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The conclusion of this two part episode in which I tell the history of Walt Disney World's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: Submarine Voyage and the fate of it and Disneyland's Submarine Voyage.
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The thought of those animatronics just sitting there, motionless, in the darkness, all that time, is honestly eerie.
It's called submechanophobia
I actually saw an image in a video with a bunch of submechanophobia video. Surrounded in darkness, barely lit, damp and motionless. It was the sea monster. I instantly recognized it.
Here’s the video I saw the image of the animatronic in th-cam.com/video/5P9GMm-wXXU/w-d-xo.html
Somebody could make a video game out of it! Wait...
An oddly bizarre version of 5 nights of freddys underwater
No way, Atlantis was considered?! That movie would have been amazing to have a ride!!
As long as the ride didn't end with everyone being drown beneath the waters that swept over them - just to give them the "full Atlantis experience"! LOL
For real~ i love that movie and still hoping for a treasure planet themed ride
Thank you! Finally, someone agrees!
To be honest there are a lot of decent Disney movies that deserved their own park rides..............but to them - nope
@@ryanbourke7398 Right?! Like; why not 'The Rescuers'?!
The story to this attraction comes full circle in the weirdest way...
The ride started out as a 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea themed ride. One of the main characters of the book/movie is named Captain Nemo. The ride turns into a Finding Nemo ride.
FULL CIRCLE.
My head just exploded.
XD
Isn’t Nemo from finding Nemo named after Captain Nemo anyways tho
full garbage, as the "nemo remake" destroys this ride. no thanks.
(begins to hum "Circle of Life")
Baxter continuously pitching steampunk until he was finally allowed to do it is honestly iconic
He was before his time. I want an entire Jules Verne park 😭
"I'm sorry Tony, we just don't think that people would be interested in a park based of Jules Verne's work. Now a park based off a movie by James Cameron that was forgotten a few months after it was released, THAT is what the people want!"
Ha.
Woah man. Don't go around talking about Titanic like that
That ride idea came way too late, but at least it was executed well. Now they own it outright.
I liked Avatar... *sniffles*
She's talking about Avatar, I think. Not Titanic. Fair statement tbh, I never saw sense in the hype to Avatar...
8:38 funny thing is, if they made an Atlantis or Treasure Planet themed ride nowadays itd probably do great financially due to the nostalgia surrounding the films now
I certainly love Atlantis
Those two are my favorite Disney movies without a doubt
Sbdjfkbf I'm crying at ur name and icon
for real tho
Treasure Planet: BUT I DON'T WANT THE WORLD TO SEE ME, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY'D UNDERSTAND!
Every 20-30 year old: No, we want to see you. Please come back!
I was actually at Disney Sea when the 2011 earthquake hit Japan. Overall 10/10 would recomend; the food was expensive but the infrastructure was sturdy enough to not collapse on us as we cowered in fear at a 7.7 magnitude earthquake.
FireRinArt ye disney sea is the beautiful park in the world
Which part of the park specifically were you at during the earthquake? Just curious.
Kamon Skye We were in the mermaid lagoon. It was underground which made the experience even scarier because we feared the ceiling would collapse. I even remember specifically being in “Ariel’s playground” playing with my brother on a fake sunken pirate ship (I think I was like 11). The ground started to sway and I thought it was a fun effect they added, didn’t even realize what was happening until I got down and saw people running and screaming.
@@firerinart That sounds so terrifying, oh my god. Thank goodness the structure held - would have been horrific if it hadn't. Thank you for sharing! Hopefully you never have another experience like that!!
Japan has strict rules about earthquake-proof buildings. They don’t want anything falling down
There's always something eerie about hearing on this channel about dismantled rides and what becomes of the parts. Something that brought so much joy to people being scrapped so easily is almost dream shattering.
This is very much what it's like to work in professional theater. We pour our hearts into a set, and then rip it down when the shows end, some goes into the trash, other stuff gets recycled into the next, repainted
It's how boomers and other morons think. They only care and think about themselves and their money. Fuck the fans. Fuck the community. Fuck preservation. They throw it all away. If they sold those subs for $10k a piece they would have been bought and appreciated and the park could have made easy money.
I agree, the ones that got sunk at castaway key are especially creepy to me.
I have an idea: you know how Disneyland has the statue of Walt and Mickey? Well Defunctland can have one of Michael Eisner.
Frizzurd or he could be with the alien from Alien Encounter
That is the best idea I have ever seen
Michael Eisner twisting Mickey's arm behind his back or something.
Statue design: Eisner behind Mickey, slipping Mickey's wallet out of his pocket.
You're welcome. ;)
Michael Eisner and Oswald the Lucky Rabbit
"The Jules Verne fantasy novels wouldn't be interesting enough."
Yeah, that's why everyone still knows and recognizes these stories two and a half centuries later...
if you do a survey of about 1000 people aged 25 and younger, the majority will either say Jules Verne novels are not interesting or who is Jules Verne
I just finished 20000 Leagues yesterday, and despite being an extremely entertaining novel, one can't deny that Arronax frequently droaned on and on about the fish he saw to a point of fault
Yea, kids would rather pick a pixar ride than a 20 leagues ride.
I would argue that kids don't know what they want until they see it. I was enamored with the 2000 leagues under the sea ride as a kid and I had no idea who Jules Verne was, just that you were in a submarine and you were attacked by a giant octopus. Sounds dope to me.
I'm still holding out for a Mary Shelley themed park. Only shallow pedantics worship Verne over the true goddess of sci-fi.
This makes me want to see a Bioshock ride.
I know your comment is really old, but dude I totally thought the same thing! Imagine hearing ": I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"
Baraa Elhariry it could definitely be done as buzz light-year moving shooting gallery thing.
Ooh now that’s an idea!
The guest could be thrown off to the lagoon. Told to swim to the lighthouse and take the sub ride from there. When guest reach Rapture, they can meet and hug a Big Daddy.
holy fuuuuuuck that would be fye as hell
Thinking about the 20000 Leagues Under The Sea ride always gives me an un easy feeling. Like how could they just demolish somethings so amazing. Ever since I was a kid I've been obsessed with the history of that ride
Hi Ben! You did a video on it...yes?
Oodololly I sure did! One of my favorite videos I've ever put out
I remember going to Disney world when I was 3 or 4 and looking at the lagoon while my sister visited Ariels grotto. I saw those tracks I just knew something great used to be there.
right. i would have paid to have one of the subs for my pond... would have been bad ass! friends say to wife. wheres he at? wife says DRUNK ON HIS FUCKING SUB AGAIN with that bastard parrot..
Me too
They were considering a Treasure Planet ride? That's incredible!
I wish they had gotten the go-ahead for it; it's a brilliant film :)
A brilliant film, yes, but not a cash cow like "Finding Nemo"
@@Giles29
True.
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I havent seen it but I should watch it
@@Giles29 I think it's better than Nemo
You could have the ride be the voyage too and back from treasure planet.
From the start with leaving the space port, to the black hole, to arriving at the planet, and then the ride ends with having to flee as the planet explodes before returning to the space port
I live in Japan and have rode this attraction many times. I actually quite like this ride but it's not very popular here and it's always almost like a joke where this attraction has more than 30min wait time, it's a busy day haha. Because of its popularity, we often get to ride the attraction by ourselves which is pretty cool!
I've always been a big Jules Verne fan, and my dad took me to see a re-release of 20,000 Leagues when I was a kid. Then we went to Disneyworld and I fell in love with the ride. I also went on the California version a few years later. Luckily, I returned to Disneyworld in 1994, so I got one last go on the 20K ride right before it was shut down in 94. I was at Disneyworld last year and was disappointed at how so many classic rides were gone, replaced by the flavor-of-the-moment. It's rather sad.
Ok I got a really cool story, my Dad and I were at Elephant Bar in California when a few major Disney Land executives entered the restaurant. We were amazed to hear them talk about the subs, a few imagineers talked about Finding Nemo and how they could use it to help save the submarines. After a few minutes we heard them agree on using Finding Nemo to utilize the space. DID WE HEAR THE BEGINNINGS OF THE NEW RIDE? I think we did...
I wish I could believe this but life is full of lies.
r/thathappened
This was being discussed at WDI as early as 2004, so...
The 20,000 Leagues ride will always be a an amazing memory for those of us as kids. Even if it was really just a boat when your a kid you were totally convinced you where going under water!
To see all those remarkable subs scrapped was a disgrace to those who built them and to those who still remembers what an incredible ride that was.
“Circle circle dot dot, don’t touch my playful spot” Brilliant.
Often amazed that people the title "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea" refers to depth.....it doesn't, it refers to the distance traveled by the Nautilus.
Yeah but it's a tricky title innit? "30 Miles Above the Land" sounds like a rocket being shot into the sky but could also be about someone running for 30 miles. Of course you can't go 20,000 leagues straight down into the sea but I would legit argue that most people didn't and still don't confidently know how long that distance actually is nor concern themselves enough to learn it. We mostly just assumed that a submarine goes 20,000 leagues down into the depths, I know that's what I did.
20,000 is also quite a specific number for a voyage of distance - it does sound a lot more like a depth measurement. I imagine it would be quite tricky to go exactly 20,000 and be like "well, thats the end of the voyage then, that was good timing".
Out of all the theme parks I've been to, I'd have to agree with whomever thinks Disney Sea is the best theme park in the world. There are way more attractions suitable for adults. It's definitely known as a "date" park or the park you go to with your friends, not your family (though there are still families abound so it's still alright for kids). I even prefer the shows and parades at Sea over the ones at Land. If you ever get a chance to come to Japan you should definitely try to go to Disney Sea~
NicoNicoleinTokyo I went to Tokyo in 2015 and visited Disneyland (didn't have time to visit Sea). But I'm hoping to move to Japan and I'll visit Sea sometime.
Tokyo Disneyland was great, but super busy because it was August, lots of long queues.
NicoNicoleinTokyo Yeah, Disney Sea was amazing.
NicoNicoleinTokyo reminds me on the first manga of Detective Conan where Shinichi also goes on a date in an amusement park (not Disneyland of course)
The Stoned Videogame Nerd I like the Filmpark Babelsberg Haloween attractions a lot, they even have staff walking around as zombies and monsters when it starts to get late
The Stoned Videogame Nerd only that I hate coasters and prefer water slides. Also those are the attractions who are usually crowded the most so you have to wait over ten minutes till you can ride
When you spoke about the old submarines being in the ocean so guests could swim out to them, I got goosebumps. Especially when it showed pictures of the old rusty ones underwater. Does everyone think this is terrifying or is it just me? Love your channel and keep up the great work!
As the son of Disney's ex head electrician (1982-1996) and life long Disneyland die-hard, your videos give me so much nostalgia its painful. Keep doing what you are doing my friend!
This brings a tear to my eye. I remember riding the submarine ride when I was a kid in the 70's and 80's.
Also I've been out to Disneysea twice. It's a super awesome park maybe one of the best I've ever been to!
So jealous! xD
At 9:13 you ask about a pic of subs in storage, I believe you actually showed it at 9:42. To my knowledge, the subs were not removed until the refurbishment itself for NEMO happened, they were stored in the show building during the dark years for the ride. I worked at Disney and every day you could see the one exposed sub permanently stored in the maint dock at the back end of the ride. All of the others were right inside the building. Great video! You covered things not well known and in great detail.
This ride reminds me of the submarine ride my parents would talk about when they went to Silver Dollar City in Branson, Mo as children. The ride was pretty much like this, but that was back in the 70s. Now, it is a large intertube that has 6 seats in it called The Lost River Of The Ozarks. Pretty sure it was a submarine ride back then to compete with this ride here as well as others that were popping up at the time. Silver Dollar City was made famous by The Beverly Hillbillies when they filmed 6 episodes there back in 1969.
Sorry for all this info on a park that youre not even talking about, but Silver Dollar City is MY Disney and im always facinated by the history of theme parks! Keep up the good work! LOVE your channel!
6:00 that giant squad animatronic is fucking terrifying
What's a giant SQUAD? lol
@@recordx6246Somebody Doesn't Know How to Spell SQUID 🦑.
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Good summary video! I'm a huge fan of Jules Verne and 20,000 League, so never being able to ride the WDW attraction is one of the huge "wish I coulds" of my life :)
It's also worth mentioning that the Trader Sam's Grog Grotto bar at the Polynesian Village Resort has lots of references to 20,000 Leagues, including a Nautilus-themed drink and Tiki mug.
I loved 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea with Captain Nemo, but I fear I may never see anything like it ever again.
While the abundance of dark rides is great I still think Defunct land could use a few rollercoasters. Darkrides, generally take up a massive footprint and rollercoasters, while still big, would take less room, some could even go over the other dark rides. a couple candidates that would fit well would be Drachenfire and Big Bad Wolf, both Defunct coasters from Busch Gardens Williamsburg.
20K @ MK Orlando was my favorite ride growing up. I was 14yrs old when it closed. Growing up my Dad would take me to Disney 2x a year he was as excited as I was to go. I lost my dad to stage 4 Lung Cancer a couple years ago and going through his things I found a ton of 8mm film reels he shot at Magic Kingdom. I been converting them one at a time to digital. Once I discovered DEFUNCTLAND I been binge watching all your videos. Man thanks for bringing back so many good memories I appreciate you!
I never watched any of your videos before and just stumbled upon Part 1 of your 20,000 Leagues video. I just finished it a minute ago and search on your channel for Part 2, and it was uploaded 4 minutes ago. Just my luck, I guess?
That's not luck my friend. That's fate.
Defunctland I really really really really want you to know that I want to know when you upload a video and I would like you to read the comments. So you can answer any questions of people. But plz can you do the attack on Titan ride plz I would love you to do that. I love this channel and it would make my day to do it because it's July 3 and I had a really crapy day. So plz. Love teagan craft also you can a do a really nice thing and subscribe to my channel my friend who let's me post videos would really like it. PS every day I check TH-cam to see if you have a new video 😀👌🏻
Plz
Here's a sobering thought... Sometime in the future...even Star Wars Land will be remodeled or even...torn completely down. It will be interesting to see if Defunctland is still around and what platform it will be on, as well. ;) Who can guess what things will be like in, say, 50 years? Any guesses on when Star Wars Land will finally come down? I give it...oh...30-35 years which will include it being repurposed for other themes. I think that might be generous. :/ Figure that we might have maybe 15 years tops for more Star Wars movies being regularly released. Even _that_ is generous. In general, what is the length of viability for an attraction after it's source material fades from public perception? I think we have enough examples that we could come up with a formula for how long something will last at a theme park... :)
"...with strange aeons even death may die..." ;)
CybershamanX: Two words: Splash Mountain. :)
I used to work 20K back in the early 90s. I must have driven that lagoon hundreds of times. This really brings back the memories. Haven't been back to the Magic Kingdom since 2001, so I was surprised to hear it had all been filled in!
I went on this ride when I was 5 years old and then at 7. I thought it was so cool and still remember most of it.
I remember when I visited back in 98 and I was so sad to hear this had closed down. I had seen footage of it for years and really want to see it. Also gone was 'Mr. Toads Wild Ride' :'(
I got to ride both!!!! And both I have wild nostolgic memories about. Toads ride was scary af
#TonyBaxterNeedsMoreCreativeFreedom
#TonyisRetired
#bringTonyoutofretirement
#BringBackTonyBaxterAndGiveHimMoreCreativeFreedom
Don't forget that Tony had his own share of failures.
The original Splash Mountain logs were too long and couldn't negotiate the curves in the flume and would bottom-out at the bottom of the drops. They all had to be scrapped and redesigned causing the opening of the attraction to be delayed several months.
lohphat yeah but he's an under appreciated creative genius. Maybe just not an engineering one.
I'm actually in Japan right now and got to visit DisneySea this weekend and man am I glad I was able to experience 20k Leagues. I know its not the same as the original but man is it an immersive and cool ride! And I don't get the sadness over Journey, its arguably one of the best Disney rides of all time. Sure its not a drop ride but the interior is just so gorgeously designed and the animatronics are so wonderful I much rather it like that
I was in Disney world in 1976 and I truly loved 20,000 leagues under the sea. It was a sad day for me when I heard it was shut down and dismantled. Space Mountain was brand new and that was a great experience also.
I’m still so salty that neither Atlantis nor Treasure Planet did well. They both deserved so much better. Such amazing films.
"...the worry that Jules Verne's fantasy adventures wouldn't interest guests enough." Uh, I guess Disney didn't realize how much money people like me and my roommates would eagerly put in their pockets for a place like that in a Disney park. -_-
Apparently Disney doesn't put much stock into Steampunk.
It was an idea a little before its time. It would be pretty popular now I think. Though if they had done it right it would be pretty timeless. Love the days in Disney when they would make up rides that had little to do with a popular film.
Imagine an underwater resort in Bioshock style with rides.. Cash cow timetravel included to pirate themes
The problem beingm can you find about half a million more people like you to ride the ride? And do this in the late 90s? Nobody knew what steampunk was back then. Steampunk really didnt take off until the late 2000s reaching into the early 2010's. Abney Park was one of the pioneers of steampunk music.
I don’t understand Disney’s logic. They’ll spend hundreds of millions of dollars building a ride that will last 20 years, and base it off of their latest hit movie that will probably be forgotten in 5 years.
Atlantis and Treasure Planet were SLEPT ON! Those movies are the best!
20,000 Leagues was always my favorite. I was so upset when it closed. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
i don't know why i watch these and enjoy them so much.
I've never even been to an amusement park.
I'd like to see Disney bring back Submarine Voyage because it was original, Finding Nemo is basically some scenes from the movie but underwater
Edit: If Disneyland and Walt Disney World were to bring back 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Submarine Voyage I hope they'll use animatronics instead of screens (it may be hard to build high tech animatronics due to it being underwater)
Homeless_ Potato Sorry, but the Disney parks are all about advertising trendy movies now.
I think there are a great many things Walt wouldn't approve of in our modern world.
I'd love to see them resurrect the 20K ride. That ride is how I got interested in the book and the character of Captain Nemo. And it's one of the movies that put Disney live-action on the map.
So I'd like to see them bring back the ride in the way Tokyo did--by not having the subs actually be underwater. That would solve a lot of maintenance problems and allow for more elaborate animatronics. (And I'd like to see the Grand Salon restaurant idea resurrected as well--with, of course, Captain Nemo himself playing the organ and singing to entertain the guests.) Maybe now with the good Captain playing a role in Once Upon A Time, we can get the ball rolling on projects like these.
Jennifer Schillig sadly, it'll never happen. Most people in this day and age would rather line their pockets with reused content than resort to the dreaded "creativity"
I wish disney can do the submarine rides like the one in Tokyo looks really fun
Riding the 20,000 leagues sub is one of my earliest happy memories. Thank you for bringing it back! One suggestion, your funny captions could stay longer, giving more of a chance to read them.
I was there at Disneyland back in the '50's when they had the 20,000 Leagues under the Sea display. It was great, showing part of the movie sets was great for a little kid. Thanks for posting this, it was very entertaining.
JN
I rode this ride as a small kid in the late 1970s. Took my kids to the park about 5 years ago, and only remnants of the ride remained in Orlando. Now I know what happened - I had always heard it was too expensive to operate, this just confirms it and the timing. Thank you.
11:35 I know he mentioned the cross-eyed serpent in the previous video, but was anyone else scared seeing it pop up and move around? Really makes me wonder what it would be like through a porthole.
Maniac4Bricks beach boys
Beach boys
You’re probably like me. I’ve got submechanophobia, the fear of large, man made or unnatural objects in or under water.
For some reason, I was much more freaked out by the mermaids who were gathered around the sea serpent? Underwater, they were truly haunting. Whereas the sea serpent was kind of par for a Disney ride?
Also I remember the way the diver was pulling at the turtle with this rhythmic back-and-forth, back-and-forth. The movement was so unnatural and robotic! As the submarine sloooowly went past one of the other divers in his diving helmet, I suddenly thought to myself "That animatronic doesn't have a face under there," and it chilled me to my core.
So ultimately, I think the fish and the humanoid characters were a lot more startling than the serpent, at least for me. Ugh, especially the fish. (Not surprisingly, I now have phobias of both fish and of animatronics. Thanks, Childhood!)
Huh I have vague memories of riding the Disneyland sub in 1996 (I was 4 at the time). when I visited the park a few more times I always noticed it was closed and wondered why it was never in service (until I heard they where making the finding Nemo version, though I haven’t actually been back since that opened). Fascinating hearing the backstory behind what was going on.
I remember going on that ride in the 60s when I was a kid. It was cool!
Thanks for not making us wait 3 weeks for part 2 lol. Your videos are outstanding my friend!
The submarine ride was actually one of my favorites part 1 and this video are great thanks for uploading. :)
My family went to Disney World in the summer of 1971.
I was 8 years old, and I had yet to see 20 thousand leagues.
But I knew of the movie and the sub ride was drawing me like a bug light. The site of that sub coming at you on that first turn was amazing.
It was a thrill I'll never forget.
My parents were pretty thrifty, and didn't buy too many tickets.. Plus the line to the rides were hellishly long, so we moved on into Fantasy land.
We never returned to take a ride in the subs, and it's one of my life regrets.
I'm super late to the party, but thank you so much for making this video! I rode on the ride when I was between 5-10 years old and was absolutely in love with it. I looked for it every year when we went back, but it was never open. I don't remember a lot, but this video helped jog my memory!
You should do a whole video about Micheal Eisner!
Lauren Longworth Family Guy has it covered
Yeah watch this Defunctland. It'll show you why he did what he did at least at the beginning and end as well as five scrapped ideas he did in most of the video here OK good th-cam.com/video/FoFAbyBcDoE/w-d-xo.html
+Disney Boy None of that makes him a villain. Besides, without him Disney likely would have been some other company's subsidiary.
Did he do anything good to Disney?
Basically, cash is king
I remember seeing this video was what made me realise I had submechanophobia... but it's an excellent video anyway! (Probably helped me in a way, I know never to get into a ride with underwater animatronics!)
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED 20,000 leagues under the sea. It made one of the strongest impressions on me. I was about 12 when we went to Disney in the late 70 s . When I visited in 1996 I was REALLY disappointed to see this ride was gone. The other ride which I loved was the sky ride that was also gone in 1994. I don’t know if they have ever been replace but they should.
There is nothing wrong with a little kitch. I was never happy with Eisner. I always thought Epcot was a huge waste of money. It was a sort of nothing burger.
I remember riding the submarine ride back in 1981. It was pretty claustrophobic but did have small holes near the viewing area that offered some A/C. Each person had to walk down inside the sub one-by-one and sit facing the viewing window. So capacity was pretty low and slow in boarding. Once everyone was seated, the sub would be lowered underneath the water and you would get a view of a fake underwater sea kingdom full of animatronic sea creatures. I recall hearing a few impressive remarks from fellow passengers. But I was more focused on the cool air coming out of the tiny vent in front of me and what we would do if we had to escape out of there in the event of an emergency. Yikes. Such was in the mind of a claustrophobic yet creative 17-year-old. After the sub would circle around the small body of water it would resurface and the ride was over with. Once we de boarded I didn't think much of it but was glad I did it.
My parents and I also rode the Sky Way ride which went through the Matterhorn, the Monorail, and Thunder Mountain. Later at night I braved the Rockets at but had to ride it by myself as neither my dad or mom wanted to tempt it. Little did I know how fast each rocket zoomed around the main rocket. I didn't have the courage to lift up the handle to raise my rocket. If I had been riding with another person I would have done so but not by myself. I am also acrophobic. I did not get the Matterhorn credit as neither of my parents wanted to chance that ride with me, and I was too scared to ride it alone. The park also offered an impressive and fun electric parade followed by fireworks.
I returned back to the park in 1989 and noticed there had been extra track added to Thunder Mountain. I also remember seeing signs for a big future attraction for something called Splash Mountain which hadn't opened yet. I did wait about 60 minutes to experience the then new Star Tours attraction and I was glad I did that because it was a totally different experience back then. The entrance queue was quite large and once you entered inside you would see a realistic looking animated C3PO and R2D2 talking to one another and to guests about the ride. The realistic theming was creative, open, well ventilated, and full of fun. It was as if you had just walked right into Star Wars from a hot 95F line on a side walk! And the simulator was like riding a VR roller coaster. Something new for that decade.
When my husband and I visited Disneyland and DCA in 2013 and stayed on site, I was finally able to get my Matterhorn credit. We rode in the new refurbished trains on the right track. It was pretty bumpy for a steel coaster and the splash ending was a bit underwhelming. So I was a bit unimpressed. I think maybe they need to also replace the old (Arrow) tracks. We also did Space Mountain. My husband loved it. But I didn't enjoy its constant jerking and uncomfortable hard seating. (I've ridden the one at WDW with it's plush comfortable individual seats and the ride goes in different directions with a few drops. That's my favorite one!) We did do the newer Star Wars tours but it was nothing like the one I rode in 1989. The entrance and queueing was completely different. The VR was pretty cool. But I got major motion sickness from the constant jerking movement from the seats. Thunder Mountain was down so I didn't get ride that again after it's renovation. But we did enjoy Pirates of The Caribbean and the Tiki Room which I had never experienced on my prior visits. I simply adored Tiki Room! I hope they keep that as it's one of the original attractions at the park. We also did California's Adventure with its two coasters. I was impressed in how Goofy's mouse coaster was so smooth. But I wasn't a fan of the launched California Screamin' as I prefer a nice slow lift hill on my coasters. Some of the other rides were closed due to rain and others seemed a bit too gimmicky to me.
Disney theming is becoming a bit too commercial in my opinion. But, maybe that's what Disney originally had in mind - to impress crowds and make more revenue in order to expand? He did dream of building a newer and larger park in Florida before he passed away in 1966. But, there are far more crowds now as the population has gotten much higher than it was back in the late 1950's to mid 1960's. And the technology of animation has become far more sophisticated where even older children and adults have higher expectations. Hence why there is VR rides and attractions at WDW and at Universal in Orlando. And the parks keep expanding.
I've been binging videos on a lot of the old Rides from the Epcot glory days such as journey into imagination, universe of energy, world of motion, maelstrom, and horizons and i think it'd be cool to see you do videos on any of them as I think they'd make a great addition to defunct land. (Mainly journey into imagination and horizons.) hell you could probably make a whole new area of defunct land based off of Epcot rides if you wanted to.
catch me outside 11:43
im sorry, i couldnt help myself
Super late to the party here, just found your channel a few days ago and have been watching all your content. It's really great. I'm so happy you chose this as one of your topics. When I was a kid I remember going to Disney World (I was 3 or 4) - and one of the only memories that I had from that trip was the 20,000 Leagues under the Sea ride. It really left an impression on me, and I remember really thinking I had gone under water. When I returned to the park as young adult I was very sad to see that the ride had disappeared. Thanks for honoring it's memory.
Yes! Same! I think I may have been 5 or 6, but 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea really stuck with me too.
Keep up the great work Mr. Perjurer! Excellent job as always!
excellent research well done , shame the 70s rides were better than today, when I saw the 20k league in Japan without actual water lol got me so depressed about the future of rides
Lotfi KAZ what does it matter? At least that version works
Because maybe in some years every ride will be just a screen or a VR-set with some theaming trinkets. Maybe make the experience fells more real, but it will be quite the oposite.
As a kid, I would have absolutely forced my parents to take me to Cali if they opened an Atlantis ride
#KidaisBestPrincess
I worked for Morgan Yacht when the 20,000 League subs were built - it was a lot of work , but for many of us it was well worth it. We built the stern-paddlers and the side wheelers as well as the steam launches used in the Adventure Land Jungle ride. One of the major reasons the Verne version closed was that it was the most popular ride in Disney World and had the longest waiting lines. A cost analysis of lost revenue due to such a large amount of guests not spending money for 3 hours was the major influence in not continuing the operation of the ride. It was all about the money.
I am Grateful to have been able to be a child getting to enjoy, in awe, the original ride of the 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea at Walt Disney World!!!!
Maelstrom! My favorite ride at EPCOT other than Spaceship Earth.
Maelstrom contained, for me as an adult, the same sense of danger and eerie wonderment as 20K Leagues: Sub Voyage contained for me as a child
So i guess you could say the ride was destined to . . . sink.
My joke was bad, & i should feel bad.
This brought back great memories. I was a sub ride operator and supervisor at Disneyland Anaheim for 3 years from 1983 thru 1986.
I remember riding the 20,000 Leagues ride back in 1974. It was my favorite ride and yes I remember those damned tickets. The arguments among the family was testy. Those rides let the imagination run wild.
Another great video from you, another shameless request for the Alfred Hitchcock Experience from me.
went to Universal on my high school Senior Trip & was the only one to notice the big house... & yes someone asked "wait someone lives in the park?"
Journey was "sadly" not a freefall? umm... Journey to the Center of the Earth is one of the greatest rides of all time. if you don't know what to expect it just seems like a normal dark ride, then it gets insane. the first time I rode it i had no idea what to expect, and it instantly became my favorite ride at Disney Sea. So no, it's not sad, but a good thing it wasn't just another boring drop ride.
I bought an annual pass specifically for this ride.
Totally agree. It's one of the busiest attractions at Sea for a reason!
Hear hear! Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea are not only tied for my favourite DisneySea attraction... They are tied for my favourite DISNEY attraction.
"Boring" drop ride? How is that boring? Have you never felt the rush of adrenaline (and, in some cases, fear) from suddenly being dropped from a great height? : / I'd enjoy the Journey to the Center of the Earth either way if I could go to Disney Sea, but I don't understand what makes a drop ride "boring"...
Martin. I've been riding drop rides since 1984. They are a linear and predictable drop, not a coaster. they are all very similar are not exciting in this day and age.
I wonder if this person has been to Tokyo DisneySea, but I appreciate that they included this in the video. I was worried they wouldn't since they aren't defunct. Either way, I think Journey to the Center of the Earth is more interesting as is than if it was a drop ride. The ride itself is interesting and has parts of other rides, but is unique on its own. However I felt like the ride was a bit tame...just a bit. Like every time you thought it was going to go all out it would slow down. Still a fun ride though.
Did the Nemo ride when I was little. I think my mom liked it more than my little sister and I lol, but looking back on this history I appreciate it much more now.
This was a great video set. I didn't mind that it was two parts. This was a love note to all the 20,000 leagues attractions. Thanks for the ride!
This is genuinely kind of depressing. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is definitely one of the coolest live action movies to ever come out of Disney.
Please do a video on Snow White's Scary Adventure (Walt Disney World version).
Ooh, yes! Do that! (And Mr. Toad's Wild Ride in Orlando. And how about the Mickey Mouse Revue from the 70s?)
beyond you stated goal with Defunctland, this video holds up as a great history class and for me, a nice trip back in time. I was one of the first people through the gate in Florida on opening day. I road the 20,000 leagues ride countless times. great job here!
I’ve now officially watched all of your videos. These are great! Thanks for taking the time to make them.
You should have the backlot tour
Jules Verne. 300% more interesting than Star Wars. I guess Disney forgot that Lucas flogged Star Wars to death once already. The biggest issue with recycling IP is that it grows stale quite a bit faster. For instance, the aforementioned Star Wars was a movie that went out on a limb when it was done, and built on and popularized the space opera genre for several generations of sci-fi fans.
Wow! You just made me watch this like it was a history channel doc. I definitely wasn't interested in Disney history, but your video hooked me. Well done sir!
Thank you for both part 1 and 2, there's a lot of information about the rides that I never knew or had even found in other places. Great job.
can you please do the original journey into imagination
seconded
I was never on the original, but when I was there in 2012, I asked the "Journey into Imagination" gift shop attendant about the old ride, and she was a pretty old worker. She said "the original tracks are still under the parts of the ride, ie. part of the track is under the gift shop floor."
thomas blue, thanks for telling me
arthurhweb, wdym second and why?
The definition of seconded:
express agreement with.
support; back up.
Add my request if it hasn't been already: Adventure Thru Inner Space!
By Monsanto.
I loved the 2 part format. It's like a mini-series/arc within the bigger one you're making. Really though, exploring subjects that require a super long video/more than 1 part is what matters most. I love that you took the time to slow down.
Awesome part 2!!!
I've been waiting for it! You know, 2 part videos like this actually would bring more traffic to your channel, and give more time to be much more in depth about the subject.
I like the 2 part scenario!
Somebody greenlights the callous and wanton destruction of years of Disney park history in the name of saving a few bucks, and then pawns off the rubble to make a couple more? Why am I not surprised Eisner had a hand in all of this...
be honest: do you really want the hollywood limosine ride in defunctland?? 😂😂😂
I rode that twice, got to go preview days. yeah it sucked, Monsters Inc. is much better.
I think he'd have to make some significant changes to it in order for guests to enjoy it.
let's hope he gets rid of those creepy wax celebrity animatronics.
I'm loving this series! 20,000 Leagues was one of my favourite rides when I was a kid.
I dont watch an entire youtube video sometimes but this series is just amazing. I love how you start with a video and then add back round music i just love your videos and they always pull me in, making me stat and keep on watching. The fact that everytime you publish a video, i get excited. Keep up the good work :)
+cheriKOLA _ Thank you so much! It means a lot!
Do a video on River Country PLEASE!!!! Love ur videos btw keep it up
Is that picture of Mickey sitting in the lake real or photoshopped?
Oh man, I remember riding the version before it became finding nemo themed at Disneyland when I was young. Dunno why but it stuck in my head when the captain said "Are those....mermaids?"
I actually got to see some of the work on the atlantis: tle retheming when i was in school! I was in one of the concert bands they brought in to perform at carnation plaza, and they drove us thru the backlots to warm-up in a recording studio they had back there. I distinctly remember seeing some blocky atlantis-themed structures, and a chunk of the Leviathan, in one of the garages there. Wish id taken pictures, but sadly I only got a glimpse!
Can you do world of motion???
That was Dad's favorite ride at Disney for the longest time, and he was really bummed when it disappeared. It'd be nice to have a Defunctland about it to show others who never got to go on the ride.
You should make a water park extension to defunctland and start it with Six Flags Atlantis!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or just make a video on Six Flags Atlantis
In Hollywood right? Used to work there haha
This was a stellar two part episode! Thank you for your hard work!!
This is the first video series (parts 1 & 2) of yours that I watched. You did a fantastic job of capturing the history of this ride. I remember the first time I rode this attraction at Disneyland (sometime back in the '70s) and I was only marginally impressed as a kid. It WAS claustrophobic and hot. I would later take my kids on this ride and they too were underwhelmed. As an adult, I recall thinking, "Wow! It really takes a long time to get everyone seated in this cramped sardine can. Disney still hasn't fixed the air conditioner." It never occurred to me that the ride at Disney World and that which we all rode at Disneyland were not the same attraction. Anyway, great work!
That sucks, DiscoveryLand sounds fucking cool.