servants who could treat her at the same time being either chased by Chaldea or the grand in particular. Eventually deciding to team up with beasts of humanity, demons, gods, monsters or whatever to escape to despondent timelines in hopes of saving Mash despite her wishes. From these types of timelines will we get Solomon alter, or grand Foreigner or other grands trying to help/persuade us to stop. But that's what I think is cool and is an interesting spin on where the story could lead us.
I'm kind of surprised this wasn't mentioned; of course something could have happened in lost belt 5 and beyond that would disprove this. (I haven't finished reading LB4 and haven't started 5 yet. I don't keep a close eye on JP.)
This is already a spoiler-y video but I'm gonna drop it in spoilers anyways:
What about Romani/Solomon/Romani-look alike? He's still kind of a mysterious player in all of this.
Klidge, what about what Arcueid said in one of her dialogue? Where she says that we’ll die in a sea of stars or something. However, I hope we survive 😅
Whatever happens, I don't think they kill Guda before the Grand finale and replace his character. Guda, first and foremost, is a avatar for the player. Killing Guda and giving us someone else means that all the interactions with our servants would ve meaningless after that so they have to add whole bunch of new dialogues and interactions for every fricking servant, including Mash. And most of those VA aren't cheap.
1:44 Does anyone have a source for what Klidge said here? That the lostbelts will have a part 2?
I 100% think Mash will become a Counter Force Guardian and Ritsuka will die with Kadoc and Olga becoming the new MCs. One thing I don't see people talking about is David Bluebook, last we saw him he got shot by something at area 51 so that might have some implications later on since I don't think he's dead. Also let's not forget about Fou the story is very clearly implying that he's getting back is powers, he can talk again, new Vitch as evil and potentially a Beast and although it's just in a Valentines scene he brings us back to life after Space Ishtar kills us twice. (Jokes are deepest lore).
There is a theory that David Bluebook is somehow an alternate form of Daybid and/or the alien that was in Area 51 fused with him and they became Daybid
Didn’t Takeuchi say that Arcueid’s inclusion in FGO was merely for the anniversary and that her actual presence is not canon?
There is a non zero possibility that the story ends after the lostbelts.
how i wish there would be a beast vs beast match, or the 6 servants we choose are all grand to fight against a beast...or both
Hey teacher I don't know where else to ask this so I'll ask here, is there any historical basis to the tattoos all greek characters have? The red lines things that Caenis, Leo and all the greek npcs have in Atlantis.
In exchanges I will give you my thesis on that not only is Mash the main character is part 1, but the pc is genuinely the vacuous love interest. Because the boring pointless guy finding a manic pixie gf trope is the action hero going after plot device gf just from the reversed perspective and in this essay I will
Didn’t Nasu say that part 2 was like 2/3 done in an interview or something? Also I remember either Kanou or someone say they have 10 yrs of content planned and that was at year 5 JP anniversary
Edit: didn’t see the 2 month old date on the video my bad
This is my guess. We went to the past (singularities) , present (lostbelt) , and now maybe the future? I am guessing maybe going with Aristotles or with space. We did deal with ORT for lostbelt 7. Space Istar exist so…..
I can't wait for the earth itself to just be taken away like a big toy ball.
Chaldea will then have to explore the remnants of a shattered Galaxy in order to catch the supreme being that took the planet.
We might even finally get Moon-Cancer Psuedo Servant Beelzebub (Shinji Matou Extra) and get introduced to some more Fate Extra/Extella lore for the next big story arc.
I just want a Shinji Servant, we have too many Sabers and Sakuras.
We have four EMIYA and even Muramasa.
Just give me the WORM already.
Imagine Shinji as a pseudo servant for that Pirate John guy, the one who was the captain for Anne and Mary. It would be hilarious and fitting, considering he's a coward who's connected to two, very strong female characters (Sakura and Medusa)
Also, pseudo servant Hakuno when?
I would love to have olga again, cause i really liked as character in fuyuki.
But still how the hell did make to Chaldea, maybe a loop
Guako is the cannon MC for real. She is the best. 😀
I preferred Gudao I like my dense, bland, harem protagonist
I kinda wish she was the mc for the anime or we get more anime adaptations where gudako is mc instead of gudao
i mean i just love how chaotic she was in grand carnival
If they ever made Lostbelts anime, they should make Gudako the main MC instead of Gudao. I don't found any interesting thing about Gudao at all. He's basically the equivalent of a generic, power fantasy isekai harem, bland protag.
So... Space! Spaccce! SPACCCE!!!!
Im still holding out hope for Alien God jumping bodies to Type Oort and Olga somehow becoming a Demiservant with Goetia's/Man from Chaldea's saint graph to fight it.
if it still makes money no way it will die.
What about the Ultimate ones as our next big adventure or Outer Gods? There is also Beast 5 and 6 we have yet to encounter in FGO.
Since Mother Harlot was confirmed not to be dead after arcade's climax by Nasu, I could definitely see her peacing out of the arcade timeline and biding her time until her ride, beast 666 shows up on mobile and then come to merge with it before running rampant.
Beast 5 is likely to be ORT in Lostbelt 7, and Beast 6 is Arcade exclusive
klidge is the most reasonable and intelligent fgo youtuber. W video as always.
I mean would it be possible for us to die and be summoned as a servant or something considering we saved the world
idk i guess we kinda get carried by servants so i dont think its a possibility
Considering how klidge is wink wonking all the time - FGO still be running for a while
The Grand Foreigner does *EXIST* in the app FanFiction ;)
3:10 funny I said the same thing with Gudao we think alike lol
I agree
The story that i want to see (but have a really low probability are) sorta a 1.5 epic remnan, where the world of fgo mobile and arcade forced to collide by some force attempting to delete both world at the same time now now mc will try to undo the collision
A boss gauntlet? Have we gotten answers to Solomon? Or the Living Nervous System/Magical Circuits?
Is Sion a vampire? I yook Type Earth dropping as a sign for Tsukihime
Isn’t it hinted that at some point the world is going to become Guda’s enemy?
man , it'd be so cool to see goredolf hit mc status , partially b/c i wanna see what his command seals look like.
also , there's yet to be a fate series spin off that's an office rom com.
olga is too yummy to forget. I need her as a servant.