Nike Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX

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  • @DanielMorales-jl7kf
    @DanielMorales-jl7kf 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much, I was debating between the pegasus 5 and peg 41, youre the goat

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DanielMorales-jl7kf ah thanks. Which one are you going for and primarily for what ?

  • @SagasuRunning
    @SagasuRunning หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I always found the Stormtread outsoles on the Nike Shield shoes to stick like glue on wet anything but also squeak like mad. I wish the GTX version had a closed cell foam insole, seems like must in a shoe meant for these conditions. Fully agree that the Peg41 is the (much) better road runner over the trail.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I find all GORE-TEX shoes "squeak" anyway so perhaps a double edged problem. That said they felt better when I had pulled in the laces tight. As mentioned the tongue is not quite as padded as on the regular one and a padded tongue (like say on Invincible) I always find is a good way for me to get a good lockdown without pulling in laces massively even if probably not really the "point". I certainly felt the air bags in the road GORE-TEX one actually on the road. It is kind of odd that walking they might the shoe feel a little softer but when actually running not so much. The trail one is "OK" on the road but after a while I find I do notice I have the "wrong" outsole for such. in a way, for my use case of a road/trail hybrid either seem to work well. The road GORE-TEX one maybe felt a little bit firmer than the regular but it is new and think it will slightly "bend" after a few more runs. I guess also the StormTread rubber is also firmer which actually is probably what I am really feeling. Where I have ran so far in the road GORE-TEX one would have certainly "ruined" my Volt ones so I feel it is a handy shoe to have.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGrose Agree on your points. As we have discussed, I don’t like GTX shoes as my feet will get wet in Taipei regardless (water or sweat or both) so I just accept wet feet and go for a more flexible shoe.
      But for casual wear, in Taipei winters (which are always raining and foggy), they are a great shoe to have. I’m actually going to order a pair now… I’ve been influenced. Good job! 👍🏻

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope for me yet then on the last point :)

  • @Alexanderjinkim
    @Alexanderjinkim หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for testing and comparing like most of them ( such as normal 41, Gore tex trail 5 ) cuz I am looking forward to buying one of them and Pega 41 Goretax is pretty new so kinda hard to find review u know ( especially comparing ). Anyway, I am more doing traililing and also hiking so I will get Pegasus Trail 5 GORE-TEX. Thank you so much again. It helps me a lot :))) Thank you from Korea :)

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Alexanderjinkim thanks and yes good choice for your use case.

  • @christopherwayne2761
    @christopherwayne2761 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks, my trail 4 gtx wore off with water easily leaking in after a year of some serious trail runs and hiking and just purchased a peg 41 gtx. I prefer the firm cushioning of trail 4 gtx as the peg 41’s forefoot airbag makes me feel a bit pressured and tired in the area. Anyway, hope it lasts longer.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I guess that is part of the problem with running shoes. They don't last forever and if you had a year of good use out of them that's probably what I would expect. I did about 150 miles in my black v4 partly as I try so many different shoes and partly as I am really more of a road/track runner than trail runner. As such they are far from "done" and may well use them again but now with these new black Peg 41 GORE-TEX ones will probably use them in preference. Yeah the airbag or not is the obvious differential now. My main use for these sort of shoes is a road/trail hybrid so now both versions (I now have the v5 trail one as well as you hopefully saw) kind of work but think I prefer the air bags for the road section and don't reallly feel them in softish slightly muddy trails have been on so far.

  • @JLouie-
    @JLouie- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mine come in today! The black and white colorway, very exciting!!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah good. Let us know how you find them.

    • @JLouie-
      @JLouie- หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGrose The style/colorway is clean & such a comfortable shoe. Glad to watch this review before getting my own pair. I will be getting this all black pair for casual wear 🤘🏻

  • @DeeKay1911
    @DeeKay1911 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing comparison between the 41 GTX and the Trail 5 GTX - just what most of us is debating internally - thank you. I'm mainly a road/gravel runner so I have had the Pegasus Shield (based on the 39 I think) as a winter shoe and it has been great with storm thread out sole having way better grip on snow and ice and keeping dry through water - so Might be the 41 GTX as a replacement when they are done

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the last Pegasus Shield was based on the 39. This 41 GTX one is fairly similar with the Storm Tread outsole so should be a good replacement for you. I think I prefer the Trail 5 GTX one when more of my run is actually off road as it is a bit lighter but TBH there isn't a huge difference as I feel both work well enough on road or not. The 41 has the air bags like the regular Peg 41 but the Trail one does not so there is a bit of a different feeling there but once actually running, I don't notice the difference as much. I think if you wanted a pure trail shoe with maximum grip then maybe better to look at one with more agressive lugs but such shoes tend to be rather harsh on roads. So if your main use case is roads in winter weather, the Peg 41 GTX is a good choice.

    • @DeeKay1911
      @DeeKay1911 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGroseYeah would say 99% og my runs are good gravel paths and some tarmac - Did you run in the Shield? Compared to all my other shoes they feel very firm so might be a Pegasus thing but new ones the same?

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeeKay1911 I did run in the Peg 39 Shield and yes - know what you mean - they did feel relatively firm by modern day standards. I think that is largely just a Pegasus thing which you either like or not. Maybe the Peg 41 has just a slightly softer feel but it is certainly never going to feel like a soft shoe these days. I think for a hybrid shoe like this then I like it to be not too mushy. Further, when I have been out in wet/muddy conditions it has served its main purpose of keeping my feet more or less dry. I say "more or less" as if you head straight through large puddles (or a ford as I did here) water is going to run down your legs so always an element of picking your way through wet bits and of course on icy roads no shoe is guaranteed to stop any slipping.

  • @robin29991
    @robin29991 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved the Cat Cameos:)
    Yeah, it was a bit too dark but we got to see the important bits. I've never used a Waterproof Shoe before, mostly because the weight increase turns me off a bit and you have less breathability in the upper.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah bit unfortunate on the light. The ford was under trees. It was still reasonably light otherwise as the clip I did after the ford bit hopefully showed. Was generally a grey and wet day - so in that sense a good test. Also the temperatures have dropped quite a lot so "breathability" I feel is no any issue not that it is normally for me anyway but I do wear thin socks which always helps anyway. Fair bit of weight increase over the regular Peg 41 but oddly same weight as the Peg Trail 5 GORE-TEX. Can only assume it is the Storm Tread outsole that makes the difference

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And yes Daisy was "helping" as usual !!!

  • @xslaneyx
    @xslaneyx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review thank you!
    Currently run in the 41 volts. Wanting a pair for casual wear and maybe the odd wet run so might just go for the 41 gtx I'm grey/white after watching this.
    Many thanks😊👍👍

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the Volt regular ones too. Not what you really need for wet/muddy conditions though so good choice there. The GORE-TEX ones are a bit heavier but not too bad and has a similar feel.

  • @garethmorgan2383
    @garethmorgan2383 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I find the peg 41 a fantastic walking shoe due to its it’s stability. Also nice to have a bit of ground feel on a nice slow paced run .👍

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I did a lot of walking and then walk/run in my Volt Peg 41s over the summer when my Achilles was at its worse. I did value the relative "stability" and the fact I could, for a while at least, replace the standard insoles with ones with more arch support but found them a bit too much like "hard work" running "normally" as they added a lot of weight to the shoe - a good 50g. For a bit of road and a bit of trail I prefer something I can at least think I can "feel" the ground a bit. The softer ground provides the extra "cushioning" anyway. I also think I feel more efficient with a decent toe off going a bit faster which you sort of get with these if put in a bit of effort. Mostly I also think "sore legs" after longish runs is a function of how fit and conditioned I am. Right now an hour plus in anything is not "easy".

  • @alexneeky7920
    @alexneeky7920 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you very much for the review

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks! Are they still of interest? I have been using mine a fair bit since and not bad if not the lightest shoe. For instance, I went round two fairly wet grass fields last evening and stayed dry which is my main reason for using them.

  • @dwarfcakesoccer
    @dwarfcakesoccer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review, very helpful

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwarfcakesoccer thanks !

  • @BenNotley
    @BenNotley หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A nice splash through a Ford is always my preferred method for removing mud off the heels. Great to see Daisy making a cameo. 😊👍

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah on Saturday I had pretty much "ruined" them on some muddy tracks so I made a point of cleaning them off in the ford first! A black shoe is a whole lot easier to "spruce up" but white GORE-TEX and how to clean make for viral vids don't they! I did at least almost make 10 miles on that muddy run and a previous 10K in addition to the 2 strides through the ford!

  • @yuseiilyas701
    @yuseiilyas701 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review mate!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @MrAsthenia
    @MrAsthenia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for another useful video Tim. Did you have any problems with the changes Nike made to the heel of the Pegasus Trail 5 GTX? I bought a pair and had to send them back. Nike lowered the heel about an inch compared to the previous version, and that was enough to cause significant heel slippage for me. Even heel locking them with a runners loop didn't fix the problem. In a road shoe I wouldn't really care, but a trail shoe needs to be secure - I could see the Trail 5 GTX being pulled off in the mud.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One "fortunate" thing about having relatively very narrow feet is that by the time I have pulled in the laces a lot in virtually every shoe I own (including all these Pegs) that my heel is going nowhere. Indeed with my current left Achilles issue I am trying to loosen off the heel a bit area anyway to relieve some pressure. I can see what you mean however. The gaiter on the 5 is somewhat shorter than the 4 and I find it quite fiddly to avoid it folding on itself. The longer one in the 4 helps I think to feel more locked in. Not sure why they made that change. Gaiters I find quite helpful in trail shoes and helps with the waterproofing or at least splash proofing,

    • @MrAsthenia
      @MrAsthenia หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TimGrose that's a really good point. It's not something I would have considered, having quite wide feet myself. I remember your review of the New Balance Rebel v4 and your comments about them being far too wide for you, whereas I bought the 2E width version and it's probably the best fitting shoe I've run in!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrAsthenia ah I wondered who might want the actual wide one of those! I know there is a wide version of the regular Pegs but these more "niche" ones tend to just have the one version. I did find with these Peg 41 GORE-TEX ones that they did feel a bit "loose" out of the box so, in a way, I tighten the laces anyway as prefer to be very locked down in the midfoot. That said I always wear thin socks. I might get away with a "looser" fit with thicker ones but just what I have got used to. Partly as historically I was always trying to squeeze into shoes when my TTS was not always available and partly in my size shoes are heavy enough without thick socks adding to it. Have you experimented with different socks however?

  • @randomgamerwithpotatoaim8611
    @randomgamerwithpotatoaim8611 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I actually have the Peg trail 5 GTX as well as the Peg 41's, the non GTX ones, I wore them and I found that the sole feels squishier on the trail 5's and felt a bit more comfortable on impact but the upper is very plastic like and it feels like I've put my foot in a plastic bag at times, the tongue is only plush at the end of it and feels very empty towards the inside. however I liked how the regular Peg 41's feel inside due to the mesh and I would get the Peg 41 GTX if that is the same with them (plush tongue and some sort of lining in the upper to feel locked in)

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah interesting. I did feel initially that the ReactX in the Peg Trail 5 GTX seemed softer than in the regular Peg 41 but now not so sure. The plush tongue in the Peg 41 I found is useful with my narrow feet to get a decent lockdown. As mentioned it is not quite as plush in the GTX version. None of these Pegs you could describe as soft by modern day standards and, in a way, I prefer that there is always a bit of ground feel and I certainly would not really want a soft shoe for offroad for fear of sinking. I think if you are running mainly on the road with a bit off road and in muddy/wet conditions the Peg 41 GTX could be a good alternative to the other two. GORE-TEX uppers are however always a bit like plastic but I normally find once I have got the lockdown correct for me then it becomes less noticeable and I always feel a lot more confident in the wet and mud in such shoes.

  • @Skvngrr
    @Skvngrr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thing is I do more road running but prefer the look of the trail shoe 🤔 still undecided! Great review nonetheless!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could always do what I have done and get both but in different colours :) Or you could order both and send back the one you don't like so much on feet walking about your house. I got a 15% discount on these ones from Sports Shoes so that helped for sure. I have found either one does OK on the terrain it is not obviously designed for. Most of my use case is "hybrid" runs where I do a bit of road and a bit off road which, in the UK right now, will nearly always involve getting wet feet in "normal" shoes.

  • @Liam-q5c
    @Liam-q5c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think these shoes would be good in cold weather, I live in Ohio where it can get cold, wet, snowy. So I was wondering if this shoe would be good for walking around in that type of weather keeping my feet dry and not really cold. Great video though 👍. I like how you test the water proof and you give very detailed and helpful information of the functionality of the shoe.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Hard to say for sure as it rarely gets much below "freezing" (0 deg C/32 deg F) in the UK where am from and certainly not in October. That said I have used other Pegasus GORE-TEX shoes (the Trail ones) now and again when it has been snowing or just below freezing and works well for that. A GORE-TEX shoe is certainly going to be a better bet than a running shoe with a regular upper in very cold weather.

    • @paulojanen5045
      @paulojanen5045 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been using Pegasus GTX for many years as my daily shoe in Indiana and Ohio. They do great in the snow and rain.
      I've found the newer Trails 1-3 to let water in when walking in wet, tall grass.
      The goretex pegasus are noticeably warmer on hot days. I keep some non-goretex around for hot, dry days. In the winter the goretex are fine for normal activities. But I use boots if I'm hiking in deep snow or planning to be out for a long time.
      The goretex is also so much easier to clean off mud and stuff.

  • @paulmulks
    @paulmulks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheers Tim 👍🏻

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@paulmulks thanks !

  • @mohammedfaiisal
    @mohammedfaiisal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are these good options for temperatures that reach -5 to -10 degrees celcius? Or are there better gore tex options for that? Adidas cold ready 2.0 are pretty pricey

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hard to say for sure as it very very rarely gets that cold in the UK where am from and certainly not in October. That said I have used other Pegasus GORE-TEX shoes (the Trail ones) now and again when it has been snowing or just below freezing and works well for that. A GORE-TEX shoe is certainly going to be a better bet than a running shoe with a regular upper in very cold weather.

    • @mohammedfaiisal
      @mohammedfaiisal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TimGroseI also wanted to know the difference between pegasus 41 gore tex vs trail 5 gore tex. Which would be the better option for comfort, rain and winter

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mohammedfaiisal they are quite close TBH. The trail one has an outsole more specific to that and the road one (this Peg 41) has airbags in the front and rear whereas the trail one does not. Shouldn't be much in for the GORE-TEX protection. Maybe very slighter better in the trail because of the gaiter. Basically if main use is trails then that one, if road that one. If bit of both or just general casual use whatever you like the look of.

    • @mohammedfaiisal
      @mohammedfaiisal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGrose I don't run much, I'm mainly on the road and prefer something comfortable and good weather proof. Especially since it rains a lot here, but December January, the weather can get to minus occasionally. So I'm deciding on one of those two or the Terrex cold ready 2.0 by adidas

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mohammedfaiisal can’t say have tried any current adidas ones but sounds like either of the Nike ones would do you well.

  • @Truonks
    @Truonks หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got the trail 5 GTX in .5 size up from my normal Nike and find the upper too narrow. Does the peg41 GTX feel wider?

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sort of yes but not by that much. I touch on this in the video from 5:01. I basically felt I had to pull in the laces on the Peg 41 GORE-TEX just a bit more than the Trail one although with narrow long feet I have the opposite problem of both feeling just a little wide for me. What Nike running shoes do you have in your normal size? All mine are the same size UK 13/US 14 but I don't get half size options.

    • @Truonks
      @Truonks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Maybe I’ll go try on normal peg41 in store so gives me idea on sizing for the gore-Tex version. As for my shoes I normally just get casual Nike shoes usually 9.5. I have peg turbo version 1 in 9.5 that fits great. I read some reviews saying the trail 5 GTX runs a bit narrow and I decided to go off of the size chart which says I should be a 10 and ordered that. I also tried on invincible run 3’s and 10’s felt good. However I find the seam where the gore-Tex membrane is stitched to the upper to press down on the top of my foot too much. Otherwise the length and forefoot width was spot on.

    • @Truonks
      @Truonks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also I should mentioned I purchased the trail 5 GTX for winter/snow running. Hoping these peg41 GTX has enough grip for snow

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Truonks I did find out of the box the Peg 41 GORE-TEX upper felt a bit shallow. However once I tightened the laces to get myself a good lockdown it did seem to raise the upper a bit and not had any problems since. Sounds like you got away with a smaller size in the Turbos. Mine perhaps do run a little longer than some other shoes. I ran in them recently to compare with the Peg Plus. The Shield version of the Turbo 2 with a bootie cover was a nice shoe too. Hope you can make the fit work. GORE-TEX uppers don't mould to your foot quite as well as normal ones..

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Truonks should be ideal in snow. If however it is icy any shoe is going struggle for traction and feel just need to take extra caution especially on turns.

  • @Anis-m7i
    @Anis-m7i หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you review the normal black ones?

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Regarding the "normal" ones hopefully you saw I included some comparison with the volt coloured pair I do have. As mentioned the midsole is identical but the standard one has a waffle outsole not a Storm Tread one. Obviously your feet are going to get a lot wetter a lot quicker in the standard ones in wet conditions but if you don't need or want the GORE-TEX then the standard ones are both a bit cheaper and a bit lighter.

    • @Anis-m7i
      @Anis-m7i หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TimGrose I am on about the all black pegasus 41 nothing more but just the colour

  • @cgazlan
    @cgazlan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tim the gore tex tester

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Indeed - I seem to have found a little niche but, in the winter, I find such shoes pretty much essential for any off road bits in the UK.

  • @PoetWithPace
    @PoetWithPace หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the Fords near me have a foot bridge nearby so I cross there in my regular shoes 😉

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PoetWithPace ha ha - as you may have seen I did comment on the option to take the bridge LOL. Mind you one time I could not use a bridge as it was flooded over. There are of course many places on runs where water can pool and where GORE-TEX shoes can be useful.

    • @PoetWithPace
      @PoetWithPace หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGrose gore tex is the best waterproof product

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PoetWithPace agreed !

  • @brianreiter5572
    @brianreiter5572 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Daisy! Daisy!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah well done for spotting her :) She is never far away from me!

  • @HawaiiFranke
    @HawaiiFranke หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I want dry feet I use my sealskinz socks.

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I tried them some years ago but did not really like the "feel" of them. Will have to see if can find them to remind me.

    • @HawaiiFranke
      @HawaiiFranke หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TimGrose They are perfect for cycling in the winter; for running not perfect but quite ok ....

  • @fabsterun
    @fabsterun หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes easy win today!