Game of Thrones - Arranged Marriage(s)
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- Tywin Lannister plots to out-plot the Tyrells by marrying off Cersei and Tyrion to Loras Tyrell and Sansa Stark. Cersei changes from extreme smugness to despair so fast she suffers whiplash.
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Tywin: "Tyrion will do as he bids"
Cersei: *Laughs*
Tywin: *NEW TARGET ACQUIRED*
😂😂😂😂
Underrated.
😂❤
Good one😂
She really thought she ATE when she said "you should be thanking the God's this is more than you deserve"
Tywin: and I took that personally
I love how she goes from “I am Queen Regent!” to “Father don’t make me do it again, please” in the span of 10 seconds. Everyone in Tywin’s presence crumbles under his aura of absolute authority. Charles Dance was incredible in this role.
The only one who keeps some semblance is tyrion. The only redeeming quality
he’s one of the best working actors imo
@@sinwithagrin4243 Don't forget Oberyn
she defied him all the same, dont you remember?
@@Phatnaru0002 and the hound......and Arya......and cersei.....and jamie.....and tormund......and Brienne......and ygritte......and Jeor Mormant........and Samwell.......and Ser Allister.......and Olenna......and littlefinger......and Varys (until they butchered everything about him, but yea that casting was on point......and tyrion (even though it was kinda by defaul).....and Grand Maester Pycelle......and Roose Bolton (nailed that shit.).......and Theon (same as Roose)......and Qyburn.......and the Greatjon (how the fuck did they mess him up in the end?)......and Lysa......and Stannis.....and melisandre......and catelyn......and a shit load more
Seems there may be a pattern developing lol
Cersei: "You should be thanking the gods for this, this is more than you deserve."
Twyin: YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD! ARRANGED WEDDING!!!
BEST COMMENT EVER!
:D
jkrfan7 is it bad that I read the second part with Zero's voice from Borderlands 2?
jkrfan7 What cersei said really pissed me off. More than he deserves? The guy saved her was during the battle of the blackwater despite her and her stupid son constantly plotting against him and trying to kill him.
There should be fanart of Tywin battling other GOT characters in a game of YuGiOh, with all of the ham included.
Game of thrones and Yu gi oh
Excellent
I love how Cersei is the queen and practically one of the most powerful people in the seven kingdom, but when Tywin is in the room, she's just a frightened little girl who obey her father.
She is queen regeant, not Queen
Everyone's a frightened little girl when Tywin is around, even the men.
@@aceclover758 Perhaps you haven't read the books and doesn't understand what does that mean exactly.
Queen Regent has much more power than the Queen. Whatever holds the regency is the most powerful person in the Kingdom as it rules in the King's name until the King reaches adulthood.
@Someguy136 Perhaps in the Middle Ages, definitely not today.
@@Argumemnon Yes.
He is one of the greatest villains I've ever seen.
If he was a real person, people would love him for being such a ruthless, brilliant, bastard.
“Put an end to the disgusting rumors about you” doesn’t even mention Jaime. Lmao Jaime had a free pass for everything w this guy
Because Jamie was the perfect child. Tall, handsome, male, great warrior everything Tywin could ask for. His only issue was he was a kings guard thus could never be heir.
@@calikid05 he was perfect as a military commander and warrior when he had his hand. If he had Tywin political cunning , that there you have the perfect Lannister
I saw it more like he wouldn’t even entertain it that he only mentioned her. Plus to force her to make amends.
@@calikid05 Not quite though. Tywin put his foot in Jamies ass in the first few episodes. He felt he wasnt living up to his full potential.
@@mr.raslyon6626 And that had largely to do with Jaime chosing to be a Kingsguard rather than be heir to the Lannister family. Had Jaime stayed as heir and done what Tywin saw as his duty to the family then Tywin would have been very happy with him, he would be an excellent heir even if he wasn't as brilliant as Tywin himself.
I love how Cersei is so bitchily smug at Tyrion's forced marriage until Daddy knocks her down a peg. This is such a great scene, I adore Tywin. He's my favorite character on the show.
"My Children. You disgraced the Lannister name for far too long." God I wish he could put an end to that disgusting incest....
He also specifically waited to tell her about her impending marriage until after she gloated over Tyrion. Almost like he wanted her to show off how casually cruel she is.
That's cruel - even for you!
The fact she believed she was only there to be smug at Tyrion is kinda hilarious, when Tywin does one better and says she'll be required to do the exact same thing as him.
She thinks she knows her father so well, but completely disregards the fact that her father wouldn’t let her be apart of meetings just so she can mock others.
@@jamaljames9331 Imagine if Tyrion is a normal man,then he will be the perfect successor of Tywin by right and by personality.
Jaime is a king’s-guard and not as smart&cunning,Cersei is dumb af while being a woman means no right already in Westeros.
Tyrion is the mix of Tywin and Ned,a cunning politician with a sense of honor.
“My children..” the disdain in his voice. God he’s good
Charles Dance is a damn genius
Ive felt the disappointment 😭
@@1Phase1Gods , I was strong then.
“You’re my daughter”
Tywin said calmly
CERSEI!DIDYOUSLEEPWITHYOURTWINBROTHER?????
“My children…”, how he says that with such disappointment. Tywin is a truly fascinating character, so strong and sad.
Logan Roy 1.0.
Such utter contempt.
Tywin wanted his children to do as he wanted but he never wanted to admit that Cersei and Jaime shagged each other right before his nose. Then he ended up killed by his own son Tyrion after doing him so much harm. He was powerful yes, but he was still full of what makes the grass green.
So tyrannical...
@@PhebusdesToursChlorophyll?
'You will marry Podrick.'
'Thank you, father!'
😍
Poor Pod
You will marry the stable boy. You're a brood mare, you should breed.
You have to credit Tyrion for his genuine empathy towards Sansa. Tyrion knew that Sansa earlier lived in a fairy tale fantasy world of princes and princesses. He knew she needed to grow out it, but he also knew it was hard to think of anything crueler to her than to chain her to a Dwarf, and a member of the family that had decimated hers. Tyrion had no issue with paying whores to bed him, but had no delusions about what the prospect would do to Sansa.
Also credit Dinklage for the acting job, once it sinks in what exactly Tywin has in mind.
SuperDave17 Well, he was usually annoyed by Sansa in the books.
@@subutaynoyan5372 But he still respected and acknowledged the damage his family had done to her.
Actually in the book he almost consummated the marriage.
I pray your grandchild will be born without the head cap and weak lungs 🙏🏻
Molasor Rosalom yes, reading the book after watching the show changed my opinion of Tyrion big time
Lena Hedley amazing acting. She almost reverts to a frightened young girl at the thought of being married off once again.
And how is that amazing? She did what the script and director said.
@@stomp21 Really? Have you read the script?
@@stomp21 Mm yeah? He was praising her acting abilities. Another actress could also be handed some instructions and a script. The results are not always convincing you know.
“Father don’t make me do it again, please…”
@@stomp21 It would be interesting to see you try and deliver a convincing result
Charles Dance simply being great. His performance as Tywin was outstanding! I honestly believe he was the only one who actually knew how to play the Game of Thrones. A truly amazing character.
I'm still amazed by the scene where he actually skins a deer on camera
Tyrion did between season 1-3 then he got proper nerfed.
He knew how to play The Game of Thrones, but not the game of life. And that is why he died
If he was still around after Season 4, I’m sure D&D would’ve butchered his character too. Every single character that’s supposed to be intelligent is turned stupid in order to drive the plot
He and Olenna tyrell
Thing is... Tyrion was a good husband to Sansa.... and considering that a girl of Sansa's status doesn't get a choice in who she marries, Tyrion would've been the best husband she could hope for
Now that Ramsay is dead, it's possible that Sansa and Tyrion will still end up together.
Jon-Michael Harris Garlan the Gallant have said so.
She was hoping to marry Mylas Tyrell(or whatever his name, I don't exactly remember), but Loras' elder brother have told her that Tyrion would be the best husband she could hooe for, if only she gives a chance
You must be forgetting that it is not just women who dont get a choice in who they marry.
Disagree completely. I hate when people act like Sansa should be grateful for being with Tyrion. Most other girls have their marriages arranged by their fathers and they don’t have much say but they have the advantage that their father would usually find a decent man for her. She would trust her fathers judgement. Sansa didn’t have that because the marriage was arranged by Tywin, the man her brother was actively fighting against. People forget that Sansa isn’t all knowing like us, she doesn’t know Tyrion as a person and his motives. She was forced into a marriage by her enemy and married to her enemy. Tyrion was also fighting against her brother, he fought in a battle against her brothers men and for a full season fought to keep Joffrey in power. He only once helped by stopping Sansas abuse in the throne room but Sansa could have just seen that as a way to keep Joffrey in check. She couldn’t know whether Tyrion was looking out for her or just keeping Joffrey in line. He never does anything else to help her that she sees. He checks if she’s okay after the riot but he didn’t save her. Sansa wouldn’t see that as a kindness but just a formality. We know Tyrion and we like Tyrion but Sansa doesn’t and people gotta remember that. They whitewashed Tyrion in the show but the real Tyrion is very dark and says some disturbing stuff to Sansa. I’m not a Sansan shipper but honestly the way Tyrion turns out so far in the books I think Sansa would be better off marrying The Hound. Willas Tyrell would have been good even though Sansa was being used as a pawn she probably would have had a easy life, I’d say there’s a good few of the northern lords or their sons who would have treated her kindly too.
Not a good choice for smash tho
3:29 Tyrion-"I'll get the crossbow." Cersei-"I'll bring a large heavy bag."
viewernewest lol
Cersei: "I'll bring the Wildfire."
If they actually liked each other the Lannister siblings could have easily overthrown that horses ass Tywin
"It is past time you were wed."
"I was wed."
Dinklage delivers this line with such intensity, you really feel that wound of his first "marriage" will never truly heal
I cannot wait to read "Winds of Winter", where George RR Martin stated that Tyrion will find out "where whores go"...
That is, if he can finish the freaking book in this lifetime...😅
@@AnnaJo2000imagine if he finds out Tywin just killed her and burnt her body
@@tacoblude8208 Oh gosh, Tyrion would either be shattered or completely justified killing Tywin.
@@AnnaJo2000 GRRM is busy getting his knob slobbed.
Cersei’s last attempt at manipulation is to change her voice to that reminiscent of a soft spoken young girl and she begs Tywin “please father don’t make me do it again”. I love that part of this scene because it shows you the deep seeded ptsd Tywins kids still harbor from their childhood from being controlled by him for so long
I don't even know if that's an intentional manipulation on Cersei's part. She may just be mentally reverting to a childlike state after that. As you said, deep seated PTSD from childhood.
That might well be genuine. Cersei's arranged marriage to Robert was miserable.
Is it PTSD, or is it a crutch that has always work to get her way in the past.
@@nunya3163 She never really got her way though.
Arranged marriage is expected with lords and ladies. She didnt like Robert sure and will not like the effeminate Loras sure but she's really just a weirdo who wants to stay single and continue a taboo incest relationship.
Just imagine how unstoppable the Lannisters would be if Tywin actually respected and loved Tyrion. Their combined minds would easily conquer.
I think if Tyrion wasnt a dwarf and didnt kill his mother during birth. He definitely wouldve bean the son tywin wanted
@@casper6405
I really don't think so. Tywin does not appreciate any of his children, no matter who they are or what they do. He treats them all with despite, like they are inferior and only inconvenient chess pieces he has to deal with.
@@gatinha1809 Yeah, Tyrion pretty much throws that at him, and the only thing Tywin ever did that was purely to further the Lannister's goals and not coincidentally his own aswell, was him not murdering Tyrion immediately after birth.
he didn’t kill his mother, she died for him
@@johnnyboy3410that’s not how Tywin and Cersei see it
Ahh.. the good old days of great writing, casting, and acting. We'll always have those memories
Erases season 8 from memory....
@@yatesy117 I never watched season 8 and I'm still disappointed it happened
And the 7
@@-HenryPurcell And the 6 and the 5.
@@ruthenius682 no
Understated best part of this scene: Even after Cersei laughed at Tyrion's situation, he didn't laugh at hers. When Tywin revealed his plans for Cersei, Tyrion looked at her with concern. They never got along and she was always horrible to him, but he still cared for her and knew how traumatized she had been in her first arranged marriage. Such phenomenal acting by all three in this scene.
Maybe he looked at her with concern because he thought of the poor Loras
In the books he was internally laughing when tywin said that to cercei 😂
@@rodriguezjavier6726Tyrion is much more of a dick in the books from what I understand.
@@thomasraines1396Yeah in the books he's a bitter little cunt 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Understandable though as for all his life he's been mocked and ridiculed for being a dwarf and blamed for killing his mother. He still has a sense of humour but he's much more vicious and bitter in the books especially after killing Shae and Tywin
In the books Tyrion is much more…I won’t say evil, that’s too extreme, instead I’ll say “conflictive”
The show changes him into more of a morally likable character.
Anybody else giggling like mad at how quickly that smug look falls off of Cersei's face? I've watched this about 10 times and laugh like a lunatic every time.
Charles Dance = THE MAN.
Oh yes. Gotta love how Tywin puts her in her place and reminds her she answers to him as head of the family.
Everything she’s ever done has backfired hilariously
Wooops someone spoke to soon before she had to marry
Too bad marrying Loras never happened. At the same time I'm disappointed and glad but I wanted to see what happen if they did get marry. She would probably kill the unborn child inside her before he or she comes out and she’d take away High Garden from him and the family or burn it. She is a cruel bitch but not the only one in the show. Lol
@@Lite727 Save the Sept. But that was a different sort of fire
Tywin says at the beginning that their business here includes Cersei too, but shes so busy reveling in Tyrion's misery that she doesn't even question what her role is. Truly captures how short-sighted she is.
That's a really good point!
The way he says You're late, already makes it a great scene. The fact that Tywin, Jaime, Cercei and Tyrion never share a scene together, is one of my biggest show regrets.
they did share at least one scene. when joffrey was killed. th-cam.com/video/MbMFLDb3CbI/w-d-xo.html
@@tookiezzz2898 and when there was the judgment of Tyrion
In a way it's highly fitting --- the Lannister family is never truly united.
You're*
They all were present in oberyn's trial fight and in tyrion's trial.
Tywin: "Tyrion will do as he's bid. As will you."
Cercei: "What do you mean?"
Tywin: "You will marry the Night King."
Cercei: "I will not."
Tywin: "The Night King is heir to the North beyond the wall. Tyrion will secure the North and you will secure beyond that."
Cercei: "No, I won't do it."
Tywin: "Yes you will. You're still fertile. You need to marry again and breed more White Walkers."
DrRockso1987 fuckung epic😂😂😂😂
DrRockso1987 I wouldn't put it past Tywin to have cersei married to the night king to form an alliance between the lannsiters and the white walkers
Night King: "Hell No!"
She's too cold even for the Night King.
I swear to god if he was still alive I could see that happening hahaha
The way Charles dance delivers
"My children..." With such disdain is just 👌👌
Pure contempt.
Laughing at how Tywin shouts Cersei down but not Tyrion. He acknowledges Tyrion's concerns and in a twisted, Lannister way, kind of respects that Tyrion has them. On the other hand (not pun intended) he knows that Cersei is just whining for the sake of it
I think in a way he IS thinking about his kids too. Cersei needs to be married off politically, otherwise, she's useless to the family if not an outright liability with her scheming, but since she obviously doesn't like the idea, Sir Loras is a good fit since both will just have to get through the bedding on the wedding night and then neither has to touch each other again, which both will be fine with.
Likewise with Tyrion, he's getting his son a pretty wife who's intelligent and emphatic, just like him. Furthermore, she'll be heir to the north once Rob's been dealt with. Tyrion would be hard-pressed to get a marriage that good if he wasn't a dwarf, being the second son.
And here's why I think Tywin is partly doing this for his children's sake. If he just wanted to ruin the Tyrell plot, he would just have to marry one of them, not both. He could be using Cersei to secure another alliance.
He's always, not nice, but less cruel to Tyrion than he is to everyone else.
Listens to him, gives him important jobs and talks strategy with him.
@@tsgod6584 he’s only not cruel to Tyrion when he needs him. He continually screws him over until Tyrion can’t stand it and kills him. Besides Cersei Tywin was probably the most cruel to Tyrion, so I really don’t know what you’re talking about.
By this point Tywin patience for Cersei was wearing thin. Her plots had done more damage to the Lannisters then Rob did.
Damn sometimes it is easy to forget how f-ing good this show was when it was firing on all cylinders back then.
How it should have gone:
Tywin: "You're my daughter!"
Tyrion: "Any man who must say 'you're my daughter' is no true father."
Tywin: "Wait what?"
Tyrion: "The hand of the king is tired, see him to his chambers."
Tywin: "I'm not tired!"
💀💀💀💀
Lmfaoooo that’s hilarious but I think Tywin would have turned Tyrion into Reek if he spoke to him like that 😂
@@WayneMercy It would totally be worth it just to see his reaction though.
If only!
Fuck that took me out bruh
I love how Tywin let Cersei gloat over Tyrion before announcing his plans for her. He was cruel but damn did he nail the comedic timing here.
3:16 That line is played so well, you can feel sorry for Cersei even after her constant smirk.
Lol I don't
Despite her being so vile and malicious, at the end of the day, she's still a victim to the patriarchal feudal system. Hurt people hurt people.
@@Petey0707 I agree. My step-mom was forced to rush her first marriage with no ceremony. When she divorced and started seeing my Dad, the death of my mom and the ensuing custody battle with his family forced her into a quick county clerk marriage again. Then she physically and emotionally abused my sister and I for the next 7 years. So I totally get it. True story BTW.
He’s met / interacted with all the other Starks besides her, Ned and Rickon, he evens meets Benjen and throw some shade at Theon
@@Petey0707 "patRiaRHAl fEudAL syStem" shut yo ranky ranky doodle fuck ass up it's just Tywin being the master manipulator. He literally arranged a marriage for Tyrion in the same scene. Was that matriarchy then since Tyrion was a man? No, its monarchy. Tywin is King (Lord) of Casterly Rock, and his children are his subjects
Love how Cersei’s was teasing Tyrion but her face fell when Daddy told her she was getting married too! 😂😂😂
3:04
The only time Tywin raises his voice.
Boys the chill. Imposing as fuck.
GG Charles Dance, you're great.
And "THEY HAVE MY SON!"
Interestingly he doesn't raise his voice like this in the book. Just calmly states it and that's enough to cow Cersei.
@@every116 "You will if you wish to have any voice in the choice of your next husband," Lord Tywin said calmly.
Ah, yes, another "said calmly" situation...
@@every116 really? What page so I can read it?
@@MrKingtyrant05 Page number is pretty useless since different editions have different page numbers, but it occurs in A Storm of Swords, Tyrion III. It will be about a quarter way through the book.
It's amazing how Twyin can see 3 steps ahead. He's already written off all the other stark children as heirs to the north, and landed on Sansa as the eventual heir with the knowledge available to him. He was truly one of the best players in the game of thrones.
It's experience. Working for the Mad King probably made that type of thinking necessary.
I'd kill for a scene with him and Roose Bolton together. And Rasmey slapping around Joffrey.
"You like to play games, little man?"
"I am... the KING!"
**slap**
"Wed her, bed her, put a child in her."
What a charmer that Tywin. No wonder the only person willing to marry him was his cousin.
Likely by force
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 You clearly haven’t read the books. Considering that in the books it’s stated that: Joanna's marriage to Tywin was reportedly a happy one, and she became Tywin's trusted counselor and companion. Her influence on her husband was such that people say that Tywin ruled the Seven Kingdoms as Hand, "but was ruled at home by his lady wife.” She’s also the only person that is said to have ever gotten him to actually smile.
“No wonder the only person willing to marry him was his cousin.”
Where in the books is Joanna being the “only” one willing to marry Tywin ever stated or even insinuated? Or did you just assume that?
He was a lot happier person when she was alive.
Tyrion, saying how cruel it is to marry Sansa to himself, shows his self-awareness. While he was her best husband, and would treat her very well, he knows that she would be known as the bride of The Imp and would be degrading to her.
I think it's more about the fact that he's part of the family that murdered her family.
More to the point, Sansa fantasized about being married to a handsome knight and Tyrion knew it. She'd already had so much taken away from her.
Tywin is probably my favorite character on the show.
One of the very, very few cases where the show version of the character is superior to the book version. And that's solely due to Charles Dance's amazing performance.
Charles Dance is an amazing character and portrays Tywin so well but I think it’s a little twisted to say Tywin is your favourite character. He’s a very evil guy who has arguably done worse things then Joffrey but people seem to forget about his past. He sent out The Mountain to rape and murder throughout the riverlands not attacking soldiers but innocent people. He sent the mountain to kill Elia martell and her children. He might not have ordered Gregor to do what he did but Tywin was fully aware what Gregor would likely do. He’s smart and Gregor isn’t a monster in disguise. Twyin murdered an entire family when they rose up against him. It would be like if Tywin wound you the starks and drowned them all in a cave. Do Sansa, Arya, bran or Rickon deserve to die if the adult members of their family disobeyed another lord? No but that’s how brutal Tywin is. Ned would never do that.
@@EmBlanca just cause somebody says their favorite character is x it doesn't necessarily mean they want to embody that character. Tywin was a character that was developed well in both book and show but in different subtle ways, and Charles Dance was one of the best actors on the show. Tywin was featured in plenty of scenes before being killed off in an awesome fashion before the show started circling down the drain. He was simply a deep and entertaining character
@@EmBlanca my favorite character in Batman is Joker. That doesn't mean I idolize him or want to be like him. It means I appreciate the writing and the performance by Heath Leger as well as his role in the story.
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 yes bc the show completely rewrote twin's character and his role in the narrative 😭 tywin is only important in relation to his children and how much he failed all 3 of them. he's not even an effective war strategist. he lost every battle he manned to a 15 year old boy and had to violate the guest right oath and make that boy a martyr to win the war. there's a reason tywin's children are destroying his legacy whilst the stark's and the north preserves ned's
How can you not love Tywin
For everything he did... well, I can say I "love to hate" him, so there's that
Being his child is a good way of not loving him
By being his blood relative. Or by having something he wants
The funny thing is: besides Kevan, even his whole family have problems liking Tywin. Most people just feared him and just a few admired him (Pycelle, Kevan, Tyrion to some extend). It goes to the point that no one on King's Landing atended to his funeral because the smallfolk still remembered the Lannister attack during the Rebellion. The moral of the history is that ruling bye fear ultimately achieves nothing but ephemeral peace. Meanwhile, Ned Stark ruled fair and wisely, and almost ALL of the northen houses are willing to risk everything to protect his children even after losing the war.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 , для управления таким государством как Вестерос(также как и любым другим Средневековым государством) не нужна любовь народа. Почитайте "Государя" Макиавелли, там про это хорошо написано, а Тайвин в достаточной мере списан именно с него. Тайвину плевать на то, придёт кто-то на его похороны или нет, плевать любят его или нет. Льва не интересует мнение овец. Он правит, его уважают и бояться. И он мог удерживать Вестерос от разрушения при Эйрисе, а потом и при своих внуках. Семь королевств объеденились в страхе перед Тайвином Ланнистером. Да, он жесток, но его мотивация понятна - он человек власти. Король без короны. И его уважают, и бьются за него.
The look in Lena Headley's face when Tywin starts yelling is SUCH A GOOD representation of a person having a trauma response. The blank, wide-eyed stare into the middle distance, the lowered gaze, the quiet voice. What a fantastic actress she is.
I have no idea how most commenters watch this show and say 'epic boss Tywin really put her in her place'
Based on "you're my daughter" and "they have my son", Tywin only yells when stating the location or general existence of one of his children. Other top hits (probably) include:
"My son is in the privy!"
"My daughter is over there!"
"My grandson has been sent to bed!"
"We've Won!"
@@ad-dk3md Tywin only cares about this family. This proves it.
A lannister really can roar
the voice crack at 3:16 ... lena headey is a magnificant actress
jayscott1065 4:16 you dumb fuck
What are you both even talking about?
SimplyHealLogical I'M talking about when Cersei says "father don't make me do this again" ... fuck knows what he's on about
jayscott1065 but that’s not a crack in her voice. A crack in ones voice is when they go “f(aaauuuhhhh)ather don’t make me do this again”. Forgive me, I can’t explain sounds on text. 😅
@@jayscott-yz3wx She's got a nice set of cans too. A shame they used a body double during her naked walk.
Tyrion: “Missing some of Loras’s favorite bits, but I’m sure they’ll make do.”
Me: 😂😂😂
Tywin: “Your jokes are not appreciated.”
Me: Hey c’mon, that was pretty good!
I didn’t understand that part.Can you explain?
@@Alekhine-lr9cp Loras is gay and Tyrion is pointing that out in his usual way so Tywin tells him that he’s not funny but I thought it was hilarious
Tywin seems pretty confident that Robb Stark won’t live to return to Winterfell. He must already be communicating with them Frey’s to arrange the Red Wedding.
Even if the Red Wedding didn’t happen, Robb was fighting a losing battle. He did well fighting against Tywin’s army, but had to use ambushes, hit and run tactics, etc. With the Karstarks gone, Robb had maybe 8,000-10,000 men left. The Tyrells were 50,000-60,000 strong(I think) and Tywin had around 60,000 as well. With the Reach, the men and horses were way better supplied than Robb could hope to be. Not to mention the Ironborn still were invading the North and Robb would have to deal with them in the miraculous event he somehow beat Tywin and the Tyrells. The Frey’s are one thing, but the Boltons didn’t want to be wiped out on the losing side.
@@splintercell320 they didn't have that many... After all... they fight several battles. Lannister already lost quarter their number when Jaime was captured. Then, they suffer other defeats and while they had a victory over Stannis... Soldiers die even in victories. Robb had 10K the Lannister 30 about. The deciding factor was the Tyrells.
@@splintercell320 the Tyrells wage war very passively, and for a good reason. They know not to send their men "over the top" into the meat grinder for pretty much no good reason.
@@splintercell320 Robb messed up when they declared him king in the north and he agreed and declared himself that. It isolated al potential allies as he would be king of the north and the river lands and it will no longer be part of the 7 kingdoms. He should have just allied with Stannis or renly. Just say he allied with renly originally renly still dies and Stannis takes his army. Robb than aliens with Stannis and his 35 k + men.
@@splintercell320 yeah the thing with robb killing one of the karstarks was a mistake he should have waited till after the war and killed him then but i guess that wouldnt be honorable or something to a stark
It's nice that Tyrion cares so much for Sansa. I hope he meets arya, that would be a fascinating meeting. Wonder how they'd react to each other
'Wheres the Imp?' That line wasn't for nothing, but I don't think they'll meet until Season 8
I don't think he's on her list so he's safe
well you never got your wish huh
@@cb-7422 Aged like milk
Rushed season , ain’t got time for that
2:35 Cersei going from smug to "wait, what?" will never get old lol
Tyrion bringing up Tysha coupled with that intense staredown between him and Tywin will forever be one of my favorite parts about this scene.
Excellently played by Charles Dance in particular. The look on his face and the way he says "only too well" is great acting.
Acting skills at its peak when you have Tywin, Tyrion and Cersei in one Room….. 💯 💯 💯
Charles Dance owns this scene...
Love how Cersei is like :
"More than you deserve"
Then Tywin tells her to Marry Sir Lorris and she's like:
Huh?😃
The casting is out of this world Everybody is perfect
Tywin: Alpha as fuck.
Tyrion: Low cunning.
Cersei: Not as smart.
Well, her flaws aside, she is one hell of a strong willed woman
Binoy Canilao Strong willed? She can stomach anything and can't handle being even slightly annoyed
@Floyd1504 Low cunning means being brilliant or clever but immoral or base.
Jamie: say something clever
@Horse Man single dad who had to literally rebuild his family's fortunes as a teen thanks to his actual POS dad, put down a rebellions from his own bannermen, fight a civil war against the mad king, and then balance all the politics to make sure that the kingdom was kept stable and the Baratheons & Starks didn't decide to gang up on the next biggest competitor, the Lannisters.
Tywin wasn't a POS except maybe to Tyrion, thanks to resentment from losing his wife. Guy was a hard man shaped by harder times, and tried to ensure that his children would be able to continue once he was gone
I love how cersei came from being happy to terrified
@Not Another Minute well at least loras' "noctural activites" will prevent him from raping her like robert did always look on the bright side of life as monty python says
That chair creak when Tyrion shifts his gaze to look at his father, that weight of the heaviness in the room that magnifies the silence - perfect scene
Perfect sound editing
Perfect camera positions
Perfect writing
Perfect acting
Perfect Scene
I've never seen anyone portraying a disappointed father so perfectly as Charles Dance when Tywin says "My children...".
Brian Cox in Succession was a worthy successor. Can see Logan Roy and Tywin Lannister sitting in a room together having kinship on how they are disappointed in their kids.
Tywin was such a powerful character. The realm suffered with him gone, though I do not blame Tyrion for killing him. Tyrion had just cause.
Tywin is my favourit character in the show, but of cause the realm suffered much more because he was alive ^^
who started the conflict? who burned villagers and farms? who educated cersei?
tywin is a perfect example for a stong, charismatic tyran. He will burn cities to the ground if it favous his goals without blink a eye!
Tyrion has the weirdest reaction to being told he'll marry a hot red-head who'll secure him 1/3 of the country as his own domain lol.
Shes 14, that’s why he reacted that way
3:32 Cersei found some solace in her shared predicament with Tyrion, even if it meant a forced marriage. It's a powerful scene that highlights the complexities of their family dynamics.
Charles Dance owned every scene he was in at all times and i loved every second of it
The most interesting part of this scene is that we see Tywin loves Cersei no more than Tyrion. The one thing Cersei has more than Tyrion that she’s not a dwarf,and because of that she’s a more valuable asset for Tywin.
He did love Cersei, but he was really disappointed by her mistakes as a Queen Regent, especially for raising Joffrey as stupid and spoiled brat, which went against his ideal of a Lannister king. After Tommen becomes king, he begins to realize that he needs to keep his younger grandchildren away from Cersei or they would be ruined as well.
This is how marriages are arranged, privately, you would not shame another house by publicly turning down a suitor.. like they did in House of the Dragon
Tywin: "You will wed her bed her and put a child in her, surely you’re capable of that" has to be one of his funniest lines
The sad thing about this is that this scene proves that Tyrion would have been a great husband for Sansa. The guy had integrity and empathy, more than the rest of his family, and I honestly think that given time, she'd have learnt maybe not to love him, but to accept him as a good husband who wasn't directly responsible for what happened to her family.
it is mentioned in the books that Sansa missed him after she left Kings Landing
But safety doesn't mean a good husband. So many things a girl dream of a handsome powerful man.
Well, hell yes, but we all know that the girls prefer Chad and Tyrone to that "decent fellow with a real job", do we not?
I think show Sansa would've grown to definitely respect and befriend him. They were already on that path until Robb and Cat died.
She was still a prisoner used like a brood mare. From her own perspective her marriage to Tyrion meant she was stuck in King's Landing with only enemies around her. Nobody would be happy with such a marriage, and Tyrion knows it.
Actually, in retrospect, having Sansa marry Tyrion was a really good decision. I actually cannot really think of a better husband.
He's a dwarf. Not the kind most girls dreamily think of.
@@galacticguardian2783 Yeah, but this is a basically medieval society we’re talking about, so Sansa’s wishes are not really on the Table.
But Tyrion is hands down the best possible husband.
@@galacticguardian2783 Far better than Joffrey and Ramsey. She probably thinks fondly of Tyrion now.
@@ConsiderTheCrows believe me. Irl most girls would go for Ramsey or Joeffrey anyway over Tyrion. Knowing full well what they are getting into
@@galacticguardian2783 Show Tyrion? I doubt that. He's charming, funny, and incredibly handsome. Women prefer wit and humor as it's a sign of intelligence. If you can't make a woman laugh, you ain't getting pussy.
"Stop that, your making me uncomfortable" god i love this show.
''You disgrace the Lannister name, for far too long''
And yet amazingly Tywin never considered having more children
@@Historyandlegends789 Tywin felt genuine love for his wife Joanna his cousin, it’s said that if she had lived past birthing Tyrion he wouldn’t be as cold or ruthless as he is especially since Joanna and the mother of elia Martel were friends or at least on speaking terms to arrange the marriage of oberon and cerise. By the time they married Tywin had already committed the deed that earned him the rain of castermear. Some believe that he wouldn’t hate Tyrion as much, still might despise him for being a dwarf but probably wouldn’t make his life hell for it
@@highlordnox1838 his love for Joanna aside, one would still think that he would practise what he preached and put his house above his own feelings and remarry to have more children. Although to be fair, the idea that Jaime would be named to the kingsguard was probably not something that he anticipated. So he imagined that Jaime was the only heir he needed.
The body language and non-verbal acting in this scene is extraordinary... Before we even consider the dialogue, truly exceptional!
Tywin: Tyrion, check.
Tyrion: :(
Cersei: :D
Tywin: Cersei, checkmate.
Cersei :(
It was almost a blessing Tywin died by season 4 so the writers had zero chance of ruining his character
One thing I always liked about show Tyrion, especially in this moment is that even tho the tables turn on Cersei, he doesn't get smug or rub it in her face, he actually looks like he feels pity for her.
Absolutely love Charles Dance in this. Could not have picked a better actor to play this character
Charles Dance’s Tywin is an example of the rare occasion of the Film/TV adaptation of a character being better than their book counter-part
It's incredibly satisfying watching Cersei's smugness get absolutely melted by Tywin.
I wish there was an alternate universe where Tywin was the main character of this show and made it to the end lol. Charles Dance is so good at this. Him and Sean Bean by far were the best actors on the show.
They look like children who's toys have been taken away of them at the end 😂😂😂
Charles Dance has a great performance not just in this scene but throughout GOT He nailed the Tywin character.
I remember watching This scene how much i hated cersei And tywin for continously putting down tyrion , and when Tywin turned to Cersei I found great enjoyment in watching her get hers.Cersei is the literal architect of her own misery.
Unfortunately he did see the bigger picture.
To Twyin his children where means to a end. I felt bad for both of them here great acting but both of them acted like scared children in the face of their angry father
Tywin isnt putting tyrion down in this scene, he is handing tyrion the entire north. Tywin always value power more than whines and wishes of girls.
"You'll marry the Stark girl and you'll marry Loras. Now fuck off!"
How Cersei acts all gleefully because she can torment her brother until it's suddenly her turn.
That’s was so satisfying when Karma hits her
All three earned their wages in this scene! Man this show was so good back in the day!
Tywin Lannister is without question the greatest character ever put on page and thank the Gods Charles Dance played him..I would watch a young Tywin prequel over and over again
Tyrion has only one conversation with Olenna and Tywin immediately jumps to “your new friends the Tyrells” 😂😂
The thing about Tywin, is he's always talking about Family, and making a legacy. When he doesn't really care about family, or his children at all. He cares about his name, Lannister. He cares that Lannister is the most powerful name in westoros, he cares that the name Lannister, will carry on for 1000 more years. when his sons were captured, he raised an army to go free them, not because he cared about their wellbeing, only because they were named Lannister, and how dare someone spit in the name of Lannister.
You goddamn right.
His children were pieces on a chess board he moved about for his advantages without a care for what they wanted or said. If people ask me how did Cersei become so narcissistic. I answer. "She got it from dear old dad."
It's very subtle, but it's great character writing.
Tyrion: "You want Sansa to marry me? How can you do that to Sansa?"
Cersei: "You want me to marry Loras? How can you do that to me?"
Tyrion is short of stature, but he's a genuinely good person. Bitter and hedonistic, yeah, but when the chips are down, he's very understanding of people, empathizes with them and wants to protect those important to him. The sweet irony is that if he was of regular size, he might be a better knight than Jaime, who has his heart in the right spot, but also isn't above being vain.
Season 8 Tywin: "And you will marry The Night King"
Charles dance as tywin is the best casting decision in the history of cinema. (Heath as joker and Ewan as obi wan also)
this is basically being in middle school lunch laughing at your friend gettin burned (tyrion) only to hear the dreadful “I know you’re (cersei) not laughing” 😂
After learning what Tywins wife meant to him and her role at court, I can understand Tywins explosive anger. Cersei has known an entire life of unearned privilege and status, not knowing how much work her father put in to provide all that
her dad is a noble he rich from birth he not born poor
@@MaiNguyen-ck4br but still house Lannister was a laughing stock because Tywins father Tytos was weak as hell and Tywin made house Lannister what it is and made everyone fear house Lannister
Yeah of course rich yes but Status and fear no
This is really not how it all went.
@@MaiNguyen-ck4br Tywin rebuilt the Lannister wealth and prestige after his father virtually bankrupt them by giving out extravagant loans and didn't bother trying to collect. His father also refused to deal with unruly vassals to the point they would openly mock him to his face.
Privilege is invisible to those who have it.
Great Scene. Great writing. Great acting. Their faces at 3:23 Tyrion just glaring and Cersai stare, man you can truly see the anger and frustration in their faces.
It's really sad to look back on how well-plotted and well-written the first four seasons were after having suffered through the slow-motion trainwreck of the last seasons. What might have been...
Thr greatness of Game of Thrones died with Tywin Lannister. His influence was SO great, he influenced the production of the show itself.
of all Sansa had known, Tyrion was the best husband material, calm, vulnerable, intelligent
But that's not enough. I am a girl and if I would be in Santa's place I wouldn't be happy enough to marry tyrion even after knowing all these things. Tyrion was right here that Sansa deserved better
These were by far the best scenes in game of thrones. Once Tywin died there was no scene near the same quality as these.
It’s a testament to Lena Hedly’s acting abilities that I’m able to forget just how ridiculously gorgeous she is, even if just for a split second.
Wish Tywin never died... man was EPIC
🎯
Tywin sees his children as disgraces without ever realizing whatever they are it’s because of how he raised them.
Exactly. Even worst before his death we discover that he was with a whore, so he's a fucking hypocrite.
@@tamiloxd7168 Tywin didn’t have a problem with sleeping with whores. After all, that’s what they’re there for. To be used and discarded (in his mind). What he had a problem with was Tyrion MARRYING or courting a whore. He’s a son of the Great House of Lannister. In their culture, it’s considered extremely beneath him and a supreme embarrassment to bring a lowborn sex worker into their house/family (esp when her children could end up inheriting Casterly Rock someday).
he raised them to do each other? it is his strategy to keep them under his wings and make them do whatever he wants: never allow them to feel confident enough to disobey you.
@@exakdev2631 and look where that got him
@@vis1975 well yeah, he went a little too far with accusing Tyrion of murder and wanting to execute him
Any woman who must say “I am queen regent” is no true queen regent
Not going to lie, I love Cersei, but it was so satisfying to see that smile come off of her face
Really satisfying scene. Cersei going from typical smirking to being completely devastated. This is a finer reward than we could hope for.
The creak of the chair is such a great way to show Tyrion's confusion and shock.
Also Tyrion having a high pitch creak and Tywin having a swooping deep creak. A great show
Charles Dance is awesome!
yes he is! What a voice he has for making speeches and especially when it's an emotionally charged moment. I saw him on "The Crown" season 3. He did a FANTASTIC job and his speech was so powerful. He's just got a great voice for it.
Hilarious how Cersei thought Tyrian was the only one getting married 😂
She was shining like a cat with a cup full of cream... until...
If Tywin yelled at me I’d just start crying. 😂
I love the response tywin has to cersei when compared tyrion, he shouts at her over her blatantly trying to manipulate him and complaining how unfair it she is forced to marry momment after smirking and laughing at tyoins arranged marriage.
Where as with tyrion he rationalise to him why he's forcing him to marry sansa, when he shouts that she just a child he hangs his head down and goes silence
I get the feeling despite how much tywin hated his son he had far more respect for tyoin than he ever did cersei or jamie since he was a far better human being than he ever could be and he knew that
i dont really think its that he is a better person that tywin respects it is more his intelligence