SheWhispersWarrior I have just received my bp 2 diagnosis too after 7 years of being managed as emotionally unstable personality disorder. I hope you’re doing well x
Omg I have borderline and I really think after listening to this video I am both or either was misdiagnosed. But in the past I was never happy and always depressed. Every since I started taking cbd my depression is better but I noticed when I'm not depressed, I am happy and I want that feeling to come back. When I was younger I was more destructive and partied when I was happy. I would do risky stuff.
As someone with bipolar 2 who got diagnosed 12 years after being diagnosed with general anxiety and depression, this is validating and informative. I’ve been on SNRI/SSRI meds for years and totally miserable. Thank you. I’m starting on mood stabilizers today!
I was diagnosed bipolar.. no type given. I take a mood stabilizer. That's all I've ever taken. In the beginning I refused to believe I was bipolar so I stopped and things got worst so I've been on my meds ever since. Mood stabilizer and it seems to help so much. Depakote. And I'm almost certain I'm bipolar 2.
@@andrewnicholas9079 Why do you not ask your physician what your diagnosis is? Every patient has the right to know what they are being diagnosed as, and you would have been diagnosed as either type 1 or type 2 due to the fact that the two are distinct from each other. Try not to diagnose yourself too. Even if you were qualified, you are still prone to bias regardless. You should consider asking your physician what your diagnosis is.
@@matthewbelike agreed you make a good point when I was diagnosed in 2014 it was bipolar and here's lithium but I couldn't take it. Then to Depakote. The initial physician who diagnosed me is in another state and the one who's care I'm under now didn't diagnose me. But thanks I should probably ask.
My dad dont like going out on his and and ratjer be alone and dont want long converstations I also stay on my room always and rather be alone we have same hobbies and also dont like long conversations i remember i would ask jim something he gets mad and same as me the difference is tjat he eat way to much and o mostly dont eat everyday xD
I am watching this right now after waking up this morning and wanting to kill myself. Even though yesterday I had a wonderful day.... At least I am trying to stay sober which makes it easier to find a good medication.....
@@xDkaratekat Please embrace medication . Try to stay out of situations that enable you to repeat distructive patterns of behaviour. Read a book, join a group which reflects your interests. Don't be scared of your condition and try to love more.
Complex PTSD from narcissistic abuse is frequently mis-diagnosed as Bipolar II. There's an excellent documentary on comedian Darrell Hammond. He suffered abuse throughout childhood, then at 19 began drinking and drugging, was hospitalized and diagnosed with Bipolar I. He was mis-diagnosed with other disorders for decades until a very wise doctor saw the truth. The medical community have a reluctance to take a really honest look at family of origin issues. Narcissistic families produce children with low self-esteem, struggles with mood regulation, sleep issues, rumination, phobias, anxiety, depression, self-destructive behaviors. Often the identified patient in a family system is the scapegoat in that narcissistic family. So often patients are handed a sack full of drugs, when what they really need a consistent one year course of Cognitive behavioral and/or Dialectial therapy. EMDR is also very important to help release trauma that was stored in the body.
EMDR was the thing that really changed things for me. Along with a lot of CBT, and regular therapy maintenance as needed (and meds sometimes just to help clear the fog and then extra work to get back on track). Everything is really manageable now. The comment above is accurate and very familiar. Thanks for posting it.
I don't understand why people praise EMDR. I don't know if the provider was terrible at it, or if I wasn't ready, or what happened. EMDR kept giving me panic attacks. I am not alright with letting anyone basically hypnotize me. Just no. The therapist saw me as the problem.
Im bipolar 2. My young life was a wreck. I went for help several times. Always the same. They said i was major depressive and the gave me antidepressants. Every time i wound up almost dead and locked up. I was 30 when i was finally diagnosed bipolar 2. Now im properly medicated doing just fine 5 years later.
@@james_8554 Hmmm. I think my dr recommended we try that next. I’m just on adderral and ambien at the moment. I still smoke and drink on occasion. She told me I might gain weight on that medication so she was like “It’s your call if you want to try it”. Total boner killer.
Wow I really feel like this could be what I’m struggling with. I always felt like my mood was too “good” for depression, but I had intense lows with crisis and stuff. I always felt like there was something wrong with me
I honestly don't care what I have. My life doesn't feel real. It feels like my soul has accepted death but I'm still here. I go to work, I eat, sleep, spend time with friends, do personal projects, family, ect.... it's like I'm trapped inside my body and every waking day I'm begging to wake up from my dream. My life is so chemically screwed up; I can't shut off these dark thoughts and it's getting worse. I can't shut off my survival instincts. I feel like I'm burning from the inside out, I feel so numb and lost the ability to connect with others at a young age. I only feel alive when I live recklessly and endanger my life; people can't keep up. This isn't living, this is hell
I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 at age 32 and it made sense. However, after medication, therapy and raising a family I have uncovered that the root of my disregulation is early childhood trauma which then snowballed.
How are you doing now? I’m in the process of finally getting help and I suspect I have bipolar 2 as well. One of my family members has it too from what I know. I am the same age and I don’t know how I have managed to hold out for so long. 😟
May I ask, with your trauma identified were you able to work thru it and stabilise yourself or do you still have to take the medication? I’m waiting for an assessment to be done and this is what I am thinking is my underlying issue creating my condition
I have been “living” with short periods of hyper mania and long disabling depressions for over thirty years. I have so far been diagnosed with everything but bipolar, including severe depression, ptsd and even borderline personality disorder. The antidepressants only make my symptoms worse. Every one of those symptoms so obviously fits bipolar 2, but it is still impossible to get a diagnosis even with family history to support it. Why are psychiatrists so reluctant to diagnose BP in the UK. It makes me so angry, especially when I listen to others saying how there lives have suddenly become worth living once correctly treated.
If your doctors diagnosed you bipolar II, then they are morons. Bipolar II people do NOT have psychotic manias. No, you are definitely bipolar type 1. As for borderline, it is possible you have some borderline traits. But a good shrink should be able to distinguish borderline from bipolar, especially the more sessions they have with you. Many of us bipolar people will have personality disorders, so it's certainly possible to be both bipolar and borderline. The difference in the two is borderline people have triggers for their episodes (other people) and are usually fine if that trigger is removed. If a borderline moves to the wilderness and lives as a hermit, he'll be fine and won't have further episodes. This is because borderline is a disorder of interpersonal relationships (and an inability to control emotions as they relate to daily life triggers). Another difference is borderline episodes usually last a day or two maximum. If a person is running around manic for a week or a month, it is definitely not borderline.
I wonder that too, my husband manages to get through his bipolar 2 life without being diagnosed, it’s me who suffers! I am ignored by the NHS and his family!
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
I’ve been characterized as suffering from depression/anxiety for 14 years. SSRI’s made me feel either euphoric or extremely agitated. I was just recently diagnosed with bipolar II- my brother has it as well. I’ve been on lamotrigine for about 3 months and quit taking lexapro and have never felt more leveled.
ALSO - I have misophonia (phobia of sounds) and have had intrusive compulsive suicidal thoughts since i was 12 (up until I was properly medicated). I’ve struggled with access to healthcare for over 10 years, and even now it’s expensive. Access to mental healthcare needs to broaden
I'm Bipolar 1 and wasn't diagnosed properly until I was 40!!! Life is amazing now though. The medication and lifestyle changes have made it worth living. ❤
I was just recently diagnosed with Bipolar II. This is so helpful. Thank you so much!! I am almost 40, hopefully I’ll finally be able to live my life better. You are right about so much. It’s nice to see why I’ve made some decisions I’ve made.
it was a long horrible cycle of antidepressants for me i wasnt diagnosed properly till i was 40,so glad i was,i`m now 60 and feel a lot better,good luck on your journey
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
I was diagnosed at 33. 2 months ago. My BP2 also comes with (Agora)Phobia and Anxiety + OCD. I believe the Phobias come from the anxeity you often feel while depressed. You're in your head a lot, way too much. Overthink everything and spiral down to the point that, when you feel good again, something can trigger you easily. And then the "slap in the face" of the trigger leads to Phobia. That's how it happened to me.
Possible Insite on the "Disordered Eating" aspect of the presentation and an idea: When depressive - personally - I find it almost impossible to eat. I feel neasuous at the idea of putting food into my body and I feel full all the time regardless of eating. I have rapid weight loss and often will just sleep instead of eating. (Flawed logic is that if i am sleeping I don't feel hungry - and maybe tomorrow I'll have the energy to cook).During Mixed Moods I felt neasous and Anxious ALL the time and food was either a crutch (Binge) or neauseating. Also while in hypomania I often forget to eat and/or sleep and still feel fine. Just another perspective on the idea around Disordered eating. (Diagnosed With BiPolar II)
i agree with everything and also think it may have something to do with the lack of control aspect. eating disorders are very often a consequence of some other issue, maybe not food itself, but deriving from the feeling of not having any control over yourself. then you turn to eating as something you could exercise control over, as destructive as it may be
I am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my TH-cam channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates. 💙❤
I have known that I have OCD and major depression and GAD with panic attacks ever since I was a teenager. And that was back when nobody even knew what OCD was. That’s something that really irritates me is I have felt that some psychiatrists have given a diagnosis to fit a new drug instead of the other way around. I had been seeing one practitioner for two years, suddenly she wanted to put me on Latuda and she said I was bipolar. I said that she had never mentioned that I was bipolar before and neither has anyone else I’ve gone to. And she said that she had just decided that I was…. just makes me wonder how many people become bipolar or (any number of other diagnoses) when a drug company is giving incentives for them to hand out their new drug. I then started seeing commercials for Latuda on the TV all the time. Yet never once was bipolar mentioned before Latuda.
i suffered from anorexia from 13 yo to mid twenties,and got diagnosed with bipolar2. anorexia helped me to control mood. It helped me to feel in control. I didn´t have any other way or knowledge to deal with the chaos. And the depression made me feel worthless so also that fed the thought of not deserving anything good.
Recently diagnosed as bipolar 2 after 10 years of being diagnosed with depression and anxiety. I identify with every single one of the slides. It’s eye-opening
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
wow ,endless rounds of antidepressants for me from age 20 to 39,finally diagnossed bi-polar and adhd when 40 got proper meds,now 60 find i now have to take more anti psychotic meds to calm my poor brain down go to love the british NHS .
I loved my hypomania-until the strange depression rolled in. That weird storm cloud that rolls over your head. It’s great that mental health info has been advanced; however, it has also became a huge money-making scam for big pharma. Some meds are necessary-especially for bipolar 1 and schizophrenia, but now there are so many meds out for every symptom.
@@lbh6090 Someone who has entered, into “treatment” has only hope in this. I bet that in a country without western psychiatry there is no CHAD or chronic depression to such a degree.
I just got diagnosed yesterday and I'm struggling with accepting it which is how I came upon this video. I kept thinking how could it be when I used to be so successful. But that definition of hypomania is me to a T.
Just been diagnosed with type 2 yesterday, I have also been treated for major depression and anxiety for 5 years. Finally a psychiatrist gives the diagnosis and I feel scared but at least have hope now!
How did it go switching over to this diagnosis? Did changing your medication here help your mental state? I'm considering talking to my psychiatrist about being tested for this, as the antidepressants and antianxiety meds I have been taking for the past year have done nothing. Chronic depressive episodes almost on a daily basis, feel unable to speak, and yet I will have occasional moments of what i believe to be hypomania, I'm not 100% sure. I'm ultimately extremely worried about being misdisgnosed for bipolar or something else, and my depression getting worse. The way I'm going in life, I can't see myself ever feeling truly happy and not just distracted by something that interests me in the moment. Things need to change and I first need to figure out what the actual f is wrong with me in the first place
Phobias as an anxiety disorder (ocd) may be related due to lack of control, anxiety (which bipolar features a high amount of) and irrationality and obsessions. Eating disorders again lack of control or an obsession e.g I have seen anorexia in bipolar person due to an obsession and fixation on a mathematical sum about weight and size rather than their actual self insecurity. Bulimia and binge eating is very common in borderline pd especially as eating disorders relate a lot to emotional struggles and perfectionist personalities.
I would just stop eating in my hypomanie, it's like self medication, and also have a sense of control .but i really didn't know i did this though ..also the feeling of having hunger can take away a lot of feeling pain and raising thoughts ..it sounds so sick i know..
I have Bipolar type 1 with psychotic features and didn't get diagnosed until age 50. Been having mood swings, mania to depression for years. Was treated with Prozac which made me worse. It got so bad at age 50 I had a psychotic break and spent 10 days in the hospital trying to regain control of my life. Don't understand why it took so long for me to get diagnosed. Things are better now that I am on medication for it. Good video, but sometimes it takes long to diagnose BP type 1 as well as type 2, at least in my case.
I was lucky enough that when I went to my therapist, she recommended a psychiatrist since I kept having depressive episodes and was currently in the middle of a depressive episode. And when I went to my psychiatrist, I was in the middle of a very obvious hypomanic episode, which made it easier for her to diagnose me with Bipolar instead of Unipolar Depression.
My psychiatrist suspects I have type 2 BP, but my LCSW suspects more CPTSD from childhood abuse/trauma. My mother has BP and other mental health disorders. Based on the non-symptom diagnosis list I fit all of those qualifiers, but based on the criteria of hypomania I'm not sure I fit? I have anxiety, worry a lot and am definitely angry/irritable a lot. I do get "elevated moods" and it does feel really cyclical. I will think wow I'm finally feeling better after a long time of feeling depressed. I just toss it up to getting a break from depression and what is "normal" people feel like. When I'm feeling better, I will overspend, clean a lot, get really excited planning my life out, but I don't allow myself to make too many poor choices because I have 3 year old even if I feel the urge to do crazy things. I'm not sure that counts.
You sound exactly like me. I have CPTSP from narcissistic partner abuse. I have been diagnosed with depression before that as well. As a child I was told I had BP2 or BPD but because of my age would not diagnose. As an adult I’ve only ever been diagnosed with anxiety, CPTSD , Major Depression disorder. But then recently went in for an ADHD eval to help me with school and I found out I had BP2 and not ADHD. That person wanted me to confirm the diagnosis with another psychiatrist because the CPTSD makes it complicated to tease the two apart. I just saw the psychiatrist today and they confirmed I have BP2. I am still having trouble processing that. My therpist didn’t think I had that but then again we never talk about anything but my PTSD triggers and my inner thoughts. I don’t mention my days where I wanna go do everything , get bursts of energy, make a lot of plans, have racing thoughts, to the days where I am feeling so bad and hopeless I can’t want anything more than to just die or rip my skin off of my body and just be in someone else’s body, be anyone else but me cause I feel like I’m a disgrace. I need help. I’m starting medication tomorrow for BP2, if it helps I’ll know I have it. Oh and like you my mom was once told she has BP2 and she also had an eating disorder. My father (not in my life) has severe mental issues from what I remember. Good luck on your journey , your comment helped me relate!
I have BP 2, writing notes on this, and sharing with my counselor! She already knows, but will be happy to know that I am doing a bit of deeper digging into my diagnosis. Learning a lot. Education on topics you fear or have no idea about always over comes your fear or lack of knowledge of! Thank you for schooling me. This will perhaps be a life saver for me.
Some of my family members and loved ones who are close to me and I have even wondered for a couple years have wondered about me being bi polar 2 for years now and it’s crazy because i have a Cancun spring break story that is exactly the same I got lost and left my friend twice while in some kind of hypo manic phase and my friends always tell me how they worry about me being dead because of my nights out or adventures that I take by myself and some of my risk taking behavior... I don’t do any recreational drugs but during certain times of my life I drink large amounts of alcohol for long periods of time and feel no need of sleep and the lack of sleep is persistent even during periods of time while I don’t drink at all.... I find my self getting a couple hours of sleep a week but doing great at work the next day and then having a week or two where I feel very depressed usually the week or two before my period I have the depression bad
Bipolar 2 diagnosed at 50. NPD mother who was severely depressed in her pregnancy w me. I've experienced some hallucinations which I referred to as "lucid dreams" and some paranoia but mostly hypomania involves flirting (not my usual mode, and I'm married), alcohol, decreased interest in food, insomnia, projects, loud music/fast driving, INCREASED concentration (obsessive compulsive)....and in general an increased desire to connect w people...more chatty, more social media
A grand irony: I am a UK alum who utilized their mental health resources through the entirety of my time there. Said resources were life changing and extraordinarily helpful. However, while there, I was misdiagnosed or they simply did not see or make note of me potentially having Bi-Polar II. Now, four years later, here I am doing research into this ailment and I stumble onto this video.
I gave doctors a very important tip several times: I said "I don't react well to antidepressants. They make me feel worse". The barrier to access a specialist in the UK is a big issue, general doctors talk to you on the phone following a script for 5 minutes and diagnose you with anxiety, and prescribe a tricyclic antidepressant. Luckily I managed to see a specialist in my home country where I can afford it and the doctor spotted Bipolar II pretty quickly. Another major point was an eating disorder that started at 16.
Exactly. I told my psychiatrists over the years that I get worse on anti depressants and they simply upped the dosage or tried a new one =\ I finally got the right diagnosis last week...15 years later. Best of luck to you. I wish you good health.
My husband was diagnosed with unipolar depression after 6 months after a major psychotic depressive disorder. I cared for him and realised they were wrong and he was bipolar2. But the NHS wouldn’t listen to me (confidentiality) and it wasn’t till 5 years passed that he was correctly diagnosed, last year. In Portugal! I want to sue the NHS but no solicitor will take it on for various reasons. And the NHS aren’t talking to me still. This is affecting MY mental health !
I think, im almost sure, I'm Bipolar 2 and I think ive been misdiagnosed my whole life and why I still struggle very much. Every time I was evaluated was during a very depressive episode, antidepressants never did anything for me until I had Lamotragine added to my medications 🤔
YES!!!!!! I was on lexapro and complained that it was making me insane at work, then she diagnosed me with BPII and put me on lamotrigine and weened me off the SSRI - no issues since!
@@АлисаАлиса-р2д last year was horrible but this year, ik doing so much better, even with all the struggles im still having. Forced myself to make a lot of changes and it sucks but its worth it.
I was misdiagnosed with bipolar with psychotic features. I have Multiple Drug Intolerance Syndrome, which is why I have a psychotic reaction to meds (which was why I got the bipolar diagnosis in the first place). I also have CPTSD from narcissistic abuse and I had psychosis from a sensitivity to my own estrogen. I had to figure it out myself. They just wanted to keep drugging me, which was making the psychosis worse. Lost almost a decade of my life- about 3 years of which I don't remember. I had my ovaries removed (on my own hunch) and stopped taking meds- and now I am fine and off the inpatient rollercoaster. I'm divorcing the narcissist, too.
Has a health professional considered checking your Pharmacogenetics? Important genetic causes of drug intolerance can be due to Cytochrome CYP genetic differences eg CYP2D6 non functioning genes. It's a simple mouth swab DNA test. Very important - as I found out myself with coma with psychoactive drugs. And I definitely do also have Bipolar Disorder Type 2 (Bipolar Depression) for which Lithium has been wonderful ( and okay with my Pharmacogenetics)
What you have written is not reflective of known science. Removing your ovaries on a hunch is itself problematic, especially when effective estrogen blockers exist.
@@benzapp1 I have been re-diagnosed recently by a forensic psychiatrist. I have also only recently had my first brain MRI- not due to psychosis, but from me losing my balance. The MRI showed that I have t2- hyperintense foci consistent with chronic migraine- which was likely causing the hallucinations (the delusions were from the psych meds). You bring up an important issue. More research needs to be done on the impact of estrogen for perimenopausal women. More MRI's need to be ordered. I am grateful that my doctor believed me when I told her my problems were linked to my cycle. Was it PMDD? Was it estrogen causing more migraine flare-ups and triggering increased hallucinations due to worsening brain damage? Thankfully, I will never know. In my case, I believe a number of factor came into play and I am grateful that I will never have to live through it again to pinpoint the exact causes. I am okay with knowing roughly but not completely understanding the interplay of all of the elements. Yes- my doctor did write into my files that she was removing my ovaries due to some other factor- I think she said fibroids- to get insurance to approve. I was also in my 40's, perimenopausal, had all of the kids I was going to have, and so the risk was not like it would be to someone in their 20's or something. I was not able to take estrogen after (even when some issues have come up that estrogen would have made it much easier to handle- I still cannot take estrogen. I have a list of 30+ medications that I have had severe adverse reactions to, including unexpected things like the minipill and novocaine, so hormone blockers were never an option. But thank you, sir, for mansplaining female issues to me. So helpful. More testing needs to be done on women instead of centering on men because there is an severe lack of knowledge of Menopause associated psychosis.
This is very interesting to watch, especially as someone who was misdiagnosed with and treated for depression for almost a year and 2/4 of my misdiagnosing doctors worked for UK student healthcare.. lucky to have survived it tho, finally on stabilizers for bipolar 2 😳
When she talks about why eating disorders may be seen with BP is, for me, used as a coping mechanism when you can’t understand what’s going on. I struggle with anorexia and when I go into restrictive behaviors I believe it gives me a sense of control over something since everything else is so out of control. I recently have gone over to more junk food overeating. I have been treated for depression for years and nothing worked. This has gone on for over 20 years. I will finally start medications this Friday with the diagnosis of BP 2. I hope this changes things for me as I can’t work and struggle with SI daily and self harm behaviors. They also in the past used the term borderline.
I think there is a link for some people between BP and eating disorders. For example, binging and purging can help a personal regulate their mood. But it is obviously not a good tool to use.
Thank you. I related so much to the comment you made about people with bipolar disorder during manic episode may dismiss the diagnosis and say they don't need medications. A year after I was diagnosed with bipolar II, I was hospitalized at the psychiatric hospital, and then discharged into a partial hospitalization program for the duration of 3.5 months. I was extremely overwhelmed with all of the services and focus on my mental health, so I dropped out of the program and stopped taking my medications completely. I had convinced myself that I was their lab rat and did not believe that I had bipolar disorder. So for two years I self medicated with weed and alcohol, which only made me even more depressed. Although I did experience depressive and hypomanic episodes, I was in denial. I realized now looking through my medical records, how wrong I was. It's easy to minimize the issue, and to ignore it. The most difficult part for me is confronting the diagnosis and accepting it as a part of me. I felt like the psychiatrists were against me, and plotting to over medicate me for pharmaceutical monetary gains. I stopped smoking and drinking all completely and clearly saw how delusional I was.
They see these symptoms as depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder.....bipolar II is so often misdiagnosed. I remember the first time I was explaining my symptoms - "Well I get in these depressive states where I can't push myself to go into the world. Nothing is fun. I am irritable. I sleep a lot. I don't want to leave my home or even face the people in my home. But then after a time period I feel really great....I think I look really good, I'm excited, I'm picking up new hobbies and spending tons of money, I'm having sex with new people, I'm doing drugs. After being on antidepressants I almost always relapse on drugs or do something super out of character. II end up getting myself into trouble." Therapist- Have you experienced mania? Me- I don't think I'd call the "happy" periods mania...... And so on. 🙄
Holy hell--this is me to a T!! I've been diagnosed with anxiety disorder and major depressive disorder. Been on every anti depressant available and none have worked. I finally have an appointment In a week with an actual psychiatrist rather than my primary care doctor. Hopefully I get a resolution and a correct diagnosis.
im depressed 92% of the time so its easy for me to get suspicious of any sort of enhanced mood, recently got diagnosed with adhd so when i get medicated for that i expect quality of life to improve alot, hope you doing well.
I have been on ADHD meds but found Kratom to be a good option to cycle in. I recommend Bumblebee Kratom. Everyone’s brain chemistry is different but I prefer Hello Vietnam for mood boost & energy. Maeng Da or Green Borneo work very well for me as well. Moderation with anything of course.
I got diagnosed with BPD last year but I wonder if it’s actually Bipolar II. I plan on making a journal documenting my mood swings just to see the length and intensity. They’re always intense, but my length of swings are either within hours or days (which is common in BPD) but I often feel like I have either an underlying long term depression or an underlying long term hypomania. It’s so confusing, luckily despite the confusion, I’m getting a lot of benefits from DBT.
I wish the subtitles were available on this because her voice goes up and down (lowers and raises). I have good hearing, I just don't like having to turn up the volume when her voice gets lower because obviously when it raises it will be even louder. Other than that, it's an informative video.
Food is used as a punishment..it’s the only thing that you feel you have control over when you’re in the depressed state…be it gorging yourself, binging then throwing up or starving yourself. It coincides with feeling guilt and shame when your in the depressed state of being. You would be correct about bulima being the front runner.
i agree ! this talk struck me as I have anorexia and I ALWAYS relapse in the winter when i'm depressed and improve in the summer when my mood is better
Bipolar 2 isn't Bipolar 1 Lite. Bipolar 2 is characterized by more extreme depressions which results in a higher suicide rate. In this respect, it is more dangerous than Bipolar 1
well tbh i dont think calling one or the other more dangerous is accurate at all. mania that comes with bipolar 1 is extremely dangerous. and so are the more intense depressive episodes that tend to come with bipolar two. the suicide risk is higher for depressive episodes but bipolar 1 manic episodes also can come with an extreme suicide risk and combined with the saftey risk that mania holds id say bipolar 2 and bipolar 1 arw both extremely dangerous disorders and shouldnt really be compared because every experineces each so differntly. but yes, someone with bipolar 2 should not feel invalidated or like they struggle less because its extremely dangerous and the suicide risk is high. but we shouldnt compare them as they are both seperate disorders that show themselfs so differentley for everyone.
@@siddharthrajan24 I'm sorry to hear that. But with the right medication you may be able to live a less fraught and scary life. Meds don't fix the illness, they just take the edge off a bit.
Great presentation. One thing I found to be missing however was mention of trauma! Trauma can also look a lot like bipolar disorder. Please think of adding this in the future or when you're doing rule outs or treatment planning. :)
Hey, wanted to say that the diffrence is with trauma you don't have hypomanie or manie.. i have Cptsd and i can clearly tell the difference between my bipolar 2 or my PTSD..theyre both very differently
GPs have (or should have) a duty to ask the right questions regarding previous episodes of hypomania. Some may not have received adequate training but mental health is health and they should be well versed on the conditions and spotting signs that it might be bipolar and not unipolar depression. There has been a lot of negligence within the medical field even within psychiatric professionals.
I'm not sure if my G.F has BP-2 or one of the other disorders described here but she will construct issues out of thin air just so she has something to blame rather than admitting she needs help with her downs. When she is experiencing the onset of a down and first becoming agitated it becomes easy for her to find something to blame her down on. Then a full blown down happens. But when she's up, she's way up. And when she's down, she's way down. Also, it seems to have a genetic component to it. Others in her family also display the same symptoms. In fact, it's so common place in her family they even have a saying they use with each other. I had to talk my sister/brother ect. "Down off the ledge".
I actually got misdiagnosed with bipolar 1. I stop going to the doctor at 19. When back to the doctor when I was 27 with one of the worse depressive episodes I ever had. I was diagnosed with MDD until my doctor gave an antidepressant. I told I couldn’t sleep and I’m very agitated, and she said “you’re a typical bipolar 2”. I noticed she has been very serious about my overall health because it took my entire teenage years and most of my 20s to get me the right diagnosis.
Never mind, my dad just told me I did have mood stabilizers at some point as a young teen but I completely forgot about those because the symptoms must have gone into remission. This is why proper, long-term treatment takes soooo many years.
I have PTSD and have been misdiagnosed as major depression disorder instead of bipolar type 2 in regard to my other symptoms. The PTSD mimics certain symptoms so it took forever for me to be properly diagnosed. I have finally been properly diagnosed as bipolar type 2 and am getting ready to start meds. :)
I cried and mourned not getting the right treatment younger. Made me so sad for myself. I wanted to be a nurse but I couldn't control my emotions and depression.
seroquel gave me chest pain to this day even after being taken off it 6 year ago, i can remember the first 2 years taking it i forgot my name for 4 days, that scared the shit out of me.
I'm sorry to hear that. When you initially took Seroquel, it gave we me horrible, vivid nightmares. I think I hallucinated once. Had to get off it. Yes, I read that Seroquel had long term effects. I wish you good health
ED can be because of a need for control. If one's mood is out of control and fluctuates greatly, could there be a need to exert control over whatever area they can be control.
This is a bit scary…this nurse is doing a lot of mixing bipolar 1 and 2. Also, how about waiting 30 years and being a guinea pig because NO ONE gets that you have anything. GP’s clearly don’t understand mental health. Why do we suppose so many fall through the cracks and end up self medicating? This is all kinds of messed up and what’s scary is the fact that she’s actually “teaching others. 😳
She acknowledges her inexperience in the beginning of the video. "I'll teach more about it so I learn more about it." Oh well. There is a lot of other info around
Does mania look different in different personality types? And what are signs you can look for when you're cycling into depression? Can you do anything to stop the severity? What should you tell your doctor when you start to feel depression is coming?
What do you consider the break between major depressive episodes and hypomania? I don't count two days of mild hypomania every couple months as a hypomania episode separating episodes. Meaning I have had major depression for an entire year (which is really really not fun fyi) i think two times. I suppose that would be rapid cycling?? So in 12 months id have had basically SIX 2 month long episodes in that year. Also misdiagnosed 10 years
I can confirm that synthetic drugs can be traced in a urine test. Through a very recent experience with a family member, we honestly dont know whether she has bipolar or not, although she was diagnosed with it following being spiked. Does anybody know how we can define whether her recent illness was due to the drug or if it is bipolar. She is very anti drugs & doesn't drink apart from very occasionally. She was sectioned & they found spice in her system.
Looking at possible bipolar. I don't eat during what I've always called "high anxiety" times because I literally just forget amid the list of 1000 things i have to do. I don't eat when I'm depressed because... I'm depressed and eating is just another task.
Someone explain to me about work things? I never was very good at work but have always excelled at school. I have lots of friends but I don’t like being told what to do.
I sure wish I could hear the audience comments, and also read the titles of the books she displays on the projector near the end of the lecture. Maybe someone watching this on a bigger screen can read them, but I'm on my phone, which is my only form of internet access.
i think i got it here are the book titles with authors: An Unquiet Mind by Kay Redfield Jamison Wishful Drinking by Carrie Fisher The Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide, Second Edition: What You and Your Family Need to Know by David J. Miklowitz Touched with Fire by Kay Redfield Jamison Detour: My Bipolar Road Trip in 4-D by Lizzie Simon To Walk on Eggshells: Is to Care for a Mental Illness by Jean Johnston Bipolar 2: Bipolar Survival Guide for Bipolar Type II: Are You at Risk? 9 Simple Tips to Deal with Bipolar Type II Today by Heather Rose Bipolar 2: Creating The Right Bipolar Diet & Nutritional Plan to Deal with Bipolar Type II Today by Samantha Rose The Bipolar II Disorder Workbook: Managing Recurring Depression, Hypomania, and Anxiety (A New Harbinger Self-Help Workbook) by Stephanie McMurrich Roberts and 2 more
Just a reminder that CPTSD and Bipolar can coexist in the same person…it’s called comorbidity. CPTSD is a result of the traumas and the trauma changes the development of the brain especially if endured in early childhood as well as genetic predisposition that can result in bipolar which simply means a dance between polar opposites.
I am diagnosed with bipolar 2. I made last month a neuropsicosiagnostic. And I found that I have atenttional disorder, and QI high. I think that I had depresión, and now I AM health.
Luke Pratt lol I’ll second what Nina said but natural ways include but not limited too, regular exercise, eating clean, regular sleep, and NO DRINKING, took me years to really understand how much that affected me the most. But remaining spiritually aligned helps everything’s else fall in line.
I'm 49, my mother is 70 and at 26 she was diagnosed as manic depressive, called bipolar nowadays. She took meds, didn't like them. She has highs and lows, she is aware of the them, but prefers to live this way, even if she knows that it ruins her life. Like she said, it's 'my house and my money and I'll burn it all down if I want to.' This is what she wants.
I have been diagnosed with bpd traits but don’t feel that it fully fits. I sometimes think this is partly my fault because I don’t feel that I am ever fully honest with doctors etc that I speak with. I’m learning more to bipolar 2 with complex ptsd from abuse. Speaking with my gp for a referral again to mental health team on friday
I didn't ask for this, I was born with it. I have been told my whole life how to feel, think ect. Have compassion with these people and with me, understand, this is people lives. And I am not a drug abuser so stop it.
Thank you so much for this, I am bipolar 2, was misdiagnosed as borderline for over ten years, thank you for educating people on this.
SheWhispersWarrior I have just received my bp 2 diagnosis too after 7 years of being managed as emotionally unstable personality disorder. I hope you’re doing well x
They tried to pin that on me too, glad I fought it
Omg I have borderline and I really think after listening to this video I am both or either was misdiagnosed. But in the past I was never happy and always depressed. Every since I started taking cbd my depression is better but I noticed when I'm not depressed, I am happy and I want that feeling to come back. When I was younger I was more destructive and partied when I was happy. I would do risky stuff.
Me too 😂
As someone with bipolar 2 who got diagnosed 12 years after being diagnosed with general anxiety and depression, this is validating and informative. I’ve been on SNRI/SSRI meds for years and totally miserable. Thank you. I’m starting on mood stabilizers today!
How have mood stabilizers been going? My psychiatrist wants to switch me from SNRI to that but I’m scared it’ll like turn off my emotions 🥺
How are you now?
I was diagnosed bipolar.. no type given. I take a mood stabilizer. That's all I've ever taken. In the beginning I refused to believe I was bipolar so I stopped and things got worst so I've been on my meds ever since. Mood stabilizer and it seems to help so much. Depakote. And I'm almost certain I'm bipolar 2.
@@andrewnicholas9079 Why do you not ask your physician what your diagnosis is? Every patient has the right to know what they are being diagnosed as, and you would have been diagnosed as either type 1 or type 2 due to the fact that the two are distinct from each other. Try not to diagnose yourself too. Even if you were qualified, you are still prone to bias regardless. You should consider asking your physician what your diagnosis is.
@@matthewbelike agreed you make a good point when I was diagnosed in 2014 it was bipolar and here's lithium but I couldn't take it. Then to Depakote. The initial physician who diagnosed me is in another state and the one who's care I'm under now didn't diagnose me. But thanks I should probably ask.
me and my dad both dont eat much when hypomanic. Just too busy doing art, staying up, drinking coffee, smoking weed. We are the same person.
Same with me and my dad. We're sooooo much alike. It's weird as heck
Even my mom noticed it, but it kind of hurts me. Cause they had a messy divorce
My dad dont like going out on his and and ratjer be alone and dont want long converstations I also stay on my room always and rather be alone we have same hobbies and also dont like long conversations i remember i would ask jim something he gets mad and same as me the difference is tjat he eat way to much and o mostly dont eat everyday xD
😂😂😂😂 u described my family too
Yo, you need to get off the coffee and weed ✌️
Don't have weed
Watching this at 2 in the morning during mania. I have to be up by 6 and can’t sleep because my mind is racing. I’m so tired of feeling like this.
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Sorry to hear that. Happens a lot to me either...
I have been up for a week so far. It really is bad, I need to sleep, but I just can't.
me falling into another hypomanic episode watching this video and reading this comment: 👁👄👁
Bipolar II tend to have chronic depressive episodes, therefore, bipolar II are at higher risk of suicide.
I can 100% agree with that statement...
Wow my friend is bipolar 2
I am watching this right now after waking up this morning and wanting to kill myself. Even though yesterday I had a wonderful day.... At least I am trying to stay sober which makes it easier to find a good medication.....
@@xDkaratekat Please embrace medication . Try to stay out of situations that enable you to repeat distructive patterns of behaviour. Read a book, join a group which reflects your interests. Don't be scared of your condition and try to love more.
I'm bipolar II and I'm not suicidal. All I ever say is I'm not ever coming back to this Earth. And the Judge will judge correctly.
Complex PTSD from narcissistic abuse is frequently mis-diagnosed as Bipolar II. There's an excellent documentary on comedian Darrell Hammond. He suffered abuse throughout childhood, then at 19 began drinking and drugging, was hospitalized and diagnosed with Bipolar I. He was mis-diagnosed with other disorders for decades until a very wise doctor saw the truth. The medical community have a reluctance to take a really honest look at family of origin issues. Narcissistic families produce children with low self-esteem, struggles with mood regulation, sleep issues, rumination, phobias, anxiety, depression, self-destructive behaviors. Often the identified patient in a family system is the scapegoat in that narcissistic family. So often patients are handed a sack full of drugs, when what they really need a consistent one year course of Cognitive behavioral and/or Dialectial therapy. EMDR is also very important to help release trauma that was stored in the body.
EMDR was the thing that really changed things for me. Along with a lot of CBT, and regular therapy maintenance as needed (and meds sometimes just to help clear the fog and then extra work to get back on track). Everything is really manageable now. The comment above is accurate and very familiar. Thanks for posting it.
@@sijames01 I agree, EMDR is probably the most powerful therapy to mitigate the rumination over traumatic memories.
I'm between the 2
I don't understand why people praise EMDR. I don't know if the provider was terrible at it, or if I wasn't ready, or what happened. EMDR kept giving me panic attacks. I am not alright with letting anyone basically hypnotize me. Just no. The therapist saw me as the problem.
What the fuck. This is literally what I believe happened to me .
Im bipolar 2. My young life was a wreck. I went for help several times. Always the same. They said i was major depressive and the gave me antidepressants. Every time i wound up almost dead and locked up. I was 30 when i was finally diagnosed bipolar 2. Now im properly medicated doing just fine 5 years later.
What meds are you on?
Seroquel and marijuana
I’ve never tried seroquel. Every antidepressant I’ve tried made me manic or I had extreme panic attacks out of nowhere. I couldn’t get through it.
@@43MinutesWithJamieRose I've had the same problem with antidepressants. Seroquel is a mood stabilizer. It helps me sleep and keep my head on right.
@@james_8554 Hmmm. I think my dr recommended we try that next. I’m just on adderral and ambien at the moment. I still smoke and drink on occasion. She told me I might gain weight on that medication so she was like “It’s your call if you want to try it”. Total boner killer.
reading these comments about getting diagnosed later in life has made me realize how lucky I am to have been diagnosed at fourteen years old
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Wow I really feel like this could be what I’m struggling with. I always felt like my mood was too “good” for depression, but I had intense lows with crisis and stuff. I always felt like there was something wrong with me
I wish I could hear what the people off camera were saying. Other than that though, great talk, very informative.
I was just diagnosed with Bipolar 2. This is awesome, thanks for uploading.
I honestly don't care what I have. My life doesn't feel real. It feels like my soul has accepted death but I'm still here. I go to work, I eat, sleep, spend time with friends, do personal projects, family, ect.... it's like I'm trapped inside my body and every waking day I'm begging to wake up from my dream. My life is so chemically screwed up; I can't shut off these dark thoughts and it's getting worse. I can't shut off my survival instincts. I feel like I'm burning from the inside out, I feel so numb and lost the ability to connect with others at a young age. I only feel alive when I live recklessly and endanger my life; people can't keep up. This isn't living, this is hell
I was diagnosed with bipolar 2 at age 32 and it made sense. However, after medication, therapy and raising a family I have uncovered that the root of my disregulation is early childhood trauma which then snowballed.
How are you doing now? I’m in the process of finally getting help and I suspect I have bipolar 2 as well. One of my family members has it too from what I know. I am the same age and I don’t know how I have managed to hold out for so long. 😟
May I ask, with your trauma identified were you able to work thru it and stabilise yourself or do you still have to take the medication? I’m waiting for an assessment to be done and this is what I am thinking is my underlying issue creating my condition
I can't speak for everyone but I overeat because it calms me down. Treatment please.
Oh I definitely do that too!
I have been “living” with short periods of hyper mania and long disabling depressions for over thirty years. I have so far been diagnosed with everything but bipolar, including severe depression, ptsd and even borderline personality disorder. The antidepressants only make my symptoms worse. Every one of those symptoms so obviously fits bipolar 2, but it is still impossible to get a diagnosis even with family history to support it. Why are psychiatrists so reluctant to diagnose BP in the UK. It makes me so angry, especially when I listen to others saying how there lives have suddenly become worth living once correctly treated.
Same barely diagnosed. Finally on medicine.
If your doctors diagnosed you bipolar II, then they are morons. Bipolar II people do NOT have psychotic manias. No, you are definitely bipolar type 1.
As for borderline, it is possible you have some borderline traits. But a good shrink should be able to distinguish borderline from bipolar, especially the more sessions they have with you. Many of us bipolar people will have personality disorders, so it's certainly possible to be both bipolar and borderline.
The difference in the two is borderline people have triggers for their episodes (other people) and are usually fine if that trigger is removed. If a borderline moves to the wilderness and lives as a hermit, he'll be fine and won't have further episodes. This is because borderline is a disorder of interpersonal relationships (and an inability to control emotions as they relate to daily life triggers). Another difference is borderline episodes usually last a day or two maximum. If a person is running around manic for a week or a month, it is definitely not borderline.
I wonder that too, my husband manages to get through his bipolar 2 life without being diagnosed, it’s me who suffers! I am ignored by the NHS and his family!
@@lynnvandyke1065may be just get Gp to give you lamictal and seroquel. lithium also works for 1/3 of pts, GP can help with lithium start
take metformin with seroquel, otherwise bad weight gain
These people have described me to a T. I'm 30 years old and in so much pain. I'm calling the doctor in the morning. Thank yoy for this video. 😭🙏
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
I know it’s a while ago but how did you get on? Best wishes to you.
I’ve been characterized as suffering from depression/anxiety for 14 years. SSRI’s made me feel either euphoric or extremely agitated. I was just recently diagnosed with bipolar II- my brother has it as well. I’ve been on lamotrigine for about 3 months and quit taking lexapro and have never felt more leveled.
ALSO - I have misophonia (phobia of sounds) and have had intrusive compulsive suicidal thoughts since i was 12 (up until I was properly medicated). I’ve struggled with access to healthcare for over 10 years, and even now it’s expensive. Access to mental healthcare needs to broaden
I'm Bipolar 1 and wasn't diagnosed properly until I was 40!!! Life is amazing now though. The medication and lifestyle changes have made it worth living. ❤
I was just recently diagnosed with Bipolar II. This is so helpful. Thank you so much!! I am almost 40, hopefully I’ll finally be able to live my life better. You are right about so much. It’s nice to see why I’ve made some decisions I’ve made.
I'm 42 now. I found out at 38.
it was a long horrible cycle of antidepressants for me i wasnt diagnosed properly till i was 40,so glad i was,i`m now 60 and feel a lot better,good luck on your journey
I've just been diagnosed with BPD II. This woman is describing my life to a T.
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
I was diagnosed 3 years ago thank you it put me to tears because this is exactly me all the time
Me. Too.
I was diagnosed at 33. 2 months ago. My BP2 also comes with (Agora)Phobia and Anxiety + OCD. I believe the Phobias come from the anxeity you often feel while depressed. You're in your head a lot, way too much. Overthink everything and spiral down to the point that, when you feel good again, something can trigger you easily. And then the "slap in the face" of the trigger leads to Phobia. That's how it happened to me.
Such a wonderful lecture. I wish this video could reach to more people who need this type of info.
Possible Insite on the "Disordered Eating" aspect of the presentation and an idea:
When depressive - personally - I find it almost impossible to eat. I feel neasuous at the idea of putting food into my body and I feel full all the time regardless of eating. I have rapid weight loss and often will just sleep instead of eating. (Flawed logic is that if i am sleeping I don't feel hungry - and maybe tomorrow I'll have the energy to cook).During Mixed Moods I felt neasous and Anxious ALL the time and food was either a crutch (Binge) or neauseating. Also while in hypomania I often forget to eat and/or sleep and still feel fine. Just another perspective on the idea around Disordered eating. (Diagnosed With BiPolar II)
i agree with everything and also think it may have something to do with the lack of control aspect. eating disorders are very often a consequence of some other issue, maybe not food itself, but deriving from the feeling of not having any control over yourself. then you turn to eating as something you could exercise control over, as destructive as it may be
@@giovannaa6105 very insightful!
I am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my TH-cam channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates. 💙❤
I have known that I have OCD and major depression and GAD with panic attacks ever since I was a teenager. And that was back when nobody even knew what OCD was. That’s something that really irritates me is I have felt that some psychiatrists have given a diagnosis to fit a new drug instead of the other way around. I had been seeing one practitioner for two years, suddenly she wanted to put me on Latuda and she said I was bipolar. I said that she had never mentioned that I was bipolar before and neither has anyone else I’ve gone to. And she said that she had just decided that I was…. just makes me wonder how many people become bipolar or (any number of other diagnoses) when a drug company is giving incentives for them to hand out their new drug. I then started seeing commercials for Latuda on the TV all the time. Yet never once was bipolar mentioned before Latuda.
same ive ocd, was so bad couple years ago but not my bipolar is stronger
I tried latuda ..HOLD on I was flying up and thought I was ready to take on the world.....
i suffered from anorexia from 13 yo to mid twenties,and got diagnosed with bipolar2. anorexia helped me to control mood. It helped me to feel in control. I didn´t have any other way or knowledge to deal with the chaos. And the depression made me feel worthless so also that fed the thought of not deserving anything good.
Recently diagnosed as bipolar 2 after 10 years of being diagnosed with depression and anxiety. I identify with every single one of the slides. It’s eye-opening
Hello I know exactly what you going through, i know of a doctor who can help you his Dr Isibor he helped my co-worker too with same problem! I can give his contact if you interested........
How are you now in your journey?
@@charlottestallion7513 is this doctor still available to help?
wow ,endless rounds of antidepressants for me from age 20 to 39,finally diagnossed bi-polar and adhd when 40 got proper meds,now 60 find i now have to take more anti psychotic meds to calm my poor brain down go to love the british NHS .
I loved my hypomania-until the strange depression rolled in. That weird storm cloud that rolls over your head. It’s great that mental health info has been advanced; however, it has also became a huge money-making scam for big pharma. Some meds are necessary-especially for bipolar 1 and schizophrenia, but now there are so many meds out for every symptom.
I am grateful for the range of medications now available.
@@lbh6090 Someone who has entered, into “treatment” has only hope in this.
I bet that in a country without western psychiatry there is no CHAD or chronic depression to such a degree.
I just got diagnosed yesterday and I'm struggling with accepting it which is how I came upon this video. I kept thinking how could it be when I used to be so successful. But that definition of hypomania is me to a T.
Jenny's Road same.
Jenny's Road have you gone through any trauma
@@carolmccabe4359 Many.
How are you feeling now in your journey?
Just been diagnosed with type 2 yesterday, I have also been treated for major depression and anxiety for 5 years. Finally a psychiatrist gives the diagnosis and I feel scared but at least have hope now!
How did it go switching over to this diagnosis? Did changing your medication here help your mental state?
I'm considering talking to my psychiatrist about being tested for this, as the antidepressants and antianxiety meds I have been taking for the past year have done nothing. Chronic depressive episodes almost on a daily basis, feel unable to speak, and yet I will have occasional moments of what i believe to be hypomania, I'm not 100% sure. I'm ultimately extremely worried about being misdisgnosed for bipolar or something else, and my depression getting worse. The way I'm going in life, I can't see myself ever feeling truly happy and not just distracted by something that interests me in the moment. Things need to change and I first need to figure out what the actual f is wrong with me in the first place
alex3rd11 good so far although I’m on a cocktail of medication
However you gone since? I was diagnosed yesterday
Phobias as an anxiety disorder (ocd) may be related due to lack of control, anxiety (which bipolar features a high amount of) and irrationality and obsessions. Eating disorders again lack of control or an obsession e.g I have seen anorexia in bipolar person due to an obsession and fixation on a mathematical sum about weight and size rather than their actual self insecurity. Bulimia and binge eating is very common in borderline pd especially as eating disorders relate a lot to emotional struggles and perfectionist personalities.
I would just stop eating in my hypomanie, it's like self medication, and also have a sense of control .but i really didn't know i did this though ..also the feeling of having hunger can take away a lot of feeling pain and raising thoughts ..it sounds so sick i know..
Transcendental meditation 🌹🌹❤
Thank you so much for sharing this. I felt like they were talking about me personally
Transcendental meditation 🌹🌹❤💖
I have Bipolar type 1 with psychotic features and didn't get diagnosed until age 50. Been having mood swings, mania to depression for years. Was treated with Prozac which made me worse. It got so bad at age 50 I had a psychotic break and spent 10 days in the hospital trying to regain control of my life. Don't understand why it took so long for me to get diagnosed. Things are better now that I am on medication for it. Good video, but sometimes it takes long to diagnose BP type 1 as well as type 2, at least in my case.
I was lucky enough that when I went to my therapist, she recommended a psychiatrist since I kept having depressive episodes and was currently in the middle of a depressive episode. And when I went to my psychiatrist, I was in the middle of a very obvious hypomanic episode, which made it easier for her to diagnose me with Bipolar instead of Unipolar Depression.
Omg That sudden laughter is giving me symptoms😂😂😂😂😂
My psychiatrist suspects I have type 2 BP, but my LCSW suspects more CPTSD from childhood abuse/trauma. My mother has BP and other mental health disorders. Based on the non-symptom diagnosis list I fit all of those qualifiers, but based on the criteria of hypomania I'm not sure I fit? I have anxiety, worry a lot and am definitely angry/irritable a lot. I do get "elevated moods" and it does feel really cyclical. I will think wow I'm finally feeling better after a long time of feeling depressed. I just toss it up to getting a break from depression and what is "normal" people feel like. When I'm feeling better, I will overspend, clean a lot, get really excited planning my life out, but I don't allow myself to make too many poor choices because I have 3 year old even if I feel the urge to do crazy things. I'm not sure that counts.
You sound exactly like me. I have CPTSP from narcissistic partner abuse. I have been diagnosed with depression before that as well. As a child I was told I had BP2 or BPD but because of my age would not diagnose. As an adult I’ve only ever been diagnosed with anxiety, CPTSD , Major Depression disorder. But then recently went in for an ADHD eval to help me with school and I found out I had BP2 and not ADHD. That person wanted me to confirm the diagnosis with another psychiatrist because the CPTSD makes it complicated to tease the two apart. I just saw the psychiatrist today and they confirmed I have BP2. I am still having trouble processing that. My therpist didn’t think I had that but then again we never talk about anything but my PTSD triggers and my inner thoughts. I don’t mention my days where I wanna go do everything , get bursts of energy, make a lot of plans, have racing thoughts, to the days where I am feeling so bad and hopeless I can’t want anything more than to just die or rip my skin off of my body and just be in someone else’s body, be anyone else but me cause I feel like I’m a disgrace. I need help. I’m starting medication tomorrow for BP2, if it helps I’ll know I have it. Oh and like you my mom was once told she has BP2 and she also had an eating disorder. My father (not in my life) has severe mental issues from what I remember. Good luck on your journey , your comment helped me relate!
I have BP 2, writing notes on this, and sharing with my counselor! She already knows, but will be happy to know that I am doing a bit of deeper digging into my diagnosis. Learning a lot. Education on topics you fear or have no idea about always over comes your fear or lack of knowledge of! Thank you for schooling me. This will perhaps be a life saver for me.
Some of my family members and loved ones who are close to me and I have even wondered for a couple years have wondered about me being bi polar 2 for years now and it’s crazy because i have a Cancun spring break story that is exactly the same I got lost and left my friend twice while in some kind of hypo manic phase and my friends always tell me how they worry about me being dead because of my nights out or adventures that I take by myself and some of my risk taking behavior... I don’t do any recreational drugs but during certain times of my life I drink large amounts of alcohol for long periods of time and feel no need of sleep and the lack of sleep is persistent even during periods of time while I don’t drink at all.... I find my self getting a couple hours of sleep a week but doing great at work the next day and then having a week or two where I feel very depressed usually the week or two before my period I have the depression bad
If you think you might have bipolar disorder, you need to talk to a specialist, because it's not gonna go away
Alcohol is a recreational drug. It's a chemicals that you consume because you enjoy how it affects your brain.
Bipolar 2 diagnosed at 50. NPD mother who was severely depressed in her pregnancy w me.
I've experienced some hallucinations which I referred to as "lucid dreams" and some paranoia but mostly hypomania involves flirting (not my usual mode, and I'm married), alcohol, decreased interest in food, insomnia, projects, loud music/fast driving, INCREASED concentration (obsessive compulsive)....and in general an increased desire to connect w people...more chatty, more social media
A grand irony: I am a UK alum who utilized their mental health resources through the entirety of my time there. Said resources were life changing and extraordinarily helpful. However, while there, I was misdiagnosed or they simply did not see or make note of me potentially having Bi-Polar II. Now, four years later, here I am doing research into this ailment and I stumble onto this video.
I've been diagnosed bipolar 2 when in fact I have CPTSD from childhood. I've been depressed and anxious ever since I can remember
I gave doctors a very important tip several times: I said "I don't react well to antidepressants. They make me feel worse". The barrier to access a specialist in the UK is a big issue, general doctors talk to you on the phone following a script for 5 minutes and diagnose you with anxiety, and prescribe a tricyclic antidepressant. Luckily I managed to see a specialist in my home country where I can afford it and the doctor spotted Bipolar II pretty quickly.
Another major point was an eating disorder that started at 16.
Exactly. I told my psychiatrists over the years that I get worse on anti depressants and they simply upped the dosage or tried a new one =\ I finally got the right diagnosis last week...15 years later. Best of luck to you. I wish you good health.
My husband was diagnosed with unipolar depression after 6 months after a major psychotic depressive disorder. I cared for him and realised they were wrong and he was bipolar2. But the NHS wouldn’t listen to me (confidentiality) and it wasn’t till 5 years passed that he was correctly diagnosed, last year. In Portugal! I want to sue the NHS but no solicitor will take it on for various reasons. And the NHS aren’t talking to me still. This is affecting MY mental health !
I think, im almost sure, I'm Bipolar 2 and I think ive been misdiagnosed my whole life and why I still struggle very much. Every time I was evaluated was during a very depressive episode, antidepressants never did anything for me until I had Lamotragine added to my medications 🤔
Lamotrigine is a life saver! Just be on the lookout for a rash.
How are you now ?
@@fioralisamoretti205 did you ever had delusions and ocd with bipolar type 2? And how long does the depressive and manic phase last?
YES!!!!!! I was on lexapro and complained that it was making me insane at work, then she diagnosed me with BPII and put me on lamotrigine and weened me off the SSRI - no issues since!
@@АлисаАлиса-р2д last year was horrible but this year, ik doing so much better, even with all the struggles im still having. Forced myself to make a lot of changes and it sucks but its worth it.
I was misdiagnosed with bipolar with psychotic features. I have Multiple Drug Intolerance Syndrome, which is why I have a psychotic reaction to meds (which was why I got the bipolar diagnosis in the first place). I also have CPTSD from narcissistic abuse and I had psychosis from a sensitivity to my own estrogen.
I had to figure it out myself. They just wanted to keep drugging me, which was making the psychosis worse. Lost almost a decade of my life- about 3 years of which I don't remember. I had my ovaries removed (on my own hunch) and stopped taking meds- and now I am fine and off the inpatient rollercoaster. I'm divorcing the narcissist, too.
Has a health professional considered checking your Pharmacogenetics? Important genetic causes of drug intolerance can be due to Cytochrome CYP genetic differences eg CYP2D6 non functioning genes. It's a simple mouth swab DNA test. Very important - as I found out myself with coma with psychoactive drugs.
And I definitely do also have Bipolar Disorder Type 2 (Bipolar Depression) for which Lithium has been wonderful ( and okay with my Pharmacogenetics)
@@simonandrews4355 Thank you. I haven't known where to start.
What you have written is not reflective of known science. Removing your ovaries on a hunch is itself problematic, especially when effective estrogen blockers exist.
@@benzapp1 I have been re-diagnosed recently by a forensic psychiatrist. I have also only recently had my first brain MRI- not due to psychosis, but from me losing my balance. The MRI showed that I have t2- hyperintense foci consistent with chronic migraine- which was likely causing the hallucinations (the delusions were from the psych meds).
You bring up an important issue. More research needs to be done on the impact of estrogen for perimenopausal women. More MRI's need to be ordered. I am grateful that my doctor believed me when I told her my problems were linked to my cycle. Was it PMDD? Was it estrogen causing more migraine flare-ups and triggering increased hallucinations due to worsening brain damage? Thankfully, I will never know. In my case, I believe a number of factor came into play and I am grateful that I will never have to live through it again to pinpoint the exact causes. I am okay with knowing roughly but not completely understanding the interplay of all of the elements.
Yes- my doctor did write into my files that she was removing my ovaries due to some other factor- I think she said fibroids- to get insurance to approve. I was also in my 40's, perimenopausal, had all of the kids I was going to have, and so the risk was not like it would be to someone in their 20's or something. I was not able to take estrogen after (even when some issues have come up that estrogen would have made it much easier to handle- I still cannot take estrogen. I have a list of 30+ medications that I have had severe adverse reactions to, including unexpected things like the minipill and novocaine, so hormone blockers were never an option.
But thank you, sir, for mansplaining female issues to me. So helpful. More testing needs to be done on women instead of centering on men because there is an severe lack of knowledge of Menopause associated psychosis.
This is very interesting to watch, especially as someone who was misdiagnosed with and treated for depression for almost a year and 2/4 of my misdiagnosing doctors worked for UK student healthcare.. lucky to have survived it tho, finally on stabilizers for bipolar 2 😳
When she talks about why eating disorders may be seen with BP is, for me, used as a coping mechanism when you can’t understand what’s going on. I struggle with anorexia and when I go into restrictive behaviors I believe it gives me a sense of control over something since everything else is so out of control. I recently have gone over to more junk food overeating. I have been treated for depression for years and nothing worked. This has gone on for over 20 years. I will finally start medications this Friday with the diagnosis of BP 2. I hope this changes things for me as I can’t work and struggle with SI daily and self harm behaviors. They also in the past used the term borderline.
I think there is a link for some people between BP and eating disorders. For example, binging and purging can help a personal regulate their mood. But it is obviously not a good tool to use.
I have issues eating because I literally forget to eat and my self care goes out the window when I'm depressed. I get no pleasure from eating.
I have the same struggles, I feel you.
I'm not labels or anything that's said to make me feel terrible, I'm trying hard to survive and smile. I'm not your medical book, I am me.
Thank you. I related so much to the comment you made about people with bipolar disorder during manic episode may dismiss the diagnosis and say they don't need medications. A year after I was diagnosed with bipolar II, I was hospitalized at the psychiatric hospital, and then discharged into a partial hospitalization program for the duration of 3.5 months. I was extremely overwhelmed with all of the services and focus on my mental health, so I dropped out of the program and stopped taking my medications completely. I had convinced myself that I was their lab rat and did not believe that I had bipolar disorder. So for two years I self medicated with weed and alcohol, which only made me even more depressed. Although I did experience depressive and hypomanic episodes, I was in denial. I realized now looking through my medical records, how wrong I was. It's easy to minimize the issue, and to ignore it. The most difficult part for me is confronting the diagnosis and accepting it as a part of me. I felt like the psychiatrists were against me, and plotting to over medicate me for pharmaceutical monetary gains. I stopped smoking and drinking all completely and clearly saw how delusional I was.
They see these symptoms as depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder.....bipolar II is so often misdiagnosed. I remember the first time I was explaining my symptoms - "Well I get in these depressive states where I can't push myself to go into the world. Nothing is fun. I am irritable. I sleep a lot. I don't want to leave my home or even face the people in my home. But then after a time period I feel really great....I think I look really good, I'm excited, I'm picking up new hobbies and spending tons of money, I'm having sex with new people, I'm doing drugs. After being on antidepressants I almost always relapse on drugs or do something super out of character. II end up getting myself into trouble."
Therapist- Have you experienced mania?
Me- I don't think I'd call the "happy" periods mania......
And so on. 🙄
Holy hell--this is me to a T!! I've been diagnosed with anxiety disorder and major depressive disorder. Been on every anti depressant available and none have worked. I finally have an appointment In a week with an actual psychiatrist rather than my primary care doctor. Hopefully I get a resolution and a correct diagnosis.
Wow! Thank you! That sounds like me. 47, and ever been diagnosed with anything, due to lack of psychiatric professionals where I live.
im depressed 92% of the time so its easy for me to get suspicious of any sort of enhanced mood, recently got diagnosed with adhd so when i get medicated for that i expect quality of life to improve alot, hope you doing well.
Update please! Lol
@@JustD1zz štill waiting on my doc but doing alot beter, taking responsibility for my family has helped alot, also bacopa monnieri tablets
I have been on ADHD meds but found Kratom to be a good option to cycle in. I recommend Bumblebee Kratom. Everyone’s brain chemistry is different but I prefer Hello Vietnam for mood boost & energy. Maeng Da or Green Borneo work very well for me as well. Moderation with anything of course.
@@JustD1zz my life quality has iproved about 400÷ and im super greatful
@@jeuzus Spill the beans! What was going on before that your not dealing with Now?
I got diagnosed with BPD last year but I wonder if it’s actually Bipolar II. I plan on making a journal documenting my mood swings just to see the length and intensity. They’re always intense, but my length of swings are either within hours or days (which is common in BPD) but I often feel like I have either an underlying long term depression or an underlying long term hypomania. It’s so confusing, luckily despite the confusion, I’m getting a lot of benefits from DBT.
SAME (got BD II, sometimes I feel I may have BPD idk 😭)
Same here
I was diagnosed with bpd traits and bipolar II. The tell tale sign of bpd is your interpersonal relationships.
I wish the subtitles were available on this because her voice goes up and down (lowers and raises). I have good hearing, I just don't like having to turn up the volume when her voice gets lower because obviously when it raises it will be even louder. Other than that, it's an informative video.
It’s like you just explained my life for the past 4 years
Food is used as a punishment..it’s the only thing that you feel you have control over when you’re in the depressed state…be it gorging yourself, binging then throwing up or starving yourself. It coincides with feeling guilt and shame when your in the depressed state of being. You would be correct about bulima being the front runner.
The eating disorder thing will be tied to the depression
i agree ! this talk struck me as I have anorexia and I ALWAYS relapse in the winter when i'm depressed and improve in the summer when my mood is better
I was diagnosed bipolar, but I'm just depressed all the time. No energy ever and I sleep properly and don't oversleep.
For real?
misdiagnosed maybe
Bipolar 2 isn't Bipolar 1 Lite. Bipolar 2 is characterized by more extreme depressions which results in a higher suicide rate. In this respect, it is more dangerous than Bipolar 1
well tbh i dont think calling one or the other more dangerous is accurate at all. mania that comes with bipolar 1 is extremely dangerous. and so are the more intense depressive episodes that tend to come with bipolar two. the suicide risk is higher for depressive episodes but bipolar 1 manic episodes also can come with an extreme suicide risk and combined with the saftey risk that mania holds id say bipolar 2 and bipolar 1 arw both extremely dangerous disorders and shouldnt really be compared because every experineces each so differntly. but yes, someone with bipolar 2 should not feel invalidated or like they struggle less because its extremely dangerous and the suicide risk is high. but we shouldnt compare them as they are both seperate disorders that show themselfs so differentley for everyone.
@@sarahmadeline92 Hi Sarah. I'm not saying Bipolar 1 is in any way less dangerous. I'm saying both are just as dangerous for different reasons.
@@paulfreeman4900 i have suicidal thoughts every hour due to bp 2
Yes, I agree
@@siddharthrajan24 I'm sorry to hear that. But with the right medication you may be able to live a less fraught and scary life. Meds don't fix the illness, they just take the edge off a bit.
well rounded presentation
Also frequent mixed episodes and infrequent hypo/manic episodes lead me to go undiagnosed... I wonder how many people just like me go misdiagnosed
Here's to us.
Great presentation. One thing I found to be missing however was mention of trauma! Trauma can also look a lot like bipolar disorder. Please think of adding this in the future or when you're doing rule outs or treatment planning. :)
It can be trauma that causes the bi-polar diagnosis.
Omg absolutely this is me trauma but misdiagnosed as bi po 2 big mistake
Hey, wanted to say that the diffrence is with trauma you don't have hypomanie or manie.. i have Cptsd and i can clearly tell the difference between my bipolar 2 or my PTSD..theyre both very differently
Great information. I cant stand listening to someone so full of themselves. She said "I" more in the first few minutes than I do in a month
GPs have (or should have) a duty to ask the right questions regarding previous episodes of hypomania. Some may not have received adequate training but mental health is health and they should be well versed on the conditions and spotting signs that it might be bipolar and not unipolar depression. There has been a lot of negligence within the medical field even within psychiatric professionals.
I'm not sure if my G.F has BP-2 or one of the other disorders described here but she will construct issues out of thin air just so she has something to blame rather than admitting she needs help with her downs. When she is experiencing the onset of a down and first becoming agitated it becomes easy for her to find something to blame her down on. Then a full blown down happens. But when she's up, she's way up. And when she's down, she's way down. Also, it seems to have a genetic component to it. Others in her family also display the same symptoms. In fact, it's so common place in her family they even have a saying they use with each other. I had to talk my sister/brother ect. "Down off the ledge".
diagnosed at 29. survived, 40 now. won't say things get easier. they don't. but schlep through it. if i, a total idiot, can do it, so can you.
I actually got misdiagnosed with bipolar 1. I stop going to the doctor at 19. When back to the doctor when I was 27 with one of the worse depressive episodes I ever had. I was diagnosed with MDD until my doctor gave an antidepressant. I told I couldn’t sleep and I’m very agitated, and she said “you’re a typical bipolar 2”. I noticed she has been very serious about my overall health because it took my entire teenage years and most of my 20s to get me the right diagnosis.
Never mind, my dad just told me I did have mood stabilizers at some point as a young teen but I completely forgot about those because the symptoms must have gone into remission. This is why proper, long-term treatment takes soooo many years.
I have PTSD and have been misdiagnosed as major depression disorder instead of bipolar type 2 in regard to my other symptoms. The PTSD mimics certain symptoms so it took forever for me to be properly diagnosed. I have finally been properly diagnosed as bipolar type 2 and am getting ready to start meds. :)
It was 10 years with a wrong diagnosis . So glad I know now what’s wrong with me .
20 years for me lol
I cried and mourned not getting the right treatment younger. Made me so sad for myself. I wanted to be a nurse but I couldn't control my emotions and depression.
I’m so happy I found this video I wanna cry
seroquel gave me chest pain to this day even after being taken off it 6 year ago, i can remember the first 2 years taking it i forgot my name for 4 days, that scared the shit out of me.
I'm sorry to hear that. When you initially took Seroquel, it gave we me horrible, vivid nightmares. I think I hallucinated once. Had to get off it. Yes, I read that Seroquel had long term effects. I wish you good health
ED can be because of a need for control. If one's mood is out of control and fluctuates greatly, could there be a need to exert control over whatever area they can be control.
thats called personality disorder
This is a bit scary…this nurse is doing a lot of mixing bipolar 1 and 2. Also, how about waiting 30 years and being a guinea pig because NO ONE gets that you have anything. GP’s clearly don’t understand mental health. Why do we suppose so many fall through the cracks and end up self medicating? This is all kinds of messed up and what’s scary is the fact that she’s actually “teaching others. 😳
My experience.....exactly. GPs at walk in clinics (can't find a doctor where I live) just don't know.
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She acknowledges her inexperience in the beginning of the video. "I'll teach more about it so I learn more about it." Oh well. There is a lot of other info around
I have adhd and am looking into seeing if I might have bipolar 2 but I can’t concentrate on a lengthy video,like this
Please post the second episode’s link here.
Does mania look different in different personality types? And what are signs you can look for when you're cycling into depression? Can you do anything to stop the severity? What should you tell your doctor when you start to feel depression is coming?
What do you consider the break between major depressive episodes and hypomania? I don't count two days of mild hypomania every couple months as a hypomania episode separating episodes. Meaning I have had major depression for an entire year (which is really really not fun fyi) i think two times. I suppose that would be rapid cycling?? So in 12 months id have had basically SIX 2 month long episodes in that year. Also misdiagnosed 10 years
I can confirm that synthetic drugs can be traced in a urine test.
Through a very recent experience with a family member, we honestly dont know whether she has bipolar or not, although she was diagnosed with it following being spiked.
Does anybody know how we can define whether her recent illness was due to the drug or if it is bipolar.
She is very anti drugs & doesn't drink apart from very occasionally.
She was sectioned & they found spice in her system.
Look into drug-induced psychosis. Hope that helps
I think the eating disorder in people with bipolar is to have control, and it's also to self medicate..
i just said yes to every single symptom she listed in 10 subtle signs
Looking at possible bipolar. I don't eat during what I've always called "high anxiety" times because I literally just forget amid the list of 1000 things i have to do. I don't eat when I'm depressed because... I'm depressed and eating is just another task.
wish there were subtitles for the questions, can't hear them at all
My life exactly. Misdiagnosed as Major Depressive Disorder for *36 years*
Someone explain to me about work things? I never was very good at work but have always excelled at school. I have lots of friends but I don’t like being told what to do.
My life has been hell for years cycling on the wrong medication.
It is difficult to detect when it is not there. It only appears after SSRI treatment for many peoples.
I believe people can be manic in your mind and physically depressed on the outside that is what is being overlooked in some people!!
Yes, mixed episodes/features!
BUT, how do you access any of this treatment when you cant access a psychiatrist? My GP is useless
I sure wish I could hear the audience comments, and also read the titles of the books she displays on the projector near the end of the lecture.
Maybe someone watching this on a bigger screen can read them, but I'm on my phone, which is my only form of internet access.
i think i got it
here are the book titles with authors:
An Unquiet Mind by Kay Redfield Jamison
Wishful Drinking by Carrie Fisher
The Bipolar Disorder Survival Guide, Second Edition: What You and Your Family Need to Know by David J. Miklowitz
Touched with Fire by Kay Redfield Jamison
Detour: My Bipolar Road Trip in 4-D by Lizzie Simon
To Walk on Eggshells: Is to Care for a Mental Illness by Jean Johnston
Bipolar 2: Bipolar Survival Guide for Bipolar Type II: Are You at Risk? 9 Simple Tips to Deal with Bipolar Type II Today by Heather Rose
Bipolar 2: Creating The Right Bipolar Diet & Nutritional Plan to Deal with Bipolar Type II Today by Samantha Rose
The Bipolar II Disorder Workbook: Managing Recurring Depression, Hypomania, and Anxiety (A New Harbinger Self-Help Workbook) by Stephanie McMurrich Roberts and 2 more
@@omelettego Thank you!
Just a reminder that CPTSD and Bipolar can coexist in the same person…it’s called comorbidity. CPTSD is a result of the traumas and the trauma changes the development of the brain especially if endured in early childhood as well as genetic predisposition that can result in bipolar which simply means a dance between polar opposites.
I am diagnosed with bipolar 2.
I made last month a neuropsicosiagnostic. And I found that I have atenttional disorder, and QI high.
I think that I had depresión, and now I AM health.
What are some non - medication treatments that actually work? (Natural remedies)
Cannabis
Luke Pratt lol I’ll second what Nina said but natural ways include but not limited too, regular exercise, eating clean, regular sleep, and NO DRINKING, took me years to really understand how much that affected me the most. But remaining spiritually aligned helps everything’s else fall in line.
I’m wondering this to. I have no interest in regularly taking a medication.
Do you have one on late diagnosis and parent denial? ❤️
I'm 49, my mother is 70 and at 26 she was diagnosed as manic depressive, called bipolar nowadays. She took meds, didn't like them. She has highs and lows, she is aware of the them, but prefers to live this way, even if she knows that it ruins her life. Like she said, it's 'my house and my money and I'll burn it all down if I want to.' This is what she wants.
I have been diagnosed with bpd traits but don’t feel that it fully fits. I sometimes think this is partly my fault because I don’t feel that I am ever fully honest with doctors etc that I speak with. I’m learning more to bipolar 2 with complex ptsd from abuse. Speaking with my gp for a referral again to mental health team on friday
I didn't ask for this, I was born with it. I have been told my whole life how to feel, think ect. Have compassion with these people and with me, understand, this is people lives. And I am not a drug abuser so stop it.
My example of the lows - I question: is life worth living given there exist a global wide Pandemic in present day. The fore may re - occur?