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- Coleman CT200U gets a VM22 Mikuni / Top speed run
Installed a VM22 Mikuni carburetor on the Coleman CC200U minibike's 196cc engine.
Did some speed tests to see if the carb would add any performance.
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VM22 Mikuni carburetor
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As always quality professional grade video I swear u rival all the top of the line channels and the crazy part is I'm sure this is just a hobby and your just having fun!
Thanks! That is awesome you say that! Ya, it is just a hobby. But it really is fun messing with this stuff.
well said dont forget how easy he makes it look too ...Alrigght theres that
@@Spacecruizer203 it’s magic 🪄
@@Black66 sHazaaM!!!! BLackMaGic
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I purchased a CT200U 3 months ago and I’ve been trying to catch up with your mods as I have time. Just got the Predator 224 and Mikuni carb waiting for installation. Best speed is 57 so far. Thanks for the great detailed instructions in your videos. It’s made my mods so much easier and more enjoyable.
That is awesome! I'm glad the videos helped. I have more 224 stuff coming.
Youve showed me what i meed and dont need throughout all your videos. 🤘🤘🤘 Thank you! Will be posting soon!
Thanks for watching .
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Just got my mikunni about 4 days ago.
Great little carburetor. It came with a 130/16 jet setup from GPS. Nice to see the difference between stock carb and the mikunni. 👍
Oh sweet! You got a good one. Ya, they for sure make a difference.
Seriously cool stuff! I really your board showing your mods and progress. I bought my Coleman a this last summer and I’ve added a few MPH with mods. Your videos have been a big help! Look forward to more!
Thanks! I have more coming on the CT200U and the CT200U-EX. Here is the playlist for the CT200U th-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/w-d-xo.html
Man this video was awesome! Have you thought about getting the front fork suspension kit? It only runs about $175 and can pair with a seat spring setup to make the ride more comfortable!
love this series
Thanks!
beast !!!! good upgrade man hiho silver !!!away!!!!!!!!
My 196 w/ 224 ported and polished head and PWK 28 , no governor and header went 66 straight chain and 10/50 👍
Man great stuff!!! I’ve learned so much from your videos since discovering your channel about a month ago. I have a couple questions if you have a few min. Any way I can get in touch with you? Keep those great videos coming
Thanks! You can email me . Info is in the about tab
Great vid!
Thank you!
Hey brother I just added a mikuni to my stock governed 212 tilly. I just disconnected the governor arm like you did but I didn’t crack it open to do all the removal. I wanted to ask In this video did you just leave the arm unconnected and it functioned perfectly fine? I figure there’s no harm in leaving the governor in on the set up if we haven’t had time or are not able to mechanically remove the governor gear.
Always enjoy your videos. 👋I have a Coleman BT200x with the 196cc engine, I installed a Mikuni carburetor with a 125 jet and it runs great although it may be running a little rich in my opinion. Should you recommend a 115 jet instead. The governor is removed and I have a racing spark plug and aftermarket pipe and muffler. Top speed I am getting is about 38mph. What would be the normal RPM for this type of engine? Thank you,
You need a 40 tooth sprocket man
So what exactly did you do with the govenor rod thats all im really confused about i have same carb just not sure what to do about that
Hey. I appreciate your videos. Really helped me a lot. Can you help me understand the drain line? I don’t see where it goes? Thanks.
You have a link for adapter for bigger air filter?
That road looks mighty chunky and he go 49!
Check out this playlist. I have went a lot faster down that road lol th-cam.com/video/jPNhbOVQ7yQ/w-d-xo.html
Adjust that Brake Lever at the Wheel, too. Move it back a couple-3 splines. It needs to almost look like a 'V'. Much more leverage, and way better braking.
I just bought a mi mikuni clone carburetor and I was wondering whats so fun up with the hose phoning from the bottom?
Like the solder job on throttle cable.
If you haven't already check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more parts combos with this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Is it safe to run it at these speeds with no billet parts? , I have the exact same set up except for the juggernaut
So I just finished installing the makuni carburetor. The only thing I've changed is the 50 to a 40tooth on the rear. Once the carb was assembled and on, I cranked it up. Good thing I was holding the brake. It just wants to do a burnout when I barely let off.. is it just my idle that needs to be adjusted?
I can’t find that adapter, I wanna run one of those big ones on my carb but I feel like all the ones I find are for the stock carb with te long carb studs
So this won’t add any speed if the governor is still installed?
just bought a yoxufa high Performance amazon carburetor for My b2oox comes with no instructions and 2 jets which one do I use🤔
My vm22 won’t start do u think it’s cause I haven’t changed out the jets ? all I have is a pipe but it won’t start
I have a 35tooth with a predator 212, header and vm22 kit, does 62 and has plenty of climbing power. Love these bikes. I just bought another one so i can mess with the 196
Check out the CT200u and CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and part swaps with theses bikes. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Is the governor mech still inside the engine. Is there an issue with the governor arm loose. I have a BT200x and lookin to do similar mods. great series BTW
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX series. Yes, the wheel is still inside the case on this engine. No issue with the arm loose. But it is always recommended to take the internal governor out.
@@Black66 so if I want to get a mikuni carb on my ct200u ex and disconnect the governor arm would it basically be like taking off the governor? Like will I be able to go faster then 20mph and do you need a different throttle cable on the ct200u ex if I put a mikuni carb?
Hey man what App do you use to test your top speed ?
I use three different apps or devices. I use digHUD on my phone along with the GPS on the camera and The Dragy performance meter.
Same mods on a big tire (19") baja should do 50 yeah?
What throttle cable will work with a that carb for a Coleman ct200u I don't trust solder
Do I half to change the jets with just the pipe ?
So what about the hole in the valve cover?
What size pilot jet,212 mod 2cam,springs rod flywheel have all that,vm22has 26mm with 38jet
Do I half to put flex and heat on the cable ?
What app do you use to measure the speed and 0 30?
I use a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 times, along with digiHUD on the phone and the camera GPS for top speed runs.
Do you have a video showing the other upgrades on this bike like the sprocket & header pipe
Yes, here is a playlist th-cam.com/video/ZFLSbnoH59g/w-d-xo.html
I been trying the last 2 days to solder a tip on the end of my throttle cable but cannot get anything to stick.. are you using plumbing solder? I have the skinny wire for electronics and wondering if that's the problem. I even tried melting into a pot and dipping and still nothing lol
Its electrical shoulder. I use flux on the tip of the cable first.
@@Black66 I did also, idk what it is lol
Did you just replace the main jet
Is this Carb for colman 196cc?
I don’t understand how the Throddle cable works with this set up??
So if I did a 40t with my jackshaft would I by chance get a similar speed? I’m trying to do this without getting a torque converter. I personally prefer the jackshaft for longevity reasons.
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I use a 40 sprocket with the jackshaft in one of the videos. Can't remember the top speed. Thanks for watching!
What adapter is that? I would love to be able to use the bigger filters
It’s on Amazon. Search filter kit
Where did you get that air filter adapter?
I can't remember where I got this exact one, but they have quite a few of them listed on eBay.
Have you ever tried a 301cc Predator on a minibike? Will it even fit?
I haven't tried it yet, but I think I can get it to fit.
I bet you could go up a jet on the main sounded like it had a little bog when you first hit wot also did you adjust the mixture screw? Or change the needle clip setting?
Ya, I think your right. I threw the carb on there without any tuning. I'm sure if I mess with the jetting I can get her to do over 50 MPH
@@Black66 Post a video when you hit 50 your my build then after I hit 50 with a 196 stock I'ma gonna 223 wild cat mine
@@505racing3 I hit well over 60 with this bike. Check out the playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Where did you get the air filter adapter?
ebay
Hey can man any chance you can please send the link to the mikuni carb you got and jet and also where can I get that filter you have on yours thanks wanting to hit 50 with the same set up you have just ordered my juggernaut I need the carb and sprocket to complete
The link is in the description of the video. It also has a filter in the kit.
Is it safe or good to run a 22mm mikuni carburetor on a stock Tillerson 212 ?
Yea I have rhe same motor on my Coleman with a Mikuni and a header pipe and I’ve sent it hasn’t blown up if you get a bigger cam 100% get billet rod and billet flywheel there’s videos on how to do it
Of all your minibikes, which combination of motor, clutch or converter, carb, cam, pipe, and gearing is the quickest 0 to 30?
How about top speed? I'm 230 lbs and plan to go off road in the desert. I'd gear down, since I need torque, not top speed. I don't intend to go over 30-35mph, and I don't want to smoke my clutch or belt.
I really like the engine on this bike. th-cam.com/video/eWSEkw-q2XM/w-d-xo.html Yes, you can get more radical, but for pretty much drop-in parts, this thing is really fun. It has quite a bit of torque even with the torque converter.
Do I have to remove the governor arm
does this still happen to be the best carb on the market for mph for the bike to date? I’m rebuilding my old ct200u from when i was a kid and i want it to rip!
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many carbs and combos on the Coleman bikes. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
What's going on sir watch all your content I can't get away from my TV be cuz I watch TH-cam on my TV that's a good formula you have on the mini bike do me one favor if you can get a hold of it where I stay I can get e85 if you can get e85 you'll go faster than 50 miles an hour that will be great to see how e85 will work on the mini bike keep up the good work I'll be watching bro 💯
Thanks! Good idea!
What happens to the governor? does it still restrict the engine?
I think it is eliminated.Mikuni has no governor provisions.
I’m looking to get a header pipe for my c100 but I don’t know what will fit I don’t want to get one and the exhaust hits somthing whats a couple you would recommend
Not sure if you're running the 3 horse or a Predator or something like that but I like this staged pipe for that type of frame.
www.ebay.com/itm/193709332828?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Here is a short pipe www.ebay.com/itm/262974643153?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
@@Black66 mine has the 212 non hemi
@@BradFFA Oh good! I like that three-stage long pipe for the 212
Can you please put the link to the adapter please
where did you get the vm22?
I usually put the links for the parts in the description of the videos. Check out the Coleman playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Hey man , I put on the same carb today and it wont idle it just takes off , can you help ?
th-cam.com/video/b5bY-1gIWWk/w-d-xo.html
If I wanna install a VM22 carb would I need to remove governor?
yes
@@one4x4nut The inkage governor right under the gas tank ?
where do u buy a jet
I’m just trying to get mine to 40-45 mph. I got an aluminum flywheel and an air filter kit and valve springs to go on tomorrow. Out of the box it did exactly 20mph. I did the zip tie trick it does exactly 30mph. I have a 40 tooth. I’m gona hold off to see how it is after getting rid of the valve float, tuning the carb and doing a lil clean up on the ports and carb. I got this one to ride with my son. I messed up and built a drag race mini that’s way too fast and he wanted to ride. The Coleman is perfect. He has a blast. He’s only 4 so 30mph is ripping for him.
It doesn't have to be fast to be fun for sure. Check out the CT200U and CT200U-ex playlist for many different part combos with these bikes.
I’m really surprised at how good it rides. It gets to 30mph fairly quick. We’ve been riding everywhere through the fields and dirt trails. Thanks to black 66 I already know what to do to get it ripping just right. Your the man.
@@jamesgravel7755 Glad I could help! Thanks for watching the videos!
Thank you thank you
Added a read mikuni 24mm flat slide to my 196cc build.
Gained 5mph
50 to now 55mph on gavel
However its real rich having a 130 jet and 4100 elevation.
Might look for a 110 jet and move needle
Again ty
does it have any internal upgrades?
Check out the CT200U-EX and CT200U playlist. The bikes have had many engine and part combos. th-cam.com/video/SB5q8OGRi_A/w-d-xo.html
What’s the blue thing in your Carburetor Kit I forgot the name
The intake manifold
@@Black66 oh Alr thanks
Hey black 66 , i just put a vm22 mikuni on mine , it idles on choke but dies on run , can you please help
th-cam.com/video/b5bY-1gIWWk/w-d-xo.html
Have the same bike what pieces exactly do I need for this build?
Check out the CT200U and the CT200U-EX playlist . Links for the parts are in the description of the videos. Thanks for watching. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
I bought the carburetor kit and it comes with 2 tubes connected with it and in the vid you don’t explain what to do with them can someone help me
Put the hoses on there and then zip tie them together and let them hang . Just overflow hoses
I don’t have the slide for the cable
Does this engine still have a governor gear?
Yes it does
@@Black66 how do you prevent the governor arm from moving off of momentum with all the linkage disconnected?
@@562jamesj I usually take the arm off the shaft coming out of the crankcase. That way when the shaft moves with engine RPM it really doesn't affect anything up top.
I wonder if you could tell me if I can install a 28mm tm mikuni flatslide on a stage 1 tilly with billet flywheel??
Ya you can . That carb is for big valve stuff so im not sure how throttle responsive it would be. I would like to test that carb out
Well that's awesome to hear, although I decided to do a full rebuild. Ported and polished head, flat top piston, billet rod, chromoly pushrods. Im stoked. Your vids help a ton.
Oh and a dyno 275 cam
@@jasonromair Thanks! It’s gonna be a rocket ship!
@@Black66 I hope so. I don't wanna fox nuttin up, lol. I'm new to engine builds. Hopefully after watching yours and others about 10 more times I'm good. I need to know how to find out if I need to cut valve reliefs in the piston.
Just got thr carb on the same bike but mine is back firing like crazy just ordered smaller jets
Be a man and shoot flames
F that stop 🛑 sign, send it!
Were can I purchase filter adapter
Here is a link for an filter adapter for the VM22 carb www.gopowersports.com/velocity-stack-air-filter-adapter/
I can’t find a jugger nut clutch can you help.
GPS has them, here is the link www.gopowersports.com/super-30-series-driver-the-juggernaut/
Just installed 22mm mikuni from go power sports and the bike running like it’s wide open throttle ! I put the bike on jack stands and started it up and it the motor reving to the moon . Don’t know what to do
same i have no idea either shit sucks
Do you need to sodder the cable?
If you use the stock cable. You can buy one with the tip already on the cable
@@Black66 I’m saying can I just use stock cable without cutting or soddering anything
@@Black66 I found a kit on Amazon that comes with the throttle cable made for that carb so that should work right
Are you done with the build on the black tac one?
No way! I have a lot of stuff coming out on that one
@@Black66 sweet! I’m looking at buying the same one soon and gonna do the same upgrades as you. Cant wait going to keep the 196cc motor tho
@@Shane.Snowhill That's a nice bike. You will love it. I have the 196 back on it now.
Doing more stuff to it.
@@Black66 I’m not sure if I’m going to get it all, might just get the header pipe, remove the governor and get the carb kit, will that make me do at least 30? Or need more
@@Shane.SnowhillI think that will do
It
What Pilot jet do you usually use?
Due to the altitude up here, this bike gets away with using the stock pilot jet.
@@Black66 Do you think since I'm down here at 600 I should use a 17.5?
@@xaviermccloud4586 Yes, I would try it. If the air fuel screw is between one and two turns out
and ideling good with the 17.5 then you know you pretty much have the correct jet in there.
@@Black66 Well I have a 20 in there and the problem I'm having is it wont idle correctly but its most likely due to me breaking off the tip of the fuel/air mixture screw in the back lol! That's most likely why I cant find a good idle right?
@@xaviermccloud4586 Oh maybe. Can you get it out of there? One thing about it is the VM22 carbs are inexpensive. They have an entire kit on Ebay ,Carb ,intake and air filter for $48
Where do you get your mine bikes
Al over the place. Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, Walmart.com, yard sales. pretty much anywhere I can find them.
What app for 0-30?
I'm using a Dragy performance meter. It is super accurate. Down to a few hundredths of a second.
What if you don't have the little fuel filter
Nothing really . You might have to clean the carb more often .
All you have to do to get that one mile per hour is wait till the wind is blowing and ride with the wind.
Good point!
What about that fancy flat slide you had? VM22 is old news and below you
I have a sweet flat slide video coming out
@@Black66 can't wait! I love my Nibbi 26mm. It's kinda like all the others from Chi-na, but double the price.
Would you happen to have a link for that muffler
Yes! here is the link www.gopowersports.com/header-pipe-coleman-ct200s-mega-moto-212-tillotson-225/
@@Black66 thank you sir loving the content
@@angelrojas2823 Thank you, I appreciate that
Be careful with that governor arm if it gets stuck forward it it will open up to 3/4 throttle possibly
Put a spring to hold it back till u take it off
It totally disconnected from the throttle with the VM22 carb installed.
115 ? My 196 still bogs at the top end with a 120 jet haven’t touched the pilot please help
Have you Checked out this video? th-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/w-d-xo.html
Yes currently at 1/half turns out
@@kashtonscustoms Check the color of the plug to see if you are rich or lean at the top end.
Do I half to remove the Throddle linkage ?
Yes, all of the linkage is removed.
@@Black66 so won’t this blow up the engine by removing all the linkage ? This seems like a complicated install I don’t understand how the Throddle works or anything
@@Black66 what type of cable do I need for this ? Just the normal stock cable?
@@Black66 my vm 22 i just got is different then yours it doesn’t have the slide that u put the cable in
Did you know you have a green man in your garage...sorta looks like he's from Mars.
Yes, he is the security guard.
men i like your video
Thanks! check out the CT200U-EX and CT 200U playlist on the channel. th-cam.com/video/oE_mP7-Hx_4/w-d-xo.html
What's your pilot jet size?
It is a #38 clone keihin pilot jet. It's the unmarked jet that comes with the carb. They seem to work really good for me on the 196cc bikes.
@@Black66 Hmm, I have a stage 2 Tillotson 212. I can't get my idle to stay around the 1500-1600rpm range. It likes to fluctuate between 2200-2500rpm range. I have the idle screw all the way out. The air fuel mixture screw is a turn and a half out. Any more and it runs too rich. I have the smallest pilot jet I could find which is a #32. It runs great at mid to top end, it's just that the idle is higher than I like. I do have the Juggernaut from GPS installed, this is a problem with high RPM idle, it's a little jumpy.
@@SaiyanPony Make sure there are no leaks between the manifold and the carb. When those two are bolted together. If they aren't aligned properly. It could leak at the O ring. The carb won't respond to tuning. Make sure the Manifold is on the correct way on the engine. They can go on upside down. I just try and make sure everything is cleaned and sealed before I try and tune it.
@@Black66 I checked for leaks, I didn't know they could go on upside down. I'll have to check that out. I matched the the shape of the manifold to the engine, I'll double check tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
@@SaiyanPony Not sure if you looked or not but when the manifold bolts to the carb . If that is twisted to one side too much the manifold doesn’t align with the o ring on the carb .
Not sure if any of this applies to yours . But it’s always good to make sure before you try tuning it .
Saw
You ever have problems with the Law yet?
Not yet
Just go billet internals man
no need robber venor
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*Fake mikuni carb*
Yes, the "fake " Mikuni out performs the Genuine version. And it's $30! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many carb and part combos on this bike and others. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
My vm22 won’t start do u think it’s cause I haven’t changed out the jets ? all I have is a pipe but it won’t start
Where did you get your air filter adapter?
I like your user name! Lol They have them on the OMB warehouse website . There are quite a few sellers on eBay that sell them too .
@@Black66 thanks ! Can you post a link into the description ? Having a hard time find it.
@@tbf174 I’ll put the links in the description when I get home .
If you type in Predator 212 air filter adapter on eBay , quite a few will show up . They mainly come as a kit with the air filter . Pretty much anyone of the ones that show up will work .
My vm22 won’t start do u think it’s cause I haven’t changed out the jets ? all I have is a pipe but it won’t start
My vm22 won’t start do u think it’s cause I haven’t changed out the jets ? all I have is a pipe but it won’t start
Maybe it has something to do with this...th-cam.com/video/b5bY-1gIWWk/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 if the Throddle cable is too long could that be making the bike shoot forward with out even giving it gas?