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Steven about releasing an album during the pandemic, falling out of love with the guitar, the origins of his new album The Future Bites, living in an electronic world, Eddie van Halen, King Ghost, an exciting songwriting process, making the characters he writes about believable, creativity and technology, the internet changing human nature, the decline of truth and reality, positive change, the year 2032 an consumer culture, curiosity being under threat.
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Video interview with English musician, singer, songwriter and producer Steven Wilson. FaceCulture spoke with Steven about releasing an album during the pandemic, falling out of love with the guitar, the origins of his new album The Future Bites, living in an electronic world, Eddie van Halen, King Ghost, an exciting songwriting process, making the characters he writes about believable, creativity and technology, the internet changing human nature, the decline of truth and reality, positive change, the year 2032 an consumer culture, curiosity being under threat, the notion of rebellion changing, and a lot more! (07/01/2021)
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Time Lapse
0:55 How hard was put out an album in a pandemic?
3:10 How was the starting point for "The Future Bites"?
3:35 Thougts of Steven on the Guitar
5:08 Thoughts of Steven on the sound of the "TFB"
6:08 Thoughts on Classic Rock/Metal Solos
8:15 Thougts on the passed away of Eddie Van Halen
9:35 First song purely electronic music on the Record "TFB"
11:30 Enthusiasm on not writing on the guitar
13:50 Struggle on the lyrics on the album (Specially 12 Things i forgot)
16:24 How Technology its gonna change human comunnication, beaviour and emotions
18:05 The illusion of self thruth on the social media. (fake news, etc.)
20:00 On Veganism and Vegetarianism
21:30 The concept of the "future" on the album
25:00 What its the best way to live with modern technology?
26:20 The dangerous side of the comfort zone with modern thecnology (videogames, etc)
28:10 Are the old times better?
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Do we really need more fake celebrities? What else is Wilson supposed to say if Eddie's death didn't affect him? Was he supposed to lie or kiss ass? Eddie's death was as sad as anybody's death. You're not obligated to care especially when you didn't personally know the guy.
Yeah - I liked Eddie's playing quite a bit, but Steven isn't wrong - Eddie was one of the biggest influences on the shredders. My favorite guitar players aren't shredders. I like guys like Brian May.
Saying EVH's death didn't affect him is one thing. Questioning EVH's LEGACY because he considers him the father of the "shredder" movement (which he calls "vile") is another. Just because HE dosent like "fast" guitarist doesn't mean that their legacies should be downplayed or forgotten. 🤔
Always love listening to SW speak on current issues. I've definitely spent a lot of time on video games, but the older I get the more I am leaning towards the opinion that they are a waste of time. Not always of course, because people can definitely have meaningful experiences with video games, but I do think that people might be sacrificing valuable time that couldve been spent learning other more practical skills.
Got an email this morning that my box set and other goodies had shipped out. I cant wait to get my hands on it. I have decided that I am going to avoid listening to the album before I receive the physical product. I want it in the lyric sheet in my hands for the first time i listen. Im 22 and this will be the first time ever having that kind of experience. Steven mentioned in the interview people always having nostalgia for their teenage years. strangely i have nostalgia for times when I was not even alive.
Bless you
Want to wish you well in that opening the package moment etc
To all offended Eddie Van Halen fans: He didn't offend EVH in any way. He even said that Eddie was an extraordinary musician. He just haven't been touched by his death. Not everyone needs to be upset just because you're upset. Chill out
What I found offensive was his mischaracterization of Eddie’s place in music history. It was totally inaccurate and uninformed. I’m not a fan of Neil Peart or Rush, and I wouldn’t pretend that Neil’s death personally affected me, but I’m not going to make uninformed claims about Neil’s drumming or his influence on other drummers.
David Crosby did the same thing when he declared that Hendrix was the only person to ever change electric guitar.
Yes, I am offended by stupidity. This guy simply has no clue what he’s talking about. He knows really little about music history or the nuances in Eddie’s playing that make him better than your average shredder.
@@JohnDoe-gk7ok Why offensive? It's just his honest opinion. He has the right to see it that way (which btw is also my opinion). Nothing to be offended about it. There's no reason to get offended by anything except for insulting your mother. People are so touchy nowadays. If you get easily offended you shouldn't be watching interviews where people get asked about their opinion.
I remember when Steve said he had forsaken the idea of family for his music, and I always felt that the fact that he was "okay" with it wasnt truly honest. And now all of a sudden he has a wife and kids and Im so happy for him :D
He said some people look at him with pity because he doesn’t have children. Sounds like you’re one of those people.
Guitar shredding and video games are specifics but they're not the problems. If we look at the bigger picture, I think what we're really talking about here are abusiveness (in case of guitar shredding) and addiction (for video games.) Both of these two traits are bad, in whatever practice you apply them to; shredding and games unfortunately are used as talking points here.
There are shredding guitar solos by Guthrie Govan in albums that Steven produced, and he approved it, because it was done sensibly. He talked about losing oneself in imaginary world, but aren't music, books and movies, all are his favorite hobbies, also imaginary? He was quick to voice his opinions and like most of us, was prejudice. I am confident that Steven himself would agree that being abusive and addicted to anything is not good, and fairly convinced if we refrain from playing fast all the time, or got hooked in games 8 hours straight, things will be just fine.
Isn't the true message of this album is just that: technology and modern life is not a bad thing if we do not abuse it and get addicted to it?
This is why I don't like most people. That a guy like SW can make a comment on HIS PREFERENCE AND IDEAS when it comes to Van Halen and have a bunch of people with pitchforks going for his throat.
How was THAT not a valid opinion? You may not agree, but if we aren't allowed to have such opinions..........well, we are not gonna be very creative. I wonder if Van Halen never made a comment concerning a genre or artist in the same vein...........
God I hate most people....
Martin, THANK YOU for this interview. Intelligent. I'm dying here.. I graduated (philosophy) and I get my master degree (philosophy) last year... and this interview it's amazing.. And I watched the docs about Unabomber, so I got it instantly. Hugs from Brazil!
Thanks Guilherme Garcia!
Eddie was so much more than a "Shredder"
He was, and from what I hear and see, Wilson acknowledges that. He refers to Eddie's heritage as (unwillingly) having become 'the father of all shredders'.
Eddie Van Halen one of the greatest guitarist of all time, just ask his worldwide fans, just a thought I was compelled to state.
Which is what Steven said
Eddie was FAR from the first fast player. Les Paul, Django, Wes Montgomery, Jimmy Bryant, John McLaughlin, Al DiMeola, Jimmy Bryant, Paco DeLucia, Allan Holdsworth, Steve Morse, etc. Were all playing fast stuff well before Van Halen 1. Eddie just made it mainstream.
@@EthnHayabusa EVH was the first purely rock shredder. Jazz and fusion players are rarely referred to as 'shredders'. Speed is a given in those genres
I love listening to Steven Wilson talking, but he must be a very very difficult person to live with 😂😂😂
His wife and kids disagree
Whenever I listen to him in a good interview, I think I'd be happy to have him as a next door neighbor, or as someone I knew at work. *I'm* probably a difficult person to live with, so I'm not one who should be rating how hard other people are to live with!
If You live in Venezuela like me , there is no space to worry about bying, the one and only thing day by day is how yo get food, that is all.. Everything beyond that is so out of the question , You just don't bother no more, I don't know If this is good or Bad, but thats how it is.
The one small issue I had with "Fear of a Blank Planet" is that different parts of this planet are going through very different experiences.
There are still great guitar based bands, I feel that classic rock is tired but there are still great bands that utilise the guitar beautifully.
Bands like?
@@ghulammurtaza158 There are *literally hundreds* of 'em. Same as there are great artists in *every* genre. From all over the world. If you love it n yearn for it n have a true passion for it- search for it...you'll find it.
HUM's newest.. "inlet" is all about the soaring guitars. and for me and many others should not burn out anytime soon. Gives a trance/spacey feel. Space is the future!! lol
Agreed. And theres plenty of good hip hop too! People who say "this genre is trash, this genre is dead, this decade sucks" dont look nearly hard enough for music lol.
@@K4neki_CNTP nice selection!
When I look back in my life one thing I regret its spending so much time playing videogames and being so much behind a computer in my teenage years... and I'm afraid that I will regret in the future looking back to these days that I still am so much behind a computer. There's always an excuse to why, but afterwards what's left is the realization of having wasted so much time.
I have a love/hate relationship with technology and have to admit that, although I use my phone and internet a lot, I would prefer a society without these things.
Don't beat yourself up about it too much. If you enjoyed your time, then it wasn't wasted.
I tend to agree. However, I can't deny that I hold some very dear and amazing memories made inside virtual worlds. There is the flip side of the coin that you could argue reading fiction or listening to music are complete wastes of time when you could be out living life instead (which I don't ascribe to, if that wasn't clear).
@@tozerscarpet What a fantastic reply! I really appreciate that view, especially that you would articulate and share it for the sake of discussion in a comment section where so few people actually want to discuss things.
By and large, I'd say that I don't disagree with what you said at all. I definitely think that the most important things in life are the mark we leave on this world -- And not the kind of mark we want to leave because we want to be remembered, but the mark we leave that makes this world a better place for the others we live amongst and for all those who will come after us.
When I had said that time spent playing video games isn't a waste if it was enjoyed, I was saying it from the perspective of someone who has met some of their closest friends through playing video games. When I was in high school around 10 years ago, I struggled a lot in my social situation as many students do. I started having really negative perspectives and feelings towards the world, and by all accounts, I think I might've turned out to be a really awful person if I had stayed on that trajectory. One of my biggest saving graces apart from my very small circle of people I trusted in 'real life', was that I had started becoming close with some friends who I had met online playing video games. Our relationships formed over years, and at first, you might've said that they were mostly meaningless acquaintances with other people who were depressed and had a lot of time to throw away at a video game. But we (in that circle of friends) eventually started really sharing our lives with one another and relying on each other as a support network for our very real issues in life. That group of friends is a bit fractured now, but we still keep in touch, and even invite one another to really big events in life like marriages.
So I maybe should've clarified -- I think that someone can spend quite a lot of time playing video games and still have a positive relationship with it. Especially since video games these days have a tendency to lead one into different experiences that ultimately end in personal growth for the individual. I must say though, even though we might disagree slightly, I really wish more people thought like you. Especially among people who spend time on social sites like this where we can share our perspectives. Your view on this reminds me of one of my favorite quotes by Mason Albert: "What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world, remains and is immortal."
Interesting view from Steven on our struggle with technology and the (possible ?) bleak future of it all, especially for our children. We are living in a weird chaotic 'interbellum'. Will we lose connection with everything that made us human so far: curiosity, creativity etc. Thanks for this "philosophical" interview ! Oh yes.... looking forward to hear the new album as well 😄
Eddie's legacy was a generation of copycat shredders because people totally missed his point. He was a far better rhythm guitarrist and overall musician than his fast playing in solos. His weird solos and fast playing were more like "hey, look what I can do with this instrument, innit cool? Ok now back to my arsenal of KILLER rhythm compositions that absolutely NO ONE can create with so much versatility and finesse as I can". Of course other folks could never touch what Van Halen was all about (the actual songs), so they just tried to copy the weird fast soloing. Eddie has stated several times that he went "Oh Jesus. what have I done" , when seeing dozens and dozens of copycat guitarrists just playing fast for showing off. Eddie didn't like it as well, he knew people missed the point
I totally agree. His rhythm was unmatched. Steven may be slightly too young to realize this. Although, he does offer some respect.
He did offer some respect but made evh legacy sound more negative than positive which is just total ignorance.
I'll have you know my son has travelled the length and breadth of Hyrule. Destroyed Ganon and gave peace to the people who dwell there.
Boris would have him locked up 😂
EVH SW gave him credit for his work and variety. SW doesn't like that style, he is allowed his opinion. No problem.
I really enjoyed this.
It's nice when he talks about animal rights\veganism. Here in the UK I am finding a wonderful community about this.
But i definetly not agree about videogames.
I played them during my childhood \ teenager years and I am still curious about the outside world.
But, as he said, when you are costantly under the attack of hate\fake news, videogames\books\movies\music can really save your mind.
Videogames are just another form of art and expression.
I can agree with you in the point that videogames can be works of art. But in my opinion most video games today are simply made to get people addicted to, what is a shame, but since it is not as unhealthy as for example drugs, it is widely accepted and has a better reputation than illegal drugs or even legal ones. I think some video games could even be called drugs.
@@leonw.985 It depends about what games are you talking about.
In my case, during the last summer, stuck in a room in London, playing the Witcher 3 really helped me to being distracted from the outside.
I think everything, with the right moderation, it's okay.
But I think that today, most of the games\apps are designed to take our attention everytime. And that's what it's driving me crazy.
Did not know who this C leaguer was until he mistakenly commented on Ed van Halen in a negative way.......Ed was not a shredder, if other guitarists thought their way to make a niche was to be faster, that's influence I suppose.
He's been nominated for 5 Grammy awards, more than VH. C Leaguer is a joke, but his comments were pretty soul crushing
@Noartist Yeah, I'd agree usually about the Grammys but not in this case since they were nominated for best surround sound album. It's a non televised category and requires an attention to detail that most others don't. I've played guitar for 20 years, I agree with what you've said for the most part
@̧ Yeah except you're wrong. Also, who uses "pffft" on the internet to get their point across outside of a 13 year old? Next.
King Ghost is definitely one of the two best tracks of Steven’s solo career; up there with Happy Returns
I love Steven's music really, I absolutely adore his works... But I think he is kind of close minded or how to put it... Like for example his comments about shredding... Of course just mindlessly playing as fast as u can without musical direction is not really music, but you can not deny that 'shredding' or playing really fast can have musical applications when expressing certain emotions like anger for example and such... Also his comments about computer games ;D... Like there are many kinds of computer games... Some have competitive character, like real life sports and are fun the same way the football or chess is.... Is chess also just a waste of time? Some games are about expressing emotions and telling a story and are deserving piece of art status just the same way as music, film or great book does. In fact a great story-telling game is a COMBINATION of all the traditional arts put together... it requires great writing, great soundtrack, great application of graphical arts... So by his logic listening to music or reading a book is waste of time. Of course, as with absolutely everything, the phrase "too much of a good thing" applies to computer games as well and if you play too much it can be bad for you... But that also applies to all the other arts as well so yeah, I find Steven's logic here very close minded, borderline ignorant.
because STEVEN is like tons of guitar students i taught that would call EVH, VAI, YNGWIE, SATCH and HOLDSWORTH "overrated" and have no soul. He is jealous he doesnt have the chops like that, and cant play fast. Simple as that.
@@harveydents If he was actually jealous, he would have sat down in the last 30 years and learned how to do it. He is exactly the guitarist he used to look up to
Well said. I do think Steven has a specific idea in his mind about what 'videogames' are when he's reacting negatively to them. Likely having children has shone a light on the issue. All art is valid and time you enjoyed spending is not wasted. Everything in balance, though.
@@harveydents When you’re one of the biggest prog artists in the world, you don’t need to be jealous of anyone. I seriously doubt that’s why Steven loathes shredding- he probably just got fed up with the mindless noodling that so many of us have heard.
His speaking voice reminds me of Tony Robinson from Blackadder! 😂
Just listened to the box set. Absolutely amazing album. The extra tracks are as usual as good as any of the album itself. For me his best album. Epic.
Great interview -- thank you !
Neither have done squat compared to EVH
Ignorance is bliss on your part, Mr. nobody.
@@ajamandadam8299 If ignorance is bliss, you and Steve Wilson must be orgasmic!
STEVEN is like the guitar students i use to have that would say EVH, VAI, SATCH, RHOADS, YNGWIE and HOLDSWORTH have no "soul" in their playing.. TRANSLATION: "i cant play very fast, i suck at it, THEREFORE i will put down other EXTREMELY talented players who can" Simple as that.
I have to say this interviewer is very very good
I'm curious about Steven's thoughts about Frank Zappa, particularly his '73-'75 band which I have been exploring further through "The Roxy Movie" and "You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore vol.2" album. The music and the band are outstanding, however; I've never been a particular fan of Frank's guitar solos, to me they're just notes without feeling...they lack soul and direction. His playing is never note perfect which is strange for someone who demanded nothing but the best performances from his bands.
He would say "Pure rubbish, mate.... I need a highways worth of intro... Ok?.... I like to have a Crumpet and tune up while the keyboard player stands there like... "Come on dude. It's been like twenty minutes already"
Zappa is God... For real. You'll get it at some point. Rhythms, Textures, and chaos, bruh🤔
@@Jlhendry1 I don't get your point, and Zappa is not God...what he was...a genius at creating music through the writing process and finding musicians that could replicate his music both live and in the studio. My issue with Frank is his clumsy guitar solos, and through reading some of his interviews, he was rarely pleased with them himself.
His comments about how he never understood "shredder" music is interesting. Many of his solos involve fast (yet accurate) playing, even what he did in the solo of the In Floral Green cover, so it's as though someone who excels at fast running says "yeah I never understood people who run sprints for sports".
His idea that the speed of a phrase relates to quality of sound baffles me. Slow is not automatically better. Some people feel music differently, and it comes out more notes per second. Different phrases for different moods. If you want long whole notes like David Gilmour, then listen to Pink Floyd. Stop insisting that we should all play like him.
Wilson is great, but man his interviews are a bummer. Pretentious doesn’t begin to cover it.
@@EthnHayabusa Well said, Ive never understood why if something is technically proficient (fast) or musically complex it automatically equates to a lack of emotion. For me, the passion lies in the intensity of fast playing, I enjoy both styles. I love guys like BB King, Dave Gilmour, Yngwie, Steve Vai equally but for different reasons, it all depends on what mood I’m in. As a musician, I’ve also found that exploring all different genres without pre conceived prejudices has made me more well rounded and a more mature sounding player. A lot of the hate (in my experience anyway) for technically demanding music comes from these Indie guys (nothing wrong with indie!) that for some reason love to brag about not practicing lol.
Eddie Van Halen played with the harmonizing heart and rhythm of a pianist. He was an innovator in everything from effects to taste. Girl Gone Bad would have said ..
My favourite VH song, it's almost progressive.
If he thinks EVH plays music like it's an olympic sport (which he couldn't be more off about), how does he feel about jazz guitarists, classical pianists, flamenco and classical guitarists? Ridiculous.
@@livingroomguitarist7 I used to love Malmsteen, still do, but that kind of showing of is getting boring after awhile. I think that's the point Steven is talking about.
@@jacobm.vantuijl yes, I agree but that isn't Eddie.
@@livingroomguitarist7 He has embarrassed himself here. One long whinge, very bitter.
So he offers hope for another PTree album - except now that we're expecting one, we can be sure it won't happen. And in the same vein, we can expect his next album will be full of guitar-shredding solos. 😀
Porcupine Tree is like plan B if his solo albums sale started to decline.
you're wording this like PT didn't drop two reissue box sets, 10 live albums, and a previously-unreleased acoustic EP last year
@@mancakessyrup5384 - I expect most PTree fans are hoping for new studio albums, not just remixing/re-releasing of the songs from 10-20 years ago. And both Richard and Gavin have mentioned that they wished Porcupine Tree had ended on a stronger album than "The Incident" was.
The really dumb thing about my comment was that it wasn't meant for this interview! I read multiple interviews from Steven at the same day, wrote a comment on this video, but I was reacting to something he had said in a different interview! One of my friends read my comment and said "Hope for another PTree album? WTH are you talking about?"
our wishes have just been granted.
People is overreacting over the EVH comment, not a surprise, it's the internet..
as someone who is part of the younger generation i still find as many movies, music, and books like steven is talking about. I get his point too but arent video games really just an addition to that? Even though I barely play games anymore lol
Never heard Steven Wilson until his word “ abysmal “ referring to Greta Van Fleet.
That's cool. You hate "shredders" and I hate rambling post-prog rock.
I love how many people here in the comments coming to EVH defense are saying "I've never heard of this guy" LOL
That only shows you people are stuck in the past listening to the same bands over and over and never went beyond. Steven Wilson isn't even that underground for you to claim to never heard of him. You are the people who claim Greta Van Fleet is bringing rock again! XDD
That is great, that a person has the depth and creativity to search for something new. The fact that he is searching for this something new usually comes from older music. Inspiration is a wonderful thing. I love all types of music, just depends on my mood or the atmosphere in which I may be residing in. There is all types of music no matter what era its from. It all has a place. Humans are evolving and changing. Lets not forget our past tho. Good, bad, or indifferent. I just glad music is here for me to explore.
If you can't say anything nice or at least positive, then really just don't say anything at all. why would you want to keep spreading negativity. There is enough of that already. Don't be a twat. Evolve from the shit..
I think an artist, more than anyone, should appreciate a medium for what it can be. Of course if Steven never played a videogame he is not gonna "get it". I'm willing to bet, if it wasn't a philosophical issue, he would find plenty to enjoy and would find things that move him........just as much as music or movies.
Videogames are an artform just like music and movies are, for me. It's clay that the human being uses to create and communicate something. So ...it's about how creative and soulful the human is....that will dedicate the quality of the art obviously.
Rock music is dead, long live rock music.
Le roi est mort, vive le roi
The fact that his comments on eddie as ,"a shredder", and "I don't get these guys that play as fast as they can". proves this guy didn't know Eddie at all. Idiotic remark and completely uncalled for!
What's funny is i have never heard of this guy ever before in my life...lol, and I love all types of music, ,,,oh well i guess??
Again, bad comment, low class, low rent....
The fact that you never heard of this guy, just shows how limited your exposure to the world of music is.
He was just giving his opinion on EVH and that style of music, nothing to do with class or "rent".
I get where you're coming from in regards to Eddie, who died just this past October. It sucks, but his legacy as a finger tapper extraordinaire and showman will live on.
Steven is a founding member of Porcupine Tree, a British prog rock band who killed it in live performances.
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you didn't understand what wilson meant then.
@@ajamandadam8299 you know nothing of me or what my musical interests are, so pipe it. My comment is plain and simple, in the world of musicians when there's a man with the impact and massive talent of Edward, for this clown to comment the way he did on him was disrespectful and if you don't see it that way then I don't care to explain it to you.
@@King5150Ed I'm a EVH fan also, but I don't think there was any disrespect on Steven Wilson's part, that's all.
Wilson hates Shredders.. . Did he forget the great shredder guitar solo in Regret #9?.
That was not really shred tho :P
Having a couple of shredding solos dont make his statement less genuine, he didnt even talk about EVH itself, its the generalization of his guitar contributions or mainstream painting hum as a pioneer of shredder guitarrist, guthrie govan sure can play fast a lot of notes, but his use in music dont revolve arround how fast he can play
The problem I've had with abrupt philosophical 180s is that they quickly lose steam. I've eschewed acoustic instruments before, but always felt homesick for them after dalliances with electronic music. I've delved into microtonal music and made me feel ill after a while.
Wilson always does this, it's nothing new. Before the last album, it was that he wanted to delve into pop music. Now, it's electronic music. Next album, I wouldn't be surprised if he did rap. His solo work meanders everywhere.
we are still organic beings, connecting with something like an acoustic guitar... its organic... we arent robots, yet
I think what he says rock or "guitar music" can be applied to all kinds of music. To me we live in an era of subgenres and a sort of rebirth of progressivism, where borders between genres are continously being challenge. It has been a long time since, to my knowledge, that an entirely new genre has been created.
So bad you have no subtitles for ukrainian or russian. So great man, musicant and human at all. Sory for my bad english
You just saw „old men whining about younger people playing videogames“. 🙄
I’m 45 and when I look at the younger generations I‘m astonished about how much they care about the world, how they fight for a better future, how they can experience much more music and movies and art in their whole life because they grew up with the internet. And today you can make a living out of playing games ... in the 80s it really was a time killer.
Btw: I love computer games. I‘m a Nintendo fanboy since 86.
Haha. Ya know Steven is a great example. Without knowing him I respect him a great deal. One of the few artists I say "i wish I had that guys life/output". You even look at how deep and varied and non-mainstream and creative his music is and start thinking "clearly this is an open minded person".
But then the guy goes and makes such a comment xD
It just goes to show open-mindedness is a lifetime PURSUIT and something you must keep practice. I mean, I'm 34....and in the last 4 years.....(partially because I haven't been following my passions as much perhaps) I've felt a bit like I'm becoming a bit conservative.........I no longer experiment with different music too much..........or stick to tried and true things I like in terms of music, movies etc...................and I look at a lot of new stuff out there and for the FIRST time....I start feeling like I "DO" think a bit.......that what existed in "my time" was better than what we have today (can't stand mumble rap and most music today that is popular for instances).
But at least I know I want to keep being open minded.........because the truth of the matter is............we ARE conditioned by our experiences..........sow e are never gonna be truly objective..........unless we KEEP exploring.....keep questioning.......keep embrancing.
Youthfulness has fuck all to do with age. But it is true. that the culture we live in kinda makes it a bit harder to remain youthful and exploratory as you grow older.
Is there are really a differences between listen to an album, reading a book or playing a computer game?
Yes?
@@iavh7868 No?
@@stevemuzak8526 the brain and body react differently to all those things
Ultimately no. All sensory experiences that convey a story....that take in on an audiovisual experience.
Interesting Interview. I like stevens thoughts about music but also i don´t think that guitar music is over. This was a terrible thing and if i imagine that all these awful chart music of today would be the future...oh no:-( I´m a big fan of eddie although i agree with his statement that shredding seems to be an olympic sport. Yes, ed was much more than a shredder but who else brought more impact in this way of playing like eddie did?
By the way: I´m disappointed with TFB. No, i don´t wanted "Hand.Cannot.Erase V.2.0", but this album is very boring to my ears. "Song Of I" was a statement on "To The Bone", and i thought that this sound was the basic of this record. Now it´s a strange collection of songs that seems like a statement: "I don´t wanna make prog things anymore and this is the future of music"...
Steven was almost the only musician that makes me believe in good music of the present. THE FUTURE BITES is the opposite and except a few songs like "King Ghost", 12 Things I Forgot", "Personal Shopper" and "Follower" it´s a sad development of his music...
I can only say that growing up in canada and north America we had a different relationship with van Halen more rocker cool guy it you were into hard rock as opposed to disco we wore black leather and rock boots civil war battle boots van Halen was the shit for years it's obvious from listeningvtobyour music that you've been influenced by British artists opposed to American artists as I can hear the pink floyd influences seeing I've never heard of you till this interview I have taken some time to listen to your music and its quite good you and eddy have a totally different playing style I like what I heard you're both good you can definitely hear the pink Floyd influence in your music
I had never heard of you. That's not meant to be an insult. You stated that you weren't impacted by the death of EVH, because you weren't a fan. I find that difficult to process. I never knew him directly, but I definitely knew things about him through his music, tv, and the media. However, I'm impacted because he was a fellow-human being, someone's son, husband, father, and etc. His life had value, and impacted the world. I can't understand how anyone can be so callous!!! Such heartless comments can only cause his loved ones more heartache. Please think before you speak. Also, it's best to stay silent if what you say doesn't help his loved ones heal. We need more love for others in the world!!! Much would change for the better for all of us.
@@K4neki_CNTP Do you know Steven Wilson? If not, you aren't sure about his thinking. Yes, it's possible that I misunderstood his intent, but at least I based it on what I heard from his mouth. You are pretending to know what he's thinking, although you have probably never had a conversation with him. And yes, when I hear of ANY death, I do care. It doesn't mean that I attempt to carry the weight of the grief associated with each death. Only the God of Heaven can handle that weight. I am not upset with you, nor do I wish to argue. We are each entitled to our opinions and thoughts. I respect your right to yours. Have a great day!!!
D. Williamson ; must say so “well said” regarding the hurtful comment made by Steven Wilson, funny I thought he was a distant brother of the Wilson brothers , maybe Brian Wilson’s distant brother, didn’t know who this guy was, but kudos to you for your well thought out comment regarding the hurtful comment regarding Eddie van Halen -why does this guy think everything he says is Gods word, never heard such a self-centered person , thinks highly of himself , Eddie Van Halen was an incredibly gifted musician in every way , just ask his millions of fans world wide.
Absolutely stunning album OK it's electronic but we have electronic banda like tangerine dream who use guitar and appeal to progressive rock fans fantastic artist
I find it hilarious that in 2021 people say that Eddie Van Halen was never a shredder. He was the biggest shredder in the 80s. Stop
Of course he was a shredder, but he also played with melody and great timing. He always had a feel for the appropriate place to apply tapping, legato, harmonics, etc. He was also a genius at writing riffs. He didn’t just mindlessly run up and down scales with no sense of the music playing in the background. He knew how to serve the song. In the end, he developed a distinct voice on the guitar; anytime you hear an EVH solo, you know it is him. And I would argue that he wasn’t the biggest shredder of the 80s... 70s? Yes. But the 80s saw the emergence of guys like Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen, etc.
But this guy I never heard of just wants to pigeonhole Eddie as a “shredder” without considering the broader musical avenues he was able to take by virtue of his technique. The same guy who created I’m the One, Mean Street, and Unchained was able to create melodic stuff like Secrets and Dance the Night Away.
Are you a bot? Anyways the point is labeling someone with a shallow word like "shredder" and completely disregarding all of the amazing songs they wrote not to mention influencing an entire generation not only musically but pop culture. Almost all of which will leave Steven Wilson in the dust over time. And this is coming from a fan of Porcupine Tree. Steven has become more and more pretentious the further he has gotten into his solo career, and simultaneously more and more shallow in terms of output. The material isn't getting any better. The best things he did sounded like a ripoff of Rush on his solo material. He also admitted early in his career to writing music for financial gain where he was literally pandering to the lowest common denominator. This is only my opinion but his comments were fairly dismissive here and therefore disrespectful. It's okay to say he didn't like it but to label Eddie as simply a shredder was very dismissive.
It's not that he was a shredder, he was an amazing musician that could ALSO shred, and on a level that no one had done before. People have written good songs before, but nobody could shred like Ed on the late 70s and early 80s. So that's what a lot of people talked about, when in fact he was UNTOUCHED in 2 main areas of rock music : killer rhythm riffs and ... tone, tone, tone, a thousand times TONE
You know how to appreciate music
Brilliant guy but Steven Wilson takes himself WAY too seriously.
I've never heard of you. Only reason why i noticed your statement is because you mention The Great Iconic Eddie Van Halen!!! How dare you!!!
Amen brother!!!
Well... I would encourage you to listen to his music dude, SW is REALLY good. The musicians he has played with embarrass VH. That said EVH on his own was a singular talent in his ability. A buddy's dad once told me he met Eddie as a bartender at the Omni one night in the early 90s and said EVH was the nicest human being he had ever met
@@thegeofhthdpgrsea Would embarrass van halen......Please name a few. There is not really a whole lot of creativity going on out there right now.
@@MarksWorldofEngravingandMore The drummer he played with in Porcupine Tree is incredible
Steven, it's time go back and make a colab album with Arjen.
internet in general is the biggest source of accesible information ever like, also videogames are a huge source of art and even more online games about social interactions
great explanation for where you are going i will follow you as i did bowie, move on do what you do
This goes to show you, opinions are like assholes: best shared in an environment of mutual respect
I seriously had to google Steven Wilson to find out who this person is.
And you’re all the more better for it.
One day ago... Huh. You must be almost through the first porcupine tree song being that it's got a 20 hour intro.
@@Jlhendry1 I could barely listen to 15 seconds of just one song I found
Cringe
So what? I too, have to sometimes google who this, or that person is.
...Steven how's that EVH comment working out for you ....
He spoke honestly and with respect. There is no story here.
@ Mark S C What a weird comment. Do you mean to imply that his career is now ruined, or what?
Nope, I mean people are making more of his statement on EVH's death than they should. Kinda thought that was obvious.
@@uncookedbaconbits I was answering to Mark S C but for some reason the reply system wasn't working right. Kinda thought that was obvious too.
He's jealous he can't play any Van Halen and on top of that Eddie plays more classical and slow stuff than anyone he was raised on Beethoven etc piano drums he was probably one of the most versatile musicians ever one of the most creative by far I don't know who this guy is and with all due respect he is a musician okay to what ever low level he chooses his music but the audacity of some people amazes me. When in all actuality he's in all of him he just doesn't want to admit it. Have a blessed day 🤘
Who knew Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys was so bitter?! This guy thinks Ed was just one of those typical copycat shredders? Really?! That's all he took from the legacy of EVH?! Really?! The most in-the-pocket player? REALLY?! Ed was just being Ed. Wasn't shredding for shredding sake...wasn't trying to impress guitarists with his shreddiness. He was just being himself. A musical genius, who could saying the most profound things on the fretboard.
Give this guy some money to buy a clue!
Never heard of him b4! Although, I totally agree with his view on Greta Van Fleet, or is it Fred VanVleet? Still, I will give his music a chance. I will listen to some since I'm just learning about him in this interview.
Unbelievable!!!
Couldn’t agree with you more. His narcissistic ways are showing 👿👿
Steven being bored of guitars. This shattered me. Although Steven's career is very long, I still wish I hadn't watched this.
Wait I remember he said that he doesn't want children. Now he has 2? 7&9? Did i hear correctly?
adopted, they are his wife's daughters.
@@zoroasthra That clears a lot
Great interview, I wish he'd get the guitar back.
The guitar belongs to the past....😨😨😨😨😨😭😭😭😭?!
Except for on the next Porcupine Tree album
Looking forward to this one!
Low class dig on Eddie Van Halen. You don’t have to like his music, but show some grace. His death is still fresh for a lot of us fans.
Wilson acknowledges Eddie van Halen being a great player. He refers to Eddie's heritage as (unwillingly) having become 'the father of all shredders'.
Isn't this the guy writes mostly synth pad intros?... Never got to one of his grooves... When I get 2 minutes into a 10 minute intro I lose interest and put on Fair Warning instead.
I'm kidding. His intros arent long. They are short with really hooky parts... Or are they?
I don't share his belief the '80s were better. Every generation tends to think their teen years were the best, so it's not just our generation. His parents felt the world was better in their day, and their parents, etc. I'm 51 and I loved the '80s, but I find today is one of the best times to be witnessing. Also, shredding is a valid method of playing guitar. To say otherwise is disingenuous and snobbish.
I am also 51. I think music in the early 80s was extremely innovative. So were the early 90s. I love a lot of current music, but I also feel a lot of music is stagnating circa the late 80s.
Each to his or her own
I think SOME computer games are a waste. Some games are interactive stories, which to me is no different than reading a book or watching a movie.
Of course the fanboys with their popularity fest would come to this video
Eddie lead with his guitar but then also supported the other instruments and some how found a way to sing back up lyrics with his strings as well as his voice. ... ... Im pretty sure this guy has only heard radio Van Halen and thus would really have no clue what he was talking about. Cathedral for instance is very much NOT SHREDDING. Little Guitars is shred free.
He specifically said that he knows there was more to EVH than shredding, but that shredding was his legacy. I thought he was pretty respectful about it, really.
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Music goes in cycles. I am surprised Steven Wilson doesn't see or acknowledge that. Soon electronic music will be out of favour, as it came to be in the 90s after the 80s new wave, and guitar music will be back in vogue again.
True, like markets, fashion, everything is in cycles
As a guitarist myself , This interview is depressing . I love Steven though , and he in fact may be correct about the guitar in our current state of music .
I can understand it a little bit too, but honestly I think there's been too many unique and innovative guitar-based artists coming out of the 2010's for me to be too pessimistic :)
Yeah, 70s vintage synths is the sound of NOW! (btw. I love analogue synths and own several of them, the reasoning is just funny to me)
I don't agree with Steven - Jazz wasn't wiped out, it's still a relevant and vibrant genre. It's the same with guitar - it will always live on and be a source of excitement and inspiration; great guitar riffs and solos will always be enjoyed and appreciated. I think what he's saying is that he's done with it, and that's his choice.
@@Lineageholder I think what he means is that first rock replaced jazz, and now electronic replaces rock, as the "mainstream" music genre and that, in a way, is true. The reason is that after some time, these genres exhaust their capabilities to impress mainstream audiences. The excitement of them being new and fresh simply wears out. It doesn't mean they cease to exist, or cease to be "good" - they do exist, and will stil excite certain amount of people, but won't have the same impact or so called "mass" appeal as they used to. That's what happened to jazz 50 years ago and that's what happens to rock now. And i'm sure by 2050 same thing will happen to electronic music. It's just the natural way the things evolve.
@@maciejkowalski2759 Mass appeal is greatly overrated!
So guitar is dead more or less? How about the THOUSANDS of very young people posting their guitar playing videos. They said VINYL was dead too.
Interviewer started by asking the stupidest questions. It's like he doesn't know who and what he's speaking to
I suppose this story came up in my news feed due to some EVH algorithm (big fan). No disrespect but, reading down through the comments and, still don’t know who Steve Wilson is. I will have to Google him and see why he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath. Ok .. just googled him. Porcupine Tree? Still... drawing a blank. Sorry. Have I been missing out?
Yes ? He has been involved with Porcupine Tree, Blackfield, No-Man, Bass Communion, Opeth and many others. Within the modern prog scene Steven Wilson is one of the biggest artist. It's not for everyone but he has made a lot of great music.
Don't forget his work to remaster several King Crimson albums
Well that's up to you to decide. Unless you think you know all music in the world that might be worth your time...it's not surprise you dont' know him.
Shitting on a legend, how professional. Wilson has never done anything important. Riding on the back of someone else's success can't be seen as a personal success. Legendary albums sound good enough and they don't need remixing. On the other hand EVH is a legend. I realize it may hurt some not important musicians who don't understand real talent or are simply jealous. Can't play like Eddie so he's not into it. How lame.
@@gunnersdream44 Eddie is big and he's so small, but talking shit about EVH won't make him big. Anyway I don't know what his empty head is trying to achieve. Publicity maybe. Although if you're a musician it's better to play music than talk shit about other musicians.
@@gunnersdream44 shredding and playing fast are different things, and EVH shreds 79% of time. Govan shreds 1% of time on his albums
@@gunnersdream44 he didn't say anything bad about him, you are just a brainless fanboy of EVH and yoy didn't even listen carefully to what he have said
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You son of a bitch, you owe a lot to Van Halen...you say you don't like virtuoso guitarists and you've played with them!!
Just listened for the first time.
Absolutely fantastic, "Man of the People" is worth the price of admission alone.
To those bitching that this isn't guitar based rock music you should check out Nickelback and Five Finger Death Punch, there's guitar and they make the same record over and over again, you'll love em.
Entitled twats.
Wow. I never heard of Steven Wilson until I watched this video. Now I understand why I never heard of him. He has zero concept of music. To consider Edward Van Halen "a shredder" guitar player is an absolute insult. Edward is renowned for his melodic and rhythm playing as well as his riff structure. This dope needs to return to band camp with his flute.
Zero concept of music ? Your ignorance is showing. Steven Wilson is great and talented artist and songwriter. You being pissed at him because he is not a fan of Van Halen is pretty childish. Within the prog community, Steven Wilson is probably one of the biggest name.
Zero concept of music for not liking a famous guitarist? Hahaha
Hahahaahaha
Steven Who??? I ended up here wanting to hear Van Halen. Some people have charisma, revolutionize their instrument and the music industry (at the same time) , marry TV stars, create a legendary band and music and love their son to the end. Others are “relevant” by Critical acclaimed Irrelevance . Eddie, . So much more than a jealous “shredder hater” could ever Hope to Be or Understand. =VH=
So I've heard of EVH all my life and I've never even heard of this guy or his band..so I'm thinking if this dude had one percent of EDDIE'S talant I would of heard of him..I think he could of given EVH a little more respect..just because your not into the shredding metal part of music,dont mean you have to say his death didn't effect you. Did it not effect you as a person?? Maybe you can't come close to playing as good as EVH or your band isn't nearly as popular as van halen..maybe thats this dudes problem.
My uncle died. Do you give a shit? Probably not. Why should you? Why should Wilson give a shit about Eddie's death when he didn't know him personally? He was asked a question and he answered.
I disagree with his comments on Eddie. It's a pretty cocky statement honestly- he is sounding fairly condescending. He's labeling Eddie as something he was not from an ignorant point of view. This seems like something you would say if you believed you were pretty amazing. And I like Porcupine Tree quite a bit.
The comments about the guitar really shattered me ! I truly hope he is wrong.
Metal and prog rock continue to progress! So much talent out there. Bands like Leprous, Haken, and Periphery keep pushing the bar to new heights. I love Steven, but I doubt he’s been keeping up
@G Novak Hi there. Its great to have an open discussion - like to hear the opinion of others anytime! So here [ again just looking to discuss] are some more of my opinions. As many people have commented , there are numerous great guitar based albums being released. I find it strange the Beethoven was born in the 1700s yet there is still amazing piano and orchestra music being written - why can SW not find some interesting guitar music ? I remember years ago an interview with Steven when he observed how he had sacrificed family and a personal life for music . That has all has changed with him now married with kids and so perhaps have his priorities . So maybe he re-evalued his priorities and kinda took the easy route and layered track after track electronically with the aid of programming software and used that as the base for the album? - Certainly he is entitled to do whatever he likes - I still rate him as one of the best - but perhaps he uses the Shakespearian quote a little too easily , hence does he " protest to much methinks? "
@G Novak I share your thoughts on Animals and Leaders haha. Yeah, I agree he is not interested in trying to explore the new prog metal. But in this interview, he essentially asserted that guitar based music is done, which I disagree with. Anyways, doesn't really matter. I do think Steven's new album is very creative, although I don't see myself listening to it many times. Not as enjoyable as some of his other solo records. Cheers
He’s only admitting that HE has run out of ideas for guitar. Failure/unable to innovate like EVH
@@davemenard5089 Perhaps he should have called the album Frankie Doesn't Go to Hollywood...
what about Guthrie Govan shredding on that Regret song of yours? and your keyboard player ripping on a synthesizer before that? when it's you, it's OK? and when it's EVH, it's not? hypocrite.
his comments on EVH were fair. He called his talent extraordinary. Fast playing is just not his thing.
Who the fuck is Steven Wilson?
Who the fuck is Eddie Van Halen?
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I had no idea who this guy was until I stumbled across an article in which he proclaims that Eddie Van Halen’s influence on the music industry was negative. Totally uninformed bullshit. He’s also incredibly vague with his criticism, as he lumps shredders under this single umbrella when many of them sounded so different; e.g., Malmsteen sounds nothing like Nuno. He’s also historically inaccurate; shredding has been around since at least the 1800s. Jazz greats like Tal Farlow, John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Johnny Griffin, Django were “shredding” long before EVH.
You hit the nail on the head, guy is clearly misinformed!
Sub par musician that's barely considered popular telling us that EVH could only shred? Glad I seen the article because he did a hell of a lot more than shred, the cathedral is a great example. EVH was a pioneer. Clearly no IQ left in Stevens head.
Congratulations you made elevator music.
Who is this guy? Nuff said. Bye Felicia. Downvote +5
Unfortunately for Steven Wilson - he will be remembered for his ugly statements about Edward Van Halen. It is always sad to hear and see a musician put down another musicians art and craft. Perhaps Steven Wilson is frustrated about his own artistic short comings and lack of vision.
Yeah...he will be remembered for having Guthrie fucking Govan playing on a few records...frustrating to say the least
He writes beautiful long intros.
@@Ricki_Snow Amen to that.
Steven, did you just say that your music is guitarbased ??? Well, not anymore then with the releaase of The future bites .............
Yeah... That's what he was saying.
Yes. Was guitarbased. He said exactly that.
No wonder after the comments he made about Eddie that his new album is called The Future Bites. Wilson and Eddie are two of my favorites, whether he listened to Van Halen or appreciates it or not he was certainly influenced by it. Also, Porcupine Tree is better than this sad sappy shit you put out on your own. Harmony Korrine aside dude, the best music you put out was with PPT by a mile, or a kilo depending on what side of the Atlantic
I doubt he will ever read this but for awhile I had hope in rock again when I discovered Porcupine Tree and then realized this week he didn't even believe in it anymore.... brutal
This guy has zero clue about Eddie Van Halen, because if he did, he would not have said this ridiculous comments. Evh was never a shredder. He had fast phrasing at times bit bo where what shredding encompasses. He had melody and a totally different approach than anyone else. His playing and music composition was far from shredding .
And this guy is who again? Hes a nobody with a stupid opinion.
I just read an article where this clown disrespects Evh i am a guitar player and a massive music fan and I never heard of this chump before . Anyone who picks up a guitar cant deny what eddie did to music especially from a musicians point of view
Hypocrite that word comes to mind!
I love SW's music, but boy does he talk a load of crap!