Your simplistic style belies the fact that you are an accomplished user of the knife and communicator. This beats all the over production drama, hype, graphs and is honestly the best. knife recommendation video on the net. In these trying times I find watching you wield these knives with skill , care and respect very relaxing. Thanks you Phurong Nguyen and I hope you and yours are healthy and safe.
The Spyderco blade geometry and grind is not optimized for the task. The title compares blade steels but blade steel and geometry go hand-in-hand. I have a Spyderco Resillience, and it's a compact hard-use folder with a beefy spine. Also, the Spyderco is 100% serviceable and the handle design will be grippier and more comfortable long after you've had hand fatigue using the Opinel. Both are great knives for different uses. EDC are a very very tough market, and you can easily lighten your wallet trying to get the "perfect" one that does better on most EDC tasks, or you can buy a few different knives for the specific tasks. This just exposes that.
Wade Jensen its because its very very thin at and behind the edge compared to the other knives and its convex. Opinel are some if not the best in blade geometry out there to bad they dont make more modern folders or fixed blades with a little better steels and hardness they would dominate the market as they do now with their traditional folders.
@@williamhollar7844 I agree I'd say there was clear winner on this one and that would be Buck, for how thick it was it definitely sliced the paper best after the coconut
Looks like Buck is the clear winner here, but this still leaves many questions, other than what brand of knife you should buy if you want to put it through some fairly rough use. I say this because the heat treatment and blade geometry both count for something, maybe as much as the makeup of the steel itself. Buck might produce harder 420HC steel than Spyderco does with its 8Cr13MoV, and it's clear from the video that the blade on that Buck is considerably beefier than either of the others (the real shocker here is how well the Opinel stood up--pretty amazing at any price, given the relative flimsiness of the blade, but downright amazing for a knife you can get for under $20!). I have a Leatherman folder in 420HC that I'm very fond of, and for a long time I used it or everything from EDC-type tasks, to heavier use on camping trips. However, the Spyderco Tenacious in 8Cr13MoV that I bought earlier this year seems to retain its edge for longer. In general, this is what you'd expect: the Spyderco, being made of "harder" stainless steel, keeps an edge longer but is a little harder to sharpen than the "softer" carbon steel blade, which dulls a bit more quickly. But those scare quotes are there for a reason: to indicate that the hardening process also plays a major role in the finished product, which means that depending on the manufacturing process, you could very well get the opposite result, as you do in this video. To my mind, this demo is more about the specific brands and models being tested than about the steels, per se. Good work on the video, by the way. It's a great example of "pure" documentary cinema that gets straight to the point.
I have Spyderco Resilience and it does not come with shiny edge or so smooth closing. It is stiffer at closing. 8cr13mov is less shiny. Great video nonetheless
@@cristianitsirc6830 your hardly getting more function and you can get a 110 in s30v if you are cutting coconuts all day besides the 110 is more durable
The Opinel is sharp ,but the Buck is two kinds of sharp with the blade and looks , the Spyderco will need it's edge touched up alot ,but it got the job done.🙂✌️
Opinel is a lesson for us all . Smart hard working peasants from France against city slickers from New York and such .A lesson for people which blow hundred of dollars on a knife . I have spent a lot of money looking for a good knife and it was , under my nose all the time . What an irony .
You sure can tell the difference in Chinese made Spydercos can’t ya?!! As everyone probably knows, ya try that test with an American made Spydercoco and results would be completely different…but price would also be 5 times higher. Great video!!!
I was just saying I would be very interested in how the spyderco military would perform doing the same task. Thanks for your videos keep up the good work.
s30v is much higher. Its also a steel that can be pushed much further for the blade geometry as well. The Opinel is a great knife, but not a do-it-all EDC. The PM2 is much much more capable at more tasks than than the Opinel, and the ergos will be far better for you hand deep into its usage, and its fully serviceable. The great thing about the Opinels is that you can carry it, use it, and if you break it, and replace it for less than a few beers at the pub.
Josh K sorry but for tough or long cutting an Ipinel would feel much better in hand than a pm2. You saw how the resilience was hurting his hand and it doesn't have that compression lock cutout that's a we'll know hit spot. I love my elmax pm2, I put thicker marble c.f. scales on it and it has a Krein regrind so it's a laser but after cutting a bunch of cardboard it made my hand sore.
Cầm dao vậy hông đau tay hả anh? thấy thế cầm đó đau chỗ giữa ngón cái với ngón trỏ quá. Mà hình như clip này, spy thép vừa dễ mất bén mà cầm lại đau tay, khó gọt hơn nữa phải không anh
I'd be curious to know what kind of sharpener you used. If it's the pull-through type, then you'd be doing more harm than good, tearing up the blade edge and causing it to dull much faster.
I found it interesting that his after cutting and again slicing papers again, his slicing Style with the Spyderco was completely different than the other knives after he cut these coconuts it was more like he was trying to press it through the paper more then slice it through the paper which he did with the others. I have to call BS and it's biased again Spyderco resilience because mine doesn't dull out from harder work than that one coconut shaving
Great way of comparing individual knives although it does not indicate why one performed better than the other due to the number of differences between any two of these knives, variation in profile, handle design, and edge geometry, as well as steel.
SuperSneakySteve i assume you mean carbon steel, and no. We have taken advantage of various elements and alloys, so that super steel can surpass carbon steel in hardness, edge retension, corrosion restisance and toughnes. But it is still very expensive.
The opinel is not even carbon steel, it's a nice pure fine grained stainless steel from Sweden. Also, the Spyderco uses a middle grade steel, and the Buck a lower grade one. No supersteels here. Properly heattreated Powder steels are beasts in edge retension but a bitch to sharpen at times.
Какието не такие кокосьі, как у нас в магазине продаются. У нас с твердой ореховой скорлупой, под которой если разбить молотком похожая на ореховую мякоть.
Your simplistic style belies the fact that you are an accomplished user of the knife and communicator. This beats all the over production drama, hype, graphs and is honestly the best. knife recommendation video on the net. In these trying times I find watching you wield these knives with skill , care and respect very relaxing. Thanks you Phurong Nguyen and I hope you and yours are healthy and safe.
I don't even speak Vietnamese, but understood your video perfectly. Good job!
The Spyderco was pretty disappointing...
Thanks you so much
The Spyderco blade geometry and grind is not optimized for the task. The title compares blade steels but blade steel and geometry go hand-in-hand.
I have a Spyderco Resillience, and it's a compact hard-use folder with a beefy spine. Also, the Spyderco is 100% serviceable and the handle design will be grippier and more comfortable long after you've had hand fatigue using the Opinel. Both are great knives for different uses. EDC are a very very tough market, and you can easily lighten your wallet trying to get the "perfect" one that does better on most EDC tasks, or you can buy a few different knives for the specific tasks. This just exposes that.
@@nakinp8525 what is all that noise in the back ground . It s very annoying.
@@rickeybullington68 Its motors and scooters noise, you know Vietnam is the most motorcycles in the world
wow...the opinel really kicked arse on that one! could be a lot of factors but it would seem that the 12c27 definately has the edge
Wade Jensen its because its very very thin at and behind the edge compared to the other knives and its convex. Opinel are some if not the best in blade geometry out there to bad they dont make more modern folders or fixed blades with a little better steels and hardness they would dominate the market as they do now with their traditional folders.
The Buck 420hc looked just as good
The Opinel has a thin blade stock with a very thin edge. It will naturally cut better that the others.
@@williamhollar7844 I agree I'd say there was clear winner on this one and that would be Buck, for how thick it was it definitely sliced the paper best after the coconut
Cool video. It shows the superior heat treat that buck does on their knives.
The Opinel is a terrific knife.The nr12 costs about 16 euro's.
This lines up with the results that were obtained by Peter on the Cedric and Ada channel. This almost seems like it was filmed in Saigon.
U has Just tested exately the 3 knives i can't choose between!
I carried the carbon Opinel 10 and 12 for years when I was working as a pharmacy tech--easy to keep sharp and easy on the pockets
Looks like Buck is the clear winner here, but this still leaves many questions, other than what brand of knife you should buy if you want to put it through some fairly rough use. I say this because the heat treatment and blade geometry both count for something, maybe as much as the makeup of the steel itself. Buck might produce harder 420HC steel than Spyderco does with its 8Cr13MoV, and it's clear from the video that the blade on that Buck is considerably beefier than either of the others (the real shocker here is how well the Opinel stood up--pretty amazing at any price, given the relative flimsiness of the blade, but downright amazing for a knife you can get for under $20!).
I have a Leatherman folder in 420HC that I'm very fond of, and for a long time I used it or everything from EDC-type tasks, to heavier use on camping trips. However, the Spyderco Tenacious in 8Cr13MoV that I bought earlier this year seems to retain its edge for longer. In general, this is what you'd expect: the Spyderco, being made of "harder" stainless steel, keeps an edge longer but is a little harder to sharpen than the "softer" carbon steel blade, which dulls a bit more quickly. But those scare quotes are there for a reason: to indicate that the hardening process also plays a major role in the finished product, which means that depending on the manufacturing process, you could very well get the opposite result, as you do in this video.
To my mind, this demo is more about the specific brands and models being tested than about the steels, per se. Good work on the video, by the way. It's a great example of "pure" documentary cinema that gets straight to the point.
Buck and opinel preform about the same with that in mind the next thing to look at is price opinel cheaper so it is clear winner
@@jimybrooks6055 Yeah if you’re so poor you can’t afford a buck go for the opinel
@@Sujamma_Enjoyer lol is it about being poor or getting the best deal
@@ttjbiggunner2025 it’s not that clear cut the only thing your paying for with opinel is the blade steel
I'd say the real surprise is the Spyderco, well done!
Forget the knives, now I want fruit. Got any papaya. Green is good with salt! Ripe is sweet YUM!
LOL !
Sou novo no seu canal, gostei do teste faça mais comparativos com canivetes, abraço !
I have Spyderco Resilience and it does not come with shiny edge or so smooth closing. It is stiffer at closing. 8cr13mov is less shiny. Great video nonetheless
Luv my buck vantage with 420hc blade
They all work, but the Opinel costs a small fraction of the others’ prices.
True but Just how simple do you want to get with a knife design? It’s bordering and bland
@@Sujamma_Enjoyer I'll take function over looks anyday
@@cristianitsirc6830 your hardly getting more function and you can get a 110 in s30v if you are cutting coconuts all day besides the 110 is more durable
@@Sujamma_Enjoyer true but nobody seems to realize the strongest folding knife still sucks compared to cheap fixed blades when doing tasks like these
The Opinel is sharp ,but the Buck is two kinds of sharp with the blade and looks , the Spyderco will need it's edge touched up alot ,but it got the job done.🙂✌️
Great video and Thanks .
If you are looking for self defence spyderco is the best here ,but if you want everyday use knife go for opinel
wow great video thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching
Opinel is a lesson for us all . Smart hard working peasants from France against city slickers from New York and such .A lesson for people which blow hundred of dollars on a knife . I have spent a lot of money looking for a good knife and it was , under my nose all the time . What an irony .
It's a gentlemans edc
Yeah, is good for everybody.
Opinel number one
You sure can tell the difference in Chinese made Spydercos can’t ya?!! As everyone probably knows, ya try that test with an American made Spydercoco and results would be completely different…but price would also be 5 times higher.
Great video!!!
Spyderco is trash
Different grinds, different angles, different blade geometry.
The Buck done great
GREAT VIDEO,
THOUSAND THANKS
Gutes video.Das Ergebnis hat mich nicht überrascht.
Danke!
Ouah!! Opinel is the best for 10 $!
Opinel❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Лучший из троицы по моему опинель, более удобный в работе, более резучая геометрия клинка
ME CANSE DE ESPERAR.
The ONLY two companies that know how to do 420HC are Buck and Gerber. ⚔️
According to some people, the handle on the buck falls apart (screws loosen up). Is that true?
Never had that problem with any of mine. All mine are USA made though. The one he is using is a China made Buck.
Only if you baton with it ie use it like a axe to split wood for a fire
Buck is the best
Wich One works Better?It seems buck
the buck i am happy atleast has the edge still
The spyderco performance was pretty bad. Maybe you should try the spyderco military next.
Im testing same level steels, spyderco military s30v is higher level
I was just saying I would be very interested in how the spyderco military would perform doing the same task. Thanks for your videos keep up the good work.
s30v is much higher. Its also a steel that can be pushed much further for the blade geometry as well. The Opinel is a great knife, but not a do-it-all EDC. The PM2 is much much more capable at more tasks than than the Opinel, and the ergos will be far better for you hand deep into its usage, and its fully serviceable. The great thing about the Opinels is that you can carry it, use it, and if you break it, and replace it for less than a few beers at the pub.
Josh K sorry but for tough or long cutting an Ipinel would feel much better in hand than a pm2. You saw how the resilience was hurting his hand and it doesn't have that compression lock cutout that's a we'll know hit spot. I love my elmax pm2, I put thicker marble c.f. scales on it and it has a Krein regrind so it's a laser but after cutting a bunch of cardboard it made my hand sore.
@@D00MTR33 because you got baby girl hands probably and I'm sure you're going to retort with I got Kung Fu Grip fingers or some shit like that
What kind of sharpener do you use
Lansky 4-rod diamond
Es una recilencé?
Reselens...
He seemed to cut the paper properly with the other two knife and the spyderco his technique was that of a child....
feelings hurt? its ok mine are too i just bought a spyderco
Con spyderco anh mua giá bn vậy anh
Cầm dao vậy hông đau tay hả anh? thấy thế cầm đó đau chỗ giữa ngón cái với ngón trỏ quá.
Mà hình như clip này, spy thép vừa dễ mất bén mà cầm lại đau tay, khó gọt hơn nữa phải không anh
A có bài review trong EMC đó, rất đau tay và khó cắt
Is your test based on factory sharpening?
Nope, I put a better edge on it with my sharpener.
I'd be curious to know what kind of sharpener you used. If it's the pull-through type, then you'd be doing more harm than good, tearing up the blade edge and causing it to dull much faster.
I found it interesting that his after cutting and again slicing papers again, his slicing Style with the Spyderco was completely different than the other knives after he cut these coconuts it was more like he was trying to press it through the paper more then slice it through the paper which he did with the others. I have to call BS and it's biased again Spyderco resilience because mine doesn't dull out from harder work than that one coconut shaving
Great way of comparing individual knives although it does not indicate why one performed better than the other due to the number of differences between any two of these knives, variation in profile, handle design, and edge geometry, as well as steel.
what is your GRIP style???
Buck & Opinel Sharp very well
I think Spyderco not good sharp
những con dao tuyệt vời
8cr is trash,no reason to buy it in 2021. Spyderco should be ashamed they still use it in a $50 knife.
Carbon steel is always the best.
Not compared to new super steels
An Opinel is $10. A super steel knife is $200-$500 and only comes close to carbon but doesn't surpass. I'll stick with carbon.
SuperSneakySteve i assume you mean carbon steel, and no. We have taken advantage of various elements and alloys, so that super steel can surpass carbon steel in hardness, edge retension, corrosion restisance and toughnes. But it is still very expensive.
The opinel is not even carbon steel, it's a nice pure fine grained stainless steel from Sweden.
Also, the Spyderco uses a middle grade steel, and the Buck a lower grade one. No supersteels here. Properly heattreated Powder steels are beasts in edge retension but a bitch to sharpen at times.
This is actually one of their stainless models! I only own the carbon version, but this video has intrigued me
cảm nhận của a Naki về con opinel inox thế nào a :D
Thép rất tốt trong tầm giá, bất tiện đóng mở 1 tay, nhưng làm bếp cắt thức ăn cực hiệu quả, con mắc tiền khác cũng ko sánh bằng về cắt ngọt.
Are automatic or open assisted knives?
They are all manual opening folders, the more simple the design the less likely something on it will break
what a disgrace spyderco is
With 440c..???
Vậy con thứ 2 là 7c13mov ??
Opinel dùng làm dao sinh tồn/đi rừng đc không ạ ? vì em sợ khi làm việc nặng, câi cán = gỗ có thể vỡ ._. ( nói về No 6 )
Gỗ nó rất tốt, khó mà vỡ, nhưng cũng ko làm dao sinh tồn được vì mỏng, ko thể chặt cây chẻ củi, opinel chỉ để cắt thôi
à vâng, em hiểu rồi. em còn 1 câu nữa, vì cái này không có lãy khóa phía sau nên nó có đc phép lưu hành ở Việt Nam không ?
I'm guessing the opinel will far win.
the spyedrco not orginal
que fruta es esa??? porque los cocos son duros y hay que romperlos
I dont understand what you mean
Green coconut
Es coco tierno se corta de la Palma.antes de que este muy maduro es cuando tienen más agua que pulpa
cho mình xin cái wed vào xem hàng đc ko
Mình ship từ amazon về, ko có buôn bán gì ko có wed nhé
Un spyderco chinois😂
🕷️ 💩🚮
Какието не такие кокосьі, как у нас в магазине продаются. У нас с твердой ореховой скорлупой, под которой если разбить молотком похожая на ореховую мякоть.
No they rust to much
Opinel win.
Yes
Opinel
Opinel