She's right on all of her points. I've been living there since 2006 and as the years go by, SLO county keeps getting worse. Homeless is climbing. Homes are getting too expensive. Traffic is nearly at a standstill. Rent has gone through the roof. Pollution at all levels is slowly climbing. Jobs pay at either minimum wage or at least near it (unless you have a specialty career like a lawyer, doctor, management, or thriving business). I do own a home there but lucky for me, I bought at the right time when the housing market was just starting to recover and things where still cheap. Then I found out that many people, like me, have a home there but work in a different city and commute, that's crazy, but you gotta do what you gotta do to survive in SLO county.
Homeless is absolutely an issue and needs to be addressed. The cost of homes is expected, we live in a desirable area so home prices will be high. You don’t need to be a doctor or lawyer to buy a home in SLO. My wife is a teacher and I oversee business development for a local company, we bought a SFH at SLR. Traffic is still nothing compared to bay or LA. Crime is still basically non existent here (high cost of living helps keep it that way IMO). There are good paying careers you just need to be college educated to get them. My company starts off employees at $60k per year.
My wife and I escaped from Orange County...we planned that escape for over 20 years, and now we live in semi-rural paradise on our 'ranchette-ito' on the west mesa in Nipomo. Yes! If you want big, noisy malls, crushing traffic, endless crowded chain eateries and such then SLO Co. is NOT your kind of place.
@@johnrpizzaguy LOL!!! Funny thing...thats what I call Trilogy, or "Trilogian Space"...since we moved here, I tell people that part of Irvine followed us here.
@@CAwolfguy completely agree, when we moved here in 91 houses were $125,000 and our bank,library and mini mart were all trailers on Teft. Like I said glad you got out. Enjoy life.
Yes it is! It’s turned into exactly what you moved from because all of you have moved here! Sorry we don’t have a cheese cake factory yet, I’m sited it’s coming!
@@amyabbott454 I hope you’re not talking to me. Although I was born and raised in Calabasas the home office of the Cheesecake Factory I personally want nothing to do with it. The menu is overblown and quite frankly the cheesecake is marginal at best. I have been a SLO county resident for 30 years and chose to live the SLO life, which means I learned local culture and culinarily skills and embrace them , why mess with perfection. It’s simple and really good. Ps my former boss was a Cheesecake Factory executive and we fired him!
My wife and I moved here from the Bay Area. Biggest reasons: 1. Fantastic weather 2. Zero crime (Bay Area weekly shootings/armed robberies ect) 3. No traffic Love SLO!
@@therealartvalero the city of Antioch alone has had 12 shootings in the last 21 days. That’s all over the Bay Area. Bullet proof glass protecting bank tellers, armed guards with bullet proof vests at grocery store exits, stores near the high school close down when school gets out because of so much theft and fighting. My wife and I are absolutely thrilled to be here in Slo where that stuff doesn’t happen. Night and day.
It’s not crime free here and the traffic has become awful because of people moving here from out of town. It’s ruined now. It’s so sad! Retire somewhere else!!!!
Yeah okay !…. I was born and raised in Santa Maria central coast Im proud to say I’m a native in this area awesome place to live compare to other bigger city’s it’s mellow area to live sure we may not have richies or other things that the big city’s have but the people here make the best out of everything and it’s fun to take road trips elsewhere every now and then I know this city my home town may have its ups and downs but comparing it to other big city’s like Los Angeles the crime rate for example makes central coast look like a paradise I feel like we should be thankful in a way we have things not to far from our reach and just because you don’t see your typical shopping store doesn’t mean the central coast sucks or like the people who bad talk Santa Maria that left that’s because they had a really bad reputation and let me tell you that type of mentality doesn’t get you anywhere but problems so to make it straight forward and simple central coast may not be as perfect may have its good and bad times but as I mention compared to other bigger areas it’s a nice place to live very easy going very mellow
I grew up in Morro Bay. Want to move my family back but rents are high ( like anywhere nowadays) lack of jobs is another issue. You can always live in Atascadero for cheaper your still so close to the beach.
Yeah no... its called the GRADE .. it will reak havoc on your car going up and down the grade every day. Talking about massive damage to your breaks and tires. You live in Atascadero you stay in Atascadero and Paso. Even Santa Maria is expesnive now , bunch of people that got priced out from LA, BAY and SB flocked here around 2016 and its just as pricey as slo. You're best bet is Shandon now.. but hey its a 1 hour drive from the new instagram tourist trap that is now... Morro Rock.
I lined in north county for 15 years. The one big thing is The government of the USA is way different from the government of California. The code inspector Harley Voss of SLO county, sneaks around owners property to find anything to site one for. I have actually been in the office and over heard him in conversation with fellow worker of him bragging of how much the fines will add up. Shortly after I packed up sold my property and moved to Kansas. Where America is still America. California has become a cesspool of crooked, scandals, that prey on one another. Anyone moving there, I wish you luck. I still have much love and respect to all that are still out there.
Im from Dc area and been in SLO county four years. I actually do film making around the community for graduations, You Tube, tournaments. apparently SLO county isn't for me because there is no film/acting involved or movie industry so Im relocating to Southern California couple of weeks, Btw nice video.
Thanks for this information! I am considering a move from NYC but I don't drive (and don't plan to). I do ride my bike and naturally being from NY I don't think twice about walking 20 minutes somewhere. Your bus system doesn't look to be thaaaaat bad, in terms of getting around to necessities. Do you think someone could get by living downtown without a car if she's more of a home body?
Cool! I know price of living goes up downtown but ultimately I just need to know if I can get around. I assume you likely are driving everywhere, but do you happen to know how often the buses come/ generally how reliable they are?Thank you so much for your help, it looks like a beautiful town!
Im from the big city. And the city of san luis Obispo is a good retirement city. "No street gangs" or street thugs to worry about. Its a college town. I personally got out of California
I lived in SLO county for nearly 30 years. Beautiful place, but for some unlucky it's not a good place to live, sometimes those who just pass thru, are targeted by the corrupt cops, especially the SLO Sheriff department. The homeless have exponentially increased, so it's not as nice as it used to be. With that said, it's just a nice place to visit.
Corrupt cops?? 😂😂 i suppose youve never left America, otherwise you would have never made that nonsensical comment. My guess is you did something wrong, were caught, are narcissistic enough to try to lie your way out and they crushed your lie and attempt to get away with it and now hold hate for the guys that caught you. Let it go, youll feel better
remember when San Luis almost had a mall? it was a partial mall ... Gottschalks on one side Embassy suites on the other. I remember how the downtown businesses were very against a 'commercial' mall in the city. From what I recall there were plans to extend the mall to what it was originally designed for but the Dilidio property was not giving up the land and the mall never materialized. I know Embassy is still there...what else? I don't live in the county anymore, I used to. I even worked at Gottschalks in the early 90's. Does Santa Maria still have their mall?
Ha ha .. yeah after the Recession the whole area ;SLO,SM was full of closed stores. the SM mall had like 3 stores open ( fashion maxx, sears, ice cream banana place). Around 2016 is when SLO & SM started to kinda grow. SLO 'mall' area is pretty much downtown(H&M) and an outside outlet mall is PISMO(near scolaris). SM mall reopened a new thearter, skating rink(christmas) & they have a crunch fitness and other usual mall stores. From what i've heard the tomato fields near Embassy are being replaced with houses(huge housing shortage) and behind it is a Forevor 21 ( or so there was before vid). Also the Ross in downtown just closed. Looks like Ross & Micheals are now where Sears & Borders used to be. I sort of missed that little mall with gotschalks. My memory of that mall was hearing Enyas 'Sail Away' looking up that little dome area with thriftys ice cream. I left in 2018 to Plano .. we have like hundreds of malls here. But I left just as Santa maria opened a new shopping center (lowes, chick filla ) behind Edwards Cinema on bettaravia.
BIG thing you left out... homeless non law abiding persons EVERYWHERE! Imagine the parks you pay for with your taxes just full of homeless camps, tents, trash, drugs, needles, crime and the local Sam Luis Obispo residents turn a blind eye to it. My kids always had something bad to report when in the parks there. Yep, we left San Luis for alot of reasons. Wife and I are both way above tbis realtors high end income analysis. I wa im the 135,000 and my wife just below that. Even ith a comfortable financial situation we could not imagine continuing to raise our kids there anymore
I've been here for over 30 years. If you truly want a safe and beautiful place to live you have to pay for it. But it is a beautiful place to live, to raise your family and to own a home. The question is what are you willing to pay to live in Paradise?
Great question!! Hope this helps….For direct international flights either LAX, SFO or maybe even San Jose. LAX seems to be the best from here if driving at the right times to avoid traffic.
San Luis Obispo does have its own Airport (SBP). I booked a flight to the Philippines in 2019 with no problem. You will likely layover at an airport in a big city like LAX or SFO for most international flights however.
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Verenice this is not the best title for this type of video. "Things to consider before relocating to San Luis Obispo" would be a better title especially since you love it there and have been there for years. Some people are actually attracted to a simpler life. For me I want to live further out where there is no sign of life for miles. LOL The only problem is I still want the convenience of electricity, running water and nearby emergency if necessary. Not worried about furniture. I can order stuff offline and have it shipped especially during this "pandemic".
Terrible place, don't even think of moving there! Horrible politics, costal commission sucks and what they call affordable housing is a joke, just a buzz word for builders to get their foot in the door. The jobs are to be a waitress or service industry. Can't afford a place to live! to rent a room is around $800 or more! Income comes from tourists that destroy the beach communities. Run!!
One post is not going to ruin SLO's rep. SLO has already done such a great job of that on its own. You are living in a fantasy world if you can't see outside your own perspective to realize how much others struggle to live in SLO. Also as a contrast she did a 5 reasons to move to SLO video as well. Do you homework before you open your mouth because you know not what you speak of.
I've been here 15 years and actually hate the place. I should want to "fit in" "belong" to this? The hiking and climbing is good, I enjoy the nature not the proactively insulting, snotty people, ( who was even looking at you?) they're not superior to anything. What goes around, comes around. No street gangs, but have you tried to use a park lately? Yes, there is a certain element of defiance in my existence. Inspite of it, I move forward in something. Most of the community/culture doesn't. Frankly, its adversarial. Put as much pressure in the market as you can. First words out of their mouth, some sort of predictable, infantile, insulting little remark. You send it, it returns. The trash with "the children" please. What kind of dirtbags exploit children for public image management? and special entitlement? Social manipulation etc. at somebody else's expense (whom typically isn't even looking at you )? I don't want any of it rubbing off on me. Same sort of thing with many of them with the little doggies, apparently fancy themselves: new, unique, interesting and special? Typically, takes about a year: What kind of infantile kooks run this place? Stay away from them, just let them infect one another. I have a right to be here whether you like it or not. You Leave.
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She's right on all of her points. I've been living there since 2006 and as the years go by, SLO county keeps getting worse. Homeless is climbing. Homes are getting too expensive. Traffic is nearly at a standstill. Rent has gone through the roof. Pollution at all levels is slowly climbing. Jobs pay at either minimum wage or at least near it (unless you have a specialty career like a lawyer, doctor, management, or thriving business). I do own a home there but lucky for me, I bought at the right time when the housing market was just starting to recover and things where still cheap. Then I found out that many people, like me, have a home there but work in a different city and commute, that's crazy, but you gotta do what you gotta do to survive in SLO county.
Homeless is absolutely an issue and needs to be addressed. The cost of homes is expected, we live in a desirable area so home prices will be high. You don’t need to be a doctor or lawyer to buy a home in SLO. My wife is a teacher and I oversee business development for a local company, we bought a SFH at SLR.
Traffic is still nothing compared to bay or LA. Crime is still basically non existent here (high cost of living helps keep it that way IMO).
There are good paying careers you just need to be college educated to get them. My company starts off employees at $60k per year.
Thank you for your comments.✨
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My wife and I escaped from Orange County...we planned that escape for over 20 years, and now we live in semi-rural paradise on our 'ranchette-ito' on the west mesa in Nipomo. Yes! If you want big, noisy malls, crushing traffic, endless crowded chain eateries and such then SLO Co. is NOT your kind of place.
Glad you escaped but so did most of Trilogy, we call it Orange County north. Again glad you got out! My wife and I fled Calabasas 30 years ago.
@@johnrpizzaguy LOL!!! Funny thing...thats what I call Trilogy, or "Trilogian Space"...since we moved here, I tell people that part of Irvine followed us here.
@@CAwolfguy completely agree, when we moved here in 91 houses were $125,000 and our bank,library and mini mart were all trailers on Teft. Like I said glad you got out. Enjoy life.
Yes it is! It’s turned into exactly what you moved from because all of you have moved here! Sorry we don’t have a cheese cake factory yet, I’m sited it’s coming!
@@amyabbott454 I hope you’re not talking to me. Although I was born and raised in Calabasas the home office of the Cheesecake Factory I personally want nothing to do with it. The menu is overblown and quite frankly the cheesecake is marginal at best.
I have been a SLO county resident for 30 years and chose to live the SLO life, which means I learned local culture and culinarily skills and embrace them , why mess with perfection. It’s simple and really good.
Ps my former boss was a Cheesecake Factory executive and we fired him!
My wife and I moved here from the Bay Area. Biggest reasons:
1. Fantastic weather
2. Zero crime (Bay Area weekly shootings/armed robberies ect)
3. No traffic
Love SLO!
Thank you for sharing!! This helps others get another opinion!!
You said your from the bay area are you talking about SF/East Bay or Oakland?
@@therealartvalero East bay. Grew up in Antioch CA.
@@therealartvalero the city of Antioch alone has had 12 shootings in the last 21 days. That’s all over the Bay Area. Bullet proof glass protecting bank tellers, armed guards with bullet proof vests at grocery store exits, stores near the high school close down when school gets out because of so much theft and fighting. My wife and I are absolutely thrilled to be here in Slo where that stuff doesn’t happen. Night and day.
It’s not crime free here and the traffic has become awful because of people moving here from out of town. It’s ruined now. It’s so sad! Retire somewhere else!!!!
Yeah okay !…. I was born and raised in Santa Maria central coast Im proud to say I’m a native in this area awesome place to live compare to other bigger city’s it’s mellow area to live sure we may not have richies or other things that the big city’s have but the people here make the best out of everything and it’s fun to take road trips elsewhere every now and then I know this city my home town may have its ups and downs but comparing it to other big city’s like Los Angeles the crime rate for example makes central coast look like a paradise I feel like we should be thankful in a way we have things not to far from our reach and just because you don’t see your typical shopping store doesn’t mean the central coast sucks or like the people who bad talk Santa Maria that left that’s because they had a really bad reputation and let me tell you that type of mentality doesn’t get you anywhere but problems so to make it straight forward and simple central coast may not be as perfect may have its good and bad times but as I mention compared to other bigger areas it’s a nice place to live very easy going very mellow
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I grew up in Morro Bay. Want to move my family back but rents are high ( like anywhere nowadays) lack of jobs is another issue. You can always live in Atascadero for cheaper your still so close to the beach.
@Jon In SLO yeah this is true. A little cheaper but not much anymore
Yeah no... its called the GRADE .. it will reak havoc on your car going up and down the grade every day. Talking about massive damage to your breaks and tires. You live in Atascadero you stay in Atascadero and Paso. Even Santa Maria is expesnive now , bunch of people that got priced out from LA, BAY and SB flocked here around 2016 and its just as pricey as slo. You're best bet is Shandon now.. but hey its a 1 hour drive from the new instagram tourist trap that is now... Morro Rock.
Those are reasons why I would move there.
70 percent commute? dont think so....
I lined in north county for 15 years. The one big thing is The government of the USA is way different from the government of California. The code inspector Harley Voss of SLO county, sneaks around owners property to find anything to site one for. I have actually been in the office and over heard him in conversation with fellow worker of him bragging of how much the fines will add up. Shortly after I packed up sold my property and moved to Kansas. Where America is still America. California has become a cesspool of crooked, scandals, that prey on one another. Anyone moving there, I wish you luck. I still have much love and respect to all that are still out there.
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Santa Barbara prices without the santa Barbara benefits.
What benefits?
This video was super informative! Thank you so much!
Im from Dc area and been in SLO county four years. I actually do film making around the community for graduations, You Tube, tournaments. apparently SLO county isn't for me because there is no film/acting involved or movie industry so Im relocating to Southern California couple of weeks, Btw nice video.
Shoot! I’m sorry to hear it didn’t work out!! Wishing you all the best snd i hope you enjoyed exploring the area!!❣️✨
Thanks for sharing the tips! What airport do locals use? And what is a good apartment hunting site? I only see college housing.
Check craigslist on the daily multiple times a day. The rental market is aggresive just need to stay on top of it
Thanks for this information! I am considering a move from NYC but I don't drive (and don't plan to). I do ride my bike and naturally being from NY I don't think twice about walking 20 minutes somewhere. Your bus system doesn't look to be thaaaaat bad, in terms of getting around to necessities. Do you think someone could get by living downtown without a car if she's more of a home body?
Yes!!!! You can make it work for sure!!! You can find a place near downtown and be set
Cool! I know price of living goes up downtown but ultimately I just need to know if I can get around. I assume you likely are driving everywhere, but do you happen to know how often the buses come/ generally how reliable they are?Thank you so much for your help, it looks like a beautiful town!
@@centralcoastcalifornialiving antrak goes to Santa Barbara i think fir non car people.
@@laurenronquillo3229 there is amtrak too. Get to Santa Barbara, san fran area, Los Angeles too.
Im from the big city. And the city of san luis Obispo is a good retirement city. "No street gangs" or street thugs to worry about. Its a college town. I personally got out of California
Thanks for the help! Oisin Hernandez.
Good don’t move here! Us locals absolutely hate all the new people here!
And therein lies one of the big problems of older locals in that town. Case in point.
@@JacobSolbux yes I’m sooo ancient! You can tell by the name I’m sure!
Hopefully you own a home in slo? If not, we are more local than you lmao.
@@JacobSolbux what’s wrong with older people?
Wow thank you. Can’t afford it, but very informational. SLO looks like a lovely place to live.
I lived in SLO county for nearly 30 years. Beautiful place, but for some unlucky it's not a good place to live, sometimes those who just pass thru, are targeted by the corrupt cops, especially the SLO Sheriff department. The homeless have exponentially increased, so it's not as nice as it used to be. With that said, it's just a nice place to visit.
Corrupt cops?? 😂😂 i suppose youve never left America, otherwise you would have never made that nonsensical comment.
My guess is you did something wrong, were caught, are narcissistic enough to try to lie your way out and they crushed your lie and attempt to get away with it and now hold hate for the guys that caught you. Let it go, youll feel better
remember when San Luis almost had a mall? it was a partial mall ... Gottschalks on one side Embassy suites on the other. I remember how the downtown businesses were very against a 'commercial' mall in the city. From what I recall there were plans to extend the mall to what it was originally designed for but the Dilidio property was not giving up the land and the mall never materialized. I know Embassy is still there...what else? I don't live in the county anymore, I used to. I even worked at Gottschalks in the early 90's. Does Santa Maria still have their mall?
Yes Santa Maria has its mall still. I was born in Santa Maria in 1990 and now live in Northern California Merced County.
Ha ha .. yeah after the Recession the whole area ;SLO,SM was full of closed stores. the SM mall had like 3 stores open ( fashion maxx, sears, ice cream banana place). Around 2016 is when SLO & SM started to kinda grow.
SLO 'mall' area is pretty much downtown(H&M) and an outside outlet mall is PISMO(near scolaris).
SM mall reopened a new thearter, skating rink(christmas) & they have a crunch fitness and other usual mall stores.
From what i've heard the tomato fields near Embassy are being replaced with houses(huge housing shortage)
and behind it is a Forevor 21 ( or so there was before vid). Also the Ross in downtown just closed.
Looks like Ross & Micheals are now where Sears & Borders used to be.
I sort of missed that little mall with gotschalks. My memory of that mall was hearing Enyas 'Sail Away' looking up that little dome area with thriftys ice cream.
I left in 2018 to Plano .. we have like hundreds of malls here. But I left just as Santa maria opened a new shopping center (lowes, chick filla ) behind Edwards Cinema on bettaravia.
You did a great job on this video 👍👍
Appreciate it!! They will get better each time!
BIG thing you left out... homeless non law abiding persons EVERYWHERE! Imagine the parks you pay for with your taxes just full of homeless camps, tents, trash, drugs, needles, crime and the local Sam Luis Obispo residents turn a blind eye to it. My kids always had something bad to report when in the parks there. Yep, we left San Luis for alot of reasons. Wife and I are both way above tbis realtors high end income analysis. I wa im the 135,000 and my wife just below that. Even ith a comfortable financial situation we could not imagine continuing to raise our kids there anymore
I've been here for over 30 years. If you truly want a safe and beautiful place to live you have to pay for it. But it is a beautiful place to live, to raise your family and to own a home. The question is what are you willing to pay to live in Paradise?
What about airports? For international would you have to drive to LAX or SFO?
Great question!! Hope this helps….For direct international flights either LAX, SFO or maybe even San Jose. LAX seems to be the best from here if driving at the right times to avoid traffic.
San Luis Obispo does have its own Airport (SBP). I booked a flight to the Philippines in 2019 with no problem. You will likely layover at an airport in a big city like LAX or SFO for most international flights however.
That explains why this channel don’t have many subscribers
#ILiveInSanLuisObispoAndILikeItThere ...
Medium or median?
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Verenice this is not the best title for this type of video. "Things to consider before relocating to San Luis Obispo" would be a better title especially since you love it there and have been there for years. Some people are actually attracted to a simpler life. For me I want to live further out where there is no sign of life for miles. LOL The only problem is I still want the convenience of electricity, running water and nearby emergency if necessary. Not worried about furniture. I can order stuff offline and have it shipped especially during this "pandemic".
Appreciate the feedback!!! I will take note of your suggestions! Thanks again!😃😃
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Terrible place, don't even think of moving there! Horrible politics, costal commission sucks and what they call affordable housing is a joke, just a buzz word for builders to get their foot in the door. The jobs are to be a waitress or service industry. Can't afford a place to live! to rent a room is around $800 or more! Income comes from tourists that destroy the beach communities. Run!!
Appreciate your comments.
Why does all the Los Angeles and Bay Area move to Atascadero?
Maybe because they live in a congested cesspool
#6 - Your family won't visit since it's far.
I send you a message !
how bad is the homeless issue, does the city let the bums camp anywhere they want?
Yes it’s awful! Homeless everywhere
Our officials have found a location the homeless and campers can go to in San Luis Obispo and that is currently in process (Sept 2021).
@@amyabbott454 Help them if you don’t like them. The solution is simple!
@@joseramirez2310 yes give them 5 bucks that'll get them some meth
@@mikegrzincic6235 No that’s probably what you do. They would like food, water, and help.
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Horrible explanation
Appreciate the feedback!! I'll keep working on it!!
Wow thanks for ruining slo rep!
SLO is awesome!! Not for everyone...no one can ruin
SLO...♥️
One post is not going to ruin SLO's rep. SLO has already done such a great job of that on its own. You are living in a fantasy world if you can't see outside your own perspective to realize how much others struggle to live in SLO. Also as a contrast she did a 5 reasons to move to SLO video as well. Do you homework before you open your mouth because you know not what you speak of.
nobody cares
I've been here 15 years and actually hate the place. I should want to "fit in" "belong" to this? The hiking and climbing is good, I enjoy the nature not the proactively insulting, snotty people, ( who was even looking at you?) they're not superior to anything. What goes around, comes around.
No street gangs, but have you tried to use a park lately?
Yes, there is a certain element of defiance in my existence. Inspite of it, I move forward in something. Most of the community/culture doesn't. Frankly, its adversarial. Put as much pressure in the market as you can.
First words out of their mouth, some sort of predictable, infantile, insulting little remark. You send it, it returns.
The trash with "the children" please. What kind of dirtbags exploit children for public image management? and special entitlement? Social manipulation etc. at somebody else's expense (whom typically isn't even looking at you )? I don't want any of it rubbing off on me. Same sort of thing with many of them with the little doggies, apparently fancy themselves: new, unique, interesting and special?
Typically, takes about a year: What kind of infantile kooks run this place? Stay away from them, just let them infect one another.
I have a right to be here whether you like it or not.
You Leave.