I am an active member of the church, and I always watch your other RFM shows plus the ones with Bill Reel and others. I have been a member all my life , coming from people who joined in Missouri and crossed the plains. I do not intend to leave the church. That said, I still am very aware of the flaws of the church and the people who lead. I too have questioned things through the years. I think this is an amazing lesson and I also loved the artwork. I do not know the answer to the similarities, but they definitely are there. Please keep providing this alternative for those of us who are open minded thinkers.
I look forward to saying “This dream must have been super important to god, because JS senior had the same dream”., in the next Sundays school class. The spirit can testify of the truthfulness of this fact.
What an eye opening lesson. Thank you RFM for researching Lehi's Dream with Lucy Mach Smith retelling of Joseph Smith Sr. dream. I love this channel and also your BRUSH UP YOUR SHAKESPEARE channel. I look forward to each of them weekly. I am learning so much.
“It is a time-honored adage that love begets love. Let us pour forth love-show forth our kindness unto all mankind, and the Lord will reward us with everlasting increase; cast our bread upon the waters and we shall receive it after many days, increased to a hundredfold.” Joseph Smith
Great show tonight! I think it was ballsy for JS to use his father’s dream in the BOM! And how did his mother not notice and call him out! Thanks for all your hard work RFM! You’re awesome❤
I wonder what Lucy was thinking by retelling the dream. Could she not see how it would point to Joseph Jr looking like a fraud? So many of the earliest players in Mormon history appear credulous beyond compare.
I read Joseph Smith Sr.'s dream in Lucy's biography of JS many years ago when I was visiting my parents-in-law's house. My first thought was, "Wow! Have my in-laws actually read this book or has it just sat on the shelf?!" I appreciate your step-by-step comparison, RFM. I love Mormon Sunday School.
In high school, I had art class in the mornings after seminary. I made an oil pastel drawing of the tree of life vision, thinking I had a cool and original idea. Guess not, lol. My idea was as original as... Lehi's dream. 😂
Did anyone else pray very sincerely as a child to be shown this dream because of what it says in Nephi? Or was that just me? Lol I really thought if I prayed hard enough I would get to see this oh so special dream too, but when that didn’t happen I decided it was either because I wasn’t faithful enough or because God didn’t need me (a girl with zero priesthood power or influence in this system) to see it. Breaks my heart for little me now.
ExMo here. RFM, just an observation. Could another possibility be that JS Sr. actually had a dream in 1811 and when she later described it, she used some of the verbiage of the dream in 1 Nephi? This seems most likely to me if we allow that JS Sr. had a dream of some sort to begin with. Either way, JS Jr. still could have used dad’s dream as a crib.
I've had so many dreams within the faith during my baptism confirmation prior to meeting the missionaries and I've had so many amazing dreams as a member
RFM, brilliant analysis of both Lehi’s dream with a splash of Nephi’s version, comparing the obvious parallels between them and Joseph Smith Sr. Dream. Thank you for your tireless efforts to bring truth to the forefront of all truth seekers regardless of religious beliefs.
I'm really mad that Brigham Young banned Lucy Mack Smith's original book. He went out of his way to stop her speaking the truth. Brigham was a dictator control freak. That being said, I really enjoyed this video, it gives you an idea how this spiritual book might have been a Lord of the rings, Lion And the robe. As usual excellent video, research, presentation and on point. Thank you.
23:37 I feel like the smile here was because he wanted to say “it’s magically delicious!” Like in the Lucky Charms commercial. I could be wrong, but it definitely sounded like it. 😅Great video!
The case for the BoM being a literal translation is collapsing. If the church just admitted from the beginning that the BoM was historical fiction/allegory, we would not be in this same predicament. This goes 2 ways, with the church losing credibility in both. 1. They maintain the book is a literal translation (and all that comes with that) and it is proven otherwise, or 2. With the preponderance of evidence, they shift to it being historical fiction/allegory. This was a great lesson. I had never heard about this 1811 account of JS Sr.’s dream. Strikingly similar to Levi’s dream. I think a fascinating analysis would be to prove if Nephi is really just Joseph Smith writing himself into the text, as a hero/historical figure. Maybe it’s been done. Keep it up RFM.
I've been listening to the "My Book of Mormon" over the past year or so. It was difficult to resist the impulse to say "drink!" after every instance of "it came to pass!" Although I'm a never mo, I really am enjoying this Mormon Sunday School.
I believe that Lucy Mack Smith kept a journal from a young age. So I'm presuming that he had an account of her husband is dream when it happened in 1811
The man dressed in white who told Lehi to follow him, led him into a dreary wilderness….about a year ago I came to the conclusion that the man dressed in white is a lds church leader in the temple….it wasn’t until Lehi turned to god that he was led out of that wilderness and eventually to God, the fruit/tree of life.
I think it was Bryce Blankenagel who said JS Sr’s description of the fruit greatly resembles a datura plant. Not the first time psychoactive substances have been posited as the catalyst for those early “spiritual” experiences in the church.
As I was listening to this I think I saw another plot hole in the BOM. Lehi saw Sariah, Nephi and Sam at the tree but not Laban and Lemuel. Later in the story we find that Nephi had sisters (2 Nephi 5:6). Why didn't Lehi wish his daughters were there, or at least not mention them? Surely if he named all of his family by name he would mention his daughters? JS senior mentioned his seven children, at least those he had at the time which by the number included his daughters, but not JS in the BOM. does anyone else see this as a plot hole?
I’m PIMO and I’ve really enjoyed these CFM lessons. I enjoy the perspective and venturing into paths not discussed in church. One point of analysis coming from this episode is from FAIR options. In option, 3 RFM compared mixing real experiences with fiction from the BoM. IMO it is closer to mixing up a fictional story told by aunt Betty with the fictional story in the BoM. The experience of hearing aunt Betty tell the story is real but the story itself is fictional. It requires one to keep the details of 2 fictional story separate and not mix them. So I can see how option 3 can be used by FAIR. The fact that the 2 stories are similar but still different enough, I lean towards JS jr used the story as influence for the BoM. One just simply has to ask: If the BoM is true, original, and authentic then why does JS Sr have a similar story (with different details) to that of what is in the BoM at all?
If FAIR suggested it was a coincidence then they would immediately be disregarded. Also to immediately discredit the 3rd counter on Lucy you have to remember she’s writing this down 33 years later about a dream Joseph Sr had. How many times did Joseph Sr talk about his dream? What if he had a dream about getting lost in a field, but then found a rope that lead him to some fruit. I could see how that eventually becomes the story Lucy writes down. Lucy writes it like he’s telling her in the moment or transposing it from a journal but if it’s from memory it’s 33 years of memory decay… unless you all can remember stuff way better then me from 30 years ago.
“It is a time-honored adage that love begets love. Let us pour forth love-show forth our kindness unto all mankind, and the Lord will reward us with everlasting increase; cast our bread upon the waters and we shall receive it after many days, increased to a hundredfold.” Joseph Smith
RFM...Are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing and fellowship or have you been disfellowshipped or excommunicated? Just wondering. Thanks!
Your comments come across very much like the "fair game" policy that another modern religion practices. Maybe take a look at that and see that trolling with kindness really does not come across very flattering.
I don't have a problem with the dreams. * No second source for the Joseph Smith Sr dream. No other mentions of it by any of the large Smith family, in-laws, friends, other church members, etc. No one mentions it. * Lucy Mack Smith was recalling this dream at 70 yrs old, having only recently buried two of her sons --victims of crime. Sorry RFM, there's no smoking gun here. No offense to the Smith Brothers.
good question. Hope someone can confirm either way. Funny thing is I can still recall many of my father's stories now, told to me 45 years ago. They are embedded into my memories like stone because as a child I trusted my father and believed what he told me.
43:06 great analysis except for the attempted debunking of LMS potentially mixing up a dream of her husband’s with the BOM account. Love you, RFM, but your framing as mixing up story with real life is a clear straw man, when what is suggested is confusing two different dreams. It happens all the time, and especially in an early frontier superstitious context, it’s really not unlikely at all. You’ve got to present an actual argument rather than just mock what the idea as being ridiculous.
Another excellent lesson! I really enjoyed the artwork as I’m very visual. The parallels are another very telling example that everything JS ever did was fraudulent. Such a con artist. What’s the expression? If you want to make a LOT of money, invent a religion or a diet plan.
All of Joseph Sr's kids were born in Vermont, from 1797 up until - Birth: of Katharine Smith 28 July 1813. Lebanon, Grafton, "New Hampshire", United States. The birth: of Don Carlos Smith, 25 March 1816 Norwich, Windsor, back in "Vermont", United States. The family left Vermont in 1816. Then Lucy Smith their last child was born 18 July 1821 Manchester, Ontario, "New York", United States. Joseph Smith Sr. should have been in Vermont in 1811 when he supposedly had that dream in NY???????? He was in Vermont, likely participating in the New Israelites.
Lucy Max Smith's account of the dream can not be trusted because the fact that it was recorded decades later than it supposedly happened makes it unreliable. You haven't presented any record of the dream when it happened. Also, you have not presented any record that was made at the time that Joseph Smith heard this about this dream.
I came across your channel believing the name of your channel. I watched two episodes and am disappointed that you misrepresented principles clearly taught by the church and easily found on the churches website. But then it's not your intention to honestly portray the churches beliefs. I mean the name of your channel is a lie. Two scriptures for you, words of our Savior, Jesus Christ. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16). "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." (John 13:35).
You will find me more honest than most Mormons. That’s why I’m here. Stick around if you want to hear the truth. Don’t stick around if the truth scares you. Thanks for listening!
Kenny, could it be that the principles “clearly taught by the church and easily found on its website” don’t actually reflect what the text says but what the leaders want the members to believe it says? Radio Free Mormon clearly discloses on the thumbnail and at the beginning of each episode that this is not what you’ll learn in SS. I’m nearly 70; I’ve had enough of the same interpretation rehashed every 4 years. Not you?
RFM...Are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing and fellowship or have you been disfellowshipped or excommunicated? Just wondering...
I have neither been disfellowshipped nor excommunicated. Not even put on probation! But if I had it wouldn’t affect the content of my podcasts in the least.
Are you an active (active meaning attending church, having a calling & doing your best to fulfill it, etc.) member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing? If I asked your Bishop, do you think he would recommend your youtube channel as a place to get honest information about gospel topics? Do you support and follow the Prophet and other General Authorities? Thanks for answering! I appreciate it!❤
I thought your jokes were funny RFM😜👍🏻 It was my first time in a few years reading (hearing) the Book of Mormon and I was actually surprised how badly written it is! 🫣😆 all those “and it came to passes” make the text sound so ridiculous!
I am an active member of the church, and I always watch your other RFM shows plus the ones with Bill Reel and others. I have been a member all my life , coming from people who joined in Missouri and crossed the plains. I do not intend to leave the church. That said, I still am very aware of the flaws of the church and the people who lead. I too have questioned things through the years. I think this is an amazing lesson and I also loved the artwork. I do not know the answer to the similarities, but they definitely are there. Please keep providing this alternative for those of us who are open minded thinkers.
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I was a missionary when I stumbled across JS Sr.'s dream. I was shocked and wondered why this was never covered in church.
And it came to pass that I liked the video. And it came to pass that I subscribed to the channel.
LOL!!
RFM helps me look forward to Sunday School.
I am an active member of the church, and I always watch your other RFM shows plus the ones with Bill Reel and others. I have been a member all my life , coming from people who joined in Missouri and crossed the plains. I do not intend to leave the church. That said, I still am very aware of the flaws of the church and the people who lead. I too have questioned things through the years. I think this is an amazing lesson and I also loved the artwork. I do not know the answer to the similarities, but they definitely are there. Please keep providing this alternative for those of us who are open minded thinkers.
You are so awesome! I wish there were more LDS like you who don’t feel threatened by exploring and learning. Thanks!! :)
@kahalakohl4010 I am too;-) I agree. Good on ya💯
@jewelgazer Your wish has come true. I am also a very open-minded active member of the church ;-)
I look forward to saying “This dream must have been super important to god, because JS senior had the same dream”., in the next Sundays school class. The spirit can testify of the truthfulness of this fact.
What an eye opening lesson. Thank you RFM for researching Lehi's Dream with Lucy Mach Smith retelling of Joseph Smith Sr. dream. I love this channel and also your BRUSH UP YOUR SHAKESPEARE channel. I look forward to each of them weekly. I am learning so much.
I really am learning stuff I NEVER did learn in Sunday school! Thanks RFM!
Another masterpiece. Great job RFM!
So far I have learned that Joseph Smith's mother was a much better writer than he was.
…so a co-author? 😉
And it came to pass that you write the truth!
“It is a time-honored adage that love begets love. Let us pour forth love-show forth our kindness unto all mankind, and the Lord will reward us with everlasting increase; cast our bread upon the waters and we shall receive it after many days, increased to a hundredfold.” Joseph Smith
Awesome 😎, thanks again RFM
Great show tonight! I think it was ballsy for JS to use his father’s dream in the BOM! And how did his mother not notice and call him out! Thanks for all your hard work RFM! You’re awesome❤
Kind of shows how he got 8 witnesses.
Excellent work! Loved the side by side analysis. Artwork is beautiful.
I wonder what Lucy was thinking by retelling the dream. Could she not see how it would point to Joseph Jr looking like a fraud? So many of the earliest players in Mormon history appear credulous beyond compare.
I read Joseph Smith Sr.'s dream in Lucy's biography of JS many years ago when I was visiting my parents-in-law's house. My first thought was, "Wow! Have my in-laws actually read this book or has it just sat on the shelf?!"
I appreciate your step-by-step comparison, RFM. I love Mormon Sunday School.
Loved it RFM!
I love these analyses. Thank you!
In high school, I had art class in the mornings after seminary. I made an oil pastel drawing of the tree of life vision, thinking I had a cool and original idea. Guess not, lol. My idea was as original as... Lehi's dream. 😂
Did anyone else pray very sincerely as a child to be shown this dream because of what it says in Nephi? Or was that just me? Lol I really thought if I prayed hard enough I would get to see this oh so special dream too, but when that didn’t happen I decided it was either because I wasn’t faithful enough or because God didn’t need me (a girl with zero priesthood power or influence in this system) to see it. Breaks my heart for little me now.
That is very sad 😢
ExMo here. RFM, just an observation. Could another possibility be that JS Sr. actually had a dream in 1811 and when she later described it, she used some of the verbiage of the dream in 1 Nephi? This seems most likely to me if we allow that JS Sr. had a dream of some sort to begin with.
Either way, JS Jr. still could have used dad’s dream as a crib.
40:40 The details in the lesson are on point! Thank you SO much for your time and alllll the info ❤❤❤❤
Fantastic episode thanks RFM!
Great content. Thx. Keep it coming.
Thanks RFM 👍 Interesting info
I've had so many dreams within the faith during my baptism confirmation prior to meeting the missionaries and I've had so many amazing dreams as a member
Nice job, Big R!!
RFM, brilliant analysis of both Lehi’s dream with a splash of Nephi’s version, comparing the obvious parallels between them and Joseph Smith Sr. Dream. Thank you for your tireless efforts to bring truth to the forefront of all truth seekers regardless of religious beliefs.
Fabulous!!!!❤❤❤
Excellent research RFM
I'm really mad that Brigham Young banned Lucy Mack Smith's original book. He went out of his way to stop her speaking the truth. Brigham was a dictator control freak. That being said, I really enjoyed this video, it gives you an idea how this spiritual book might have been a Lord of the rings, Lion And the robe. As usual excellent video, research, presentation and on point. Thank you.
23:37 I feel like the smile here was because he wanted to say “it’s magically delicious!” Like in the Lucky Charms commercial. I could be wrong, but it definitely sounded like it. 😅Great video!
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The case for the BoM being a literal translation is collapsing. If the church just admitted from the beginning that the BoM was historical fiction/allegory, we would not be in this same predicament. This goes 2 ways, with the church losing credibility in both. 1. They maintain the book is a literal translation (and all that comes with that) and it is proven otherwise, or 2. With the preponderance of evidence, they shift to it being historical fiction/allegory.
This was a great lesson. I had never heard about this 1811 account of JS Sr.’s dream. Strikingly similar to Levi’s dream.
I think a fascinating analysis would be to prove if Nephi is really just Joseph Smith writing himself into the text, as a hero/historical figure. Maybe it’s been done.
Keep it up RFM.
I don't understand how anyone could be bored with Leah's vision ???
Loving this!🧡
As a NeverMo, you always make Mormonism fascinating. Today's episode was just one more example. I loved it!
I've been listening to the "My Book of Mormon" over the past year or so. It was difficult to resist the impulse to say "drink!" after every instance of "it came to pass!"
Although I'm a never mo, I really am enjoying this Mormon Sunday School.
I believe that Lucy Mack Smith kept a journal from a young age. So I'm presuming that he had an account of her husband is dream when it happened in 1811
Very interesting!
The man dressed in white who told Lehi to follow him, led him into a dreary wilderness….about a year ago I came to the conclusion that the man dressed in white is a lds church leader in the temple….it wasn’t until Lehi turned to god that he was led out of that wilderness and eventually to God, the fruit/tree of life.
I think it was Bryce Blankenagel who said JS Sr’s description of the fruit greatly resembles a datura plant. Not the first time psychoactive substances have been posited as the catalyst for those early “spiritual” experiences in the church.
The symbolism in Lehi's dream is powerful
As I was listening to this I think I saw another plot hole in the BOM. Lehi saw Sariah, Nephi and Sam at the tree but not Laban and Lemuel. Later in the story we find that Nephi had sisters (2 Nephi 5:6). Why didn't Lehi wish his daughters were there, or at least not mention them? Surely if he named all of his family by name he would mention his daughters? JS senior mentioned his seven children, at least those he had at the time which by the number included his daughters, but not JS in the BOM. does anyone else see this as a plot hole?
2:38 yes yes yes!!! Going there!! 💣💣💣
Excellent analysis abd comparison! Than you!
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Hey, FairMormon, Lucy wouldn't have misremembered her husband saying there were two more children. That impacts her directly.
I’m PIMO and I’ve really enjoyed these CFM lessons. I enjoy the perspective and venturing into paths not discussed in church. One point of analysis coming from this episode is from FAIR options. In option, 3 RFM compared mixing real experiences with fiction from the BoM. IMO it is closer to mixing up a fictional story told by aunt Betty with the fictional story in the BoM. The experience of hearing aunt Betty tell the story is real but the story itself is fictional. It requires one to keep the details of 2 fictional story separate and not mix them. So I can see how option 3 can be used by FAIR. The fact that the 2 stories are similar but still different enough, I lean towards JS jr used the story as influence for the BoM. One just simply has to ask: If the BoM is true, original, and authentic then why does JS Sr have a similar story (with different details) to that of what is in the BoM at all?
If FAIR suggested it was a coincidence then they would immediately be disregarded. Also to immediately discredit the 3rd counter on Lucy you have to remember she’s writing this down 33 years later about a dream Joseph Sr had. How many times did Joseph Sr talk about his dream? What if he had a dream about getting lost in a field, but then found a rope that lead him to some fruit. I could see how that eventually becomes the story Lucy writes down. Lucy writes it like he’s telling her in the moment or transposing it from a journal but if it’s from memory it’s 33 years of memory decay… unless you all can remember stuff way better then me from 30 years ago.
Great point
“It is a time-honored adage that love begets love. Let us pour forth love-show forth our kindness unto all mankind, and the Lord will reward us with everlasting increase; cast our bread upon the waters and we shall receive it after many days, increased to a hundredfold.” Joseph Smith
That sounds a lot of soggy bread!
@@AvadenSV definitely edified by that utterance.
Glad I found you
Circular dreams = Circular writing of the Bo M.
Ready
Is this tree of life the same tree that is found in Genesis? Or is it something completely different?
Lehi's dream can be experienced by anyone who is willing to be teachable and taught by the Holy Ghost
Also, Lehi had Jacob and Joseph after the vision.
If you are using AI generated images I think it is OK to say so. Otherwise maybe one should give a shout out to the artist(?). Good stuff thank you.
RFM...Are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing and fellowship or have you been disfellowshipped or excommunicated? Just wondering. Thanks!
He is still a member but has been inactive for many years
Your comments come across very much like the "fair game" policy that another modern religion practices. Maybe take a look at that and see that trolling with kindness really does not come across very flattering.
There is a forth option. Lucy lied and just made up Joseph Smith Sr. having a dream.
I don't have a problem with the dreams.
* No second source for the Joseph Smith Sr dream. No other mentions of it by any of the large Smith family, in-laws, friends, other church members, etc. No one mentions it.
* Lucy Mack Smith was recalling this dream at 70 yrs old, having only recently buried two of her sons --victims of crime.
Sorry RFM, there's no smoking gun here. No offense to the Smith Brothers.
Was there a written record of Senior’s dream available to Junior ?
good question. Hope someone can confirm either way. Funny thing is I can still recall many of my father's stories now, told to me 45 years ago. They are embedded into my memories like stone because as a child I trusted my father and believed what he told me.
Its always someone elses fault....poor lucy is not awarded her truth..😮
And yet another nail in the coffin.
43:06 great analysis except for the attempted debunking of LMS potentially mixing up a dream of her husband’s with the BOM account. Love you, RFM, but your framing as mixing up story with real life is a clear straw man, when what is suggested is confusing two different dreams. It happens all the time, and especially in an early frontier superstitious context, it’s really not unlikely at all. You’ve got to present an actual argument rather than just mock what the idea as being ridiculous.
YES 😂
First there is spiritual darkness and bondage
Another excellent lesson! I really enjoyed the artwork as I’m very visual. The parallels are another very telling example that everything JS ever did was fraudulent. Such a con artist. What’s the expression? If you want to make a LOT of money, invent a religion or a diet plan.
I enjoyed the artwork as well.
All of Joseph Sr's kids were born in Vermont, from 1797 up until - Birth: of Katharine Smith 28 July 1813. Lebanon, Grafton, "New Hampshire", United States.
The birth: of Don Carlos Smith, 25 March 1816 Norwich, Windsor, back in "Vermont", United States. The family left Vermont in 1816.
Then Lucy Smith their last child was born 18 July 1821 Manchester, Ontario, "New York", United States.
Joseph Smith Sr. should have been in Vermont in 1811 when he supposedly had that dream in NY????????
He was in Vermont, likely participating in the New Israelites.
They were living in Vermont in 1811 - the family.
Are u really representing the church? Or the other way around?It seems your lessons are not in line with church teachings.
JS wrote em both ,,white and dark like the enoch or essenes scrolls
Lucy Max Smith's account of the dream can not be trusted because the fact that it was recorded decades later than it supposedly happened makes it unreliable. You haven't presented any record of the dream when it happened. Also, you have not presented any record that was made at the time that Joseph Smith heard this about this dream.
White fruit, sounds like mushrooms to me
I came across your channel believing the name of your channel. I watched two episodes and am disappointed that you misrepresented principles clearly taught by the church and easily found on the churches website. But then it's not your intention to honestly portray the churches beliefs. I mean the name of your channel is a lie. Two scriptures for you, words of our Savior, Jesus Christ. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16). "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." (John 13:35).
You will find me more honest than most Mormons. That’s why I’m here. Stick around if you want to hear the truth. Don’t stick around if the truth scares you. Thanks for listening!
Kenny, could it be that the principles “clearly taught by the church and easily found on its website” don’t actually reflect what the text says but what the leaders want the members to believe it says? Radio Free Mormon clearly discloses on the thumbnail and at the beginning of each episode that this is not what you’ll learn in SS. I’m nearly 70; I’ve had enough of the same interpretation rehashed every 4 years. Not you?
RFM...Are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing and fellowship or have you been disfellowshipped or excommunicated? Just wondering...
I have neither been disfellowshipped nor excommunicated. Not even put on probation! But if I had it wouldn’t affect the content of my podcasts in the least.
Are you an active (active meaning attending church, having a calling & doing your best to fulfill it, etc.) member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in good standing? If I asked your Bishop, do you think he would recommend your youtube channel as a place to get honest information about gospel topics? Do you support and follow the Prophet and other General Authorities?
Thanks for answering! I appreciate it!❤
I thought your jokes were funny RFM😜👍🏻
It was my first time in a few years reading (hearing) the Book of Mormon and I was actually surprised how badly written it is! 🫣😆 all those “and it came to passes” make the text sound so ridiculous!
I am an active member of the church, and I always watch your other RFM shows plus the ones with Bill Reel and others. I have been a member all my life , coming from people who joined in Missouri and crossed the plains. I do not intend to leave the church. That said, I still am very aware of the flaws of the church and the people who lead. I too have questioned things through the years. I think this is an amazing lesson and I also loved the artwork. I do not know the answer to the similarities, but they definitely are there. Please keep providing this alternative for those of us who are open minded thinkers.
When an honestly mistaken man sees the truth, one of two things happens: (1) he will either cease to be mistaken, or (2) he will cease to be honest. For he will either accept the truth or he will reject it. If he accepts it, he is no longer mistaken; if he rejects it, he is no longer honest. It is as simple as that. There cannot be such a thing as an “honestly mistaken man” who has once seen the truth.