The sd-1 really is a secret weapon, the eq curve is less drastic than the ts and all 3 knobs are usable through their whole range. It also stacks fantastic before and after other overdrives, whether it’s adding grit and sustain to a transparent od or tightening up a high gain distortion, the sd-1 is the perfect 2nd od for your signal chain
@@samuelxavier2473 Yes! I stack mine with a Soul Food pedal. Gain up on the soul food, then put the SD-1 in front of it with the gain down/volume up. Sounds incredible.
Very glad Lee mentioned (at 18:08) the instantly more pleasing pedals typically don't work so well in a band situation (with fuller tones). The big lovely blooming low end is glorious for blues and sparse stuff, but once the band kicks, it just hurts everything without change. Bass gtr, toms, kick drum, keys etc etc take up all the low end space. Great video. Tough to compare ODs objectively but this was fantasic... (oh, the Rat is a great OD btw... just keep gain way way down. It didnt get a fair shake imo).
Isn't that one just a tweaked blues breaker? So it would kinda defeat the purpose of these being kinda classic originals. Then you could add the prince of tone too though...
@@clydebillingsworth8574 I think the BD-2 came before the blues breaker... and well, to me, the BD-2 sounds a lot better. I had a Blues Breaker in metallic casing for years and...just on the shelf. Didn't really like it 🙃
It was my first drive pedal ever....but I always found it a little "middy muddy"..and too much lo cut. Now, the OD-3 is seriously good overdrive. That just does the same - way better. But just to my ears 😊
@@steffenbrix Depends on what you need - the SD-1 is perfect for that 'boost a distorting amp' situation, since what you want is an aggressive low cut, but the OD-3 is best for an overdrive sound into a cleaner amp.
The SD-1 was my first pedal, I’ve never been without one since. I’ve tried posh overdrives, I always end up making them sound like the Super Overdrive. I’m a cheap date.
that was me until i got some better pedals. now the sd-1 just won't cut it. the tumnus, the kingsley jester, the precision drive by xts, the jetter gainstage red, the jt audio valveboy, lovepedal church of tone, etc. iinni⁸⅞8⁹
@@louiscyfer6944 You devil. I've had a Tumnus, it just wasn't for me, I liked it until I started hearing some clean signal mixed in, I don't like that in a drive pedal. I'm a complete Philistine, in a world of fine dining, I'm eating a Big Mac.
The Rat does three very different types of overdrive / distortion / fuzz, all depends on how much you turn the gain knob. It does a glorious boost as you’ve said.
I adore the Anderton's videos and they led me onto Josh from JHS' videos a while ago. The man is an encyclopedia!!! He did a Beringer shoot out. I was so impressed with his breakdown and his pure honesty. Having resources like Anderton's and JHS is invaluable to the community. It gives people more faith in their purchases from the two companies. Keep up the awesome work
The Tumnus Deluxe is my favorite OD by a mile, but if you prefer the Blues Breaker or King of Tone sounds, the Pantheon Deluxe is my favorite for sure. The mini Tumnus is great, but the Tumnus Deluxe is invaluable. It can be dialed in as a clean boost, a treble boost, a mid boost, low gain or higher gain toggle, maintains clarity, and has great dynamics with pick attack level. It’s just so flexible.
Can I just say I am obsessed with this series and so super obsessed with you guys. I keep sharing your channel to everyone hoping everyone will understand my obsession. Keep on doing what you guys do. Love this man.
Love the ODR-1! I used to work at Guitar Center and whenever someone came in looking for an overdrive, it was usually the first pedal I recommended. Most of the time, they ended up buying it.
I’m telling you this, I just bought the SD-1w and BD-2w and I’ll take them over any of my boutique overdrives. They have the perfect saturation. I play Indie, jangly 60’s Psych… there is one other, the Mesa Flux Drive. It’s the greatest Klon ever created, plus much more.
I love the OCD. I use it with 18v power and it's the most dynamic pedal drive I've ever used. I'm usually a "crank the amp" guy but the OCD responds very well to pick attack and your volume knob, sometimes I can keep it on all show and just roll of the volume for clean tones. I wouldn't get rid of it even if they started going for original klon money.
I am a huge fan of the OCD, too, for the exact reasons you state: back off the volume for clean and rhythm, unwind for lead. A great, classic pedal that deserves its reputation.
If I see Pete - I automatically Click (and subscribed). He is so humble, entertaining, down to earth and such a great player. The Rat sounded like "Bees in a Tuna-fish can" = all Fizzy and zero note definition. I preferred The OCD and the Black Box. oNe LoVe from NYC
The rat is great. I don't get why they try to compare the pedals and only play the rat on a high gain settings. I mean everyone knows it has more gain but the low gain settings is amazing as a low/medium gain od!
The rat is one of my favs too and I’m anything but a high gain player. The low gain and boost tones that a rat can produce are just as great as it sounds when you crank it.
My current favorite too. Into the front of my Blug guitar amp 1 Mercury vintage Chanel. Level and tone about noonish, drive almost off on 1.5 ? Wakes everything up in the mix while tightening the bass.
I bought a Tube Screamer brand-new in 1979. Used it for every gig and recording session for years. Funny thing is...at the time, no-one had heard of it, and it was considered "just a cheap Japanese pedal". But I loved it. Wish I still had it. Probably worth a few bob now too? 😊
In my teen metal band of that time me and the other guitarist both had matching jmp 100 watt master volume half stacks and tubescreamers! No way could I afford that sort of gear now!!
SD-1, so versatile... I run it into either my Matchless Lightning 15, or Princeton Reverb amps I built, and it sounds just really solid. Stacks well with a custom ODR clone with the bass cut, too.
One of your best and most useful videos! Great playing and comparing and exploring the variety of tones these pedals can produce. All without being too clinical. Proving both how unique each pedal can be and how various pedals can be used in practically identical circumstances. Excellent for beginners in overdrive and anyone who has not had the chance to play all of these types. Also, the OCD is incredibly quiet. You can get huge Rat levels of thick high gain but with virtually none of the hiss a Rat has at 98.9% same tone. Something else to consider, pedal noise. Two pedals set to low gain stacked can be quieter than one pedal cranked. I like a Timmy and an OCD for overdrives. Thanks!
2 things I noticed, you mentioned about the tube screamer needing a blend feature, however if you remember the Ibanez Nu-tube screamer has that function. I've never been a fan of the TS9, then I bought the Nu-tube version and it's way better to me, I run mine in the 18v power for more headroom and the blend know at about 1 or 2 o'clock. The other thing was the RAT , I believe it definitely falls in the the fuzz category. It's a light fuzz , but not an overdrive to me. Fantastic video, Cheers!
Great video as always - but I wish I could hear this same video with a delicious clean tone something like a Super Reverb :) The one used here sound very harsh and pokey as a clean platform. But thanks anyway!! :)
I run a Morning Glory, Tumnus, Protien and D&M dual drive. Have a Plumes and Superbolt on standby to switch out. Morning glory or tumnus are always on. Depends on what I’m playing. I have them set to give a tiny bit of color to a clean sound. I love the protein green stacked with either. Protein blue stacked with a superbolt sounds good too.
Yes, they are very different. The Tube Screamer cannot do what the Rat and the OCD do, and those pedals certainly cannot do what Tube Screamer can. I always enjoy your videos!
The MXR Badass Modified OD is a great overdrive pedal. Warm and with plenty of EQ options. It also has enough gain for a classic rock tone through a clean channel. My favorite OD.
In pre-internet times I remember discovering how a tube screamer comes alive through a slightly over driven amp rather than using a clean channel. Seems simple now, but no one really told you these things. A call off the search moment for me, didn't really need much else.
Yep. You pretty much had to meet someone in real life who would tell you this stuff. And even then, everything was an old wives tale back then. I think for a lot of us our "tone" was dictated by what we could find, rather than what we wanted. Your buddy's dad is selling his amp for $200, so that's your amp now. What's the tone like? Uhhhh it's loud! Need more distortion? The store has both kinds: DS-1 and Big Muff lol.
I remember plugging in my TS9 in my LAB amp with, purely by accident, volume maxed out and gain very low and then getting the revelation: "wow SRV tone!"
Yep. For YEARS I watched people struggle with Tube Screamers through clean channels and they always sounded, frankly, awful. Because of that I never bothered getting one. It's just not right for that. When I finally realized a better way to use it, suddenly it all made sense.
4:51 Josh is great and his JHS Pedals' TH-cam channel is very informative. But also Brian and his Wampler Pedals' channel. Josh and Brian are also very honest and civilized.
I use the TS(JHS bonsai 808) in front of a Tumnus on one board and an 808 in front of a Klon KTR on another... Sweetest combination I've ever played and I can't see myself ever giving it up. Cheers fellas!
Here’s the thing. Some pedals definitely sound almost exactly the same. There is absolute no reason to buy a vintage klon unless you just want a piece of history or bragging rights. There’s no reason to have a vintage tube screamer or vintage muff or something like that unless you like collecting things. All of those sounds can be made with much cheaper copies or even computer effects. It’s crazy now you can buy a guitar, an interface, and all the universal audio pedals and basically have every sound you’d ever need.
When you hear Pete hit a wrong note, you first think 'Argh, so he is human after all' and then 'Perhaps that's what he wants us to think'. Great and very practical video guys, I could never justify owning all of these to try them like this. Black Box and Rat for me, although I'd still like to try a Klon circuit
I went down the Klone route, my favorite is the Sugar Drive, it's got a bit more drive. If you are patient the Ceritone HorseBreaker is a fantastic pedal (more expensive though), it nails the Klon and the Marshal Bluesbreaker pedals perfectly BB first then Klon in sequence (so much I forgot you have to turn the drive on the BB side almost all the way up to get it to drive a clean amp). I've got a KTR and an original Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal to compare against as a point of reference. If my house burned down I'd just get the Sugar Drive and Nux MorningStar (JHS Morning Glory knockoff which is a Marshall BB knockoff), if money were an issue. The Belle by Wampler is fantastic too, it's 90% of the way to my Nordland (more option laden ODR pedal) and sounds like a dream. I typically play through an Ibanez TSA15 (6v6) w/ 1x12 Celestion Gold, so that helps too 😇
Even if you happen to dislike a certain classic pedal, there’s probably a song that you love that used that pedal. Or a situation where you don’t like the sound on its own but it’s great in a mix (I’m looking at you, Tube Screamer)
I think the video was helpful. I was looking away from the video the entire time and every time I turned my head up to hear which pedal sounded so sweet it was either the Rat, the OCD or the Blackbox.
I love the bluesbreaker pedal....it probably had a lot to do with the fact pete was using a strat too but when he was using the clean amp it was instant hendrix and when he was using the driven amp it was instant RATM
I know that The Capt'n is joking a bit when he questions the usefulness of a given video, but any quality video is immensely useful! There are somany videos on TH-cam that are recorded really badly and the poster barely listens back on his/her videos to ensure that the sound recorded to TH-cam is even in the ballpark with the sound in the room. Anything, where an honest effort was made, is beneficial whether for information, entertainment, or to feed or quench a case of G.A.S.! Thank you 😊
My favorite distortion pedal is the Karma MTN-10. It’s a replica of the long discontinued Ibanez Mostortion pedal which are now selling for ridiculous amounts of money on the used market. I highly recommend it.
Lotta just absolute classic pedals here that are all fantastic, but my word the RAT is just a phenomenal pedal. I love mine to death. Another one that's quickly becoming a favorite for me the the Soul Food. Nice transparent OD pedal with a great sound
I just got a rat last month and man, it is a riot of a pedal. Anything from Pink Floyd to that golden era 80's Ozzy/Dio/Sabbath and much much more. Can also be used to make your marshall tone a bit fuzzier.
Check out the Deucetone RAT, it's two RATs in one enclosure from ProCo. Graham Coxon of Blur used stacked RATs using it. It can sound like your RAT but it do much more.
a used SD-1 is about $40 over here... seems to cover it on a budget. The Rat is unstoppable, so a Rat and a SD-1 is the best bang for the buck IMO for a pair. Honorable mention to the Tumnus since it sounds great, just it is more expensive than the Rat & SD-1 combined.
Those are exactly what I have in my pedal board but the Nobles. I just change the SD1 for the SD-2 with a foot switch on it to use both channels from the pedal. This one is amazing!!! Yes, I use 6 ODs. But I still have a Fuzz on it. Before these pedals I have a tuner, the classic Cry Baby Wah and a compressor from Boss. After those drives there's a booster, phaser, chorus, flanger, delay and a reverb in the end. I love to mix all those drives. They all sound cool with single or humbucker pickups. I just didn't say the RAT and the booster are handmade clones with some mods. How I wish I could be there with you guys. Thanks for the video! Regards from Rio
I did a similar comparison with my own rig last month. I was surprised how close I was able to get some of my dissimilar drive pedals to sound close to (or essentially the same) as my Klone!
Ah.... But I do run both the Boss SD-1 & the Tube Screamer (mine is the TS-9). I set them a little different...and they work so well with the SD-1 on and hitting the front end of the Tube Screamer. That is my boost! That said..... I could dial in a great tone on any of them....just you guys have. The Wonderful World of Overdrive!
C for Captain and C for Conservative. Just can't believe you did not hit all seven pedals on. Yeah you blew it bro. You could have created a real original sound. Great video, the captain needs to learn to hit more than two pedals at a time. I can see it now, The new pedal from boss call The Seven Stack. Seven classic stacked overdrives all in one pedal, As seen on the Adertons Video. PS. I think all these pedals sound better when you use your foot to switch, and not your index finger. I mean come on guys, there all foot pedals. Love it, but put them all on at the same time and ROCK.
To add to your comments about the Tumnus: at home when playing thru it i really wasnt “getting” it and was, admittedely, disappointed. My friend was going to buy it from me after some shows we were doing. Had rented fender deluxe backline and just couldnt get it to cut thru the band. On a lark, took out the tumnus was going to sell and BAM! Holy cow did it work. Great sound, great tone. Refused to sell and now it’s my live secret weapon. But at home it just isnt that “fun”.
What about the Bad Monkey. Best live pedal for most sounds. Or the Guvnor which is great - I built a point to point clone and it’s even better. What gets ignored in most of these comparison videos is that some pedals sound great at bedroom levels but lots don’t work when you turn up the level to use in live gigs or rehearsal rooms. Fun video.
I'm an SD1 fan. I use it to shape a sovtek big muff and to fatten up my "clean" tone. If I want to, I can crank it and get near enough distortion from it. It's a better tube screamer in my opinion.
Boys, you can dial in your preferred sound with each of these pedals. I think that may be why, as you say, Lee, at the end of each video, you arrive at the conclusion, that whichever pedals present in today’s test, sound similar. They do have distinct characters and characteristics or emphasis. They will inspire or encourage different playing styles. Some are better on clean, than others. Same on a edge of break up base, or amp pushed passed that point even. All good. Love the variety. Great video as always. Godt spillet, Peter, som altid 👍🏻
in the end i wasn't sure which i'dprefer...but i have learned that Pete buys his pedals at Thomanns and from Tescos car park...(!!!!??)....yep a word please pete....after the video....yes....😅
I've owned versions of all of these. My personal opinion is: - Boss SD-1: Iconic, but not their best dirt pedal. I prefer the Blues Driver on the cleaner end and the Turbo Distortion on the dirtier end. - Tube Screamer: Used to be my main overdrive, but I agree with Pete that it's nasal-y. I also agree with him that it's fantastic as a boost on an already distorted signal. - RAT: It's not for me. Way too fizzy. I love a lot of '80s and '90s indie bands that use RATs, but it's the wrong sound for most genres. - Blues Breaker: An amazingly versatile pedal. I own a JHS Morning Glory and a Wampler Pantheon. The Morning Glory has the best pure tone to me, but the Pantheon can do more (including get shockingly thick/heavy). - Klon: I love this pedal, but you have to know how to use it. Like Josh Scott says, you need to turn up the gain to about 1 o'clock to get Bill Finnegan's intended sound. You also need to turn up your amp. It does not sound good at bedroom levels; it sounds heavenly at stage levels. - ODR-1: I own and love this pedal, but I have the one with the bass cut switch, and that is crucial when playing live. An amazing sound I've found is sending an ODR-1 (bass cut on) into a Klone. - OCD: I owned one of these for years, and it was wrong for every band I played in except for one (the heaviest one). Of all the pedals on here, it's the best option for getting super heavy with just one pedal (no stacking). But in the real world, you probably want to get your heaviest sounds by stacking two lighter gain pedals that you can also use a la carte. Having cycled through all of these, I now use a JHS Morning Glory (Blues Breaker circuit) into an ODR-1 with bass cut into a J. Rockett Archer (Klone). My Tube Screamer is in the closet in case I need it. Sold the others.
after having tried more than fifty pedals I play on the vemuram nothing better. morning glory i still have it she is nice. the ts808 I really like it is on my pedalboard with the jan ray.
Wow, great analysis. Have you tried any of the Catalinbread stuff. Would love you thoughts on the RAH and the DLS. I am thinking of getting one of them. Thanks
@@lostfound4330 Thank you! I don't own either of those pedals, but I played through a friend's Dirty Little Secret and really liked it. I think it would come down to whether you like Marshall sounds in general (DLS) or Jimmy Page Marshall tones specifically (RAH). For me personally, I'd go with the former. But I also think the most versatile setup is one where you have two or three overdrives that stack well together. That gives you an array of options. I think a Blues Breaker style pedal (whether that's a Morning Glory, Blackbox, Pantheon, etc.) makes sense on any board, and then you can pair that with something that's a bit higher gain, including something like a DLS. I also think that when you're at stage volume and the amp is pretty loud, a little overdrive goes a long way. Something that seemed like "light" gain at bedroom levels turns out to be a lot more gnarly when the amp is cranked.
I've always been a low gain/edge of breakup kind of guy and managed without a distortion for years. I opted for a Turborat clone to fill the gap instead of the classic DS-1 and I'm so glad I did. At low gain it's one of my favourite ODs; it'd be my sole choice for noise on a minimalist board.
Ive often said that all anyone needs is any decent overdrive and an 6 to 10 band EQ pedal to tune it the frequencies you want and you can get pretty much any tone you want.
@@KF-cy9ei he has done plenty of things just google it I ain’t tyrna get into it but aside from being a complete dick to customers and small business owners he has had multiple instances of backlash from the guitar community - the most recent one being political. It was bad enough reverb no longer allowed the sale of new fulltone products and donated the proceeds of used fulltone products
Recently bought a Ltd Edition Nobels ODR1 2021 (with Bass Cut switch) for 80 quid. Sounds killer 🔥 stayed on my board since it arrived and she's not going anywhere. Have my eye on a Hudson Broadcast dual now. 👌
All these pedals are great, but the Rat stands distinctly apart from the others. You can get that really smooth, compressed, high gain overdrive, with none of the harshness you will often find in many high gain/distortion pedals or with the high gain settings on a lot of amps. Perfect for classic and 80's rock. I think you can chug with it, as well.
I have a Wildwood Mjulnir and it is amazing. It adds more goodness or heavier overdrive. Very controllable. Also have a Fulldrive 10th Anniversary - excellent/Tube Screamer HW - excellent/Keeley Ox Blood - still testing it.
Enjoy it. I really like it. Believe it or not I used to live down the block from Bill Finnegan (Klon) in Boston in the 90s. I wanted a Klon. Some people I knew were using them in a band called Schleigho. I never got one. At over $200 it was too expensive for me at the time. The Wildwood pedal is very well built and sounds great. Tried it with Boogie, Swart, Carr, and Dr. Z. All good. @@johnanderson60
Great video - one of your best. After hearing one pedal, I thought, Oh my God, thats my favourite, but then, then next, one, and the next one... all sounded AMAZING (especially with Pete's playing. BUT - you are missing the Blues Driver from that likneup of classic Overdrives. Even though you have a BOSS there, you needed the other one too. Othwise, fantistic video.
OK, I thought they'd all sound the same and they don't. You guys showed me :) Please keep Pete. He knows stuff! No more Chappers, ever. I'll stay subscribed unless you bring him back.
For metal, the TS808 is a fantastic pedal to put in front of a distortion pedal. I use it in front of a Revv G3 to add a bit of fizz to the higher end of the distortion. It takes the G3, which is fantastic by itself, and makes it even better.
I play Vox amps which already have a hi mid hump, so I tend not to like pedals that have mid humps as well (screamer, klons, SD-1) my favorite sound into a Vox is a rat (more scooped sound) into a transparent blues breaker type pedal. Such a fun and versatile combo
32:28 My Rat clone sounds great as an edge-of-breakup overdrive with the distortion set to around 9.00, especially in Turbo-rat mode (LED clipping) - Frustrating to see Lee never drop the gain below 10.00! I can't help but feel the Rat got a bit misrepresented here besides I'd consider it more a distortion pedal than an overdrive. The classic Blues Driver would've been a better fit here for comparison.
I bought a used sd1 for my first drive pedal and it actually has the kealy mod that supposedly makes it sound like an 808, I've always wanted to find out the difference and this helped! Thank you!
The difference between TS 808 and SD-1 is the symmetrical vs non-symmetrical clipping diodes so maybe that. Brian Wampler did an interesting video about converting at SD1 to a TS808 that explains it in detail th-cam.com/video/kWTrXkQS-50/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WamplerPedals
@@monstercrx thank you, I checked out a couple of videos that said the same thing. The pedal sounds good it's just actually hearing the difference and putting it all together.
I play a clean amp. I have the SD-1 gain almost off with the level all the way up running into the Nobels ODR1. The gain on that pedal is set to about 7, level and spectrum are about 6 to 7, as well. If I just want the clean sound, I kick off the ODR1 and play with just the SD1. It really works for me. I also have on my board a Friedman OB which has plenty of gain, becomes a heavy distortion. Thanks for the video, as I think I may have to check out the Black Box and another go at the OCD.
That was a GREAT video, guys. I could tell you really wanted to do this and enjoyed filming. If I had to pick my favourite out of these, I would probably go with Pete and pick the BlackBox. Sounded awesome with the Strat.
The sd-1 really is a secret weapon, the eq curve is less drastic than the ts and all 3 knobs are usable through their whole range. It also stacks fantastic before and after other overdrives, whether it’s adding grit and sustain to a transparent od or tightening up a high gain distortion, the sd-1 is the perfect 2nd od for your signal chain
and it's WAYY louder than a TS9. Perfect for boosting
I post a similar comment on almost all overdrive pedal videos lol Everyone deserves to have an SD-1.
Sounds good stacked with a BD-2. Either one first, they work well together.
@@HIGHTOP203 didnt know that, cool
@@samuelxavier2473 Yes! I stack mine with a Soul Food pedal. Gain up on the soul food, then put the SD-1 in front of it with the gain down/volume up. Sounds incredible.
Very glad Lee mentioned (at 18:08) the instantly more pleasing pedals typically don't work so well in a band situation (with fuller tones). The big lovely blooming low end is glorious for blues and sparse stuff, but once the band kicks, it just hurts everything without change. Bass gtr, toms, kick drum, keys etc etc take up all the low end space. Great video. Tough to compare ODs objectively but this was fantasic... (oh, the Rat is a great OD btw... just keep gain way way down. It didnt get a fair shake imo).
I think that the boss blues driver should be here!! Nice video
absolutely should
Yes
Isn't that one just a tweaked blues breaker? So it would kinda defeat the purpose of these being kinda classic originals. Then you could add the prince of tone too though...
@@clydebillingsworth8574 it’s definitely not a blues breaker circuit, completely different.
@@clydebillingsworth8574 I think the BD-2 came before the blues breaker... and well, to me, the BD-2 sounds a lot better.
I had a Blues Breaker in metallic casing for years and...just on the shelf. Didn't really like it 🙃
The Black Box rocks my ears every time. The Rat is timeless. I know them all and I still loved it. Great job, gentlemen.
SD-1 is in a category of things that are extremely famous and yet still underrated.
It was my first drive pedal ever....but I always found it a little "middy muddy"..and too much lo cut. Now, the OD-3 is seriously good overdrive. That just does the same - way better.
But just to my ears 😊
@@steffenbrix Depends on what you need - the SD-1 is perfect for that 'boost a distorting amp' situation, since what you want is an aggressive low cut, but the OD-3 is best for an overdrive sound into a cleaner amp.
If you own a Marshall amp.... you must have an SD-1. Simple as that.
Though I respect it, I never got along with it. I think the BD-1 is much more flexible and "better", as far as Boss overdrives go.
You're right, i love it
The SD-1 was my first pedal, I’ve never been without one since. I’ve tried posh overdrives, I always end up making them sound like the Super Overdrive.
I’m a cheap date.
My First One tooo
The SD-1 is like the small-block Chevy V8 of overdrive pedals. It's easy to work with and it just plain works.
Well it's the first and only od pedal I've ever had, or needed, but that black box sounded really good...
that was me until i got some better pedals. now the sd-1 just won't cut it. the tumnus, the kingsley jester, the precision drive by xts, the jetter gainstage red, the jt audio valveboy, lovepedal church of tone, etc. iinni⁸⅞8⁹
@@louiscyfer6944 You devil. I've had a Tumnus, it just wasn't for me, I liked it until I started hearing some clean signal mixed in, I don't like that in a drive pedal. I'm a complete Philistine, in a world of fine dining, I'm eating a Big Mac.
As a guitar player that mainly does metal, boosting my Marshall with my SD1 is one of my favourite tones ever.
SD-1 + JCM800 = godmode
The SD1 is the real secret weapon! $49 and almost any amp sounds the bomb diggity.
@@benlogan430 I even use it in front of my MFX units from time to time. Adds a lot to the digital amp models.
Hard agree, sounds awesome - I think Zakk Wylde used a similar setup at one point?
I wish I have a marshall to boost... Lucky you
Nobody thinks to turn gain on the Rat down, but it sounds great with gain on zero. I wonder why they didn't do that here.
Agree, the Rat is great at all gain levels. Tube screamer into a low to mid gain Rat is glorious. Together, they're a better Crunch Box.
A great circuit!
100, shame they didnt compare the RAT at low gain, sounds great
The Rat does three very different types of overdrive / distortion / fuzz, all depends on how much you turn the gain knob. It does a glorious boost as you’ve said.
Dave Gilmour had it at 1 or 2. I never turn mine up past 10 o'clock.
The little Wampler pedal was the one that did it for me. Then the SD1. I have a Dumble pedal, it is my favourite, then my Blues Driver.
“I bought that from Thomann” said Pete. The camera fades to black and returns with digital John and the Captain to finish the video 😉
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😂🤚🏼
,,,and he shall never be seen again!" :D
Pete Honore found hanging upside down in a forgotten dungeon somewhere!
I use a Tumnus as an always-on pedal in front of the EQ Palisades. Sounds amazing with my Mesa Tremoverb and Sunn Model T. Great for heavy rock/metal!
I adore the Anderton's videos and they led me onto Josh from JHS' videos a while ago. The man is an encyclopedia!!! He did a Beringer shoot out. I was so impressed with his breakdown and his pure honesty. Having resources like Anderton's and JHS is invaluable to the community. It gives people more faith in their purchases from the two companies. Keep up the awesome work
The Tumnus Deluxe is my favorite OD by a mile, but if you prefer the Blues Breaker or King of Tone sounds, the Pantheon Deluxe is my favorite for sure. The mini Tumnus is great, but the Tumnus Deluxe is invaluable. It can be dialed in as a clean boost, a treble boost, a mid boost, low gain or higher gain toggle, maintains clarity, and has great dynamics with pick attack level. It’s just so flexible.
About the only thing wrong with the Tumnus was when it tried to betray Lucy to the Ice Queen! 😊.... Uhhhh, I'll see my way out! 😳
I really liked that sound too, more rock less bluesy.
The Tumnus is the best drive pedal I've ever had. And I've had a lot - even stupidly valve-driven units. The Tumnus pisses on them all IMHO.
Can I just say I am obsessed with this series and so super obsessed with you guys. I keep sharing your channel to everyone hoping everyone will understand my obsession. Keep on doing what you guys do. Love this man.
Love the ODR-1! I used to work at Guitar Center and whenever someone came in looking for an overdrive, it was usually the first pedal I recommended. Most of the time, they ended up buying it.
All the pedals sounded good. This was a very useful comparison. I particularly liked the tone shaping capabilities of the ODR-1. Thanks
I’m telling you this, I just bought the SD-1w and BD-2w and I’ll take them over any of my boutique overdrives. They have the perfect saturation. I play Indie, jangly 60’s Psych… there is one other, the Mesa Flux Drive. It’s the greatest Klon ever created, plus much more.
I love the OCD. I use it with 18v power and it's the most dynamic pedal drive I've ever used. I'm usually a "crank the amp" guy but the OCD responds very well to pick attack and your volume knob, sometimes I can keep it on all show and just roll of the volume for clean tones. I wouldn't get rid of it even if they started going for original klon money.
I am a huge fan of the OCD, too, for the exact reasons you state: back off the volume for clean and rhythm, unwind for lead. A great, classic pedal that deserves its reputation.
If I see Pete - I automatically Click (and subscribed). He is so humble, entertaining, down to earth and such a great player. The Rat sounded like "Bees in a Tuna-fish can" = all Fizzy and zero note definition. I preferred The OCD and the Black Box. oNe LoVe from NYC
i love the rat so much! the ODR-1 as well. The Rat is such a fun and versatile pedal; from boost, to low gain, to cranked marshall, to doom. love it.
The rat is great. I don't get why they try to compare the pedals and only play the rat on a high gain settings. I mean everyone knows it has more gain but the low gain settings is amazing as a low/medium gain od!
@@antonudd849 totally agree, even though the SD-1 is my favourite, the RAT would be my pedal of choice if I could only have one dirt pedal.
The rat is one of my favs too and I’m anything but a high gain player. The low gain and boost tones that a rat can produce are just as great as it sounds when you crank it.
ODR-1 is the absolute king!
Great video, but I think the Boss Bluesdriver should have been included. Might be my favorite OD at the moment.
@@MacMFer Don't things like that always change? What else would keep the pedal companies in business?
My current favorite too. Into the front of my Blug guitar amp 1 Mercury vintage Chanel. Level and tone about noonish, drive almost off on 1.5 ? Wakes everything up in the mix while tightening the bass.
25:34 this tone here is my favorite in the whole video, its just pure rock n roll, I love it 🤘🎸
Yes sir. I think the ODR-1 is the best pedal out of the bunch by a mile.
For me, I stack, the LovePedal Tchula into the Nobles ODR-1, it’s quite a sound. Thanks for the upload, I really enjoy this vids
I bought a Tube Screamer brand-new in 1979.
Used it for every gig and recording session for years.
Funny thing is...at the time, no-one had heard of it, and it was considered "just a cheap Japanese pedal".
But I loved it.
Wish I still had it.
Probably worth a few bob now too? 😊
In my teen metal band of that time me and the other guitarist both had matching jmp 100 watt master volume half stacks and tubescreamers! No way could I afford that sort of gear now!!
SD-1, so versatile... I run it into either my Matchless Lightning 15, or Princeton Reverb amps I built, and it sounds just really solid. Stacks well with a custom ODR clone with the bass cut, too.
Funny, a video that proves many overdrives are capable of very similar sounds, and my response is “oooooohhh, I really need that one.”
When Pete flicks on the neck pickup at 24:17, I got on my own Guitar Face! That was my favourite tone of the video.
One of your best and most useful videos! Great playing and comparing and exploring the variety of tones these pedals can produce. All without being too clinical. Proving both how unique each pedal can be and how various pedals can be used in practically identical circumstances.
Excellent for beginners in overdrive and anyone who has not had the chance to play all of these types. Also, the OCD is incredibly quiet. You can get huge Rat levels of thick high gain but with virtually none of the hiss a Rat has at 98.9% same tone. Something else to consider, pedal noise. Two pedals set to low gain stacked can be quieter than one pedal cranked. I like a Timmy and an OCD for overdrives. Thanks!
agree... very useful. A similar one on classic fuzz pedals would be great too
2 things I noticed, you mentioned about the tube screamer needing a blend feature, however if you remember the Ibanez Nu-tube screamer has that function. I've never been a fan of the TS9, then I bought the Nu-tube version and it's way better to me, I run mine in the 18v power for more headroom and the blend know at about 1 or 2 o'clock.
The other thing was the RAT , I believe it definitely falls in the the fuzz category. It's a light fuzz , but not an overdrive to me. Fantastic video, Cheers!
I recently picked up a Rat and was really surprised at how really versatile it is.👍🏻
Overdrive, distortion, and fuzz all in one. Its a fantastic circuit.
It really is!! Wish I had gotten it long ago.
@@Craig_Fussell I bought one in 1988 and it still is a go to for me
Really fantastic pedal
Great video as always - but I wish I could hear this same video with a delicious clean tone something like a Super Reverb :)
The one used here sound very harsh and pokey as a clean platform. But thanks anyway!! :)
I run a Morning Glory, Tumnus, Protien and D&M dual drive. Have a Plumes and Superbolt on standby to switch out. Morning glory or tumnus are always on. Depends on what I’m playing. I have them set to give a tiny bit of color to a clean sound. I love the protein green stacked with either. Protein blue stacked with a superbolt sounds good too.
I sent this video to a buddy of mine who was asking me what overdrive pedal he should buy. Thank you guys again. Right in the nick of time!
SD1 is my favourite OD pedal! It sounds so much more organic than anything green...
It's good for organic, but the RAT is best for inorganic!
@@jkf9167 that's why I have both on my board ;)
its literally a yellow tube screamer same circuitry and everything lol. the sd 1 has asymmetrical clipping and im p sure thats the only difference
Rat and SD 1... The preferred choice here it seems... I cannot disagree. I use both...
The blackbox sounds awesome
Yes, they are very different. The Tube Screamer cannot do what the Rat and the OCD do, and those pedals certainly cannot do what Tube Screamer can. I always enjoy your videos!
The MXR Badass Modified OD is a great overdrive pedal. Warm and with plenty of EQ options. It also has enough gain for a classic rock tone through a clean channel. My favorite OD.
In pre-internet times I remember discovering how a tube screamer comes alive through a slightly over driven amp rather than using a clean channel. Seems simple now, but no one really told you these things. A call off the search moment for me, didn't really need much else.
Yep. You pretty much had to meet someone in real life who would tell you this stuff. And even then, everything was an old wives tale back then. I think for a lot of us our "tone" was dictated by what we could find, rather than what we wanted. Your buddy's dad is selling his amp for $200, so that's your amp now. What's the tone like? Uhhhh it's loud! Need more distortion? The store has both kinds: DS-1 and Big Muff lol.
I remember plugging in my TS9 in my LAB amp with, purely by accident, volume maxed out and gain very low and then getting the revelation: "wow SRV tone!"
Exactly dude!!!
Yep. For YEARS I watched people struggle with Tube Screamers through clean channels and they always sounded, frankly, awful. Because of that I never bothered getting one. It's just not right for that. When I finally realized a better way to use it, suddenly it all made sense.
4:51 Josh is great and his JHS Pedals' TH-cam channel is very informative. But also Brian and his Wampler Pedals' channel.
Josh and Brian are also very honest and civilized.
I use the TS(JHS bonsai 808) in front of a Tumnus on one board and an 808 in front of a Klon KTR on another... Sweetest combination I've ever played and I can't see myself ever giving it up. Cheers fellas!
LOL I saw you thinking about making this video when you were changing up your board. Glad you decided to make this!
Here’s the thing. Some pedals definitely sound almost exactly the same. There is absolute no reason to buy a vintage klon unless you just want a piece of history or bragging rights. There’s no reason to have a vintage tube screamer or vintage muff or something like that unless you like collecting things. All of those sounds can be made with much cheaper copies or even computer effects. It’s crazy now you can buy a guitar, an interface, and all the universal audio pedals and basically have every sound you’d ever need.
When you hear Pete hit a wrong note, you first think 'Argh, so he is human after all' and then 'Perhaps that's what he wants us to think'. Great and very practical video guys, I could never justify owning all of these to try them like this. Black Box and Rat for me, although I'd still like to try a Klon circuit
I went down the Klone route, my favorite is the Sugar Drive, it's got a bit more drive. If you are patient the Ceritone HorseBreaker is a fantastic pedal (more expensive though), it nails the Klon and the Marshal Bluesbreaker pedals perfectly BB first then Klon in sequence (so much I forgot you have to turn the drive on the BB side almost all the way up to get it to drive a clean amp). I've got a KTR and an original Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal to compare against as a point of reference.
If my house burned down I'd just get the Sugar Drive and Nux MorningStar (JHS Morning Glory knockoff which is a Marshall BB knockoff), if money were an issue. The Belle by Wampler is fantastic too, it's 90% of the way to my Nordland (more option laden ODR pedal) and sounds like a dream. I typically play through an Ibanez TSA15 (6v6) w/ 1x12 Celestion Gold, so that helps too 😇
Even if you happen to dislike a certain classic pedal, there’s probably a song that you love that used that pedal. Or a situation where you don’t like the sound on its own but it’s great in a mix (I’m looking at you, Tube Screamer)
But remember these didn’t come out until the late 70s , so most classic songs were just an actually overdriven amp.
Yeah the Tube Screamer. Actually awful, went for a Boss Turbo overdrive instead. Lovely.
The end with the black box and OCD together was brilliant! best of the bunch.
I think the video was helpful. I was looking away from the video the entire time and every time I turned my head up to hear which pedal sounded so sweet it was either the Rat, the OCD or the Blackbox.
My JHS Pulp N Peel v3 Compressor has a RAT built into it & can switch on or off. It’s amazing.
I love the bluesbreaker pedal....it probably had a lot to do with the fact pete was using a strat too but when he was using the clean amp it was instant hendrix and when he was using the driven amp it was instant RATM
I know that The Capt'n is joking a bit when he questions the usefulness of a given video, but any quality video is immensely useful! There are somany videos on TH-cam that are recorded really badly and the poster barely listens back on his/her videos to ensure that the sound recorded to TH-cam is even in the ballpark with the sound in the room. Anything, where an honest effort was made, is beneficial whether for information, entertainment, or to feed or quench a case of G.A.S.! Thank you 😊
It never ceases to amaze me how many people remember and make clones of the Marshall Bluesbreaker but you never hear about clones of the Guv'nor.
There are Guv'nor clones, JHS angry Charlie, Danelectro Daddy-O are two I can think of
That's because the Guv'nor was shite.
No one even makes a clone of the Guv'nor. They are impossible to find.
Angry Charlie is a bit modified and the Daddy O is out of production unfortunately.
@@OccamsEraserhead as a naive teenager I bought a guvnor plus. I agree, a shite sound! Kind of OK for lead, but sooooooo many better options.
My favorite distortion pedal is the Karma MTN-10. It’s a replica of the long discontinued Ibanez Mostortion pedal which are now selling for ridiculous amounts of money on the used market. I highly recommend it.
I have this pedal and it sounds amazing stacked with any of these other pedals.
oddly enough I just ordered a couple different ones myself. I was trying to figure this out. I haven't watched yet but stoked to do so
Lotta just absolute classic pedals here that are all fantastic, but my word the RAT is just a phenomenal pedal. I love mine to death. Another one that's quickly becoming a favorite for me the the Soul Food. Nice transparent OD pedal with a great sound
I just got a rat last month and man, it is a riot of a pedal. Anything from Pink Floyd to that golden era 80's Ozzy/Dio/Sabbath and much much more. Can also be used to make your marshall tone a bit fuzzier.
Check out the Deucetone RAT, it's two RATs in one enclosure from ProCo. Graham Coxon of Blur used stacked RATs using it. It can sound like your RAT but it do much more.
a used SD-1 is about $40 over here... seems to cover it on a budget. The Rat is unstoppable, so a Rat and a SD-1 is the best bang for the buck IMO for a pair. Honorable mention to the Tumnus since it sounds great, just it is more expensive than the Rat & SD-1 combined.
Those are exactly what I have in my pedal board but the Nobles.
I just change the SD1 for the SD-2 with a foot switch on it to use both channels from the pedal.
This one is amazing!!!
Yes, I use 6 ODs.
But I still have a Fuzz on it.
Before these pedals I have a tuner, the classic Cry Baby Wah and a compressor from Boss.
After those drives there's a booster, phaser, chorus, flanger, delay and a reverb in the end.
I love to mix all those drives.
They all sound cool with single or humbucker pickups.
I just didn't say the RAT and the booster are handmade clones with some mods.
How I wish I could be there with you guys.
Thanks for the video!
Regards from Rio
I did a similar comparison with my own rig last month. I was surprised how close I was able to get some of my dissimilar drive pedals to sound close to (or essentially the same) as my Klone!
I never realized…how do you guys not have a million subs yet!? Wake up people jeeeeeez
Great show guys …
Tumnus into the OCD …👍
Black box fur blues thx
Dig it man….
Ah.... But I do run both the Boss SD-1 & the Tube Screamer (mine is the TS-9). I set them a little different...and they work so well with the SD-1 on and hitting the front end of the Tube Screamer. That is my boost! That said..... I could dial in a great tone on any of them....just you guys have. The Wonderful World of Overdrive!
I used to run the SD-1 into the ODR-1 all the time. THAT is a great combo. Of course my SD-1 is a Keeley modified, but still.
C for Captain and C for Conservative. Just can't believe you did not hit all seven pedals on. Yeah you blew it bro. You could have created a real original sound. Great video, the captain needs to learn to hit more than two pedals at a time. I can see it now, The new pedal from boss call The Seven Stack. Seven classic stacked overdrives all in one pedal, As seen on the Adertons Video. PS. I think all these pedals sound better when you use your foot to switch, and not your index finger. I mean come on guys, there all foot pedals. Love it, but put them all on at the same time and ROCK.
To add to your comments about the Tumnus: at home when playing thru it i really wasnt “getting” it and was, admittedely, disappointed. My friend was going to buy it from me after some shows we were doing. Had rented fender deluxe backline and just couldnt get it to cut thru the band. On a lark, took out the tumnus was going to sell and BAM! Holy cow did it work. Great sound, great tone. Refused to sell and now it’s my live secret weapon. But at home it just isnt that “fun”.
ive had an ocd on my board since my first board in 2006
Tumnus, backed off a bit, into the Black Box.😃 great video.
These videos are so comfy. Please keep doing them, you guys are great
What about the Bad Monkey. Best live pedal for most sounds. Or the Guvnor which is great - I built a point to point clone and it’s even better. What gets ignored in most of these comparison videos is that some pedals sound great at bedroom levels but lots don’t work when you turn up the level to use in live gigs or rehearsal rooms. Fun video.
I'm an SD1 fan. I use it to shape a sovtek big muff and to fatten up my "clean" tone. If I want to, I can crank it and get near enough distortion from it.
It's a better tube screamer in my opinion.
Boys, you can dial in your preferred sound with each of these pedals. I think that may be why, as you say, Lee, at the end of each video, you arrive at the conclusion, that whichever pedals present in today’s test, sound similar.
They do have distinct characters and characteristics or emphasis. They will inspire or encourage different playing styles. Some are better on clean, than others. Same on a edge of break up base, or amp pushed passed that point even.
All good. Love the variety. Great video as always. Godt spillet, Peter, som altid 👍🏻
The Nobels is the most unique of these 7. But overall they all sound really really close.
SD-1 into the OCD is a win.
Also, High/low toggle on the OCD is not “power” it’s a high pass filter or low pass filter. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Hidden Gem: MXR Classic Overdrive (SD-1 as well)
Favorite Pedal: ODR-1
Fun Combo: Rat with a Klone boost behind it
The Essential: An amp you love.
I like to look for the best with each type. You got your mosfets, diode clipping, op-amp, germanium and more. It's a candy store!
in the end i wasn't sure which i'dprefer...but i have learned that Pete buys his pedals at Thomanns and from Tescos car park...(!!!!??)....yep
a word please pete....after the video....yes....😅
The Rat is such a classic pedal, if I could have one it would be that
I've owned versions of all of these. My personal opinion is:
- Boss SD-1: Iconic, but not their best dirt pedal. I prefer the Blues Driver on the cleaner end and the Turbo Distortion on the dirtier end.
- Tube Screamer: Used to be my main overdrive, but I agree with Pete that it's nasal-y. I also agree with him that it's fantastic as a boost on an already distorted signal.
- RAT: It's not for me. Way too fizzy. I love a lot of '80s and '90s indie bands that use RATs, but it's the wrong sound for most genres.
- Blues Breaker: An amazingly versatile pedal. I own a JHS Morning Glory and a Wampler Pantheon. The Morning Glory has the best pure tone to me, but the Pantheon can do more (including get shockingly thick/heavy).
- Klon: I love this pedal, but you have to know how to use it. Like Josh Scott says, you need to turn up the gain to about 1 o'clock to get Bill Finnegan's intended sound. You also need to turn up your amp. It does not sound good at bedroom levels; it sounds heavenly at stage levels.
- ODR-1: I own and love this pedal, but I have the one with the bass cut switch, and that is crucial when playing live. An amazing sound I've found is sending an ODR-1 (bass cut on) into a Klone.
- OCD: I owned one of these for years, and it was wrong for every band I played in except for one (the heaviest one). Of all the pedals on here, it's the best option for getting super heavy with just one pedal (no stacking). But in the real world, you probably want to get your heaviest sounds by stacking two lighter gain pedals that you can also use a la carte.
Having cycled through all of these, I now use a JHS Morning Glory (Blues Breaker circuit) into an ODR-1 with bass cut into a J. Rockett Archer (Klone). My Tube Screamer is in the closet in case I need it. Sold the others.
after having tried more than fifty pedals I play on the vemuram nothing better.
morning glory i still have it she is nice.
the ts808 I really like it is on my pedalboard with the jan ray.
Wow, great analysis. Have you tried any of the Catalinbread stuff. Would love you thoughts on the RAH and the DLS. I am thinking of getting one of them.
Thanks
@@lostfound4330 Thank you! I don't own either of those pedals, but I played through a friend's Dirty Little Secret and really liked it. I think it would come down to whether you like Marshall sounds in general (DLS) or Jimmy Page Marshall tones specifically (RAH). For me personally, I'd go with the former.
But I also think the most versatile setup is one where you have two or three overdrives that stack well together. That gives you an array of options. I think a Blues Breaker style pedal (whether that's a Morning Glory, Blackbox, Pantheon, etc.) makes sense on any board, and then you can pair that with something that's a bit higher gain, including something like a DLS.
I also think that when you're at stage volume and the amp is pretty loud, a little overdrive goes a long way. Something that seemed like "light" gain at bedroom levels turns out to be a lot more gnarly when the amp is cranked.
Since I proudly grew up in the Atlanta area, mad respect for the Outkast reference ✌🏻
OCD is my favorite but I never use the HP mode. Just love it for a boost
The Proco rat sure has a “smashing pumpkins “ vibe going on here with that strat combo!
I've always been a low gain/edge of breakup kind of guy and managed without a distortion for years. I opted for a Turborat clone to fill the gap instead of the classic DS-1 and I'm so glad I did. At low gain it's one of my favourite ODs; it'd be my sole choice for noise on a minimalist board.
Ive often said that all anyone needs is any decent overdrive and an 6 to 10 band EQ pedal to tune it the frequencies you want and you can get pretty much any tone you want.
The OCD is one of the best ever, but it does seem to get overlooked a bit in the current landscape of awesome pedals.
The owner doesn’t help
@@隠れた ?
@@castrucciocastracani0 the owner of fulltone is a huge reason his pedals are overlooked
@@隠れた why? What did he do?
@@KF-cy9ei he has done plenty of things just google it I ain’t tyrna get into it but aside from being a complete dick to customers and small business owners he has had multiple instances of backlash from the guitar community - the most recent one being political. It was bad enough reverb no longer allowed the sale of new fulltone products and donated the proceeds of used fulltone products
Recently bought a Ltd Edition Nobels ODR1 2021 (with Bass Cut switch) for 80 quid.
Sounds killer 🔥 stayed on my board since it arrived and she's not going anywhere.
Have my eye on a Hudson Broadcast dual now. 👌
I'm 1 minute, who is the editor for this video??? Make them permanent and pay them double, this is amazing 😂😂😂😂
All these pedals are great, but the Rat stands distinctly apart from the others. You can get that really smooth, compressed, high gain overdrive, with none of the harshness you will often find in many high gain/distortion pedals or with the high gain settings on a lot of amps. Perfect for classic and 80's rock. I think you can chug with it, as well.
Is the rat an overdrive? I always thought it was distortion
Depends how high you turn the gain control
I have one from the ‘80’s. Love it.
Yep … it’s a distortion pedal.
Buy them all. Classic 🤘
I have a Wildwood Mjulnir and it is amazing. It adds more goodness or heavier overdrive. Very controllable. Also have a Fulldrive 10th Anniversary - excellent/Tube Screamer HW - excellent/Keeley Ox Blood - still testing it.
I just ordered the Wildwood Mjulnir and expect it in this week. I so look forward to a long holiday weekend to dial it in my rig.
Enjoy it. I really like it. Believe it or not I used to live down the block from Bill Finnegan (Klon) in Boston in the 90s. I wanted a Klon. Some people I knew were using them in a band called Schleigho. I never got one. At over $200 it was too expensive for me at the time. The Wildwood pedal is very well built and sounds great. Tried it with Boogie, Swart, Carr, and Dr. Z. All good. @@johnanderson60
There's a reason that an OCD doesn't leave my pedalboard, amazing pedal
Great video - one of your best. After hearing one pedal, I thought, Oh my God, thats my favourite, but then, then next, one, and the next one... all sounded AMAZING (especially with Pete's playing. BUT - you are missing the Blues Driver from that likneup of classic Overdrives. Even though you have a BOSS there, you needed the other one too. Othwise, fantistic video.
OK, I thought they'd all sound the same and they don't. You guys showed me :) Please keep Pete. He knows stuff! No more Chappers, ever. I'll stay subscribed unless you bring him back.
You'll be taking a lot of us with you if that walking ego returns.
For metal, the TS808 is a fantastic pedal to put in front of a distortion pedal. I use it in front of a Revv G3 to add a bit of fizz to the higher end of the distortion. It takes the G3, which is fantastic by itself, and makes it even better.
I play Vox amps which already have a hi mid hump, so I tend not to like pedals that have mid humps as well (screamer, klons, SD-1) my favorite sound into a Vox is a rat (more scooped sound) into a transparent blues breaker type pedal. Such a fun and versatile combo
32:28 My Rat clone sounds great as an edge-of-breakup overdrive with the distortion set to around 9.00, especially in Turbo-rat mode (LED clipping) - Frustrating to see Lee never drop the gain below 10.00!
I can't help but feel the Rat got a bit misrepresented here besides I'd consider it more a distortion pedal than an overdrive. The classic Blues Driver would've been a better fit here for comparison.
I bought a used sd1 for my first drive pedal and it actually has the kealy mod that supposedly makes it sound like an 808, I've always wanted to find out the difference and this helped! Thank you!
The difference between TS 808 and SD-1 is the symmetrical vs non-symmetrical clipping diodes so maybe that. Brian Wampler did an interesting video about converting at SD1 to a TS808 that explains it in detail th-cam.com/video/kWTrXkQS-50/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WamplerPedals
@@monstercrx thank you, I checked out a couple of videos that said the same thing. The pedal sounds good it's just actually hearing the difference and putting it all together.
Great video. Answered a lot questions. Well done boys.
For my $$ that Black Box just sounds awesome !
I play a clean amp. I have the SD-1 gain almost off with the level all the way up running into the Nobels ODR1. The gain on that pedal is set to about 7, level and spectrum are about 6 to 7, as well. If I just want the clean sound, I kick off the ODR1 and play with just the SD1. It really works for me. I also have on my board a Friedman OB which has plenty of gain, becomes a heavy distortion. Thanks for the video, as I think I may have to check out the Black Box and another go at the OCD.
That was a GREAT video, guys. I could tell you really wanted to do this and enjoyed filming. If I had to pick my favourite out of these, I would probably go with Pete and pick the BlackBox. Sounded awesome with the Strat.
What a great video comparing all of these OD's.