How to Tile a Shower Wall...the Mixing Valve Wall -- by Home Repair Tutor
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- Today we're going to discuss how to tile a shower wall...specifically the mixing valve wall. How do you cut holes in tile for tub spouts and mixing valves? Should you lay tile directly on the tub or on spacers?
We answer all these questions in today's video...
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The first thing you should do when tiling a shower is figure out your layout.
Then you should tile the main shower wall, typically this is 5 feet.
We're tiling the mixing valve wall today and this presents some problems for most homeowners.
Particularly when it comes time to cut holes in the tile for the tub spout, shower valve and shower arm.
Using a laser level makes tiling a shower so much easier.
We recommend Bosch's laser level for about $79 (amzn.to/1SJdvjB)
Line up your first row of tiles on the mixing valve wall with the tiles on the main wall.
Steve has several tips in the video to make this look super professional and neat.
Always lay your tile on a 1/16" spacer, not the tub.
And leave a 1/16" gap between the main wall tile and mixing valve tile in the corner.
In this video we used Schluter edging instead of bullnose, it's way cheaper and more modern.
We waited to install the Schluter edging until finished with all the tile but made a pencil mark on the wall to indicate it's location.
Also, when you get to the tub spout you can transfer the dimensions onto your tile.
Use a carbide hole saw to cut the hole in the tile, again, Steve has several recommendations.
For the mixing valve wall you can use a 4 1/2" angle grinder and carbide blade (amzn.to/1RwqQN0) to cut a hole in the tile.
This can be dangerous. So use a wheel guard (unlike us), goggles, gloves, respirator, etc.
Watch the rest of the video to get all of our tips
• How to Tile a Shower W...
To make tiling easier try Tuscan Seam Clips (leveling clips) :
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I’m tired of watching shower videos (mostly cause they stress the hell out of me) but once I start you’re videos I can’t shut em off. A lot of great info here, keep em coming gents!
thank you
A tip for using the holesaw without the pilot drill. Take a piece of 1/4" ply, drill into it with the holesaw, place this template over where you need the hole and drill into the tile using it as a guide, no guessing where centre is and no skidding.
I was going to say that but you beat me to it. I was sliding all over the place until the light bulb went off.
Brilliant advice... Thanks for sharing that.
Cool tip.
That’s one of my biggest problems some
Days!!!!thanks guys
Hi I just found your videos recently. I spent 16 years in basement remodeling after starting my own basement finishing business. I left the industry for 4 years and quit the 9-5, back in home remodeling.
I love what I do again. I’ve since lined up 4 bathroom remodeling jobs and 3 are mud base pans. I’ve done my own tile work for 12 years prior in the basement business. Enough about me, but I love your videos and your tile partner is a real hands in pro. Awesome videos for us with experience but still needing to learn more. Your one of my favorite tile pros to watch and learn from.
Thank you for taking the time to post and help share your knowledge and work. Looking forward to watching more.
Dave
BDI Remodeling - Chicago
a very authentic tile contractor, no covering up real mess or perfect membrane cuts get 'er done this job looks awesome. He can cut holes in tiles for the faucet holes.
+Gordon Lam thanks, Steve definitely gets the job done and it looks pristine in the end. May not look pretty during the process but it works
What I do to use the cheap hole bit is use an old tile and drill the hole in it. Then I use it to as a template for future cuts. Thanks for the helpful video.
The vibe of these two is great haha. Good vs Evil. How normal people do it vs. manufacturer recommendations. Wildn out vs 'use a wheel guard'
Really enjoyed your video. As a DIY'er, the dialog and the "over the shoulder" camera angle were incredibly helpful. You made my bathroom remodel so much easier!!!!
Excellent videos! The best I have ever seen. You do not "assume" things that most other instructional videos do. The step-by-step process is extremely helpful! As someone who used to have a bathroom remodeling business myself, I can honestly say that I learn something from every one of your videos I have viewed. Keep up the good work!
The grinder technique for the valve was awesome Steve
Thanks Antonio
im a do it yourself . this dude is so far the best for working and teaching , thanks to both of you
Good video overall. One problem though. He states to butt the tile tight in the corners- wrong. You need to leave some gap for expansion/contraction, even if it’s only a 1/16”.
One other thing, I don’t know about other tile setters, but I don’t use a notched trowel to butter the back of the tile. A skim coat is all that’s needed- wet to wet. Two notched surfaces is a boat load of thinset.
we should have clarified that and referenced the TCNA handbook. Yes, at least 1/16" to 1/8" expansion/contraction in corners or any change of plane
The other day I changed the light bulb in my bathroom. Tomorrow... I'm redoing my bathroom floor, putting up a tub and putting tiles all around. But seriously, I'm a DYS and after watching your videos and adapting them to my needs and skill level, I'm confident I can do this. And hopefully, there will not be a visit to the emergency room this time.
eddie rospigliosi - Maybe next time, dry your hands before changing the lightbulb!
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I had someone start my shower and never came back. I think I can finish it after watching this!!
Great job I believe it’s better to wait for muddy until you cut tile and you missed to cover bathtubs.this is not easy job you did very good thank you very much for all details
Hey Steve, you guys are great! As someone who teaches people too, except with dogs (you might know me from Animal Planet hosting Good Dog U) I really like the way you guys are so informative in your videos. This particular video is great as I am going to tile my shower this week. We are doing a niche, and doing the pebble floor... so that video came in handy as well! Thanks for all your help! The guys are tearing out the existing 4 x 4 tile, building up the floor of the shower etc, and getting me all set up to tile.
Thanks for that one tip on spacing between tiles and since one of my walls is closer to the hallway, I was thinking that it would need more room for expansion/contraction due to heavy traffic. Also, thanks for those safety tips on health (I too want to enjoy my retirement while not feeling I'm in an Olympic race). Lol! I use a mask whenever I can and cut outside. I don't want extra work either.
I just another video of you guys demonstrating those clips.....ordered! Can't wait to try them and see how they compare to other systems I have tried...thanks
GREAT VIDEO!!!! At around 16:35 minutes into the video, the captions say "indistinguishable". What he actually said was "on a Delta valve..."
I’m in Texas I’m a licensed master plumber. I just opened my company in 12/2019. Here recently my customers have wanted me to tile showers, tubs etc. I’ve watched your videos. Truely awesome by the way. I just bought a wet saw. Trowel for Tile. I’ve tiled with my brother. He at one time use to tile with his father in law. My questions how do I figure out starting point? How much tile? Best dry cutter for tile?
Best dry cutter I know of for tile is an angle grinder with a diamond blade
Video was excellent, very informant, thanks for going step by step, easy to follow.
I am a homeowner DIYer and don't use a blade guard but I do wear safety glasses when working around porcelain shrapnel.
On his second cut he did put some glasses on.
Thank you very much/ I’m excited to start practicing and go for it. I really appreciate the help.
Now that I know how it's done professionally! I can try to do a simple repair without damaging a great initial job.
Rene Andersen 〰️
Brilliant tutorial, great production value, and off course, a damn good job on the tiling. Thank you :)
MrOwl1985 Want to see a real good tile setter check out Sal Diblasi on TH-cam!
@@Dtileandremodeling Yes Sal is Great But this Guy Is a Master As well
I luv the part at 19:40 where you have thinset all over the tile, the tub, your hands hahahaha reminds me of the old days when i did this stuff. lol
A little tip for the hole saw: drill with it through an old sponge so that it fits inside of it, now you only have to dip it into water once to keep the drill cool.
+MrRedRooster thanks for the tips
Home Repair Tutor night
Great tip!
MrRedRooster fh
Is the water for the drill or to prevent the tile from cracking?
liked how to do the holes makes it much easier when you got all the right tools and its your profession not many diyers got the tools
little trick; when you put the Ditra membrane to raise for the glass accent glue the orange side on the wall it make a more level surface to install the glass mosaic...
Great job; pretty efficient in his process. Clearly he's got a method/technique that keeps him moving at a good pace.
having a routine helps keep the tiling on schedule and definitely saves boat loads of time. Steve's been tiling for over 15 years and has learned tons of great skills that he's passing on, he's awesome
home owner must have been excited that Jim Thome was doing their tile work!
This is a very well done tile installation video, using clips, horse shoe shims, and the correct tools. Great job explaining everything and great job SHOWING how it is done. hope you keep getting lots of hits!
+Douglas Payne thank you, appreciate your kind words
people using horse shims for installing metal heavy doors not tiles
Really enjoyed your video.
+mirooo Vuujjj thanks
1.2 million views! Incredible.
Excellent video.
That's beautiful video alaide samples in Everything I do
man I thought I was liberal with the mud... hahaha nice job making me feel ok about my own work 🙂
Great video! Love the 'burgh accent
It's a Delter faucet 😂
Love from Cleveland
The details ae great!!!!!
@ 17:43 Don't wear gloves while using a grinder. Eye and ear protection a must. Great video. Thanks
+David Borchert thanks 👍
but he is a professional and professionals don't get hurt ..hahaa he a superman ..
Thank you for the videos! You kids are doing an amazing job!
really good job, perfectly explained, and interesting tips. he is reckless about safety but it makes it fun to watch lol
+Ivan Fernandez lol, we're working on getting Steve a safety kit. Thanks for the kind words and hope the video helps you 👍
bro i saw that he was missing the tip of his finger and im like....yup lol
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
Putting the profile in after the tiles is interesting. I know their install instructions want you to embed it in mortar first but I like your approach.
I'd have to be a fast tiler to do that, especially using the Mapei thinset I use becasue it starts to setup so quickly. I'd probably use some small screws to secure the threshold in place while tiling if I used them..
mortar doesnt chemically set to alumminum, so you really need to embed it mechanically before hand if you dont want it to crack later down the road. sliding it in just set it inbetween the thinset but doesnt really get thinset embedded into the designed grooves to mechanically set it.
Thanks. Very informative
Some good tips there , thanks guys
Steve is amazing and works real clean!
seriously?
Great Job
See your using the Kerdi system. Love that product & company. Makes doing bathroom etc...really "easy" if know what doing. Compared to other ways, do like the Kerdi products they have.
I'm not using a guard or wearing gloves an a dust mask until Steve does! 🤪
Vera 1957 - But he is a pro and so doesn’t need them!
I used Daltile and Schluter edging for my bathroom upgrade project too! Not cheap - but great quality. I did not completely trust my measurement/hole-cutting skills so I just notched the tiles on the "plumbing wall" and now it's hidden by the mixing valve escutcheon plate. Thanks for the vid.
Steve, referencing the video at 13:35 -- I can see how the Schluter Kerdi board on the shower wall warps/bends as you push to set the tile. I've always been concerned about the rigidity of these products (Wedi as well) and if they provide sufficient support for the tile installation. After all that work, I wouldn't want to lean on the wall while taking a showed and loose a tile or two. What's your take on these backboards vs the fiber cement HardieBacker board, or even cement floating the wall? Purely in terms of longevity and durability of the installation, waterproofing aside.
Firms up and gets rigid once thinset dries. As long as you have good coverage by collapsing the ridges your good.
nice work
thank you
Great job in his process. Thank you
thank you, hope the tips help
I could comment few , but one is for example , bathtub isn't protected with protective sheets and rims of bathtub that could be easy scratched , I tape and protect all around and in bathtub, when tile work is completed I remove protection prior grouting .
Great tips, thanks for sharing 😊😊😊
Thanks
Thank you, Adam and Steve :)
How long can the thinset be exposed after being troweled on to the wall? It seems like it would start to dry rather quickly, effecting the bond. You guys cut tiles as you go, leaving the thinset exposed...of course as I type this, I realize you have to cut as you go because the pieces will all be slightly different. How long in real time did it take to tile the mixing valve wall? I love your videos, very clear and informative. Thanks
good questions and the pot life of each thin-set is a bit different. That said, Ardex X77 is the thin-set we used and we applied it to the wall as we tiled. You can safely finish a plumbing wall without the X77 skinning over but if it does, simply mix up another batch. It will take each person different amounts of time to do the mixing valve wall but Steve did it in 1.5 hours, primarily due to filming ;)
Its nice to see that even pros are messy with the mortor... I thought it was just me. : )
Not we are not!!
Most pros wouldn't have shmeered out more than a few drops of excess 😕🧐🤢
haha! I thought the same thing. I'm no pro who do this day in and day out, but my work looks pro even though I am a bit messy.
Love it. Good stuff.
Thank you for your videos....they have helped me so much!
Cool, happy they’ve helped! There are a lot more on Bathroom Repair Tutor
Home Repair Tutor i will be checking out your other videos.
Thanks guys very good video 📹 👍 👌
Thanks buddy 👍🏼
I little good advice. Put down some blue tape and then a sheet of plywood it protects the tub from scratches and gives you a platform to work on just saying i have seen bone heads get suied.
Very dirty and dangerous worker I've not met any body in Britain who would shlap around tile cement with bare hands ,big deal he can cut holes using grinder indoors with no handle or guard no mask no eye protection wow I wouldn't employ him ..
@@georginapeers293 All that matters is the finished job. Does it look good is it water proof, level and plumb he checks all the boxes. May be you prefer someone that is cleaner an does a bad job. When your house was built you were probably not there to see if everyone had eye protection or used their bare hands and by the way he probably does not want to work for you anyway.
I'm messy with the thinset too (just me), but I overprotect the surfaces though. No one will ever know how messy I was with the thinset when they see the finish job. Professional.
I love you Steve. You are awesome. Talented.
ok here is a question.. I used green dry wall (humid) areas used some kind of waterproof rubber paint on membrane and then used light cement mortar to do my tiles. I also used this Mapei band for all the corners and the area where the drywall touches the tile base. I figure it was good enough.. Not everyone has big budgets
+chado1231 Mapei makes quality materials. Sounds like you possibly used Hydroban or a similar liquid membrane for waterproofing
I think you should tile the ceiling...its so much fun
I did mine in penny tile and white grout and it looks clean and shiny and next to the light it sparkles. Hard job but worth it.
youre asking for a headache
The fact he's a "pro" should be setting an example for newbies trying to learn. Breathing even a little of ceramic dust one time can have lasting health problems. Otherwise great info
I am about to retile the shower in my mother-in-law's bathroom, to save her some money from hiring professionals, and this video was extremely helpful. Thanks! By the way, do they sell those blue seam clips at Home Depot do you know?
glad it helped, SeamClips aren't at the Home Depot. Those are online over on Amazon. We also like T-Lock's system a little better. What size tiles are you setting?
Stupid question forgive my ignorance...... how to tile a wall that had a slight curve to it? Wall curved tile flat
to achieve the radius you'll have to cut tiles to smaller proportions
Thanks for the great videos. Each time I TH-cam a how to video you keep popping up. I enjoy your easy to follow style of teaching. Keep up the great work.
Forget the tape use a framing square to make perfect measuresments it never fails.
The reason for no wheel guard is that it gets in the way of the cut and even with it you can still get cut so just be careful
cya when your blade explode, I tile for a living everyday and the guard doesnt get in the way, if anything it acts as a support for many cuts.
How about a video explaining the use and function of those blue clips.
We did this video th-cam.com/video/ZePv817tg4A/w-d-xo.html
The only complaint for these Tuscan seamclips (other than the cost since they are pricy) is that they often snap off prematurely when tightening them. Then you have to pull the last tile off to put in a new clip.
Very good job!
Great job explaining the Schluter system and how to tile a shower/tub wall. I saw a few of your videos and did my own large tile install with mosaic accents and it came out great. Schluter is great and easy to use. Thank you for the videos!
Have one question... Should I paint before I tile the floor or afterwards? I'll be using Ditra for the flooring.
schluter is ugly and tacky
good video thank you
"Professional" or not, that tub is going to be scratched to hell how he's working in there like that. I can't count the number of times if told tile guys to protect the tub, then they don't and they end up having to take out the bottom row of tile and have to pay out of pocket for a new tub and pay my plumber to uninstall and reinstall the tub. Why is he going to caulk the corner? If he's used the schluter system for waterproofing the walls, then just leave a grout joint in the corner then seal the hell out of it.
I can’t believe this was overlooked, as well as the poor professionalism over all with a good enough mentality
My husband and I watched this and all throughout, I kept thinking and saying how scratched that tub was going to be but of course, we don’t see that. This is not the guy I would want working on our biggest investment…our home. Plus, the narrator shouldn’t have to continuously explain, justify, and defend what installer was doing wrong.
He’s just showing a video of how “he does it” .. kudos
Interesting, wish you could help me better understand this, or recommend any good videos.
Never put grout in a corner of a shower even if it’s waterproofed the cornered grout lines will crack and your waterproofing will become water holding quick we’ll see how long that last lol always caulk the corners all of them
Safety glasses when using power tools! But great tiling tips thanks
Thanks I learned some great pointers and I feel ready to tackle my shower tile project!
Thanks Steve!
High quality video thanks...subscribed!
Love your videos
Cool tips! A lot of it I had heard from my tile instructor, which is good … that means we got systems that work! And as it is a little slow right now I’m getting some good learning to keep my muscle memory strong! Thanks… question he snuck the schluter in … does that mean the thunder was still wet behind the tile ? So was this a one day job? (The back wall) how many hours?
Helpful video, but you should really wear a respirator when cutting or grinding tile since it contains silica.
12:45 always leave a gap between tiles....never rely on just caulk. If you can cut tiles efficiently then you don't need to worry about your gap varying as you go up. PRO TIP!
+judge lpf totally agree and that gap should be equidistant from each tile for a professional finished look. What we were trying to explain was the gap should be minimal (1/16") and even 👍
Please permit 2 questions. #1 You state the tiles are ceramic. Do the hole saws work the same way with porcelain? #2 Isn't porcelain the preferred tile in a bathroom due to the humidity factor?
All the talent in his hands and he jeopardize it by taking the guard of the grinder
It's a diamond blade, not a saw blade.
Hi I didn't see Steve using straight edge to check the vertical level and flatness, so as long as it look good and no lippag are acceptable, is that right? Thanks
we used a laser level to check for plumb and SeamClips for lippage as well as feeling by hand
Very nice
What do you fill the empty space behind the big shower valves with? Mortar? Silicon? Grout? Tile adhesive?
Nice Job, very informative
That tile guy was the real deal
Excellent video...Thx.
you would never put a heavy tile on top of a mosaic border(netted)... i would wait till the next day for that top tile course. all those spacers!!! lol
protip ☝
Great video! Thanks!
Music-Cool...what is that, “Starsky and Hutch theme”?
What do you use between to tub and the tile? Schluter edging? Caulk? Grout?
What type of thin set are you using in the shower? What do you use on the floor of a tiled shower?
When do you use a wet saw and when do you use a scratch cutter?
Safety first always ..
I didn't catch when to use the bright metal spacers or the black spacers. Did you discuss when to use which? and what are they called when one goes looking for them at a retail store?