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DQ7 is just a product of it's time. Back then there was a big demand for these long ass JRPGS. We didn't want our games to end, since most games were short, and we used to have to wait months or even years to get the next big game we really wanted. The fact that DQ7 took about 100 hours to beat, was pretty unheard of back then, and it was welcomed.
I feel like vocation grinding and especially level caps are what make this game feel so grindy and slow. Both 7 and 6 need a rework to this system. Or at least remove level caps so we can level up without fear.
this game is very awkward to talk about because of its inconsistent pacing, certain parts are fantastic and imaginative and incredibly unique even within this amazing series. Then other parts are the biggest slogs youll find in your life. Also the remake may be the first game ever where adding on screen encounters makes the encounter rate worse because you have fast monsters in tight hallways.
The story with the soup robot really hit me hard when I first experienced it, what with being somewhat of an antisocial recluse myself. It still makes me tear up a bit thinking about it.
I really like the "episodic" format. It almost feels like a series. Dragon Quest is really good at making each town feel like a mini quest of it's own, with the pieces leading up to a greater whole, and I think if VII did one thing well (at least in concept), it was this. It could have used a bit more character and a bit less plodding length, but the framework for a really great story is definitely there.
I loved 7. I have been considering playing it again. it was easy for me to get through because of how it is all broken up into smaller bite size sections. It might be my favorite. Loved all the main characters.
The PS1 version is actually my favorite Dragon Quest! Despite all of it's flaws, I enjoy the pacing and the job grind. I love the intro dungeon which is all puzzles. Such a cool, unique, slow burn experience imo. Though yes, it takes WAY too long to reach Dharma and the job system, and the event before Dharma where you get tricked and sent to Penal Town is the worst part of any Dragon Quest game I ever played lol
Big time Dragon Quest fan here. Think 7 is one of the best. I agree the pacing stinks but feels so rewarding to finish. I'm a sucker for the job class system and building your own dream team. Hope you enjoy DQ3 remake and 10 offline if we ever get it
This game is the essence of childhood innocence that in my mind is so closely related to JRPG (playing the genre since age 10). I can't explain it in terms of gameplay - this game has a certain magic like no other, it took me about 120 hours to complete and I've loved every minute of it. It's not the darkest, not the most innovative, and not the fastest JRPG for sure, but if you love the genre, it gives you an overdose of JRPG, pure old JRPG just like when you were an adolescent, and goes "over 9000" with it - dungeons, riddles, story, music, art, battles, class system, it's a celebration of the "old and simple" JRPG. Nowadays it seems that a JRPG is considered good only if it changes the formula. I can respect that, but personally, I don't like the genre because I think it needs changing. I like non-gimmicky turn-based JRPGs that take hundreds of hours to play, hell, five hours just to get to the first battle! This game is in love with the genre, and as an old time fan, I'm in love with it.
I played this about 4 years ago and all I could tell you about the numerous villages you visit is that one has a volcano. I didn't even remember two of those party members, but I sure remember being mad at all the characters that suddenly leave.
It's also worth keeping in mind the context that the original came out. It came to the PSX during the absolute twilight of its lifespan. It literally came out the same year as Final Fantasy X (1 year before in Japan). People back then must have been really disappointed by it on a purely technical level. That combined with the game as a whole, it must have felt extremely dated.
I've been subscribed for quite a while but I never comment, but I saw your 2022 wrap up after catching up on some of your newer videos, and then I watched one of your older ones. I just want to say I'm loving the new thumbnails and the new types of titles. You called them more clickbait-y and while they're definitely not the same straightforward titles as before I love that they're not anything ridiculous. Also that you keep the game title in the title. I've seen some clickbait titles that don't even tell you the game and it kills me lmao. But also you've grown so much in making videos, and I really hope 2023 is the year you need it to be! Loved this look into DQ7, it solidified my plan to never play it, but I adore hearing about JRPGs I'll never play.
Oh, wow, yeah. I still can't believe I ever made it through the original PS1 version. I love Dragon Quest, truly. The original was my first RPG and 3, 4, 5, and 8 are some of my all-time favorites. 7, though? You really can have too much of a good thing.
The PSX one takes even longer! The game speed is slower and the opening tablet dungeon is an actual puzzle dungeon. To answer how we ps1 players played this originally: well, I didn't really have anything else to play back in 2001 (had already beaten my other games and money was tight) so it was easy to focus on this and work with others via the GameFAQs message boards.
@@newgameaaaa pretty similar to my experience. I bought it at launch. I wasn't really taking high school seriously at all so I'd just trudge through classes doing the bare minimum and then go home and stay up late playing. Back then, the advertised 100+ hours of gameplay was a relatively new, novel concept, and I was enthralled with it. Nowadays, I'd be intimidated to even start something like that.
My first play through was over 200 hrs when I was a kid. A lot of that was talking to townspeople people multiple times, hunting shards, and visiting old towns cause they have new stuff to say every so often. I’d visit all the fortune tellers cause they’d give you hints on where to go next. Only thing I never did was figure out how to open the two bonus dungeons. It’s my favorite Dragon Quest and I remember being really disappointed when I beat 8 in 45 hrs
For everyone: If you really want to play (or replay) Dragon Quest, just go for the best games in the franchise: DQ 4 and 5. I'm not saying that the are bad games in Dragon Quest, just remember that they are formulaic, but IV and V just excels in every aspect. Here, your DQ fan❤
This is what a lot of developers got wrong in this genre of games. RPGs have to be a perfect mix of story telling and game play. Too much plot slows the game down. Too much game detaches you from the plot. DQ7 is an example of the writers not knowing how to proper load the front end of a story, so you aren't dragging. And as you pointed out, they may have abused the game cycle formula a tad.
yeah...never forget you are making a game first and a story second(with the exception being the niche genre of visual novels.) The purpose of story in a game should be to motivate you to see what happens next so you have a reason to keep playing. I feel like a lot of game developers have forgotten this and now they sometimes make story too much of the focus. If you go back to early Squaresoft games there was a really great level of story to gameplay.
The only Dragon Quest I never finished. I attempted years ago on PSX and again on 3DS. I just couldn't do it. This game desperately needs a hard mode. It would be good if not for the fact that the battles have absolutely zero challenge.
I agree so hard with this lmao. I really wanted to like DQ7 but it was waaay too slow for me. And I like to think that I have a high tolerance for slow RPGs too. After spending 225 hours in DQ11 whenever I heard people say that 7 came with three hundred hours worth of content I got really excited, until I got far into it and found that it takes three hundred hours because it's just build to be a slow game in almost all aspects
Im very biased cause i played this game on the ps1 as a teenager in 2003-2004 when my family was broke and we didnt even have internet or phone for some time due to being broke (father losing job in a country with much sociopolitical turmoil). Lack of internet also meant i couldn't look anything up and had to be fully immersed. It was also the only game i was playing, borrowed indefinitely from a friend. That said, the slow pacing was a feature in these circumstances, i felt very immersed figuring things out and exploring the world my party kept rescuing and expanding. As i had no internet and was coming in blind, things like the class system appearing out of nowhere after hours playing came as a pleasant surprise (i was already a big fan of job systems after playing FF5 and FFT).... all that said, in the saturated fast paced infoexplosion condensed world we're in now, with everyone likely having extensive game backlogs (especially for people having real life adult jobs which i didn't have when i played DW7), i can imagine my perspective of this game would be quite different coming in fresh into it; but back in 2003, i freaking loved it and i still get quite nostalgic about it.
I really disagree with you. I don't think a game being long is inherently a flaw. It's entirely subjective, so I do respect your opinion! But I think the only two major pacing flaws in this game are getting to the first battle and then unlocking the class sytem. Other than that, I was never bored, even getting to those landmarks. Each little vignette is paced perfectly, with some of the most genuinely profound and heartfelt stories in the entire series. I personally thought it was very rewarding to go to an island, solve the issues, go back to the present and see what changed, and get bits of dialogue and visual storytelling to show the player how things turned out. I find it INCREDIBLY effective and satisfying from beginning to end, never once being tired of it. I personally think 8 has far worse pacing despite being slower because the story essentially boils down to, "the villain is here, no he's there, no wait, he's THERE" with so little urgency outside of introductory character arcs. I also don't think the plot ever really progresses outside of the beginning, while 7 slowly unravels individual and overarching mysteries as time goes on. It also having little vignettes that are, imo, one, weaker, and 2 less justified because the game just insists there's ever looming danger you need to address. I hardly feel these stories justify themselves outside maybe the Charmles quest. That's just my opinion, I know I'm in the minority. I also played the PS2 version which may or may not have been the wrong choice for me personally. TL;DR my hot take is I like VII more than VIII.
This is the game that made me invested into DQ, where other rpgs mostly have story focus into main character & world lore. This one instead did differently by focusing on each of individual town story. I felt even more satisfied when at the end, all of the towns connected together.
@@firzaprama7 That's awesome! I agree, the game focusing more than ever on the individual stroies almost made the game feel more like a grand adventure to me. Because the game was basically able to tell two stories per arc; the past and then the present. And I agree, the end, seeing them all together, incredibly satisfying. I would much rather replay VII in a heartbeat over VIII, but that's just me.
@@KingOfHart34 I've never played VIII before, but that past & present of individual stories in VII that you've mentioned is definitely caught me off guard with the storytelling style and got me hooked to the end (even though I had to do many tedious grind). This is the only one DQ story to be done in such style isn't it?
I love what I’ve played of dragon quest 7 but completely agree with your review. As much as I enjoy the good, there’s still a lot of fluff to get to the good stuff. I really like the concept of traveling back and forth in time just because you literally see the impact the main character is making on the world.
Dragon Quest 7 is by far the best game in the series imo. Its funny how someone can love everything someone else hates about a game hahaha. I loved, love, love the slooooow burn building up its crazy world.
re: the music. THANK YOU. DQ is the only RPG series I’ve ever played in which the music does absolutely nothing for me. I am not trying to admonish art but it feels so meandering and devoid of diversity and emotion. Maybe other RPGs spoiled me.
I just don´t get it, why DQ 8 and 7 3DS have orchestrial OST in Japan versions but in the EU / US, they use midis or something? I heard in PS2 days, DQ 8 had orchestra in EU / US and midis in Japan.
Im surprised, this is actually a well thoughtout review. And I believe Nobuo's music from FF is much more memorable. But I do love dq 2 and 3's music thou. Want to play through 4 and 5 before I decide which composer is better to me.
I disagree with you on the music of DQ, I personally love the music with all my heart, but I sometimes wish there was more variety. Like maybe some unique dungeon or town themes. Besides that, this was a nice review, and I'll be checking your other DQ reviews out very soon.
i tried SO HARD to get into this game when it was one of the only games i had access to due to a hurricane wiping out the town's power for two weeks. even that didn't keep me interested, though. i got a good ways in, i think, but it was just so continuously exhausting
I played this back on the PSone and I was stoked when, a million hours in, a job system appeared. At the time my fav game was FF tactics. Anyway a hundred hours later I totally gave up. Slog indeed!
Fantastic review! I'm still super stoked to give this a chance one day though haha, not sure when I will but damn, I love me some DQ. I wonder what I'll think of it! It looks so good but the 100 hour beat time does sound pretty daunting...yikes. Great video as always dude!
That's crazy. I played a part of the PS1 version, specifically the intro that's heavily criticised. I loved it (no random encounters, just exploring and puzzling, very unique for a JRPG), but I can't speak of any other parts of the game. This intro was removed in this version and I heard pacing is a lot better, so I'm surprised the game's still soo slow. Also I also keep forgetting the party chat in these games 😅
I dropped it after finally getting the job system. Everything was just too much, too tedious. I pushed through to get the job system to see how it was when combat opened up but then being met with having to start from square one with the job and build up a team.. I was exhausted. Motivation dead. Great on you for powering through the entire game!
That's true! But I love the franchise so much that I just don't care. I enjoy playing the game a lot, even when it becomes boring for many other people, so i just find it rewarding to go through every corner of the game.
As a big time Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest fan I sadly must agree on Dragon Quest 7. This game will put you to sleep. Especially if you played the PS1 version first. When I got the chance to play Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 it was the game that truly revitalized my passion for the series. The comparison between the two is easily night and day going to making it more simple in 8. Still if if it wasn't for the drag time on 7 this game would be another masterpiece in the franchise. If you plan on playing 7 go with the 3DS version. Thanks again. ( Just for the record I've played both 7 games and I didn't complete 7 on the 3DS since I already beat it once on the PS1. For what its worth the 3DS version is much faster. )
I just finished my first DQ game, and I choose V. What a blast, it made me appreciate even more traditional JRPGs, as I played it after FF7 remake. The sense of adventure and wonder, the progression and pacing, everything just clicked and I understand why so many people love this game, it is a masterpiece and a very fun JRPG. I don’t think that we need our jrpgs to become half baked action rpgs, I’ve been busy playing classic games to wash off the bad taste that FF7r let in my mouth, and it has been a blast. I finished FFI, FFV, FFX, XII and Chrono Cross, and every single one of these games were better experiences to me, than the remake, and the older games were consistently better than the newer in most cases. FF I and V were fun adventures, with V being one game that I avoided for 2 decades and now that I’ve played, I think it is on par with 6 (7 is my favorite) similarly CC was difficult for me, I never “got it”, till now, and what beautiful game, I dare say as good as Trigger. And DQV was such a joy, an intricate story throughout the whole life of the protagonist, it really is a game that is easy to spend hours and hours just trying to capture the Metal Slime and having fun. FFX was a game that in the same manner as 5 and Chrono Cross, I was avoiding by prejudice, it was definitely a lesser game in my opinion, very linear and with many problems that lessens the experience to me. The combat is great, but you can’t do anything against the super bosses, because there is a “right way” to deal with then. The great thing about 10 was the sphere grid and how open to experimentation it is, but besides this, it is a “better FF13” with a way betraying ending. I truly loved 10, but it is below my favorite FF games. 12 was the opposite in terms of my expectations, I always loved its aesthetics and the world, but the game was too long, too boring at times, a combat tiresome that disengaged me, I dropped the game with 60+ hours on the ps2 and spent more 130+ hours now to finally finish it, it is another great game but deeply flawed as X before it and 13 after. In my opinion FF never reached the greatness after 9. All games from X onwards are flawed in one way or another, and now they completely abandoned the Jrpg to make bad action games, so I’m happy to have Dragon Quest XI (and the whole DQ back catalogue) to play, Persona and SMT and many classics in my backlog of jrpgs, now that FF is dead. I still will play rebirth, I hope it addresses many problems of the remake, such as the excessive artificial bloat, the lack of options in the combat and a true huge world to explore with meaningful side content.
I tried playing this on my psx. It was after 100 hours seeing what all I had left to do was still gonna take another 30 or more. So I was done. No interest going back.
I remember playing this game on the PS1, I don't remember actually finishing it, but I do remember really enjoying it. It helped that I was like, 10 or so when I played it, so I had all the time in the world, and wasn't really all that bothered by games taking a lot time to beat, and I had just recently gotten into JRPGs after playing through FFVII and then FFVIII. I'm fairly sure the only reason I never actually finished it is because I got a mod-chip put in for Christmas the one year and started getting craploads of pirated games whenever I went up to Toronto to see my uncle and we went to (if I recall correctly) the Pacific Mall where they had multiple stores that would sell pirated games for like $5 Canadian a piece.
I've played all the main series Dragon Quest games (well, besides X), and VII is by far my favorite. I've beaten both the PS1 and 3DS versions (PS1 twice!) and it's because of the writing. I love the vignettes that cross over between islands. There's one where these two people who are clearly in love with each other have a series of bad things happen to them - and the player sees this over a long period of time playing the game, where you genuinely want to see what is going on in between visits into their lives. It's not a grand, "save the universe" story, it's a small story about two people who are fairly incidental to the main plot. That sort of thing is why I love the game. Although I also enjoyed breaking the game over my knee with the class system haha
As a fan of DQ and someone who's always been interested in VII since I first read about it in a gaming mag, I was honestly pretty disappointed with it. It's got a really interesting premise, and I actually don't mind the long intro, but the different story vignettes just weren't all that captivating. The only ones that really stood out to me were the Alltrades Abbey story and the tragic romance once. The game felt very bland overall, and visually speaking there's not that many differences between the past and present time periods (something as simple as a different colour palette would've sufficed). I reached what was the disc 2 portion of the game in the original PS1 version and checked out. Played DQXI instead, which was so much more entertaining.
I thank DQ7 for teaching me, on average, I don't enjoy JRPGs. Not unconditionally. There's a reason games like Chrono Trigger and Paper Mario are so beloved and that is because their short length has trimmed all the fat. I don't think any game is allowed to waste my time, regardless of genre. RPGs don't get a free pass.
I bought this Dragon Quest on 3DS years ago, and for as much as I enjoyed it, she's right. Getting through the story is quite a slog, not helped at all by the fact that how to progress it can be frequently vague (even with hints). Seriously, I had look through an entire video walkthrough to complete it. I was dreaded hearing the stories about the PSX version. You speak the truth girl. I still like DQVII but I'm so glad the games after are not like this at all.
One of my favourite games of all time. I skipped 3 months of school to finish it when it first came out in 00. I tried playing the 3ds remake but that just felt too fast and watered down : D
I can't stand the Akira Toriyama artwork, it takes two hours to get into combat, and it has nothing really unique. Got it. I'll buy it immediately. 😜 This is why I watch Pelvic Gaming. You're totally honest with your audience, the realest mf'er on the internet. Keep up the good work!
Love the art style / graphics in this game! 🎨🎨🎨 Same with the obscure (in the west) Dragon Quest XI for the 3DS. The more abstract and cartoony art style works so well with the dragon quest character designs.
I got it for PS1, Christmas 2001. Not only did my friends make fun of me for liking a game with terrible graphics (even for the time) but it was so damned slow and unforgiving at times that I gave up around half way through and never finished it. I have finished 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,11S But still, to this day, VII haunts me. I also have never played 9 that’s the next one for me.
When this came out, I tried making the first adventure in my next D&D campaign trap-and-puzzle flavored, thinking it was innovative to put off fighting and accenting the other parts of the game. It didn't work.
Dragon Quest VII being such a slow game has a major advantage: it's very easy to pick up and play after setting it down for an extended period of time. I've managed to keep the same file going for years since the game came out, and I've never felt the need to have to restart from the beginning to get a feel for the game again.
Dragon Quest VII is my favorite Dragon Quest! I played it first on PS1 as Dragon Warrior 7. And let me tell you, the older version is even harder because there are hints as to where the pieces are, sometimes... maybe... You may just have to go everywhere and talk to everyone multiple times... Anyway, I love the jobs system and the fact that there are monster classes is even better. I know, you're right, it's grindy as crap and I love it. I even love listening to people talk about it when they didn't enjoy it. I may actually play through it again.
I played the PS1 version as a kid and made it about halfway through, but ultimately didn't finish it. In my college years, I picked the game back up, and was so excited to finish it. It was like my white whale lol. But with the benefit of age came the realization of how fucking grindy this shit was. The PS1 version, mind you. I pushed myself thru for 40 hours until I realized that my younger self had dodged a bullet by quitting all those years ago. I will give it credit for the concept. I really like the idea of going back to the past to restore the world, but structurally, the game doesn't work IMO.
I finished this game yesterday mainly cause i wanted to see if you were right, and i regret to inform that you were 100% right. Going back and forth the same locations is boring, specially when their approach to time traveling is use it to progress the story in that island but no one else mentions it - and if they do, it's just an observation. The pacing is AWFUL, i was liking the game in the beginning, but towards the middle it really becomes a chore and the fact that you can't use Zoom in the past makes the game 10x slower than it should be. Such a shame, they could had made this game a better DQ7 experience, a fast-mode of sorts would have made this game much more enjoyable.
I remember playing this game when it came out. it was really good however it isn't a 40 hour campaign what most people have been saying. I can remember being 37 hours into it and maybe 1/4 through the game. I tried to play through it like 3 times and never did get to th end before i quit. I got close once though. its still a great game. I think they were trying to deliver a DQ game that would last for years of replayability. also i wish they would put all these DQ games on steam or something so i can replay them on my PC. its so annoying trying to find an emulator and getting a copy of it to play.
7 was my first dragon quest game. Though i played it on Playstation as dragon warrior. It is atill my favorite dragon quest game to date. Also it wasnt hard to find th fragments. You have to embrace the spirit of dragon quest explore everything.
The only thing I don’t like about seven is the level caps on vocational grinding. It incentivizes that you halt all progress and grind to max vocations lest you become overleveled and screw yourself later on.
I tried starting this game 6 times but I never left the first town , now I know the reason . Thanks for the vídeo, hope you have a great time in your days
LOL I SAVE MY STAT UPGRADE ITEMS TILL THE VERY END FOR THIS REASON. I DUNNO WHICH BITCHES WERE COMIN' OR GOIN'. AND LEMME TELL YOU PEOPLE TOWARD THE END ARE IN AND OUT OF YOUR PARTY.
My least liked DQ. I remember thinking oh my god, the ending must be coming up soon right?. 10hrs later I’m screaming END ALREADY. 30hrs later it’s still not ending. I will never play this game again
I am not a fan of changing classes. Final fantasy tactics was the only game i liked it. Not only are the battles actually fun. But jobs are done better in that than any other game ive seen.
My favourite after DQV. I just love the cozy gameplay of the series. Finding a new village talking to all the NPCs, smashing pots & barrels, looting drawers & cupboards & the endless little vignettes. Its repetitiveness is what makes it the perfect Dragon Quest for me lol. Great content & very honest, even though I had to the opposite experience. Different people like different things after all. Perfect example Sugiyama is my favourite videogame composer & VII is my favourite soundtrack of the series too lol.
I've only ever experienced this watching a Japanese streamer play it. She was having a good time, and it didn't seem longer than other RPGs she plays. Granted she... Mostly plays dragon quest lol. But yeah, it's why i was excited to see you excited when you got it. But at least you didn't hate it.
So few games have given me the sense of progression and world building that DQ7 has. I wish I could understand why so many western players are so apprehensive to the game deciding to pace itself differently. While I understand why people would dislike the game, I don't understand the complete dismissal of what the game is trying (and succeeding) to do. Imo I think talking about the game as if "It takes a while to get going" just misses the point. You aren't supposed to be there purely for the traditional plot structure portion of the game. It feels like people just boot up a JRPG expecting such a homogonous structure so things like a larger focus on puzzles and exploration and taking much longer to get to combat are seen as negatives rather than just the game being different. There's just a sense of scope/scale and attention to detail regarding worldbuilding that few other RPGs have managed to match for me. I wholly understand why folks looking for a more traditional structure and faster paced game will come out disappointed, but I don't view that as a negative. I'm proud of the game for daring to be different and I just wish that got as much praise in the west as it does in Japan.
Love this game to death! I think DQ actually nails the concept of making longer games more than most other developers nowadays. Sure, it undeniably drags, especially in the beginning where it takes hours to even reach your first encounter. BUT, a lot of RPGs and other games nowadays tried to extend their lifespan by bloating the game with side content and collectibles, questing, etc. In Dragon Quest, most of what you do is going towards the progression of the story, and most side content, mainly the mini medals, you stumble upon while just playing through the story anyways. I much prefer this style of game. Open worlds are great don't get me wrong, but because so much of it just copy paste collectible/chest/quest at any given location, it feels much more like a drag than this game does
I love job class systems, but my take away from DQVII was that you have to wait so long to get them and then start grinding to move through the tiers. It would have been so much better if you got them at the beginning
DQ6 is easier theirs a area where job classes still COUNT for job lving if at LV 99 and you can actually go to that area BEFORE the jobs itself even unlock in the first place only you need at least 1 Sage and 1 Paladin FULLY mastered by lv 25 BEFORE you stand ANY chance of killing the lv 40+ enemies in that area.
I could never get passed the intro to dragon quest 5 and 7. These types of rpgs always took to long for me to get into and always seemed way to cryptic.
@@PelvicGaming VI is weirder. it starts of strong with a good 1st arc but randomly the plot decides to fade into the dust for a good couple hours before it decides to pick up again. VII to me feels like VI but better execution it is longer but the premise is consistent from start to end and knows what it wants to be
@@jaretco6423 I do think 7 3DS does it the best, it does come in later than 6 but they trimmed down the amount of battles by a ton, the traveller tablets make grinding less boring to do
It was the first dq that i played. The gameplay feel very simple, they not force to be strategic is attack and heal, use magic or special techniques are useless because almost none monster are weak to a specific moves. I not speak english so i like your videos to improve my listening level and i like rpgs but aren't many vtubers in spanish that speak about it. So thanks.
11 is the only DQ game where I didn't enjoy the compositions tbh, but I can totally understand not digging the music. 12 will have a different composer since the old one passed away recently.
Back in the PS1 days, RPGs were expected to be long. And this game fulfilled that expectation. However, you cannot escape comparing this game with its main competition, Final Fantasy VII. While FFVII was a huge departure from the traditional RPG settings, display & story; DQVII doubled down on the traditional. Medieval settings, pixel art, normal turn based attacks and a 'G' rated story set the tone for how DQ would try to compete for FF in the future. IMO, it isn't a surprise that Square bought out Enix after this game was released.
Are you trying to imply RPGs aren't long today? Look at games like Persona and Octopath Travler that never end. I don't think the genre has been short since the 16-bit era. And I wish we could go back to that less bloated run time.
@@blossom357 I should have articulated my point a little better. RPGs started being routinely massive when the introduction of CDs from cartridges. And I agree, developers didn't stop and ask if they should make the game longer just because they could. And while I haven't played Persona, I do love the value Octopath Traveler brings.
Interesting how many people today see 7 as almost the worst one in the series. In the past I remember how I heard numerous times from different sources, how DQ 7 on ps1 is better than anything from Final Fantasy and other RPGs. Official PS magazine in Europe was writing something about the topic at the time, and how Dragon Quest is "much" more succesful in Japan than Final Fantasy, and DQ7 was something like miracle for them.
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Loved Eastward. Looking forward to the review
Ni No Kuni II is my vote.
Good to see you back making videos again
Are you still streaming? I didn’t see a schedule on that other streaming platform.
Persona 4, baby!! - (from the guy who told you Earthbound was bad on stream)
It took me 3 years to complete the game, but I think it was worth it
Y-You think?
You make me laugh. It took me 10 years!✌️
i drop it some time ago, and can't find in walkthrough moment on time i'm in xD i think i need to start over
Same
It took me about 3 months with 220 hours, but I didn't have a job at the time. So Dragon warrior 7 took up most of my days
DQ7 is just a product of it's time. Back then there was a big demand for these long ass JRPGS. We didn't want our games to end, since most games were short, and we used to have to wait months or even years to get the next big game we really wanted. The fact that DQ7 took about 100 hours to beat, was pretty unheard of back then, and it was welcomed.
There's slow burn rpgs, and there's the "Is the stove even turned on...?" rpgs
one of my favorites games of all time, the feeling adventure was something i have never felt again in other game
I'm glad you enjoyed it! ♡
Even with all it's defects, DQ7 still is my favorite DQ world and lore.
And more power to ya!
Preach!
This game took me 100 hours, and that was just the main story. Good lord. I mean, I still had fun, but it LONG outstays its welcome.
I feel like vocation grinding and especially level caps are what make this game feel so grindy and slow.
Both 7 and 6 need a rework to this system.
Or at least remove level caps so we can level up without fear.
this game is very awkward to talk about because of its inconsistent pacing, certain parts are fantastic and imaginative and incredibly unique even within this amazing series. Then other parts are the biggest slogs youll find in your life. Also the remake may be the first game ever where adding on screen encounters makes the encounter rate worse because you have fast monsters in tight hallways.
Every part with Kiefer is fantastic. And then.. there is everything else.
The story with the soup robot really hit me hard when I first experienced it, what with being somewhat of an antisocial recluse myself. It still makes me tear up a bit thinking about it.
That and the REPEL spell or the THIEF job counter part version of it is NOT EVEN IN the 3DS version of it at all which doesn't help.
I really like the "episodic" format. It almost feels like a series. Dragon Quest is really good at making each town feel like a mini quest of it's own, with the pieces leading up to a greater whole, and I think if VII did one thing well (at least in concept), it was this.
It could have used a bit more character and a bit less plodding length, but the framework for a really great story is definitely there.
@@veghesther3204 3ds however does trim down the amount of battles to max out a vocation though
"Pick up this gamebefore marc 27 023" This came out June 3rd XD
I loved 7. I have been considering playing it again. it was easy for me to get through because of how it is all broken up into smaller bite size sections. It might be my favorite. Loved all the main characters.
The PS1 version is actually my favorite Dragon Quest! Despite all of it's flaws, I enjoy the pacing and the job grind. I love the intro dungeon which is all puzzles. Such a cool, unique, slow burn experience imo.
Though yes, it takes WAY too long to reach Dharma and the job system, and the event before Dharma where you get tricked and sent to Penal Town is the worst part of any Dragon Quest game I ever played lol
I love the pacing!
Big time Dragon Quest fan here. Think 7 is one of the best. I agree the pacing stinks but feels so rewarding to finish. I'm a sucker for the job class system and building your own dream team. Hope you enjoy DQ3 remake and 10 offline if we ever get it
This game is the essence of childhood innocence that in my mind is so closely related to JRPG (playing the genre since age 10). I can't explain it in terms of gameplay - this game has a certain magic like no other, it took me about 120 hours to complete and I've loved every minute of it. It's not the darkest, not the most innovative, and not the fastest JRPG for sure, but if you love the genre, it gives you an overdose of JRPG, pure old JRPG just like when you were an adolescent, and goes "over 9000" with it - dungeons, riddles, story, music, art, battles, class system, it's a celebration of the "old and simple" JRPG.
Nowadays it seems that a JRPG is considered good only if it changes the formula. I can respect that, but personally, I don't like the genre because I think it needs changing. I like non-gimmicky turn-based JRPGs that take hundreds of hours to play, hell, five hours just to get to the first battle! This game is in love with the genre, and as an old time fan, I'm in love with it.
Beautifully said.
I played this about 4 years ago and all I could tell you about the numerous villages you visit is that one has a volcano. I didn't even remember two of those party members, but I sure remember being mad at all the characters that suddenly leave.
It's also worth keeping in mind the context that the original came out. It came to the PSX during the absolute twilight of its lifespan. It literally came out the same year as Final Fantasy X (1 year before in Japan). People back then must have been really disappointed by it on a purely technical level. That combined with the game as a whole, it must have felt extremely dated.
I've been subscribed for quite a while but I never comment, but I saw your 2022 wrap up after catching up on some of your newer videos, and then I watched one of your older ones.
I just want to say I'm loving the new thumbnails and the new types of titles. You called them more clickbait-y and while they're definitely not the same straightforward titles as before I love that they're not anything ridiculous. Also that you keep the game title in the title. I've seen some clickbait titles that don't even tell you the game and it kills me lmao.
But also you've grown so much in making videos, and I really hope 2023 is the year you need it to be! Loved this look into DQ7, it solidified my plan to never play it, but I adore hearing about JRPGs I'll never play.
Oh, wow, yeah. I still can't believe I ever made it through the original PS1 version. I love Dragon Quest, truly. The original was my first RPG and 3, 4, 5, and 8 are some of my all-time favorites. 7, though? You really can have too much of a good thing.
I cannot believe you did either. Kudos to you.
I'm glad to see 5 and 8 love though!
@@PelvicGaming DQ 5 and 8 are incredible.
The PSX one takes even longer! The game speed is slower and the opening tablet dungeon is an actual puzzle dungeon.
To answer how we ps1 players played this originally: well, I didn't really have anything else to play back in 2001 (had already beaten my other games and money was tight) so it was easy to focus on this and work with others via the GameFAQs message boards.
I played it years later like somewhere in 2010-2012. I heard it was long and I didn't have a job at the time. That's why I decided to play it.
@@newgameaaaa pretty similar to my experience. I bought it at launch. I wasn't really taking high school seriously at all so I'd just trudge through classes doing the bare minimum and then go home and stay up late playing. Back then, the advertised 100+ hours of gameplay was a relatively new, novel concept, and I was enthralled with it. Nowadays, I'd be intimidated to even start something like that.
My first play through was over 200 hrs when I was a kid. A lot of that was talking to townspeople people multiple times, hunting shards, and visiting old towns cause they have new stuff to say every so often. I’d visit all the fortune tellers cause they’d give you hints on where to go next. Only thing I never did was figure out how to open the two bonus dungeons. It’s my favorite Dragon Quest and I remember being really disappointed when I beat 8 in 45 hrs
Can confirm. It's about 2 hours before you fight your first Slime. Definitely over 80 hours before I beat it.
Yup. Though I still have my original Brady Games strategy guide for it. Whoops! I mean Prima Guide.
For everyone: If you really want to play (or replay) Dragon Quest, just go for the best games in the franchise: DQ 4 and 5. I'm not saying that the are bad games in Dragon Quest, just remember that they are formulaic, but IV and V just excels in every aspect.
Here, your DQ fan❤
This is what a lot of developers got wrong in this genre of games. RPGs have to be a perfect mix of story telling and game play. Too much plot slows the game down. Too much game detaches you from the plot. DQ7 is an example of the writers not knowing how to proper load the front end of a story, so you aren't dragging. And as you pointed out, they may have abused the game cycle formula a tad.
yeah...never forget you are making a game first and a story second(with the exception being the niche genre of visual novels.) The purpose of story in a game should be to motivate you to see what happens next so you have a reason to keep playing. I feel like a lot of game developers have forgotten this and now they sometimes make story too much of the focus. If you go back to early Squaresoft games there was a really great level of story to gameplay.
I think the Tales series always nails the perfect balance.
The only Dragon Quest I never finished. I attempted years ago on PSX and again on 3DS. I just couldn't do it. This game desperately needs a hard mode. It would be good if not for the fact that the battles have absolutely zero challenge.
I agree so hard with this lmao. I really wanted to like DQ7 but it was waaay too slow for me. And I like to think that I have a high tolerance for slow RPGs too. After spending 225 hours in DQ11 whenever I heard people say that 7 came with three hundred hours worth of content I got really excited, until I got far into it and found that it takes three hundred hours because it's just build to be a slow game in almost all aspects
Dragon Quest XI isn’t slow. A long games doesn’t equal slow.
Only 2 hours to get to the first fight? It's so much longer in the original PSX. And the portal rooms? You're so right, the time wasting was insane.
About that its around 45 MINUTES on the 3DS version for the first fight a MINIMUM of 55 to 1 HOUR on the PS1 version.
Im very biased cause i played this game on the ps1 as a teenager in 2003-2004 when my family was broke and we didnt even have internet or phone for some time due to being broke (father losing job in a country with much sociopolitical turmoil). Lack of internet also meant i couldn't look anything up and had to be fully immersed. It was also the only game i was playing, borrowed indefinitely from a friend. That said, the slow pacing was a feature in these circumstances, i felt very immersed figuring things out and exploring the world my party kept rescuing and expanding. As i had no internet and was coming in blind, things like the class system appearing out of nowhere after hours playing came as a pleasant surprise (i was already a big fan of job systems after playing FF5 and FFT).... all that said, in the saturated fast paced infoexplosion condensed world we're in now, with everyone likely having extensive game backlogs (especially for people having real life adult jobs which i didn't have when i played DW7), i can imagine my perspective of this game would be quite different coming in fresh into it; but back in 2003, i freaking loved it and i still get quite nostalgic about it.
It's terrifying to think that the PS1 version had even worse pacing!
Great review as always, Pelvic!
I really disagree with you. I don't think a game being long is inherently a flaw. It's entirely subjective, so I do respect your opinion! But I think the only two major pacing flaws in this game are getting to the first battle and then unlocking the class sytem. Other than that, I was never bored, even getting to those landmarks. Each little vignette is paced perfectly, with some of the most genuinely profound and heartfelt stories in the entire series. I personally thought it was very rewarding to go to an island, solve the issues, go back to the present and see what changed, and get bits of dialogue and visual storytelling to show the player how things turned out. I find it INCREDIBLY effective and satisfying from beginning to end, never once being tired of it.
I personally think 8 has far worse pacing despite being slower because the story essentially boils down to, "the villain is here, no he's there, no wait, he's THERE" with so little urgency outside of introductory character arcs. I also don't think the plot ever really progresses outside of the beginning, while 7 slowly unravels individual and overarching mysteries as time goes on. It also having little vignettes that are, imo, one, weaker, and 2 less justified because the game just insists there's ever looming danger you need to address. I hardly feel these stories justify themselves outside maybe the Charmles quest. That's just my opinion, I know I'm in the minority. I also played the PS2 version which may or may not have been the wrong choice for me personally.
TL;DR my hot take is I like VII more than VIII.
This is the game that made me invested into DQ, where other rpgs mostly have story focus into main character & world lore. This one instead did differently by focusing on each of individual town story. I felt even more satisfied when at the end, all of the towns connected together.
@@firzaprama7 That's awesome! I agree, the game focusing more than ever on the individual stroies almost made the game feel more like a grand adventure to me. Because the game was basically able to tell two stories per arc; the past and then the present. And I agree, the end, seeing them all together, incredibly satisfying. I would much rather replay VII in a heartbeat over VIII, but that's just me.
@@KingOfHart34 I've never played VIII before, but that past & present of individual stories in VII that you've mentioned is definitely caught me off guard with the storytelling style and got me hooked to the end (even though I had to do many tedious grind).
This is the only one DQ story to be done in such style isn't it?
@@firzaprama7Yes, I think so!
I have finally found my people.
I love what I’ve played of dragon quest 7 but completely agree with your review. As much as I enjoy the good, there’s still a lot of fluff to get to the good stuff. I really like the concept of traveling back and forth in time just because you literally see the impact the main character is making on the world.
If I recall correctly, it takes until halfway way through the game until you have access to dlc.
Dragon Quest 7 is by far the best game in the series imo. Its funny how someone can love everything someone else hates about a game hahaha. I loved, love, love the slooooow burn building up its crazy world.
re: the music. THANK YOU. DQ is the only RPG series I’ve ever played in which the music does absolutely nothing for me. I am not trying to admonish art but it feels so meandering and devoid of diversity and emotion. Maybe other RPGs spoiled me.
I just don´t get it, why DQ 8 and 7 3DS have orchestrial OST in Japan versions but in the EU / US, they use midis or something? I heard in PS2 days, DQ 8 had orchestra in EU / US and midis in Japan.
This game took my cousin and I a whole summer to get through when we were little. Great memories.
Missed a perfect opportunity to caption this Drag on Quest 😂
Im surprised, this is actually a well thoughtout review. And I believe Nobuo's music from FF is much more memorable. But I do love dq 2 and 3's music thou. Want to play through 4 and 5 before I decide which composer is better to me.
I disagree with you on the music of DQ, I personally love the music with all my heart, but I sometimes wish there was more variety. Like maybe some unique dungeon or town themes. Besides that, this was a nice review, and I'll be checking your other DQ reviews out very soon.
I wonder why I just got notification of this video now. It says posted 23 seconds ago but there are comments 1 and 2 days old on it. Weird.
Early access on Patreon. ;)
i tried SO HARD to get into this game when it was one of the only games i had access to due to a hurricane wiping out the town's power for two weeks. even that didn't keep me interested, though. i got a good ways in, i think, but it was just so continuously exhausting
I played this back on the PSone and I was stoked when, a million hours in, a job system appeared. At the time my fav game was FF tactics. Anyway a hundred hours later I totally gave up. Slog indeed!
How long have you been sitting on this video? That warning about getting it on the eShop before it closed, almost 3 months ago. Man, sad times.
Fantastic review! I'm still super stoked to give this a chance one day though haha, not sure when I will but damn, I love me some DQ. I wonder what I'll think of it! It looks so good but the 100 hour beat time does sound pretty daunting...yikes. Great video as always dude!
I was like you once, excited to play dq7....then I played it. Couldn't wait for it to end haha. As always thank you so much for watching! ♡
That's crazy. I played a part of the PS1 version, specifically the intro that's heavily criticised. I loved it (no random encounters, just exploring and puzzling, very unique for a JRPG), but I can't speak of any other parts of the game. This intro was removed in this version and I heard pacing is a lot better, so I'm surprised the game's still soo slow.
Also I also keep forgetting the party chat in these games 😅
The job system is my favorite JRPG mechanic
Spoilers:
I just like how God is a good guy in this game. It's almost funny how much gods are bad in JRPG, so it was a nice little twist.
I dropped it after finally getting the job system. Everything was just too much, too tedious. I pushed through to get the job system to see how it was when combat opened up but then being met with having to start from square one with the job and build up a team.. I was exhausted. Motivation dead. Great on you for powering through the entire game!
THe job system is getting to late and rise level demands a lot of grind. Yes is a rpg but the gameplay is basic and grind turn boring
Exactly what happened on my playthrough of the original version.
That's true! But I love the franchise so much that I just don't care. I enjoy playing the game a lot, even when it becomes boring for many other people, so i just find it rewarding to go through every corner of the game.
As a big time Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest fan I sadly must agree on Dragon Quest 7.
This game will put you to sleep. Especially if you played the PS1 version first.
When I got the chance to play Dragon Quest 8 on PS2 it was the game that truly revitalized my passion for the series.
The comparison between the two is easily night and day going to making it more simple in 8.
Still if if it wasn't for the drag time on 7 this game would be another masterpiece in the franchise.
If you plan on playing 7 go with the 3DS version. Thanks again.
( Just for the record I've played both 7 games and I didn't complete 7 on the 3DS since I already beat it once on the PS1.
For what its worth the 3DS version is much faster. )
Not game related but Pelvic's face in the preview screenshot had me cackling
This video could've been titled "Lady Pelvic DRAGS DQ7 for 10 minutes straight, " hahaha.
The back and forth is insufferable.
I just finished my first DQ game, and I choose V. What a blast, it made me appreciate even more traditional JRPGs, as I played it after FF7 remake.
The sense of adventure and wonder, the progression and pacing, everything just clicked and I understand why so many people love this game, it is a masterpiece and a very fun JRPG. I don’t think that we need our jrpgs to become half baked action rpgs, I’ve been busy playing classic games to wash off the bad taste that FF7r let in my mouth, and it has been a blast. I finished FFI, FFV, FFX, XII and Chrono Cross, and every single one of these games were better experiences to me, than the remake, and the older games were consistently better than the newer in most cases.
FF I and V were fun adventures, with V being one game that I avoided for 2 decades and now that I’ve played, I think it is on par with 6 (7 is my favorite) similarly CC was difficult for me, I never “got it”, till now, and what beautiful game, I dare say as good as Trigger. And DQV was such a joy, an intricate story throughout the whole life of the protagonist, it really is a game that is easy to spend hours and hours just trying to capture the Metal Slime and having fun.
FFX was a game that in the same manner as 5 and Chrono Cross, I was avoiding by prejudice, it was definitely a lesser game in my opinion, very linear and with many problems that lessens the experience to me.
The combat is great, but you can’t do anything against the super bosses, because there is a “right way” to deal with then. The great thing about 10 was the sphere grid and how open to experimentation it is, but besides this, it is a “better FF13” with a way betraying ending. I truly loved 10, but it is below my favorite FF games.
12 was the opposite in terms of my expectations, I always loved its aesthetics and the world, but the game was too long, too boring at times, a combat tiresome that disengaged me, I dropped the game with 60+ hours on the ps2 and spent more 130+ hours now to finally finish it, it is another great game but deeply flawed as X before it and 13 after.
In my opinion FF never reached the greatness after 9. All games from X onwards are flawed in one way or another, and now they completely abandoned the Jrpg to make bad action games, so I’m happy to have Dragon Quest XI (and the whole DQ back catalogue) to play, Persona and SMT and many classics in my backlog of jrpgs, now that FF is dead.
I still will play rebirth, I hope it addresses many problems of the remake, such as the excessive artificial bloat, the lack of options in the combat and a true huge world to explore with meaningful side content.
I tried playing this on my psx. It was after 100 hours seeing what all I had left to do was still gonna take another 30 or more. So I was done. No interest going back.
Is this a re-upload? Or was the “pick it up before March 2023” a joke? Btw i always love your lipstick 🙏🏼
I have a backlog of videos this one had been done since Feb/March.
Thank you for watching!
I remember playing this game on the PS1, I don't remember actually finishing it, but I do remember really enjoying it. It helped that I was like, 10 or so when I played it, so I had all the time in the world, and wasn't really all that bothered by games taking a lot time to beat, and I had just recently gotten into JRPGs after playing through FFVII and then FFVIII. I'm fairly sure the only reason I never actually finished it is because I got a mod-chip put in for Christmas the one year and started getting craploads of pirated games whenever I went up to Toronto to see my uncle and we went to (if I recall correctly) the Pacific Mall where they had multiple stores that would sell pirated games for like $5 Canadian a piece.
I've played all the main series Dragon Quest games (well, besides X), and VII is by far my favorite. I've beaten both the PS1 and 3DS versions (PS1 twice!) and it's because of the writing. I love the vignettes that cross over between islands. There's one where these two people who are clearly in love with each other have a series of bad things happen to them - and the player sees this over a long period of time playing the game, where you genuinely want to see what is going on in between visits into their lives. It's not a grand, "save the universe" story, it's a small story about two people who are fairly incidental to the main plot. That sort of thing is why I love the game. Although I also enjoyed breaking the game over my knee with the class system haha
As a fan of DQ and someone who's always been interested in VII since I first read about it in a gaming mag, I was honestly pretty disappointed with it. It's got a really interesting premise, and I actually don't mind the long intro, but the different story vignettes just weren't all that captivating. The only ones that really stood out to me were the Alltrades Abbey story and the tragic romance once. The game felt very bland overall, and visually speaking there's not that many differences between the past and present time periods (something as simple as a different colour palette would've sufficed). I reached what was the disc 2 portion of the game in the original PS1 version and checked out. Played DQXI instead, which was so much more entertaining.
I thank DQ7 for teaching me, on average, I don't enjoy JRPGs. Not unconditionally. There's a reason games like Chrono Trigger and Paper Mario are so beloved and that is because their short length has trimmed all the fat. I don't think any game is allowed to waste my time, regardless of genre. RPGs don't get a free pass.
DQ are jrpg with a basic gameplay, don't need strategy to defeat booses, just the right level if you don't have you'll grind.
I bought this Dragon Quest on 3DS years ago, and for as much as I enjoyed it, she's right. Getting through the story is quite a slog, not helped at all by the fact that how to progress it can be frequently vague (even with hints). Seriously, I had look through an entire video walkthrough to complete it. I was dreaded hearing the stories about the PSX version. You speak the truth girl. I still like DQVII but I'm so glad the games after are not like this at all.
One of my favourite games of all time. I skipped 3 months of school to finish it when it first came out in 00.
I tried playing the 3ds remake but that just felt too fast and watered down : D
Whoaaa what a story! 3 months of school?! Hope you weren't paying for those classes haha
I can't stand the Akira Toriyama artwork, it takes two hours to get into combat, and it has nothing really unique. Got it. I'll buy it immediately. 😜
This is why I watch Pelvic Gaming. You're totally honest with your audience, the realest mf'er on the internet. Keep up the good work!
Love the art style / graphics in this game! 🎨🎨🎨 Same with the obscure (in the west) Dragon Quest XI for the 3DS. The more abstract and cartoony art style works so well with the dragon quest character designs.
I got it for PS1, Christmas 2001. Not only did my friends make fun of me for liking a game with terrible graphics (even for the time) but it was so damned slow and unforgiving at times that I gave up around half way through and never finished it.
I have finished 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,11S
But still, to this day, VII haunts me. I also have never played 9 that’s the next one for me.
Already, i want to play this game. It looks whimsical, yet adventurous.
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Yeah. It took me two years to beat DQ7 on PS1 because of that. And that was WITH a player's guide.
When this came out, I tried making the first adventure in my next D&D campaign trap-and-puzzle flavored, thinking it was innovative to put off fighting and accenting the other parts of the game. It didn't work.
Dragon Quest VII being such a slow game has a major advantage: it's very easy to pick up and play after setting it down for an extended period of time. I've managed to keep the same file going for years since the game came out, and I've never felt the need to have to restart from the beginning to get a feel for the game again.
love that mm painting
I subbed and clicked the notification bell. This is amazing video! And we need more female gamers who do reviews and vids like you.
this is easily the best game on the 3ds in my opinion, loved it.
Dragon Quest VII is my favorite Dragon Quest! I played it first on PS1 as Dragon Warrior 7. And let me tell you, the older version is even harder because there are hints as to where the pieces are, sometimes... maybe... You may just have to go everywhere and talk to everyone multiple times... Anyway, I love the jobs system and the fact that there are monster classes is even better. I know, you're right, it's grindy as crap and I love it. I even love listening to people talk about it when they didn't enjoy it. I may actually play through it again.
I remember the moment I quit this game. During the volcano ritual, parade, thing. It is so slow.
I played the PS1 version as a kid and made it about halfway through, but ultimately didn't finish it. In my college years, I picked the game back up, and was so excited to finish it. It was like my white whale lol.
But with the benefit of age came the realization of how fucking grindy this shit was. The PS1 version, mind you. I pushed myself thru for 40 hours until I realized that my younger self had dodged a bullet by quitting all those years ago.
I will give it credit for the concept. I really like the idea of going back to the past to restore the world, but structurally, the game doesn't work IMO.
I finished this game yesterday mainly cause i wanted to see if you were right, and i regret to inform that you were 100% right.
Going back and forth the same locations is boring, specially when their approach to time traveling is use it to progress the story in that island but no one else mentions it - and if they do, it's just an observation. The pacing is AWFUL, i was liking the game in the beginning, but towards the middle it really becomes a chore and the fact that you can't use Zoom in the past makes the game 10x slower than it should be.
Such a shame, they could had made this game a better DQ7 experience, a fast-mode of sorts would have made this game much more enjoyable.
I loved your vibe, lady. I'd subscribed after that. Kisses from Mexico City.
I'll never forget playing dragon quest 7 as a kid listening to back to back 2pac CDs. It was everything back then.
I remember playing this game when it came out. it was really good however it isn't a 40 hour campaign what most people have been saying. I can remember being 37 hours into it and maybe 1/4 through the game. I tried to play through it like 3 times and never did get to th end before i quit. I got close once though. its still a great game. I think they were trying to deliver a DQ game that would last for years of replayability.
also i wish they would put all these DQ games on steam or something so i can replay them on my PC. its so annoying trying to find an emulator and getting a copy of it to play.
7 was my first dragon quest game. Though i played it on Playstation as dragon warrior. It is atill my favorite dragon quest game to date. Also it wasnt hard to find th fragments. You have to embrace the spirit of dragon quest explore everything.
Dragon Quest games in general require some serious patience. They take forever to get going.
I.. I completed this game in.. 2.5 weeks in March.. 😅
The only thing I don’t like about seven is the level caps on vocational grinding.
It incentivizes that you halt all progress and grind to max vocations lest you become overleveled and screw yourself later on.
Before I watch this: hope you got a good deal on this game if you purchased it recently. This game is not cheap
Annnd it’s been gifted. Problem solved!
I tried starting this game 6 times but I never left the first town , now I know the reason . Thanks for the vídeo, hope you have a great time in your days
I spent all my stat upgrade items on Keifer my first playthrough.
LOL I SAVE MY STAT UPGRADE ITEMS TILL THE VERY END FOR THIS REASON. I DUNNO WHICH BITCHES WERE COMIN' OR GOIN'. AND LEMME TELL YOU PEOPLE TOWARD THE END ARE IN AND OUT OF YOUR PARTY.
My least liked DQ. I remember thinking oh my god, the ending must be coming up soon right?. 10hrs later I’m screaming END ALREADY. 30hrs later it’s still not ending. I will never play this game again
I am not a fan of changing classes.
Final fantasy tactics was the only game i liked it.
Not only are the battles actually fun.
But jobs are done better in that than any other game ive seen.
Discover a town, get your hip-hip hurrays lmaaoo
My favourite after DQV. I just love the cozy gameplay of the series. Finding a new village talking to all the NPCs, smashing pots & barrels, looting drawers & cupboards & the endless little vignettes. Its repetitiveness is what makes it the perfect Dragon Quest for me lol. Great content & very honest, even though I had to the opposite experience. Different people like different things after all. Perfect example Sugiyama is my favourite videogame composer & VII is my favourite soundtrack of the series too lol.
I've only ever experienced this watching a Japanese streamer play it. She was having a good time, and it didn't seem longer than other RPGs she plays. Granted she... Mostly plays dragon quest lol. But yeah, it's why i was excited to see you excited when you got it. But at least you didn't hate it.
So few games have given me the sense of progression and world building that DQ7 has. I wish I could understand why so many western players are so apprehensive to the game deciding to pace itself differently. While I understand why people would dislike the game, I don't understand the complete dismissal of what the game is trying (and succeeding) to do. Imo I think talking about the game as if "It takes a while to get going" just misses the point. You aren't supposed to be there purely for the traditional plot structure portion of the game. It feels like people just boot up a JRPG expecting such a homogonous structure so things like a larger focus on puzzles and exploration and taking much longer to get to combat are seen as negatives rather than just the game being different.
There's just a sense of scope/scale and attention to detail regarding worldbuilding that few other RPGs have managed to match for me. I wholly understand why folks looking for a more traditional structure and faster paced game will come out disappointed, but I don't view that as a negative. I'm proud of the game for daring to be different and I just wish that got as much praise in the west as it does in Japan.
Thanks for the review!
I don't think i would have had the patience to beat this game without auto battle
Love this game to death! I think DQ actually nails the concept of making longer games more than most other developers nowadays. Sure, it undeniably drags, especially in the beginning where it takes hours to even reach your first encounter. BUT, a lot of RPGs and other games nowadays tried to extend their lifespan by bloating the game with side content and collectibles, questing, etc. In Dragon Quest, most of what you do is going towards the progression of the story, and most side content, mainly the mini medals, you stumble upon while just playing through the story anyways. I much prefer this style of game. Open worlds are great don't get me wrong, but because so much of it just copy paste collectible/chest/quest at any given location, it feels much more like a drag than this game does
I love job class systems, but my take away from DQVII was that you have to wait so long to get them and then start grinding to move through the tiers. It would have been so much better if you got them at the beginning
That's also been an issue with DQ6. While having these vocation class can be fun to access, they take forever to get them to master.
DQ6 is easier theirs a area where job classes still COUNT for job lving if at LV 99 and you can actually go to that area BEFORE the jobs itself even unlock in the first place only you need at least 1 Sage and 1 Paladin FULLY mastered by lv 25 BEFORE you stand ANY chance of killing the lv 40+ enemies in that area.
@@veghesther3204 How is that any easier?
The psx version is wayyyy worse in the opening hours.
Oh I know
@@PelvicGaming it makes the intro to Kingdom Hearts 2 look short. Sorry l like that comparison too much. Great review overall.
I could never get passed the intro to dragon quest 5 and 7. These types of rpgs always took to long for me to get into and always seemed way to cryptic.
Okay five has build up but it pays off in the end imo.
@@PelvicGaming might give'em another go idk.
@@PelvicGaming VI is weirder. it starts of strong with a good 1st arc but randomly the plot decides to fade into the dust for a good couple hours before it decides to pick up again. VII to me feels like VI but better execution it is longer but the premise is consistent from start to end and knows what it wants to be
@@jaretco6423 I do think 7 3DS does it the best, it does come in later than 6 but they trimmed down the amount of battles by a ton, the traveller tablets make grinding less boring to do
5 and 7 ended up being my two faves
On your other reviews you had a score, like for dq5 you put a 8-9? What would you say your score here was, Lady P?
It was the first dq that i played. The gameplay feel very simple, they not force to be strategic is attack and heal, use magic or special techniques are useless because almost none monster are weak to a specific moves.
I not speak english so i like your videos to improve my listening level and i like rpgs but aren't many vtubers in spanish that speak about it. So thanks.
I've been playing for a year, and I'm maybe 2/3's of the way through the game
Sounds about right...
no matter what people could say about this game the main villain is pretty good despite the fact they don't say what his motivation was
11 is the only DQ game where I didn't enjoy the compositions tbh, but I can totally understand not digging the music. 12 will have a different composer since the old one passed away recently.
Back in the PS1 days, RPGs were expected to be long. And this game fulfilled that expectation. However, you cannot escape comparing this game with its main competition, Final Fantasy VII. While FFVII was a huge departure from the traditional RPG settings, display & story; DQVII doubled down on the traditional. Medieval settings, pixel art, normal turn based attacks and a 'G' rated story set the tone for how DQ would try to compete for FF in the future. IMO, it isn't a surprise that Square bought out Enix after this game was released.
Are you trying to imply RPGs aren't long today? Look at games like Persona and Octopath Travler that never end. I don't think the genre has been short since the 16-bit era. And I wish we could go back to that less bloated run time.
@@blossom357 I should have articulated my point a little better. RPGs started being routinely massive when the introduction of CDs from cartridges. And I agree, developers didn't stop and ask if they should make the game longer just because they could. And while I haven't played Persona, I do love the value Octopath Traveler brings.
@Asphyxx I guess he meant the settings. It's not medieval era. But more into modern era like today.
I just wanna say, to all those pointing out my "March" comment, thanks for watching up to that point. Y'all the real ones. ;w;
Interesting how many people today see 7 as almost the worst one in the series. In the past I remember how I heard numerous times from different sources, how DQ 7 on ps1 is better than anything from Final Fantasy and other RPGs. Official PS magazine in Europe was writing something about the topic at the time, and how Dragon Quest is "much" more succesful in Japan than Final Fantasy, and DQ7 was something like miracle for them.