If I remember the ejector threw the empty shell a mile and it also kicked the loaded shell out too. It was hard on the shoulder in the bigger gauges being very lightweight. The striker fired design is something I am surprised to know. Thank you for sharing this great single shot shotgun. 👍🙂
You're correct! What cha do is make sure the barrel is pointed straight down to the ground in the 6 o'clock position. Then break the barrel and the shell will go straight up in air so you can catch it on the way down. Be SURE you know how look cool afterwards.
Good informational video. I just picked up a model 37 red letter 410 bore great shape, except for fore end shoe being broken. So I'm on a mission now getting the shoe repaired or replaced. Dropping it of to my Smith, hope he can work his magic.
My favorite shotguns. I buy every one that I find. Pigtail refers to the first year breech lever, not the hammer. There were 3 or 4 different hammer designs (I’ve only seen/own three different ones). There’s also the v notch just behind the barrel on the receiver that you never hear mentioned, that did not appear on all of the guns.
I worked in retail sporting goods and retail hardware in Washington State in the early 1970’s and an edict came down that any un-serialized firearm was REQUIRED to have a serial number and to be recorded…out came the Dremel electric pencils for a few years. Certainly felt almost sacrilegious pulling the blued metal out of the wood and sloppily scribbling a number/letter combination on that particular firearm…ugh to bureaucrats.
After Winchester acquired Cooey in 1961 they continued producing that shotgun as the Winchester/Cooey 84, then the Model 840, and then after 1968 it was sold as the Winchester Model 37A in the United States. Unfortunately each of those model changes involved reducing production cost and using less expensive materials in construction. We do not see many of the older Cooey guns here in Texas but we DO have a Model 37A. We will spin up a video on that one, stay tuned!
I like your show and benefit from the information. The set is so dark that I have difficulty seeing any detail of the firearms. Even with dim lighting, there are shadows and the firearm disappears into black shirt and black background. It's frustrating that I'm missing the visual part. The camera will likely focus better with better lighting.
When people are talking about a "pigtail" 37, they are referring to the release lever, not the hammer. The release lever on pigtail guns is a folded piece of steel that resembles a pig's tail instead of the solid lever like the one on this video. The first couple of years had a very skinny "hammer" that was somewhat difficult to cock/uncock so they made it a bit wider after the first few years and changed it several times over the years.
I have that gun. It belonged to my father. It has been in my family since the 1950s at least maybe longer. But it does not have that rubber butt stock peace. How much would it be worth? Do you know? I was told the National Guard gave them to men in the area at that time to protect the town. (Why I don't know.) It does not have the red line on it anymore. I was told it did have it back in the day.
All I ever saw growing up were the Savage/Stevens, H&R, and New England Firearms. I guess back then everyone in my town were too poor for a Winchester.
I wonder how much more it would've cost to have the 37's be hammerless with a safety like the Savage 220? IMO, that would be superior to the "semi-hammerless" design.
@@BTORangekeep em rolling out and I'll keep watching, there's a lot of gun nuts who love the older stuff, but don't know much about it. Keep the old gun reviews rolling man! Cheers!
I bought a mod 37 in 1955 when I was 15 yrs old ,16 gauge.still got it.
My great grandfather in West Virginia always referred to a "Red Letter Winchester". Thanks for showing this.
If I remember the ejector threw the empty shell a mile and it also kicked the loaded shell out too. It was hard on the shoulder in the bigger gauges being very lightweight. The striker fired design is something I am surprised to know. Thank you for sharing this great single shot shotgun. 👍🙂
They are a bear in 12ga for sure. The ejector is non-selective and has a decently stout spring. We greatly appreciate you watching these videos!
You're correct! What cha do is make sure the barrel is pointed straight down to the ground in the 6 o'clock position. Then break the barrel and the shell will go straight up in air so you can catch it on the way down. Be SURE you know how look cool afterwards.
Good informational video.
I just picked up a model 37 red letter 410 bore great shape, except for fore end shoe being broken.
So I'm on a mission now getting the shoe repaired or replaced.
Dropping it of to my Smith, hope he can work his magic.
I bought one that the foreend was held on with electrical tape. Bought the shoe online and easily replaced. These are fantastic shotguns.
Did Sears and Roebucks every private label sell the Model 37 ? I have a Ted Williams O/U in 12 gauge…pretty sure it’s a Winchester 101 in disguise.
The Model 37, not to my knowledge but they did provide the 37A to Sears. The Ted Williams 400 (sold by Sears) is basically a Winchester 101.
My favorite shotguns. I buy every one that I find. Pigtail refers to the first year breech lever, not the hammer. There were 3 or 4 different hammer designs (I’ve only seen/own three different ones). There’s also the v notch just behind the barrel on the receiver that you never hear mentioned, that did not appear on all of the guns.
I worked in retail sporting goods and retail hardware in Washington State in the early 1970’s and an edict came down that any un-serialized firearm was REQUIRED to have a serial number and to be recorded…out came the Dremel electric pencils for a few years. Certainly felt almost sacrilegious pulling the blued metal out of the wood and sloppily scribbling a number/letter combination on that particular firearm…ugh to bureaucrats.
Sounds like one could of just passed on the nonsense.
Up here in Canada our all time favourite single shot shotgun was the Cooey model 84. Could you do a video on the Cooey sometime please?
After Winchester acquired Cooey in 1961 they continued producing that shotgun as the Winchester/Cooey 84, then the Model 840, and then after 1968 it was sold as the Winchester Model 37A in the United States. Unfortunately each of those model changes involved reducing production cost and using less expensive materials in construction. We do not see many of the older Cooey guns here in Texas but we DO have a Model 37A. We will spin up a video on that one, stay tuned!
I like your show and benefit from the information. The set is so dark that I have difficulty seeing any detail of the firearms. Even with dim lighting, there are shadows and the firearm disappears into black shirt and black background. It's frustrating that I'm missing the visual part. The camera will likely focus better with better lighting.
Pieces of white paper on the table even 👍👍
When people are talking about a "pigtail" 37, they are referring to the release lever, not the hammer. The release lever on pigtail guns is a folded piece of steel that resembles a pig's tail instead of the solid lever like the one on this video. The first couple of years had a very skinny "hammer" that was somewhat difficult to cock/uncock so they made it a bit wider after the first few years and changed it several times over the years.
Dang...I commented before I saw the whole video...sorry!
Absolutely correct. I tried to correct that mistatement later in the video.
@@BTORange yeah....I jumped the gun!
My uncle has a pigtail
I have that gun. It belonged to my father. It has been in my family since the 1950s at least maybe longer. But it does not have that rubber butt stock peace. How much would it be worth? Do you know? I was told the National Guard gave them to men in the area at that time to protect the town. (Why I don't know.) It does not have the red line on it anymore. I was told it did have it back in the day.
I have a model 370A winchester 4-10 single shot shotgun and I need a forend for it. Would love to hear from you.
@@ronlasley7802 unfortunately there's no good steady source for complete Forend assemblies. Your best bet will probably be eBay
Still have my dad's Mod 37 12g. I'll never sell it. Style wise that shotgun looks the same as my dad's 12g. I know for sure that his is early forties.
I have a red letter 410 all original but it's nickel plated is that something that Winchester did
I have a Winchester model 37 Red letter, it's not hammering correctly and the ejection lever is sticking, how can I fix this?
Your best bet would be to take it to a reputable gunsmith in your area.
@@BTORangethanks for the recommendation, the closest one is over 2 hours away.
New springs. Thorough cleaning.
All I ever saw growing up were the Savage/Stevens, H&R, and New England Firearms. I guess back then everyone in my town were too poor for a Winchester.
I have one and it only says choke on it.
There was 36 comments. THAT WAS JUST WRONG so,.........37th!
Owner, passed to my daughter, 4th generation.
I wonder how much more it would've cost to have the 37's be hammerless with a safety like the Savage 220? IMO, that would be superior to the "semi-hammerless" design.
It certainly would have reduced confusion, that's for sure.
انا من لعراق اقتنيت واحده ورثتها من جدي وهي أعظم بندقيه في العالم وليس لها مثيل
Nice and reliable guns till the hammer spring/hammer metal wears. I love em but watch out for wear/light primer strikes
Love this series btw, these older hunting guns are really something special.
Thank you! We really appreciate it.
@@BTORangekeep em rolling out and I'll keep watching, there's a lot of gun nuts who love the older stuff, but don't know much about it. Keep the old gun reviews rolling man! Cheers!