Ender 5 Plus Micro Swiss Direct Drive Upgrade - With all metal hot end!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2020
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This is the long anticipated Micro Swiss Direct Drive for the Ender 5 and Ender 5 Plus. I have been waiting for this kit for a very long time. Will it meet my expectations, or will it be a huge let down?
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0:11 intro
3:16 Carriage Removal and Disassembly
5:19 Tools needed
5:52 Unboxing
6:25 Direct Drive Assembly
13:24 MorningThe Direct Drive
14:35 Hot End Wiring
16:50 Wiring and Cable Organization
19:13 PID Tuning and E Step Calibration
21:50 Doing Some Test Prints
22:28 Print results
28:31 Final Thoughts
Direct Drive from - store.micro-swiss.com/collect...
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PRILINE Carbon Fiber PETG 1KG 1.75 3D Printer Filament, Dimensional Accuracy +/- 0.03 mm, 1kg Spool, 1.75 mm,Black
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PRILINE TPU - www.amazon.com/PRILINE-TPU-1KG-F
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SUNLU PLA Plus - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
MicroSwiss hot-end
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Harbor Freight workbench -www.harborfreight.com/60-in-4...
Disclaimer - This is an instructional video only - I assume no responsibility if you do not become a pro after watching this video. This video is for learning purposes only, you are following the steps in this video at your own risk!
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interesting as always! thank you Tripod. and good to see Bear.
Thanks for the video. Will be installing the Micro Swiss setup on my Ender 5 Plus on Monday (as soon as it arrives). Glad to see I likely made a good decision to purchase prior to watching your vid, but I’ll be referring to it again during the install.
Thank you for the video, love your content.
Micro Swiss had said to me previously they were hoping to have a ender 5 kit available soon. It took me till 3 minutes and 20 seconds of your video before I nipped over and ordered the full kit 👌👍
Mark Evans - It is a great kit! The machining is top notch!
I just installed this setup on my ender 5 and after printing a knob for the extruder in PLA to make sure it was dialed in I started using Carbon fiber PC with the hardened nozzle. So far it's worked great.
John, your videos keep getting better and better. I wish I had your skills.
Thanks David! Still having some audio issues. I screen through the video 3 times, and yet there are parts that go up and down in volume. Next video will be a little more basic, I need one of those. These are taking a while to produce. Thanks again for watching!
I watched. I liked. I subscribed. I purchased. In that order. A good tutorial is priceless like. Thanks for the time and effort.
This video was awesome. My factory hotend got totally wrecked on my 3rd day of printing and I had to re-do my whole hotend with the microswiss and this video got me through!
On the Ender 3/CR-10 version, they have instructions to add home offsets, which would help with those binder clip collisions. Surprised that isn't part of the install instructions for the Ender 5.
Love your tutorials! Thanks for sharing. I have seen tons and tons of videos but my petg prints came out much better after seeing your video. I will really appreciate it if you could do a tutorial on the pla, tpu settings with all-metal hot end please.thanks a lot.
Sangeeta Shah - Thanks for watching! Sounds like a plan, I will get started on the profile video. Thanks for the suggestion!
LoL, first comment in video was my exact thought when I unpacked mine. The workmanship of MicroSwiss is second to none.
I am amazed at the quality! The fit and finish is perfect!
@@TripodsGarage Imagine my disappointment when I bought the first kit and almost got all the way through installing before I realized it wasn't compatible with the E5's.
I see you used the original Ender 5 fan and housing. That's great because now I can re-install my EZ-ABL. Also you used the same wiring harness so I don't have to go into the main board? (ugh!) I'm using TH3D's Marlin so I can enter those commands in my Gcode Start Script instead of connecting a laptop (which I don;'t have) to my printer (which will be hard because of my Micro to SD converter box. This looks great. Bontech and others require a whole new wiring harness. My Spool mount is on the top rear so I don't need too long of a Capricorn tube? Couple of inches maybe? Thanks for the great video. 👍👍👍
Flow rate and stringing retuning likely too for best result.
What type of nozzle is provided in the kit? Really interested in getting into some carbon fiber/nylon prints and not sure if the nozzle that comes in the kit would work for that.
So what are your thoughts on the Ender 5 plus now having it for a while? I have a Ender 3 pro and im looking for my next printer and im looking at a E5 plus.
Hey man, would you mind linking your cura profile? We have the same setup, not getting as good results. Thank you
great video! just ordered one off your link - I hope you get a kickback
John Coyne - Thanks for watching! No affiliate link on this one. Thanks again!
@@TripodsGarage bummer, you are a great salesman for them - hey it already shipped, despite the warning on the page :)
What bracket did you use for the BL touch? I printed one I found online but it puts the BL touch too low. Thanks!
I'm on the edge to do it also. But I have my Ender 5 in an enclosure and I do not know how much clearance would this upgrade need. From your experience how much centimeters does it add to the top of the current hotend?
Would this fit the mounting plate on an ExoSlide gantry??? Another thing I wanted to ask you is, where can I find the STL files for the printed items you had at MRRF??
+1 likes for pointing out that I needed to change the e-steps from the default to 130 steps/mm. I've been wracking my brain and the internet all day to figure out that I didn't read the manual as well as I should have. Doh. Thanks for your video! :)
Tap the input side and attach a bowden coupler to the top? Enough metal for that?
Maybe get rid of the clips and look for magnetic flexsteel solution as a future project?
Yep there was enough to metal to thread. Yeah, defiantly need to get rid of the binder clips!
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Look for the PEI flex-plates. I got the textured one side / plain the other side type. Haven’t got around to installing it on the Ender 5 Plus yet.
Accumulating other upgrades that I need to get around to: BTT SKR 1.4 Turbo board and TFT35-E3. Working on an adapter to attach the TFT35-E3 in place of the original screen - same idea as the one for the non-E3 TFT35. I prefer that layout for SD-Card etc.
It’s quite a printer now, nice
Masso1973 - Thank, it is running great!
It's on sale atm through their offical site, hotend/direct drive cost me $69 no tax free shipping. I think it's good for the entire holiday season but not sure. The discount code is on the header of the offical site.
for ender 5 plus do you prefer e3d hemera or Micro Swiss Direct Drive ? Thank Youuu. :))
hello nice video hi from mexico i put the swiss direct to my ender 5 plus right now I SUFFER some issues with the nozzle temperature sensor, i cut it with the screw so i buy a new one and all look fine now , i have a question to you i put a default retraction this moment because it late night, and u live the steps default and its printing, so i have to change the steps ? its totally necesary? i have 2 cr10 v3 and before i change the nozzle of the ender it feels weak, and now with default steps feel so stronger! thansk for this video and i wish you could tell me if i need put the commands you put in the video, best regards and thanks for your time TU AMIGO PEPE
Did it change the offset of the BLTouch?
i got a new one with new guide rollers and hoten for 50 bucks and i love this on my ender 5 total improvement over creality prints look amazing no stringin less retraction i love it would of paid the 99 bucks gladly
Hi Tripod. I’ve got an idea to make an ender 5 plus have a 600x1600 bed by extending sections etc. do you think this will work?
Im following your instructions but I am unable to fit the drive belt around the loop on the side and simultaneously accommodate the BL touch. The problem is mainly that the belt is un centered and looks off and crushed to the bottom of the pre cut hole on the ms hotend. I can send pictures if needed. Do you have any recommendations on how to fix?
Niiiice;))
Thanks for the great video! I have the micro swiss extruder installed but I can't figure out how to change the factory maximum temperature setting from 260 to 300. Can you help me? Thank you very much. I am not a computer junkie and I do not have any programing skills.
So........how does the print quality compare to the original Bowden?
Does the BL touch and the hot end have the same placement as the original Creality plate? I am still using (for now) the Creality firmware so if the BL touch and hotend are in different locations, I am not sure how to adjust that.
mpoffinbarger
It’s adjustable from an M code: marlinfw.org/docs/gcode/M851.html
I installed the same with hot end on my End 5 Plus also.. But now have a issue.. I tried there g code link download on the steps setting, and now it wont print correct, I get window I had never seen before. Using Prusa slicer it will print the out side line or two then stops, homes at the back and screen pops up says do you want to change the filament yes or stop the print no, if yes then shows image like hand with needle cleaning the tip. On cura / creality splicers, it will move all the way to its front right travel to the front left then back to the stop at its left says finished, no filament extruded at all... Filament is brand new roll.. I even went back and followed what you did and another vid on how to set the step using a measurement to fine tune, ( is why mine is set to 141 and not 130) and it will feed out on refuel very nice looking.
This is what Im looking at, is there something off or missing..
Printer is now online.
echo: External Reset
Marlin Ver 1.71.0 KF
echo: Last Updated: 2020-04-01 | Author: Ender-5 Plus
echo:Compiled: May 10 2020
echo: Free Memory: 1355 PlannerBufferBytes: 1312
echo:V41 stored settings retrieved (526 bytes; crc 63669)
echo: G21 ; Units in mm
echo: M149 C ; Units in Celsius
echo:Filament settings: Disabled
echo: M200 D1.75
echo: M200 D0
echo:Steps per unit:
echo: M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E141.49
echo:Maximum feedrates (units/s):
echo: M203 X500.00 Y500.00 Z12.00 E120.00
echo:Maximum Acceleration (units/s2):
echo: M201 X9000 Y9000 Z500 E10000
echo:Acceleration (units/s2): P R T
echo: M204 P1500.00 R1500.00 T1500.00
echo:Advanced: S T B X Z E
echo: M205 S0.00 T0.00 B20000 X10.00 Y10.00 Z0.20 E2.50
echo:Home offset:
echo: M206 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
echo:Auto Bed Leveling:
echo: M420 S0 Z2.00
echo:PID settings:
echo: M301 P14.72 I0.89 D61.22
echo:Z-Probe Offset (mm):
echo: M851 Z-1.08
echo:Linear Advance:
echo: M900 K0.00 R0.00
echo:SD card ok
Init power off infomation.
size:
585
init valid:
0
0
echo:enqueueing "M420 S0"
***Initing card is OK***
echo:SD card ok
===Initing RTS has finished===
echo:Bed Leveling Off
echo:Fade Height 2.00
What were your TPU settings by chance? speed, heat & Flow rate? I've installed the same Kit & trying to work with TPU, but running into issues, also Micro Swiss says to keep the tension low on the spring low for TPU.
Lennie AKA WeirdRacin - What are your current settings? Are you using the direct drive?
@@TripodsGarage I think i might have figured it out, i need to estep check it, since it is flexing a lot, but first few layers looked great, but then it requires about 145% flow rate to keep it looking good. otherwise it will be good, then turn into a spit spit spit, then look good back & forth as it printed.
Also i have the stock spool holder & i think the new roll tension, was stretching the filament to the micro swiss direct drive trying to pull it. So i would unravel some let it run & then unravel some more to reduce the drag it was causing with Ninjaflex 85a.
245 nozzle, any lower & i can hear it skipping at the drive every few seconds. the nozzle that came with the Micro Swiss kit.
45 bed
.2 layer
20 speed, initial 15
I tried retract to 2 to reduce the the ooze on movement to next area, because after it would start, it was as if it lost the molten part during the move, so leaves empty area a bit.
@@Weirdracin I am printing esun 95a tpu with it and getting good results. My esteps after calibration ended up being 284 in marlin. I print at 235° and I also dry my tpu in a dehumidifier and feed it straight from that to the printer. Tpu is hydroscopic and have found that even some brand new rolls need drying and that helps it a lot to stop spitting.
What size is the nozzle supplied with the kit
HA! I did the same thing for the same reason....booty weight over the front :) Now I am combing YT to try and find a better way to calibrate it , preferably the "dry air" but that doesn't look promising.
Nice video - as always. I recently put the Micro-Swiss all metal DD kits on my 5 plus and 3 pro. I got in on the holiday special. Got the whole kits for $69.00 ea. They are awesome. You need to get rid of those stupid binder clips on your bed. You want some Micro-Swiss Clips to go with your Micro-Swiss DD/all metal hotend? I have a bag of 100. I'll mail you a couple dozen. You'll love them.
P.S. Not trying to be a critic - But - You forgot to mention about retraction settings in the video. If someone goes completely off your video they're gonna have major stuck filament in the all metal hotend running 6mm or more retraction. It''s in the micro-swiss install instructions - so most will probably catch it.
@@MidMadn Yeah you are correct I didn't mention the retraction. However, there is a brief second on 19:15 that has a screenshot of it ;-). Guess I did over look it, and 6 months later you were the first to catch it! Nicely done!
Nothing worse than buying a printer close to $600 and it comes with binder clips! Shoot me an email, I can use them! Thanks!
I know this is an old video, but I can ONLY see the hole in the work bench! How many screws have you "misplaced" that way?
Oh! That darn Harbor Freight workbench! Those peg holes drive me nuts! Luckily there are drawers underneath. However, parts still fall into Narnia 😂😂
what do you do if the thermistor is stuck in the hot end?
:( cant figure out how to make it print in the middle !!!, I have the same setup ender 5 plus, micro swiss direct drive
A pancake stepper might be a good idea some time in the future.
I agree, a nice pancake stepper would lighten the load of the gantry. Will be replacing it soon.
@@TripodsGarage hope you do a video when you do that.
Any thoughts on what pancake stepper you would use?
Brett Wilkinson - Yep! Looking at ordering one this week!
@@brettwilkinson7130 LDO is a popular brand. (That's what Bondtech uses among others). I have 2 lying about, one 1.8 degree Bondtech and one 0.9 degree LDO that I haven't tried yet.
Where did you get the mount for the bltouch?
The Ender 5 Plus comes with the BL-Touch installed as default.
I really love the info and upgrades you do. Makes my choices to buy on way easy. I learn a lot off you. Only don't wanna be the bad guy and say this but can you please turn off autofocus. I rader see a bit blur and hear all. Than see a lot off blur and hear. For the rest mate please keep the content commin loving it.
Do u think should I buy ender 5 plus
ZIN may Zumba and aerobic - Yes, I would suggest it. Seeing lots of posts that they are now being shipped with Meanwell power supplies.
LOoool, my silicon sox left an impression in my wallet! Need a better way to calibrate this, having to deal with the Hot End......
The Ender 5 Plus, a machine to be modded. I feel sorry for someone who gets it stock and says I'm done it will print, and I'm happy. This is a racehorse that needs to be trained
David Wilson - Agreed! Taylor it to fit your needs 😉
changed e stpes to 130. welp. calibraiton cube comes out liek garbage wwent back to 94 and its beautiful. what gives? e 130 gives me horrible z banding when e 94 makes it smooth as butter
I saw bear at 22;00
Yep! Try to get him in the video somehow!
love the Bear!
look at u mr dd lol
Yes! Mr DD! LOL!
That benchy definitely looks worse than my out of the box Bowden set up Ender 5Pro. Not sure the upgrade is worth it (for me).
Glad to see you are getting a solid benchy from you Ender 5 Pro.
@@TripodsGarage Yeah, I would say it's not the quality that concerns me most as my prints are nice looking usually but the clogging... for me it is a nightmare. It's the reason I was looking for a direct drive alternative thinking maybe less retraction would help. I did the hotend mod with small ptfe tube and washer and it helped but not completely I think I will upgrade my cooling first to something better before a direct drive solution. By that time maybe the new Micro Swiss direct drive design is out.
Probably a good video but for a relativly noob, it woud have been nice without the fast forward parts and filming that shows a bit better what you are doing and what goes where.😊
Think there is a big difference these videos I made a year ago to the ones I am making now.
Micro Swiss - example what happens when you are too complacent and thinking you'll always be the best. Chinese have cought uo with you lol, now it won't be smooth sailing anymore :) Just check the latest chinese all metal hotends, they fixed the issues with micro swiss one and made a better one at a fraction of the price. Time of skinning customers is over MS, bye bye :)