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Does not supporting an idea mean intolerance towards it? For me support means active engagement, not just tolerance. Can't someone simply tolerate something without supporting it?
@@AstralTraveler But being born lgbt isn't "an idea", it is an innate part of who a person is and can not change. Just lgbt how dyslexic people are born dyslexic and asian people are born asian, lgbt people are born lgbt and deserve equal rights.
@@John_Weiss Yep. Narcissists: Love me! Know that you're doing the right thing when people -criticise your ideas- persecute and scoff you! Followers: You were so right! People keep trying to force us to adopt their views! It still amazes me that even now that therapists treat ex-theists for their problems with the abuses that are intrinsic and inherent to theistic faith people still don't acknowledge or even realise that faith based religions are narcissistic abuse. Always, because they have to be. They claim you're sick and broken and sell you the "cure", that does absolutely nothing but keep you sick and craving for comfort that you could easily get from just living in a secular society and acknowledging our social nature and tendency to help each other, even strangers, or actually in many cases we'd more easily help a stranger becuase with them we at least don't know how -bigtoed- (LMAO over that typo 🤣) bigoted they are (yet). **hides toes** 🤣 Nah, here they are - they're huge, and I'm still good people :)
Honestly, probably what happened. 40 year old guy from Alabama got called homophobic, wrote a genderswap high school AU fic and then payed some kid to read it. Just to make sure that everyone understands: joke
That is exactly the vibe I got from this! (Though it might have just as easily been a middle aged Karen.) I came here to the comments to see if anyone else thought the same.
Thats just sad, the school i go to is a school where being homophobic and transphobic is considered the norm, every friend I have said they don’t like the lgbtq+ community, I think I managed to convince my best friend otherwise over a long time but it feels like if I said that I support the LGBTQ+ community to some of my friends what happened to you might happen to me, that they won’t even be able to look at me the same way as minorities are the laughing stock of many in our year group. So called "edgy humor” to hide bigoted viewpoints.
The optimist in me hopes that the end of this story is "...because after that she saw me as more than a friend and now we are happily together," but somehow I have the feeling that's not it. 😥
If she even realized that was the case, she would have probably been more accepting and wouldn't think this is some kind of completely hypothetical woke political issue
@ard45387 Honestly, if this story is real, the narrator sounds like she completely lacks empathy for others, especially for those who have experiences that differ from her own (you can also tell that she highly exaggerated certain points of the story pertaining to how she was treated to gain sympathy); her viewpoint sounds very immature and narcissistic, which would explain why she victimizes herself rather than trying to gain some self awareness to understand her affect on other people and why they might be upset with her. Unfortunately, however, unless she was able to mature and come outside of herself, her mindset is unlikely to change.
@@lynster6034 i think the whole story is fake lol- like this sounds like a gacha 2018 movie titled: "hated child becomes homophobic and is bullied GLMM"
Do you think she sounds annoying on purpose as a silent act of rebellion? Got cast on fiverr and tried to sabotage the project while still getting that bag? Sounds rad actually
@@anzaia2164 interesting theory, but I agree with the theory from another comment, this is 'fundy baby' voice, a specific submissive voice that fundamentalist christians teach their girls and women so they can never sound threatening to men. It can be taught - for example the weird republican response to the state of the union address used a formerly assertively speaking senior woman politician from their ranks and had her sit in a kitchen wearing housewife clothes and talking in this voice (which fortunately backfired on them as it was widely reported on and parodied in the media, although those fundamentalist submissive wives may have loved it!). So my vote goes for a deliberate choice by the producer/director and an adult voice actor specifically using this vocal style.
I associate that voice with TH-cam adverts for anime computer games with very-young-looking anime women as characters. The TH-cam ad algorithm really doesn't know what to do with me. :-)
Not everywhere! (see my other answers for examples from the UK) And the fact that was what they portrayed in the video shows that the makers know perfectly well that things are changing, the majority of the population supports queer people and that their views are a tiny minority.
Does not supporting an idea mean intolerance towards it? For me support means active engagement, not just tolerance. Can't someone simply tolerate something without supporting it?
@@AstralTraveler If someone says "I don't support the LGBTQ+ community", that does not mean "I am not currently actively working/donating in favor of LGBTQ+-related causes", it means "I think LGBTQ+ people deserve fewer rights than what they have/want."
Seriously! Where is this exclusive, but inclusive school located? I was going to make a joke about bmneeding to get a letter from an owl to get in-- but then I saw the irony there!
I live in California, one of the most progressive states in America. I also go to a really accepting public school. I still get called slurs and faced discrimination for being queer and trans by other students and teachers (I also get some dirty looks cause I've been vocal about my identity ._.)
“I don’t like cheese” is an opinion. “I don’t support people who like cheese” is an attitude. An opinion on your own preferences is harmless. An attitude on the preferences of others absolutely can be harmful.
It’s absolutely fine to not like cheese It’s bigotry to pass laws saying anyone who likes cheese can’t get married, adopt children, receive healthcare, can get evicted for liking cheese, can legally be fired for liking cheese, and cannot appear in media because they might “influence children” to start liking cheese.
@@HYDROCARBON_XD i can understand how you'd see it that way but many people don't. "supporting the community" for many people is as simple as saying or believing "I accept you." not that you're expected to donate all your life savings and maybe a couple kidneys to their cause i think if you told someone "I don't *support* you, but I respect you." they'd take it more as "Well I don't really think you should be allowed to be this way and I do not support that, but I respect you for trying." which wouldn't come across nicely for many even if you personally believe it's alright
I can't empathize with being bullied for being a homophobe, but I was bullied by homophobes as a young man. The bullying I experienced didn't involve dirty looks so much as four young, slur-taunting punks accosting me to take turns kicking me in the head and ribs for having seen me come from a gay disco
Dang, I'm sorry, I hope you healed up okay. I grew up in San Francisco in the late 90s and early 2000s so I didn't see much homophobia. But I got a ton of racism. When I had just turned 18 in 2009, I was jumped and stomped on just like you by six, young Black men calling me Asian slurs. I was in a nice neighborhood too. I was sitting on a bench waiting for the MUNI L train. They just saw that I was Asian, asked me what time it was, and then threw a heavy object at my head and then rat packed me while I was dazed from the object. They danced on my head and torso. They only stopped because the MUNI pulled up. I hope you don't hate straight people because of your experience. I know it's hard to get over being victim to a hate crime. It was harder for me because I'm not the first person in my family to experience a hate crime like this. It happens all the time in the Bay Area to Asian people by Black men.
That very fact contradicts the conclusion of the story too! Especially considering they supposedly knew why they didn't support at the time of the story. (see 16:25)
I think the implication as that any good child would simply refuse if they weren't feeling preassured or chose to stand up for themselves. When child adopts convictions you agree with, it's because they're sensible. When they adopt ideas you don't agree with, they must necessarily have been taken advantage of. In either case, LGBTQ+ matters are framed as something inauthetntic and imposed because they're "political."
I usually think it's because they were told they can't be LGBTQ+, so no one else can be. Also, a lot of people believe these phobes are actually queer but can't be that. If that makes sense.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 Well put. I wish you were wrong about it all. But yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head, especially when saying it's assumed sensible to agree with their views. They're the kind of people who just waffle assertions and assume that everyone agrees that it's universally true and self evident. And it's usually neither. And even if it's correct and self evident, you still have to explain what you mean by it in the context you said it in. For example: rain will fall equally on the virtuous and the wicked. Okay, sure, and then what? It's not wrong, but wth? And to paint a picture of how wildly different this same sentence can be in different scenarios, imagine that I said that when the video was about Hunter Biden's and Trump's felony convictions. Then the rain would stand for justice. Which would actually make more sense than when Buddha said it and implied that the rain is bad, which is really dumb. But now imagine I said it in response to an execution for blasphemy. What would/could it imply then? I mean, even platitudes presented in kindness can be deadly weapons in the hands of the ignorant and zealous. I commented earlier that we don't owe anyone an explanation. I added that I meant that in the context of who we are and who we love. We don't have to explain why we are who we are or why we love who we love, and people should stop expecting people to do that and then accuse people of being unreasonable when they express anger over such expectations. The expectation justifies anger and it's okay to express emotions. But I also think that everyone who speaks can be demanded to explain their words. It's called accountability. Words are actions, not identities. Arguably loving is a collection of actions and I exempt that from requiring explanation. But yeah, for the individual actions done out of love we can demand explanations, but those _are_ usually self evident and hopefully a pattern. Actions that are claimed to be out of love that are incidental are red flags. People should stop barking at the moon to just make a noise while pretending to say anything, while implying a whole lot that is never said. And we should tell people to stfu or explain what they mean, and dogs as well by the way 🤣WTF is up with taht? "MOON! MOON! MOON!" It's a hot air balloon, just like your head, and water is wet, AND THEN F'ING WHAT?
"I just don't agree with LGBT people" is literally like saying that you don't agree with people having green eyes. Like, the heck do you want us to do about it?
@@johanpersson7585The only difference is you can hide that you're gay more easily than you can hide green eyes, but that's really it. Otherwise it's similar. Imagine sending someone to conversion therapy for having green eyes. Sounds dumb af, and it is the same for lgbt+ people because conversion therapy has literally never worked and makes mental health outcomes worse
The fact they had a child voice this, but there's no way this happened in a school at that age range. Middle or high school, maybe, but even the conversation feels fake and it reeks of "I'm the victim for being a bigot".
Someone else said it and it sounds right, the writer took a story of a queer person coming out to a friend, who went and told the whole school. And then changed the roles. If you watch it with the idea that the protagonist is the LGBTQ person it makes a lot more sense.
@@elaexplorer yeah, but the language used also tells me it wasn't at the age group it happened in. Maybe I'm wrong, but the political talk and discussing the LGBT+ community in general with strong views just doesn't seem like it'd happen in an elementary school. Although, I haven't been to one in many years, so I can't say. Most kids I've seen just talk about video games, TH-cam, or some other interests, but I've never seen young kids talking about this kind of stuff before. I guess they also never said it was an elementary school, but the voice seems like they're trying to make it look like it happened at a very young age. You're probably right about it being a story with the roles reversed though, it makes a ton of sense.
@@MrFoxtheSpyoh itbwaa clearly written by an adult that used a fake little girl voice. I doubt an actual child voiced this. Even if the originally story wasn't, they way its phrased in this was clearly done by an adult. Even as a kid that had college level vocab and reading levels by the end of 4th grade, there is a BIG difference between how and the way in which I speak now vs as an actual child. It is not at all natural sounding for a kid. Unless we're maybe talking like 17, maybe 16. But only because they're trying to directly parrot how their parents speak and how they choose to phrase things.
It's likely not a child reading this. It could easily be done by a grown woman, which makes it far more likely, that an adult has done this. With that said, it's all BS.
You're 100% right! When someone says that being LGBTQ+ is a choice and you ask them when did they decide to be straight, they say that they never decided it, it was always like that. If they feel kids are bring groomed to be LGBTQ+ and when they are asked who groomed them to be straight, they say they weren't groomed. They don't see the hypocrisy of their own words and thought process. For many of those people, nothing we say nor any facts we share will get them to change their minds. I've recently just cut ties with someone who I thought was a friend because I found out he is transphobic. He was going on and one with his disgusting comments about trans people. I'm a cis straight woman and I was wearing an LGBTQ+ necklace! I was in the backseat of the car and he was in the front. I know he saw my necklace earlier that day but he might have forgotten I was wearing it as he wasn't looking at me.
I'm in the US. My trans kid just asked me and my partner (both trans) "when Trump gets elected again will we be able to be a family still?" That's the difference. Homophobic parents don't have to look their child in the eye and say "we'll always be a family even if some of us have to go to another country and some of us can't follow". No sympathy.
What irritates me the most is how falsetto they make the narrator's voice, in order to make her sound like an innocent and unsuspecting child being persecuted for her beliefs. I've seen this attitude most often from fundamentalist religious homophobes, so it doesn't surprise me she's playing the victim. Assuming any of this actually happened.
You mean the 'fundie baby voice'? I've heard of this only relatively recently. To explain to anyone else reading, it's a (somewhat subconscious) affect women and girls within that lifestyle do to make themselves seem more acquiescent and meek therefore acceptable to the men in control of their lives.
Those people are literally the first to indoctrinate and harm (wether physically, mentally...) childs and literal newborns, and yet they're still tryna play the card of "look they're indoctrinating our childs against their will"
@@joycelinlgbtq That makes the men in control of their lives look like p3d0s. Like, *_why else_* would those men find acting like a little girl attractive in _any way?_ "Every Accusation is A Confession," with the Christian-Taliban, isn't it?
@@joycelinlgbtq This was a calculated choice. She really hams up the effect at certain points, where she starts whimpering as if she will cry, she is in full control and you can hear it if you know how to do a voice like this. This was an adult voice actress, doing a baby voice to portray a child character, reading a script written by someone else. These videos aren't made by a teen in their bedroom, but by a production company. Nothing inherently wrong with that concept, except when they lie and pretend it's a real story to push their sob story propaganda. (Re-reading this, and I sounded a little harsh, so I just thought to add: I'm not attacking your point, I agree that what you describe is a thing, and can happen subconsciously. I just think it's an active effort in this example.)
There is nothing wrong with following our religion as long as we don't insult eachother. Sexuality is something no one can control but there is also nothing wrong with following you religion and being respectful towards queer people and not insulting them. Straight or not, we're all humans and we're all equal.
Came out to a friend yesterday as non binary! I babysit for her, and she's religious, so I was worried she'd cut ties, or agree to use my preferred pronouns, but not in front of the kids. Instead, she was really positive about it, and said that it was really great for her kids to grow up knowing a trans person, and having that normalised. Thought I'd share that bit of positivity! 😊
That is awesome, reading stuff like this really brightens my day. :) I hope you have a great time with those kids, and (as a family friend and babysitter) help shape them into wonderful humans like you and your friend seem to be.
I had a homie who said they don’t support, and then followed it up with ‘but that’s because I need every dollar I can get’ and it turns out he thought support was exclusively 1) voting for LGBT+ supportive candidates (we were in high school marching band) and 2) donations to charities like the Trevor Project. They did actually support btw
The wording of "supporting" is problematic in varied interpretation. I also interpreted "support" to mean actively doing stuff, like donating or voting, like what you said. So, that makes "not supporting" include anything from indifference to hate. I'm personally indifferent to most things like that, since they don't affect me; well, not this specifically, since I'm both aro/ace & enby, but in general. That would probably be why a simple answer like "no" to "Do you support LGBT+?" wouldn't immediately make me think of defriending the person. I'd interpret that as indifference, provided that there's no elaboration/thauts about it. If there was elaboration that revealed that "no" to mean it in a hateful way, then there'd be aversion.
@@Lvmindere The "interpret 'support' to mean actively doing stuff" is HEAVILY context-dependent to be interpreted. The voice suggests an elementary school or middle-school student telling the story, but even if it were a high-school student they would generally not have financial independence and thus limiting 'support' to only financial contributions is...excessively narrow an interpretation.
Honestly that guy sounds pretty based. Just automatically assuming that "supporting" a group means materially acting on their behalf rather than just not being an obstacle for them
I'm recycling my reply to a different comment b/c it's applicable here as well and took me a long-ass time to write, as noted in the 2nd paragraph: "As a stand-alone verb, asking "Do you support ___________?" assumes whomever is being asked knows it's not meant to be taken literally, as in giving assistance by taking part in activism, outreach, fundraising, donations, etc. It would be disingenuous to think most people don't know exactly what is being asked, but the possibility exists for someone to misinterpret and give the wrong impression unintentionally. Not very likely, but possible. For context, I have mild OCD that manifests in written communication - being misunderstood is a major phobia and source of anxiety. I have to eliminate ambiguity & find the perfect words to express myself clearly and accurately, so I spend a lot of time re-reading and revising, looking up synonyms to find a better-fitting word, before posting anything online, and I still end up making edits. This reply will take at least an hour. I will also add that I am queer (pansexual & gender non-conforming). All this is to say that it wouldn't hurt to reframe the question, i.e., "Does someone's sexual orientation or gender identity affect how you feel about them?", or to add more specificity, i.e., "Do you support equal rights for members of the LGBT+ community?" or to ask an open-ended question, i.e., "How do you feel about legislation that prohibits LGBT+ people from adopting or fostering children?". I feel these types of questions would be more conducive to opening up a discussion as well. Take the first question - someone who has misconceptions or is completely unaware of what the terms "sexual orientation" or "gender identity" mean will gain a better understanding, which is never a bad thing." I'd love to hear others' thoughts!
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Could you imagine if someone replied "no" to "Hey, do you support [insort minority race here] people?" A vast majority of people would rightfully flame the person who expressed opposition to such group of people.
The thing is, homophobes do the exact same shit with race. Everyone I've ever heard proclaim to not be a homophobe/transphobe/racist was spewing bigoted shit left and right between their reassurance that they are, in fact, not a bigot. It's hilarious that they expect me to believe that when they treat other human beings they don't even know as an aesthetic choice they get to approve or disapprove of.
@@Gorehoundula Yeah. Honestly, if anyone started a sentence with “I’m not racist/homophobic/transphobic” I would stop them right there and explain to them that having to start a sentence with that proves that what they’re about to say IS racist/homophobic/transphobic, and them saying it means that by proxy, so are they. Whether or not that would actually work, I have no clue.
The thing i don't understand is why doesn't minorities and persecuted communities go hand-in-hand? only time i've seen that was with furries who are often friends with LGBT and are also attacked by bigots (we have common enemies). seeing (for exemple) women or black people attack LGBT for no reason is just.... FRIENDLY FIRE, FRIENDLY FIRE ! Oh also i've met gender non comforming people who hate lgbt. at this point it's not even friendly fire, it's straight up self-sabotaging
@@KarmicID Sadly, I think I've seen the empathy *fail* to bridge across from one axis of marginalization to another more often than not. You would think that people who have experienced one type of bigotry would "know better" than to indulge in other flavors of bigotry, but you would often be disappointed by the way it actually plays out. It should work that way, we all *should* support one another... but people gonna people. It doesn't make sense, but humans often don't.
I lost a friend last night. Last year her oldest daughter reposted a Facebook link leading to Matt Walsh. There are two American personalities named Matt Walsh. The one in question is an anti-trans commentator. When I saw her link, I silently noped out of that friendship. Last night, I saw her posts on Facebook and decided to ask how she'd been, and I truthfully told her I'm scared about the election. And from there it very-fast devolved into an argument about trans people. She called me sick and mentally ill. She had been there for me in 2012 at the griup home i was living at when i was 16. I'd spent nights at her house, hunted on her land with her daughters, given them Christmas gifts. It was like i never knew her, like she was a completely different person. I'm so scared that I'll never be able to express myself as a woman. I don't like this body and i dont wnat to live like this forever.
I'm so sorry:( sometimes we just have to let go. It's less painful that way. I had to so somthing similar with my own mother. And it was not easy, but If they are hurting you so deeply and hate a fundamental part of you, let them go. Life might get easier from there.
They weren't a true friend if they could turn on you like that. You are valid and I hope there will be a day in the future that you can live safely and comfortably as your true self. Hang in there.
I remember when TH-camrs like StrangeÆons first reacted to this a couple years back. Her take that the friend may have had a crush on her is so relatable. Nobody just pops that question without a reason, and this would be such a soul crushing reaction.
For real. My high school had a gay kid who was running for class council whose last name was Gray. You can guess what happened to all the posters, yeah, at best the r got crossed out, at worst slurs, calls for violence, and other unpleasantries. And when he tried to get help "the cameras never saw who did it". Including two posters directly under cameras. Bullshit.
I don't know enough about the average US school in 2024, but there are absolutely schools like that all over the world, especially in places with more progressive governments like Europe (especially the Scandinavian countries). Here in the UK, I have siblings who are teachers and although there is still misogyny and homophobia amongst the kids, it is very clear it is not to be tolerated and anyone doing it would experience negative consequences, their schools policies are supportive of LGBTQ+ students, including respecting pronouns, inclusive school uniform rules etc. When the first trans kid came out at the school where my brother was vice-principle, his wife (also a teacher at the school) remarked 'the kids were all lovely about it'. I also know a trans guy who works with trans youth, and has helped schools to support their first 'out' trans student, including working with all the teachers, who each showed a video the student had made and facilitated a class discussion on it, and supporting the student in presenting to an assembly of the whole school. Change is possible, and there are plenty of great examples out there of how this can be different...
I'd also say that the premise of this video is that the homophobic kid was then shunned by the whole school, which would imply that the other students were all supportive, and the makers know this, and know they are in a tiny minority.
Being gay, lesbian, trans, etc.: An intrinsic and involuntary identity that is typically targeted by laws meant to marginalize us. LGBT+ is not an opinion or ideology. Being a homophobe: A choice to be bigoted. This is an opinion and an ideology. There is a HUGE difference and yes, you can have a different opinion about us queer folks. But you're not exempt from the consequences of having that opinion. You can't control how people feel about you when you make the choice to actively hurt them.
This is very true, but I want to push back on the "homophobia is a choice" thing--it's only a choice for a psychologically stable adult who was not brainwashed, and you'll find few of those in America who are homophobic. We can choose to *change* the beliefs we were raised with, but we don't necessarily choose to have them in the first place. A homophobe from a homophobic environment is different from a homophobe who comes out of a supportive LGBT+ environment, but the latter may have severe mental health issues. Conservatism has a strong correlation with anxiety. I had three anxiety disorders. Diagnosis and treatment helped me dramatically with deprogramming myself.
@@WynneL I think that anything with "phobia" is an irrational fear. Anything that causes an irrational fear is not healthy at all. I have agoraphobia. I have an irrational fear of stepping outside of the house. But this is not healthy. I can't do anything for myself, I live my life with anxiety, I don't get a healthy amount of sun. I've missed out on things in life. It needs therapy. It's the same with an irrational fear of homosexuality. I think it's strange to be so bothered by another person's existence. It warrants therapy for a lot of people. What's worse is when society supports, promotes, and causes that phobia.
Being a homophobe isn't an opinion nor an ideology It's just people externalizing their need to harm others and choosing the LGBT community to be the punching bags (they act surprised when we defend ourselves)
Eh, “Love the sinner, hate the sin” isn’t applied to this case. That’s a reaaally bad take. It means you can love someone without having to love their problem (ex: a mother caring for their son who’s suffering from addiction). The quote’s not that bad,,
@@ymirfritz4757 "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is the standard Christian defense of their homophobic bullshit, it's absolutely the take here. Doesn't matter if you think it's misapplied, they don't. They view homosexuality as a "problem" and claim they can hate that without hating the person.
@@ymirfritz4757A ton of Christians use this phrase specifically in regards to LGBT+ people. I used to use it before I wised up. It is a problem that can be fixed or a bad habit that can be changed, it's one thing, but no one wants to be seen as just a sinner, as unclean, thinking that others cringe because of who they love. Religious people also are okay with denying LGBT+ people the same rights as straight cis people solely because of the genders of the people involved. Gay men still have restrictions on when they can donate blood, same-sex partners are often denied rights to be with their partner in places where their marriage is not recognized as legitimate, and conversion therapy is still being practiced on young people despite the fact that it doesn't work (with few exceptions) and isn't necessary. People's definition of "sin" varies, and some prefer to follow what they believe is morally and ethically right instead of having a book tell them what to do. I have no problem with someone hating a problem that actively harms that person and those around them, but being queer in itself does not harm anyone.
Often when I hear stuff like “I don’t support the gay community but I still respect gay people”, I would like those people who say this to replace the word “gay” with “straight” and hear how stupid that sounds.
I just use the logic against them. Especially works with religious people. Like, I don't agree with your savage and backwards religion, but I'll politely ignore that I'd you're willing to have a civil conversation.
friend... I have bad news for you about how a whole lot of people feel about us Jews. Poland, ironically, is particularly nasty, though not the only place by far.
Part of this video made me tear up, I recently blocked a friend for being homophobic and I’ve been fighting with myself on if I was in the wrong.. but I’m glad to hear that Jammie was talking about how it’s normal to have a guard when faced with someone who’s being homophobic
I'm currently beating myself over the fact that I don't cut all conversations with my transphobic colleague who refuses to use my name or gender me correctly
Yeah, they totally took a story of a queer kiddo from those story time channels, rewrote it a bit with keywords, etc. and then published it. This is so silly. The whole story doesn't understand the difference of the betrayal of a queer kiddo whose friend told the whole school about it, leading to them being ostracised...
At least at some point, clickfarm channels with stupid, implausible, or meandering stories intended to hook children were apparently popular, so I wouldn't be surprised if some clickfarmer just lazily and cynically decided to take a "coming out" story and flip it to maximize engagement. I don't know if that's better or worse than creating a homophobic video out of malice.
That video is hilarious because her argument is "I just have a different opinion" but if it were an LGBTQ+ kid it would be "I just have a different identity". One of those is more hurtful to reject than the other. 'What I think' and 'what I am' are on completely different levels!
I watched this with Mr. Atheist aka Jimmy Snow reacting to it and he brought up a good point. “What does it mean to not agree with LGBT?” The only way I can see it is not seeing LGBT as a valid way of being and treating queer people as less than human, whether you realize you’re doing that or not. We don’t get a choice what gender, sexual orientation, romantic attraction or lack there if we have. It’s not like I woke up one day and thought, “hey you know what sounds fun? Being a persecuted minority even more than I already am! I’m going to transition and date someone of the same sex as me!” That has never happened for anyone. I guarantee. It is not a choice and if anyone tells me “I don’t agree with you being queer” and we can’t find any common ground… I am cutting them out of my life. It’s really quite simple as that.
That didn’t happen to me either, and It should’ve been impossible bc of my families views and my age with how everyone says “leave them alone, and they’ll grow out of it” I newly discovered myself as a trans woman, can’t tell my “family” at all, can’t transition, I’m scared to even leave this comment here.
@@BenthewildchildE750 🤍🩷🩵 U ARE NOT ALONE keep looking for safe spaces. I'm trans too. it was scary coming out end i did lose some friends and family. but getting to finally live as yourself is so worth it
@@BenthewildchildE750, lots of love to you ❤ Know that we see you for the wonderful woman you are, even if you can't show her to the world yet. Be safe, but being happy is not to much to ask for ❤
@@BenthewildchildE750I’m a trans man and I know how you feel, just know that your family controlling who you are won’t be forever, and I’m sure you’ll grow up to be a wonderful woman
The idea that a friend asks that question, which sounds like she's 'testing the waters' to come out, on getting a negative response would then come out to EVERYONE ELSE at school is ridiculous!
I didn't get that she was coming out to the whole school, only that she told her other friends (who presumably then told theirs etc) that this girl was homophobic. I can read it as she (and other friends of hers) suspected that this girl might be homophobic, and she decided to ask her directly (or drew the short straw!). When my daughter was in high school in Vancouver in the 2000's I remember her telling me 'it's not like when you were at school, now it's the homophobes who everyone thinks are weird and no-one wants to hang out with!' - clearly the makers of this film know that!
I found it especially weird that she tells this person, "How can I be friends with someone who doesn't support what I or ALL OF US do" as if the LGBTQ+ community is everyone but this one girl
@4:41 I did this. Before I came out to my cousin, I asked his opinion on same sex marriage as part of a survey for my government class. This was 2013 or 2014, before it was legal in all 50 states. We come from a super religious family, with his mom being extreme in her views. He said “I support it. I support consenting adults loving each other and joining hands in marriage if they choose.” I came out to him and he was super supportive. Rest of my family… only my grandma was supportive.
@@MinerBat it was the whole survey. We got to pick whatever question we wanted to ask people for the project and that was mine, since at the time same sex marriage was a huge topic. I asked him alongside people in my neighborhood and school. I just used the chance to ask him
> "Got called a homophobe by my best friend in our school :( " > "Tell us what happened?" > "My BFF called me a homophobe :( " > "Oh, but why?" > "Because I was openly a homophobe :( " > "While you were in school?" > "Yes, it was in school :( " As you said, this entire scenario feels like a queerphobe heard a queer person's negative experience when they came out, and the bigot tried to twist it into their own story instead... and did a horrible job at it lol
I came down to the comments to see if that was the case because it really does scream PragerU. That whole disingenuous tone to try to normalize something hateful is their stock in trade.
It was the end of the day, and I was waiting for my bus with one of my friends when she began asking me random questions. All of a sudden, though, she asked: “Hey, have you heard of the LGBT+ community?” “Yes, I have. Is this the last question?” I replied. “No, but almost. Are you gay? Like, are you in the LGBT community?” “Do I give her my honest answer, or should I lie?” I thought. Maybe I should just tell her what I think will make her happy. But what if it’s not the right answer she wants to hear? I mean, she’s my friend. I’m sure it’ll be fine. After a quick pause, I gave her my reply. “Yes, I’m a lesbian!” She tried to hide it, but I saw the shock on her face. She smiled awkwardly, and said, “Oh… okay.” I had no idea what that meant. I thought of it as nothing more than an awkward and random conversation. We said bye to one another as she walked her way home and I hopped on my bus. Before I went to bed, my mind kept replaying my friend’s question and why she acted so awkwardly to my answer. Why did she look like she was hiding something, or what if she doesn’t want to be my friend anymore? Am I a bad person for being a lesbian? The biggest thing I couldn’t get off my mind was her awkward smile hiding her true emotions from me. I thought about it the entire night until I fell asleep, hoping it was just a harmless question and she’d forget about it tomorrow. I walked through the hallway, saying hello to my classmates and friends, and every time I did, they’d brush me off or give me a dirty look. I even had a few people ignore me and whisper something to someone else right in front of me and then walk away. Did I do something wrong? Why are people giving me these mean looks? Finally, I saw my friend who asked me the question the other day, and nervously said, “Hi.” She automatically replied, “Get away from me!” I backed up in shock. We were fine the other day! At least, I thought we were fine. “What!? What did I do!?” At this point, everyone had their eyes on us, waiting to see what would happen. “How dare you be a lesbian!” “What?! Why did you tell everyone!? I thought you were my friend!” “How can I be friends with someone who’s gay!?” She replied. “You’re a monster and a d-e! You just don’t fit in with the rest of us anymore!” At this point, everyone gave me a dirty look and agreed with her. It was like I had committed some kind of sin and didn’t deserve to be around everyone else. In an instant, I was the worst person in the entire school. the only thing I could do was run into the bathroom I cried so hard, so much, and so loud someone in the other stall heard me and told me to shut up. I felt so ashamed of myself for being gay. I hated myself for not lying and saying I was straight. I wanted to go home so badly, but there was no way I could. The rest of the day was just as bad, if not worse. People mocked me and called me “d-e”, which made me cry! I tried to tell them I didn’t choose to like girls, but I was still the same person they always knew. I had never felt so alone, so I decided I had to tell my parents what was happening to me at school. But would they yell at me for liking girls? Or worse still, they might hate me. I entered the kitchen to see both of my parents sitting there. Even though I tried to find the words to tell them I needed to talk, all I could find were tears. Both of them quickly stood up and came to the door where I was standing there to comfort me. My mom asked me what was wrong, and I began to explain. I told them the question my friend asked me the day before and then my answer: that I was a lesbian. To my delight, my mom and dad, they reassured me that it was okay to not be attracted to the opposite gender and to like the same gender; and it was not OK for others to be so rude and disrespectful towards me. Unfortunately, the kids at my school didn’t see it that way. My old friends would either turn their backs to ignore me, or worse, mutter mean words under their breaths as they passed me in the hallways. Their words would cut through me to my core. I would come home everyday, head straight for my room, and cry. My parents would ask, “Darling what’s wrong?” But I couldn’t bring myself to tell them how bad things had become. Over the next few months, my school life was miserable. No one was interested in hearing out my feelings. All they cared about was their own! Things had become so bad at school that my grades start to slip. I just couldn’t concentrate, and no one wanted to work with me or help me in class. Eventually, the school’s head had noticed something wasn’t right and called my parents in for a meeting. I was nervous, scared even, that my parents would be mad at me for me letting this affect my grades, but after seeing how bad things had become and how unhappy I was, they both agreed that the best thing for me would be to move schools and have a fresh start. A year has passed since I moved schools and I’ve made great new friends, all with different sexualities and gender identities. I’m still a lesbian, but now, I’m able to express my sexuality freely. I look back on that day my friend asked me about whether I was gay, and I realize now that she was never going to be a good friend, even if I’d lied and told her I was straight. The way my new friends accept different sexualities and gender identities, rather than turning them into a witch-hunt and isolating LGBT people, has made me feel so at home. I have learned that there will always be people who can’t accept you for who you are, but that is fine. Just because you used to be good friends with someone for years doesn’t mean you have to stay friendly with them if they’re homophobic. You deserve to live your life the way that is the most authentic to you. You don’t need to endure abuse from your peers, and if explaining won’t stop them from bullying you, you can simply cut them out of your life. LGBT kids are bullied way too often, and even though they might look fine on the outside, inside, they could be really hurting.
Thankyou for doing this work - you've nailed it, and this makes it absolutely clear that the supposed 'bullying' the homophobe in video received was nothing compared to the reality of queer kids lives - someone disagreeing with your beliefs/prejudices does not have the huge and lasting emotional and psychological impact that denying your very humanity does.
The original video is like cargo-cult victimhood: they imitate all the superficial parts of being a victim, but it doesn't work the same because the substance isn't there.
Not supporting gays is not an "opinion" like imagine you ask some dude if he supported women. Can you find a single logical difference? It's the exact same level of absolute tomfoolery.
Literally. Just replace the word "gay" with any other word. "Do you support blind people?" "Do you support black people?" "Do you support swedish people?" Doesnt sound so "agree to disagree" anymore.
There's a difference between liking or disliking mint chip ice cream and being a crap person to a marginalized community. We all need equal rights, but we all don't need a certain flavour of ice cream (also mint chip all the way, what's y'all's favourite ice cream?) Edit: Holy crap I love all your flavour choices they sound delicious :)
Also, have you considered asking them why they responded with anger to what you said? Do you understand why your comment is received as dismissive at best and hateful at worst? In the whole length of this video there was no discussion at all of what 'the LGBTQ+ community' is, why they need to be supported (unlike, say, the left handed 'community') etc. Only the idea that you have some kind of right to refuse to respect other people, but expect to be respected and treated well by them. Doesn't their book say 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'?
@@rachelsnee8926 Replace the LGBTQ+ community with the sexy lamp fandom. The story itself wouldn't change internally, since an """opinion""" is just changed for another one. Which shouldn't happen with LGBTQ+ and a made up fandom.
@@KrimsonKattYT People dont just become homophobic because they were treated horribly by a gay person. I didnt start believing that people with brown eyes were bad people because I was once bullied by someone with brown eyes. The reason for that is there isnt a widespread societal belief that theres something wrong with brown eyed people. Bigotry doesnt come into existence out of thin air. Theres a reason for it existing, often because it benefits the people in power in some way. Thats not the only reason, since there are many more things that factor into it. I didnt have to be a piece of shit for people to still hate me and be disgusted by me. I wont say that I'm an angel, but I try to be a good person to everyone and still many people hate me. And when I lash out at them, I'm being a bad person
My family said stuff like "Oh it's not that we don't believe in same-sex marriage, it's that we think the govt should butt out of the institution of marriage" -- "We're not anti-gay, we have lots of gay friends!" -- "Love the sinner, hate the sin" -- "It's okay to be gay, just keep it to yourself." So, bearing that last one in mind, having just moved in with my girlfriend, I stopped speaking to those family. They didn't wanna hear about it, after all. :3
Yeah, here’s what really happened, based on how it’s framed… Gay girl says to friend, “Have you heard of gay people?” Friend: Yes. “Do you support them?” No. “Okay.” *Has just tried to come out to bestie and had her fears of rejection confirmed, proceeds to not say anything to any other person in the school and just tries to wait out till graduation when she can get out and start her life.*
Judging someone for doing something wrong is the right thing to do, not bullying. Being a bigot is wrong. Being gay is not. So one person deserves to be shunned, and the other does not
It probably wasn't even that strong of a reaction, like the girl's making it out to be. Maybe a few side glances, but even then, I doubt she was the school pariah.
While I agree in principle, these are at least portrayed to be children. Sometimes making an LGBT friend can change a life. I think a better thing than judgment is to ask why. If they can't explain themselves, maybe they'll realize, "oh, these are not *my beliefs* but propaganda." It takes time and courage to disagree with one's culture. This very thing happened to me living in Europe, and their calm, compassionate questioning is what led me to let go of the cult thinking I was brainwashed with. Eventually I did research into the original Hebrew of the bible, and realized that regardless of whether I chose to believe or not, the bible does NOT condemn homosexuality, only promiscuity and child harm.
True, i've been reccomanded videos of "trans people tantrums over being misgendered" like, wow, someone's getting in someone else face trying to force something on them because of their bigotry and continue trying to do so after being told to go away, the person trying to defend themselves are definitively "throwing a tantrum" conservatists thinking they can mock people for "throwing tantrums" when they literally did way worse because of budlight
Some liberals have historically fallen for "respectability/civility politics," sadly---though, I think a lot of liberals have fortunately wised up since Trump. It absolutely enrages me when a person attempts to hide behind politeness, civility, or "uwu respect" while espousing or doing things that are hurtful and disrespectful.
Tbh I'm kinda torn between "Of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most." and "Homophobe inserting themself into a twisted version of a Coming Out story for either pity points or to get others to start being homophobic as well." although I think it might just be both.
I see lots of people who are homophobes who say “woke people are dramatic and whiny about their beliefs” then they do stuff like this video after being called a homophobe (rightfully)
I didn't really interpret it as a joke and instead interpreted it as the sort of "title" of the vid he's talking about. It also took a bit for me to realize that it wasn't Jammi talking about himself though.
I thought Jammi had accidentally said something that someone took as homophobic and there was some controversy when I saw the title of the video. What it actually is makes a lot more sense though!
I'm gonna be honest this video is downright dangerous, I watched it when I was much younger I think the year it came out and it genuinely convinced my young brain that the girl was the victim in the situation and that gay people were rude, mean and wrong.. it contributed a lot towards me developing a homophobic mindset for a few years and I'm willing to be honest about that because it's something I regret but also a viewpoint I held as a child and I'd like to think I've matured and moved well past that now, other children are and will be influenced by videos like that, it's very scary
…and that's the entire point of the video. To incite hatred and violence against the LGBT+ community in kids. You know, grooming kids into the hateful antigay ideology. Remember, Folks: With the reichwing, _every Accusation is A Confession_ of what they're doing or want to do.
Thanks for admitting that - I'm so glad that you have developed to a point where you can see that you were taught lies, including by this video, and how harmful this kind of thing can be.
Thank you for defining this, I broke up with a boyfriend of three years decades ago because he declared “I’m not homophobic I just don’t like gay people”
That video is an excellent example of the weaponization of civility. "I'm fine, I have all my rights, you are wrong for disrupting the status quo that serves me just because it doesn't serve you"
One of my favorite quotes is “those who are used to privilege will often see equality as oppression” and that is so true. The people who are used to being treated special feel entitled to that special treatment and feel like something is being taken away when others are simply given the same rights
its a lot of these veiws that genuinely concern me, I live in a conservative state and when a trans girl in the UK was murdered the news covered it. It scares me that peoples response to this coverage was "even if you dont support their ideology murder is wrong" like what?? Unnecessarily bringing up that you don't agree with trans people in response to murder is grotesque and genuinely depressing that people cant see further than "murder is wrong, and trans people don't belong."
I live in a Christian family and used to go to a catholic primary school and wile neither of them were directly anti-LGBTQIA+ (love how long the acronym is getting) there was naturally an element of “you can’t do this”. So when two other kids in my class said that they were lesbians I mentioned “I don’t think you can do that because the bible says so”. Now I’m a Trans Christian in secondary school and it’s an incredibly painful situation to look back on. Moving to secondary school, on the first day, I met a trans boy and after becoming friends with him i began to realise that being LGBTQIA+ was completely ok and I can’t even imagine where I would be right now if I hadn’t met him.
I feel like some people don't understand that support doesn't mean throwing bricks at the cops at stonewall. When people ask if you support LGBT+, they're asking "hey, you don't have anything against LGBT+, right?"
I recently moved into a house near a pretty rural-feeling suburb and I have seen lots of signs against LGBTQIA+ people. It’s a new school and I’m trying to pass as male, but I’m freaking terrified. I hope it all goes well! 🤞 Update: It’s going amazing! Most people assume I’m a dude and I’ve only been asked if I’m a boy or a girl once or twice! My teachers are surprisingly supportive and the only reason people like I might not be a dude is because of my voice (it’s generally lower than most cis females but still high-pitched) and my breasts (even with my binder 😞) but other than that it’s good!
good luck - I hope you have people to support you in this process, and if not, perhaps it's worth checking out the local support groups to see how they can help...
This is giving so mutch "is my frist day at gay high school, hope nobody finds out I'm straight" vibes fr 💀💀edit: OR THE CLOSETED SUPER STRAGHIT MEME TOO OMG- 💀💀💀
I remember watching the original video a LONG time ago. At that time, I had no idea what LGBT even was, so I was mainly just confused when watching it. But now that I DO know, yeah the video's pretty messed up and incredibly manipulative in my opinion. "I mean I TOLERATE gay people. I just don't support them or think they should have rights! Why is everyone so mad at me? I'm the victim!" It tries to paint LGBT people as the "bad guys" when LGBT people the ones who actually get bullied and discriminated against in the real world by homophobes. (I also think it's strange that the character never really elaborates on WHY she "doesn't support the LGBT community.") It's like whoever made the original video took gay people's real-life experiences and flipped it to make the the homophobe the "innocent" one, with the intention of manipulating its audience into turning against LGBT people and thinking we're all "bullies" who need to be punched down. It's absolutely sickening.
The Click would definitely stamp the square “Things that didn’t happen” on his bingo card, for this video. All of her peers already had strong opinions on LGBTQ, but this is the first time she was asked about her stand on it. Sure. Too bad the writers of this fiction didn’t place her as a newly arrived member of the school. More believable.
@@KrimsonKattYTNAUUUUUUUUR WHY WOULD YOU BRING UP GACHA 😭😭😭😭 that gave me traumatic flashbacks to when i was in elementary school & had no style or class 😔💅✨ i’ll never escape it istg it always finds a way to come back & haunt me somehow
I haven't watched it yet, but right off the bat I can say this. Bullying is when someone mistreats you for something you can't control, like being LGBTQIA, disabled, poor, or a different race; or for no reason at all. Being told that your discriminatory behavior is wrong, or being shunned for such behavior, is not bullying; it is the consequences of your own actions.
I kept hoping for a twist like "this is what happened to an individual who came out as LGBTQ, and how people treated them" but it kept getting worse and the twist never came 😭
If someone is being bullied for being a homophobe maybe idk NOT be homophobic how is something like this allowed on youtube this is so cringe videos like this will make young people think like not only THIS is how we are BUT they will think its ok to be homophobic this whole cringey video is a total r/thathappened moment
First of all homophobe or homophobic means that you are afraid of gay people.. this young girl in the story is not afraid of them she just doesn't support them lol. And yes it is okay for her to not support the lgbtq community
All I keep hearing is a hypocrite who wants to be exclusive and maintain privilege, but can't handle when the shoe is on the other foot. Although it is ideal to have majority opinion being an inclusive and safe one. So that's a good thing in this very trite and contrived animation...
we all agree that this story never happened, but it's very interesting how as jamie said it reads like the reversal of a gay kid in school story. it happened almost exactly like this to me, when i was 13 i told a friend in confidence that i was bisexual and he outed me to the whole school. bullying got worse, harassment got worse. the difference is that didn't tell my parents, i only came out to them regarding my sexuality when i was 20, after coming out to them as trans at 18 and 19. i dont think the video was satire, i think it was a malicious attempt at reversing reality and i hope the creator got what was coming to them in the end
One might call it "cargo-cult victimhood". They imitate all the superficial parts of being a victimised by society for a harmless difference, but the substance is wrong, so the supply-craft of left-wing sympathy never arrive.
This animation is why we need LGBTI+ education in *all* schools at *all* levels. I think it's a deliberate reframing of LGBTI+ kid's experiences of homophobic / biphobic / transphobic bullying to create false equivalency. Very telling how they talk about having different "preferences", as that's what a lot of homo/bi/transphobics believe it to be.
@@KrimsonKattYT Much like young children are taught how babies are made waaaay before 4th grade, there are ways to talk about the LGBTQ community that is completely appropriate to younger children. Have you never talked to a 3, 4 or 5-year-old? They understand plenty of complicated concepts, and they are curious by nature. Kids in my circle (kids of friends or family) have all understood since they were pretty young that some kids have a mommy and daddy, but others have 2 daddies or 2 mommies who love each other very much. It's completely age appropriate to talk about different family structures and how people can love different people. The only people who think such talk is not appropriate are usually very intolerant of differences and bigoted.
@@KrimsonKattYT You do know most kids are able to grasp the concept of gender at around 3? Also kids know what couples are, they see their parents and their friends parents every day, so they can and do understand if you tell them two men love each other or two women. LGBT topics are not inherently sexual and they should be taught to kids.
“Oh being a homophobe isn’t my choice!” Yes it definitely is, if you care enough you’ll try to educate yourself, not spread hate and misinformation about people who are just like you, just with different romantic preferences
@@sylbez being gay is an identity, being an homophobe is a belief, beliefs can he changed easily, identities can’t. There are many people who if they had the choice they wouldn’t be gay, being gay is tough especially when no one accepts you. So no it’s not the same, I’m saying that people who prefer to believe in hate are choosing to do so.
@@sylbez being gay is an identity, being homophobic is a belief, beliefs can be changed very easily. So no they are not the same, being gay harms only yourself, you are hated by people because you are different, being homophobe harms others because you just can’t accept they are different.
I mean I did ask (sort of) one of my old friend's what they thought of being queer and she replied with homophobia and I didn't get in touch with her since (closely anyways). I'm also autistic and extremely direct so that could be why I asked in such a manner
when i was in high school, being gay was probably the worst thing you could ever do. one time we tried starting a gay-straight alliance club, but was forced to shut it down bc parents were pulling their children out of school to homeschool them so that they wouldnt have to go to school with wokeness ig
The way i felt watching the video alongside your commentary was, to quote myself: “Oh my god… the f***ing irony.” Just reverse the roles and it’ll be realistic.
Wild how the main character says the other kids didn’t listen to her reasons. Okay, but what are those reasons?! It’s weird that the video doesn’t go into it at all, like how she came to these conclusions, seemingly independent of her parents.
Her response to the initial questions reminds me of the Death Note memes "Hey, Light, have you heard of the lgbt?" "Yeah?" "So, do you support them?" *music kicks in Lights inner monologue: "Another question to test if I'm Kira...."
The little kid/baby voice used by the main character throughout, especially when whining about how classmates want nothing to do with her homophobic butt is certainly...something.
When this video came out I was probably in middle school. It confused me to say the least. As a still questioning queer preteen trying to figure out where I fit in, this channel made me feel uncomfortable when they made the ‘I was bullied for being my homophobic’ video. I am Demisexual btw. Anytime I see the video or see someone react to it I just get more frustrated at the people who made it. I hate the fake story channels that only exist to piggyback on the talented story time creators. If your getting hate for hating a group of people, then you aren’t the victim!
@@Sireaquired No. Bullying is always wrong, full stop. Even if it wasn't, it's wildly ineffective. Conservatism correlates with anxiety. Bullying worsens anxiety. Hatred doesn't stop hatred. It wasn't angry, militant people who helped deprogram me. It was the ones who talked to me like a person, realizing that people are complicated. Sometimes we come from brainwashing rather than a healthy place of choosing our own beliefs. I would never have discovered my CPTSD without them.
I've never cared for how the dialoge falls in this "skit" it always seems to me like an adult trying to write a childs encounter but uses way to many 'big' words or words in general children wouldn't use. I'm going to say it was someone (an adult and possible evangelical christian) who basterdized a coming out story just to push their crap. The way it gets SOO close to the point but the point flies over the individuals head.
It's not just the words but how they are phrased and how it's clearly a very unnatural way to speak. Even if it were coming from an adult in the story. I started having my reading and vocab at a college level by the end of 4th grade. There is still a BIG difference to how and to the way in which I speak now as a 32 yr old adult vs as a child. I also had a friend in school that reached a college level before 3rd grade and again, there is a difference between how she speaks now as a 32 yr old adult and back when we were kids, even in junior high/HS. And she wa she honors everything, Captain of the debate team type. So its not as if speaking in an adult manner as a teen was foreign to her either.
@@Insertia_Nameia Absolutely! It's a 'fundy baby' voice, used deliberately, which is why it sounds like an adult woman pretending to be a powerless little girl, hence the mismatch between the vocabulary and the delivery...
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I feel like her parents are the type of people to say no adult fun time before marriage but also hate on aro/ace people.
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Thanks for posting! What a video though, holy wow. You really have a an amazing talent with analyzing such a video, and putting these intricate things into perspective ! You do this so respectfully and your intentions are beautiful. Rare these days. You’re always educating, cannot thank you enough ❤Much respect & love!!
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Does not supporting an idea mean intolerance towards it? For me support means active engagement, not just tolerance. Can't someone simply tolerate something without supporting it?
@@AstralTraveler But being born lgbt isn't "an idea", it is an innate part of who a person is and can not change. Just lgbt how dyslexic people are born dyslexic and asian people are born asian, lgbt people are born lgbt and deserve equal rights.
"A gay person told me about being outed as gay and outcast from their community, how can we make that about us?" - the creators of this story
Exactly!
yes! they love appropriating these things. they can't stand not having the narrative, etc focus on them.
😂
@@kadenoneill7227 Well, -bullies- abusers _are_ often narcissists…
@@John_Weiss Yep.
Narcissists: Love me! Know that you're doing the right thing when people -criticise your ideas- persecute and scoff you!
Followers: You were so right! People keep trying to force us to adopt their views!
It still amazes me that even now that therapists treat ex-theists for their problems with the abuses that are intrinsic and inherent to theistic faith people still don't acknowledge or even realise that faith based religions are narcissistic abuse. Always, because they have to be. They claim you're sick and broken and sell you the "cure", that does absolutely nothing but keep you sick and craving for comfort that you could easily get from just living in a secular society and acknowledging our social nature and tendency to help each other, even strangers, or actually in many cases we'd more easily help a stranger becuase with them we at least don't know how -bigtoed- (LMAO over that typo 🤣) bigoted they are (yet). **hides toes** 🤣 Nah, here they are - they're huge, and I'm still good people :)
its giving "middle aged guy got called out for being a piece of shit & wrote high school AU fanfic about it"
Omg yes, that’s totally it! I finally realized what happened.
I love the fanfic rethoric 😭😭😭
yep
Honestly, probably what happened. 40 year old guy from Alabama got called homophobic, wrote a genderswap high school AU fic and then payed some kid to read it.
Just to make sure that everyone understands: joke
That is exactly the vibe I got from this! (Though it might have just as easily been a middle aged Karen.) I came here to the comments to see if anyone else thought the same.
Fun fact: my friend asked me if I support lgbt+, I said yes, as I am apart of it, she never saw me the same again.
sorry to hear that
Twinsssssss
This is a universal experience for lgbtq people. There is always that one "friend".
Thats just sad, the school i go to is a school where being homophobic and transphobic is considered the norm, every friend I have said they don’t like the lgbtq+ community, I think I managed to convince my best friend otherwise over a long time but it feels like if I said that I support the LGBTQ+ community to some of my friends what happened to you might happen to me, that they won’t even be able to look at me the same way as minorities are the laughing stock of many in our year group. So called "edgy humor” to hide bigoted viewpoints.
The optimist in me hopes that the end of this story is "...because after that she saw me as more than a friend and now we are happily together," but somehow I have the feeling that's not it. 😥
When I was in middle school I had a friend say I was ‘bullying her for being Christian’ when I asked that she not call me a slur
god the nerve of some people.. Hope you have a good day tho :)
Omg- im not a Christian but isn’t that like- a sin!?
what?
@1_4M_S1LLYY As a Christian- YES😭
@1_4M_S1LLYYyes you must love your neighbor
"did i do something wrong for saying that i dont support my best friend and implying hate her identity??"
yes, yes you did.
If she even realized that was the case, she would have probably been more accepting and wouldn't think this is some kind of completely hypothetical woke political issue
@ard45387 Honestly, if this story is real, the narrator sounds like she completely lacks empathy for others, especially for those who have experiences that differ from her own (you can also tell that she highly exaggerated certain points of the story pertaining to how she was treated to gain sympathy); her viewpoint sounds very immature and narcissistic, which would explain why she victimizes herself rather than trying to gain some self awareness to understand her affect on other people and why they might be upset with her. Unfortunately, however, unless she was able to mature and come outside of herself, her mindset is unlikely to change.
@@lynster6034 i think the whole story is fake lol- like this sounds like a gacha 2018 movie titled: "hated child becomes homophobic and is bullied GLMM"
This whole thing has me speechless. It feels like a parody or something… how is this real?!!
@@arsonzartzit best be fake lol 😅 PLEASE LET IT BE FAKE
I had a old friend who cut ties with me after he found out I was gay and now he acts like the victim 🤦
They always do
SAME HERE!!! He is so fucking annoying and he keeps trying to turn me into a cishet Christian and acts like a victim when I refuse.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you have new, accepting friends to see you through
@@Galaxie_Shipbuilding so sorry that happened hope things get better for you
bigots are very self absorbed people
You can't convince me that the VA wasn't actively trying to make this girl sound as whiny and annoying as possible.
Do you think she sounds annoying on purpose as a silent act of rebellion? Got cast on fiverr and tried to sabotage the project while still getting that bag? Sounds rad actually
@@anzaia2164 I certainly hope so.
@@anzaia2164 interesting theory, but I agree with the theory from another comment, this is 'fundy baby' voice, a specific submissive voice that fundamentalist christians teach their girls and women so they can never sound threatening to men. It can be taught - for example the weird republican response to the state of the union address used a formerly assertively speaking senior woman politician from their ranks and had her sit in a kitchen wearing housewife clothes and talking in this voice (which fortunately backfired on them as it was widely reported on and parodied in the media, although those fundamentalist submissive wives may have loved it!). So my vote goes for a deliberate choice by the producer/director and an adult voice actor specifically using this vocal style.
@@rachelsnee8926 Yea, I agree. But this one is more fun as a headcanon, haha
I associate that voice with TH-cam adverts for anime computer games with very-young-looking anime women as characters. The TH-cam ad algorithm really doesn't know what to do with me. :-)
The whole school being allies is the most unrealistic thing about this whole thing
Not everywhere! (see my other answers for examples from the UK) And the fact that was what they portrayed in the video shows that the makers know perfectly well that things are changing, the majority of the population supports queer people and that their views are a tiny minority.
@@rachelsnee8926 Shit, guess im just unlucky, glad to see other people being happy though!
Is that a remors hand from fran bow??
@@aybek6833 how the fuck did you know
Sadly this is true
Bigotry isn't a political opinion. It's an attack on other peoples' dignity and rights.
Literally this tho
It is an opinion in a sense, it's just an objectively dogshit opinion.
@tylerbailey9329 its ignorance and laziness of ppl that would rather not take the time to educate themselves.
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus probs their actual thought bubbles
Agreed
The whole "I'm just an innocent widdle girl uwu" voice makes me want to rip out my hair
Seriously. I naturally have a soft voice but this is straight up a baby uwu affected voice. It's clear that isn't their normal voice.
Her, mostly likely: 🥹🥹🥹🥹
The worst possible artifice of white girls
It’s such a punchable voice lol
Agreed!
Intolerance towards a group of people is NOT an opinion: it's discrimination.
It's both. Not all opinions are acceptable.
@rosiefay7283 maybe, but being queer is not an "opinion".
"my friends left me because I am racist, but my parents said that is just my opinion"
Does not supporting an idea mean intolerance towards it? For me support means active engagement, not just tolerance. Can't someone simply tolerate something without supporting it?
@@AstralTraveler If someone says "I don't support the LGBTQ+ community", that does not mean "I am not currently actively working/donating in favor of LGBTQ+-related causes", it means "I think LGBTQ+ people deserve fewer rights than what they have/want."
What kind of school did that girl go to where EVERYONE is pro-lgbtq+ and how do I get there?
Yeah, this probably didnt happen.
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Seriously! Where is this exclusive, but inclusive school located? I was going to make a joke about bmneeding to get a letter from an owl to get in-- but then I saw the irony there!
Where does she live, the Boiling Isles?
@@FectoForgoGaming I wish I lived in the Boiling Isles lol
I live in California, one of the most progressive states in America. I also go to a really accepting public school. I still get called slurs and faced discrimination for being queer and trans by other students and teachers (I also get some dirty looks cause I've been vocal about my identity ._.)
“I don’t like cheese” is an opinion. “I don’t support people who like cheese” is an attitude. An opinion on your own preferences is harmless. An attitude on the preferences of others absolutely can be harmful.
It’s absolutely fine to not like cheese
It’s bigotry to pass laws saying anyone who likes cheese can’t get married, adopt children, receive healthcare, can get evicted for liking cheese, can legally be fired for liking cheese, and cannot appear in media because they might “influence children” to start liking cheese.
@@mc-rn8rook but i'm just saying this whole "publicly execute someone for liking cheese" MIGHT have some weight behind it
/j
you shouldn't send death threats to people who like cheese also please don't dehumanize them it's just chees
@@tournesol99 support=\= respect, if you don't support lgbt community it doesn't mean you hate them you just respect them
@@HYDROCARBON_XD i can understand how you'd see it that way but many people don't. "supporting the community" for many people is as simple as saying or believing "I accept you." not that you're expected to donate all your life savings and maybe a couple kidneys to their cause
i think if you told someone "I don't *support* you, but I respect you." they'd take it more as "Well I don't really think you should be allowed to be this way and I do not support that, but I respect you for trying." which wouldn't come across nicely for many even if you personally believe it's alright
I can't empathize with being bullied for being a homophobe, but I was bullied by homophobes as a young man. The bullying I experienced didn't involve dirty looks so much as four young, slur-taunting punks accosting me to take turns kicking me in the head and ribs for having seen me come from a gay disco
I'm so sorry to hear that - but good for you for surviving it!
i hope you are ok now!
thanks for the well wishes; the above happened during the disco era and I've lived a full life since.
Dang, I'm sorry, I hope you healed up okay.
I grew up in San Francisco in the late 90s and early 2000s so I didn't see much homophobia.
But I got a ton of racism. When I had just turned 18 in 2009, I was jumped and stomped on just like you by six, young Black men calling me Asian slurs. I was in a nice neighborhood too. I was sitting on a bench waiting for the MUNI L train. They just saw that I was Asian, asked me what time it was, and then threw a heavy object at my head and then rat packed me while I was dazed from the object. They danced on my head and torso. They only stopped because the MUNI pulled up.
I hope you don't hate straight people because of your experience. I know it's hard to get over being victim to a hate crime.
It was harder for me because I'm not the first person in my family to experience a hate crime like this. It happens all the time in the Bay Area to Asian people by Black men.
Omg that’s crazy im so sorry
The weirdest part? They never actually give any reason for being unsupportive.
That very fact contradicts the conclusion of the story too! Especially considering they supposedly knew why they didn't support at the time of the story. (see 16:25)
Because there's none
I think the implication as that any good child would simply refuse if they weren't feeling preassured or chose to stand up for themselves.
When child adopts convictions you agree with, it's because they're sensible. When they adopt ideas you don't agree with, they must necessarily have been taken advantage of.
In either case, LGBTQ+ matters are framed as something inauthetntic and imposed because they're "political."
I usually think it's because they were told they can't be LGBTQ+, so no one else can be. Also, a lot of people believe these phobes are actually queer but can't be that. If that makes sense.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 Well put. I wish you were wrong about it all.
But yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head, especially when saying it's assumed sensible to agree with their views. They're the kind of people who just waffle assertions and assume that everyone agrees that it's universally true and self evident. And it's usually neither. And even if it's correct and self evident, you still have to explain what you mean by it in the context you said it in.
For example: rain will fall equally on the virtuous and the wicked.
Okay, sure, and then what? It's not wrong, but wth? And to paint a picture of how wildly different this same sentence can be in different scenarios, imagine that I said that when the video was about Hunter Biden's and Trump's felony convictions. Then the rain would stand for justice. Which would actually make more sense than when Buddha said it and implied that the rain is bad, which is really dumb.
But now imagine I said it in response to an execution for blasphemy. What would/could it imply then?
I mean, even platitudes presented in kindness can be deadly weapons in the hands of the ignorant and zealous.
I commented earlier that we don't owe anyone an explanation. I added that I meant that in the context of who we are and who we love. We don't have to explain why we are who we are or why we love who we love, and people should stop expecting people to do that and then accuse people of being unreasonable when they express anger over such expectations. The expectation justifies anger and it's okay to express emotions.
But I also think that everyone who speaks can be demanded to explain their words. It's called accountability. Words are actions, not identities. Arguably loving is a collection of actions and I exempt that from requiring explanation. But yeah, for the individual actions done out of love we can demand explanations, but those _are_ usually self evident and hopefully a pattern. Actions that are claimed to be out of love that are incidental are red flags.
People should stop barking at the moon to just make a noise while pretending to say anything, while implying a whole lot that is never said. And we should tell people to stfu or explain what they mean, and dogs as well by the way 🤣WTF is up with taht? "MOON! MOON! MOON!" It's a hot air balloon, just like your head, and water is wet, AND THEN F'ING WHAT?
"I just don't agree with LGBT people" is literally like saying that you don't agree with people having green eyes. Like, the heck do you want us to do about it?
NOT AT ALL THE SAME THING
@@johanpersson7585 How are they not the same thing? Both are things you have no control over...
@@johanpersson7585 How are they not the same?
@@johanpersson7585The only difference is you can hide that you're gay more easily than you can hide green eyes, but that's really it. Otherwise it's similar. Imagine sending someone to conversion therapy for having green eyes. Sounds dumb af, and it is the same for lgbt+ people because conversion therapy has literally never worked and makes mental health outcomes worse
Putting eye contacts in, like pretending to be straight lol
The friend was totally trying to come out to her
100%
Oh yeah, definitely. 100%
Totally 100%
Yes
Definitely
The fact they had a child voice this, but there's no way this happened in a school at that age range. Middle or high school, maybe, but even the conversation feels fake and it reeks of "I'm the victim for being a bigot".
Someone else said it and it sounds right, the writer took a story of a queer person coming out to a friend, who went and told the whole school. And then changed the roles. If you watch it with the idea that the protagonist is the LGBTQ person it makes a lot more sense.
@@elaexplorer yeah, but the language used also tells me it wasn't at the age group it happened in. Maybe I'm wrong, but the political talk and discussing the LGBT+ community in general with strong views just doesn't seem like it'd happen in an elementary school. Although, I haven't been to one in many years, so I can't say. Most kids I've seen just talk about video games, TH-cam, or some other interests, but I've never seen young kids talking about this kind of stuff before.
I guess they also never said it was an elementary school, but the voice seems like they're trying to make it look like it happened at a very young age. You're probably right about it being a story with the roles reversed though, it makes a ton of sense.
@@MrFoxtheSpyoh itbwaa clearly written by an adult that used a fake little girl voice. I doubt an actual child voiced this. Even if the originally story wasn't, they way its phrased in this was clearly done by an adult. Even as a kid that had college level vocab and reading levels by the end of 4th grade, there is a BIG difference between how and the way in which I speak now vs as an actual child. It is not at all natural sounding for a kid. Unless we're maybe talking like 17, maybe 16. But only because they're trying to directly parrot how their parents speak and how they choose to phrase things.
@@Insertia_Nameia exactly!
It's likely not a child reading this. It could easily be done by a grown woman, which makes it far more likely, that an adult has done this.
With that said, it's all BS.
The way they lean into the phrase "personal preferences" is so rude and disrespectful. We don't have a choice!
Precisely 😤
Was looking for who might’ve clocked that too 🙏🏼
Like, if i had to chose, id rather be a cis person than fluid. People don't even Belive i exist :')
True
You're 100% right! When someone says that being LGBTQ+ is a choice and you ask them when did they decide to be straight, they say that they never decided it, it was always like that. If they feel kids are bring groomed to be LGBTQ+ and when they are asked who groomed them to be straight, they say they weren't groomed. They don't see the hypocrisy of their own words and thought process. For many of those people, nothing we say nor any facts we share will get them to change their minds.
I've recently just cut ties with someone who I thought was a friend because I found out he is transphobic. He was going on and one with his disgusting comments about trans people. I'm a cis straight woman and I was wearing an LGBTQ+ necklace! I was in the backseat of the car and he was in the front. I know he saw my necklace earlier that day but he might have forgotten I was wearing it as he wasn't looking at me.
For the LGBTQ community who we like is like enjoying apples and oranges. You can't help that you like apples and oranges. You just do.
I'm in the US. My trans kid just asked me and my partner (both trans) "when Trump gets elected again will we be able to be a family still?" That's the difference. Homophobic parents don't have to look their child in the eye and say "we'll always be a family even if some of us have to go to another country and some of us can't follow". No sympathy.
It must be truly terrifying - I'm in the UK, but I'm rooting for the Democrats to restore some sense to your country...
As a Canadian I am scared that this is what our country will look like in 2026
Please, move out from the US. It's literally dangerous for you and your family to be there
@@ghostyc04 dude i get that you think that they should just move but it doesnt work like that
@@ghostyc04 I wish it was that simple.
What irritates me the most is how falsetto they make the narrator's voice, in order to make her sound like an innocent and unsuspecting child being persecuted for her beliefs. I've seen this attitude most often from fundamentalist religious homophobes, so it doesn't surprise me she's playing the victim. Assuming any of this actually happened.
You mean the 'fundie baby voice'? I've heard of this only relatively recently. To explain to anyone else reading, it's a (somewhat subconscious) affect women and girls within that lifestyle do to make themselves seem more acquiescent and meek therefore acceptable to the men in control of their lives.
Those people are literally the first to indoctrinate and harm (wether physically, mentally...) childs and literal newborns, and yet they're still tryna play the card of "look they're indoctrinating our childs against their will"
@@joycelinlgbtq That makes the men in control of their lives look like p3d0s. Like, *_why else_* would those men find acting like a little girl attractive in _any way?_
"Every Accusation is A Confession," with the Christian-Taliban, isn't it?
@@joycelinlgbtq
This was a calculated choice. She really hams up the effect at certain points, where she starts whimpering as if she will cry, she is in full control and you can hear it if you know how to do a voice like this.
This was an adult voice actress, doing a baby voice to portray a child character, reading a script written by someone else. These videos aren't made by a teen in their bedroom, but by a production company. Nothing inherently wrong with that concept, except when they lie and pretend it's a real story to push their sob story propaganda.
(Re-reading this, and I sounded a little harsh, so I just thought to add: I'm not attacking your point, I agree that what you describe is a thing, and can happen subconsciously. I just think it's an active effort in this example.)
There is nothing wrong with following our religion as long as we don't insult eachother. Sexuality is something no one can control but there is also nothing wrong with following you religion and being respectful towards queer people and not insulting them. Straight or not, we're all humans and we're all equal.
Came out to a friend yesterday as non binary! I babysit for her, and she's religious, so I was worried she'd cut ties, or agree to use my preferred pronouns, but not in front of the kids. Instead, she was really positive about it, and said that it was really great for her kids to grow up knowing a trans person, and having that normalised. Thought I'd share that bit of positivity! 😊
I'm so happy for you, that's wonderful!
Yoooo, that's so awesome, congratulations! Welcome, fellow enby! 🎊 🎉
That is awesome, reading stuff like this really brightens my day. :)
I hope you have a great time with those kids, and (as a family friend and babysitter) help shape them into wonderful humans like you and your friend seem to be.
NONBINARIES RISE UP
@@yourlocalpumpkin9832I prefer lying down can I just raise my arm instead?
I had a homie who said they don’t support, and then followed it up with ‘but that’s because I need every dollar I can get’ and it turns out he thought support was exclusively 1) voting for LGBT+ supportive candidates (we were in high school marching band) and 2) donations to charities like the Trevor Project. They did actually support btw
The wording of "supporting" is problematic in varied interpretation. I also interpreted "support" to mean actively doing stuff, like donating or voting, like what you said. So, that makes "not supporting" include anything from indifference to hate. I'm personally indifferent to most things like that, since they don't affect me; well, not this specifically, since I'm both aro/ace & enby, but in general.
That would probably be why a simple answer like "no" to "Do you support LGBT+?" wouldn't immediately make me think of defriending the person. I'd interpret that as indifference, provided that there's no elaboration/thauts about it. If there was elaboration that revealed that "no" to mean it in a hateful way, then there'd be aversion.
Aw, bless them. They a little confused but they got the spirit
@@Lvmindere The "interpret 'support' to mean actively doing stuff" is HEAVILY context-dependent to be interpreted. The voice suggests an elementary school or middle-school student telling the story, but even if it were a high-school student they would generally not have financial independence and thus limiting 'support' to only financial contributions is...excessively narrow an interpretation.
Honestly that guy sounds pretty based. Just automatically assuming that "supporting" a group means materially acting on their behalf rather than just not being an obstacle for them
I'm recycling my reply to a different comment b/c it's applicable here as well and took me a long-ass time to write, as noted in the 2nd paragraph:
"As a stand-alone verb, asking "Do you support ___________?" assumes whomever is being asked knows it's not meant to be taken literally, as in giving assistance by taking part in activism, outreach, fundraising, donations, etc. It would be disingenuous to think most people don't know exactly what is being asked, but the possibility exists for someone to misinterpret and give the wrong impression unintentionally. Not very likely, but possible.
For context, I have mild OCD that manifests in written communication - being misunderstood is a major phobia and source of anxiety. I have to eliminate ambiguity & find the perfect words to express myself clearly and accurately, so I spend a lot of time re-reading and revising, looking up synonyms to find a better-fitting word, before posting anything online, and I still end up making edits. This reply will take at least an hour. I will also add that I am queer (pansexual & gender non-conforming).
All this is to say that it wouldn't hurt to reframe the question, i.e., "Does someone's sexual orientation or gender identity affect how you feel about them?", or to add more specificity, i.e., "Do you support equal rights for members of the LGBT+ community?" or to ask an open-ended question, i.e., "How do you feel about legislation that prohibits LGBT+ people from adopting or fostering children?". I feel these types of questions would be more conducive to opening up a discussion as well. Take the first question - someone who has misconceptions or is completely unaware of what the terms "sexual orientation" or "gender identity" mean will gain a better understanding, which is never a bad thing."
I'd love to hear others' thoughts!
I had a friend once that came out to me as gay. Needless to say we couldn't remain friends after he told me; he's a great boyfriend though.
Had me at the first half 😭
Lmao congratulations xD
HEHEHE xD
Made me delete a paragraph there
I was about to crash out
THERE WAS A HOMOPHOBIC AD PLAYING BEFORE THIS 😭😭
THATS A THING ?!
Adblocker is necessary for browsing the internet at this point. Find other ways to support creators you like, preferable one that doesn't give anything to google.
TF is a homophobic ad
Omg was it that one ad where the kid was upset for getting in trouble for wearing a shirt that was super homophobic? ?
Block and report the ad. You have to keep it up, otherwise they'll just keep doing it.
Could you imagine if someone replied "no" to "Hey, do you support [insort minority race here] people?" A vast majority of people would rightfully flame the person who expressed opposition to such group of people.
Makes it all the sadder how many people belonging to ethnic/national/racial minorities can't seem to get it...
The thing is, homophobes do the exact same shit with race. Everyone I've ever heard proclaim to not be a homophobe/transphobe/racist was spewing bigoted shit left and right between their reassurance that they are, in fact, not a bigot. It's hilarious that they expect me to believe that when they treat other human beings they don't even know as an aesthetic choice they get to approve or disapprove of.
@@Gorehoundula Yeah. Honestly, if anyone started a sentence with “I’m not racist/homophobic/transphobic” I would stop them right there and explain to them that having to start a sentence with that proves that what they’re about to say IS racist/homophobic/transphobic, and them saying it means that by proxy, so are they. Whether or not that would actually work, I have no clue.
The thing i don't understand is why doesn't minorities and persecuted communities go hand-in-hand? only time i've seen that was with furries who are often friends with LGBT and are also attacked by bigots (we have common enemies). seeing (for exemple) women or black people attack LGBT for no reason is just.... FRIENDLY FIRE, FRIENDLY FIRE !
Oh also i've met gender non comforming people who hate lgbt. at this point it's not even friendly fire, it's straight up self-sabotaging
@@KarmicID Sadly, I think I've seen the empathy *fail* to bridge across from one axis of marginalization to another more often than not. You would think that people who have experienced one type of bigotry would "know better" than to indulge in other flavors of bigotry, but you would often be disappointed by the way it actually plays out. It should work that way, we all *should* support one another... but people gonna people. It doesn't make sense, but humans often don't.
I lost a friend last night.
Last year her oldest daughter reposted a Facebook link leading to Matt Walsh. There are two American personalities named Matt Walsh. The one in question is an anti-trans commentator. When I saw her link, I silently noped out of that friendship.
Last night, I saw her posts on Facebook and decided to ask how she'd been, and I truthfully told her I'm scared about the election. And from there it very-fast devolved into an argument about trans people. She called me sick and mentally ill.
She had been there for me in 2012 at the griup home i was living at when i was 16. I'd spent nights at her house, hunted on her land with her daughters, given them Christmas gifts. It was like i never knew her, like she was a completely different person.
I'm so scared that I'll never be able to express myself as a woman. I don't like this body and i dont wnat to live like this forever.
I'm so sorry:( sometimes we just have to let go. It's less painful that way. I had to so somthing similar with my own mother. And it was not easy, but If they are hurting you so deeply and hate a fundamental part of you, let them go. Life might get easier from there.
I hope everything works out for you 🫶
They weren't a true friend if they could turn on you like that. You are valid and I hope there will be a day in the future that you can live safely and comfortably as your true self. Hang in there.
who is the second matt
@@littlepleeth9423- Matt Walsh the comedy actor. As far as I know he's cool.
My group of friend ALL played the victim when I LITERALLY GOT KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL for being gay💀💀
WHAT
WHATTTT
Im sorry but WHAT
I remember when TH-camrs like StrangeÆons first reacted to this a couple years back. Her take that the friend may have had a crush on her is so relatable. Nobody just pops that question without a reason, and this would be such a soul crushing reaction.
i mean if this story was to be true it could just be that she wanted to come out to her
straaaaaaeenge
Do you know the name of the title?
I found it. It's under Roasting this anime child.
That's where I remember this from! I knew I saw this definitely-not-fake story before, but couldn't remember where
Like are we really supposed to believe that the whole school knew the main character was homophobic and they were all that supportive of queer people?
Especially when school kids use racism and homophobia as jokes. :/ (the amount of white kids at my high school using the N word was concerning)
For real. My high school had a gay kid who was running for class council whose last name was Gray. You can guess what happened to all the posters, yeah, at best the r got crossed out, at worst slurs, calls for violence, and other unpleasantries. And when he tried to get help "the cameras never saw who did it". Including two posters directly under cameras. Bullshit.
I don't know enough about the average US school in 2024, but there are absolutely schools like that all over the world, especially in places with more progressive governments like Europe (especially the Scandinavian countries). Here in the UK, I have siblings who are teachers and although there is still misogyny and homophobia amongst the kids, it is very clear it is not to be tolerated and anyone doing it would experience negative consequences, their schools policies are supportive of LGBTQ+ students, including respecting pronouns, inclusive school uniform rules etc. When the first trans kid came out at the school where my brother was vice-principle, his wife (also a teacher at the school) remarked 'the kids were all lovely about it'. I also know a trans guy who works with trans youth, and has helped schools to support their first 'out' trans student, including working with all the teachers, who each showed a video the student had made and facilitated a class discussion on it, and supporting the student in presenting to an assembly of the whole school. Change is possible, and there are plenty of great examples out there of how this can be different...
I'd also say that the premise of this video is that the homophobic kid was then shunned by the whole school, which would imply that the other students were all supportive, and the makers know this, and know they are in a tiny minority.
Yeah, and that the girl somehow notified everyone in the school overnight?
Being gay, lesbian, trans, etc.: An intrinsic and involuntary identity that is typically targeted by laws meant to marginalize us. LGBT+ is not an opinion or ideology.
Being a homophobe: A choice to be bigoted. This is an opinion and an ideology.
There is a HUGE difference and yes, you can have a different opinion about us queer folks. But you're not exempt from the consequences of having that opinion. You can't control how people feel about you when you make the choice to actively hurt them.
This is very true, but I want to push back on the "homophobia is a choice" thing--it's only a choice for a psychologically stable adult who was not brainwashed, and you'll find few of those in America who are homophobic. We can choose to *change* the beliefs we were raised with, but we don't necessarily choose to have them in the first place. A homophobe from a homophobic environment is different from a homophobe who comes out of a supportive LGBT+ environment, but the latter may have severe mental health issues.
Conservatism has a strong correlation with anxiety. I had three anxiety disorders. Diagnosis and treatment helped me dramatically with deprogramming myself.
That last line is gold and so real
They are entitled to an opinion, and queer people are entitled to have opinion about that opinion.
@@WynneL I think that anything with "phobia" is an irrational fear. Anything that causes an irrational fear is not healthy at all. I have agoraphobia. I have an irrational fear of stepping outside of the house. But this is not healthy. I can't do anything for myself, I live my life with anxiety, I don't get a healthy amount of sun. I've missed out on things in life. It needs therapy. It's the same with an irrational fear of homosexuality. I think it's strange to be so bothered by another person's existence. It warrants therapy for a lot of people. What's worse is when society supports, promotes, and causes that phobia.
Being a homophobe isn't an opinion nor an ideology
It's just people externalizing their need to harm others and choosing the LGBT community to be the punching bags (they act surprised when we defend ourselves)
"Love the sinner hate the sin" is bullshit. You can't hate an integral part of who someone is while still loving that person.
Religious extremists will never understand that the real sins are hating and killing people who are different from them.
Eh, “Love the sinner, hate the sin” isn’t applied to this case. That’s a reaaally bad take. It means you can love someone without having to love their problem (ex: a mother caring for their son who’s suffering from addiction). The quote’s not that bad,,
@@ymirfritz4757 "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is the standard Christian defense of their homophobic bullshit, it's absolutely the take here. Doesn't matter if you think it's misapplied, they don't. They view homosexuality as a "problem" and claim they can hate that without hating the person.
@@ymirfritz4757A ton of Christians use this phrase specifically in regards to LGBT+ people. I used to use it before I wised up. It is a problem that can be fixed or a bad habit that can be changed, it's one thing, but no one wants to be seen as just a sinner, as unclean, thinking that others cringe because of who they love. Religious people also are okay with denying LGBT+ people the same rights as straight cis people solely because of the genders of the people involved. Gay men still have restrictions on when they can donate blood, same-sex partners are often denied rights to be with their partner in places where their marriage is not recognized as legitimate, and conversion therapy is still being practiced on young people despite the fact that it doesn't work (with few exceptions) and isn't necessary.
People's definition of "sin" varies, and some prefer to follow what they believe is morally and ethically right instead of having a book tell them what to do. I have no problem with someone hating a problem that actively harms that person and those around them, but being queer in itself does not harm anyone.
@@Amethystar ohh I see, in this case yeah i see ur point 👍
Often when I hear stuff like “I don’t support the gay community but I still respect gay people”, I would like those people who say this to replace the word “gay” with “straight” and hear how stupid that sounds.
Or black, or disabled. It's the same bigotry no matter what the marginalized community.
I just use the logic against them. Especially works with religious people. Like, I don't agree with your savage and backwards religion, but I'll politely ignore that I'd you're willing to have a civil conversation.
@@genericname2747The irony is they’ll *explode* at that, and use it as evidence of US being bad 🙄
@@DeathnoteBB The hero's plot armor can NEVER be pierced, no matter what.
friend... I have bad news for you about how a whole lot of people feel about us Jews. Poland, ironically, is particularly nasty, though not the only place by far.
Part of this video made me tear up, I recently blocked a friend for being homophobic and I’ve been fighting with myself on if I was in the wrong.. but I’m glad to hear that Jammie was talking about how it’s normal to have a guard when faced with someone who’s being homophobic
Really sorry that happened to you
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. You don't need that kind of energy in your life. I'm so sorry you lost a friend over it though.
Wow. Happy for you for being so mature
I'm currently beating myself over the fact that I don't cut all conversations with my transphobic colleague who refuses to use my name or gender me correctly
@@KrimsonKattYT thanks! It’s my own art of an oc of mine ^^
Yeah, they totally took a story of a queer kiddo from those story time channels, rewrote it a bit with keywords, etc. and then published it. This is so silly. The whole story doesn't understand the difference of the betrayal of a queer kiddo whose friend told the whole school about it, leading to them being ostracised...
No this *was* from a story time channel. It was like the OG viral story time story. I’m pretty sure it’s fake to indoctrinate kids into homophobia
At least at some point, clickfarm channels with stupid, implausible, or meandering stories intended to hook children were apparently popular, so I wouldn't be surprised if some clickfarmer just lazily and cynically decided to take a "coming out" story and flip it to maximize engagement. I don't know if that's better or worse than creating a homophobic video out of malice.
It's not just silly, it's dangerous - it has real world negative consequences!
That video is hilarious because her argument is "I just have a different opinion" but if it were an LGBTQ+ kid it would be "I just have a different identity".
One of those is more hurtful to reject than the other.
'What I think' and 'what I am' are on completely different levels!
I watched this with Mr. Atheist aka Jimmy Snow reacting to it and he brought up a good point.
“What does it mean to not agree with LGBT?” The only way I can see it is not seeing LGBT as a valid way of being and treating queer people as less than human, whether you realize you’re doing that or not.
We don’t get a choice what gender, sexual orientation, romantic attraction or lack there if we have. It’s not like I woke up one day and thought, “hey you know what sounds fun? Being a persecuted minority even more than I already am! I’m going to transition and date someone of the same sex as me!” That has never happened for anyone. I guarantee. It is not a choice and if anyone tells me “I don’t agree with you being queer” and we can’t find any common ground… I am cutting them out of my life. It’s really quite simple as that.
That didn’t happen to me either, and It should’ve been impossible bc of my families views and my age with how everyone says “leave them alone, and they’ll grow out of it” I newly discovered myself as a trans woman, can’t tell my “family” at all, can’t transition, I’m scared to even leave this comment here.
of course ❣️❣️. what kind of friendship can u have with someone that basically says - i don't agree with your existence?
@@BenthewildchildE750 🤍🩷🩵 U ARE NOT ALONE keep looking for safe spaces. I'm trans too. it was scary coming out end i did lose some friends and family. but getting to finally live as yourself is so worth it
@@BenthewildchildE750, lots of love to you ❤
Know that we see you for the wonderful woman you are, even if you can't show her to the world yet.
Be safe, but being happy is not to much to ask for ❤
@@BenthewildchildE750I’m a trans man and I know how you feel, just know that your family controlling who you are won’t be forever, and I’m sure you’ll grow up to be a wonderful woman
The idea that a friend asks that question, which sounds like she's 'testing the waters' to come out, on getting a negative response would then come out to EVERYONE ELSE at school is ridiculous!
I didn't get that she was coming out to the whole school, only that she told her other friends (who presumably then told theirs etc) that this girl was homophobic. I can read it as she (and other friends of hers) suspected that this girl might be homophobic, and she decided to ask her directly (or drew the short straw!). When my daughter was in high school in Vancouver in the 2000's I remember her telling me 'it's not like when you were at school, now it's the homophobes who everyone thinks are weird and no-one wants to hang out with!' - clearly the makers of this film know that!
I found it especially weird that she tells this person, "How can I be friends with someone who doesn't support what I or ALL OF US do" as if the LGBTQ+ community is everyone but this one girl
@@rachelsnee8926 Yeah, but how did all of that happen overnight???
@@EbyTheDragon LMFAO
@@EbyTheDragon "First day at LGBTQ+ school I hope they don't realize I'm a homophobe!!"
@4:41 I did this. Before I came out to my cousin, I asked his opinion on same sex marriage as part of a survey for my government class. This was 2013 or 2014, before it was legal in all 50 states. We come from a super religious family, with his mom being extreme in her views. He said “I support it. I support consenting adults loving each other and joining hands in marriage if they choose.” I came out to him and he was super supportive. Rest of my family… only my grandma was supportive.
was that actually a part of that survey, or did you sneak that in there as a way to ask that question without being too suspucious?
weird how grandmas are often more supportives than their childs. perhaps they're more wise.
@@MinerBat it was the whole survey. We got to pick whatever question we wanted to ask people for the project and that was mine, since at the time same sex marriage was a huge topic. I asked him alongside people in my neighborhood and school. I just used the chance to ask him
> "Got called a homophobe by my best friend in our school :( "
> "Tell us what happened?"
> "My BFF called me a homophobe :( "
> "Oh, but why?"
> "Because I was openly a homophobe :( "
> "While you were in school?"
> "Yes, it was in school :( "
As you said, this entire scenario feels like a queerphobe heard a queer person's negative experience when they came out, and the bigot tried to twist it into their own story instead... and did a horrible job at it lol
This is like something prageru would put out
Yeah. Yeah I can see that
File this under "i made this up to get mad about"
I came down to the comments to see if that was the case because it really does scream PragerU. That whole disingenuous tone to try to normalize something hateful is their stock in trade.
@@nebulan wait what
@@tacobird6709 it's a spot on The Click's bingo card sometimes. It's not a real story. They made it up to get mad about it.
It was the end of the day, and I was waiting for my bus with one of my friends when she began asking me random questions. All of a sudden, though, she asked:
“Hey, have you heard of the LGBT+ community?”
“Yes, I have. Is this the last question?” I replied.
“No, but almost. Are you gay? Like, are you in the LGBT community?”
“Do I give her my honest answer, or should I lie?” I thought. Maybe I should just tell her what I think will make her happy. But what if it’s not the right answer she wants to hear? I mean, she’s my friend. I’m sure it’ll be fine.
After a quick pause, I gave her my reply. “Yes, I’m a lesbian!”
She tried to hide it, but I saw the shock on her face.
She smiled awkwardly, and said, “Oh… okay.”
I had no idea what that meant. I thought of it as nothing more than an awkward and random conversation. We said bye to one another as she walked her way home and I hopped on my bus.
Before I went to bed, my mind kept replaying my friend’s question and why she acted so awkwardly to my answer. Why did she look like she was hiding something, or what if she doesn’t want to be my friend anymore? Am I a bad person for being a lesbian? The biggest thing I couldn’t get off my mind was her awkward smile hiding her true emotions from me. I thought about it the entire night until I fell asleep, hoping it was just a harmless question and she’d forget about it tomorrow.
I walked through the hallway, saying hello to my classmates and friends, and every time I did, they’d brush me off or give me a dirty look. I even had a few people ignore me and whisper something to someone else right in front of me and then walk away. Did I do something wrong? Why are people giving me these mean looks?
Finally, I saw my friend who asked me the question the other day, and nervously said, “Hi.”
She automatically replied, “Get away from me!”
I backed up in shock. We were fine the other day! At least, I thought we were fine.
“What!? What did I do!?”
At this point, everyone had their eyes on us, waiting to see what would happen.
“How dare you be a lesbian!”
“What?! Why did you tell everyone!? I thought you were my friend!”
“How can I be friends with someone who’s gay!?” She replied. “You’re a monster and a d-e! You just don’t fit in with the rest of us anymore!”
At this point, everyone gave me a dirty look and agreed with her. It was like I had committed some kind of sin and didn’t deserve to be around everyone else. In an instant, I was the worst person in the entire school. the only thing I could do was run into the bathroom
I cried so hard, so much, and so loud someone in the other stall heard me and told me to shut up. I felt so ashamed of myself for being gay. I hated myself for not lying and saying I was straight. I wanted to go home so badly, but there was no way I could.
The rest of the day was just as bad, if not worse. People mocked me and called me “d-e”, which made me cry! I tried to tell them I didn’t choose to like girls, but I was still the same person they always knew. I had never felt so alone, so I decided I had to tell my parents what was happening to me at school. But would they yell at me for liking girls? Or worse still, they might hate me.
I entered the kitchen to see both of my parents sitting there. Even though I tried to find the words to tell them I needed to talk, all I could find were tears. Both of them quickly stood up and came to the door where I was standing there to comfort me. My mom asked me what was wrong, and I began to explain. I told them the question my friend asked me the day before and then my answer: that I was a lesbian. To my delight, my mom and dad, they reassured me that it was okay to not be attracted to the opposite gender and to like the same gender; and it was not OK for others to be so rude and disrespectful towards me.
Unfortunately, the kids at my school didn’t see it that way. My old friends would either turn their backs to ignore me, or worse, mutter mean words under their breaths as they passed me in the hallways. Their words would cut through me to my core. I would come home everyday, head straight for my room, and cry.
My parents would ask, “Darling what’s wrong?” But I couldn’t bring myself to tell them how bad things had become.
Over the next few months, my school life was miserable. No one was interested in hearing out my feelings. All they cared about was their own!
Things had become so bad at school that my grades start to slip. I just couldn’t concentrate, and no one wanted to work with me or help me in class. Eventually, the school’s head had noticed something wasn’t right and called my parents in for a meeting. I was nervous, scared even, that my parents would be mad at me for me letting this affect my grades, but after seeing how bad things had become and how unhappy I was, they both agreed that the best thing for me would be to move schools and have a fresh start.
A year has passed since I moved schools and I’ve made great new friends, all with different sexualities and gender identities. I’m still a lesbian, but now, I’m able to express my sexuality freely. I look back on that day my friend asked me about whether I was gay, and I realize now that she was never going to be a good friend, even if I’d lied and told her I was straight. The way my new friends accept different sexualities and gender identities, rather than turning them into a witch-hunt and isolating LGBT people, has made me feel so at home.
I have learned that there will always be people who can’t accept you for who you are, but that is fine. Just because you used to be good friends with someone for years doesn’t mean you have to stay friendly with them if they’re homophobic. You deserve to live your life the way that is the most authentic to you. You don’t need to endure abuse from your peers, and if explaining won’t stop them from bullying you, you can simply cut them out of your life. LGBT kids are bullied way too often, and even though they might look fine on the outside, inside, they could be really hurting.
Fixed 🫶
Thankyou for doing this work - you've nailed it, and this makes it absolutely clear that the supposed 'bullying' the homophobe in video received was nothing compared to the reality of queer kids lives - someone disagreeing with your beliefs/prejudices does not have the huge and lasting emotional and psychological impact that denying your very humanity does.
The original video is like cargo-cult victimhood: they imitate all the superficial parts of being a victim, but it doesn't work the same because the substance isn't there.
Fixed it!
This should be the top comment 🫶
Not supporting gays is not an "opinion" like imagine you ask some dude if he supported women. Can you find a single logical difference? It's the exact same level of absolute tomfoolery.
Holy Toledo, what is this tomfuckery batman?
Bafoonary
‘Absolute tomfoolery’ that’s a great phrase
Literally. Just replace the word "gay" with any other word. "Do you support blind people?" "Do you support black people?" "Do you support swedish people?" Doesnt sound so "agree to disagree" anymore.
No difference, they are both equally neutral positions that express no bigotry.
“I don’t support you but… I love you!” Bwahahaha. My aunt said that to me too-we are no longer in touch.
There's a difference between liking or disliking mint chip ice cream and being a crap person to a marginalized community. We all need equal rights, but we all don't need a certain flavour of ice cream (also mint chip all the way, what's y'all's favourite ice cream?)
Edit: Holy crap I love all your flavour choices they sound delicious :)
THANK YOU
Also, my favorite ice cream is probably Cotton Candy, mint chip is good too though
My favourite ice cream is hazelnut ice cream
I love teaberry icecream. Perfect for hot summer days.
:3
Mine is like a chocolate coma. Any ice cream with soft chocolate chunks is a huge plus
@@alicebthegachaweirdo8378 ooooo that sounds delicious
: ^ | “Everyone's mad at me for something I said.”
: O “Have you considered apologizing?”
: ^ |
>: ^ (
Also, have you considered asking them why they responded with anger to what you said? Do you understand why your comment is received as dismissive at best and hateful at worst? In the whole length of this video there was no discussion at all of what 'the LGBTQ+ community' is, why they need to be supported (unlike, say, the left handed 'community') etc. Only the idea that you have some kind of right to refuse to respect other people, but expect to be respected and treated well by them. Doesn't their book say 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'?
@@rachelsnee8926 Replace the LGBTQ+ community with the sexy lamp fandom. The story itself wouldn't change internally, since an """opinion""" is just changed for another one. Which shouldn't happen with LGBTQ+ and a made up fandom.
i like that comment format, im gonna steal that
>: ^ ( : "Hey pal, why should I apologize if that's just what I believe in? My viewpoint won't be different."
@@Messier42-handle
: D Yay!
"I QUICKLY BECAME HOMOPHOBIC"
but like, y'know, in a relatable way where I'm the victim here
@@KrimsonKattYTThat one is a surprisingly nuanced and believable story.
@@KrimsonKattYT People dont just become homophobic because they were treated horribly by a gay person. I didnt start believing that people with brown eyes were bad people because I was once bullied by someone with brown eyes. The reason for that is there isnt a widespread societal belief that theres something wrong with brown eyed people. Bigotry doesnt come into existence out of thin air. Theres a reason for it existing, often because it benefits the people in power in some way. Thats not the only reason, since there are many more things that factor into it. I didnt have to be a piece of shit for people to still hate me and be disgusted by me. I wont say that I'm an angel, but I try to be a good person to everyone and still many people hate me. And when I lash out at them, I'm being a bad person
My family said stuff like "Oh it's not that we don't believe in same-sex marriage, it's that we think the govt should butt out of the institution of marriage" -- "We're not anti-gay, we have lots of gay friends!" -- "Love the sinner, hate the sin" -- "It's okay to be gay, just keep it to yourself."
So, bearing that last one in mind, having just moved in with my girlfriend, I stopped speaking to those family. They didn't wanna hear about it, after all. :3
I don't get how the last one is all that "bad", so enlighten me please. If it's an "acting gay vs being gay" thing, I get it, but otherwise, I don't.
Yeah, here’s what really happened, based on how it’s framed…
Gay girl says to friend, “Have you heard of gay people?”
Friend: Yes.
“Do you support them?”
No.
“Okay.” *Has just tried to come out to bestie and had her fears of rejection confirmed, proceeds to not say anything to any other person in the school and just tries to wait out till graduation when she can get out and start her life.*
Judging someone for doing something wrong is the right thing to do, not bullying. Being a bigot is wrong. Being gay is not. So one person deserves to be shunned, and the other does not
It probably wasn't even that strong of a reaction, like the girl's making it out to be. Maybe a few side glances, but even then, I doubt she was the school pariah.
While I agree in principle, these are at least portrayed to be children. Sometimes making an LGBT friend can change a life. I think a better thing than judgment is to ask why. If they can't explain themselves, maybe they'll realize, "oh, these are not *my beliefs* but propaganda." It takes time and courage to disagree with one's culture. This very thing happened to me living in Europe, and their calm, compassionate questioning is what led me to let go of the cult thinking I was brainwashed with. Eventually I did research into the original Hebrew of the bible, and realized that regardless of whether I chose to believe or not, the bible does NOT condemn homosexuality, only promiscuity and child harm.
@@WynneLyou are more concerned w the comfort of bigots than the harm they do to vulnerable people
@@LifeStrike2030 no and also this is in the context of children
@@LifeStrike2030 like it's not like giving sympathy for one kid will remove it from the other one somehow
The conservative opinion that it's better to politely deprive someone of rights than to lose your temper trying to be considered a human being.
This is the perfect way to put it.
real
True, i've been reccomanded videos of "trans people tantrums over being misgendered" like, wow, someone's getting in someone else face trying to force something on them because of their bigotry and continue trying to do so after being told to go away, the person trying to defend themselves are definitively "throwing a tantrum"
conservatists thinking they can mock people for "throwing tantrums" when they literally did way worse because of budlight
Yep, its the sad state of politics that the moment you show any emotion, you are immediately taken less seriously
Some liberals have historically fallen for "respectability/civility politics," sadly---though, I think a lot of liberals have fortunately wised up since Trump.
It absolutely enrages me when a person attempts to hide behind politeness, civility, or "uwu respect" while espousing or doing things that are hurtful and disrespectful.
"Am I a bad person for not supporting the LGBTQ+ community?"
Yes.
Not everyone has to or needs to support the community. You can be a good person and not support them
@@Player-p4k No, you really can't.
@@Player-p4k then it's okay to be rasict? based on your logic people can hate whoever the want for how people are born ig
@@deposingveto being racist is something completely different. it is about nationality being gay is about sexuality. 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS
@@johanpersson7585bigotry is bigotry, irregardless of what you are specifically bigoted against
Tbh I'm kinda torn between "Of all the things that didn't happen, this didn't happen the most." and "Homophobe inserting themself into a twisted version of a Coming Out story for either pity points or to get others to start being homophobic as well." although I think it might just be both.
I see lots of people who are homophobes who say “woke people are dramatic and whiny about their beliefs” then they do stuff like this video after being called a homophobe (rightfully)
i had to read the title 3 times before i realized it was a joke 💀
Jammi was homophobic?!??
*reads title thrice*
Oh..
*Reads title*
TF
Oh
I didn't really interpret it as a joke and instead interpreted it as the sort of "title" of the vid he's talking about.
It also took a bit for me to realize that it wasn't Jammi talking about himself though.
I thought Jammi had accidentally said something that someone took as homophobic and there was some controversy when I saw the title of the video. What it actually is makes a lot more sense though!
yea I was thinking when I see his videos and the titles are like that I think at least one person skiped the video because of the title
I'm gonna be honest this video is downright dangerous, I watched it when I was much younger I think the year it came out and it genuinely convinced my young brain that the girl was the victim in the situation and that gay people were rude, mean and wrong.. it contributed a lot towards me developing a homophobic mindset for a few years and I'm willing to be honest about that because it's something I regret but also a viewpoint I held as a child and I'd like to think I've matured and moved well past that now, other children are and will be influenced by videos like that, it's very scary
…and that's the entire point of the video. To incite hatred and violence against the LGBT+ community in kids.
You know, grooming kids into the hateful antigay ideology.
Remember, Folks: With the reichwing, _every Accusation is A Confession_ of what they're doing or want to do.
Thanks for admitting that - I'm so glad that you have developed to a point where you can see that you were taught lies, including by this video, and how harmful this kind of thing can be.
This came out 8 days ago…💀
@@Texasiscoolorsmthidkiforgor the video he was reacting to with the girl... that video came out I think around 7 years ago
@@PuffTastic OH SORRY-
Thank you for defining this, I broke up with a boyfriend of three years decades ago because he declared “I’m not homophobic I just don’t like gay people”
That video is an excellent example of the weaponization of civility. "I'm fine, I have all my rights, you are wrong for disrupting the status quo that serves me just because it doesn't serve you"
One of my favorite quotes is “those who are used to privilege will often see equality as oppression” and that is so true. The people who are used to being treated special feel entitled to that special treatment and feel like something is being taken away when others are simply given the same rights
This read like a tumblr fake story in an alternate universe where tumblr is used by homophobes and the stories end badly
It's not that far off - it's giving the "down with cis bus" tumblr story
@@punyatoahotachatterjee1889whats that?
its a lot of these veiws that genuinely concern me, I live in a conservative state and when a trans girl in the UK was murdered the news covered it. It scares me that peoples response to this coverage was "even if you dont support their ideology murder is wrong" like what?? Unnecessarily bringing up that you don't agree with trans people in response to murder is grotesque and genuinely depressing that people cant see further than "murder is wrong, and trans people don't belong."
" I was bullied for being a Homophobe"- I'm failing to see the problem here.
"Its not that i hate (minority group) i just dont agree with them and think they shouldn't exist"
"She said 'have you heard of the LGBT+ community?'"
r/thathappened - no one would phrase it that way
Sounds like phrasing from a Jack Chick tract where the protagonists talk to Americans who haven't heard of Jesus.
i remember seeing that video 😭
at the end, her thinking she learned something when she didn’t 🫠
Literally the only thing she learned was to try not to get caught next time 😂 Wait til her employers get ahold of that vid 🤣
@@Sly-MooseHer employers? She’s a cartoon?
@@DeathnoteBBhey Roger Rabbit has a detective buddy. Don't worry they'll handle this.
This is like someone saying “I’m being bullied for being racist”
I’ve seen the original video to see how bad it was years ago and I still regret it.
I felt like the author took a coming out story and twisted it to victimize homophobes lol.
@@aquamarina7944Same. It felt forced.
@@supermangarritano6636 Very
@@aquamarina7944 Super
I'm curious. What were the comments like? No wait- Lee guess. The comments were turned off? 😂
"Am I a bad person for being evil and immoral? ... No, that can't be it... My evil and immoral cult leader says we aren't."
CELEBRATE!!!! I AM GETTING BABYS FIRST BINDER!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
thank you for the videos! It really helped me to come out to my sibling:)
Congratulations comrade, I'm starting testosterone in a month.
Hope all goes well
@@grousehound7912 Congrats! I'm so happy for you.
@@statesburgproductions
Let us all celebrate with a Jammi video:D
Congratulations friends! I hope you find all the joy on your journeys
I live in a Christian family and used to go to a catholic primary school and wile neither of them were directly anti-LGBTQIA+ (love how long the acronym is getting) there was naturally an element of “you can’t do this”. So when two other kids in my class said that they were lesbians I mentioned “I don’t think you can do that because the bible says so”.
Now I’m a Trans Christian in secondary school and it’s an incredibly painful situation to look back on.
Moving to secondary school, on the first day, I met a trans boy and after becoming friends with him i began to realise that being LGBTQIA+ was completely ok and I can’t even imagine where I would be right now if I hadn’t met him.
Does bud not know that trans is a sin ☠️
What do you think of being with the religion which vocally against your community?
@@DinoGamer2k9 Leviticus 18:22
Gay is a sin
Also trans is a sin
@@FNAF-GUY11Does Blud not realize not everyone believes in your, unscientific, unproven that it actually all happened and is even real Religion?
I feel like some people don't understand that support doesn't mean throwing bricks at the cops at stonewall. When people ask if you support LGBT+, they're asking "hey, you don't have anything against LGBT+, right?"
The way I still hate her voice years later
It's the most exaggerated whining I've ever heard and it makes me nauseous. Truly repulsive.
It just screams "I'm the victim here, please sympathize 😢"
@@MrKitrid it's designed to - it's 'fundy baby' voice
I recently moved into a house near a pretty rural-feeling suburb and I have seen lots of signs against LGBTQIA+ people. It’s a new school and I’m trying to pass as male, but I’m freaking terrified. I hope it all goes well! 🤞 Update: It’s going amazing! Most people assume I’m a dude and I’ve only been asked if I’m a boy or a girl once or twice! My teachers are surprisingly supportive and the only reason people like I might not be a dude is because of my voice (it’s generally lower than most cis females but still high-pitched) and my breasts (even with my binder 😞) but other than that it’s good!
Good luck sir💙🩷🤍🩷💙
I'm so sorry. Let us know you're safe!
Oof, good luck! Just remember that the majority of people are not as transphobic as the loud bigoted voices make it seem.
good luck - I hope you have people to support you in this process, and if not, perhaps it's worth checking out the local support groups to see how they can help...
This is giving so mutch "is my frist day at gay high school, hope nobody finds out I'm straight" vibes fr 💀💀edit: OR THE CLOSETED SUPER STRAGHIT MEME TOO OMG- 💀💀💀
omg fr
I remember watching the original video a LONG time ago. At that time, I had no idea what LGBT even was, so I was mainly just confused when watching it. But now that I DO know, yeah the video's pretty messed up and incredibly manipulative in my opinion.
"I mean I TOLERATE gay people. I just don't support them or think they should have rights! Why is everyone so mad at me? I'm the victim!"
It tries to paint LGBT people as the "bad guys" when LGBT people the ones who actually get bullied and discriminated against in the real world by homophobes. (I also think it's strange that the character never really elaborates on WHY she "doesn't support the LGBT community.")
It's like whoever made the original video took gay people's real-life experiences and flipped it to make the the homophobe the "innocent" one, with the intention of manipulating its audience into turning against LGBT people and thinking we're all "bullies" who need to be punched down. It's absolutely sickening.
Ive only just started the video but taht title is still wacky as
WAIT NO NOT THIS ANIMATION 😭😭
The Click would definitely stamp the square “Things that didn’t happen” on his bingo card, for this video. All of her peers already had strong opinions on LGBTQ, but this is the first time she was asked about her stand on it. Sure. Too bad the writers of this fiction didn’t place her as a newly arrived member of the school. More believable.
Its her first day at gay school.
CLICK MENTIONED??? OMG??? but no fr, i want to screenshot his bingo card & stamp it for how utterly unbelievable this is 😭😭😭😭 i can’t with this story
@@KrimsonKattYTNAUUUUUUUUR WHY WOULD YOU BRING UP GACHA 😭😭😭😭 that gave me traumatic flashbacks to when i was in elementary school & had no style or class 😔💅✨ i’ll never escape it istg it always finds a way to come back & haunt me somehow
When naruto fanfictions are more well written than conservatist's 600-lies-in-one videos
"I made this up to get mad about" it fits riiiiight in there
“People don’t want to hear my opinions!”
The opinions: I don’t believe you deserve basic human rights
I haven't watched it yet, but right off the bat I can say this. Bullying is when someone mistreats you for something you can't control, like being LGBTQIA, disabled, poor, or a different race; or for no reason at all. Being told that your discriminatory behavior is wrong, or being shunned for such behavior, is not bullying; it is the consequences of your own actions.
I kept hoping for a twist like "this is what happened to an individual who came out as LGBTQ, and how people treated them" but it kept getting worse and the twist never came 😭
If someone is being bullied for being a homophobe maybe idk NOT be homophobic how is something like this allowed on youtube this is so cringe videos like this will make young people think like not only THIS is how we are BUT they will think its ok to be homophobic this whole cringey video is a total r/thathappened moment
It's by MinuteVideos (they usually make good content so it's odd) and this video appears to have been removed from their channel for obvious reasons
@@TheBigJayAgenda I see and I see yes very obvious big yikes moment but I am curious to see what other videos they might have
@@gamerfourlife64 Check them out
@@TheBigJayAgendaI remember they put up a poll on whether to remove it. Most people said no but I guess they decided to anyways
@@TheBigJayAgenda*Why did they make it to begin with?* AAAA!
7:08 "Im a homophobe🥺BUT IM THE VICTIM👹"
First of all homophobe or homophobic means that you are afraid of gay people.. this young girl in the story is not afraid of them she just doesn't support them lol. And yes it is okay for her to not support the lgbtq community
@@nonothebat "UMM ACTUALLY PHOBIA MEANS AFRAID A-" *meat grinder noises*
All I keep hearing is a hypocrite who wants to be exclusive and maintain privilege, but can't handle when the shoe is on the other foot. Although it is ideal to have majority opinion being an inclusive and safe one. So that's a good thing in this very trite and contrived animation...
So its ok when he's bullied but the homophobe can't be bullied?
we all agree that this story never happened, but it's very interesting how as jamie said it reads like the reversal of a gay kid in school story. it happened almost exactly like this to me, when i was 13 i told a friend in confidence that i was bisexual and he outed me to the whole school. bullying got worse, harassment got worse. the difference is that didn't tell my parents, i only came out to them regarding my sexuality when i was 20, after coming out to them as trans at 18 and 19.
i dont think the video was satire, i think it was a malicious attempt at reversing reality and i hope the creator got what was coming to them in the end
One might call it "cargo-cult victimhood". They imitate all the superficial parts of being a victimised by society for a harmless difference, but the substance is wrong, so the supply-craft of left-wing sympathy never arrive.
This animation is why we need LGBTI+ education in *all* schools at *all* levels. I think it's a deliberate reframing of LGBTI+ kid's experiences of homophobic / biphobic / transphobic bullying to create false equivalency. Very telling how they talk about having different "preferences", as that's what a lot of homo/bi/transphobics believe it to be.
@@KrimsonKattYTtelling them that not everyone likes the opposite gender is not that hard, and it's not inappropriate.
@@KrimsonKattYT Much like young children are taught how babies are made waaaay before 4th grade, there are ways to talk about the LGBTQ community that is completely appropriate to younger children. Have you never talked to a 3, 4 or 5-year-old? They understand plenty of complicated concepts, and they are curious by nature. Kids in my circle (kids of friends or family) have all understood since they were pretty young that some kids have a mommy and daddy, but others have 2 daddies or 2 mommies who love each other very much. It's completely age appropriate to talk about different family structures and how people can love different people. The only people who think such talk is not appropriate are usually very intolerant of differences and bigoted.
@@KrimsonKattYT Your view of innocence is predatory.
@@KrimsonKattYT You do know most kids are able to grasp the concept of gender at around 3? Also kids know what couples are, they see their parents and their friends parents every day, so they can and do understand if you tell them two men love each other or two women.
LGBT topics are not inherently sexual and they should be taught to kids.
@@KrimsonKattYT Telling young kids that some people are gay, bi or trans is not inappropriate in the bloody slightest.
“Oh being a homophobe isn’t my choice!”
Yes it definitely is, if you care enough you’ll try to educate yourself, not spread hate and misinformation about people who are just like you, just with different romantic preferences
Thats like saying being gay is a choice
@@sylbez being gay is an identity, being an homophobe is a belief, beliefs can he changed easily, identities can’t. There are many people who if they had the choice they wouldn’t be gay, being gay is tough especially when no one accepts you.
So no it’s not the same, I’m saying that people who prefer to believe in hate are choosing to do so.
@@sylbezthat’s like saying being racist is the same as being a different race…
@@sylbez being gay is an identity, being homophobic is a belief, beliefs can be changed very easily.
So no they are not the same, being gay harms only yourself, you are hated by people because you are different, being homophobe harms others because you just can’t accept they are different.
I mean I did ask (sort of) one of my old friend's what they thought of being queer and she replied with homophobia and I didn't get in touch with her since (closely anyways). I'm also autistic and extremely direct so that could be why I asked in such a manner
i asked the same way my friend during urbex, we r still the best buddies, for like 9 years? damn so long
Omfg the “uwu I’m just a smol harmless bean” voice is so grating.
I love coming out to my family as trans and immediately seeing Jammi post :)
The Jam man knows
He sees all
Congratulations!!!!! I wish you all the joy in your adventure
Congrats to you! I hope they were supportive 😊
Congrats
when i was in high school, being gay was probably the worst thing you could ever do. one time we tried starting a gay-straight alliance club, but was forced to shut it down bc parents were pulling their children out of school to homeschool them so that they wouldnt have to go to school with wokeness ig
The way i felt watching the video alongside your commentary was, to quote myself:
“Oh my god… the f***ing irony.”
Just reverse the roles and it’ll be realistic.
I think that's what they already did, they took a coming out story and reversed it
Wild how the main character says the other kids didn’t listen to her reasons. Okay, but what are those reasons?! It’s weird that the video doesn’t go into it at all, like how she came to these conclusions, seemingly independent of her parents.
that's because they know perfectly well their 'reasons' are not supportable or valid.
WAKE UP EVERYONE THE KING HAS POSTED!
Get the popcorn!!!
Same vibe as "bullied for being racist" lmao
The little girl voice and the hot lolita styling of the main character here really adds to the ick of the framing.
Ya, mega ick. Hope that video gets taken down 😂
Sorry the what styling? 💀
@@DeathnoteBBlolita, it's a style of dress.
@@forest_green Something tells me that’s not what they meant
Fr fr I can’t stand that stupid obviously affected voice
Her response to the initial questions reminds me of the Death Note memes
"Hey, Light, have you heard of the lgbt?"
"Yeah?"
"So, do you support them?"
*music kicks in
Lights inner monologue:
"Another question to test if I'm Kira...."
The little kid/baby voice used by the main character throughout, especially when whining about how classmates want nothing to do with her homophobic butt is certainly...something.
I remember being accused of being racist to white people when one guy called me an illegal and I told him not too
When this video came out I was probably in middle school. It confused me to say the least. As a still questioning queer preteen trying to figure out where I fit in, this channel made me feel uncomfortable when they made the ‘I was bullied for being my homophobic’ video. I am Demisexual btw. Anytime I see the video or see someone react to it I just get more frustrated at the people who made it. I hate the fake story channels that only exist to piggyback on the talented story time creators. If your getting hate for hating a group of people, then you aren’t the victim!
Eyyyy demisexual gang!
Heyyy, fellow enby here!
Bullying is always wrong, EXCEPT maybe when you bully an homophobe
m-a-y-b-e, thats a weird way to spell always
It's not bullying when someone with less power pushes back.
@@SireaquiredMaybe.
Try to change their viewpoint first
the "an" makes this comment better
@@Sireaquired No. Bullying is always wrong, full stop. Even if it wasn't, it's wildly ineffective. Conservatism correlates with anxiety. Bullying worsens anxiety.
Hatred doesn't stop hatred. It wasn't angry, militant people who helped deprogram me. It was the ones who talked to me like a person, realizing that people are complicated. Sometimes we come from brainwashing rather than a healthy place of choosing our own beliefs. I would never have discovered my CPTSD without them.
I've never cared for how the dialoge falls in this "skit" it always seems to me like an adult trying to write a childs encounter but uses way to many 'big' words or words in general children wouldn't use. I'm going to say it was someone (an adult and possible evangelical christian) who basterdized a coming out story just to push their crap. The way it gets SOO close to the point but the point flies over the individuals head.
(I say evangelical christian as an EX evangelical, cause this is the stuff we'd spout)
It's not just the words but how they are phrased and how it's clearly a very unnatural way to speak. Even if it were coming from an adult in the story. I started having my reading and vocab at a college level by the end of 4th grade. There is still a BIG difference to how and to the way in which I speak now as a 32 yr old adult vs as a child. I also had a friend in school that reached a college level before 3rd grade and again, there is a difference between how she speaks now as a 32 yr old adult and back when we were kids, even in junior high/HS. And she wa she honors everything, Captain of the debate team type. So its not as if speaking in an adult manner as a teen was foreign to her either.
@@Insertia_Nameia Absolutely! It's a 'fundy baby' voice, used deliberately, which is why it sounds like an adult woman pretending to be a powerless little girl, hence the mismatch between the vocabulary and the delivery...