Ah, I do love this song. I used to associate the old man in the song with my grandfather and now that he's passed I'm crying listening to this song again. Still, a lovely story of a grandfather's courage inspiring young Vanyel to take action despite his justifiable fear.
@@Dragonlover553 The first book of his series made me cry, but that could be because his character especially resonated with me due to similar backstories. I like her books, and frequently re-read them, but Vanyel's series is my favourite.
@@AltoSnow I had the same reason for resonating with the first book's story. I'm shay'a'chern and had parents like Vanyel. And yes, I have adopted the in-universe term, at least for the time being XD
We all know what really happened in the liberal version. He jumps on the back of the coldrakes and tries to hump it while yelling. I am not a homophobe. i am not a racist.
I plan to bring mercedes lacky's book series and their music back to light by singing it for competitions in my LARPing. It's amazing and the songs themselves are stories, but mercedes sadly wasn't a 'this time' writer. Her books were eclipsed and swept under the dust...l and while her music has an amazing following, the fact is that firebird arts is defunct in its ability to distribute, and so the music in time will be a forgotten legend. Just wait till TH-cam goes down, which it will. The people who know this music is already few in number, no one will know it even exists, except the law when it gets down to copyrights,
I heard Firebird Arts isn't legally allowed to sell the music anymore, but I recently saw it being in store again. Do you know if anything has changed? www.firebirdarts.com/index.php?cPath=21_231&osCsid=4851444eb731a7790a56a1e9de890dab
This song, The 12th Doctors final speech to the 2 Masters, and the Courage monologue from To Kill a Mockingbird. Related ideas, I think. Even if you know you'll lose, you're obligated to try and do the right thing, the help others.
It's sad this song isn't in the books. I just bout a full compiled trilogy of the last herald mage, I hope this was a real event in the books. Holy crap, is this whole event the dream?
In this note, can you tell me which songs never appear in the books at all, event wise? I plan to read this series and vows and honour, and arrows flight IF I get to it. I'm okay with minor spoilers, but I don't want my hopes up. I know about the windrider and sunsinger and shadowdancer songs, which are a musical tale on its own, but any others? RSVP plz
I am not sure if your questions are serious or not so I shall answer them as if they are. This particular song is based on an event close to the end of the first book in the Last Herald-Mage trilogy. While I can't tell you about the event in other trilogies as I have yet to read them myself, I do know that The Colddrake, Web of Light, Vrondi's Eyes, Hawkbrother, and Magic's Price happen is some form over the course of the Last Herald-Mage trilogy. Demonbane and Shadow Stalker are lightly touched on in the same. The rest either I haven't seen, in the case of Earth Spirit, or are bardic songs that are occasionally sung in the books. While six months is a long time to wait for an answer I thought to provide one even if it's no longer needed.
I know what you mean, but I love how the statement "...this song isn't in the books." can be taken 2 ways. From what I can tell, there are 2 basic categories that songs from this album can be put into. Note: I could be wrong, this is just how I see things at this time. Songs that exist in the Valdemar Universe. They are the songs that get talked about by title in the books and have lyrics included at the back of Magic's Price). These songs include pre-existing songs such as My Lady's Eyes and Shadow-Lover. They also include songs based on Vanyel's life as a Herald-Mage, most of which we get little to no details about outside of the song itself. These include Shadow Stalker, Demonsbane, etc. Magic's Price also goes in this category, although we get a tiny bit more detail in the book, tho not much. Then there are songs that are about things that happened in the trilogy but likely do not exist as an in-universe song. These are songs based on more private events that we not only have details about but wouldn't make sense as to how it would become a song. I would say this song belongs here. The Last Herald-Mage Trilogy books are the only Valdemar books I have read so far so it will be interesting to see if other albums follow the same pattern.
@Ilora Pinkerton Magic's Price is bittersweet and it hits me pretty hard every time, but it's absolutely worth reading. I adore Stefan and how he interacts with other characters, plus you get to see the Tayledras again!
Of all the monsters made in the mage wars, the cold drake was the worst. IDk if it was of Maar's design or one of the adepts serving him fashioned it, but a cold drake is death. Magic? HA! It shed magic directed at it and attacks the mage. This is a beast made to eat mages. Only recourse is heat, which sends it into torpor. A pitchfork pierced its hide? Hog wash i say. Unless a god wielded it ,it would have bounced off the magic ice covering its hide like armour. Drop it from on high to die of the impact? Yes surely but, how do you raise it that high? Magic does not work on it directly, you cannot grasp it with magic.
Some mistake there, my good fellow. a) The events of the song are directly described in the book, so, yes, it did happen. b) Colddrakes are so though that after a certain point they forget what pain even is, so when they do experience it, it comes as a significant shock. Even what would be a pinprick. c) Colddrakes are not immune to magic, just really, really resistant, but it is possible to overpower their resistance for sufficiently strong Adept. And Van was, even untrained, scarily strong.
One mistake, vanyel didn't use node magic on the cold drake. At this point he didn't know how to use the nodes and only drew power from himself, which is why he collapsed from exhaustion after only killing 1 cold drake. Five years from this point, vanyel probably could have slain a hundred without even getting a headache
I understand that Van earned his Heraldic whites for saving the farmers from the Dragon and his battle with the evil mage who might have created the monster
The lyrics say that "distraction broke the calling", so the impression I get what that the "magic plea for help" was a magical lure sent out by the colddrake itself, to draw in more prey.
@@sidhebane nope, colddrake's are not intelligent enough for that. The broken calling was colddrake's instinctual mindmagic drawing of its prey to, as it were, enter its maw. In the universe, projecting one's mind onto and into another is sometimes referred to as 'calling'
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Ah, I do love this song. I used to associate the old man in the song with my grandfather and now that he's passed I'm crying listening to this song again. Still, a lovely story of a grandfather's courage inspiring young Vanyel to take action despite his justifiable fear.
I happened to stumble on these songs completely by accident, looking for D&D music, the songs made me buy Vanyel’s series.
Is it as good as the songs?
@@Dragonlover553 The first book of his series made me cry, but that could be because his character especially resonated with me due to similar backstories. I like her books, and frequently re-read them, but Vanyel's series is my favourite.
@@AltoSnow I had the same reason for resonating with the first book's story. I'm shay'a'chern and had parents like Vanyel. And yes, I have adopted the in-universe term, at least for the time being XD
We all know what really happened in the liberal version. He jumps on the back of the coldrakes and tries to hump it while yelling. I am not a homophobe. i am not a racist.
I plan to bring mercedes lacky's book series and their music back to light by singing it for competitions in my LARPing. It's amazing and the songs themselves are stories, but mercedes sadly wasn't a 'this time' writer. Her books were eclipsed and swept under the dust...l and while her music has an amazing following, the fact is that firebird arts is defunct in its ability to distribute, and so the music in time will be a forgotten legend. Just wait till TH-cam goes down, which it will. The people who know this music is already few in number, no one will know it even exists, except the law when it gets down to copyrights,
I happened to stumble on these songs completely by accident, looking for D&D music, the songs made me buy Vanyel’s series.
I found the music by accident and recently finished Vanyel's series this year
I heard Firebird Arts isn't legally allowed to sell the music anymore, but I recently saw it being in store again. Do you know if anything has changed?
www.firebirdarts.com/index.php?cPath=21_231&osCsid=4851444eb731a7790a56a1e9de890dab
Be SURE you have legal permission to perform!
@@bradmiller7486you replied to a 7 year old comment XD
I finally started the series the song is from it makes me love it all the more
Reading this part of Magics Pawn right now. Had to stop reading to come listen to this.
The first real glimpse of the power that Vanyel would come to harness
I see the farmer as the mother's father. It is to me the sacrifice of a parent.
Spot on: He is, in the book, specified to be her father.
I'm re-reading the trilogy, the man is the mother's grandfather
This song, The 12th Doctors final speech to the 2 Masters, and the Courage monologue from To Kill a Mockingbird. Related ideas, I think. Even if you know you'll lose, you're obligated to try and do the right thing, the help others.
Great tune!
It's sad this song isn't in the books. I just bout a full compiled trilogy of the last herald mage, I hope this was a real event in the books. Holy crap, is this whole event the dream?
In this note, can you tell me which songs never appear in the books at all, event wise? I plan to read this series and vows and honour, and arrows flight IF I get to it. I'm okay with minor spoilers, but I don't want my hopes up. I know about the windrider and sunsinger and shadowdancer songs, which are a musical tale on its own, but any others? RSVP plz
I am not sure if your questions are serious or not so I shall answer them as if they are. This particular song is based on an event close to the end of the first book in the Last Herald-Mage trilogy. While I can't tell you about the event in other trilogies as I have yet to read them myself, I do know that The Colddrake, Web of Light, Vrondi's Eyes, Hawkbrother, and Magic's Price happen is some form over the course of the Last Herald-Mage trilogy. Demonbane and Shadow Stalker are lightly touched on in the same. The rest either I haven't seen, in the case of Earth Spirit, or are bardic songs that are occasionally sung in the books. While six months is a long time to wait for an answer I thought to provide one even if it's no longer needed.
Lord Indisar This happened in the first book. Remember? When Vanyel ran away from the hawk brother's nest and stumbled upon the cold drake.
I know what you mean, but I love how the statement "...this song isn't in the books." can be taken 2 ways. From what I can tell, there are 2 basic categories that songs from this album can be put into. Note: I could be wrong, this is just how I see things at this time.
Songs that exist in the Valdemar Universe. They are the songs that get talked about by title in the books and have lyrics included at the back of Magic's Price). These songs include pre-existing songs such as My Lady's Eyes and Shadow-Lover. They also include songs based on Vanyel's life as a Herald-Mage, most of which we get little to no details about outside of the song itself. These include Shadow Stalker, Demonsbane, etc. Magic's Price also goes in this category, although we get a tiny bit more detail in the book, tho not much.
Then there are songs that are about things that happened in the trilogy but likely do not exist as an in-universe song. These are songs based on more private events that we not only have details about but wouldn't make sense as to how it would become a song. I would say this song belongs here.
The Last Herald-Mage Trilogy books are the only Valdemar books I have read so far so it will be interesting to see if other albums follow the same pattern.
@Ilora Pinkerton Magic's Price is bittersweet and it hits me pretty hard every time, but it's absolutely worth reading. I adore Stefan and how he interacts with other characters, plus you get to see the Tayledras again!
I understand that Van earned his whites by defending that family from being eaten by the ice dragon
I just got the joke at the end
where did the comment with the lyrics go? i remember there was a mistake at the end, he says 'unfroze fear's spell' instead
I don't see it. There are lyrics in the description, though.
Of all the monsters made in the mage wars, the cold drake was the worst. IDk if it was of Maar's design or one of the adepts serving him fashioned it, but a cold drake is death. Magic? HA! It shed magic directed at it and attacks the mage.
This is a beast made to eat mages. Only recourse is heat, which sends it into torpor.
A pitchfork pierced its hide? Hog wash i say. Unless a god wielded it ,it would have bounced off the magic ice covering its hide like armour.
Drop it from on high to die of the impact? Yes surely but, how do you raise it that high? Magic does not work on it directly, you cannot grasp it with magic.
Some mistake there, my good fellow.
a) The events of the song are directly described in the book, so, yes, it did happen.
b) Colddrakes are so though that after a certain point they forget what pain even is, so when they do experience it, it comes as a significant shock. Even what would be a pinprick.
c) Colddrakes are not immune to magic, just really, really resistant, but it is possible to overpower their resistance for sufficiently strong Adept. And Van was, even untrained, scarily strong.
One mistake, vanyel didn't use node magic on the cold drake. At this point he didn't know how to use the nodes and only drew power from himself, which is why he collapsed from exhaustion after only killing 1 cold drake. Five years from this point, vanyel probably could have slain a hundred without even getting a headache
I'd have to go back but I'm pretty sure Starwind said he was drawing on the Node when he attacked the cold drake queen.
@Beldandy100 No, he said he should have used the nodes so that he wouldn't collapse from exhaustion.
I mean...this was a song written by Mercedes Lackey, the author of all of the books...
@@xqiuvmahhe DID fling it up into the air tho... That takes a lot for an untrained mage even drawing on nodes
I understand that Van earned his Heraldic whites for saving the farmers from the Dragon and his battle with the evil mage who might have created the monster
Who sent the magic plea for help?
It wasn't actually a magic cry. Vanyel is also an empath (able to feel emotions) and felt their terror.
@@Xarestrill Vanyel, an empath, sensing that an old man is scared of getting eaten by a dragon. (Fr, I loved this trilogy.)
The lyrics say that "distraction broke the calling", so the impression I get what that the "magic plea for help" was a magical lure sent out by the colddrake itself, to draw in more prey.
@@sidhebane nope, colddrake's are not intelligent enough for that. The broken calling was colddrake's instinctual mindmagic drawing of its prey to, as it were, enter its maw. In the universe, projecting one's mind onto and into another is sometimes referred to as 'calling'
The mother did, though not gifted in any way