I remember going thru the time period this gentleman is talking about and feeling very frustrated with Colt. I finally gave up on them. This guy does excellent videos-very well informed and comes across quite well (as opposed to the egotistical guys, the yahoo’s and the cowboy types). I’m just a casual enthusiast, but I find myself riveted by the Small Arms Solutions videos. Thank you for your excellent work.
@@SmallArmsSolutions I remember living through all of this as well. As soon as they started the silliness with the sear blocks, weird pin diameters, and weird pivot pin mess on top of the screw and collet, I started looking elsewhere.
Armalite sure benefited from Colt's self-imposed specification restrictions. From the mid 1990's on, Armalite was one of the few companies to offer true Milspec AR15 rifles. Up until Brownells recently started selling their Retro series, Armalite was the only company that had a version of the original AR10 rifle. I wonder if you can talk about Armalite some time?
My pre-ban Colt Sporter Target is reliable and accurate. It's a great rifle and I bought it used although it looked brand new. But if I never got that surprise bonus at work, I never would have bought it- too much money.
I really hope I don't end up regretting buying a colt lightweight sporter yesterday lol. Finished watching I think I made the right choice for the money
Looks like the 20 round magazine was common for a while in civilian market, the 30 round mags in US service is pretty clear, when did they become standard on the non-military market.
I had a Sporter II rifle got it at Camp Lejeune base PX I didn't like it wound up trading it to the LGS out in town for a Bushmaster XM177 A2 one I still have that Bushmaster A2 clone to this day shot the holy crap out of it when 5.56 was cheap. I believe 1,000 rnds of Norinco yellow box back then was $79. Norinco yellow box it was cheap but had a strong odor like sulphur but I could shoot a 1,000 rnds without breaking my $340.00 on the 1st or 15th of the month paycheck in the USMC back then!
Local shop had a Colt AR pre 94 cone thru, had three holes and the hardened steel block with Colt deeply stamped onto the third pin, slab sided. The third pin was still standard sized.
I drilled the hole for the front pivot pin detent in mine. Works great! (Bought it used, private sale, good price. NEVER would have paid Colt prices for it new.)
I had a Colt AR-15 Sporter in 7.62x39 Rifle. I eventually sold it because of the failure to feed issue and eventually purchased an AK-47. I also had to replace the extractor pin with a roll pin that would flex as the solid extractor pin broke. I am considering a purchase of a Galil in 7.62x39. I also have two Colts with the Monolithic Rail. One in 5.56 and the 2nd in 7.61x51.
No grease, sand gets on it. Restricts movement and scratches the anodizing and opens up corrosion possibility. This is military application. I don’t use grease I’m AR’s
@@SmallArmsSolutions Agree certainly for mil apps. I've heard enough 1st hand stories about the talcum powder sand in Iraq. I got tinnitus in my right ear from shooting my SP-1 for years. Then I discovered by accident when cleaning a light coat of oil stopped the twanging. Out west my guns are more in danger of freezing than sand. :)
Ahh yes...the colt sporter match hbar...first rifle i ever shot over 20+yrs ago...and i inherited said rifle (pops bought it braaaand neww back in the day)...and made it a mk12
I feel like Colt doesn't understand the civilian market. The way they handled their retro rifles has been atrocious. Brownells can't keep their Brownells retro rifles in stock they are so popular. Colt on the other hand are over priced shelf warmers.
I have a Lighweight Sporter that I bought around '94, when I was ignorant about what an enemy of private gun owners Colt really is... As I collected a couple more AR type rifles over the years, I became tired of the fact that the Colt could only use it's own bolt carrier, due to the auto sear block. I eventually learned that the block is fairly easy to remove. I did it in about an hour with just a Dremel and a small cut-off wheel, and I am no gunsmith. There are videos on TH-cam detailing how to do this, if anyone is interested. Then the rifle can use standard full-auto style bolt carriers.
Have a Colt Sporter HBAR, still had cardboard tube and muzzle cap, no box, only evidence of firing was test firing. It was the only way I could possess an AR platform in MA due to 2016 AWB reinterpretation by AG. I use the lower (slab side) for my personal rifle with a Colt M4 upper and mid length gas 14.5-pinweld barrel with Midwest industries handguard and carbine buffer and B5 stock. Figured I'd save the 20" upper the abuse.
This is the exact same rifle I have. Heavy barrel, A2 upper and lower, and sear block. It's a shame that I cant customize the trigger and other things. It's a great rifle, and it's a great shooter, but I'm limited. Its funny because my AR says Match Target lightweight, even though it's a 20inch A2. That's alright cause I have an ak as well that's not tampered with.
I have a complete upper barrel marked C MP 556 NATO 1/7. Has no lug but has a2 flashhider. But it has a colt a1 upper with teardrop FA and a flat slip ring. Upper is not C marked but has the square and triangle proof marks. NO LOWER. I am thinking likely someone replaced the swapped things out. I bought it to use as parts but want to make sure before I take it apart.
Since the most current video is on our favorite subject, the A2 clones...is there an AR-15 upper that does not have the forward assist? I guess I haven't checked Knights, because I know it isn't on the SR25.
Depends on the style you want. 604/SP1 style slickside uppers with a fixed carry handle are sold by Nodak Spud, Brownells and Fulton. Flattop uppers with a case deflector but no forward assist are available from Aero Precision. An A2 fixed carry handle upper without the assist might be trickier to find. Off the top of my head, the closest you can get is a Colt LMG upper or a modified 9mm A2 upper.
I have hated colt for a long time. It seems like they want to be bankrupt. I look forward to seeing what kind of bullshit they pull when their government contracts are done.
So, did Colt make a 601 style lower (no fencing around mag release) with the sear block and the screw and collet front pin? Cause I think I have one (Sporter Match HBAR). No bayo lug.
I remember when Colt introduced the 6830 and a couple of my friends bought them. They couldn't find reliable mags (mostly chopped AK mags with AR upper portion of mag poorly welded on) and quickly got rid of them and went with a cheap Norinco MAK 90s or SKS's. I found a 6830 in 2005 for $600, it had been sitting there since 95' and nobody wanted it once they found out the caliber. I took it home and used C Product 30 round mags without a problem, after I got exchanged the solid stock for a carbine one.
I've had a Colt 7.62x39 upper for about 17 years. Short story on C-Products 30 rd mags> I had some feeding issues like a lot of owners. Gut feeling said the springs were too weak so I pulled springs from my AK mags which noticeably improved the C-Prod mags. But there was still some room for improvement. So I installed Wolf mag springs that were even stiffer. That has been the magic key as those mags have worked perfect since. I did pick up some new 20 rd mags but don't have much shooting time with them. So far they seem pretty good and I like the shorter length.
One of my shops has a Colt I'm confused about, the box says it's for the Expanse but the rifle is marked M4 Carbine(serial on box and rifle match). Does Colt mark the Expanse as an M4 or is it a mismarked box label? I'm curious because he's not asking stupid money for it and I don't want an Expanse.
From what I’ve seen and heard, the ‘Expanse’ lower is the same as Colt’s other ‘M4’ marked lowers, but the uppers aren’t made by Colt, they’re made from some other company for Colt. Colt ‘M4’ lowers go for about $400-$500, but to get an LE upper your looking at $700 +... I’d just get an LE6920 for around the $1,200 give or take... There was a video done for the expanse from SAS that explains it much better...
I personally don't care what a private company chooses to do to prevent its products from operating in one way or another. Now that said, I would not purchase one of Colt's firearms with those features.
I’ve owned quite a few Colt AR’s over the years. Sold my Match Target’s sometime shortly after 09/04. Own unneutured Colt’s now. I’ve always read on the internet how overpriced they are. I guess I’m just lucky. Local shop has always carried them. Prices were always comparable to Bushmasters or whatever else was popular at the time. Kinda funny how most of Colt’s shenanigans were unknown to me pre internet. They always shot just fine regardless.
What is the best colt AR 10-15 out there to day better than LMT OR THE Wilson Combat Rifle are the other AR out there Second to the best what do you think about Windham cmmg primary arms A.R. 15 what the best
@Nytmstr H&K ran a campaign against Bush's executive order banning sporting rifles. Colt voluntarily ceased civilian sales... TWICE, unprompted. Colt demanded exorbitant prices for their rifles, including very recently, an incorrect semi auto M-16A1 copy with a weak roll mark, for which they wanted more money than what you'd pay for an original. Colt really deserves to fall down the drain.
Sturm Ruger & Springfield Armory are super wishy washy appeasing to the anti-gun liberals when it suits them to be so, also. Colt was in on that sh*t show sham throwing money at that stupid "Smart Gun" with the magic ring. Cut the owner's finger off, and the magic ring still works. I think Colt's main problem was making a mediocre AR, charging a premium price for it, and then wondering why no one was buying them. I have made much nicer guns from Anderson Lowers, or Aero uppers/lowers, Faxxon, FN, & other very good barrels & Faxxon BCGs. I got a bunch of lovely light low profile M Lock Stoner handguards for 75% off on a birthday sale, Magpul stocks, and I came away with some really super sweet smooth as butter
Any gun company on the rabid anti-constitution Northeast coast is suspect on their support of the 2nd Amendment. The latest power abuse of the pandemic emergency is another reminder to get up and move. But will they? NO they will stay where they're at, supporting the more and more draconian left leaning states they are in. The profits we give them for their products go into their corrupt govt pockets. Go west and be free!!
I'm asking this because I've also seen webbed frames where instead of a sear block they have a metal left unmilled go through the same area as the sear block but not interfering with the bolt carrier
Org 6920le copy mitlary spc tcp is vest world wide only true m4 made as mitlary spc no diff fill auto line buy it's semi and a 16 in barrel witch is to me better then 14 5 barrel 50 fps faster more arrac
@@SonOfTheDawn515 If you have such a dislike of Colt, why are you even watching a Colt video? Did you even bother to check out the Monitor? BTW, I'm not talking about the Civil War ironclad.
@@Urbicide Because I like the channel and to possibly learn new stuff. The "monitor" was a BAR. I already stated not impressed by anything after the Korean war with Colt. The monitor falls into that category. Again, you didn't read the comment.
unless you want an ar15 that will jam or even blow up in your face, you better buy a Colt. Colt is simply the gold standard of ar15. I will not buy anything but a Colt.
Colt did the absolutely right thing by making it impossible to turn ar15 into an automatic weapon. Why does a civilian need full auto? Only the military and the police should be allow to have full auto weapons. They should ban full auto bcg. There's absolutely no need for that.
I remember going thru the time period this gentleman is talking about and feeling very frustrated with Colt. I finally gave up on them.
This guy does excellent videos-very well informed and comes across quite well (as opposed to the egotistical guys, the yahoo’s and the cowboy types). I’m just a casual enthusiast, but I find myself riveted by the Small Arms Solutions videos. Thank you for your excellent work.
Ed T thank you
@@SmallArmsSolutions I remember living through all of this as well. As soon as they started the silliness with the sear blocks, weird pin diameters, and weird pivot pin mess on top of the screw and collet, I started looking elsewhere.
The good ole Bushmaster xm15, my first semi auto rifle.
Armalite sure benefited from Colt's self-imposed specification restrictions. From the mid 1990's on, Armalite was one of the few companies to offer true Milspec AR15 rifles. Up until Brownells recently started selling their Retro series, Armalite was the only company that had a version of the original AR10 rifle. I wonder if you can talk about Armalite some time?
Armalite is now SAC. They still do not offer what you say in IL or now in AZ.
My pre-ban Colt Sporter Target is reliable and accurate. It's a great rifle and I bought it used although it looked brand new. But if I never got that surprise bonus at work, I never would have bought it- too much money.
It’s pretty cool that you have so many of these rifles and pictures of rare guns to go along with an inside view of the industry.
I really hope I don't end up regretting buying a colt lightweight sporter yesterday lol.
Finished watching I think I made the right choice for the money
Looks like the 20 round magazine was common for a while in civilian market, the 30 round mags in US service is pretty clear, when did they become standard on the non-military market.
Definately takes me back to the days of AR15s from my teenage years
I have an early 90s Sporter Maytch HBAR. Has the sear block and bayonet lug removed as well as the screw type front pin also has the half moon bolt
I had a Sporter II rifle got it at Camp Lejeune base PX I didn't like it wound up trading it to the LGS out in town for a Bushmaster XM177 A2 one I still have that Bushmaster A2 clone to this day shot the holy crap out of it when 5.56 was cheap. I believe 1,000 rnds of Norinco yellow box back then was $79. Norinco yellow box it was cheap but had a strong odor like sulphur but I could shoot a 1,000 rnds without breaking my $340.00 on the 1st or 15th of the month paycheck in the USMC back then!
Local shop had a Colt AR pre 94 cone thru, had three holes and the hardened steel block with Colt deeply stamped onto the third pin, slab sided. The third pin was still standard sized.
I drilled the hole for the front pivot pin detent in mine. Works great!
(Bought it used, private sale, good price. NEVER would have paid Colt prices for it new.)
I had a Colt AR-15 Sporter in 7.62x39 Rifle. I eventually sold it because of the failure to feed issue and eventually purchased an AK-47. I also had to replace the extractor pin with a roll pin that would flex as the solid extractor pin broke.
I am considering a purchase of a Galil in 7.62x39. I also have two Colts with the Monolithic Rail. One in 5.56 and the 2nd in 7.61x51.
i had a comp hbar that was very accurate. loved shooting it hated the spoing noise when you fired it.
Bill Fast you just needed to switch the buffer over to the other side of the spring
Grease spring?
I run a lightly greased 12 gauge swab down the tube. That's all it takes. No need to slop it on, just a light coat.
No grease, sand gets on it. Restricts movement and scratches the anodizing and opens up corrosion possibility. This is military application. I don’t use grease I’m AR’s
@@SmallArmsSolutions Agree certainly for mil apps. I've heard enough 1st hand stories about the talcum powder sand in Iraq. I got tinnitus in my right ear from shooting my SP-1 for years. Then I discovered by accident when cleaning a light coat of oil stopped the twanging. Out west my guns are more in danger of freezing than sand. :)
Excellent video marking a period in time. Great! Thank you for taking the time to create this.
Ahh yes...the colt sporter match hbar...first rifle i ever shot over 20+yrs ago...and i inherited said rifle (pops bought it braaaand neww back in the day)...and made it a mk12
Great video, Chris and Heather! The amount of knowledge you bring to the table is incredible, it’s awesome
I feel like Colt doesn't understand the civilian market. The way they handled their retro rifles has been atrocious. Brownells can't keep their Brownells retro rifles in stock they are so popular. Colt on the other hand are over priced shelf warmers.
Colt doesn't like the civilian market. Sad, because they could be really successful if they weren't mismanaged and anti 2A.
Maybe now that CZ owns Colt they'll undo some of the defacing that Colt did like when they removed the bayonet lug and stuff.
I have a Lighweight Sporter that I bought around '94, when I was ignorant about what an enemy of private gun owners Colt really is... As I collected a couple more AR type rifles over the years, I became tired of the fact that the Colt could only use it's own bolt carrier, due to the auto sear block. I eventually learned that the block is fairly easy to remove. I did it in about an hour with just a Dremel and a small cut-off wheel, and I am no gunsmith. There are videos on TH-cam detailing how to do this, if anyone is interested. Then the rifle can use standard full-auto style bolt carriers.
I have a lightweight spotter with pencil barrel. Thanks for the info!
Have a Colt Sporter HBAR, still had cardboard tube and muzzle cap, no box, only evidence of firing was test firing. It was the only way I could possess an AR platform in MA due to 2016 AWB reinterpretation by AG. I use the lower (slab side) for my personal rifle with a Colt M4 upper and mid length gas 14.5-pinweld barrel with Midwest industries handguard and carbine buffer and B5 stock. Figured I'd save the 20" upper the abuse.
This is the exact same rifle I have. Heavy barrel, A2 upper and lower, and sear block. It's a shame that I cant customize the trigger and other things. It's a great rifle, and it's a great shooter, but I'm limited. Its funny because my AR says Match Target lightweight, even though it's a 20inch A2. That's alright cause I have an ak as well that's not tampered with.
Chris another great video
I've never been so excited for a video!
Thank you for taking the time to do this and share this information Chris! ~Josh
I hope there's a video on the newer colt le6920, 6920 trooper and colt combat unit
aaron rothe volume 5
@@SmallArmsSolutions awesome
I have a 6830 and a USA frankenmag . It runs like a spotted ape.
Thanks for more OG Colt love Chris! I am fond of my Sporter, we are limited to what we can get in CT and it's my #1 rifle.
I had a SP 6532 AR15A2 Sporter. Got any info? I bought this in 1978 in Wilmington, NC for $780.00.
I have a complete upper barrel marked C MP 556 NATO 1/7. Has no lug but has a2 flashhider. But it has a colt a1 upper with teardrop FA and a flat slip ring. Upper is not C marked but has the square and triangle proof marks. NO LOWER. I am thinking likely someone replaced the swapped things out. I bought it to use as parts but want to make sure before I take it apart.
That is a parts gun
@@SmallArmsSolutions that is what I figured so all is good thanks.
Since the most current video is on our favorite subject, the A2 clones...is there an AR-15 upper that does not have the forward assist? I guess I haven't checked Knights, because I know it isn't on the SR25.
Depends on the style you want. 604/SP1 style slickside uppers with a fixed carry handle are sold by Nodak Spud, Brownells and Fulton. Flattop uppers with a case deflector but no forward assist are available from Aero Precision. An A2 fixed carry handle upper without the assist might be trickier to find. Off the top of my head, the closest you can get is a Colt LMG upper or a modified 9mm A2 upper.
I have hated colt for a long time. It seems like they want to be bankrupt. I look forward to seeing what kind of bullshit they pull when their government contracts are done.
a serial number with dates of manufacture would be great
You can call Colt customer service, give them the serial #, & they will tell you when it was made.
correct me if im wrong but col no longer makes ar15 for civilians, right before I was gonna buy a 6920. bought a springfield saint instead
You are incorrect.
Are you going do a series part 4 video and talk about AR15A4? I love your videos!
romeo9545 part 5
Colt shit the bed yet again. In other news-water is wet and bears defecate in forests.
So, did Colt make a 601 style lower (no fencing around mag release) with the sear block and the screw and collet front pin? Cause I think I have one (Sporter Match HBAR). No bayo lug.
Yes sir they did
I remember when Colt introduced the 6830 and a couple of my friends bought them. They couldn't find reliable mags (mostly chopped AK mags with AR upper portion of mag poorly welded on) and quickly got rid of them and went with a cheap Norinco MAK 90s or SKS's. I found a 6830 in 2005 for $600, it had been sitting there since 95' and nobody wanted it once they found out the caliber. I took it home and used C Product 30 round mags without a problem, after I got exchanged the solid stock for a carbine one.
I've had a Colt 7.62x39 upper for about 17 years. Short story on C-Products 30 rd mags> I had some feeding issues like a lot of owners. Gut feeling said the springs were too weak so I pulled springs from my AK mags which noticeably improved the C-Prod mags. But there was still some room for improvement. So I installed Wolf mag springs that were even stiffer. That has been the magic key as those mags have worked perfect since. I did pick up some new 20 rd mags but don't have much shooting time with them. So far they seem pretty good and I like the shorter length.
One of my shops has a Colt I'm confused about, the box says it's for the Expanse but the rifle is marked M4 Carbine(serial on box and rifle match). Does Colt mark the Expanse as an M4 or is it a mismarked box label? I'm curious because he's not asking stupid money for it and I don't want an Expanse.
From what I’ve seen and heard, the ‘Expanse’ lower is the same as Colt’s other ‘M4’ marked lowers, but the uppers aren’t made by Colt, they’re made from some other company for Colt. Colt ‘M4’ lowers go for about $400-$500, but to get an LE upper your looking at $700 +... I’d just get an LE6920 for around the $1,200 give or take... There was a video done for the expanse from SAS that explains it much better...
th-cam.com/video/k__auPMEGzI/w-d-xo.html
Colt has been extremely disappointing for the past 10 to 15 years.
30 years 😒
Colt 6960 is a great rifle.
That’s what happens when you don’t have any innovation whatsoever.
The AR-15A4 with the actual roll marked lower was excellent. The new carbine marked ones make a great rifle look stupid.
I personally don't care what a private company chooses to do to prevent its products from operating in one way or another. Now that said, I would not purchase one of Colt's firearms with those features.
Anyone know when the black delta rings started showing up?
Did the 9mm colt sporter also use the special larger diameter trigger pins and special trigger?
tyler R same evolution as the rest. Yes sir
I own the Colt Sporter competition 2 Match HBAR 1/9 twist. The rifle is very confused with its non threaded barrel and sear block.
I’m confused. Mine does not have Sporter on it it’s engraved with Match Target Competition HBar. Any information about that?
Watch Part 4
5:08 do any of those BCGs differ from each other in terms of reliability?
No. Heavier mass is better in theory on the full auto carrier but doubt you could ever see a difference
I’ve owned quite a few Colt AR’s over the years. Sold my Match Target’s sometime shortly after 09/04. Own unneutured Colt’s now. I’ve always read on the internet how overpriced they are. I guess I’m just lucky. Local shop has always carried them. Prices were always comparable to Bushmasters or whatever else was popular at the time. Kinda funny how most of Colt’s shenanigans were unknown to me pre internet. They always shot just fine regardless.
What is the best colt AR 10-15 out there to day better than LMT OR THE Wilson Combat Rifle are the other AR out there Second to the best what do you think about Windham cmmg primary arms A.R. 15 what the best
Say what?
Wow.
This was a long time between drinks- so long that I thought this series went to rehab.
Ugh, colt has to be the most anti-gun gun company ever.
@Nytmstr H&K is mostly limited by US import and German export laws. Their offerings in Europe are quite nice.
@Nytmstr H&K ran a campaign against Bush's executive order banning sporting rifles. Colt voluntarily ceased civilian sales... TWICE, unprompted. Colt demanded exorbitant prices for their rifles, including very recently, an incorrect semi auto M-16A1 copy with a weak roll mark, for which they wanted more money than what you'd pay for an original. Colt really deserves to fall down the drain.
Sturm Ruger & Springfield Armory are super wishy washy appeasing to the anti-gun liberals when it suits them to be so, also. Colt was in on that sh*t show sham throwing money at that stupid "Smart Gun" with the magic ring. Cut the owner's finger off, and the magic ring still works. I think Colt's main problem was making a mediocre AR, charging a premium price for it, and then wondering why no one was buying them. I have made much nicer guns from Anderson Lowers, or Aero uppers/lowers, Faxxon, FN, & other very good barrels & Faxxon BCGs. I got a bunch of lovely light low profile M Lock Stoner handguards for 75% off on a birthday sale, Magpul stocks, and I came away with some really super sweet smooth as butter
@@Satchmoeddie Mediocre is beyond generous in the post 2015-ish world for what Colt wanted a thousand bucks for.
Any gun company on the rabid anti-constitution Northeast coast is suspect on their support of the 2nd Amendment. The latest power abuse of the pandemic emergency is another reminder to get up and move. But will they? NO they will stay where they're at, supporting the more and more draconian left leaning states they are in. The profits we give them for their products go into their corrupt govt pockets. Go west and be free!!
7.62x39 Colt that I have is very accurate.
@SmallArmsSolutions when did the colt CRS rifles come into play?
Oooh. I need to brew a pot of coffee.
Do all a2 lower pre-ban colts have sear blocks? does the government carbine have a sear block?
I'm asking this because I've also seen webbed frames where instead of a sear block they have a metal left unmilled go through the same area as the sear block but not interfering with the bolt carrier
Need to get an AR15....but no ammo available
Wait there is no rush. I have about 3,000 rounds of M193 and Mk 262 all bought on sale with free shipping.
Org 6920le copy mitlary spc tcp is vest world wide only true m4 made as mitlary spc no diff fill auto line buy it's semi and a 16 in barrel witch is to me better then 14 5 barrel 50 fps faster more arrac
I want this gun in Pakistan
I haven't been impressed by anything Colt since... Ever. I think their best stuff was before the Korean war.
Try a Model M in .380
Check out the Colt Monitor.
@@Urbicide I take it you ignored my comment.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 If you have such a dislike of Colt, why are you even watching a Colt video? Did you even bother to check out the Monitor? BTW, I'm not talking about the Civil War ironclad.
@@Urbicide Because I like the channel and to possibly learn new stuff. The "monitor" was a BAR. I already stated not impressed by anything after the Korean war with Colt. The monitor falls into that category. Again, you didn't read the comment.
It's hard to believe Colt is headquartered in Connecticut.
S & W is located in Massachusetts.
unless you want an ar15 that will jam or even blow up in your face, you better buy a Colt. Colt is simply the gold standard of ar15. I will not buy anything but a Colt.
Colt did the absolutely right thing by making it impossible to turn ar15 into an automatic weapon. Why does a civilian need full auto? Only the military and the police should be allow to have full auto weapons. They should ban full auto bcg. There's absolutely no need for that.
Colt is annoying for doing this