The Lost Origin of The Ancient Adem | Kingkiller Chronicle Theory

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  • I’ve always been fascinated by the Adem, with their ancient swords and their red leather wearing mercenaries. But what if I told you their origin shares some things in common with the Amyr? And the Sithe also seem to be connected? It's theory time!
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  • @CapturedInWords
    @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The Adem, the Amyr, and the Sithe all have some things in common.... what do you think?

    • @arekschneyer3802
      @arekschneyer3802 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think the Adem and the Sithe being connected are a definite possibility. I hadn’t considered the Amyr connection, but it does make sense!
      I first saw your kingkiller theory videos sometime last year, and since then have been rereading the books, slowly, taking notes all the time.

    • @thomaswilliams5571
      @thomaswilliams5571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great video again and some solid theories. Names in threes was an interesting take but do you ahave a counter theory that The Singers aren’t the Witches beyond the Stormwhal Mountains? I thought it rather interesting that the Cthaeth would mention them to Kvothe when telling him about seeking knowledge of The Amyr. But great video as always, you should really look into Witches in KKC. They are in the book and Pat has hid them pretty well.

    • @marcmarc4776
      @marcmarc4776 ปีที่แล้ว

      What were the Sithe doing when Kvothe talked to the Cthaeth?

    • @crossmoss7433
      @crossmoss7433 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kingsdarktiding books

    • @RUdigitized
      @RUdigitized ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’re right that kvoth is an amyr you may have accidentally confirmed that he is in fact a chandrian because of the 8th person on the vase at the wedding. If it’s true then that means he was pre ordained to be one.

  • @christiancummings6283
    @christiancummings6283 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I spent some time in state prison, I picked up the first book on a recommendation from an inmate librarian. I immediately reread it and then checked out the second. I remember my dissatisfaction in learning that there was not a third yet. I was hooked immediately. Thank you for covering this series!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It can be frustrating not having a conclusion, I swear that's part of the reason I'm obsessed with coming up with theories! The day that book 3 comes out I'll be incredibly excited, but also slightly sad that I likely won't have any more research to do and theories to share 😂 Glad you enjoy the videos!

    • @aaronfannin8174
      @aaronfannin8174 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@CapturedInWords This is Rothfuss' writing you're talking about, another book will only add a million more theories, even if it gives us answers to our current ones. I'm looking forward to hearing your interpretation of it after I read it on my own.
      Plus there's the stuff happening in the frame story. I'm sure book 3 can't wrap it all up, which means we'll be waiting (and theorizing) about that for years to come.

    • @ZachTaylorReads
      @ZachTaylorReads ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aaronfannin8174 exactly! There’s always another secret… wait, different series, but yes! Totally agree!

    • @dean1543
      @dean1543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CapturedInWords it would be cool to see a video on “what theories I got right VS what I got wrong” (whenever the 3rd book comes out)

    • @warbrothers7745
      @warbrothers7745 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CapturedInWords but in one of Patrick’s videos he has said he wants to write many more than 3 books in the universe because he loves it. I’m think he might get to about five before he passes.

  • @Drikonn
    @Drikonn ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I wrote a Reddit theory a couple years back that explains that Illien was an Adem musician, who traveled with his screen on his back. But as he traveled further, the screen became a tent that he would play inside of, still hiding him from his audience. Longer still it became a wagon and as he gained peers and followers, a new branch of the Adem was formed. If Adem means what most autonyms do, People or The People, then the Adem Latantha would be the people of the Sword Tree, and the traveling people, who follow the wind, would be the Adem Aeruh, or People of the Wind. Over time, as people joined Illien, the name and customs became corrupted into what are now known as the Edema Ruh.
    Bonus points, Illien, whose uncorrupted name was Yllien, ended his journey on an island in the south west, eventually founding the national of Yll

    • @FatJesus15
      @FatJesus15 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      My man.... This was very well thought out and put together. You have genuinely convinced me. I can very much see this

    • @joshuas1834
      @joshuas1834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow! Nice catch!

    • @reecejacobmusic
      @reecejacobmusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Mind blown! Yes mate

    • @henrydhamster1093
      @henrydhamster1093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came to the same conclusion as I read the book except for the Yll part.

    • @anthonywritesfantasy
      @anthonywritesfantasy ปีที่แล้ว

      🤯

  • @eternalsummer8409
    @eternalsummer8409 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Love how the fandom hasn’t died, it’s become “if pat won’t finish it then we’ll make our own lore”

    • @kylewood2715
      @kylewood2715 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Say what you will about Pat, he gave us an incredibly rich world to play with. If he does nothing else, I’m grateful for that at least

  • @thekwjiboo
    @thekwjiboo ปีที่แล้ว +27

    There is one thing that I've never seen anyone bring up. When Kvothe encounters the chandrian at the ruins of his troupe, Haliax says "who keeps you safe from..." and one of the things was the "singers".
    Fast forward to the Wise Man's fear when Kvothe has his magical battle with Felurian. Remember what he did? He sang 4 notes to dominate her. I've never seen anyone consider that possible connection.

  • @chippytwang
    @chippytwang ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Here's a literal connection I was hoping you'd bring up:
    > “If you fight for the good of others?”
    > “An Amyr,” I said without thinking.
    > She cocked her head at me. “That is an interesting choice,” she said.
    > Vashet held up her arm, displaying the red sleeve proudly. “We Adem are paid to guard, to hunt, to protect. We fight for our land and our school and our reputations. And we fight for the Lethani. With the Lethani. In the Lethani. All of these things together. The Adem word for one who takes the red is Cethan.” She looked up at me. “And it is a very proud thing.”

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh wow! If only I read just before the Vashet quote while doing research because I completely forgot Kvothe mentions the Amyr there!!

    • @DrewIsFail
      @DrewIsFail ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@CapturedInWords vashets forearm is red (via the cloath) similar to the amyr suggesting adem tradition might have it's roots in the same practice as, or directly in, the amyr. Or at least thats one possibility .

  • @zisandro9818
    @zisandro9818 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm going through just now my rereading of KKC, buy for what I remember I always had the impression that the Adem have common origin with the Edema Ruh. Adem and Ruach, sounds very similar to Edema Ruh, this always made me believing there was a connection between them.
    The Adem have been wandering the world before settling down, while the Edema Ruh kept wandering, becoming then the trouper we now know. Ruach could represent the common roots of both communities. Any thoughts?

  • @Morfeusm
    @Morfeusm ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I really enjoy these Kingkiller videos! Your passion for the material is palpable and it might be couple of years since I read the books so they are a good reminder!

    • @taylorandrews8236
      @taylorandrews8236 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! I got so hyped when I saw this

    • @guitoscano
      @guitoscano ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s how I found this channel, and even though I like other videos the Kingkiller ones are definitely my favorites :)

  • @kentnelson775
    @kentnelson775 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As frustrating as it is to not have the Doors of Stone out yet, I do think that its delay has allowed all these amazing theory videos.
    Sometimes the anticipation of something is so much more fun than when the anticipated things comes. Now I hope that the Doors of Stone is going to be all it should be but these videos are the anticipation I will probably enjoy the most.

  • @skykiller8386
    @skykiller8386 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    PLEASE make an in-depth summary of book 2!!!!! Doesn't matter it'll take a while, DO IT!!

  • @marcmarc4776
    @marcmarc4776 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you notice the chapters with Devi, there is always a mention of "opening doors" and always a mention of getting into the "archives". My theory is Kvothe will give Devi the secret route into the archives and she'll open the Doors of Stone.

    • @marcmarc4776
      @marcmarc4776 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Devi opened the door for me and widened her eyes in shock." -Chapter 50 TWMF

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I agree! I definitely think Kvothe will tell Devi about how to get into the Archives from the Underthing, and this could potentially put Auri in danger too. Which could possibly lead in to the "had to trick a demon & fight an angel" quote. I think it's highly likely Devi could be the one to open the 4-plate-door

    • @jamesrocheftw
      @jamesrocheftw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like behind the stone door will be all the missing information on the chandrian and it'll be what kicks off the quest to kill them

    • @tomaskadlec9534
      @tomaskadlec9534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CapturedInWords also at the end of The Name of the Wind, guys in the pub tell a story where Kvothe runs errands for a lady in Imre. That could totally be Devi

  • @fantsticfoxmister4330
    @fantsticfoxmister4330 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for making this video. One thing I was always curious about is the idea of motherhood in the Adem culture - and why Rothfuss is mentioning the idea of children without fathers in his books. Maybe it gives a hint to the true origin of Kvothe and that he is the offspring of an unknown power. Even his father said (mostly as a joke) that his wife had a child with an angle, when they where discussing Kvothes talents with Abenthy at the fire. So maybe the real Amyr (the one Felurian is mentioning) are the reason for the fatherless children of Adem and could hint to the theory that Kvothe is one of them as well - through birth and not just through his actions. (Remember, when Kvothe passed the test he gets an Adem name and the actions of Tempi where right, because he brought back “a lost son”).

  • @guillemtorcalgarcia2550
    @guillemtorcalgarcia2550 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my rereads I did think of the connection between the Edema Ruh and Adem Re (phonetically very similar), splitting from one faction at the start, and also the obvious link between the Edema Ruh and the Singers, but I never saw a connection with the Sithe and Amyr. I love this theory with the names in 3 parts (same as the silence, btw, seems to be a pattern). I guess I need to rerere...read again! Thanks for the vids, Jay, they make the wait so much better! I agree with some people's comments below: if you wrote the ending of this story, no matter how many books it took, I would buy them. Maybe something to think about ;)

  • @ohohook
    @ohohook ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The unspoken thing that Rothfuss wasn’t explaining is that the Sith from Star Wars and the Sithe from his books don’t have the same inspiration. The Sithe’s ACTUAL punctuation (which is an alternate spelling of the group of old Irish Gods you have a picture for in your video) is phonetically “shee.” As in bean-sithe or cait-sithe (woman fae and cat fae, respectively).
    Also- I never considered Haliax using Adem naming convention. That’s interesting (even though I’m overall mad Haliax is Bond villianing all the Chandrian weaknesses to Kvothe. In Aturan or all languages he probably knows). But since he seems to be speaking Aturan that’s a hard sell for me since he doesn’t do it for anything else. Unless Kvothe is sleeping-minding the Chandrian entire conversation. You’d just think Cinder would have more of a reaction to Kvothe responding to him if that was the case. Anyway, I digress.
    I also have some pretty solid evidence that Dulcen and Dalcenti of the Chandrian are one-in-the-same, and formerly of the Adem. But that’s a whole other thing. Nice video! Good material to discuss :)

  • @suemunro6833
    @suemunro6833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another point -- the Adem also have hangups about singing. It's viewed as a very powerful, personal, private thing. Connection (to the Edema Ruh, the Singers) there?

  • @quitabanana3684
    @quitabanana3684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for pronouncing sithe the way you do. I knew you must have known the “right” way, and were deliberating choosing to say it the “fan” way lol. I just can’t unlink Rothfuss’ pronunciation from Star Wars.

  • @redactedxx4219
    @redactedxx4219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may be biased because I'm a lifetime practitioner in martial arts and combatives particularly Filipino Martial arts that focus on short swords. I almost wanted him to stay training longer. But the story needed to progress I do have a theory about the man mothers part. Like all this time and you don't get how babies work? Weird belief for such practical people unless they have fae origins, and don't really require men for children. Could be why they are even a matriarchy.

  • @MegaC3DR1C
    @MegaC3DR1C ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think, the adem train with the sword tree is symbolically connected to the sithe and the chtae?
    In the sense that the adem train to avoid the leaves and so the influence of the tree and the sithe avoid the influence of the cthae (a tree Thing)?
    Does my rambling make any sense?

  • @mantis5208
    @mantis5208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that after this vid Rothfuss will delay 3rd book for another 5yrs

  • @SuperDoctor9
    @SuperDoctor9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This all makes too much sense to be coincidence and I love it. I forgot how hungry I am for some Kingkiller, I think a reread is in order. Excellent video

  • @metal-toilet7999
    @metal-toilet7999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your new background looks amazing. Miss the green walls but the bookshelves still look awesome. Keep up all the good work you do Jay.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'm pretty happy with the new set up! :)

  • @matthewwoolley4131
    @matthewwoolley4131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I wasn’t a huge fan of the Adem section upon my first read, but these are details and ideas I’ve not considered, and now i want to reread that section to see what details i can gleam

  • @rookietrader7717
    @rookietrader7717 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The mention of the singers in a different land was note worthy and the breaking of the group into 3 sub groups is interesting to think what caused it. The hate the adem have for singers is worth noting too.
    Have you done a theory video on Denna possibly being a shaper? How her hair knots magically shape her surroundings and why she is so keen on seeing if there is a written magic that takes her hair braids to the next level!

    • @Malygosblues
      @Malygosblues ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean her hair braids shape her surroundings?

    • @rookietrader7717
      @rookietrader7717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Malygosblues when her hair braids are read what they say becomes true which is why I think she is so quick to untie them when she notices someone able to read them. It happens several times and when she asks about a magic of writing I think she is asking to know more about her ability but the guys don’t have the answers she is looking for.

  • @atab6555
    @atab6555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these vids specially the theory ones though

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy them :D They're a lot of work but also a lot of fun to put together

  • @matthewparker9276
    @matthewparker9276 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This would make "Ruach" "The Amyr, The Singers, The Sithe." with the Sithe being the first group that became angels (i.e. went to the fae realm to watch over the Ctheah, among other duties) the Amyr being the second group that swore to hunt the seven for what they had done (i.e. founded Ademre and did a lot of fighting) and the Singers the third group that went their own way (i.e. start the traditions of the Edema Ruh).
    If humans aren't descendants of Ruach though, the Edema would have much more human genetics than the Adem because of the millenia of mingling freely with humans and even accepting many into their family

    • @Wodan_II
      @Wodan_II ปีที่แล้ว

      nice conclusion

  • @Daijinthetripod
    @Daijinthetripod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We now need the Lost Orgin of Captured in Words.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's top secret 👀 classified information

  • @hamdinger7145
    @hamdinger7145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to read Doors of Stone

  • @Kenb3d1
    @Kenb3d1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always appreciate the great King Killer content. This theory seems sound to me, I'm intrigued by the future narrative implications. We know that the Scrael are crossing the Stormwal mountains, as we haven't yet been introduced to many locations in that region, this likely means whatever Rift has been opened is either close to Haert or the Tahlenwald. Will Kvothe find this connection between the Amyr and the Adem and use it to convince them to fight the Scrael? Check back in 2026 to find out 😁

  • @Mawlivander
    @Mawlivander ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been waiting MONTHS for you to bust this one out, brometheus! Well done and Tusen tak!

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already working on the next Kingkiller vid!

  • @matthewparker9276
    @matthewparker9276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have long considered the Adem descendants of the third group of Ruach, but you are right that them being the descendants of the Ciridae fits well with what we know.

  • @Wodan_II
    @Wodan_II ปีที่แล้ว +1

    comment, comment. algorithm, algorithm

  • @MrMark069
    @MrMark069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you know how to pronounce it properly and you still mispronounce it intentionally. Normally I wouldn't mind, but it's just jarring to hear it wrong over and over again. Otherwise good theories and you're definately on Rofkuss think because he has done all this very subtle hinting on purpose.

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I can't win 😂 I pronounced Sithe properly (like Sith) in a previous video and got several comments telling me that's dumb and I should say it more like Scythe. Honestly with Star Wars and everything, it does seem odd to pronounce it like Sith. I think if you're reading a fantasy book with made up words you should feel free to pronounce things whichever way you want, especially if it looks like how it should be pronounced. Glad you enjoyed the video! Rothfuss definitely likes his subtle clues

    • @bobisu3111
      @bobisu3111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CapturedInWords I prefer "Sithe" as well, "Sith" just doesn't fit.

  • @Megaloathyou
    @Megaloathyou 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rothfuss was born in 1973 and ‘A New Hope’ was released in 1977…but sure he came up with the name and pronunciation of Sithe first….when he was 4 years old or younger…..the more I hear rothfuss talk the more I react with ‘god. What a dick’

  • @thekwjiboo
    @thekwjiboo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an interesting topic for a KK theory video. Since it's Kvothe telling the story, and we don't know how reliable of a narrator he is, the topic could be "how much of Kvothe's tale is total BS?".

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've wanted to talk about Kvothe being an unreliable narrator for a while now! I'll definitely make a video on it at some point!

    • @thekwjiboo
      @thekwjiboo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CapturedInWords an angle to approach it could be not only IS he an unreliable narrator, but if he is, why? When he was a student he needed to build a reputation so he could get people to look past his age and hide the fact to how poor he was, so he had a reason to create the Kvothe mythos. But if he's just telling his life story to "set the record straight" (considering how there are already countless crazy fantastic stories about him already) what would he gain by further inaccuracies...Unless it's part of his plan, whatever that may be.

  • @WTFxDiglettxFTW
    @WTFxDiglettxFTW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video! i really like this theory.
    1 thing that you got wrong, is Roach in hebrew does not mean "breath".
    Breath is "Neshima"

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed! Ohh okay, I got the info from FirmIsrael.org it says "Ruach (pronounced roo-akh) is the Hebrew word for spirit, breath, or wind. When spoken, the word engages one's breath and lungs."

    • @WTFxDiglettxFTW
      @WTFxDiglettxFTW ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CapturedInWords depends on how the word is spoken in the sentence. But when using slang it might come up.

  • @thomasvanpelt118
    @thomasvanpelt118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a MTG and Kingkiller fan, I appreciate the some of the art choices.

  • @bendinardo3991
    @bendinardo3991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your connection to similar groups in Wheel of Time - I had the same thoughts when I was reading!

    • @sealriously-sealrious9768
      @sealriously-sealrious9768 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just finished reading Wheel of Time and I had the same thought! Very happy to see other people saw a connection too

  • @aboynamedpseuwithphilgibso935
    @aboynamedpseuwithphilgibso935 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Ru are descendants/relatives of the Adem, then what initially incited the Adem’s severe aversion towards music and the performing arts?

  • @matthewspencer2094
    @matthewspencer2094 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much about each of the Adem, Sithe, Edema, Amyr are inconsistant. Some in ways that seem poetic, some in ways that seem chaotic. It's going to be interesting to see how it ties together.
    Adem don't ride, Sithe are The Riders, Edema Ruh are great riders and judges of horses, The Amyr are described as using horses
    Sithe seem to wake up and choose violence, The Amyr don't seem uncomfortable with or excited by it, Adem regard view killing as an unfortunate, Edema Ruh avoid confrontation
    Sithe are described as wearing white, Adem wearing read to hide blood or white because if they are good enough to avoid injuries... The Amyr seem to revel in the symbology of sacrifice
    The Adem have distinctive grey eyes, Edema Ruh eyes have a "Ruh Look" (Kvothe has that "Ruh Look" and his are fay looking green, color changing, ringed in gold... like his non Ruh born mothers?!?)
    Sithe seem to be a shaped (presumably "pure") race, Adem have a narrow gene pool, Edema are a culture not a race, Amyr may be an organization, people, culture or combination.
    Sithe use bows, Adem use swords, Edema Ruh don't have a associated weapon, The Amyr are unknown... Interestingly the Adem schools began with archery and didn't initially seem to value swordsmanship, yet have ancient swords they know the unbroken history of which seemingly predate their exile and origin...

  • @jeremy-royyoung7122
    @jeremy-royyoung7122 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to point out that Ruh in Edema Ruh sound very much like Roux (French word for Readhair) and Edema and Adame are very similar. Rothfuss already reversed the ''A'' and ''E'' for Ferula and Ferule.

  • @benjaminhough8804
    @benjaminhough8804 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Adem always frustrated me. Now, don’t get me wrong, this is nothing wrong with the book or it’s author and enjoy this section and it offers so much depth.
    But the Adem are very racist. I mean, they insist that they are civilized and all other barbarians (offensive to be sure). But when Kvothe is genuinely interested in their culture and seeks to become “civilized” they scoff and shun him. They also only blame Kvothe. Kvothe was an innocent party simply interested. Tempi could have shut that down instantly, but Tempi shared the secrets. If Kvothe “stole” the way of the Adem, then Tempi is an accomplice and perhaps even more guilty because Kvothe couldn’t have known he was “stealing” anything. In fact, Kvothe proves himself even more by offering to go with Tempi nearly the instant he learns what shouldn’t have happened.
    Also, if they are civilization and are the only only civilized people wouldn’t they want to civilize the barbarians? They are incredibly arrogant, shunning the world, but refusing to do anything that would make it better (according to their views).

  • @ericlancaster412
    @ericlancaster412 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy your videos on this series, well done.
    The part about not understanding how father's work was just odd - this was the Ademre, right? Surely they must have some woman in the tribe who isn't into guys and has not babies, then gets into guys and starts having them. Or some stranger with a different appearance shows up and out pops a baby that looks like him from the woman who likes him? Do they not have animals? Surely they must have figured out how it works for pigs, sheep, cows, dogs, cats, etc. I think most human cultures figured this stuff out millennia ago. I guess it's just flavor but it's weird that this is somehow harder to accept that all the magic....

  • @mariojimenez691
    @mariojimenez691 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in the 13th book of the Wheel of Time, and yes, Patrick took quite a bit of inspiration from the Aiel and the Tuatha'an cultures.

  • @MartinaSinT
    @MartinaSinT ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this video made me think about how the Adem "don't talk". Maybe it's too long of a stretch, but if the Adem are in fact descendants of the Amyr/Sithe/Singers, developing a sign language system just to avoid talking about the Chandrian looks like a for-the-greater-good thing to do. It also prevents the Adem from "naming", thus avoiding the use of the kind of magic that can tempt you to change the world, like the shappers did.
    These videos are the only thing quenching my thirst for KKC, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  • @mindblubb9578
    @mindblubb9578 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also have a theory:
    Maybe our good Jay found out the real name of Peter Rothfuss, so Jay is pressuring Peter Rothfuss to prolong the publication of the book.
    Think about it for a socond, who would benefit the most?
    If not Jay himself??!!
    Jay would benefit the most from delaying the release making all these incredible good videos about theories and lores and more.
    AND he would have the most to lose! Because when everyone knew the true endings, it makes all new theories redundant.
    Now let's be honest, Jay's videos on The Kingkiller Chronicles are the backbone of his success here and without all the theories and sharing in the comments about them it would be dead here...
    Sorry Jay, but since I've been very careful not to mention my name, you have no power over me!
    I challenge you to delay the publication for a maximum of 1 year and a day.
    So you have enough time to put your main focus on another field and we can finally look forward to the releases.
    By my tapping fingers I bind you

  • @marganaapsinthia
    @marganaapsinthia ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first read the book, I just assumed that Sithe were inspired by Aes Sidhe (shee-eh) from Irish folklore. Nothing can convince me they aren't, the similarities are too many to be just a coincidence. Besides, the English speaking people tend to twist other languages to resemble English, so much so it sounds unrecognisable to the natives. So I think I'll stick to the Irish pronunciation.

  • @joancalvetmolinas4425
    @joancalvetmolinas4425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved it as always, but how would we link this “first lineage” from which we can trace the Adem, Sithe and Singers with the concept of Shapers vs. Knowers?? I’d love to dig more into it.. Like at what point do Shapers become an enemy

  • @jake505710
    @jake505710 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    best KKC videos on the internet. such solid predictions and well delivered

  • @damianhg4848
    @damianhg4848 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Adem are known for their sign language. If you have to pick guardians for the Cthaeh, what would you pick? Deaf people. It would make sense for the Sithe to sacrifice their hearing for their duty and use sign language to communicate. This would be the origin of this peculiarity of the Adem.

  • @ryanharbinson8245
    @ryanharbinson8245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could "the name of music" be locked up in the chest at the base of kvothe's bed? Are the Edema Ruh the singers of which Haliax "keeps you safe from?

  • @mikeshevock2495
    @mikeshevock2495 ปีที่แล้ว

    The more I watch these types of videos, the more I'm convinced Patrick Rothfuss cannot finish the books sufficiently. There are too many connections and links that he just cannot possibly wrap up with any measure of accuracy. But man, I really want the last book...

  • @seanburke997
    @seanburke997 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope Patrick Rothfuss watches these videos. Maybe they'll give him ideas for finishing the third book.

  • @guitarguy07
    @guitarguy07 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Adem are spiritually Buddhists. Disciples of the Buddha are often referred to as mendicants FYI

  • @Magnify.
    @Magnify. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video again

  • @morsumbra9692
    @morsumbra9692 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the Adem having Origin lineage also explains why pregnancy and disease work differently for the Adem, and the man-mother thing is legit hilarious to them.

  • @thekwjiboo
    @thekwjiboo ปีที่แล้ว

    Not so much a theory but a question. Do you think Arliden and Laurien are Kvothe's biological parents?

  • @ri3sch
    @ri3sch ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The editing of these videos is always top notch

  • @erkencikus2332
    @erkencikus2332 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we should study on why does music creeps Adems out? If sithes, adems and amyrs were one group with same goals and Haliax meant Edema Ruh by singers all this time, then there is a mystery about the connection between music, magic, Singers and Adems, Rothfuss is giving a hint to us!

  • @Radio.Chicken
    @Radio.Chicken ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time you have a new theory video it's so new and fresh (to me) and so inspiring and awesome, great work! I always look forward to your King Killer videos! :D

  • @JordanDS1
    @JordanDS1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the exact same theory you do about the Edema Ruh being the same as the Adem just them having never stopped travelling. It sounds like they could descend from the Amyr possibly? Like the people received help from the amyr as they were trying to settle down

  • @anthonywritesfantasy
    @anthonywritesfantasy ปีที่แล้ว

    Mendicant makes me think of tinkers: wandering, homeless, begging... At least the tinker Jax met.

  • @Wizardjudge
    @Wizardjudge ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend of the 99 instruction tales shares some strong similarities to passages in the Bhagavad Gita and the discussion/arguments between Vishnu and Arjuna about war and fighting.

  • @thekwjiboo
    @thekwjiboo ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, and by the way, I think I know why Cinder was bumming around with those bandits in book 2. If you want, I'll be happy to explain.

  • @tondamon8015
    @tondamon8015 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had made mention of Kvothe having a star on his brow when fighting Felurian. I f remember correctly, doesn't one over the previous owners of his sword get referenced as " of the clear and shining brow."?

  • @benbenxo7708
    @benbenxo7708 ปีที่แล้ว

    one more clue in Hebrew
    Aleph = the first latter of the Hebrew alphabet
    א = אלף
    also ruh = can also mean ghost
    just letting you know
    love your videos

  • @MrAtnarama7
    @MrAtnarama7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos, and I ‘m very sorry that my comment is regarding a nitpick but every time you mentioned the Adems dressed in leather my fingers itch. Tempi is not dressed in leather but rather “his shirt was held tight against his body with a dozen soft leather straps. His pants, too” later there is another mention that said “I reached and touched the red leather straps that held the FABRIC of his shirt tight to his body”… there are 59 mentions to leather in the second book, non of them said they were dressed in leather. I’m sorry, I’m a nerd, but I have read the books dozens of times and really bothered me. As I said I love your videos and theories. 😅

  • @hotelcartelradio
    @hotelcartelradio 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pure bloodline? Ain't that called inbred society? 😂

  • @Sugo23
    @Sugo23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible that the cthaeh and the sword tree have some connections? They are strikingly similar in terms of appearance and aura, however they are complete opposites as well. Kept in perfect balance, as one resides in the fae realm, and the other in the mortal world? One stands for the good, brining peace and serenity to those around it, while the other brings destruction and despair? Curious if you ever thought about this.

  • @edgarsf45
    @edgarsf45 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video, i was wondering if there is any chance we got the second book a In-depth Summary like the first book :)

  • @salmonofknowledge3229
    @salmonofknowledge3229 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Holy Order Amyr is similar to the Holy Roman Empire, a pale imitation of the former, greater Amyr/Rome

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I definitely agree! I think that was likely the inspiration

  • @blauwepenguin970
    @blauwepenguin970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adem is the dutch word for breath. Might mean nothing but still...

  • @odiums_taint
    @odiums_taint ปีที่แล้ว

    while rothfuss is lying about his beating starwars to the sith, he may not have taken it directly from them… he was more likely ‘influenced’ by tad williams.

  • @Sugo23
    @Sugo23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You absolutely blew my mind when you said the enemy of the chandrian could be The Amyr, the Edema Ruh, and the Adem 🤯

  • @josephhirsch3743
    @josephhirsch3743 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Adem also have separate words for Iron and Sword Iron, indicating they are two separate things

  • @fireyhto808
    @fireyhto808 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a part of the book where Vashet is questioning Kvothe about the Adem and he literally compares them to the Amyr

  • @believeroflight9888
    @believeroflight9888 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the author who completes kkc after patrick goes the robert jordan way discusses the book with you.

  • @michealliamhoulihan3608
    @michealliamhoulihan3608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep up the good work. I love when you make a new KingKiller video. You really do good work 👏

  • @anthonytrautwein9918
    @anthonytrautwein9918 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a video that talks about the parallels between the stories told by Trapis about Tehlu, and the one Skarpi tells about Lanre? I cant be the only one that sees this, but can’t find any analytical breakdown or comparison of the two.

  • @Jourdan0311
    @Jourdan0311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The adem/edema ruh connections closely parallel the tinkers /aiel from wheel of time😮

  • @viktorkolaric4156
    @viktorkolaric4156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly Adem were never too interesting to me. they are basically an embodiment of Eastern mysticism, which i know is mostly bs.

  • @elizabethfinn4992
    @elizabethfinn4992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wondering if you had done any analysis of the rings Kvothe wore as recited in Chapter 2 of WMF

    • @CapturedInWords
      @CapturedInWords  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't yet, however I'd definitely like to talk about that in a future video as I do have some notes on them

  • @SingingSealRiana
    @SingingSealRiana ปีที่แล้ว

    I am confused by the question, whatever the sith are human or not . . . given they are part of the fae court, reside in the fae realm and where the name comes from(, not star wars obviously and our dear author used the word way more fittingly then lukas) I thought it was a given they are fae

  • @WizardKingCorey
    @WizardKingCorey ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a look at the books that Eloden had the students looking for. They are a clue, what was found, what they were titled, and how they were perceived.

  • @xoxlove6101
    @xoxlove6101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it, but it's too close to the wheel of time, especially given how both are described- pail and blonde hair

  • @erharvest4909
    @erharvest4909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Blade Tree dinal test symbolic of the Cathea tree????

  • @tombarber2561
    @tombarber2561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good noticing a similarity between the Kingkiller Chronicles and the Wheel of Time. I suspect the same thing.

  • @kalaldin9154
    @kalaldin9154 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Edema Rue and the Adem bear some similarities to the Aiele and the Tinkers of Wheel of Time…

  • @PiusOnes
    @PiusOnes ปีที่แล้ว

    do you find it a weird coincidence that 99 hands and 99 words? maybe something there?

  • @Nirad-jt7en
    @Nirad-jt7en ปีที่แล้ว

    I think none of this matters because Patrick Rothfus will never finish the series.

  • @kiera_rdh6697
    @kiera_rdh6697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolute side note but Rothfuss for real said “Star Wars stole Sith(e) from me?” It came out before he was born 😂 Fantastic video as always!

  • @the8thsquare
    @the8thsquare ปีที่แล้ว

    When you say the name "Caesura," as the sword, it's also means "comma." So it also means a pause or lapse.

  • @samcecil2928
    @samcecil2928 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly hated the man mother thing, the idea that a culture could be so dumb that they dont know how kids are made is ridiculous.

  • @SingingSealRiana
    @SingingSealRiana ปีที่แล้ว

    I think, kvothe would notice, if his sword where made of stone . . .

  • @quitabanana3684
    @quitabanana3684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just so happen to be listening to the name of the wind right now and came to Skarpi’s story which is so much better than I remembered it. But in it, he describes Lanre almost exactly the way Kvothe was described when he was with the Adem and they said he has darkness in him, something the lethani cannot mend. Selitos saw in Lanre that he had a darkness that couldn’t be fixed after Lyra died. It lines up very nicely. So I think that lends tons of credence to the idea that the Amyr are the ancestors of the Adem, with kvothe being more closely related to Lanre/the Chandrian

  • @brendanroth2188
    @brendanroth2188 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I have t seen u talk about is the naked woman on the chandrian vase. I feel like it’s got to be Denna or Florian

  • @lucky13dk
    @lucky13dk ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the amyr are the professors at the school and there gonna be part of a bigger group

  • @Silverfire308
    @Silverfire308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The scene that i remember the most regarding the amyr was in wise mans fear when he was conducting malfeasance and had blood running down his arms and hands. If i remember correctly, his squad or himself made connections towards that.

  • @grubmab
    @grubmab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The duality of the lethani as a religion and a martial art is such a cool idea

  • @wayneman5275
    @wayneman5275 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Kvothe´s sword. I have it on my wall :)

  • @luisguerrero9292
    @luisguerrero9292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theory
    The adem= the scythe
    The ru= singers