StarCraft 2: THE MAP IS MINED OUT! (Serral vs Neeb)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2020
- One of the craziest ladder games of StarCraft 2. In this Zerg versus Protoss between Serral and Neeb we see what the ultimate late game of this matchup currently looks like.
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"It's over Serral, I have the high ground"
"You underestimate my power"
Zerg grows those limbs back quite a bit quicker than the not-jedi master anakin :o
Yea same vibe
@@Merumya and thats a ZERG FORCE! JOIN THE ZERG SIDE!!
me: wow, 1 hour? a nice bo5 coming up
Lowko: *No.*
I thought the same
"Watch and learn"
Damn Serral.
And a few seconds the counter "learn to macro" vs serral, LOL!
"its at both of our disadvantage to attack"
Serral: "and I took that personally."
Craziest thing of the entire match is how serral managed to trade resources evenly as ZERG
"Learn to macro, bro"
THE CHEEK OF IT. XD
*Serral:* Lowko, you suck!
*also Serral:* sends replays to Lowko!
What a man! :D
"Take notes"
ultimate flex
Made $$ from it. Smartest & wealthiest pro for a reason
Serral be like:
"He definitely needs help"
Lowko sucks as a pro player (e.g. vs Serral. He is still good solid player, but not a pro level). To be honest - Serral sucks in interviews and casting. So it's all fair and square ;)
And on top of it - I bet Lowko payed some Euros for the replay, so why not.
Uploaded this video ~8 hours ago. Usually that gives TH-cam plenty of time to process the video before I publish it, but apparently that's not quite done yet. It will be in 4K60 soon (whenever TH-cam finishes it). Not much I can do I'm afraid! Hope you enjoy.
EDIT: 4K happened! Only took about ~15 hours. Amazing.
It's ok Lowko. To be hones you are the only SC2 commentator that I watch, so if it is 360p then that is what it is haha
I'm just gonna watch it regardless. Quality of the content is better than the quality of the graphics.
Don't worry, I'll wait to watch it like everyone else will hehe.
A likely story. You are keeping all the extra p's to yourself! Release the p's!
360p, is that even legal?
This feels like that WOL campaign mission "In Utter Darkness"
OMFG I thought the same thing xD
Fuck! Me too lol
I always get depression if I remeber that mission. I was so immersed into the game that it felt for me that the whole universe was truly lost in that moment.
@@Rorimac67 Yeah i get what you mean, that mission had a great storytelling.
"Not enough minerals"
"You require more vespene gas"
I'M TRYING OK
The banter between them around 50min is the best part of this whole video. I hope to see more stuff like that.
When youre spine rushing your opponents base at 1 hour in the game, you know some serious shit happend all game hhaha
After 36:14 it needs a good Artanis speech:
My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those beside you now...
"We must hold this archive for it to store our regret and mistake"
My thoughts exactly
Are you saying, after Amon being the big baddy of SC2, Serral may be the baddy of SC3? :O
Me "what am I going to do tomorrow in this boring age"
Lowko 'posts 1hour long video''
Me "nvm"
Yes, watching the day after you posted since 360 is not great for an hour long game
Well on paper this age is everything but boring. The issues are with us, having short attention spans and not appreciating enough the abundance of entertainment that is available.
wr
Everybody's a gangster until the 63 minute queen push hits
Me: "There's no way this is not a stalemate."
Serral: "Hello there..."
Zerg: Vipers exist.
*Sees a dude with the username Cynical Aspie
This is getting out of hand; now there are 2 of us!
@@JorenMathews They helped, but weren't even present in the last big fight. The biggest turning point of the game was having an entire extra base worth of resources to draw on over his opponent. You can take riskier moves when you know you've got 5k minerals over your opponent and can therefore afford it.
All I got from this game is that zerglings and queens are the ultimate late game zerg army.
Absolutely
@@trojan2984 brb gonna go hit gm rank 1 without ever getting lair
@@AnakinTheWeird or a roach warren
True, if you have the macro & micro that Serral does along with game knowledge...
Well you need your own scary death ball, but once that's out there to distract the opponent you are pretty much set
Neeb" Draw, bro?"
Serral " I'll show you"
Neeb: Draw?
Serral: You wish 😈
Neeb: My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left.
This game deserve a standing ovation, Lowko also deserve a standing ovation for casting this, thanks for showing us another great game!
Zerg doesnt have static defense. They have slow sieging ultra drones.
ZERG IS BROKEN
"That's a Viper kill, that's big!" *Serral calmly replaces it using his 6.5 gas bank* LOL!
That is the craziest end to a game I've ever seen. Serral is so smart, he seemed to invent multiple strategies on the fly to break impossible situations...
best moment: "I mean, if you can.... O MY GOD, THAT'S A FREAKING LOT OF QUEENS" XD
55:57 would've been nice to include ;-)
It was a critical mass of queens
Queens are so good early game, and late game they are still quite useful....If any zerg unit needs nerfing still I think it might be the queen.
Perhaps something as simple as not allowing the same unit to be transfused while a transfuse's heal is already occurring.
wr
@@benjamindeh873 Queens in Versus don’t heal over time, those are Swarm Queens.
I love the banter between them at almost-mined-out-time 43:30 ish
Me: kalm
Lowko: imagine if spore crawlers could go through a nydus
Me: panik
Imagine spore crawlers being any more OP than they already are XD
This is what I imagine in-universe lore fights to look like. Zerg absolutely overwhelming everywhere Protoss isn't, and just throwing massive amounts of units at the Protoss, but Protoss holding on with the technological superiority.
But Protoss doesnt hold most of the time. Zerg tech > Protoss tech
@@jeepld Zerg Queens > Protoss anything
@@jeepld bio tech too good
"I ran out of good games to cast"
Florencio: You rang?
♥ I concur, FLOVID-XIX is crazy and interesting to watch.
No, Florencio doesn't send good games.
that Florencio guy doesnt have good games!, just kinda strange ideas, that only work because his enemies are weak/make mistakes!
He means long, epic games. While entertaining as Hell, Florencio games are not that.
I don't like florencios games, because he send only wins, it would be great if he d Send a lose once in a while just that it stays interesting.
Right now whenever lowko uploads one of florencios games I watch the first 8 min, than I skip to the end to see who wins, when florencios wins I think, that was to be expected and close the vid.
Omg Terran was so OP in this one.
So without looking at the video, I’m assuming serral wins
Always a good bet
yep. protos late game is a bit more viable tho, but seems not quite there yet
Zerg wins, not Serral.
It could sound ridiculous, but if the SC1 was pretty well balanced in terms of each race's abilities, SC2 is unbalanced as hell in favor of Zerg: vision, map control, static defense, mobility, casters etc. The most versatile, the best unit in the game that brings a tons into the victory - did you know what unit it is? Its queen. Bam. Not a Battlecruiser, not a Carrier or Tempest. Just damn queens doing so much that even if Zerg builds 10-15 of them and looses couple, that and only that unit is responsible for how the zerg players getting insane value in comparison with T and P. It tough, it armored, it shoots up, it can heal, and finally, it increases larvae production! IMO no unit in game have such a huge list of advantages. Even the move speed - on creep it outruns half of the non-zerg units!
@@true_xander that Brenda and Karen army tho, guess that's how it goes if you complain to the managers enough times 🤣
@@true_xander Yeah no. It's Serral. Not Zerg.
So early the best quality is 360p
I feel you
It hurts
ouch
Oof one hour of 360
Still is 360 p after 30 minutes smfh
Imagine telling Serral "learn to macro bro"
Big ups to Serral for coming through, what a match!
Edit: Just...seriously though....those zerglings....incredible work
serral: "I'll show you" .... how this game is played, bro
me: I'll go to sleep early
this video: hold my last mineral patches
"The Queen-perial march"
Damn, that was an hour long game which featured two of the best sc2 players of all time in an epic clash only to end with a last stand, a last all in from Serral
That joke made everything
Very cool tho, this is the Starcraft 2 I like
Long live sc2 and long live the Finnisher
This was indeed the craziest ladder game I've seen. Great game! I hope you get to cast more games like this.
6:58 you can see Serral moving his overlords to prevent the phoenix from lifting up the drones.
In the very end, Serral didn't even send in the group of zerglings at the bottom right. He probably thought it was already too harsh on neeb lol
this match should have own cinematic
0:58 Wait. I just started watching. This is *one* game? Woooow. I though it was a Bo3, lol.
XD That infiniheal from queens on the corruptor was amazing XD I bet it was probably like "well I can still long range this corruptor" and then serral is like "they don't just spread creep, they can still heal in the late game!"
The final minutes of this game left me smiling like to my ears 😝
1:05:25 - I'm getting nerd chills, this is why I watch these!
48:45 Serral: I'll show u
These players styles are extremely complementary so they have the potential for epic HBO series matches. 😁
loko: "shooting blue balls" wins caster of the year award XD lol
Thank you for casting this Match, it was the best i seen all year for long games
45:13 finally, the shield 3rd upgrade
Your name is "I want to be anonymous," funny how you're the only name I remember.
@@RonaldMcPaulThere is a story behind it.
When I try to sign up a Google account, I got misleading and thought that I have to use the real name as the name of Google account.
I just yelling 「幹!讓我匿名（fuxk ! Let me be anonymous !）」 in front of the screen, type this name in despair and then sent out.
So that is the story behind this name.
"All of these guys are on friendly terms." And then, there was iDRa.
What Idra said was right at that time. Protoss was overpowered (and was nerfed later). His problem was that he thought he could make a change and that the community doesnt consist of only idiots. People dont unterstand balance, they only cry for their own race. So if someone like Idra, who actually unterstood the real balance problems (as we knew later), tries to change something, he had to deal with the idiot army first . It like in real life. The majority is wrong most of the time.
true! idras hate towards huk was just to make everyone see that the game is not balanced :D get outta here :D loved idra for his hate towards players, made some good entertainment :D
Finally glorious 1080p! Now I can watch this without my eyes bleeding.
Saved to my "favorite SC games" playlist FOR SURE :D
Couple years down the road I can come back and enjoy the genius of Serral again.
It's funny how back in broodwar probably he most popular zerg timing attack is mass hydras, while in LotV they are just "anti air hive guardians"
I swear, their chat alone is already worth the video.
Lowko: I love how he keeps some suply for zerglings.
next minute
32:05 What in the world are you going to use zerglings for?
Greate video mad respect. Been watching you at work for long time now.
Insane game! The part when Lowko says - maybe I should speed up a little bit - I thought - dude, now the interesting part begins - we haven't seen that kind of game before.
Neh, Serral knew exactly what to do the entire match, he was testing what voids and tempests can do in the hands of a competent player. I mean c'mon. He wiped the entire map clean of protos and still ended up with a bank big enough to rebuild an army and a half all the while ensuring that Neeb just does not have the production capacity even if he miscalculated his bank. And then there is the supply block, just put a shiny little sherry on top.
Yes, it is a demonstration of how late game Z crushes late game P simply by slowly expanding and surrounding the opponent with creep and static defense. Maybe an impatient player would have lost by suiciding into the maxed fleet but even then Z can remax more quickly.
Yeah. With equal skill late game Zerg can't lose. There are just too many advantages in their favor.
@ Not quite. I let you figure out Neeb's mistake. It's glaringly obvious.
@@JorenMathews One just needs to find an equal skill match to test that theory.
@@JorenMathews Or you know, don't let your opponent get a nearly 10k resource advantage on you. He was screwed the moment that happened. It doesn't matter how good you are if your opponent can afford to rebuild their army and you can't, you'll lose every time. Resource denial is huge.
"We're a half hour in and nobody's winning."
I'm reminded of a phrase we use in Cardgames- "I'm doing Powerful Nothing."
I also love the chatting in this match. It feels like both of these guys are practicing and, and figure it's more important to dial I to the new balance patch than to actually win this, particular game. It's good sportsmanlike chit-chat, as neither is afraid to give their opponent small bits of info. Though Serral is being a cockey bastard. He's more than good enough to earn it, but he is, and I love it.
Powerful nothing?
@@JR-White In cardgames, this is when you're making a huge combo happen- you're drawing your deck, making infinite resources, making cards ping-pong back and forth between the graveyard and into play, but some key piece is missing and you aren't actually winning. You're doing a lot of stuff, and none of it is ending the game.
That was a beautiful game! Thanks for casting it!
Phenomenal game, thanks for casting this Lowko!
Always love super long games!
So did you end up having to pay for the replay?
Thanks for the episode~
Honestly, this game was more of a get to pay =D
Great game! Neeb needed to be harassing like Serral was. Imagine a dozen or so waves of a dozen zealots running into the back of Serral's base. Neeb had no win condition after the 30 minute mark.
All that said, much closer final fight than I expected.
yeah, that fortified high ground for neeb was really really strong. It really did take almost serrals whole 7k resource advantage to break it, which came as quite a surprise to me. Protoss late game op? (lol, j/k. I'm pretty sure that was a "static defense op" kind of scenario)
The static defense vs not-so-static defense finale was awesome though!
Problem was as lowko mentioned zealots aren't as good as serrals lings due to the fact they can't really retreat. You can relate them more to banelings in all honesty.
@@codywotring8973 yeah, like zerglins late game seems so op tbh. cost nothing, super mobile super dps
@@vitaliicherkasov4866 its strong but its not quite op. Similar to marines in the late game. Doing a drop on 3/3 with stim can be deadly. Zerg has to invest so much money into 3/3 cracklings. Zerg having the most expensive style out of all 3 races, they do need a strong backstab mechanic
Lowko: Terran doesn't have a good static defense.
Planetary Fortress: am I a joke to you?
The best part of that game for me?
The late game banter between the it.
It just oozes genuine respect and cameraderie to me. Always nice to see that kind of thing.
This was like 10th anniversary of playing SC2 versus for me... (btw: I mainly started playing because Lowko and Winter)
What about Husky?
Check out the Bronze League Heroes series
@@PeterZaitcev greatest series of all time
@@sarevok6 sure.
Omg Serral spoke to him. Lowko has talked with god.
That was wild! Thanks for sharing/ casting
That was a great game! ^^
Thanks to them for sharing it with us and to you for casting it! ;)
Lowko: "If it's going to be an all out slug-fest [...] you know, where both of the players end up mining out the map [...], I would be very surprised!"
Me : *looking at the video's title* Ooooh boi....
after watching 1 hour at 360p my eyes ache so much.... epic game btw, and the conversation is lit
I had to wait till after work to watch this because the video was still rendering when I woke up. So hype to see this!
Serral: "Watch and learn, bud." :D
Behold the first time in Protoss history where Tempests are good.
Are they trying to do the For Auir scene? XD
That was one of the greatest games i've ever seen you cast! Lategame like this isn't all too common when it comes to the pros we usually see, so this was really refreshing. It kinda reminded me of the 3h gandmaster battle royal xD
This was the perfect 420K subscriber special video. Thanks Lowko.
Wait for it.
A bit more.
Just a bit more.
And here it goes:
*HELL-LOW EF-FREE-VON! HIS NAME IS LOWKO!*
And welcome back to the comment section of the video where we find ourselves in a 360p
Lowko could you please cast some more viewer matches? They're crazy fun and it would be great when you don't have great (well played) games to cast.
Love the content either way :D
Got to admit Lowko casting and narrating helps me sit through this one hour long game
The title and the length of the video makes me feel excited!
"I am going to beat you with mass Queens."
"Run out of good games to cast"
Have you tried to cast silver or gold viewer submitted games? Or you just forget that thing exist (which is more reasonable)?
gold and silver...good games...am i missing a point here...or did you not make an ironic smily at the end? :D
@@YpsilonK (sarcasm_off) have you ever watched viewer's submitted games? Pro games looks boring compared to them.
@@SeriousApache to be fully honest. can´t stand bad plays. it s like watching kids play bball at the park. but hey, if you happy with it, I m happy for you! it s just not for me. all love
This was FREAKING AMAZING! Loved it. Monsters.
Didn't expect to be watching in utter darkness but here we are ! great game
I wanna see him host a game with AI vs AI but they both have unlimited apm
omg, yes please
i want this i need this
Game is so long it's still 360p T_T
i love these longer games, it shows the true and incredible skill of these players. regardless of who wins, both of these guys are unbelievable.
Great game! That was amazing. Thanks for the video.
StarCraft 2: THE MAP IS MINED OUT! (Serral vs Neeb)
"THE MAP IS MINED OUT!" great name lol
Arent queens a bit too versatile?
They are the best defense early game.
They ALWAYS provide value so making them early game is not a waste. You can defend, spread creep, heal buildings, push with them to heal units.
They are still quite useful and pretty much a MUST for late game to heal some troops.
What other unit in SC2 is half as versatile and as useful in so many roles?...They are cheap, dont cost gas, dont cost larvae, and dont take much supply.
I hear what you're saying, and agree they are the most versatile unit in the game. But all of their roles are critical and I don't see a real problem. Every race has something that on it's own appears very strong, but is actually compensating for underlying weaknesses. The only thing I'll say about Queens that seems "overpowered" is like what we saw in this game, where in niche ultra late game scenarios, it's possible to mass them, collect full energy, and transfuse for days. But that's a rare occurrence and I don't see how to fix that, if it even should be fixed.
Dragon Cleavage challenge
@@colehunter71 There's a few easy ways.
1- Reduce their max energy
2- Limit the amount of queens you can produce (1 per existing hatchery maybe?)
3- Do not allow a second transfuse to instaheal if a first transfuse is already healing the same unit.
4- Reduce their HP or change their armour type ( I feel they are a bit too tanky for what they are)
5- DIvide all those roles they fit in to 2 separate units (Take some abilities/roles away from the queen and create a new unit)
@@benjamindeh873 These sound like terrible ideas that would kill zerg early game. Only 1 per hatch? forget about ever getting to spread creep then because you can't afford to not be injecting.
@@colby1398 And you wouldnt be able to defend with only queens from both land and air and you wouldnt be able to push late game with a lot of queens and you wouldnt be able to nydus and invade the enemy with queens and roaches...thats...kind of part of the point of my suggestion, queen does too much.
Or outright remove queens and replace them with mana in the hatch and a skill to inject, and then add another unit which spreads creep.
Or divide the queen in to 2 units:
A weak base managing queen (Inject + spread creep, maybe even also the healing thing, but she cant attack) and an early game defending unit.
Lower the price of the queen so you can produce both enough queens and defending units.
There are a lot of options to make queens more balanced.
Now if your argument is "Nah, the fact that the queen is super useful from the very start of the game, to the very end of the game, and does almost everything unlike any other unit in the game is TOTALLY balanced"...well..Thats a different argument than just disliking one of dozens of options to fix that issue.
No other unit in the game does as much as the queen and is as useful thorough the entire game. Not even remotely close.
Terrans have a trash unit which is mostly used at the start of the game (reaper, you rarely see more than 1 in an entire game, some times not even that). Why couldnt zerg have something similar? say for creep spreading for example.
That was great play on both sides. Wow
The best of the best ist just good enough for Lowko. Thanks for the great commentaries!
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Low level Starcraft: One side wins
High level Starcraft: play to a draw
Like Chess
That was one amazing game. Great cast lowko
This was one hell of a game! Loved the ending.
So early and the vid seems only in 360P for some reason?
TH-cam processing is very slowly today for some reason. Still processing till 4k
When your so early everyone is saying first
First lol
First
Your that early the quality isn’t even there yet :)
quality doesn't have anything to do with early this time
@@MadMan-7978 yea
storm trooper music was perfect for the queens march lol was exactly the song that came to mind
great cast
thanks