Each time that i see Emppu crying on the end riff i get the instant chills & tears ( 6:20 ). He know very well that it's the last time he perform this song with Tarja & you can see very well that he is living this moment at maxim level. Since my firest listen of Nightwish - Wishmater ( album from 2000 with Tarja) i been a Nightwish fan. I was also a fan of After Forver, first Floor Jansen band. But now that Floor joined Nightwish, not only that i'm a fan; it became my favorite band.
Marko sings solo at the same show "High Hopes" its a classic Pink Floyd Tribute cover. Marko and the boys are in their musical element while Tarja is changing clothes.
I was so mesmerized, it took me several times to notice that Jukka was close to collapsing over the drums, but he kept on. That is what I call a deviation. But I would not be so harsh about her changing clothes - after all, it was a pause that should have made her less capricious. Though, interesting, what would have happened, if they had parted their ways earlier.
Did se that tour in stockholm sweden 2005..just few days before this was recorded in helsinki finland..about one month later tarja left the band. The concert was truly unforgettable....
Tarja and Marko really brought that gothic energy to the band, I love this era! Notice how Tarja's vibrato in the last section matches the exact beat of Jukka's drums? Amazing amazing 🙏🏽❣ I know especially newer fans love the newer era the most, which i get, but the previous two eras were fantastic as well and Tarja, Tuomas and Emppu made Nightwish, they built the foundations and launched it into success within just a few years ❣
This was Nightwish's last concert with Tarja, in 2005. The concert was recorded on DVD under the name "End Of An Era". With certainty, the artistic performance that all the members of the band achieved in this concert is unique, but the "rift" between Tarja and the rest of the band was already deep, after dissensions accumulated over the years. I think you already understand the context that generated "The Poet And The Pendulum", and I think it would be interesting to see some of their documentaries.
That bond between them was pretty strained. Especially between Marko and Tarja. That´s why it is amazing that they found each other again many years after and are now touring together.
This concert was in 2005. And the bond you saw between her and the band was already broken at this point - she was fired right after the concert. Jukka hunkering over the drums or the tears in Emppus face (at 4:43) might be related to that. Everyone except her knew that it was the last performance together.
Glad you have now met Tarja, don't forget Anette the 2nd singer either. All 3 have delivered masterpieces and all 3 are different. A very different Nightwish sound is Slow Love Slow with Anette at Montreaux Jazz Festival Live. Enjoy all 3 of the singers. Tarja and Floor are old friends so there is no rivalry.
I still remember how devastating it was when Tarja got fired. Nightwish was already one of my favourites. I didn't know if they will perform ever again. And with whom? Then came all of the fuss in media. If you want to hear more Nightwish with Tarja, I suggest her version of "Ghost Love Score", "Sleeping Sun", or "Nemo".She is still the mother of symphonic metal. Good reaction.
Tarja's (tar-ya, with rolling r) voice inspired Tuomas to write the way he does. Nightwish was supposed to be an acoustic band until Tarja opened her mouth. Those long, soaring, dark operatic vocals over the symphonic sounds and metal band was so unique and nothing like we ever heard before. Female vocalists in metal were rare, and something like this didn't really exist elsewhere. If you check out Swanheart from From Wishes To Eternity concert, you'll see baby Nightwish from 24 years ago. Even Marko has not joined the band yet. I and so many others my age grew up to adulthood listening to Tarja's voice and when she was kicked out so many of us were completely devastated, also about the way it was done, which was a bad call from the band. It was such a big deal that even the prime minister of Finland gave comments about it. The whole mess was all over the press. People thought the band was finished, because nobody could replace Tarja. It was a big deal. I'm happy how everything turned out in the end though but it's been a rollercoaster.
This was in 2005 - Helsinki, Finland. I was 18 at the time, I'm 37 now. Beautiful country, beautiful venue. Graduation present. This was the last time the Zombie, the Vampire, the Pirate, the Viking & the Siren performed together. "End of an era tour" 😎Cheers from Portland, OR! 🍻
Another fun reaction. Glad to see you reacting to Tarja (pronounced Tar-ya). She is an amazing performer. I have had the good fortunate to see both Floor and Tarja live and they are simply two of the best.
❤Tarja❤conheço a banda desde o começo,com esta cantora e nao ha melhor,agora está a solo e continua única.....gostas da Floor mas a mim nao me diz nada....a voz de Tarja é única e seu estilo.......ouve mais Tarja.....walking in the air.....ghost love to the score,siren,swantheart,esta musica é linda.❤Tarja❤
Marko - BEAST of a Phantom! (2004) Some people ask who is/was your favourite Nightwish singer, more than a few answer Marko! Tarja's last show with Nightwish! If you want to see a very young Tuomas going off (TRULY) centre stage with a young, passionate Tarja and the guys - "Fantasmic Part 3" - live! th-cam.com/video/b9JMPZlrlak/w-d-xo.html
Yes, you are absolutely right. It really does sound weird when someone else is singing for them. But I admit that Anette and Floor both have had their moments too😉
This was I believe in 2005. Her last concert before she was released from the band. Just so you know she and Floor are still friends. The drummer went to the back office because he suffered from severe insomnia and migraines so he could have been in pain or in preparation.
Floor posted an Instagram chat on her channel from about 2020 she had with Tarja. Talked about things they were both doing, and Floor's thinking about a possible solo career in addition to Nightwish.
They built their sound and style essentially around Tarja and her voice. So the Nightwish Floor inherited was Tarja's Night wish. I'm convinced that if they didn't build from the beginning with Tarja, there wouldn't be the Nightwish everyone has come to know and love. Because they were originally going to be a folk metal band, which probably would have been quality anyway given their talent, but it would not be the more Gothic symphonic metal they became.
Nope, not metal. In the summer of 1996, Tuomas was sitting around a campfire with friends and he wanted to capture the atmosphere in "acoustic campfire music". In the autumn, he brought Empuu along and they recorded the first demos. The two were not happy with the result and brought Tarja in. Her voice then exploded the concept and the Nightwish sound was born.
Actually you have that partly right, Tuomas writes songs for the singer whoever that singer might be, Tarja Anette Marco Troy or Floor... He states this in almost every interview The only reason he built the original around Tarja is because she was the singer at the time.. and also back in the day Marco sang all the gritty parts that Tarja couldn't (in any song) but Floor sings all of it now because Tarja can't with her style of voice, her deep accent and her strong vibrato. But she still got a tremendous voice regardless!
@@Mischnikvideos Tumoas has mentioned numerous times his writing stems from his passions of the sea and of fantasy books - like Disney books, hense the lyrics like "Peter Pan" & "Alice" amongst others...
@@myspacewolfThey turned into a metal band because Tarja’s voice was too big for acoustic folk music. If they would have started with Floor, or anyone else, they would have stayed an acoustic folk band. Marko wasn’t even in the original line up, so a Toumas sang on the first album. Tapio Wilska was on the next two albums. Marko didn’t join the band until their fourth album. Toumas always wanted a male vocalist. Hence, that’s why Troy is still singing on the albums even though Marko’s gone.
Floor and Henk Poort's version at Beste Zangers (2019 Dutch TV show) is well worth a watch. It's not "Nightwish", just the two of them with a house band (Henk Port is a well known Dutch opera/musicals singer). Both Floor and Henk do solo songs on that show which you might also want to check out. It was so well received that Nightwish reprised the song in 2022 with Henk as guest singer. Floor's solo shows have featured it too, again with Henk as guest. It's definitely a fan favourite.
I consider that performance Nightwish adjacent and my favorite of the three "Nightwish" performances. They are clearly using the Nightwish arrangement, just not as metal. More hard rock/musical theater. I absolutely love Floor's vocals in that version. Definitely in a musical theater style with more of a straight tone and lot more ornamentation in her runs, especially in that famous last section. Tarjas's big wobbly vibrato in that section isn't to my taste.
So bitter sweet with this. This was my introduction to Nightwish. Then the turmoil of the "open letter". Right after this concert. Best research for poet and pendulum is from the man himself. Toumas talks about it in a interview. Short but to the point.
I would also like to recommend the song Wishmaster, the same concert. That’s truly a song for Tarja. And also Anette (the second singer) has some songs, that suits her voice just perfectly. I like all the NW singers! No need to compare apples and oranges. 😄
This was truly an end of an era. Everyone on stage, except Tarja, knew she was being fired from the band after this show. Also a good section of Nightwish fans think it is strange to see some one else besides Tarja be the lead singer.
The original Queen, face and voice of Nighwish, when it was magical, majestic with class, unique rich voice with high quality and power. If it wasn't for Tarja's voice there wouldn't have been a Nightwish nor other singers for many that know the history of this band. All the popular songs everyone loves were written in Tarja's era for her voice and are the originals, later on they were reconstructed to fit other singers voices and not the originals. You don't get songs written now as when they were written in Tarja's era. Originals will remain Legends always and forever. Thank you for reacting to Tarja and for us fans who were listening to this band from the beginning. Tarja and Marko are legends with Legendary voices when combined, it's a powerhouse, the best era. You gained a new subscriber ☺💖👍
Enjoyed your reaction! This is my second favorite "Nightwish" performance of this song. My favorite is with Floor Jansen and Henk Poort in 2019 from the Dutch singing show Beste Zangers. It is not with Nightwish but the house band, The Marcel Fisser Band, uses a less metal version of Tuomas's arrangement. Beste Zangers is a show where famous Dutch singers from different genres of music are brought together and each show one singer is in the spotlight and the other singers sings songs from the artists catalog or that are meaningful to them except for teh last show where they sing duets. Henk Poort is a famous Dutch musical theater star and was best known for being the original Phantom in the first Dutch production of the Phantom of the Opera. Floor saw him as a teenager in that role and always loved the song and a big reason for her doing the show was to meet Henk. She asked him to sing Phantom with and he agreed as long as the next time Nightwish was in Amsterdam he would get to sing it with Floor and Nightwish. That performance is my favorite because of Floor's choice to sing in a more musical theater style with more straight tone and her beautiful ornamentations in her runs. For me, the best part of this performance is Marko. He totally steals the show with his gritty, creepy Phantom. I think there are other Nightwish songs that show off Tara's beautiful dark enchanting voice. Songs like The Siren, Planet Hell, Bless the Child, Wish I had an Angel, Nemo and Forever Yours. I especially love the music videos for Nemo and Sleeping Sun (2005 video with Tarja in a beautiful dress striding across a medieval battlefield like a Valkyrie) with her. Funny you mention their connection. I think that was them being professionals. There was already some big rifts between the band and Tarja and they fired her right after this concert. Yes that was a Jack Sparrow doll on Tuomas's keyboard. Tuomas does bear a striking resemblance to Jack Sparrow and Tuomas is a big fan of Hans Zimmer who was one of the composers for the soundtrack for the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Don't know if Tuomas did that by his choice or if the roadies did it for fun and he thought it was cool.
RE: the 'age' of the video/ Please remember, most of the videos you've seen of Floor were from 2013/Wacken. This video is 2005, just 8 years earlier. Age catches up with us all (I'm a prime example), but Tarja has arguably done better than most. And her voice still carries that power. Tarja's versions of Nemo and I Wish I had an angel should be must views. (the non-live versions are a bit dated, but still an important part in understanding how the band was being positioned. It is just a crime that they did not get US airplay back then (and now as well, dammit).
Don't forget Sleeping Sun. Tarja is sometimes called a one trick pony but if that trick is this impressive that's totally ok. After all Van Gogh could also "only"paint one style.
Unfortunately that is not as good as this verson. It lacks the passion and fling. And Tarja’s voice suites better for this song than Floor’s though Floor is a great singer too. And Marko ❤️.
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Quick tip: When looking for information about a video - don't just look at the title. Expand the information below the title and You will often get the date and year. This is the info from this specific video: ""The Phantom Of The Opera" taken from END OF AN ERA. Recorded at our live performance at the Hartwall Arena in Helsinki, Finland, on October 21, 2005, the final concert of a long worldwide tour for our album Once."
This was her last performance with nightwish if you watch the entire concert you will notice the band members looking at each other they know what's going to happen after the show.
Tarja and Marko have presented this again after 18 years: th-cam.com/video/PzvGsA2d9C8/w-d-xo.html and this in Savonlinna Finland: th-cam.com/video/Ap5gi-I6bfI/w-d-xo.html
Jukka was dealing with a migraine during this show. He dealt with migraines and insomnia during his playing days and is the reason he stepped down as drummer for Nightwish. You can also see it during "High Hopes" from this same concert.
@@myspacewolf I would not call it that. Kai and Jukka are good friends and learning from each other. While touring Kai's been Jukka's drum tech and vice versa. It's important when you do a big show you just know your kit is set up exactly the way you want it. And of course, when you learn new tricks: sharing is caring...
If you've never heard the Andrew Lloyd Webber version i wouldn't bother now, because it's nothing compared to this 😂😂😂 THIS is how the original should have sounded. For Poet and the Pendulum just to warn you the lyrics are VERY dark, and typically quite cryptic. The live version from Wembley is my favourite metal performance of all time. It's absolute perfection in every single way possible. For performances with Tarja i recommend Deep Silent Complete, Swanheart and Walking in The Air (all Live Wishes to Eternity, the latter being a cover of the main title from the British animated short Christmas movie The Snowman), Wishmaster, Nemo and Sleeping Sun (all Live End of an Era - same concert as Phantom you just heard)
Best version of this song ever! This was how i first heard of Nightwish back then. Loved this version but never followed them. Rediscovered them a couple of years watching my first reaction video ever of any music of GLS. Floor hooked me ever since. Tarja is great and very talented.
This was the last concert of a long tour, and both Tarja and Jukka (the drummer) were ill. Also, you mentioned the bond between the members? Everyone except Tarja knew she was going to be fired after the show and Marko was definitely part of that (she'd told them she was going to quit after the next album but they didn't want to drag it out). They hadn't been getting along for a while, so the bond you see is stagecraft. However, they have made peace since.
2005. The final show with Tarja. Yup. that is ole Jack Sparrow. Tuomas is a big film fan. Lots of documentaries. There is context to understand what the PNP is all about. It is a very personal and emotional song for Tuomas and everyone in Nightwish. With the back story will come the understanding of the imagery and poetic metaphors used in the lyrics. It is a song that is very much like a movie or musical play. It tells a poetic story of tragedy and redemption. A band is like a marriage and when it goes bad it can be quite devastating.
This was October 21, 2005, Tarja’s (TAR’-ee-ah, or TAR’-ya) very last show with the band. They handed her “the letter” immediately after, and also made it public online.
For Poet and the Pendulum think how would you feel about firing you best friend since childhood. You had to do it but you can't go to your best friend to share your torment
Hi Lanae. Great new opening titles btw! This was recorded in 2005 and was the very last performance that Tarja (pronounced Tar-ee-ya) ever did with the band. That evening she was sacked by way of an 'open letter' which has caused controversy for years. It's funny that you remarked upon the onstage chemistry between Marko and Tarja - in truth, at that point, Marko and the rest of the band were having great difficulties with her 'Diva' attitude, and this was the root cause of her dismissal. As others have said, the band re-recorded a version in 2022 in Amsterdam with Floor. She has been with the band for Eleven years now, yet there is still a factional enmity between Tarja and Floor fans. Personally, I think it is a ridiculous argument, as Floor replaced Anette, the second singer, NOT Tarja. Anyway, you take care x
I'm always happy to see how you get to know the music of Nightwish. I also came across Nightwish by chance at some point, and today I'm a big fan. Unfortunately, there are no radio stations here in Germany or anywhere else in Europe that play the bands. Only charts that are manipulated by big producers apply here. Sometimes you think that the radio stations only have 10 records. Formation and Origins of Nightwish: Nightwish was formed in 1996 in Kitee, Finland, by Tuomas Holopainen, Emppu Vuorinen, and Tarja Turunen. The band originally started as Holopainen's acoustic music experiment, which quickly evolved into a full-fledged band as they recorded their first demos. This initial lineup was crucial in establishing the unique symphonic metal style that Nightwish is famous for. Key Members: Tuomas Holopainen: Founder and main composer of the band. He plays keyboards and is the creative heart of Nightwish. Tarja Turunen: The original vocalist, known for her powerful, operatic voice, which was a major contribution to the band’s unique sound. She was with the band from 1996 to 2005. Emppu Vuorinen: Guitarist and co-founder of the band, known for his melodic yet powerful guitar style. Marco Hietala: Bassist and vocalist who joined the band in 2001. His gritty vocals and distinctive bass playing further shaped the band's sound. He left the band in 2021. Anette Olzon: Vocalist from 2007 to 2012, who joined the band after Tarja's departure. Floor Jansen: The current vocalist who joined in 2012 and has significantly contributed to the band’s evolving sound. Background of the Band: Nightwish blends elements of symphonic metal with classical music and film score elements. Their music is known for epic, orchestral arrangements, complex compositions, and profound lyrics. The band often draws on literary, mythological, and nature-related themes. Message to the Audience: Through their music, Nightwish aims to convey various messages. Their song themes range from personal experiences and emotions to societal and philosophical issues. Nature and Environmentalism: Songs like "Elan" and "The Greatest Show on Earth" reflect a deep connection to nature and a message of environmental preservation. Human Experience and Emotion: Many songs deal with personal struggles, losses, and triumphs, helping the audience to form an emotional connection with the music. Philosophical and Spiritual Questions: The band also explores deep, existential questions, encouraging reflection on the meaning of life and our place in the universe. Overall, Nightwish seeks to create an emotional and intellectual connection with their audience through their music, encouraging reflection and awareness about the world and human existence.
Jukka, the drummer, left the band because severe health problems concerning sleeping and lack of sleep. During this show he had pretty bad migraine headache. That is why he is like that pretty much between all songs.
Or....perhaps he is just afraid to miss his cue on the clicktrack. It's not just a thing he did in this performance, but he does the same on all other shows.
@@vogel2280That might be it. Although he suffered from migrenes for a long time especially on tours. Bus travel and touring did not help the sleeping problems, that is why he stepped aside from the band.
Yeeeessss... Everybody Fans Of Nightwish Loves TARJA , She's Amazing, She's Always Live In Our Hearts. She's The First Queen Of Symphonic Metal. But GODDESS FLOOR IS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION. THE BEST SINGER IN THIS PLANET!!! You Need To See More From Her. With Nightwish & Is Solo Work
Loved your positive reaction once again. This version is so awesome. I think it’s Marko’s input that sets it apart. It’s such a pity he didn’t do it with Floor. 🔥🔥🔥
Tarja's answer to Nightwish for the Poet and the Pendulum. When you get into the documentaries and what happened there was so much wrong done to Tarja. Enough Song by Tarja Turunen Ego selfish primadonna Dancing in your poisoned cage Thinking that your conscience's clearer If you drink your dreams away Feed your anger to the devil In your self built wishing well Take a swim in muddy waters All the dirt will leave a trail Had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away Masterpiece of treachery Build a wall and make me crumble Just because I am in love Don't you cry now look at all the Dolls and toys that you have got Smashed the mirror of perversion With the dagger that you made Mirror, mirror, is there someone Who can make your day today? Had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away I've had enough symphonies of sorrow Beasts of prey one breath away Masterpiece of treachery Kept my thoughts buried in a box With each shot I still kept it locked You drew a play written with my blood Went ahead just to feed the lot I've had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away I've had enough symphonies of agony Beasts of prey one breath away Masterpiece of treachery th-cam.com/video/4xGbtO9bw-A/w-d-xo.html
@@melicriszoe1 It was jealousy from Tuomas. He clearly had love interest that wasn't mutual. Tarja did the work for Nightwish and also had her beloved man to give attention to that also took her managers role. Tarja was asking what she was worth and because of these things Tuomas wanted her gone. He was too weak to handle the emotional side of it. It is hard to deal with someone new that you are in direct conflict with that is about a girl you are in love with and you lost to him. Tarja was very understanding in her letter and press conference but after using her as the target for Nightwish bitter songs I think she put it strait on this song "Enough".
If interested in some great Tarja era songs, listen to Nemo, Sleeping Sun, Over the Hills and Faraway, Snowman (live version) as well as I wish I had an Angel with Tarja. She is the sound of white snow and clean ice in the dead of the winter, crystal-like waters of the mountain rivers of Lapland and the pale, ageless midnight sun coming trough the leaves of the ancient Finnish forests. Live or album, doesn't matter. With Anette, only listen to studio versions (Amaranth, Storytime). She is great on album, but honestly not great live (when singing Tarja era songs). She is very good live when singing songs that had been written to her instrument, aka her voice.
I'm of such conflicted thoughts about Nightwish sometimes. I love em, have for two decades. But it's like, Floor is without a doubt my favorite singer for them, but i feel like the music Tuomas was writing during Tarja and Anette's tenures is the stuff I wanna listen to most. I think thats why the Wacken show is so perfect to me, personally.
The proper Nightwish version of this song! I love Floor and she has been the perfect frontwoman for Nightwish but this version has no holding back from the singers its crazy and I think that is what makes the song metal! The Floor / Henk version is too controlled and similar to the original and loses it's metal edge because of it.
I partly agree but,did you know that Floor did this song several times before Nightwish,the one she did with "Russel Allen"(symphony x) is the best I have heard for this song." Poto" from Nightwish for me is ,that Marko is the real star,not so much Tarja.😉
@@strabel803 Floor just needs to let her down and sing it, she always seems too controlled which doesn't work as well for me. (Like she loves the song too much) I'm not the biggest fan of the Phantom musical so the Nightwish version of this song appeals to me as it makes it much more interesting and fun. You're right about Marco and a lot dislike this version simply because of his over the top but that makes it for me.
This is the last time she sang with nightwish as the kicked her out after this there is an open letter to her that happened before 2013 the second singer was only there for a short time before floor started
Need to do the 2022 version with Nightvwish and Floor Jansen too. First performance of song since this concert, 17 years later. It's also official live version with famous Dutch singer Henk Port
Siempre es bueno escuchar a Tarja y porque todos se sentian asi es porque ese fue el ultimo concierto antes de que saliera o la expulsaran del grupo. Ya que estas con esto, te recomiendo "Wanderlust" ... y creeme por muy fanatico que seamos de Floor, ningun fanatico de Nigthwish te hablara mal de Tarja. Nightwish Army presente, saludos desde Chile.
Great reaction! Good timing with the pauses and comments. With regards to “Poet and the Pendulum”: of course listen to songs in any order you want, but it definitely adds a LOT to the experience if you understand the backstory to it, which is arguably the band’s most important song. I remember watching one reactor whose very first Nightwish song was Poet, and man that dude was in over his head. But anyways, keep going ,love these !
It´s ok to like Floor and/or her voice better. That doesn´t mean that you can appreciate Tarja. And Anette, even if she gets a lot of hate. Which IN MY OPINION is sooo tragic.
🤩👍💥💯🎼 "Kiitos!!!" ( = Thank You!!!) in the end... "The Poet an The Pendulum" is heavily tight to events which lead in what happened after this particular show, and from my behalf just go ahead and check that out and let the music do the talking(in what way I presume it´s made for)...The rest of it would become clear to you anyways. 🤘😎💙🎶
Tarja is the Queen of Symphonic Metal. You should check out some of her solo songs. Also at least one of the Nightwish songs with Annette Olson. Amaranthe is a great song.
This is a cornerstone of Nightwish‘s history. And the Phantom story of Nightwish does not end here. So, they break up with Tarja after this concert. The stars haven‘t aligned yet for Floor, and Anette becomes Nightwish‘s next singer. Anette has a pop voice and no operatic ability, so Nightwish‘s music has to adapt and gets more poppy. Anette is not so great life, but has the ability to transport the songs through recording; as a result some very good official non-live videos are from Anette“s time (Amaranth, Storytime). But Nightwish is a live band and does world tours, and in 2012 they just can‘t work anymore with Anette and separate during the US tour. In the mean time, Floor‘s band After Forever has broken up; she has been through burnout and thought about quitting music. She is at her sisters wedding when she gets a phonecall from an unknown number. It‘s Tuomas, and he asks if Floor can jump in as singer to finish their world tour, and by the way „Can you learn the setlist in 48 hours?“ There is a video documentary with that title you should watch. Fast forward to 2019. Floor is a Metal world star, but virtually unknown in her home country the.Netherlands. So in 2019 she enters a tv show called „Beste Zangers“ (best singers). It is a.show where a handful of singers sit together and interpret songs for each other in a small intimate setting. Each of them has an evening where each of the others interprets one song, either from their repertoire or a song which has special meaning for them. The first evening is for Henk Poort. Henk is one of the most well known opera and musical theatre performers of the Netherlands; he was the first „official“ Phantom of the Dutch production and Floor idolized him when she was young. So when he asks of anyone has prepared something operatic, Floor jumps up and performs „Vilja Lied“. They hit it off artistically, and at the end of the show they perform „Phantom of the Opera“ together. Henk extracts a promise from Floor to perform that song together with Nightwish. Then Covid strikes; all concerts are canceled; Marko leaves the band without ever singing Phantom with Floor. (Sob!) After Covid, tours slowly resume. In 2022 Nightwish performs in Amsterdam during their world tour. At that concert, without prior announcement, a very special duett is added to the set list with a special guest performer… Cue the Nightwish Army completely losing it! ;-) And, yes, please watch all the videos I mentioned here.
Now that you have heard in the comments about the rift forming in the band and that this was Tarja’s last show, you should read the open letter given to Tarja after this show as well as her response. This will provide more context to The Poet and the Pendulum, as Tuomas addresses the fallout and responses from that fallout from the fans. Read those letters, then I would say to react to the video for Bye Bye Beautiful (which is Tuomas’ goodbye letter to Tarja), Master Passion Greed (Tuomas’ letter to Tarja’s husband, whom the band mainly blamed for the change in Tarja’s behavior), then the Poet and the Pendulum (which is Tuomas’ reply to the fans who believed he was to blame for the entire fiasco. That will provide context, especially with the introduction to Anette.
Love the video thanx. If you have not done so already, check out The Disturbed and their version of The Sound Of Silence, it is awesome! Totally the opposite of how Simon and Garfunckle sang it....
The Poet and the Pendulum deals w the devastating emotional crisis of (primarily) Tuomas after the firing of Tarja. Go to the Nightwish wiki or website and read both open letters. There's also a 30min documentary of Tuomas going home to his parents' after the firing, but b4 writing TPATP... it shows you how dark his world was at that time. It's in Finnish w subtitles... Maan Maniot. Tarja was his childhood friend, having to fire her bc of her developed diva behavior was very painful.
2005 was this concert "End of an Era". Check Tarja's songs first and then compare to Anette or Floor version. Tarja's era most suit better for Tarja. Of course not all and Floor does some very well and the production is so much better also that has nothing to do with singing. Anette's era Floor does better in my opinion but studio Anette still was very good.
The bond between Marko and Tarja interesting one, given that he, like the rest of the band, all signed the letter sacking her, handed to her after this very concert. Today, and over the past few months, Marko and Tarja have been collaborating on new music and touring together. All is forgiven, it seems. Oh, and do the official Nightwish version of Phantom with Floor and Henk Poort from Ziggo Dome in 2022 - it's an interesting comparison as both versions are excellent: th-cam.com/video/TM23gaT4zkY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MC6o7Pou9hhmZJIK
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Each time that i see Emppu crying on the end riff i get the instant chills & tears ( 6:20 ). He know very well that it's the last time he perform this song with Tarja & you can see very well that he is living this moment at maxim level. Since my firest listen of Nightwish - Wishmater ( album from 2000 with Tarja) i been a Nightwish fan. I was also a fan of After Forver, first Floor Jansen band. But now that Floor joined Nightwish, not only that i'm a fan; it became my favorite band.
Marko sings solo at the same show "High Hopes" its a classic Pink Floyd Tribute cover. Marko and the boys are in their musical element while Tarja is changing clothes.
Good idea, it´s just so great tribute to wonderful PF song!
I was so mesmerized, it took me several times to notice that Jukka was close to collapsing over the drums, but he kept on. That is what I call a deviation. But I would not be so harsh about her changing clothes - after all, it was a pause that should have made her less capricious. Though, interesting, what would have happened, if they had parted their ways earlier.
@@ievazagante5527 David gilmore High Hopes live 2001 is what really should be heard.
@@danielholta5721 I have news for you, you can listen to both. 😇
Did se that tour in stockholm sweden 2005..just few days before this was recorded in helsinki finland..about one month later tarja left the band.
The concert was truly unforgettable....
Tarja ❤ I hope you'll do more with her and keep an open heart & mind
Tarja and Marko really brought that gothic energy to the band, I love this era! Notice how Tarja's vibrato in the last section matches the exact beat of Jukka's drums? Amazing amazing 🙏🏽❣
I know especially newer fans love the newer era the most, which i get, but the previous two eras were fantastic as well and Tarja, Tuomas and Emppu made Nightwish, they built the foundations and launched it into success within just a few years ❣
This was Nightwish's last concert with Tarja, in 2005. The concert was recorded on DVD under the name "End Of An Era". With certainty, the artistic performance that all the members of the band achieved in this concert is unique, but the "rift" between Tarja and the rest of the band was already deep, after dissensions accumulated over the years. I think you already understand the context that generated "The Poet And The Pendulum", and I think it would be interesting to see some of their documentaries.
GENERAL GABE!!! Luv Ya Bro!!
That bond between them was pretty strained. Especially between Marko and Tarja. That´s why it is amazing that they found each other again many years after and are now touring together.
This concert was in 2005. And the bond you saw between her and the band was already broken at this point - she was fired right after the concert. Jukka hunkering over the drums or the tears in Emppus face (at 4:43) might be related to that. Everyone except her knew that it was the last performance together.
Glad you have now met Tarja, don't forget Anette the 2nd singer either. All 3 have delivered masterpieces and all 3 are different. A very different Nightwish sound is Slow Love Slow with Anette at Montreaux Jazz Festival Live. Enjoy all 3 of the singers. Tarja and Floor are old friends so there is no rivalry.
I still remember how devastating it was when Tarja got fired. Nightwish was already one of my favourites. I didn't know if they will perform ever again. And with whom? Then came all of the fuss in media. If you want to hear more Nightwish with Tarja, I suggest her version of "Ghost Love Score", "Sleeping Sun", or "Nemo".She is still the mother of symphonic metal. Good reaction.
All due respect to Her Majesty, The Queen, Floor, of the Valkyries; to me, this piece works best with the original voices, both Tarja and Marko.
Tarja's (tar-ya, with rolling r) voice inspired Tuomas to write the way he does. Nightwish was supposed to be an acoustic band until Tarja opened her mouth. Those long, soaring, dark operatic vocals over the symphonic sounds and metal band was so unique and nothing like we ever heard before. Female vocalists in metal were rare, and something like this didn't really exist elsewhere. If you check out Swanheart from From Wishes To Eternity concert, you'll see baby Nightwish from 24 years ago. Even Marko has not joined the band yet. I and so many others my age grew up to adulthood listening to Tarja's voice and when she was kicked out so many of us were completely devastated, also about the way it was done, which was a bad call from the band. It was such a big deal that even the prime minister of Finland gave comments about it. The whole mess was all over the press. People thought the band was finished, because nobody could replace Tarja. It was a big deal. I'm happy how everything turned out in the end though but it's been a rollercoaster.
This was in 2005 - Helsinki, Finland. I was 18 at the time, I'm 37 now. Beautiful country, beautiful venue. Graduation present. This was the last time the Zombie, the Vampire, the Pirate, the Viking & the Siren performed together. "End of an era tour" 😎Cheers from Portland, OR! 🍻
Here's a suggestion: Beauty of the beast. It's so hauntingly beautiful, a song of hopeless hope.
👍👍This is my favorite version of this song, including the Blu-ray movie of Phantom of the Opera. The vocals of "Marco" adds so much to the vibe. 🖖❤
Planet Hell from this show it's AMAZING!! I'm loving your reactions
Another fun reaction. Glad to see you reacting to Tarja (pronounced Tar-ya). She is an amazing performer. I have had the good fortunate to see both Floor and Tarja live and they are simply two of the best.
❤Tarja❤conheço a banda desde o começo,com esta cantora e nao ha melhor,agora está a solo e continua única.....gostas da Floor mas a mim nao me diz nada....a voz de Tarja é única e seu estilo.......ouve mais Tarja.....walking in the air.....ghost love to the score,siren,swantheart,esta musica é linda.❤Tarja❤
@@kimpires dont like tarja
@@fredverkerk838Why ya here then?
@@fredverkerk838 i love Tarja
@@nicholew350 is true....
8:25 If you want to listen to Poet, listen to it. It's a great song. It doesn't need behind the scenes drama from 20 years ago to be a great song.
Marko - BEAST of a Phantom! (2004) Some people ask who is/was your favourite Nightwish singer, more than a few answer Marko! Tarja's last show with Nightwish! If you want to see a very young Tuomas going off (TRULY) centre stage with a young, passionate Tarja and the guys - "Fantasmic Part 3" - live! th-cam.com/video/b9JMPZlrlak/w-d-xo.html
I LOVE Tarja’s and Marko’s version a lot!
Yes, you are absolutely right. It really does sound weird when someone else is singing for them. But I admit that Anette and Floor both have had their moments too😉
This moment in 2005 was the last time that they played this song live on stage iuntil 17 years later with Floor at the controls
Marko and Tarja are together "Karjurock" -festival in Finland this summer (20.07).
This was I believe in 2005. Her last concert before she was released from the band. Just so you know she and Floor are still friends. The drummer went to the back office because he suffered from severe insomnia and migraines so he could have been in pain or in preparation.
Floor posted an Instagram chat on her channel from about 2020 she had with Tarja. Talked about things they were both doing, and Floor's thinking about a possible solo career in addition to Nightwish.
@@ecbftlthat she has. She even did a full set of her own music and a full set of Nightwish songs at pinkpop last year.
Alot of theory, that poet and pendulum. Was written about.the firing of Tarja. And how tuomas felt
They built their sound and style essentially around Tarja and her voice. So the Nightwish Floor inherited was Tarja's Night wish. I'm convinced that if they didn't build from the beginning with Tarja, there wouldn't be the Nightwish everyone has come to know and love. Because they were originally going to be a folk metal band, which probably would have been quality anyway given their talent, but it would not be the more Gothic symphonic metal they became.
Nope, not metal. In the summer of 1996, Tuomas was sitting around a campfire with friends and he wanted to capture the atmosphere in "acoustic campfire music". In the autumn, he brought Empuu along and they recorded the first demos. The two were not happy with the result and brought Tarja in. Her voice then exploded the concept and the Nightwish sound was born.
Actually you have that partly right, Tuomas writes songs for the singer whoever that singer might be, Tarja Anette Marco Troy or Floor... He states this in almost every interview The only reason he built the original around Tarja is because she was the singer at the time.. and also back in the day Marco sang all the gritty parts that Tarja couldn't (in any song) but Floor sings all of it now because Tarja can't with her style of voice, her deep accent and her strong vibrato. But she still got a tremendous voice regardless!
Ich würde es nicht Gothic nennen, weil schon damals Hans Zimmer sein Vorbild war. Es ging immer Richtung Filmmusik.
@@Mischnikvideos Tumoas has mentioned numerous times his writing stems from his passions of the sea and of fantasy books - like Disney books, hense the lyrics like "Peter Pan" & "Alice" amongst others...
@@myspacewolfThey turned into a metal band because Tarja’s voice was too big for acoustic folk music. If they would have started with Floor, or anyone else, they would have stayed an acoustic folk band. Marko wasn’t even in the original line up, so a Toumas sang on the first album. Tapio Wilska was on the next two albums. Marko didn’t join the band until their fourth album. Toumas always wanted a male vocalist. Hence, that’s why Troy is still singing on the albums even though Marko’s gone.
I'm surprised I didn't see this mentioned yet but an important part of Nightwish from back in the day was that Tuomas had a HUGE crush on Tarja
You must see the floor in best zengers with Enk port, the original singer of The Phantom of the opera.... Epic... See please.. ❤
This is beyond 👏
Floor and Henk Poort's version at Beste Zangers (2019 Dutch TV show) is well worth a watch. It's not "Nightwish", just the two of them with a house band (Henk Port is a well known Dutch opera/musicals singer). Both Floor and Henk do solo songs on that show which you might also want to check out. It was so well received that Nightwish reprised the song in 2022 with Henk as guest singer. Floor's solo shows have featured it too, again with Henk as guest. It's definitely a fan favourite.
I consider that performance Nightwish adjacent and my favorite of the three "Nightwish" performances. They are clearly using the Nightwish arrangement, just not as metal. More hard rock/musical theater. I absolutely love Floor's vocals in that version. Definitely in a musical theater style with more of a straight tone and lot more ornamentation in her runs, especially in that famous last section. Tarjas's big wobbly vibrato in that section isn't to my taste.
Tarja.. Queen of symphonic metal ❤❤❤
The Phanton of Opera its a classic music from Opera Concert by Andrew Loyd Weber, cover by Nigthwish
So bitter sweet with this. This was my introduction to Nightwish. Then the turmoil of the "open letter". Right after this concert. Best research for poet and pendulum is from the man himself. Toumas talks about it in a interview. Short but to the point.
Link to that interview?
Tarja Turunen & Marko Hietala. Kiitos from Finland.
I would also like to recommend the song Wishmaster, the same concert. That’s truly a song for Tarja. And also Anette (the second singer) has some songs, that suits her voice just perfectly. I like all the NW singers! No need to compare apples and oranges. 😄
Marko Hietala and Tarja Turunen are together this summer "Karjurock" festival 20.07 in Finland.
This was truly an end of an era. Everyone on stage, except Tarja, knew she was being fired from the band after this show. Also a good section of Nightwish fans think it is strange to see some one else besides Tarja be the lead singer.
The original Queen, face and voice of Nighwish, when it was magical, majestic with class, unique rich voice with high quality and power. If it wasn't for Tarja's voice there wouldn't have been a Nightwish nor other singers for many that know the history of this band. All the popular songs everyone loves were written in Tarja's era for her voice and are the originals, later on they were reconstructed to fit other singers voices and not the originals. You don't get songs written now as when they were written in Tarja's era. Originals will remain Legends always and forever. Thank you for reacting to Tarja and for us fans who were listening to this band from the beginning. Tarja and Marko are legends with Legendary voices when combined, it's a powerhouse, the best era. You gained a new subscriber ☺💖👍
Great reaction, pls same concert Tuomas' favorite Creek Mary's blood (with lyrics) or Planet hell
🤘😎🤘
Thanks, great journey of you
Enjoyed your reaction! This is my second favorite "Nightwish" performance of this song. My favorite is with Floor Jansen and Henk Poort in 2019 from the Dutch singing show Beste Zangers. It is not with Nightwish but the house band, The Marcel Fisser Band, uses a less metal version of Tuomas's arrangement. Beste Zangers is a show where famous Dutch singers from different genres of music are brought together and each show one singer is in the spotlight and the other singers sings songs from the artists catalog or that are meaningful to them except for teh last show where they sing duets. Henk Poort is a famous Dutch musical theater star and was best known for being the original Phantom in the first Dutch production of the Phantom of the Opera. Floor saw him as a teenager in that role and always loved the song and a big reason for her doing the show was to meet Henk. She asked him to sing Phantom with and he agreed as long as the next time Nightwish was in Amsterdam he would get to sing it with Floor and Nightwish. That performance is my favorite because of Floor's choice to sing in a more musical theater style with more straight tone and her beautiful ornamentations in her runs.
For me, the best part of this performance is Marko. He totally steals the show with his gritty, creepy Phantom. I think there are other Nightwish songs that show off Tara's beautiful dark enchanting voice. Songs like The Siren, Planet Hell, Bless the Child, Wish I had an Angel, Nemo and Forever Yours. I especially love the music videos for Nemo and Sleeping Sun (2005 video with Tarja in a beautiful dress striding across a medieval battlefield like a Valkyrie) with her.
Funny you mention their connection. I think that was them being professionals. There was already some big rifts between the band and Tarja and they fired her right after this concert. Yes that was a Jack Sparrow doll on Tuomas's keyboard. Tuomas does bear a striking resemblance to Jack Sparrow and Tuomas is a big fan of Hans Zimmer who was one of the composers for the soundtrack for the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Don't know if Tuomas did that by his choice or if the roadies did it for fun and he thought it was cool.
RE: the 'age' of the video/
Please remember, most of the videos you've seen of Floor were from 2013/Wacken. This video is 2005, just 8 years earlier.
Age catches up with us all (I'm a prime example), but Tarja has arguably done better than most. And her voice still carries that power.
Tarja's versions of Nemo and I Wish I had an angel should be must views. (the non-live versions are a bit dated, but still an important part in understanding how the band was being positioned. It is just a crime that they did not get US airplay back then (and now as well, dammit).
Don't forget Sleeping Sun. Tarja is sometimes called a one trick pony but if that trick is this impressive that's totally ok. After all Van Gogh could also "only"paint one style.
In 2022 Nightwish did this one more time with Floor and guest Henk Poort .
Unfortunately that is not as good as this verson. It lacks the passion and fling. And Tarja’s voice suites better for this song than Floor’s though Floor is a great singer too. And Marko ❤️.
Quick tip:
When looking for information about a video - don't just look at the title. Expand the information below the title and You will often get the date and year.
This is the info from this specific video:
""The Phantom Of The Opera" taken from END OF AN ERA. Recorded at our live performance at the Hartwall Arena in Helsinki, Finland, on October 21, 2005, the final concert of a long worldwide tour for our album Once."
Amiamo sia Tarja che Floor. . Ciao dall' Italia
This was her last performance with nightwish if you watch the entire concert you will notice the band members looking at each other they know what's going to happen after the show.
"Oh! A Nightwish Phantom of the Opera -reaction! Starts video, intro, la la laa, Tarja singing, Marco singing ... A CAT ❤️"
Tarja and Marko have presented this again after 18 years:
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and this in Savonlinna Finland: th-cam.com/video/Ap5gi-I6bfI/w-d-xo.html
Seen Tarja twice including in this concert. Her name is said like TarYa
Jukka was dealing with a migraine during this show. He dealt with migraines and insomnia during his playing days and is the reason he stepped down as drummer for Nightwish. You can also see it during "High Hopes" from this same concert.
Did you know Kai was his instructor?
@@myspacewolf I would not call it that. Kai and Jukka are good friends and learning from each other. While touring Kai's been Jukka's drum tech and vice versa. It's important when you do a big show you just know your kit is set up exactly the way you want it. And of course, when you learn new tricks: sharing is caring...
@@vogel2280 You can call it what you want to call it I'm going to call it what it actually was
"That's Captain...CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow."
If you've never heard the Andrew Lloyd Webber version i wouldn't bother now, because it's nothing compared to this 😂😂😂 THIS is how the original should have sounded. For Poet and the Pendulum just to warn you the lyrics are VERY dark, and typically quite cryptic. The live version from Wembley is my favourite metal performance of all time. It's absolute perfection in every single way possible.
For performances with Tarja i recommend Deep Silent Complete, Swanheart and Walking in The Air (all Live Wishes to Eternity, the latter being a cover of the main title from the British animated short Christmas movie The Snowman), Wishmaster, Nemo and Sleeping Sun (all Live End of an Era - same concert as Phantom you just heard)
Queen TARJA!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Best version of this song ever! This was how i first heard of Nightwish back then. Loved this version but never followed them. Rediscovered them a couple of years watching my first reaction video ever of any music of GLS. Floor hooked me ever since. Tarja is great and very talented.
This was the last concert of a long tour, and both Tarja and Jukka (the drummer) were ill. Also, you mentioned the bond between the members? Everyone except Tarja knew she was going to be fired after the show and Marko was definitely part of that (she'd told them she was going to quit after the next album but they didn't want to drag it out). They hadn't been getting along for a while, so the bond you see is stagecraft. However, they have made peace since.
2005. The final show with Tarja. Yup. that is ole Jack Sparrow. Tuomas is a big film fan. Lots of documentaries. There is context to understand what the PNP is all about. It is a very personal and emotional song for Tuomas and everyone in Nightwish. With the back story will come the understanding of the imagery and poetic metaphors used in the lyrics. It is a song that is very much like a movie or musical play. It tells a poetic story of tragedy and redemption. A band is like a marriage and when it goes bad it can be quite devastating.
React to Tarja "supremacy" ( in milan)
This is The Night They Fired The Soprano. Tarja's debatably greatest, and last performance with Nightwish
This was October 21, 2005, Tarja’s (TAR’-ee-ah, or TAR’-ya) very last show with the band. They handed her “the letter” immediately after, and also made it public online.
Was working in this concert. Such an emotional rollercoaster whole night ☹️🔥❤️🤘
Jack Sparrow doll was band's inside joke during the Once world tour. Tuomas' keyboard technician and right-hand man Tero put in there.
For Poet and the Pendulum think how would you feel about firing you best friend since childhood. You had to do it but you can't go to your best friend to share your torment
Tarja owns Phantom, Nemo and Sleeping Sun and Wish I had an Angel.
Tarja owns all her five albums with this band!
I like both - but for different reasons.
Hi Lanae. Great new opening titles btw! This was recorded in 2005 and was the very last performance that Tarja (pronounced Tar-ee-ya) ever did with the band. That evening she was sacked by way of an 'open letter' which has caused controversy for years. It's funny that you remarked upon the onstage chemistry between Marko and Tarja - in truth, at that point, Marko and the rest of the band were having great difficulties with her 'Diva' attitude, and this was the root cause of her dismissal. As others have said, the band re-recorded a version in 2022 in Amsterdam with Floor. She has been with the band for Eleven years now, yet there is still a factional enmity between Tarja and Floor fans. Personally, I think it is a ridiculous argument, as Floor replaced Anette, the second singer, NOT Tarja. Anyway, you take care x
I'm always happy to see how you get to know the music of Nightwish. I also came across Nightwish by chance at some point, and today I'm a big fan. Unfortunately, there are no radio stations here in Germany or anywhere else in Europe that play the bands. Only charts that are manipulated by big producers apply here. Sometimes you think that the radio stations only have 10 records.
Formation and Origins of Nightwish:
Nightwish was formed in 1996 in Kitee, Finland, by Tuomas Holopainen, Emppu Vuorinen, and Tarja Turunen. The band originally started as Holopainen's acoustic music experiment, which quickly evolved into a full-fledged band as they recorded their first demos. This initial lineup was crucial in establishing the unique symphonic metal style that Nightwish is famous for.
Key Members:
Tuomas Holopainen: Founder and main composer of the band. He plays keyboards and is the creative heart of Nightwish.
Tarja Turunen: The original vocalist, known for her powerful, operatic voice, which was a major contribution to the band’s unique sound. She was with the band from 1996 to 2005.
Emppu Vuorinen: Guitarist and co-founder of the band, known for his melodic yet powerful guitar style.
Marco Hietala: Bassist and vocalist who joined the band in 2001. His gritty vocals and distinctive bass playing further shaped the band's sound. He left the band in 2021.
Anette Olzon: Vocalist from 2007 to 2012, who joined the band after Tarja's departure.
Floor Jansen: The current vocalist who joined in 2012 and has significantly contributed to the band’s evolving sound.
Background of the Band:
Nightwish blends elements of symphonic metal with classical music and film score elements. Their music is known for epic, orchestral arrangements, complex compositions, and profound lyrics. The band often draws on literary, mythological, and nature-related themes.
Message to the Audience:
Through their music, Nightwish aims to convey various messages. Their song themes range from personal experiences and emotions to societal and philosophical issues.
Nature and Environmentalism: Songs like "Elan" and "The Greatest Show on Earth" reflect a deep connection to nature and a message of environmental preservation.
Human Experience and Emotion: Many songs deal with personal struggles, losses, and triumphs, helping the audience to form an emotional connection with the music.
Philosophical and Spiritual Questions: The band also explores deep, existential questions, encouraging reflection on the meaning of life and our place in the universe.
Overall, Nightwish seeks to create an emotional and intellectual connection with their audience through their music, encouraging reflection and awareness about the world and human existence.
Jukka, the drummer, left the band because severe health problems concerning sleeping and lack of sleep. During this show he had pretty bad migraine headache. That is why he is like that pretty much between all songs.
Or....perhaps he is just afraid to miss his cue on the clicktrack. It's not just a thing he did in this performance, but he does the same on all other shows.
@@vogel2280That might be it. Although he suffered from migrenes for a long time especially on tours. Bus travel and touring did not help the sleeping problems, that is why he stepped aside from the band.
So you have to do Floor’s version. I don’t care who sings it, it’s all great
Great show try song nemo wth Tarj live version of official video.
Yeeeessss...
Everybody Fans Of Nightwish Loves TARJA , She's Amazing, She's Always Live In Our Hearts. She's The First Queen Of Symphonic Metal.
But GODDESS FLOOR IS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION.
THE BEST SINGER IN THIS PLANET!!!
You Need To See More From Her.
With Nightwish & Is Solo Work
Loved your positive reaction once again. This version is so awesome. I think it’s Marko’s input that sets it apart. It’s such a pity he didn’t do it with Floor. 🔥🔥🔥
Tarja's answer to Nightwish for the Poet and the Pendulum. When you get into the documentaries and what happened there was so much wrong done to Tarja.
Enough
Song by Tarja Turunen
Ego selfish primadonna
Dancing in your poisoned cage
Thinking that your conscience's clearer
If you drink your dreams away
Feed your anger to the devil
In your self built wishing well
Take a swim in muddy waters
All the dirt will leave a trail
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
Build a wall and make me crumble
Just because I am in love
Don't you cry now look at all the
Dolls and toys that you have got
Smashed the mirror of perversion
With the dagger that you made
Mirror, mirror, is there someone
Who can make your day today?
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
I've had enough symphonies of sorrow
Beasts of prey one breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
Kept my thoughts buried in a box
With each shot I still kept it locked
You drew a play written with my blood
Went ahead just to feed the lot
I've had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
I've had enough symphonies of agony
Beasts of prey one breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
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So powerfull song. I really like it!❤
The documentary End of an Era is very heavy, I don't know how Tarja could endure those unpleasant things.
@@melicriszoe1 It was jealousy from Tuomas. He clearly had love interest that wasn't mutual. Tarja did the work for Nightwish and also had her beloved man to give attention to that also took her managers role. Tarja was asking what she was worth and because of these things Tuomas wanted her gone. He was too weak to handle the emotional side of it. It is hard to deal with someone new that you are in direct conflict with that is about a girl you are in love with and you lost to him. Tarja was very understanding in her letter and press conference but after using her as the target for Nightwish bitter songs I think she put it strait on this song "Enough".
If interested in some great Tarja era songs, listen to Nemo, Sleeping Sun, Over the Hills and Faraway, Snowman (live version) as well as I wish I had an Angel with Tarja. She is the sound of white snow and clean ice in the dead of the winter, crystal-like waters of the mountain rivers of Lapland and the pale, ageless midnight sun coming trough the leaves of the ancient Finnish forests. Live or album, doesn't matter. With Anette, only listen to studio versions (Amaranth, Storytime). She is great on album, but honestly not great live (when singing Tarja era songs). She is very good live when singing songs that had been written to her instrument, aka her voice.
I'm of such conflicted thoughts about Nightwish sometimes. I love em, have for two decades. But it's like, Floor is without a doubt my favorite singer for them, but i feel like the music Tuomas was writing during Tarja and Anette's tenures is the stuff I wanna listen to most. I think thats why the Wacken show is so perfect to me, personally.
Back in the early early days with the demos Tuomas did sing..
The proper Nightwish version of this song! I love Floor and she has been the perfect frontwoman for Nightwish but this version has no holding back from the singers its crazy and I think that is what makes the song metal! The Floor / Henk version is too controlled and similar to the original and loses it's metal edge because of it.
I partly agree but,did you know that Floor did this song several times before Nightwish,the one she did with "Russel Allen"(symphony x) is the best I have heard for this song." Poto" from Nightwish for me is ,that Marko is the real star,not so much Tarja.😉
@@strabel803 Floor just needs to let her down and sing it, she always seems too controlled which doesn't work as well for me. (Like she loves the song too much) I'm not the biggest fan of the Phantom musical so the Nightwish version of this song appeals to me as it makes it much more interesting and fun. You're right about Marco and a lot dislike this version simply because of his over the top but that makes it for me.
This is the last time she sang with nightwish as the kicked her out after this there is an open letter to her that happened before 2013 the second singer was only there for a short time before floor started
Need to do the 2022 version with Nightvwish and Floor Jansen too. First performance of song since this concert, 17 years later. It's also official live version with famous Dutch singer Henk Port
I Concur
I concur
I concur
Agreed. Because Henk was the Dutch Phantom and Webbers fav
If you want to see another different and surprising version of the phantom of the opera. Sarah Brightman and Antonio Banderas
Siempre es bueno escuchar a Tarja y porque todos se sentian asi es porque ese fue el ultimo concierto antes de que saliera o la expulsaran del grupo. Ya que estas con esto, te recomiendo "Wanderlust" ... y creeme por muy fanatico que seamos de Floor, ningun fanatico de Nigthwish te hablara mal de Tarja. Nightwish Army presente, saludos desde Chile.
The Islander, Tampere
I really recommend Tarja's solo stuff, you can hear there much more than in Nightwish, for example her incredibly beautiful dark chest voice. :)
Great show. Try nemo with tarja live version
Great reaction! Good timing with the pauses and comments. With regards to “Poet and the Pendulum”: of course listen to songs in any order you want, but it definitely adds a LOT to the experience if you understand the backstory to it, which is arguably the band’s most important song. I remember watching one reactor whose very first Nightwish song was Poet, and man that dude was in over his head.
But anyways, keep going ,love these !
🤘😁🇫🇮💙🪄🎼✨💯👍
My wry First touch with Nighwish looooooooonngtime ago 💙🇫🇮
It´s ok to like Floor and/or her voice better. That doesn´t mean that you can appreciate Tarja. And Anette, even if she gets a lot of hate. Which IN MY OPINION is sooo tragic.
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"Kiitos!!!" ( = Thank You!!!) in the end...
"The Poet an The Pendulum" is heavily tight to events which lead in what happened after this particular show, and from my behalf just go ahead and check that out and let the music do the talking(in what way I presume it´s made for)...The rest of it would become clear to you anyways.
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Tarja is the Queen of Symphonic Metal. You should check out some of her solo songs. Also at least one of the Nightwish songs with Annette Olson. Amaranthe is a great song.
This is a cornerstone of Nightwish‘s history. And the Phantom story of Nightwish does not end here.
So, they break up with Tarja after this concert. The stars haven‘t aligned yet for Floor, and Anette becomes Nightwish‘s next singer. Anette has a pop voice and no operatic ability, so Nightwish‘s music has to adapt and gets more poppy. Anette is not so great life, but has the ability to transport the songs through recording; as a result some very good official non-live videos are from Anette“s time (Amaranth, Storytime). But Nightwish is a live band and does world tours, and in 2012 they just can‘t work anymore with Anette and separate during the US tour. In the mean time, Floor‘s band After Forever has broken up; she has been through burnout and thought about quitting music. She is at her sisters wedding when she gets a phonecall from an unknown number. It‘s Tuomas, and he asks if Floor can jump in as singer to finish their world tour, and by the way „Can you learn the setlist in 48 hours?“ There is a video documentary with that title you should watch.
Fast forward to 2019. Floor is a Metal world star, but virtually unknown in her home country the.Netherlands. So in 2019 she enters a tv show called „Beste Zangers“ (best singers). It is a.show where a handful of singers sit together and interpret songs for each other in a small intimate setting. Each of them has an evening where each of the others interprets one song, either from their repertoire or a song which has special meaning for them.
The first evening is for Henk Poort. Henk is one of the most well known opera and musical theatre performers of the Netherlands; he was the first „official“ Phantom of the Dutch production and Floor idolized him when she was young. So when he asks of anyone has prepared something operatic, Floor jumps up and performs „Vilja Lied“. They hit it off artistically, and at the end of the show they perform „Phantom of the Opera“ together. Henk extracts a promise from Floor to perform that song together with Nightwish.
Then Covid strikes; all concerts are canceled; Marko leaves the band without ever singing Phantom with Floor. (Sob!)
After Covid, tours slowly resume. In 2022 Nightwish performs in Amsterdam during their world tour. At that concert, without prior announcement, a very special duett is added to the set list with a special guest performer…
Cue the Nightwish Army completely losing it! ;-)
And, yes, please watch all the videos I mentioned here.
Now that you have heard in the comments about the rift forming in the band and that this was Tarja’s last show, you should read the open letter given to Tarja after this show as well as her response. This will provide more context to The Poet and the Pendulum, as Tuomas addresses the fallout and responses from that fallout from the fans.
Read those letters, then I would say to react to the video for Bye Bye Beautiful (which is Tuomas’ goodbye letter to Tarja), Master Passion Greed (Tuomas’ letter to Tarja’s husband, whom the band mainly blamed for the change in Tarja’s behavior), then the Poet and the Pendulum (which is Tuomas’ reply to the fans who believed he was to blame for the entire fiasco.
That will provide context, especially with the introduction to Anette.
a classic 🐕
Tarja was sacked in 2005... so the minimum age of this live is 20 years...
Love the video thanx.
If you have not done so already, check out The Disturbed and their version of The Sound Of Silence, it is awesome! Totally the opposite of how Simon and Garfunckle sang it....
Tarja for ever🤘
Want to listen to the second singer of the band, Annette Olsen, you need to listen to Amaranth!!!
Yes! Also Meadows of Heaven, Slow Love Slow.
The Poet and the Pendulum deals w the devastating emotional crisis of (primarily) Tuomas after the firing of Tarja. Go to the Nightwish wiki or website and read both open letters. There's also a 30min documentary of Tuomas going home to his parents' after the firing, but b4 writing TPATP... it shows you how dark his world was at that time. It's in Finnish w subtitles... Maan Maniot.
Tarja was his childhood friend, having to fire her bc of her developed diva behavior was very painful.
Toumas developed diva behavior lol
Amazing performance from old Nightwish! Tarja❤ The real sound of Nightwish❤
Hi Lanae, it's Tarya, the J is pronounced like a Y.
2005 was this concert "End of an Era". Check Tarja's songs first and then compare to Anette or Floor version. Tarja's era most suit better for Tarja. Of course not all and Floor does some very well and the production is so much better also that has nothing to do with singing. Anette's era Floor does better in my opinion but studio Anette still was very good.
The bond between Marko and Tarja interesting one, given that he, like the rest of the band, all signed the letter sacking her, handed to her after this very concert. Today, and over the past few months, Marko and Tarja have been collaborating on new music and touring together. All is forgiven, it seems.
Oh, and do the official Nightwish version of Phantom with Floor and Henk Poort from Ziggo Dome in 2022 - it's an interesting comparison as both versions are excellent: th-cam.com/video/TM23gaT4zkY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MC6o7Pou9hhmZJIK