The 17th century paddle stock wheel lock cavalry carbine
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- This strange looking firearm was the iconic carbine of the most important light cavalry of the 17th century western European armies, the bandelier, harquebusier or carbine, but also important arm of the eastern intermediate cavalry. History and shooting with authentic projectiles and charges.
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Your children must be having a dream wonderful childhood, having a succesful, famous, smart dad, surranded by so many awesome weapons! Keep up the good work!
Like their allowed to touch them 😂 👍
:D too many good words about a crazy black powder enthusiast
@@ddoherty5956 Well, actually I reckon to get themselves familiarise with the rifles asap under strict parental control. They must understand the lethal nature of them rifles.
If they are interested in guns but prohibited from them they will eventually find a way into the armory. In that scenario you defo dont want teenagers to start experiments with guns and rifles!
@@istvanszoke381 I agree whole heartedly, my point was they are my toys and I'm not sharing 🤣🤣🤣 going to start my own boy on air rifles this year he's 10 in a couple of weeks, going to also buy my first trigger lock as the gun cabinets full. Happy Christmas mate 👍
hell the dog is lucky too ...
The thing that always surprises me about wheel locks is how small the firing delay is.
It makes sense if you think about the physical layout. The contact area between the steel wheel and the pyrite is *right in* the priming powder. Direct contact, not sparks flying through the air as with a flintlock.
Makes up for it with how slow the preparation is due to having to wind the lock with a key.
@@wlewisiii seems to open the pan automatically here, with a full (only quarter) turn. So I think the time difference is small.
Compared to a flintlock, the shower of sparks is intense.
@@hiltonian_1260 That advantage of wheellocks towards flintlocks stops after some shots when the wheel gets dirty and the groves in it fill up with powder ashes. That slimy greyish-black sludge slows the wheel down and prevents the creation of sparks. I have several wheellock rifles and the problem is bigger with those later locks that have smaller wheels that run internally. I would say that the huntsman was on the safe side when he went into the forest, either stalking his prey or waiting for it in some place where he knew a boar or stag would eventually turn up and then shoot it. After that he had to see to his prey, cut it up, take the guts out and walk home. If the wanted to shoot again there was time to clean the lock. In a shooting competition there would have been a bench for all the necessary utensils and the gun could be cleaned after a number of shots. But in the heat of a battle?
I love Camilla. We just got a new puppy ourselves. I have a wheelock that was gifted to me as a broken gun.
I need to repair it and get it shooting. Loved the video.
I am subed to you brother, i would love to see it. We need more historical firearms makers and types
Another point on the paddle butt: it was a cheek stock, like so many firearms of the time.
I have a reproduction of a 1640 era Brescian wheellock cavalry carbine. It’s not quite accurate because I had the builder extend the butt enough to be a shoulder stock. The original had a tiny octagonal cross section stock with a 10” (254mm) length of pull.
A cheek stock makes sense for an armor wearing soldier.
I must also add, I LOVE your videos. They're historically educational, enlightening, relaxing and inspiring with excellent camera work and audio.
They often sooth me with fantasies of hunting on a foggy day, getting my game , cooking it and enjoying a fine meal with a glass of wine afterwards.
Truly a day in the life of a man of the world!
Telling your pets "Bless you" when they sneeze speaks volumes about your character:)
:)
Bardzo ciekawy program -wielki szacunek dla pana.
Great video, as usual! Thank you. Every time I see you on these beautiful hungarian outdoor ranges, I get that cozy feeling of wandering through foggy woods and I wanna go on a hunting trip again. I'm not so far away over here in northern germany and it's just awesome to wander through the foggy heath early in the morning. I learned something today and now I'm reading about early flintlocks, never heard "snaphance lock" before. Glad to meet your dog, we (me & my family) wish you and your family a wonderful christmas and @ 12:20 it's righty-tighty and lefty-losey ;) Best wishes!
Do you shoot muzzleloader as well? I am from the Lübeck area.
Can't tell you why, but I've always had a thing about wheel locks. Great video, particularly the development/evolution of military tactics. Sadly my historical education regarding Eastern Europe is non existent. Thanks for providing a little more education.
A real beauty, nice early Christmas gift this video.
I would class the Polish-Lithuanian winged hussars of the 17th century as heavy cavalry armed with a lance, saber, koncerz (thrusting sword), two pistols, war hammer and protected by half armor and lobster tail burgonet.
The border line is very thin between intermediate and heavy. The equipment is probably secondary behind the use.
Thank you for another wonderful and enjoyable history lesson and a cool gun too.
Excellent video. Learned a bit of the Eastern type cavalry, that I didn't know.
Ah, I love it when I sit down at my computer and see that a new video from capandball has dropped!
Very cool firearm!
Oh man, so much fun you are having with all these old weapons. I have never had the pleasure of shooting a wheel lock. Some day 🤠
Good to see video's about old historical firearms and have the history behind them too.
In my godfathers weapons collection he had 2 .68 cal. Half Stock Boarding Guns- that were used against soldiers in the American Revolution- ive fired one of those weapons and once was enough lol- recoil was huge-
Beautiful gun and a lovely dog!
such a beauty. thanks for showing us this one
A very beautiful carbine and doggy too.
Everything I could have thought of has already been said - so I'll just wish you and your family a great 2023, from the tacs here in UK, and leave it at that.
Been waiting for new episode so keep up good work shout out from Indiana alot of black powder enthusiasts around my area of the midwest
I love this channel! Greetings to Hungarian brothers from Estonia :)
I always wondered since I was a pre teen why wheel lock guns didn't just have wingnut wings instead of a key.
There are some, but they are very rare.
@@capandball Interesting. I never knew that. Thank you, sir!
Although I am partial to early 18th century dragoon and holster pistols and early fowling pieces, The wheel locks you have are beautiful. That pistol set you unboxed is a real prize. Maybe one day I will be able to obtain a set. Thanks for the videos.
The dog is beautiful. Great video as usual !
I mean old guns are cool and all, but i want to see more of that dog.
Lock time seems about on par with a flintlock. The main advantage of the flintlock would be the simpler mechanism, cheaper and easier to mass produce. There would also be an increase in rate of fire for the infantry, faster cocking and not requiring a separate tool. Not as much of a factor for cavalry.
In the words of cap and ball "excellent"...
That a really cool musket
Another fantastically enjoyable video!! But once again you've been extremely sneaky . . . educating me like that with me barely noticing!!
Love the pupper action. X3
Гарний карабін. Мабудь з такого дуже приємно стріляти. Красива зброя не може бути паганою.
Love old guns 💪
Love your history thank you
I've never really been much of a fan of wheelocks, but slowly they've been interesting me. Maybe I should get one too.
Excellent as always. Thank you
I personally would like a wheel lock than a flint lock for hunting. Seems more reasonable. And could make it virtually water resistant. It is a wonderfully elegant piece!!!!
Excellent vidéo, bonne année du Québec
I appreciate what you do. I really enjoy them very much.
Very accurate shooting, very good. Bravo This accuracy for 40 meters distance is very good. Then, already up to 100 meters, the deviation will be small with this shooting.
wow
UNIQUE.
A wonderfully comprehensive presentation of both the firearm and its employment in battle. Thank you. You mention that a soldier would carry 12 paper cartridges in his cartridge box or pouch. Is there any information on how many rounds a typical soldier would fire in a battle? Even at two or three times his standard issue a relatively small amount of ammunition would be consumed compared to what soldiers would consume as firearms developed.
In the english civil war, there often reports of units falling back to reload there bandoliers at large powder casks.
We have the reports as lit matchs an barrels of powder don't mix.
Said casks where used as it was a better way to keep powder dry then cartridges or wooden charge boxs.
Always wanted to shoot and build one of these along with a matchlock
Very informative. Love the channel.
Swedish army used Finnish cavalry called 'hakkapeliitta' and they break spanish square - formation. King fight with Finnish men. Finland have always been the balls of Swedish empire.
Well done as always.
Sweet dog.
I think you are correct about the shape and purpose of the stock. It seems reasonable and practical.
You will have to take that hunting.
I 've always been interested in wheel locks
Wonderful video. Thank you
Wheel locks are very cool Merry Christmas from Canada Balázs
Merry Christmas Mike!
Beautiful gun
Wheel locks are so cool
Awww hi Camilla 💕✨
Vielen Dank für das Video und die umfangreiche Information.
Ein frohes gesundes und Glückliches Jahr 2023
Viele Grüße
Frank Galetzka
Beautiful replica!!
If they would have integrated the winder into the wheel I'm not sure Flintlocks would be much if any more efficient, that or integrate it into the priming flask.
Thanks enjoyed.
Very nice video, but gotta say this your dog stole the spot 😂
:)
I love those guns ... If I had a black powder gun , that is the type I would have. They are absolutely beautiful ...
What kind of pyrite was used for this carbine? I noticed yours was a flat sided rectangle. How many shots could be fired before the pyrite had to be replaced? This was a really good and informative video. I am a student of the use of cavalry/dragoons so I watched this to the end.
I used to use sharp pyrite blocks, but changed to flat ones. They tend to last much longer. I fired at least 50 shots with this one without any problems.
@@capandball Excellent
from a history nut 2 very big thumbs up
That seems to have a very fast lock time.
Addendum: I know it would not be historically accurate, but would a diabolo shaped projectile help with its already impressive accuracy?
A tight fitting projectile will surely improve accuracy.
A Maxi Ball type projectile would answer, once you have the diameter correct. Maxi Balls look more like bollards than bullets. Not at all period correct of course.
Always wanted a wheel lock. Ya just don't see 'em here in the U.S.
Kształt tej kolby, pod warunkiem, że jej okucie jest wystarczająco mocne, wydaje się być dość skuteczną adaptacją do walki na bliski dystans, używając karabinu jako maczugi do łamania kości kończyn, czy rozłupywania czaszek. Podobnie ukształtowane pałki, jeśli mnie pamięć nie myli, były używane przez mieszkańców Oceani.
Very informative video
this is fucking epic, I bet Kamila is doing caracole as we speak and scratching you like a true rider.
in the USA, these muskets are sold freely, and here in Raska they give 4 years in prison for these weapons.
Very nice firearm, literally a work of art. They don't make them like this anymore!
It is actually made these days in Poland on order by a gunsmith
@@capandball That is awesome, I will look into this! Thank you
"jól húzd fel, messzire lősz!" :D
Fabulous 👍
Коліщатковий замок😍 дякую, чувак, повний процесс перезарядки та виготовлення картузів, це краще ніж порно)))
I don’t know if I can advertise one more gunmaker from Poland for you, haven’t asked him. But if I can dm his Facebook to you it would be awesome. He is really talented guy, and his guns are precious pieces of art.
I need to get up to speed on the history of Eastern Europe. I’ve got some familiarity, but not nearly the depth of knowledge I have of Western Europe.
The countermarch is one of the original cavallery and before that chariot tactics. The Eyptians or Hittites did it 3500 years ago.
great carbine, great dog
Excellent video, like all yours. I hope you do something about the original Hawken rifles or about the 18th century Spanish flintlock shotguns, (fowlers) with "patilla lock" or miquelet lock. Merry Christmas. Greetings from Spain.
There are a lot of depictions of cavalrymen from the 16th to the 18th century holding their pistols kind of sideways, the most accepted explanation for this is generally that it is a far more stable posture (the bottom of the stock resting against the wrist/forearm) to use on horseback. In that case of using the carbine with a single hand, couldn't the rounded butt also help if you fire the carbine sideways? The large butt ought to bring a lot of stability I suppose. But difficult to say without having tried.
Keep up the good work!😄😄😄😄
Is there any way to have these beautiful pieces exported to the US? I love historical firearms and I find this quite beautiful. Love the work and thank you for the time you put into not only the fun aspect, but the historical context as well.
You have to contact the maker: look for Rafał Ziółko on facebook.
@@capandball Much obliged
11:04 happy Hungarian
excellent !
I think that relatively thin, rounded stock with a its steelband all around its rear end makes it an ideal weapon for close combat: You punched it into your opponents face. Clubbing it over it would have broken the arm. The big disadvantage of the wheellock is its size and hence the huge amount of wood that has to be cut out of the stock, weakening it.
I was also thinking about the use of the club, but these arms were quite expensive for destroying them such a way. And all the soldiers who carried carbines had swords as well for close combat.
@@capandball I would not smash it over one's head, as I said, but punch it into my enemy's face in an emergency. When that movement comes in a straight line the danger of breaking the stock is not that high. I just wonder why the outline of those stocks is so slim. We know that the typical "fishtail" stock of the muskets in the first half of the 17th century was used to "stab" . The upper part of them was often very slim, like a fin, while the lower part was much sturdier.
As for light cavalry, let's not forget the Finns. "Hakka Palle!!!" Great video and fantastic carbine Sir!.
Definitely! An important element of Gustavus Adolphus's light cavalry!
Forgive me but that is "wheely" cool.
Hello Dear Friend, Merry Christmas to you and your family 😍😍😍😍😍🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
these a strictly a flash in the pan
Can you do an experimenr about reloading an Old black powder fire arm in a hurry or panic situation and does over charging the rifle with powder a common thing?
1. Is this cavalry carbine smoothbore or rifled?
2. What kind of cavalry is/are likely to use this carbine?
2.1 Dragoon
2.2 Light Cavalry
2.3 Harquebusier
2.4 Cuirassier
3. Is it possible to use this carbine as horse pistols or is there any examples doing so?
Where did you get that wonderful weapon?! Where can I get one?
Did I hear a dog moving around on wood floors in first minute or so?
Yes, dog spotted!!
Would love to have a wheel lock
I have two original and other replica wheellocks that I shoot on the range. My experience is that after the tenth or so shot they work much slower or even fail. The reason is powder residues that have crept between the wheel and the lockplate or between the wheel and the wheel cover with those locks that have an internal wheel. Powder ashes can even get into the lock and settle in the recess where the hook of the sear has to go in to hold the wheel in its cocked position. On the range that is not a real big problem. I take the lock out and brush away as much of that grey and black ashes as I can. But what did the soldiers do on the battlefield? What about your experiences with powder residues?
Good day. A friend has a wheelock rifle that he has made himself. A talented man and a beautiful piece. He has not been successful with cutting pyrites into slices for the lock. Those crudely shaped too frequently crumble and produce a long lock time. Can you please advise how you cut the slices from the pyrites crystal?
Thank you,
Peter.
Hi, I'll answer this in the next questions and answers video
One of the most desirable of pre-percussion firearms, and one of the most difficult to find as a decent modern reproduction.
In your ad for your boxes on top left a Colt Navy, top right a Remington Army, but what is the revolver on the bottom? The trigger guard is the classic Webley style that was going right through WW2. . At first I thought yours was an RIC, but no. So what is it?
How many times can a wheel lock be fired before it needs maintenance or cleaning? I heard it can only be shot around 10 times before cleaning due to the residue interfering with the disc. Beautiful piece you got btw!
Very interesting indeed! For some reason I have never given the Wheelock a thought, being very much into the early American Longrifles! Very cool! Now I'm wondering if there is anyone out there making those locks and the trigger assemblies! Imagine combining the two different forms, a Wheelock action set up with a long rifled barrel! I have to look into this!
There are some dedicated gunsmiths making excellent wheel locks, but it surely would help to have a large scale manufacturer for them as well.
capandball, agreed! I'd be curious to see if maybe L&R Locks would be interested in making a good one!
The Rifle Shoppe here in the US sells an assembled wheel lock for building a new gun. Be warned: their prices are fairly expensive.
Roger Carroll, thank you!
Nice weapon . obviously it's not an original . who built the one that you're firing ?
I imagine that by intermediate eastern cavalry you refer to formations like Cossacks/Pancerni or Sipahi?
I want one.