1st Would like to say thank you for taking the time to talk about the history of all the guns you have done and are going to do. I'm always interested in learning the history of the different information. The history helps me become more educated and responsible gun owner. Always impressed with your presentation. I inherited a collection from my grandfather who just passed away. This is one of the Winchester's that I have model 94 in 30-30 I believe 1948. I would like you to do one on a winchester model 70 300 magnum pre 64.
We are planning a video on the pre-64 Model 70 and would undoubtedly discuss the .300 Magnums it was chambered in. The .300 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1963 so there are very few pre-64 rifles in that caliber, but .300 H&H was also chambered. We'll see what we can find.
The pre64 in 300 win mag was made only one year in 1963. My father sold his pre64 in 308 and got the 300 win mag and hunted with it 20+ years until I bought him a deluxe mark 5 Weatherby that he always wanted. That 300 win mag and that 308 pre64’s are the only 2 guns I wish I had back, bring a 60+ year gun collector and having owned hundreds of guns but those 2 rifles had lots of memories with them that other guns just don’t have😢
@@edwardabrams4972 thank you for info the one I inherited has been only shot I think less than 20 times my grandfather bought it when he left the military shot 1 deer and put it in the closet. I'm looking forward to getting to use it. But want to keep that original condition
My Model 94 30-30 is also a 1942 based on the SN and has the same features as the gun you had in front of you. My Grandfather gave it to be in the late 70's. The only issue with it is the rear stock was cracked and was repaired. I never had an issue with the gun and shot my first deer with it.
Love these videos. Really appreciate that you keep putting them out so often. As an avid 1100 collector that video was my favorite for sure. I’ve always wanted a Remington model 31, any chance you could cover that model? Thank you from Wisconsin!
The Model 31 was a competitor to the Winchester Model 12 and ran from 1931 to 1949, replaced by the Model 870. If we can come up with a representative example, we certainly will.
I loaned Andy my 31 for this very reason. Expect his excellent lecture shortly on this sweet little gun, a 20 ga. aluminum receiver model. Not representative of most 31's, but interesting nonetheless.
I have a 1942 as per polishing room records it has funky sling mounts could this be one sent to railway yards/ chemical companies etc and. Certain states purchased ?
I have a Win 1895 with a 40XX s/n. By all records it's a '97 manufacture but has all the features of earlier production. How can I definitively/approximate a real date?
These days its all about the Polishing Room Records which indeed would be 1897. Winchester did not throw away parts when a design change occurred nor was any real attempt made to assemble guns in serial number order. It is entirely possible that for a few months after a design or feature change a rifle would be assembled using parts still on hand. It would be helpful to get a Cody letter which may have specifics about barrel length, etc, and any special order features.
I'm curious you said 1942,when 1941 to 1945 is lumped in war period when Winchester assembled guns in between war production. I have one that is considered a war production gun,but it has a 1941 dated barrel.
Winchester suspended production of the Model 94 in August 1942 and resumed production in September of 1945. The Polishing Room records are complete through the 1940's whereas the warehouse ledgers are not. This is one of the big differences between the polishing room records and the warehouse ledgers. If your serial number is correct for 1941 in the PR records and has a 41 dated barrel, pretty safe bet its a 1941 gun.
@@BTORange ok from 1941 to 1945 there is no direct serial number to month of manufacture,even though my barrel is 1941. That is from Winchester website. Winchesters were assembled in between government production orders. Next only Canada has ever bought Winchester rifles, and the guy on forgotten weapons has researched this. They are marked cp on the butt stock.
Hey you make very informative content and you were kind enough to respond to one of my comments on another video but I was wondering I have a 94 30-30 made in may of 64 but it has a mixture of parts of pre and post and I haven’t been able to find much information about it do you think it would add value being that it was made in 1964 and has a mixture of parts from the factory???? Let me know what you think I appreciate your knowledge and thoughts
It would be very difficult to combine pre- and post-64 parts in the Model 94. Even many of the screws are different. This is one of those instances where features would define pre or post 64 as well as polishing room vs warehouse ledgers.
No, the screws definitely look post 64 but the butt plate the hood by the site, the actual site and the hammer strikes me as pre-last four of the serial number or 4550 Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate it. You seem very knowledgeable. I called Winchester all they could tell me is that it was made in 1964, but I I believe it was made in the early part of 1964 and they used up the rest of the parts. I don’t think I have the holy Grail of model 94s or anything but I do think I have a very interesting rifle.
@@505bandit If you want to send clear photos of the underside of the receiver with the S/N and the front portion of the link as well as clear photos of both sides of the receiver and the hammer spur we'd be glad to look at it. INFO@BTO-RANGE.COM
Canada bought 1892's and stamped cp on the butt stock around ww1,2 thousand wear purchased. When they got Enfields those 92s were dispersed and 1 atleast made it to Texas.
Model 1892's and 1894's were purchased by the Commonwealth during WW1. There were around 5000 Model 1894's purchased through Shapleigh Hardware for eventual distribution to the Royal Navy (among others). The rifles were inspected by Canadian inspectors which is why they have the DCP stamp. Considerably more Model 1892's in .44WCF were purchased on contract from Winchester, somewhere around 12,000.
1st Would like to say thank you for taking the time to talk about the history of all the guns you have done and are going to do. I'm always interested in learning the history of the different information. The history helps me become more educated and responsible gun owner. Always impressed with your presentation. I inherited a collection from my grandfather who just passed away. This is one of the Winchester's that I have model 94 in 30-30 I believe 1948. I would like you to do one on a winchester model 70 300 magnum pre 64.
We are planning a video on the pre-64 Model 70 and would undoubtedly discuss the .300 Magnums it was chambered in. The .300 Winchester Magnum was introduced in 1963 so there are very few pre-64 rifles in that caliber, but .300 H&H was also chambered. We'll see what we can find.
The pre64 in 300 win mag was made only one year in 1963. My father sold his pre64 in 308 and got the 300 win mag and hunted with it 20+ years until I bought him a deluxe mark 5 Weatherby that he always wanted. That 300 win mag and that 308 pre64’s are the only 2 guns I wish I had back, bring a 60+ year gun collector and having owned hundreds of guns but those 2 rifles had lots of memories with them that other guns just don’t have😢
@@edwardabrams4972 thank you for info the one I inherited has been only shot I think less than 20 times my grandfather bought it when he left the military shot 1 deer and put it in the closet. I'm looking forward to getting to use it. But want to keep that original condition
Thank you again for the history lesson on a historic Winchester rifle.👍
Love the classics!
I have a 1949 in .32 WinSpl. Inherited from my step father. A Winchester model 94 just feels great in your hands.
Like a 1911 no ?
@@Jasonwcf absolutely 💯 agree
My Model 94 30-30 is also a 1942 based on the SN and has the same features as the gun you had in front of you. My Grandfather gave it to be in the late 70's. The only issue with it is the rear stock was cracked and was repaired. I never had an issue with the gun and shot my first deer with it.
Outstanding video!
Great video of a great gun , well done !
How about one on the Winchester model 71 ???
Love these old Winchesters. My favorite was the 1886 45-70. I have a circa 1889 all original. It will never leave the family.
Very informative. Thank you for your thoroughness.
Good video ,,,, how about one on the model 64
Love these videos. Really appreciate that you keep putting them out so often. As an avid 1100 collector that video was my favorite for sure. I’ve always wanted a Remington model 31, any chance you could cover that model? Thank you from Wisconsin!
The Model 31 was a competitor to the Winchester Model 12 and ran from 1931 to 1949, replaced by the Model 870. If we can come up with a representative example, we certainly will.
I loaned Andy my 31 for this very reason. Expect his excellent lecture shortly on this sweet little gun, a 20 ga. aluminum receiver model. Not representative of most 31's, but interesting nonetheless.
I have a 1942 as per polishing room records it has funky sling mounts could this be one sent to railway yards/ chemical companies etc and. Certain states purchased ?
If it is the "Fish-hook" style sling mounts those were used by and available from Winchester for many years, even after 1964.
I have a Win 1895 with a 40XX s/n. By all records it's a '97 manufacture but has all the features of earlier production. How can I definitively/approximate a real date?
These days its all about the Polishing Room Records which indeed would be 1897. Winchester did not throw away parts when a design change occurred nor was any real attempt made to assemble guns in serial number order. It is entirely possible that for a few months after a design or feature change a rifle would be assembled using parts still on hand. It would be helpful to get a Cody letter which may have specifics about barrel length, etc, and any special order features.
@@BTORange Thanks, I was thinking about doing that.
I'm curious you said 1942,when 1941 to 1945 is lumped in war period when Winchester assembled guns in between war production. I have one that is considered a war production gun,but it has a 1941 dated barrel.
Winchester suspended production of the Model 94 in August 1942 and resumed production in September of 1945. The Polishing Room records are complete through the 1940's whereas the warehouse ledgers are not. This is one of the big differences between the polishing room records and the warehouse ledgers. If your serial number is correct for 1941 in the PR records and has a 41 dated barrel, pretty safe bet its a 1941 gun.
@@BTORange ok from 1941 to 1945 there is no direct serial number to month of manufacture,even though my barrel is 1941. That is from Winchester website. Winchesters were assembled in between government production orders. Next only Canada has ever bought Winchester rifles, and the guy on forgotten weapons has researched this. They are marked cp on the butt stock.
Hey you make very informative content and you were kind enough to respond to one of my comments on another video but I was wondering I have a 94 30-30 made in may of 64 but it has a mixture of parts of pre and post and I haven’t been able to find much information about it do you think it would add value being that it was made in 1964 and has a mixture of parts from the factory???? Let me know what you think I appreciate your knowledge and thoughts
It would be very difficult to combine pre- and post-64 parts in the Model 94. Even many of the screws are different. This is one of those instances where features would define pre or post 64 as well as polishing room vs warehouse ledgers.
No, the screws definitely look post 64 but the butt plate the hood by the site, the actual site and the hammer strikes me as pre-last four of the serial number or 4550 Thank you for your feedback. I really appreciate it. You seem very knowledgeable. I called Winchester all they could tell me is that it was made in 1964, but I I believe it was made in the early part of 1964 and they used up the rest of the parts. I don’t think I have the holy Grail of model 94s or anything but I do think I have a very interesting rifle.
@@505bandit If you want to send clear photos of the underside of the receiver with the S/N and the front portion of the link as well as clear photos of both sides of the receiver and the hammer spur we'd be glad to look at it. INFO@BTO-RANGE.COM
Canada bought 1892's and stamped cp on the butt stock around ww1,2 thousand wear purchased. When they got Enfields those 92s were dispersed and 1 atleast made it to Texas.
Model 1892's and 1894's were purchased by the Commonwealth during WW1. There were around 5000 Model 1894's purchased through Shapleigh Hardware for eventual distribution to the Royal Navy (among others). The rifles were inspected by Canadian inspectors which is why they have the DCP stamp. Considerably more Model 1892's in .44WCF were purchased on contract from Winchester, somewhere around 12,000.
I was thinking my 94 was February 42 sn 1322xxx