The Miracle on the Hudson from a NEW perspective!
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Today it is exactly 12 years since the "Miracle on the Hudson", US Airways flight 1549 encountered the most famous birdstrike of all time which led to two, catastrophic, engine failures and a successful ditching on the Hudson River outside New York, USA.
The incredible work by captain Chesley Sullenberger and Jeffery Skiles as well as the heroic work of their cabin crew and first responders led to the successful outcome. But were there mistakes made along the way? In this video I will be telling the story of flight 1549 based on the final report. I will also give you a pilots perspective on what went on in the cockpit during that winter afternoon in 2009.
00:00 Introduction
00:49 Patreon Homage
01:18 Overview
03:51 Info on Jeff Skiles
05:25 Takeoff
06:25 Birdstrike
08:10 Crew initial handling
11:14 Decision Making
16:30 Cabin Crew
19:35 Ditching imminent
22:47 Ditching
25:28 Conclusion
28:38 Full uninterrupted flight simulation
34:22 End-game
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Mediawatchersoz: Surveillance footage of Cactus 1549 landing in the Hudson
• US Airways Flight 1549...
Manhattan Image: @jacobybrandon
Passenger on wing image: @Steven Day/AP
Waterway boat image: @Steven Day/AP
ATC Audio: @ AppleDualG5
• US Airways 1549 - Comp...
CCTV Footage: @ MediaWatcherOz
NTSB report: www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...
Initially I thought, oh this one again, how many takes on this have there been. Then I sat glued to the whole thing. Fantastic work, great perspective. Awesome job.
Great stuff!! So glad you liked it.
@@MentourPilot Thank you, for the hard work, the time, the care and the effort.
I’ll second that. An “absolutely fantastic” review and analysis of this historic event! Top quality production. Thank you.
@@MentourPilot sorry to bother, just want to make sure you see my request. Please, please,please analyse captain Wrona 2011 belly landing of LOT 16 . I even have a title suggestion : captain Wrona, a hero or a fool?
Yeah, me too, then I was glued.. Had to watch several parts over again.. A miracle indeed!
The joke, among those of us from New York, is that he preferred to land in the water rather than go to New Jersey. Which makes complete sense
Why does New Jersey get so much hate? (A former coworker says it’s because its two biggest cities are both out of state.)
@@RickySTT also, the Hudson river crossings, from New York to New Jersey, are free to go into New Jersey. However you pay a toll to leave. Why? Because it's worth it
@@kevinbarry71 It’s been more than 30 years since I last drove through NYC, but I’ve seen recent examples of some of the tolls. I am floored by those rates-two trips into Manhattan cost more than the entire length of Florida’s Turnpike-but I guess they’re in line with how expensive it is to live in NYC.
@@RickySTT well, probably better to take the train.
@@kevinbarry71 Oh definitely!
One of my favorite anecdotes from this incident is that Captain Sullenberger brought a library book on-board this flight in his personal belongings. Naturally, he left his belongings on-board when he helped evacuate the plane, and by the time the book was recovered, it was both overdue and heavily water-damaged. He called up the library where he borrowed it from and apologized for it not only being a late return, but also for him returning it damaged. The library, understandably, waived all late/damaged return fees. The book was titled "Just Culture: Balancing Safety and Accountability"
I bet that copy is going to be under a glass display after this amazing feat of aviation.
Wow
I've just watched this video for the second time, very close to tears all the way through. Now I read your comment about the library book and I now have a wet face.
@@MikeFloutier Why are you crying over a book? It's just a book...
Is this for sure true, you're not trolling us are ya?
Love his short declarative statements. “Unable”. “We’re gonna be in the Hudson.” He didn’t use a single unnecessary word.
That's not a good thing. It's more likely to lead to confusion about what he meant and more likely to lead to ATC asking them to repeat because of the unclarity of short statements which is exactly what happened. He was probably speaking so briefly because he was multitasking. He was concentrating on flying the plane first and communicating second and you can see this in how he ignored ATC towards the end in order to concentrate fully on landing the plane. So short and vague statements aren't good in themselves. Clear and full sentences are much more effective. But the short statements do show that he had his priorities straight and that he was focused on landing that plane in the best way possible.
Edit- to make it clear as there seems to be some confusion. I'm not saying that Sully did a bad job at all. I'm saying that the short statements show that he was doing a good job of keeping his priorities straight by concentrating on flying first before concentrating on communicating with ATC but that does not mean short and unclear statements are good in themselves.
Absolutely!
@@genuser9758did you enjoy criticizing Sully, sitting there with plenty of time in front of your computer, drinking a tea and wondering how you (perfect you) would leisurely deal with ATC? We take our hats off and wish you had been on the radio that day, you would have saved more lives we all Summe?
@@billpugh58 If you actually learn to read carefully, you might find that I didn't criticise Sully whatsoever. I criticised the idea presented by the top comment that quick and unelaborate responses are useful and a good tactic when they are not useful and are just the result of a pilot doing the good job of keeping their priorities straight by concentrating on flying before listening to and communicating with ATC. That's all.
Hell yes! 🙌 High stress situations with multitasking = just the necessary 😝👌👌
The recreation in the flight simulator really puts into perspective just how quickly everything happened. It’s hard to truly understand when someone is just giving a verbal recount of the incident. Just a few minutes between the bird strike and landing in the river, but the pilots were able to quickly understand the situation and take steps to land as safely as possible. It’s incredible. This story never fails to amaze me!
Yeah that was my thought too. On the channel he breaks things down so methodically your brain makes it feel longer but damn there was barely any time to hit any check lists or prepare like that was crazy.
Seriously. How quickly the decision making was between 1) deciding they couldn’t make it to LaGuardia 2) deciding they couldn’t make it to Teterboro 3) planning a ditch in the Hudson River
It’s mind-bogglingly fast
@@pervasivedoubt150the brain is the most powerful computer in the world. When it’s firing fast. Nothing compares. Amazing.
How quickly he decided: unable! Pilots really amaze me.
And what they were able to run through in that time. I was tidying up while watching, and I only had time to unload half the dishwasher.
I was in seat 18F on this flight. You described what happened very well. In addition, I would add that the passengers responded in an exemplar fashion: little panic, helping one another, and managing the exit amazingly smoothly.
Mr. Richardson, I bet you still have PTSD about this though. What it felt like going down with no power knowing a crash is imminent. The fear. That feeling that no one can truly understand unless it's happened to you. Bits and pieces come back at the strangest times but never really leaves. Maybe I'm wrong. Still truly a miracle.
Yet one must think, it was all ok, but why us? Why so fortunate? What does this mean? Thanks for sharing.
This was alwasys in my mind THE most miraculous thing about this incident.
There’s a commenter just above yours. He was in 16a. Do you remember him ?
@@charismahornum-fries691 No, sorry, I don't recognize the name or then photo.
I'm glad you had Sully as your captain. I can't imagine how that must have felt to go through that.
I am sitting here watching with 33 years of airline flying experience and 20,000 hrs jet , and still cannot believe these guys really pulled this off. The aircraft was in a turn and in climb when the birds showed up , making it impossible for the pilots to see them coming and avoid the flock. What impressed me the most was how calm the captain's tone of voice was on the radio. A great example for all of us , young and old , in my case, old!.
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Great admiration for Sully & his copilot.
It is not mentioned here (and in other videos about the incident) but I do think that the qualifications of Sully as sailplane pilot & instructor have been instrumental in his achieving a safe ditching. __ .
@@christianfournier6862 Totally agree with you. I only know he flew gliders from newspaper accounts but I do believe it made a serious difference in this safe landing.
You're right.
It's Such a reminder of how complacency, even for a moment can mean life and death
These guys were on task from moment one
That was part of this miracle that still makes me cry
Well I have a grand total of zero hours and I can tell you whoever that is at 33:27 should take the rocket scientist job he has clearly been offered before this. How else could he make such an observation?
I watch your channel daily. I'm a retired, highly experienced Airbus 320 Captain. In my opinion what saved the day and all those lives, was Capt Sully thinking outside the box and turning on the APU. He immediately, due to his experience and wit, knew he will need flaps if there is to be any hope of a successful landing or ditching without breaking up of the aircraft and subsequent fatalities. Kudos to the entire crew.
So is the APU used for powering the hydraulics?
Well duh 🙄 yes
This is the difference between understanding things at the level of first principles and algorithmic thinking.
@mohanedlziftawl...Calm thinking also prevailed.
@@Ayden2008don’t be a dick
The one thing that wasn’t mentioned about sully was that he is a VERY experienced glider pilot. I imagine that this training played a HUGE role in the successful ditching and getting as far as they did.
The A320 is NOT a glider. Chesley is a legend.
@@g7usl at the time… with both engines out it was a glider. He is a legend. No power to fly. It’s just a controlled decent. He knew what he was doing because generators on and that at least gave him controls and the ability to talk to the tower. He put it down in the Hudson because that was his last option. And a damn good one. He most certainly is a legend and he saved a lot of lives that day.
If only he knew that in this situation the alpha floor protection was limiting his input to get the nose up, the ditching would've been even smoother. But he really did the best job.
This is the third accident I know of where the pilot's experience with glider planes saved the day.
Each of them some of the most legendary saves.
@@Pippis78which three? This, gimli and ?
Knowing the personality of the Canada Goose, one has to wonder if the bird strikes were even an accident.
Good one
If you've got a problem with Canada Geese, then you've got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate!
(Letterkenny)
This is true. The geese probably died honking and hissing at the aircraft to give them their space. They are stubborn birds.
We get Egyptian geese here. I've seen a lone goose go for someone in their way.
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My father in law was one of the lead wing designers for the Airbus 320 based in Bristol UK. I remember having a conversation with him about the design of the bolts securing the engines. They were designed to sheer to avoid them causing an issue for the wing integrity following a water landing. We then went on to discuss the likelihood of survival following a water landing. I wish he had still been with us to witness the outcome of the teams design work and the amazing flying Captains Sullenberger and Skiles.
Cool story! I too, wish your Dad was around to hear this story.
He would have been proud of the aircraft.
sorry for your loss. The A320 is one of the safest planes out there, you should be proud of his work :)
No wonder A320's took over. They are like the Toyota trucks of airliners..
I wrote above that the real heroes are the engineers who designed these planes. My dad who flew Navy for 30 years had many stories of pilots who bailed out of a plane only to have the plane recover on its on and fly until out of gas. There is a book from a WW2 flight instructor that had several stories of famous people who bailed from planes that just kept flying.
151 Passengers got on the aircraft and, 151 passengers got off the aircraft! Sully is a legend!
Sully AND Jeff
No matter how many times I watch this, I still can't get over this interaction at 32:17
Controller: "Cactus 1549, turn right 280, you can land runway 1 at Teterboro."
Sully: "We can't do it."
Controller: "Okay, which runway would you like at Teterboro?"
Sully: "We're gonna be in the Hudson."
Controller: "Say again, Cactus?"
I can never get over how measured, almost casual they sound. You can almost heat them controlling their incredulity, fear, stress and everything. It is kind of strangely funny how normally they say these things. I mean that is what keeps them efficient and able to deal with thi stuff but it always gets me. Same thing with doctors. "Yes we have an emergency. The dude is bleeding from his scrotum after trying to shave it with a broken glass bottle" - with a totally straight face and strictly business while I am in the next bed just teeming with questions when I get over whether I heard that right. These people are absolutely insane - in a good way.
@@wrongturnVfor It's why they train them for these situations so much. You have to keep as calm as possible or else mistakes are made. And keeping your own voice calm helps keep everyone else in the situation calm too. If one person begins to sound like they're panicking that can lead to it spreading.
lol that is what I was saying, rather appreciating@@rustledjimmz8967
Training helps a lot. But the only situation most airline pilots ever experience is a single engine failure. So you only find out if you're the right stuff is in these extremely rare real emergencies.
@@wrongturnVforI'm sorry I can't☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
The best line, which was said by Jeff Skiles(Aaron Eckhardt) in the movie shows what a sense of humor we can still keep as pilots. When asked if he would have done anything differently....
"Yes..I would have done it in July."
True, good memory!
I am in tears. :D
Actually, the geese will be in Canada in July! still funny tough.
I was hoping that he would have said "Everything, starting with an immediate turn back to LGA - like Sully said he was doing but chickened out!"
Since he and his partner in crime, Sullenberger, hardly got a thing right, I was hoping that he would have said, "EVERYTHING!!, starting with keeping the outside watch required when below 10,000 ft that would have allowed us to see and avoid...!". But no, he had to go for the laughs. Pity.
No matter what, the plane crashed and nobody died. The captain, first officer and crew did an amazing job. Everyone went home to their families, alive.
and therefore congrats to the Airbus Engineers as well.
It wasn't a crash, it was an unplanned water landing.
"it wasn't a crash, it was a forced water landing"- to quote the movie
@@livethefuture2492
Yeah. You're right. My bad
And, much was learned from the 'incident', and acted upon by FAA, AirBus, & all involved!
I'm glad you acknowledged and included the copilot in this vid. Years ago I initially believed the first officer had been incapacitated and unable to assist because the news channels weren't mentioning him at all. All attention was on the captain. They both did an amazing job together.
I have flown with Jeff since. He is now a 787 Captain at American. He is excellent. I have really enjoyed working with him.
Same thing happened with Southwest 1380 with the single engine failure. The first officer did an excellent job there, but almost all the credit went to the captain.
Perhaps they both eat more Goose instead of Turkey at Thanksgiving now…
Jeff is my brother-in-law. He is an amazing person and pilot.
Absolutely everyone involved with the incident handled it really well. The entire crew, the ATC, and the first responders were expemplary. Even the passengers deserve mention for closely following the crew instructions and evacuating the aircraft in an orderly fashion.
ATC in that airspace is well known for being......abrasive. But in this you see why they come across that way. Speed. It is incredible hearing the behind the scenes communication between airports, how fast they convey the information and how fast decisions are made. ATC was pulling out all the stops to save that aircraft and deserve props and thanks for being the best in the world at what they do.
Sully had all the options open to him, ATC would have had cocktails delivered if it would have helped.
@@SongbirdstressDo I really have to have an emergency for the cocktails?
😂😉
@@Songbirdstress I'm pretty sure that if some nice men hadn't escorted the controller away from his desk and into a break room, he would have remained sitting there, making calls, alerting anyone he thought could possibly help, and offering any runway on the entire east coast for Sully to land on.
@@its99pm He was seconds away from calling Canada and Mexico City :)
one of the most amazing anecdotes from this incident is that, according to Skiles, after everyone got into the ferry terminal, 8 of them decided to get a cab back to LaGuardia and took the next flight to Charlotte
8 had Nerves of Steele!
When you fall from a horse, you must get on the horse right away…….my daughter had an accident with a total loss car, she called me to bring her home…….I insisted ….she drove back home
what's the chances youd be in another crash right after. Has to be billions to one.
@@mattoakes14 it actually happened to Ernest Hemingway of all people. He survived two in the space of two days.
Not me!!!! Hell nah!!!!
So we had "Apollo 13", "Cast away", "Sully" - conclusion - NEVER fly with Tom Hanks ;)
Hahaha!!
Don't sail with him either, he attracts pirates and U-Boats.
You won the comment section.
Or perhaps, ALWAYS fly with Tom Hanks!
@@cerealspiller Agree 😄. However bad the situation would be, he'll save us 😁
Fifteen years later and I'm *still* getting chills and in tears over this and NOBODY DIED (or was even grievously wounded). Skiles told Sullenberger "that wasn't so bad" (and, I mean...it was awful, right...but it really wasn't so bad....) And the NY Port Authority's LIGHTNING response, too...They had ferries RACING toward the plane before it even stopped moving.
The passengers went from "boarding a plane" to settling in, listening to the safety briefing, taking off, having a dual bird strike, losing all thrust, crashing into a freezing river in New York in WINTER (there are ice chunks in later shots), abandoning the plane, getting rescued, and on dry land IN AN HOUR. That's a whole lifetime in 60 minutes. Holy shit.
I feel terrible for the ATC guy. He thought they were all dead.
He sure did lol
You can hear it in his voice. Went from blasé New Yorker eating his words (how do pilots understand them?) to absolute professional clarity in 0 seconds flat.
Bless that Air Traffic Controller's heart trying to give Cactus 1549 every runway in the world!
no no, he gave cactus 1529 all the runways in the world...and then back to cactus 1549 and then 1529 again😉
"Oh you're going to be particular and make it a runway huh?"
@@TheJubess I think that might have been the New York accent coming out which sounded like 29 instead of 49 🤣
You bet. Still suggesting airports when they were couple hundred feet above the river.
@@Shadowsearcher64 speaking of legends. UA232 may have been even more incredible because they had no hydraulics.
Every time I hear the recording, I get chills. I feel so bad for that controller-- there's nothing he can do, but you can hear how desperate he is to find a runway to get the plane to. I can only imagine this is among the worst nightmares for air traffic controllers ):
He did not want to give up.
yes, i felt this too.. blessings for those controller guys
He was desperate. What are the chances of a successful water landing right?
Pushing tin.
And for 45 minutes he thought everybody was probably dead
I had the pleasure to have Jeff as one of my students on the DC9 many years before this accident... he was always a true professional!
As a glider pilot we never land with power, and sometimes off-field in a pasture or open space, all the while managing airspeed and approach angles with no go-around ever possible. Sully’s glider experience would no doubt help him, as he quickly found himself flying a large glider, this is common practice to have to look for a suitable place to land …well done Captain
The same thing saved the Polish LOT plane - Captain Wrona is an experienced glider pilot as well!
never thought of it like that - there has to be 100% commitment to the decision you make... thanks
While his experience would have helped, it is important to note that a passenger jet without power is nothing short of a flying brick. Its only because of his skill, composure and professionalism that the outcome was so positive. Many other pilots would not have had the same result as such a superior pilot.
Read about the “gimli glider”
And what a glider! That was the most heaviest “glider” flown over New York City to the Hudson River in a “knick “ of a time!!! Pilot to copilot; how long did that nick of time take us? ….We broke the records of flying gliders with so much “ heavy” people!!! It was a miracle we didn’t fall from sky directly into the freezing Hudson!!! Thank God we’re all in one piece!!!! Weeeee!!!!❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂😅😅
I've watched a lot of videos on this incident, and the "Sully" movie of course, but watching the animation without any pauses for comments, in real time and with real time ATC, it is absolutely crazy how short the time frame for this event was. I count roughly 35 seconds from the bird strike and loss of both engines until Sully notifies ATC that they "may end up in the Hudson", which means he's probably gone through all of his options, and decided that that would be one of them, at least 10 or 20 or even 30 seconds before. To have that mindset to switch on in an instant - during what would have been a complete routine flight - is just the pinnacle of professionalism.
I kind of think he looked at Hudson. As a way for it, not being one of the worst air disasters in history. If they would have crashed in manhatan. it would have killed not only all in the airplane but a maybe a few thousend on the ground. I can´t think of another water landing with out any deaths.
Even more amazing when you realize the flight deck would have been a complete chaos with all the warnings that would have been sounding. The simulation almost makes it feel like a silent calm glide down which obviously it wasn't.
@@exploatores Not that it is important, but "a few thousands" would be really unlikely. Even in New York. He would probably still go for the emptiest space he could fine.
But he certainly would find no completely empty one.
One important thing that not everyone realizes is that a "bad plan that's carried out well" can often have better results than a "good plan that's carried out poorly". You see this in everything from drivers making quick decisions that cause major problems, to businesses making terrible short-term decisions.
So in a situation like this, there is a lot of benefit to picking *A* plan and sticking with it, and spending all your efforts on carrying it out properly.
@SnBergamo What do you think they train in the simulator for endless hours?
Quick decisionmaking in case the shit hits the fan.
An acquaintance was sitting on the back of the plane. Told us that the whole crew was so unbelievably professional, he would have flown with them the next day.
I was just wondering how deep the river was there, basically did the plane settle on bottom BUT have enough still out of the air to support some of them but it looks like it did not.
@@Corsairforu it didn't hit the bottom. It continued to float down the river with the current while the rescuers were trying to get everybody on board their boats. It required some very skillful maneuvering by the ferry captains along side it as well.
@@Corsairforu just checked , average depth of Hudson is 50 m. But the people were saved by the skill of the pilot , that the plane didnt disintegrate on impact or catch fire. And Airbus 320 has a very good glide capability.
@@mviv6339 The same incident with the same people onboard a Boeing 737 would have not ended happy.
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How often, in these truly terrible times, do you get to see so many people, in disparate jobs -- pilots, crew, air traffic controllers, ferry boat captains and crew -- all pull together for a common good? In my humble opinion, this was, in fact, a miracle and an inspiration. Great job all, especially Jeff and Sully. Great recap.
The captain’s completely calm voice is amazing; smooth as chocolate
One item that is rarely if ever mentioned is the fact that Sully says “nice day on the Hudson” about 40 seconds before the strike.
He was relax. Exactly what a captain has to do. They must not be nervous. They know they have to be relax and focus when an emergency occur. It is part of the chance to survive.
I like that you use the word strike because that is what it was. Those kamikaze cobra chickens were out for blood that day (when are they not, actually) and they were happy to die for it. They just didn't know they were dealing with a master.
Giving that one word answer "unable" conveyed more information than "mayday".
As a pilot we are taught to convey information clearly and with the least amount of chatter to get the information across to ATC.
@@TheTigerMothMan But the transmission was stepped on. So says our pilot.
@@TheTigerMothMan My father's last words.
@@1mchartmann could you teach my workmates that trick? Most of them don't know how to shut up.
I worked for an airline that was bought by US Airways and hearing them still use the callsign gives me a warm feeling. So very proud of Sully, FO Skiles, and their cabin crew for this smooth - if scary - landing! Sully's stone-cold "Unable" is amazing, this is a man who has a laser focus and was fully supported by his team. I have a family member in the USCG stationed in the area and she said this was absolutely mind-blowing to witness. Watching the recreation, I was impressed by two things: one, that it seemed to be an absolutely gorgeous day, and two, the call out of '1000' made my stomach drop. Hearing the altitude as it gets lower and lower isn't a great thing to hear when you're over water but they made the best of it. Thanks Petter for covering this flight!
That's my favourite bit too - and "We're gonna be in the Hudson" and then just nothing. Man is busy saving lives bro.
I never tire of hearing this amazing story and thank God for Sully and First Officer Jeff, not to mention the rest of the crew and ATC’s. I grew up in Jersey and work in NYC. This was about 8 years after 9/11 and it was great to have a happy ending to what could’ve been another terrible day in the city. The story does freak me out though because it involves my two fears, flying and drowning. 😬
Even if this was no terrorist attack I can't imagine have traumatic that could have been for many people living in New York who had experienced 9/11 if they had crashed among the houses specially, so great that this ended happy and not in another huge tragedy, specially considering how much damage a big plane can do in a big city.
0:22 only a few minutes to save themselves and everyone on board.
At the formal enquiry Sully testified that he also had in mind saving lives on the ground.
The unstated implication was that even if he lost out on the lives of his crew and passengers, at least by going down in the Hudson he wouldn't kill anyone on the ground. For me that was the bravest part of his testimony.
And the most professional.
Very good point
Crashing into the city must have been a huge deterrent to trying to reach the airports ! I mean : worst case if you try to reach one and fail - you kill a lot of people by crashing into them and the passengers dying. Worst case for Hudson : kill everyone on board. He made a great decision it looks to me !!! And in such a short amount of time. Wow 😳
Well, I'm not actually buying this argument, because LaGuardia is on the water, so his approach even if he had come up short would have been over water anyway, he could have ditched in the water and still been on track to return to LaGuardia, instead he gave up the option of landing on terra firma, and put it into the water without a proper flare, I would say he got lucky, but I wouldn't recommend this as a correct response.
@@theophanemayaud there's really not a lot of city between where he was and LaGuardia, what there is is a lot of water, he could have stayed over water and returned to LaGuardia.
@@BenjaminGatti You're probably right, it looks like, he could've made it back, but for two factors that make your point--and my gut reaction too--completely miss: turning burns speed and while going into the Hudson was very dangerous, crashing into New York was certain death for more than the passengers and crew, the possibility of making it back was too slim relative to that risk--watch Alex Honold's discussions of risk.
5 Points that DECIMATE the "he should've tried for LaGuardia argument:
1) There's the, "if he'd responded immediately" he could've made it back, which simulations show is probably true, however, as has been pointed out here and in Eastwood's good but ideologically hacky film, that is a judgement with the benefit of hindsight.
2) Turning burns speed and thus altitude in a plane with no thrust--so, even though the track looks plenty long enough to get back, would it have been that long after he'd made another 90 degree turn back to the airport? Maybe not. Also, when would it have been reasonable for him to make that turn? That changes the possibilities.
3) While that section of New York isn't densely filled with high-rises, there are still tall buildings and the last mile of the plane's flight was getting lower and lower to the ground, would he have made it to East River even? Maybe. Maybe they would've clipped a 500' radio tower or construction crane, or not cleared a particularly tall building.
4) All of those maybes are like doors on the Price is Right, except instead of revealing a prize, they reveal certain death for the passengers and crew and almost certain deaths of MANY more besides.
5) For all the risk involved, the Hudson, all things considered, offered a safe option, relatively speaking.
6) It's fucking LaGuardia, once you leave, forget about it!
There are some good interviews with the Air Traffic Controller, Patrick Harten. He was absolutely "on it" from the first second, and had a lot to do in those short minutes that you don't hear on the audio. Far more detail than I can give here, but he believed everyone on board the flight must have perished. Immediately after an accident, controllers have to go off duty and fill out an immediate report. Hence it was 45 minutes after the landing that anyone told him that it appeared everyone had survived. Unsurprisingly, he subsequently suffered a certain amount of PTSD. It is well worth reading about his story. Another professional that absolutely brought their 'A' game that day.
We can hear in his voice how desperate he is to get this flight down safely. When he starts offering the other airfields it just breaks my heart, he tried so hard in a situation he had no control over.
I think I heard/read that there was a change in procedure to include notifying the now off duty responsible controller of the outcome of the flight.
then they should think about changing that as well... who cares about the report... no matter how such an incident ends, the guys are in shock.. if the outcome is positive, they should know asap... and if it is bad, they need to know as well and get professionall support asap
@@bobl78 it is Importamt that the participants in such incidents are kept "sterile", uninfluenced until they make their Statement so it can not be rejected about some Kind of doubt that might or might not be.
We had a Helicopter accident in our tönt a few years back. The pilot flew with a burning tail Rotor all oder town just to reach a viable field for His emergency landing. EVERYBODY walked away from the wreck and the Helicopter burned away. The pilot was checked on by the doctor, bit otherwise strictly kept himself away from all bystanders, firefighters and so on until the MP (it was a british Military Heli) arrived.
He did an amazing job. I hope he was able to return to the job, but it not, he made it a great career nonetheless. Same with the Captain and the XO.
I watched several documentaries about this famous incident quite a few times now and I thought I knew almost every detail. However, the recreated simulation with the actual synchronous ATC communication in the end still shocked me how fast the entire incident unfolded and ended. The fact that everything happened in such a short period of time really amazed me at how the entire crew and everyone involved responded with true professionalism. Very vivid storytelling as always from this channel. Thank you and the entire crew for the fantastic work!
And there looking at lowering pilots retirement age!.I don't think any of Sully's or Jeff's passengers would agree.
With age comes experience 🧑✈️
OMG! I am in so in awe of these guys. So calm. "Nope..not gonna make it. Going down on the Hudson". The poor atc's trying so valiantly to come up with a solution and Sully is just resolved in his course of action. The right action. Always gives me goosebumps and I never tire of this story. After watching so many terrible accident stories on your channel, this incident just shows what true professionalism, bravery and teamwork is. I love it! ❤❤❤ Also love all the boats coming to the rescue. What a city NY is. And what an amazing channel this is. I've just found it by accident and I'm hooked! I knew nothing about aviation, but I do now! Can't go a day without my Mentour Pilot fix. It crosses over into so many aspects of daily life too. Keep up this fantastic work. Thank you Petter 😊
One of the ATC's colleagues actually vectored a civilian tour helicopter to follow the plane down from a distance so that they could figure out where it was once they lost radar contact
Sounds like you watched it a buch of times and never even thought about the lives that were lost that day. Disgusting.
"The captain and first officer do a sweep to make sure all crew and passengers are off the plane."
F**king legends! 💪
it is their job ...
@@climatixseuche Yeah, I figured that after going through a couple of videos. Seems that’s the standard procedure they must take after any incident.
it's expected usually, but there are plenty cowards (a certain italian shipcaptain comes to mind) who would have been the first in the water rowing to land instead of helping the evacuation :P
@@climatixseuche self preservation is a strong motivator when it comes to ignoring rules.
@@climatixseuche Their "job" is to fly the plane which they are paid a few bucks an hour to do. No where in their job description is it written they must put other peoples lives ahead of their own. That's called heroism.
I was the cabin safety manager for a US government agency who flew airliners. I constantly argued for rafts on all flights, and had an uphill battle. After reminding management of 1549 enough times, I won my battles. Besides, even if one crashed in the mountains, the survival kits inside them are valuable.
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yeah, I forget who it was, but someone years ago pointed out that an emergency inflatable raft actually makes a decent improvised tent. It's light enough to be positioned by people picking it up and being self-inflating means there's no need to do complex setup procedures. It's not a GOOD tent, but it's a quick and easy shelter. And even if deflated the material is basically thick canvas and useable for shelter even then.
@@marhawkman303 not only tents, it also good as makeshift bedding for those injured or carrying them.
Kudos!
👍👍👍I still don’t understand those yellow vest.
*As a retired F18 CAF 25 year pilot and instructor then commercial for 7 years on Airbus and Boeing, I have known of this famous incident since the day it happened. I have never felt the need to comment until now after watching Petter ringing it home just how brilliant the flying was that horrible nightmare flight.*
_It was indeed a miracle._
TACA 110 was also pretty good...
The fact that it all happened in under 4 minutes just blows me away. (I'm including the takeoff and flight before the filthy geese enacted their suicide mission.)
@@dahliacheung6020 Boom. Yes, you get it lol
I actually met Sully a few years back, and got to shake his hand.
The word hero is carelessly thrown around, but he's the real deal.
The amount of composure in that situation is unbelievable - he saved an entire airliner worth of souls.
New Yorker here. Everyone involved showed the best of the best, but Sully's skill is unparalleled. Thank you so much for the simulation, it brings it all to life. Excellent video!
I got to have lunch with Sully (long story). He told me that he took the controls precisely because he knew that Jeff had just finished that type recertification training and would thus be fresher and faster on the check lists.
Makes sense.
Good thinking.
@@jjjj-365 I'm just telling you what Sully told me.
Ummm...more information from that lunch conversation, please! What a treat to sit and chat with him about all that.
@@Jesse-cx4si I remember that he also said, "If your values are clear your decisions are easy."
One of my favorite things about this incident is how enthusiastic so many pilots are about how great of a job the crew did.
Yes. I also like how efficiently Sully communicated.
Yep , American pilots , some of the world ' s best .
@@johnsmith-rs2vk some of the world's most publicised more like
Lives of the passengers greatly depend on the cabin crew as well.
@@wrongturnVfor exactly why I said "crew" instead of "pilots", though it's still a little vague of a word. The flight attendants all performed with remarkable skill. Everyone had to act with precision and calm to execute such a perfect response. Not just the crew of the plane either. All the civilian, aviation, and emergency responders acted perfectly as well. I can't really communicate how I feel about it, but it's a very positive feeling.
Petter, that simulation at the end, paired with the actual recording, was just phenomenal.
Thank you so much; this video was so well-done, as per usual.
Ive been a pilot for 37 years (I only fly recreationally now) and I also happen to have quite a few Canadian geese on my property and around my lake. Most people who have never seen a Canadian goose don’t appreciate how big and strong they are. Frankly, nothing I’ve flown over the last three decades would stand a chance against a Canadian goose! Even my dogs won’t mess with them… They’re very stubborn and I can just imagine them thinking: "Fine. If I’m going down, I’m taking your engine with me!"
This was the most interesting take on this flight I’ve ever seen. Fantastic job 👍
Our friends to the south have their eagle....
But we have our goose. 😊
I was always amazed how Sully had zero engine power, and yet on the radio, he sounded completely in control of the situation with no stress in his voice.
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It's hard to imagine a better demonstration of The Right Stuff
Yeah. I had no idea how badass this entire story was. Like, I did. But, holy shit. This dude makes cucumbers feel warm by comparison.
He was clearly cool in a crisis.
@@giftofthewild6665 The exact person you want in a situation that could have ended in complete disaster with a lesser man.
Apparently in an interview/talk event Jeff Skiles said that before the event he and Sully talked about a place where they fly seaplanes and Jeff ironically said "I wouldn't mind trying a water landing at some point" well he got that experience a little earlier than expected.
Huh didn’t know that
@@elisabethsun7059 I don't know exactly when they had that conversation as the event happened on their last leg of the flight but Jeff mentions it in jest so I don't if it was a total joke or just a insane coincidence
It’s from a lecture he gave. He said before takeoff of that flight he was writing down a place Sully was telling him about where (pardon my lack of aircraft knowledge) you could sit jumpseat on these small water-landing aircrafts, Jeff was writing down the contact info excitedly because he had never landed on water before. Right before takeoff! He said he did end up getting to go do it years later, but of course already had the “water landing” bucket list box checked.
Edit: it’s from his talk at the EAA Airventure Museum in 2014, it’s on youtube :)
@@ohnoZomBri that was where I first heard it couldn't remember exactly where though, either way he has said about it on multiple occasions not just then from what I have seen as watched a few interviews/talks.
😳 They say, be careful what you ask for!
This was one of the greatest moments in modern American history. Still brings tears to my eyes.
These two pilots did an amazing job. They were in an impossible situation with no good solutions. The fact that they put this aircraft down in the Hudson River with no loss of life is a testimony on their experience and skills. There was of course a good amount of luck involved, however most of the outcome was the result of fantastic skill sets. Chesley Sullenburger and Jeffrey Skyles deserve all the praises they have been given. Kudos to the cabin crew for the professionalism they displayed in an impossible situation.
“We can’t do it, we are going to be in the Hudson.” Gets me every time I hear it. Dead sticked a jumbo jet into the Hudson and everyone lived. Blows my mind to this day.
A brilliant pilot ,but also a very special aircraft.
Not a jumbo jet
The aircrafts land themselves pretty much automatically in normal conditions so in this particular situation pilots had to actually do it manually xD
Except that it wasn't a jumbo jet and the A320 is nothing more than baby sized when compared to a jumbo.
The Airbus software helpt him when he flew to slow. In a Jumbo he would have stalled.
I was a flight attendant for 18 yrs. I know what a simply amazing professional job the pilots and the flight attendants did. I’m an old lady now. But every time I hear this story it 😊just gives me goosebumps. Great job of story telling 💕
This landing was never about one spectacular pilot, as much as Sully deserves all the respect he gets. It was a hell of a landing.
This was an extremely professional crew who followed their training and experience in an incredibly difficult situation.
Holy crap! The flight recreation in real time is even scarier! Now you can REALLY appreciate how damn quickly both pilots reacted. Wow! 😲
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yeah from takeoff to ditching was only 5 min. crazy
I was thinking the same! You can't even finish an apple this fast and by that time they did all this amazing work! Mindblowing
And air traffic control too. Everybody kept their head.
The only thing wrong with the simulation is the birds ... migrating geese fly IN FORMATION ... NOT as a "wild flock of city pigeons".
„We‘re gonna be in the Hudson“ ATC: „Sorry say again?“ This line always make me shiver in awe. The coolness of Sully‘s voice, like cold steel, like he would request another runway… 👍👍♥️🍾
By that time, in fractions of a second, Sullenberger had already gamed the options and could foresee the outcome...
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yeah it's like he's telling them which terminal to send the baggage carts to almost.
But as someone once pointed out to me... panicked shrieking is not useful communication. Being... "unnaturally calm" is useful for conveying information.
Steely eyed missle man
Sully was awesome! We're going into the Hudson with the tone I've said it once I'm not going to say it again! I've got an airplane to fly and fly it he did! Very understated gentleman.
Great video, as usual. One dimension you didn’t mention, probably because you were in Europe, is that back then we Newyorkers were in the midst of the infamous Great Recession. This “miracle” was a tremendous boost to our morale, proof that things could and would get better, and they did.
This Captain is a role model, clear-minded, excellent state control, competence, knowledgeable without the “ego” I’d observed in some pilots.
It's also worth mentioning that he was a very experienced glider pilot. That's all about feeling the energy and gauging the situation of what you can do with no power.
Still, he failed at watching his airspeed. I don't blame him in this situation, his decision-making and CRM was stellar and saved everyone on board and probably many on the ground.
It just should tell any armchair investigator over here that no one is prone to severe mishaps like this, if it happens even to a most proficient and experienced pilot in his best moments. Too often I've seen people and media condemning pilots because they failed at the "most basic thing", while ignoring it in cases like this.
It's so refreshing that Petter is very precise in all of his aircraft incident reports, neither condemning nor ignoring such mishaps. It's all about learning from these incidents, which obviously involves being humble, or results in being humble. Glad to fly with pilots like Petter, and happy to see him instructing young pilots.
Seems to be a bit of a pattern in these events with them being experienced glider pilots
@@skayt35oh my goodness please help this soul.
Thank you ! Did not know that !
: failed at his airspeed : okaaaaayyyy - and you would have done better?? - I've flown several hundred glider flights - but you're the expert....@@skayt35
No matter how many times I see this, I still get goosebumps when Scully says "Unable" and "We're going into the Hudson". And am also always impressed with the calm professionalism of everyone involved.
In my opinion there should built monument on the shore dedicated to this incident, depicting Sully, Skiles and crew with sign: “Dedicated to all professional pilots and crews, which through their dedication, strive for perfection and professionalism, save, protect and watch over our lives”
Amen!
Controller is still like uhhh??? wtf man 😅
Scully is the poster child for what a professional airline pilot should be and strive to be.
I see what you did there. ;)
When we fly our lives are actually in the hands of so many people, it’s insane - the pilots, cabin crew, ATCers. They all need to work seamlessly together.
I am not a pilot. But the human element always amazes me, especially when people perform brilliantly while faces with extremely stressful situations. Pilots, support crew, passengers, air traffic controllers, Hudson River rescuers, medical personnel, and friends who gave encouragement to the injured. KUDOS and RESPECT to all involved!!?
It sounds like Sully actually saved many thousands of people, considering the time of day and the likely hood of going down in a dense population area. Guy's an amazing man, pilot, and overall awesome dude.
Especially with a full load of fuel it could have been 911 all over again.
Isn,t captain Sully a very accomplished glider pilot as well?
I don't want to doubt that Sullenberger is a great Pilot, but this was a Team effort through and through, right back into the cabin. The flight crew did a fantastic Job bringing the plane into the river, but that the passengers came Out relativly unscathed is a great deal of the cabin Crews exploits, who Had a tough Job adjusting to this unique Situation, too.
I would like to believe that a pilot going in and out of this area frequently would have scoped out all the practical landing zones long in advance and which ones were best in which circumstances. In his first call to the tower after the engines shut down, he told them they were going down in the Hudson. The tower spent the next 5 minutes suggesting go here and there. But Sully already knew that wasn’t happening.
@@7heRedBaron no first call he said i needed to get back.. his training told him to fly the plane untill a action was clear this got him closer to the hudson with no chance to get back or get to alternative... to get back he needed to do a sharp turn with no thrust right after the strike simulations shows this. he had not the time to do that safely..
One part of the story I heard on a different channel was that Sully directed the rescue craft to take passengers off the wings before they took passengers from the slides, as the slides could be easily detached from the aircraft if it sank too low but the wings obviously could not. Yet another example of the skill of this flight's crew.
not really that’s just common sense
although a lot of ppl do lack that nowadays
@@edddie7563True. Common sense is not nearly as common as people suppose.
@@edddie7563 Maybe, but the presence of mind to think so clearly, when you've just catastrophically hit birds, put your plane in the river, survived a water ditching and have adrenaline coursing through your pounding heart is extremely impressive. It would be very normal overlook this kind of detail in such a situation.
@@edddie7563 Common sense is rather difficult to come by when your brain is in emergency mode. Basic reasoning gets impaired in those situations.
im no pilot, just someone fascinated by this type of stuff. but i gotta say, the jumping around these controllers do is incredible. they’re bouncing from line to line trying communicate what’s going on with speed and efficiency cuz time is literally of the essence. every second matters. they handle it so well to try and get the pilot what they need to make sure everyone survives. amazing stuff
I feel so bad about the Air traffic controllers in these situations. They're doing their absolute best but still have to endure the stress of knowing that people might be dying.
And even after that, they don't get to know right away how it went and still have to do their job professionally not knowing how bad the crash went.
The ATCs in this situation were incredibly professional which I truely admire.
My brother was a US Airways captain at the time of this crash. He was also a long-time friend of Sully's and had flown with him many times as his FO before he made captain. I talked to him early on the morning of the crash. He said he was flying from LaGuardia to Charlotte that day. I went to work, and subsequently took a break, turned on the TV in the staff room and saw a US Airways Airbus 320 in the water with all of those people on the wings. The TV commentator said it was a flight from LaGuardia to Charlotte. Thank heavens I was able to contact my brother and verify that it wasn't his plane. It would have been a very long day if I hadn't heard his voice. He had spoken about Sully years before the crash, saying that he was "a pilot's pilot" and a very kind man.
Ditching is not crashing
@@chiprawlings7166OH NO, A MISTAKE!!! THAT'S SaCrIlEgIoUs!!!1!
Bro, let it be.
I think lots of people remember the day they switched the TV on and saw the strange sight of a large airliner in a river with people sitting on the wings 😊. I’ll never forget it!
I met Sully when I photographed him on a red carpet. He was uncomfortable with all this attention but handled it like the pro that he is. He's very friendly, personable and humble.
A real life Superman!
You know that you can trust a celebrity when they're uncomfortable because they were thrust into that role instead of working toward it just for the sake of it
Smile for the camera
Sully: Unable
@@johnsMITHhhhhh88 girl what 💀 just cause you work for fame doesnt mean your untrustworthy
He has a healthy attitude and philosophy about heroism, that sometimes people need heros and if he can be that or must play that part it's a good thing
The more I learn about this, the more insane it is to me that anybody survived this at all. I can't even figure out the astronomically tiny probability for HUNDREDS of things that just HAD to go absolutely perfectly correct.
i remember hearing about this, living in NJ, but i'd never heard the audio. What an incredible calm in the tone of the pilot's voice. Calm, concise. Incredible job done.
Whenever I hear to this ATC recording, I know that's not the main thing, but I'm always amazed by how quickly the Teterboro Airport responds and clears him for landing - like how! "one ring - he picks up - runway 1 uh check, does he need assistance" - wow so f'ing precise!
And Sully too with his famous "unable" - such brevity!
I think it’s easier when you can see the whole airport. It’s a tiny airport, mostly doing private/charter. Newark is just a bit south and is huge. Teterboro guy has been staring at the same screen and knows that his runway is clear. So it’s not like he had to check or think on it.
@@6vitamin yeah that makes most sense. But I try to imagine, probably because I am not ATC, if I would respond that quickly
@@6vitamin I mean, I know nothing about how atc operates, especially some small charter airport like that, but dang he picked up fast af. Like even if I was waiting on someone to call me it’d probably take me at least two rings to find and pick up the phone.
I occasionally quip at people "Can't do it, we're going in the Hudson." whenever someone offers me an option I can't take.
@@Zildawolf Yeah, the atc at Teterboro was certainly attentive. Usually you might expect an atc at a small charter airport like that to be kind of sleeping on the job. Clear skies, no bad weather, chances of a flight needing to be diverted to your tiny airport practically doesn't exist. Then this is on top of being a smaller, far less busy airport and one would think the atc operator wouldn't be nearly as alert as this guy was. Feel like this operator certainly takes his job seriously.
Another fortuitous thing that helped prevented any fatalities: The time of the ditching. It was almost end-of-day, and all the boats and ferries had just finished preparing for NYC peak traffic, all of them fully crewed, fully fueled, checked & warmed up. So when Port Authority call came asking for help, they could immediately mobilize and reached the plane within a couple of minutes.
I like how the ancient law of the sea kicked in immediately - go to the aid of a vessel in distress, not a minute to be lost. Lots of paying passengers were left waiting on the docks.
@@donjones4719 I grew up on Staten Island. I love ferries! And the NJ/NY ones too. Ancient law of the sea is correct.
Sully also specifically aimed for ferries, correctly thinking that would be the fastest rescue.
I noticed it did not have a lot of bridges going over it. Every river normally has a few bridges whether from the 30's or 70's or newer spanning over the river for traffic. They had NOTHING. SO, like a wet runway.(Really wet)
Wow, thanks so much for the final simulation. From the documents and movies you never realize, how fucking fast that all happened. Thats insane! The crew was friggin insane for being able to be so calm and organised and confident in such a tiny amount of time. Deep respect!
Who is better than you Mentour……….Nobody! Great job. I have thousands of hours flying over the Hudson River in a helicopter many times in single engine versions. There were always two thoughts on my mind, engine failure with autorotation into the River and midair collision with other aircraft. That is one busy area at low altitude and no one expects a major airliner zipping through. He handled it all, the engine failures, the commitment to land in the drink, and his responsibility to get all passengers out. His first officer was also stellar in his performance.
I was a goose that day, and man when we saw that airbus we we all just started flapping. Some of us didn't make it but when we got to our migration point we were all shook up. Most of us don't migrate near airspace anymore. We don't blame the pilots though, they're just doing their job.
Hey man, would it be alright if you just shit in the bushes from now on instead of all over the lawn? We could offer you a cup of spinach on a weekly basis in return.
Humor is in good taste and order and a relief since no one was injured or died.
😂😂😂
You were a goose that day? So are you still a goose? Or are you something else now?
@@anthonysmith3851 is that your official report?
A couple of things that I believe were not mentioned:
1. Captain Sullenberger is an experienced glider pilot.
2. The "division of tasks" that you mentioned was executed perfectly, is typically called "Crew Resource Management". As it so happens, Captain Sullenberger was the one who *created* the CRM training for US Airways. CRM is often cited as one of the deciding factors for the successful outcome of this accident.
3. At the time, there was a discussion both in the industry in general as well as in US Airways specifically about removing ditching simulations from simulator training because it happens so rarely, and when it happens, everybody dies anyway. However, they had not yet removed the training at the time. (And probably didn't afterwards, I would imagine.)
4. As you mentioned in the beginning, it was *theoretically* (i.e. from a physics standpoint) possible to return to LaGuardia. In fact, after the accident, simulations were made, and pilots were *indeed* able to land back at LaGuardia. However, what non-technical media outlets typically forget to mention, is:
a) These pilots knew *in advance* what was going to happen.
b) Almost all (if not all) of them needed multiple tries to make it.
c) It essentially requires you to turn back *the instant* the first goose hits the engine, and to know in advance what those maneuvers should be. Something, as was noted in the video, you would *never ever* do, because every turn costs you speed *and* altitude, which is the *one thing* that you need in an engine failure, because altitude == potential gravitational energy, which means altitude == range and altitude == time.
I'm not a pilot but I do believe that experience is absolutely the best teacher. I believe that his glider experience, I heard in his time off he enjoyed flying frequently, made him able to be comfortable in this emergency. He didn't panic and knew exactly what to do in his NOW Glider.
7 out of 13 made it successfully to Laguardia when 1) they knew what would happen and we're allowed to work out a solution in advance; and 2) they were allowed to initiate the turn to the airport immediately after bird impact. As you pointed out, this is not "real world", so I also think it is a stretch for anyone to say that it "was possible" to return to Laguardia.
When the tests were repeated with a 30 second delay imposed between bird impact and first turn/maneuver, none of the simulation pilots was able to safely reach Laguardia or any other airport. 0 of 13.
All of your other points are excellent. I have heard Skiles give a couple presentations (great speaker) and Sully asking him if he has "any ideas" just before they hit the Hudson always get a laugh. But it is classic CRM. "What am I not seeing?" That he could still think that way while under such high pressure is pretty amazing.
I would like to add something to 4, he had one try and VERY high stakes its NYC not rural Wyoming, had he attempted to returned and failed he would have risked hitting multiple buildings. Lives of people who where not on that on that plane hinged on his decisions.
@@lisanadinebaker5179
You misquoted, removing the operative word, "theoretically."
Excellent, well-written info.!
I read the book about this and Sully's training made him the perfect pilot for the job. He had read about problem flights and the very human mistakes made during them. Things like how we feel like time slows down during an emergency and people can underreact.
I had the honor ofmeeting Sully, and hear his presentation at an NBAA conference. He is a real leader, and shared nothing but praise and respect for his crew.
Jeff Skiles had over 20,000 flight hours when Cactus 1549 departed on Jan 15, 2009; he gave that number when he testified to Congress on Feb 24, 2009, and Sully has frequently stated that Skiles has more flight hours than he does. Skiles earned money for college by giving flight lessons; he was a certified instructor before he turned 20. There was a great deal of skill and experience in both seats that day.
Why would this "expert' make such bad, wrong statements about the second most pivotal character whom he had not bothered to research, even a little bit? What other assumptions has he made?
@@heidikickhouse- - Petter researched FO Skiles' history just fine. He was pointing out that Skiles had relatively few hours experience *on type* (i.e. in the A320), and that is very important in terms of his personal familiarity with the aircraft's systems and technical operations - as in it would be completely understandable if FO Skiles did not yet instinctively know the location of instruments and switches he had to use. In the event, his overall airmanship was exemplary in that he mentally made the role switch from Pilot Flying to Pilot Monitoring immediately and instinctively, he fed Capt. Sullenberger precisely as much information as he needed - no more, no less; he didn't second-guess the Captain's safety judgements (even when they cut the vertical clearance margin over the GWB quite close) and his CRM during the evacuation was completely on point. I suspect that what Petter was getting at in mentioning FO Skiles being relatively new on type was to emphasise how well he played his role in spite of that.
@@turricanedtc3764 Peter pointed out that because Jeff was new to this type, he had JUST finished training, and had most of the emergency procedures fresh in his mind. I believe this was beneficial, NOT detrimental. A more experienced FO (in this type) may have been comfortable and a bit 'rusty', which could have cost them precious time they did not have.
@@mrmikesparks it's also why it wasn't just a captain taking over issue but a CRM issue that basically demanded they switch.
Flew with Captain Sullenberger many times - not just a true professional aviator , but a real gentleman as well.
Yeah right chill
Sulli is also a rated glider pilot.
I use to ride dirt bikes with him so...
@@chrisaskme811 I know exactly how feel. I also flew with Sully back in 'Nam in the 1960s. We were once shot down over the Mekong Delta. Even though we lost our entire tail section, our engine and both wings, Sully got us down safely. We had to ditch in a river and were quickly surrounded by at least a thousand Viet Cong soldiers. Fortunately, Sully was easily able to convince them he was a god, and they soon let us go. If it weren't for my days flying with him, I'm certain I would never have been able to successfully complete my 1987 moon landing in a Cessna 172.
@@skyhawk_4526 yup, good times. I was one of the thousand who surrounded you. We let you guys go because of the smell. Guys more showers pl.
Sully is a talented captain! Great analysis Mentour! I am a retired Air Force pilot and I still believe this emergency management has been saving lives since the aviation community received the NTSB preliminary report. To the phrase "Aviate, Navigate and Communicate I would add...and be as humble as this air crew was.
it gives me chills. I never flew anything larger than a Baron. I once had to do a very easy deadstick landing on a runway in a Cesna 208 with just me on board and I know how much adrenaline I was pumping. How this man put this plane down on a river with all those lives at stake truly is a miracle on the Hudson.
I loved hearing the cockpit and tower, the simulation really brought home just how little time the Captain had to make the call where to land and how little time he had to set up for ditching...the crew did an incredible job and all involved...wow
I've spent more time inside my own head trying to formulate a sentence to spit out meanwhile these guys accomplished all of these actions almost immediately saving the entire crew. Unreal stuff.
same. the speed blew me away. whether or not the voice recorder showed it in their heads they're thinking "this is real this is real". to put that thought away and preform tasks at that speed knowing you're going down over a heavily populated area is insane.
2815 feet does not allow much time...
Also the boat Captain's and rescue crews. They had every passenger on dry land within minutes. I'm thinking it was around 20 minutes from ditching until every passenger was safe. May have been less than that, it was quick response regardless and that saved lives as well as the flight crew.
My favourite part of the CVR is shortly after the bird strike and subsequent dual engine roll back you hear Sully say "my aircraft" and Skiles responds with "your aircraft", before they settle into their roles. Just... Textbook.
And yet, FAA tried to blame him for not making it to Teterboro!
@TheScandoman no, they didn't. They simply did their jobs and investigated the incident. Even Sully thought so.
@@JumpingTuna Well, I'd like to see/read that interview.
Yes, I know FAA & NTSB investigate these things thoroughly, but there are often improper motivations on this sort of thing...
Just like all the 'investigation' of Bidens that Trump wanted in 2019: you know, there's not necessarily anything wrong with an objective investigation, but he didn't want ANY investigation; just the slanderous announcement of one, so he could throw his shit around!
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@@TheScandoman It was not the FAA, Scando. It was the insurance companies who made all the circus. If it wouldn't have been such an exceptional feat of airmanship, they would have skinned Captain Sully alive, just to avoid paying. For the kind of money involved in paying for a new aircraft, they would sue their mother.
You should also read Sully's fascinating book "Highest Duty". It gives you insight to his career as a pilot all his life...He's had above and beyond mental training for incidences such as this.
I never get tired of hearing about this MIRACLE and the incredible piloting that this crew had to perform; the pilots and cabin crew saved all those passengers without endangering anyone on the ground. Thank you for sharing from your experienced perspective what happened with this flight.
As a USAir Flight Attendant, I flew with both Sully and Jeff. They were ALWAYS totally professional. There was just an air about them that they could handle anything. And they proved they could. God bless the whole crew.
Someone above said that the aft F/S directed the pax toward the over-wing exits. True. However, she was up to her neck in that freezing water and had a severe gash in one leg from torn metal. She still got them evacuated. Never flew as a F/A again. Don't blame her at all. I don't know if I could have flown again if I had gone through such a horrific experience.
Thank you for your service.
I have seen those comments to. Its really sad really just unnecessary. She did her job and did the best with what the situation was. Those who judge her seem to be devoid of the ability to empathize/sympathize with other humans in reasonable ways. Thank you for sharing your point of view. Have a blessed day.
That's an A-W-E-S-O-M-E Testimony & It's Greatly Appreciated The Work That Flight Attendants Do To Keep Passenger's Like Me Safe ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@stevosan3225 this is not military. While flight attending is important, it’s not THAT important.
@@ewjiml FA's are onboard thousands of aircraft every day, and are there for the SAFETY of every passenger onboard that aircraft, not just to serve drinks.
They're fire-fighters, they do restraint training for unruly passengers, dangerous goods and bomb training scenarios, advanced 1st aid, including delivering a baby, and many, many more things, including saving your ass if you need to evacuate the aircraft.
Tell me again how they're "not 'THAT' important?!" 🙄
I worked at the skyscraper in NJ on the hudson and remember that day, I was in a conference room when we all started to see the plane coming towards us along the hudson and hit the water and we all crowded around the windows watching ny waterway ferries rush to the downed aircraft...
hol up, I remember a scene in the movie sully where you can see a view from a conference room, was it that exact conference room or a different one
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Wow that had to be such a crazy thing to witness out of no where.
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Awesome Pilots ! Like where Sully went back to make sure that no one was left behind Angel was watching over them!
It didn't quite hit me how fast everything happened until the simulation at the end. The ATC controller was incredibly fast on his feet.
Man all of the dramatic documentaries and retellings of this don't convey the insanity of this situation like Petter's phenomenal, factual descriptions, and the jawdropping uninterrupted simulation.
The ATC is still notifying others while the crew has already come up with the Hudson as option, and then when they start talking to Teterboro, the 1549 pilots have already started the ditching procedure.
It happens so unimaginably fast 😳
Yes, it really did. Thanks for your kind words!
Legend has it they're still looking for a runway for 1549 to land on.
@@MentourPilot until this video, I didn’t realize just quickly Sully and Jeff were assessing the situation and coming up with solutions, while showing incredible airmanship. Thank you for giving us this deeper insight into just how much of a Miracle this is
Approximately 5 mins from takeoff to landing. It is no wonder so many crashes happen because you have to really be on your toes to troubleshoot quickly.
I was surprised that the entire flight from takeoff to water landing was only five minutes. This shows, once again, that Captain Sullenberger is a great aviator. His experience guided him and the entire crew and passengers to a safe landing. I the Clint Eastwood directed movie, the NTSB tried to hurt his reputation time after time, but couldn't budge him. He is now retired and deserves any awards that could be given. In war, the Medal of Honor is the top award. What do you give the men that saved 155 people, or more, from death?
FAA Medal of Honor
What a pilot, cool, calm, zero emotion, top class ❤
The flight crew did everything right, even under an extremely stressful situation, my hat is off to them! Not only saving the lives of everyone on the plane but countless lives on the ground. Thank you for showing this from a pilot's perspective, really enjoy your content.
On the hardware side, I find nearly every time I'm listening to a successful emergency, there's at least one part of the plane that gets stressed beyond it's rated limits, and holds anyways, and I'm reminded once again why we design and build in margins, even when it's hard, and even when it costs more than we'd like it to.
Gives me chills thinking about it.
I remember back in the late '90s reading a post written by a US-based pilot in which he used the analogy of a Citroen 2CV versus his Ford F100 pickup truck to insist that the structural integrity (or "toughness") of Airbus airliners would always be inferior to that of Boeing or MD types. Now, I don't know how serious he was being, but I'm very glad to note that time has proven his hypothesis wrong. The A320 series has turned out to be a very tough and resilient little bird, capable of withstanding significant abuse and still holding together.
@@Milepost93Productions if I remember right didn't the badly injured pilot use the plane as a weapon to help his crewmates take the guy out?
@@admiralsnackbar69 did little good though..
The balance between life and death lives in those margins so they are easily worth the cost and should always be there. God Bless the talented people who make it happen!
This story never gets old. All the stars were aligned and crew did an impeccable job.
Exactly. All the stars being aligned (including NY ferries empty and ready to go) in this one makes me call this a miracle. Some people have a problem with that word, but the stars being aligned in this case is exactly what that word is meant to convey.
@@Maxfli82 One of the Ferries had just emptied of passengers and had yet to start loading people going to NJ, and another one had Just Completed Training and a Drill for Water Rescue!! Talk about the luck!!! An Experienced Glider and Jet Pilot at the Controls, the Teamwork in the Cockpit & in the Cabin, the Skippers and the Crews of All of the Ferries & 2 of them being empty of passengers and able to respond almost as soon as the jet stopped and started to drift with the current...... Miracle indeed!!!!!!!
@@timengineman2nd714 Weather had been bad (one wonders it that had to do with the geese flying that route), but had improved and they still had light, at 15:36. And NO ship or bridge in the way of the landing on the Hudson either.
This story never gets old.
How are these people so calm in the whole situation? The pilots and the people at the control towers altogether. I'm listening to all the back and forths and I'm panicking already for them. This is an impressive show of control.
Even as many times as I’ve heard the audio from this. The controller, Pat Harten, (who doesn’t get as much credit as he should) did one hell of a job. Even with the thoughts he had going through his mind. He pushed everything to the side and worked the problem all the way to the end. Total team effort by everyone involved.
Yeah American controllers get a lot of flak (from foreign aircrew) for their impatience and non-standard RT but when the shit hits the fan, they give great support and are arguably the best in their game.
@@jsurfin1 They are one click away. A lot more pilots would live if they would just push the button and say something to effect they are in trouble. Either mayday, emergency, I’m in deep shit whatever to get the point across.
@@jsurfin1 In fairness, NYC area approach controllers have been frequently singled out for being abrupt, impatient and using non-standard RT by US-based pilots too - however in recent times, it's worth pointing out that when they've had to deal with incidents and emergencies, they've handled them extremely well.
Sully was a classmate (usafa 73) . We're very proud. We'd all like to think we all could have done as well, but in truth, he did it top echelon.
Cool,thanks for sharing that
I absolutely love when you do stories like this. It makes me feel so much more confident flying, but the level of respect and admiration I have for the specific pilots and any other pilot that handles incidents with such humility is inspiring.
It’s unbelievable how fast they made all of these decisions and went through everything. I can’t even imagine someone claiming that he should have been faster…