Thermals are tested here: th-cam.com/video/rSCRgvxjDwU/w-d-xo.html Freesync update from AMD: We have identified an issue on a select number of units where AMD FreeSync appears greyed out in the control panel. We have updated the drivers on amd.com to enable every Dell G5 15 SE users to enjoy AMD FreeSync technology to fully leverage the AMD Advantage. Please make sure to expand and download the driver noted ‘Adrenalin 2020 for DELL G5 15 SE Laptops’.
@@JarrodsTech I actually ordered one already (but I just went for the 4600H model) I just still haven't really seen any quality info regarding the 5600M yet.
after seeing horrible thermals in OwnorDisown video - not so much. also thanks AMD for cutting V-ram to only 4gb compared to desktop versions which have 6 and 8 gb most often
@@TabalugaDragon www.amd.com/en/gaming/gaming-laptops-dellg515se#AMD-Radeon™ ... 5600m = 6gb ... but yeah, you are right with the thermals of this machine. they are pretty bad
Then, let's review Ryzen 7 4800h with 2060 in Eluktronics Matrix RP, and make it compare with another laptop again, to see how much different Ryzen 7 4800H this one with another
@@lxDastanxl Yes, but DELL isn't exactly well known for its quality cooling (and 4800H is experiencing some thermal issues in DELL as a result- which can easily impact/reduce GPU performance too).
I always find that a price/performance analysis is a good way to compare, you might want to start adding that info. $$$/Avg FPS is a nice metric when going for most value.
I was really hoping it will atleast match the 2060 max-q in G14, well looks like the G14 is better for gaming even though it has a lower TDP CPU & GPU, haven't seen any stellar ryzen device since the G14 unfortunately.
@@EddoWagt really? where did you hear that? i read it will have many different screen choices, including oled and UHD, so maybe the lower tier screens are bad?
does the monitor is freesync ips like the msi alpha 15 ? the msi one is 400 € more expensive. i don't know if msi abuse of covid or maybe product has better design.
After 2 years still nothing could beat the Helios 300's price to performance ratio! we gotta respect Acer for their reasonably priced products compared to the shenanigans out there.
The Y540 costs approximately 1150$ where I am, while the helios costs 1350$. So what I think is that both helios and Y540 are the best due to different countries pricing.
@@dragonnf5255 Exactly, and the Y540 can achieve same performance as Helios 300 with 0.125UV and gpu OC. I have Y540 and it's hell of a machine. Loving the experience so far.
Thank you for the reviews. Just got it today and loaded up Rift. Does 60+ fps at 1080p with no issues. Rift graphics are pretty demanding at max. Ran the FFXIV Benchmark and scored 10,102 at Maximum Graphics at 1080p fullscreen. FFXIV average frame rate was 73 FPS. Also thanks for the thermal video. It does run warm. I suggest a laptop cooler to possibly limit yourself from being throttled by thermals. I didn't test high performance mode and I probably won't ever use it. I'm good with 60fps+ at 1080p. Next on my list I guess would be to upgrade to a bigger SSD and max out the memory. Because of your reviews this was an instant purchase for me after researching it. The price was worth it. I purchased it online at Best Buy. It was the Dell G5 model number: I5505-A753GRY-PUS This was NOT the G5 Special Edition as reviewed in this video though. If you buy this laptop, make sure to boot it up, let windows install and the first thing you should do is get the latest BIOS from the dell website.
The smartshift technology is a bit underwhelming here, compared to the advertised 10%+ performance gains due to automated optimization - and the one here, I don't see any good reasons to switch over 5600m when 2060 performs better. 5600m also uses 100 watts here and I see some people saying that It's better than 2060 in some cases. Pretty confused maybe because of the thermal issues or just a bios update will fix this? The price is good though ngl. Also asus TUF A15 or G15 is also a great choice but the damn screen and thermal issues due to design flaw is a game-breaking decision so maybe this dell or the upcoming HP omen with ryzen cpu is a good choice, will just wait for a bit.
Turing based GPUs have had 2 years to build driver optimizations. That's one area where AMD is going to become better over time, as they have proven time and time again. While Radeon GPU is 100W, I think it's because it's the smartshift number, so total power consumption does not increase. Price is the most important aspect though, otherwise why just not get the 2080 super version. Lets hope OEMs would bring more AMD models soon, as I have to buy new laptop in August-September and I would really want some affordable AMD laptop that can be used for gaming too.
Thank you Jarrod! Looking forward to the full review. This is the first set of testing that's given me a clear picture of the performance. TBH, I was expecting a smidgen more horsepower, but I'd still be happy with this.
I really appreciate your review on this laptop. If this is more on the 1660 Ti level, I’m trying to understand why other TH-cam reviews are pushing it to be on 2060 to 2070 levels. Very inconsistent reviews. I personally love it. I don’t think many games now a days are going to get you more than 80 FPS on high settings anyway unless you pay 1500 and up. I think it’s worth the purchase.
@@JarrodsTech On most units the SE seem to get too damn hot with the current SmartShift.. My unit is still in China, so i hope it will not that toasty like tomshardware tested out - Is there a statement from Dell or AMD about the heat issues?! Whats your opinion on your Unit?
If you manage to find it for under 1200 or equal to that . Helios 300 is a better choice. But I personally can't seem to find it under 1400u.s. so if you really need a laptop the g5se is a better value for your money atm.
@@shamircarrillo1449 i saw that the helios outperformed the g5. but some people say that overall the g5 is a better pick. so i got confused. i guess ill just stick to my initial decision and get the helios
not going to lie if acer dropped the price again on the helios 300 with i5+1660 ti 15" i would buy it instead lol that laptop has been sold for 889 on amazon and i still regret not picking it up. in my mind i feel most 1660 ti laptop should decrease prices. maybe its a dumb idea but since i'm seeing super rtx dgpu configs on laptops coming out...why not? another laptop is rog strix g with same config. it comes with single channel ram 8gb. they were steady on 949 on amazon and asus site. they were sold out on that price on amazon. on asus store page they stuck on that price for almost a month until it went up to 999. great laptop but i would assume in these times. people would rather save to buy extra ram on it if it was cheaper. im sold on this laptop. supposedly they are going to make a version of the same base models with 120hz displays with the same 880 price. i dont know when. but i would still buy it since i play on external displays. these benchmarks are too good.
@Rohan Rathour 10300 is slightly better than 4600h at gaming when paired with identical gpus. 4600H is a much better option if you do a lot of content creation tho.
not really worth it. Only gives around an increase of 5 FPS compared to the 1650 model. But if it's as cheap as 1650 models in your region, then it's an okay buy (1660ti is much better value for money though)
@@RaiPalk78 Another pissed AMD fanboy lol th-cam.com/video/dpZw16wTlmY/w-d-xo.html Take a look at the i5 laptop benchmarks and compare with this one. 5600M gives 26 fps in RDR 2 on Ultra settings LOL 🤣
Even though I owned that combo very briefly (HP Omen 15) and wasn't completely satisfied with it, still its performance was better than this junk that AMD and Dell came up with
Great video as usual ! I'll wait 'till the full review, as I'll have to get a new laptop this month, and I'm interested in this one (new AMD-based laptops are pretty expensive in France :/ )
Hey, you are great, you have such a neutral accent , it's easy for non English speakers to understand you. And on your recommendation I have bought Lenovo l340. Now my brother is looking for a business laptop, if you can make some videos on small compact laptops like dell XPS and high performing laptops like dell precision it will be great. Thanks a lot.
I Was expecting your review after Dave Lee said this was close to a RTX 2070 Max Q. A little bit dissapointed but still great value for the price. On the other side, it is amazing how you manage to pull out a comment in every graph of every review you make. Haven't you been in the situation where you where there is nothing to say about the graph and then it would be like:"Ok here are results for XXXX .....next one"
Hey Jarrod can you do a performance benchmark when using external monitors? I'm split between buying the G5 and A15. The G5, while it is great, it seems underwhelming compared to other laptops. But, it has a mini displayport which not all laptops, especially the A15, have. The A15 would've been ideal and perfect for me but I contacted ASUS and they told me the Type-C DisplayPort is connected to the iGPU rather than the DGPU. So if I was to connect to the Type-C DP will there be any performance drop off on the A15? Please I've been looking for answers no one really talks about this
Oh yeah! Jarrod's including MHW in the game tests! I hope you can continue to use this game for your benchmarks. If I could make a suggestion, you could try to finish the game all the way up to the end game and try testing out the guiding lands for your testing. this game is stupidly taxing on pc I'd like to see how different laptops can handle this game. I'd say guiding lands is the best way to test MHW on laptops. Im also really curious to see the thermal performance on your testing using MHW Jarrod. Me and a friend of mine run at around 80-90 degrees C on the CPU when playing with our 8th gen laptops I wonder if newer laptops can handle this game better.
Hey Jarrod, nice video dude! but I have a question, what do you think is the best over all laptop (good for editing,good battery life, pretty light) and also upgradibility (ram and also storage) for a budget of $1,000? Is this a good contender?
Do you got plans to get the Lenovo Legion 5 series? Either with intel or the ryzen 7 4800h cpus? Those should have much better cooling than Asus Tuf a15 and they should have some thermal throttle build in like helios. Looks good tbh
I know you've basically done your gaming review of this now, but at any point did you throw any VR games at it? Would be interesting to see if the AMD CPU/GPU combo is actually up to the task.
Check the performance of rtx 2060 in games with DDLS 2.0 support. This closes the discussion on the comparison with GTX 1660 TI and AMD 5600m in a future perspective.
Hey Jarrod, I would love to see some aspects of the BIOS covered in your videos I bought the Helios 300 but I didn't knew the it was a poor BIOS, and after installing Linux I realised that there was several issues such as -fan & backlighting control only through acer's "predatorsense" software -the default SSD storage with RST that made installing other drives a pain -issues with the bootloader Had I known I would have chosen an other laptop, I think it would be a complementary note on your already great videos
I found a strange pattern: comparing with 2060 in asus tuf a15 you have reviewed, in some games, if not most, 5600m will have higher fps in lower setting in games, while 2060 will win at higher setting levels. lol.
@@jay-5061 No, or at least not just that, it's smart shift in action, at lower settings there is less load on the GPU and the CPU usually becomes the limiting factor, with the G5 that lightening of the GPU load allows it to give more power to the CPU.
Thanks Jarrod, I am considering this and the zeph g14 -1650ti. I am a blue teamer, and game occasionally -mainly dota. Portability is a priority. Which would u recommend between this and the g14 ?
Be interesting to see how the performance of the 5600m improves in time with new drivers etc. I have a feeling future comparisons will put it more in line with an RTX 2060 rather than a 1660ti. For the price, I feel like this particular setup is tough to beat...outside of gaming that 4800 cpu is a beast!
Hey Jarrod, do you already have a FireStrike Score ? I am always very curious in how laptops compare to my model, especially how much power you cant get for less money over the years.
I tried, but I can't do it, the PWM is too bad and I'm too noob to work out how to do it properly lol, but it looked like 40ms at 60Hz from my attempt, the 144Hz is better but I don't have that.
You won't play with ray tracing on mobile rtx 2060. Unless you are a fan of the Cinematic experience ergo 24 FPS. RX is cheaper, and ryzen setups are a bit less toasty. So unless you need cuda cores/tensor cores for something, go with RX
@@pixelpox11 why is everyone saying that it is impossible to ply with ray tracing on rtx2060 mobile when it's able to do that ? with dlss on it become much better
@@WenYSiow I didn't say it's impossible. It's just not a smooth experience. DLSS 2 is great but it creates artifacts. If you are okay with that then sure go ahead. If you want to save a buck then go with RX is all I'm saying.
Hi Jarrod, have you tested the helios 300 with gtx2060? And do you have a document where you have written all those fps you obtained with different laptops?
I hope you can compare this to the new G5 with the i7 10750H and gtx1660TI , since they are very similar in specs and price , I don’t know which one would perform better so that I can choose , great review as always Jarrod🙂👍
Goodday, a Canadian here. I currently have the Dell G3, but i am still within my 30day return policy. Should i exchange my laptop? Dell G3 - 2019 model - I7 9750 - 1660ti - 512gb - 144hz refresh screen - rgb keyboard Dell G5 se - the same model tested in this video - rgb keyboard Community... What do you think? P.S the G3 is $350 less expensive.
It is a nice video for reviewing dell g5 se. Since the stock thermal paste from dell is very very very bad so I think after repasting, the thermal will improve. For example, I bought del g5 5587(i7 8750h, gtx1060maxq) in August 2018 and just after I bought it, I played csgo and the thermal reaches 100 degree of Celsius but the clock speed still remains 3.9ghz and tdp still remains 50W. After repasting and undervolting, the thermal was always below 80. Now I still use it and I love it because it has red case. I also hope that you can review new dell alienware m15r3/m17r3 because they have vapor chamber and I want to know that whether thermal of these laptops improve or not. Thank you.
an enhanced gtx 1660ti, slightly better in some more optimized games (gotta take the cpu into consideration in the benchmarks, intel still has a slight edge in most games)
@@JarrodsTech I think it seems slower than the 1660 Ti considering the higher power consumption though. The only 1660 Ti laptops it beats either use the R7 3750H which is a lousy CPU or are using the 1660 Ti in Max Q configuration with only 60W which is 40% less power than the 5600M
I think that the acer helios 300 is a much better option, at least for pure gaming. For other stuff, like video editing, virtualization, developing APIs, etc. i think ryzen cpus are the best option But, for now, intel(8 or 9 gen) + nvidia graphics are the best price value option i think
Ah, finally. Thanks Jarrod! Awesome your video, but I can't say right now that the G5 15 is awesome. Seems like it's far behind the Asus Tuf A15, that's unfortunate due to very similar pricing. At the Tuf you get a little bit weaker screen (still enough for gaming) but all over better perfomance for the price.
There is a driver bug preventing freesync. Use CRU to fix it :) Also a bug which drives up temp when using internal monitor, but not present at external apparently.
Really sad that this is the only model coming out this year with the smartshift feature. Frank Azor recently announced that no more smartshift laptops will be coming this year, have to wait until 2021 :/ really unfortunate
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Thermals are tested here: th-cam.com/video/rSCRgvxjDwU/w-d-xo.html
Freesync update from AMD: We have identified an issue on a select number of units where AMD FreeSync appears greyed out in the control panel. We have updated the drivers on amd.com to enable every Dell G5 15 SE users to enjoy AMD FreeSync technology to fully leverage the AMD Advantage. Please make sure to expand and download the driver noted ‘Adrenalin 2020 for DELL G5 15 SE Laptops’.
Please test battery life too :)
I WAS WAITING THANKS MAN!
Yes
Eagerly waiting for it. It has a 60hz screen though right?
Should I buy it or wait for the 144hz model to arrive
@@RohanKumar-yj7sz I bought it with the 60Hz screen so I would have data for both in the review, but you can go 144Hz.
Such a shame that Dell is super overpriced in the Asia Pacific 😢
:(
yeah, dont know why but the price of this option much be at least 1k2$ for R7+RX5600
and still bad gaming laptops
Asus Variants are less costly and are definitely better
Yeah. Dell sux here. Better off buying Ryzen 4000 with RTX.
The video everybody has been waiting for!
Hope it helps!
@@JarrodsTech I actually ordered one already (but I just went for the 4600H model) I just still haven't really seen any quality info regarding the 5600M yet.
after seeing horrible thermals in OwnorDisown video - not so much. also thanks AMD for cutting V-ram to only 4gb compared to desktop versions which have 6 and 8 gb most often
@@TabalugaDragon www.amd.com/en/gaming/gaming-laptops-dellg515se#AMD-Radeon™ ... 5600m = 6gb ... but yeah, you are right with the thermals of this machine. they are pretty bad
@@TabalugaDragon I'm not sure I trust that review. Not sniping at the reviewer, it just felt a little bare.
Last time I was this early, Laptops didn't look like clamshells
well, the Apple ibook G3 was literally a clamshell
Dang you haven’t been this early since before July 21, 1999?
We're going back in time
These clamshell allow you to upgrade ram and storage. I miss that.
@@andreszhoutsang9645 I know, got one at home
Ahh, I was waiting for this review thanks a lot ^.
No problem!
Then, let's review Ryzen 7 4800h with 2060 in Eluktronics Matrix RP, and make it compare with another laptop again, to see how much different Ryzen 7 4800H this one with another
They told me they'd be sending it over after notebookcheck are done with it.
That's good news, let's waiting and keep watching your videos
@@lxDastanxl Yes, but DELL isn't exactly well known for its quality cooling (and 4800H is experiencing some thermal issues in DELL as a result- which can easily impact/reduce GPU performance too).
i would like to see this gpu performance being compared with 1660ti or rtx2060
I will compare with both soon!
It seems like the 5600m is pretty similar to the 1660TI +- 5fps.
TheKims at 40W more power draw than a 1660ti Max-Q.. terribly inefficient
@@bobbywobby1141 yea, that surprise me too. Didnt get why that happening since RX5600M using 7nm tech
Bobby Wobby i heard its closer to 2060
YAYYYYYYY Thanks finally been wanting a review of this I bet everyone who's lookin for a good budget has been too
I always find that a price/performance analysis is a good way to compare, you might want to start adding that info. $$$/Avg FPS is a nice metric when going for most value.
Great review Jarrod :)
5600M GPU chip is looking good so far!
Have a great week
Thanks you too!
When can we see the strix scar 15 and s15 review?
I’m also waiting for the s15
No ETA, however there is an ASUS launch event in 1-2 weeks so maybe more info then.
Most analytical reviewer tells me what I want hope you grow larger and get a team to review more laptops.
I was really hoping it will atleast match the 2060 max-q in G14, well looks like the G14 is better for gaming even though it has a lower TDP CPU & GPU, haven't seen any stellar ryzen device since the G14 unfortunately.
The G15 with the plastic shroud removed is pretty wonderful. The 240Hz panel is the same one found in many other higher end laptops.
The new omen 15 2020 looks very promising, we'll have to wait for some reviews though
@@gregormismas1620 Screen has shit colours though...
@@EddoWagt really? where did you hear that? i read it will have many different screen choices, including oled and UHD, so maybe the lower tier screens are bad?
@@gregormismas1620 i think there are better than the tuff's displays. So, I don't thnk it will be that ugly
I always recommend your channel for the most systematic laptop pinpoint reviews
Unfortunately, for this year, It'll be the first and unique example all AMD
MSI Bravo will also feature all AMD
@@mapuia_ralte yeah but 5500m only
@@prodous3677 seriously? I've only seen MSI Bravo with 5500m. Give link please
@@JISD27 its not a 5600m that guy is BS'ing you
100W power consumption for 2060 Max Q performance. Not looking forwards to this.
Will be waiting for your final review for this laptop (hopefully in the second channel too;)) Great one as usual btw..
That's why I am glad I bought it 🤗 !
Same I got it for 850 I’m getting it Saturday
been waiting for you to review this one :D
:D
Finally, I've been waiting for this review
does the monitor is freesync ips like the msi alpha 15 ? the msi one is 400 € more expensive. i don't know if msi abuse of covid or maybe product has better design.
I can’t find any Dell with AMD on amazon :( they all seem to be Intel even with the link in the description.
seems the se is exclusive on their website
Thanks! I look forward to your full review!
After 2 years still nothing could beat the Helios 300's price to performance ratio! we gotta respect Acer for their reasonably priced products compared to the shenanigans out there.
Hopefully they continue that with the 10th gen
The Y540 costs approximately 1150$ where I am, while the helios costs 1350$.
So what I think is that both helios and Y540 are the best due to different countries pricing.
Asus tuf a15
@@dragonnf5255 Exactly, and the Y540 can achieve same performance as Helios 300 with 0.125UV and gpu OC. I have Y540 and it's hell of a machine. Loving the experience so far.
@@hossermes both are the same.
It depends which design you like more.
Thank you for the reviews. Just got it today and loaded up Rift. Does 60+ fps at 1080p with no issues. Rift graphics are pretty demanding at max. Ran the FFXIV Benchmark and scored 10,102 at Maximum Graphics at 1080p fullscreen. FFXIV average frame rate was 73 FPS. Also thanks for the thermal video. It does run warm. I suggest a laptop cooler to possibly limit yourself from being throttled by thermals. I didn't test high performance mode and I probably won't ever use it. I'm good with 60fps+ at 1080p.
Next on my list I guess would be to upgrade to a bigger SSD and max out the memory. Because of your reviews this was an instant purchase for me after researching it. The price was worth it. I purchased it online at Best Buy. It was the Dell G5 model number: I5505-A753GRY-PUS This was NOT the G5 Special Edition as reviewed in this video though. If you buy this laptop, make sure to boot it up, let windows install and the first thing you should do is get the latest BIOS from the dell website.
The smartshift technology is a bit underwhelming here, compared to the advertised 10%+ performance gains due to automated optimization - and the one here, I don't see any good reasons to switch over 5600m when 2060 performs better. 5600m also uses 100 watts here and I see some people saying that It's better than 2060 in some cases. Pretty confused maybe because of the thermal issues or just a bios update will fix this? The price is good though ngl.
Also asus TUF A15 or G15 is also a great choice but the damn screen and thermal issues due to design flaw is a game-breaking decision so maybe this dell or the upcoming HP omen with ryzen cpu is a good choice, will just wait for a bit.
Turing based GPUs have had 2 years to build driver optimizations. That's one area where AMD is going to become better over time, as they have proven time and time again. While Radeon GPU is 100W, I think it's because it's the smartshift number, so total power consumption does not increase.
Price is the most important aspect though, otherwise why just not get the 2080 super version.
Lets hope OEMs would bring more AMD models soon, as I have to buy new laptop in August-September and I would really want some affordable AMD laptop that can be used for gaming too.
I mean this is like less monies
Thank you Jarrod! Looking forward to the full review.
This is the first set of testing that's given me a clear picture of the performance.
TBH, I was expecting a smidgen more horsepower, but I'd still be happy with this.
You read my mind! More than a reviewer, you are a mind reader and a magician 👏👏. You do this everytime, really mind blown 😲
Can't wait for the full review. Looking forward to it. 👍
Would love to see a comparison between a15 1660ti , 2060 vs G5
Of course.
I really appreciate your review on this laptop. If this is more on the 1660 Ti level, I’m trying to understand why other TH-cam reviews are pushing it to be on 2060 to 2070 levels. Very inconsistent reviews. I personally love it. I don’t think many games now a days are going to get you more than 80 FPS on high settings anyway unless you pay 1500 and up. I think it’s worth the purchase.
Tbh tho no point in running higher then medium settings in most games
Do you think undervolting this laptop would result into even greater performance?
AMD currently has no support for undervolting
AMD laptop hardware can't be undervolted
@@TabalugaDragon Sure it can, pull out the battery.
when the full review will be available can't buy until you review it you are great.
Probably still a week away there's a lot to test
Waiting for thermals...
Testing them today!
@@JarrodsTech On most units the SE seem to get too damn hot with the current SmartShift.. My unit is still in China, so i hope it will not that toasty like tomshardware tested out - Is there a statement from Dell or AMD about the heat issues?! Whats your opinion on your Unit?
do u think the g5 is better pick than the helios ?
great vid as always
No
If you manage to find it for under 1200 or equal to that . Helios 300 is a better choice. But I personally can't seem to find it under 1400u.s. so if you really need a laptop the g5se is a better value for your money atm.
@@shamircarrillo1449 i saw that the helios outperformed the g5. but some people say that overall the g5 is a better pick. so i got confused. i guess ill just stick to my initial decision and get the helios
Damn, the Helios 300 aged like fine wine
not going to lie if acer dropped the price again on the helios 300 with i5+1660 ti 15" i would buy it instead lol that laptop has been sold for 889 on amazon and i still regret not picking it up. in my mind i feel most 1660 ti laptop should decrease prices. maybe its a dumb idea but since i'm seeing super rtx dgpu configs on laptops coming out...why not? another laptop is rog strix g with same config. it comes with single channel ram 8gb. they were steady on 949 on amazon and asus site. they were sold out on that price on amazon. on asus store page they stuck on that price for almost a month until it went up to 999. great laptop but i would assume in these times. people would rather save to buy extra ram on it if it was cheaper.
im sold on this laptop. supposedly they are going to make a version of the same base models with 120hz displays with the same 880 price. i dont know when. but i would still buy it since i play on external displays. these benchmarks are too good.
@Rohan Rathour from the benchmarks shown, the Helios 300 is considerably better than the G5. It's even better than most the other i7 + 1660ti combos
@Rohan Rathour 10300 is slightly better than 4600h at gaming when paired with identical gpus. 4600H is a much better option if you do a lot of content creation tho.
Yesss been waiting for this, btw Jarrod, which nvidia card is the closest to the 5600M?
Still waiting for tuf a15 ryzen 5 600h + gtx1650 ti🙃
Editing now for next week!
not really worth it. Only gives around an increase of 5 FPS compared to the 1650 model. But if it's as cheap as 1650 models in your region, then it's an okay buy (1660ti is much better value for money though)
R7 li al kank
have been out like 2 months in my country but dont even bother buying it :V Just wait for Dell, MSI and Acer to jump in
@@aydict 5 fps is good i want that difference it makes a difference
Great video as always! But did I somehow missed the thermal results?
its a gaming only video. he'll do that in another one
This is literally the Macbook Pro for ppl on a budget considering only Specs
Wtf this isnt comparable to a MacBook Pro. Its a frame per buck beast and for 1000$ Vetter than any 5k$ MB pro
More powerful actually
But you can actually play games on it
That's what i meant in terms of raw perf . By specs i mean only the cpu gpu + ram + storage...
Thanks for including CS:GO and Dota 2 in your benchmarks. Great content as always!
agree
Is it just me or does it look like a hp pavilion 15 gaming
I know this cause I own one
Thanks for the review !
I guess the boosted rtx 2060 on the eluktronics rp 17 / xmg core 17 wins, can't wait for the review of it.
i5 9300H + 1660 Ti performs better. Wow. All that hype for nothing
Where exactly are you seeing a 9300 and 1660ti combo here?
@@RaiPalk78 Another pissed AMD fanboy lol
th-cam.com/video/dpZw16wTlmY/w-d-xo.html
Take a look at the i5 laptop benchmarks and compare with this one.
5600M gives 26 fps in RDR 2 on Ultra settings LOL 🤣
Even though I owned that combo very briefly (HP Omen 15) and wasn't completely satisfied with it, still its performance was better than this junk that AMD and Dell came up with
Thank you sooo much! This was very informative 👍👍
Great video as usual !
I'll wait 'till the full review, as I'll have to get a new laptop this month, and I'm interested in this one (new AMD-based laptops are pretty expensive in France :/ )
Thanks! Coming soon 😎
Keep the good work Jarrod, love your channel 👍
Thanks 👍
Hey, you are great, you have such a neutral accent , it's easy for non English speakers to understand you.
And on your recommendation I have bought Lenovo l340.
Now my brother is looking for a business laptop, if you can make some videos on small compact laptops like dell XPS and high performing laptops like dell precision it will be great.
Thanks a lot.
Please make a gaming test on this laptop again after the driver updates and BIOS update from Dell.
Still a great little laptop in 2022. I play most days on mine hooked up to a 1440p monitor and get some good fps in call of duty 🙂
Been waiting for this since march
Hey Jarrod good video as always👌🏼 When will you check the new Lenovo Legion 5 and Legion 7?
Thanks, yes, just waiting on availability in my country which they told me would be June some time.
Jarrod'sTech Response time under 5 minutes😀 you’re on fire dude 🔥😂 Thanks, take care👍🏼
I Was expecting your review after Dave Lee said this was close to a RTX 2070 Max Q. A little bit dissapointed but still great value for the price. On the other side, it is amazing how you manage to pull out a comment in every graph of every review you make. Haven't you been in the situation where you where there is nothing to say about the graph and then it would be like:"Ok here are results for XXXX .....next one"
Hey Jarrod can you do a performance benchmark when using external monitors? I'm split between buying the G5 and A15. The G5, while it is great, it seems underwhelming compared to other laptops. But, it has a mini displayport which not all laptops, especially the A15, have. The A15 would've been ideal and perfect for me but I contacted ASUS and they told me the Type-C DisplayPort is connected to the iGPU rather than the DGPU. So if I was to connect to the Type-C DP will there be any performance drop off on the A15? Please I've been looking for answers no one really talks about this
Oh yeah! Jarrod's including MHW in the game tests! I hope you can continue to use this game for your benchmarks. If I could make a suggestion, you could try to finish the game all the way up to the end game and try testing out the guiding lands for your testing. this game is stupidly taxing on pc I'd like to see how different laptops can handle this game. I'd say guiding lands is the best way to test MHW on laptops. Im also really curious to see the thermal performance on your testing using MHW Jarrod. Me and a friend of mine run at around 80-90 degrees C on the CPU when playing with our 8th gen laptops I wonder if newer laptops can handle this game better.
My G5 4800H is still shipping, hopefully be here by 20th but I can't wait!
please give me the link to buy!
GREAT VIDEO BRO
What a detailed review. Good one!
Thanks!
Besides the Great Review as always , I really like that Revenant from Apex Legends wallpaper ❤️
Reeeeeview... Can't wait.
As always...very informative review.
Ofc waiting for "Dell G5 SE vs Asus TUF A15 (RX5600m vs RTX2060)...hopefully soon.
Hey Jarrod, nice video dude! but I have a question, what do you think is the best over all laptop (good for editing,good battery life, pretty light) and also upgradibility (ram and also storage) for a budget of $1,000? Is this a good contender?
That was... better than I expected. Other reviews of the 5600M say it's very underwhelming. Loving your username, Jardeath...
at last..being waiting for this from u
bro i took a brake from TH-cam and i came back to watch ur vids your videos are very helpful and informative
Do you got plans to get the Lenovo Legion 5 series? Either with intel or the ryzen 7 4800h cpus? Those should have much better cooling than Asus Tuf a15 and they should have some thermal throttle build in like helios. Looks good tbh
Love your reviews man, can you also review the MSI GF65 Thin with the 2060 GPU. Thanks!
I know you've basically done your gaming review of this now, but at any point did you throw any VR games at it? Would be interesting to see if the AMD CPU/GPU combo is actually up to the task.
Check the performance of rtx 2060 in games with DDLS 2.0 support. This closes the discussion on the comparison with GTX 1660 TI and AMD 5600m in a future perspective.
Hey Jarrod, I would love to see some aspects of the BIOS covered in your videos
I bought the Helios 300 but I didn't knew the it was a poor BIOS, and after installing Linux I realised that there was several issues such as
-fan & backlighting control only through acer's "predatorsense" software
-the default SSD storage with RST that made installing other drives a pain
-issues with the bootloader
Had I known I would have chosen an other laptop, I think it would be a complementary note on your already great videos
Hey Jarrod! Love the videos. Please also do a review on the g5 15 Intel 10th gen, rtx 2060, 2020 variant. Eagerly waiting for that one.
The 5600M looks close to the 1660ti in terms of performance but with like +40 watt power consumption.
It's very close, working on a 5600M vs 1660 Ti comparison now!
I found a strange pattern: comparing with 2060 in asus tuf a15 you have reviewed, in some games, if not most, 5600m will have higher fps in lower setting in games, while 2060 will win at higher setting levels. lol.
thermal throttling CPU on the a15. we know how ASUS screwed it up
@@jay-5061 No, or at least not just that, it's smart shift in action, at lower settings there is less load on the GPU and the CPU usually becomes the limiting factor, with the G5 that lightening of the GPU load allows it to give more power to the CPU.
*BEST BENCHMARK OF ALL OF TH-cam!*
_Keep up the good work, Jarrod!_
Thanks!
Nailed it again Jarrod! ;)
Thanks Jarrod,
I am considering this and the zeph g14 -1650ti. I am a blue teamer, and game occasionally -mainly dota. Portability is a priority.
Which would u recommend between this and the g14 ?
Be interesting to see how the performance of the 5600m improves in time with new drivers etc. I have a feeling future comparisons will put it more in line with an RTX 2060 rather than a 1660ti. For the price, I feel like this particular setup is tough to beat...outside of gaming that 4800 cpu is a beast!
Please tell me you'll be reviewing the newly refreshed 2020 HP Omen. Seriously considering the 1660ti/2060 ryzen model.
Hey Jarrod, do you already have a FireStrike Score ? I am always very curious in how laptops compare to my model, especially how much power you cant get for less money over the years.
Great video as always. Could you test the response time of the Y540? Or if you already did, where can I find the results?(I checked your site)
I tried, but I can't do it, the PWM is too bad and I'm too noob to work out how to do it properly lol, but it looked like 40ms at 60Hz from my attempt, the 144Hz is better but I don't have that.
Is it worthwhile trading ray tracing for good performance? RX5600M VS RTX2060, what should be the choice?
You won't play with ray tracing on mobile rtx 2060. Unless you are a fan of the Cinematic experience ergo 24 FPS. RX is cheaper, and ryzen setups are a bit less toasty.
So unless you need cuda cores/tensor cores for something, go with RX
@@pixelpox11 why is everyone saying that it is impossible to ply with ray tracing on rtx2060 mobile when it's able to do that ? with dlss on it become much better
@@WenYSiow I didn't say it's impossible. It's just not a smooth experience. DLSS 2 is great but it creates artifacts. If you are okay with that then sure go ahead. If you want to save a buck then go with RX is all I'm saying.
An i7+RTX 2060 config will shit on this thing. Deals are frequent for those as well, just head on over to reddit.com/r/laptopdeals
Like always the best detailed analysis of a laptop by most deserving and underrated TH-camr.
100W for gpu, I bet it was hot, simply because the cooling doesn't look good. But ofc, I may be wrong. Great work Jarrod, thank you.
Hi Jarrod, have you tested the helios 300 with gtx2060? And do you have a document where you have written all those fps you obtained with different laptops?
I hope you can compare this to the new G5 with the i7 10750H and gtx1660TI , since they are very similar in specs and price , I don’t know which one would perform better so that I can choose , great review as always Jarrod🙂👍
Goodday, a Canadian here. I currently have the Dell G3, but i am still within my 30day return policy. Should i exchange my laptop?
Dell G3 - 2019 model
- I7 9750
- 1660ti
- 512gb
- 144hz refresh screen
- rgb keyboard
Dell G5 se
- the same model tested in this video
- rgb keyboard
Community... What do you think? P.S the G3 is $350 less expensive.
It is a nice video for reviewing dell g5 se. Since the stock thermal paste from dell is very very very bad so I think after repasting, the thermal will improve. For example, I bought del g5 5587(i7 8750h, gtx1060maxq) in August 2018 and just after I bought it, I played csgo and the thermal reaches 100 degree of Celsius but the clock speed still remains 3.9ghz and tdp still remains 50W. After repasting and undervolting, the thermal was always below 80. Now I still use it and I love it because it has red case. I also hope that you can review new dell alienware m15r3/m17r3 because they have vapor chamber and I want to know that whether thermal of these laptops improve or not. Thank you.
Waiting to see a review on Lenovo gaming 3 series 😀
Nice test, but i think many Users will use the G5 15 at home with an external screen. At least some tests at a higher resolution would be cool.
which is better between helios 300 with i5 9300h / rtx 2060 variant and dell's g5 se?
So how fast is the 5600m exactly? Mixed results from various reviewers so far
It's basically a 1660 Ti, kind of, I'll have some better comparisons coming soon.
an enhanced gtx 1660ti, slightly better in some more optimized games (gotta take the cpu into consideration in the benchmarks, intel still has a slight edge in most games)
@@JarrodsTech I think it seems slower than the 1660 Ti considering the higher power consumption though. The only 1660 Ti laptops it beats either use the R7 3750H which is a lousy CPU or are using the 1660 Ti in Max Q configuration with only 60W which is 40% less power than the 5600M
I think that the acer helios 300 is a much better option, at least for pure gaming. For other stuff, like video editing, virtualization, developing APIs, etc. i think ryzen cpus are the best option
But, for now, intel(8 or 9 gen) + nvidia graphics are the best price value option i think
Ah, finally. Thanks Jarrod! Awesome your video, but I can't say right now that the G5 15 is awesome. Seems like it's far behind the Asus Tuf A15, that's unfortunate due to very similar pricing. At the Tuf you get a little bit weaker screen (still enough for gaming) but all over better perfomance for the price.
Review the msi bravo pls ❤️
Coming soon, just waiting for MSI to have availability.
There is a driver bug preventing freesync. Use CRU to fix it :) Also a bug which drives up temp when using internal monitor, but not present at external apparently.
Ownordisown had trouble with his, in one of the comments pointed out that a SW named CRU to enable free sync.
i had to download that software to enable freesync on my Dell G5 Ryzen 9
Really sad that this is the only model coming out this year with the smartshift feature. Frank Azor recently announced that no more smartshift laptops will be coming this year, have to wait until 2021 :/ really unfortunate
Oh interesting, hadn't heard that.
It's still sold brand new in Indonesia just below 700 USD.
happy to see that 1070 card still holdin up!
Haha glad someone appreciates that it's still in the graph
@@JarrodsTech hehe...its the one that i use and personally, i think 1070 is kinda underrated...waddya' think?
Pretty good, can’t wait for the 4600H review :)
Great vid but What about thermals? Some reviewers pointed out that it exceeds 105 deg while gaming.