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- Coleman CT200U-EX goes 60 MPH with a predator 212
Installed a Predator 212 with a straight chain on the Coleman CC200U-EX minibike.
Did a top-speed run to see the results of the swap?
Coleman CC200U-EX playlist - • Coleman CT200U EX mini...
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ARC billet flywheel - www.arcracing.com/6695-predat...
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GX 160 head - www.ebay.com/itm/133786576477...
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VM22 Mikuni carburetor - www.ebay.com
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Header pipe - www.gopowersports.com/header-...
Clutch - www.ebay.com/itm/313092339316...
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Cool Video Keep Them Coming
Thanks !
A wise man once said, before you make a minibike go three times as fast, make sure it's brakes stop you 4 times as good.
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. Have front and rear disk brake conversion.
Exactly. Way too scary at an older age. I don't heal as fast.
@Black66 you should paint it and replace the light with a skull and convert the storage into a gas tank and put luggage racks on it and handgaurds and new grips custom pegs and finally that's all I have to say
@@Metalcrystalmusic I'm doing some of the things you mentioned, I just put handgrips and CNC pegs on mine
@Shotifyz I tried doing some of them but not to long ago I left my bike out at my freinds all weiner it still runs but we were gonna fix the exhaust cause it broke off I fixed it today but now I just need to fix the pull start get a new exhaust and I'm gold
Awesome videos. I am 60 and I still like these minibikes. Big changes in speed though since the Tecumseh 3.5 that I had from Sears.
I wouldn’t doubt if he just has 5 212 predators mounted together for his car engine.😂
Hmmmm...great idea!!!
That’s funny
No,when u first get it already dose 30mph
That still had more in it!!!! I have the same set up brand new bike and motor just not the cam n things which is coming!! Still so amazing what these little motors can do!! Thanks for ur vids much learned!👍🏾
Thanks!!
You're a braver man than me. On my lightly modified RB200 @ 45 mph I'm cringing about doing that on Chinese bearings.
What modifications did you do to it? I'm thinking of buying one and would like to get it up to some speeds like that
@@scottcolbern2224 Governor delete, vented crank case, billet rod, CM Super X grind .265 cam, flat top piston, .010 headgasket, 22 lb valve springs with .060 shims, champion rockers, Chikuni 24mm flat slide carb.
@@scottcolbern2224 oh and a PVL aluminum flywheel.
@@rcinful Bro, can you send me a detailed list of the parts and where you got them? My brother did a converter but it only tops 30, I'm trying to get at least 40-45.
My predator 212 that I took the governor off and got a modified carburetor goes 70😭
I have a stage 4 predator on a drift trike and always thought about building another engine and put it on a mini bike...great build..
Thanks! I really like this combo
Not sure I really want to go quite that fast. FYI I made a springer seat for my CT200UEX . Much more comfortable. Hinges at front and springs on rear. I will be using info from your other video to tune my carb properly. Thanks again.
I know you've done torque converter comparisons before. I would love to see the comp on this bike. However, I really like the simplicity of the straight chain, and it seemed like it has enough power to drive around in normal traffic. In my town, we are allowed to ride on all the streets (except main street) with our minibikes and ATVs. If we get a safety inspection pass, then we can go on main street also. I want to get this same bike new, make it like yours, and put blinkers, mirrors, front brake, and street tires, so I can cruise town and go anywhere I like. I love this channel! It's like minibike school and so fun. Ride that beast!
Thanks, man! I am happy you like the channel. I have fun making the videos. Ya, I think a straight-chain would work really good on one of these bikes with a 60 sprocket on the back versus the 50 that's on there.
It is really cool you can ride all over town legally.
@@Black66 love your videos of these Coleman’s. Can you do another video explaining the difference in straight chain vs torque converter and 40 -60 sprocket ?
@@bt4b4 I'll get back around to working with the big bikes again.
That’s awesome what state are you from
I'm doing this right now to my bt200x coleman can't wait to try it out once it's done
It's gonna be a rocket ship!
Great Video! 👍 and easy to understand 👌. thanks
Just built an engine just like that can't wait to get it on my bike
Your videos are very informative and educational, could you do some uphill test so we can see more of what the torque is like on straight chain setups
Thanks! Ya, I have been wanting to do some off road stuff . I’ll have to do that .
Dan it's garbage on straight chain no power at all I've got a predator 212cc removed the revlimiter out of the motor and added a performance muffler and a torque unit and it's fast at 60mph and has lots of climbing power
@@Black66 OMBWAREHOUSE THEY WILL HAVE ALL THE PARTS YOU NEED
Hey black, it’s not about this video but I have a question I just order some street tires from sun F and their wobbling really bad at high-speed. I was wondering if you could show how we can speed balance our Mini Bike wheels
My first bike was a mini with a Tecumseh motor...gas was .35 cents an imperial gallon! Broke a ring and scored the piston and cylinder...that was the end of that. 50 years later...still breaking motorcycles lol
Hey I’m young and my dad just bought one of these I’m planning on working on it. What’s the first thing I should buy to increase speed but also not be a gas guzzler. Thanks
I put a built and dyno'd 16 hp ducar motor on my minibike, which is only slightly bigger than your Coleman c100 (it's an old 60s Montgomery). And the thing hits 60 on the dot with a straight chain within a couple seconds. The thing is a total death trap and I love it hahah
Awesome!
How tight should my chain be
I really appreciate this video and you telling me about this engine ✊
Awesome 💪🏾
That was awesome! Do you think the 196cc engine that comes with this bike could be made to do something close to that performance? What part of the bike was rattling when you go over bumps (fenders, kickstand, other)?
Check out my other videos with the 196cc. Ya, the fenders where rattling
Why a gx160 head? I have a gx160 me and my buddy just ungoverned and threw on a mega moto 80 frame i had and i was looking for ways to make it go faster and more torque. Other then governor removal, cheap intake carb kit, new clutch and #35 chain its all stock. It seems to have a ton of compression it's incredibly hard to pull but usually starts first pull.
Bro that thing is moving good
Hey bro! I love your videos and you seem very knowledgeable. Could I ask for some help? I just recently got into mini bikes, I wasn’t allowed to have “dangerous things” like this growing up so I’m not sure of some things. If I change from the stock engine to a predator 212 will the jack shaft plate work? Also will I need a new clutch? What clutch, if so, would you suggest!? Thank you in advance
Yes, the plate will work. You need a 3/4 shaft #41/420/40 chain clutch. Something like this www.gopowersports.com/10t-3-4-bore-centrifugal-clutch-41-420/
If you get a predator 212cc motor to put on it get a torque unit and a performance muffler remove the Governor from the motor and it'll top out at 60 mph fast and fun
Great video!!!!
Thanks! Check out the CT200O-EX playlist th-cam.com/video/Up6TpJiopEo/w-d-xo.html
Just...DAMN!
I noticed you put to washers on before clutch. What size were those? Did you put the stock chains together? Or buy a new chain? And what length of chain do I need for it? Sorry for all the questions.
They are 3/4 washers. It is stock chain spliced together. If you Use a chain breaker and you can splice any length you need.
I got 55 out of the ducar but was running the 10/53 and I got a few extra pounds got my 228 Tillotson apart tapping the block way to much crank case pressure at 9k rpm so much it blew my rear oil plug out on some test hits
Hey man can you make a bike dedicated to wheelies? Wanting to know the best setup and bike for em.
Great video brother
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos with this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Sweet!
I have the exact same bike I wanna buy the 212 tomorrow at harbor freight what else (piping) did you buy
Appreciate the good vid! Hey, was it a straight chain set up? 😅
Thanks! Yes, it was a straight chain. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. There have been many different combos on this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Man I wish I was good with my hands like this
Fantastic videos. Question if I mount DuroMax XP18HP 440cc. Which you think will be the speed on it. And do you think it’s good engine. Do you think will fit COLEMAN CT200U
Thanks, Ya, I think it will fit. With all that torque you should be able to put a high gear on it.
I'm having issues with my chain coming off alot and I've now broke and lost my 2nd chain I've replaced any ideas on how I may be able to fix that and what chain would you best recommend that will work best?
Do u half to change out ur clutch often with the straight chain 50 tooth? Cause usually when I have this set up especially with the 50 tooth my clutch usually goes out with in a month or so
Mine lasted for a while longer only because I'M light weight. It is definitely better with the 60 tooth for longevity. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist if you haven't already. I have tried many different combos with this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Im impressed
Thanks!
Great video man you commented back on one of my comments super fast got another sub! Keep up the good videos and you will be a hit one day on TH-cam
Thanks! Maybe, but if not that's ok too. It's fun doing the videos.
Did you look at used 200 (+-) cc engines from the Big Four?
Bro you just saved me a ton of time dude. I just got a Chikuni and I haven't been able to figure out how to load it. Smfh
Glad I could help
You was out.Great job.
Got myself a ct200u ex today and also picked up a 224cc and recommend mods to it such as clutch,intake and header a good start for the 224 ? Did a top speed on the 196cc and I topped at 25mph haha
Check out the 224 playist for combos. I really like the 224 with a 265 cam. Video coming out soon.
Having an issue finding a clutch that will fit and work on my predator 212 it's not from harbor freight got it off of monster scooter moto I'm sure they get there engines from harbor freight but I'm having a issue finding a clutch that will fit and work any suggestions or ideas on clutches that should or will work
hey i rode the same bike yesterday but it had enginge swap for race bike and a bunch of mods do you think they are worth buying without parts just taking the governer off?
It depends on what you want. Or how fast you want to go. It's worth buying if you can get a good deal.
But just a stock engine with the governor removed is fun too.
Damn Good Video. Build Em N Ship Them. I Hav3 500-700$ $ bucks Rn for something like that that’s the most I can budget in with all the other stuff I have.
Thanks!
Hey Man U did any clearance for the cam and stuff ? Or it all jus fit in
The 265 cam dropped right in.
Non hemi wont need any clearance with a 265, the hemi is hit and miss
I have the same bike with a mikuni and header my best speed is 35 mph what do you do different ❓
Better to straight chain mine or torque converter swap vs originally jockey clutch
So what are the bearings on those rated at I can imagine they're not for that speed I'm just curious if you've upgraded them or not
Stock bearings
Keep them greased lubed up
Did you get the aftermarket carb on amazon? I have a minibike with a predator and want to get a custom exhaust and more performance carburetor for mine.
Links are in the description
I have a 212 also and I’m wondering did you eliminate the governor in it or just put a 212 in with a direct chain?
I have done many engine and gear set ups on this bike. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
I used the clutch from the jack shaft as a straight chain set up and destroyed the chain the same day. Got any tips that might help prevent another broken chain?
Yes, I haven't had a problem. I think maybe the reason is I used 40 chain on that bike . Its a little beefier chain over the 41
Got rid of my stock motor wonder what my Tilliston stage one would do with a straight chain
Mine vibrates like crazy at top speed with stock engine. How do you get around that?
I've watched a few vids, he builds the engines but sticks with a centrifugal clutch. A TC does a lot to boost the acceleration without losing top end. Even a stock 212 with a TC is better imo then a mild mod 212 with a centrifugal clutch. I suppose one could argue that a centrifugal clutch is fine for the street. Offroad, you definitely want a TC.
Check out the mega Moto and Coleman playlists for many bikes with a torque converter. th-cam.com/video/i-aHzA_lQIE/w-d-xo.html
Do you plug the valve cover breather? I’d rather do that then run a catch can. I was told it can contaminate your oil faster, but if you do frequent oil changes does it matter? What did you plug it with?? Love the vids 👍🏻
It doesn't throw oil . I left it open off of the valve cover.
10t on the clutch, and 50t on the rear wheel ... how tall are the tires?
And, how often do you oil the clutch bearing? Thank you Professor Black66!
I oil it every other ride or so . I hate getting out there and the bushing runs dry.
@@Black66 ... I figured it must be routine ... you're testing its limits too ... but don't think I've seen you lube it, yet. Did you ever experiment with different spring weights? Thanks - you make great video.
Could you send me in the directions for the part that your connecting the throttle cable to please. The part that your had to solder. Thanks so much!
Hey Black, I watch all your videos. Can you tell me what muffler you have on this bike? Thanks
Thanks! It has a header pipe with a Exhaust Trumpet . Here is the link for the header www.gopowersports.com/header-pipe-coleman-ct200s-mega-moto-212-tillotson-225/
Great video. What do you use to get GPS speed and overlay on video?
Thanks! I use a dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and digiHUD on the phone for top speed. Camera GoPro software for the overlay, Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more combos on this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Faster than the torch converter kit?
Woooohooohooooo brother this is insane 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 . Love your videos man i wish to see more. Merry xmas to you and family mate .
Just tell me if we could import that engine to mauritius island and how much it would cost please
Thanks! lol
Black66, I think I saw recently where you put a hub on a ct200uex that will allow you to change the sprocket without pulling the axle every time too switch sprockets, what was that hub❓ pls. advise. Thank you. ✌🏻
Maybe this was the video you are talking about? th-cam.com/video/JIHHuNigHy4/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 yes this is the one thank you, will it fit a ct200uex or is it different? Where can I find one.? Thank you.
Does the life span shorten without the Jack shaft when running the straight chain? Which one has better longevity overall between straight chain, jackshaft and torque converter?
I think the one with fewer parts to break is the one that should last the longest.
The torque converter helps the driveshaft and engine from loading up on torque. Basically a straight chain would wear out your motor faster
@@Dingbobber maybe but if you up size the rear sprocket it helps with the load
I just ordered the mini bike. Can i get an EXACT parts list on what you have in yours?
Is the Coleman mini bike like you got automatic
what size sprockets are you using? also does the vm22 need jetted and is the head a direct bolt on?
We have used many different sprockets on this set up. Check out the Coleman playlist. The VM22 can be directly bolted on but could use a tune to get optimal performance. Check out the VM22 tuning videos. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/MnQvIlFX8hM/w-d-xo.html
What clutch do you recommend using with the predator 212 when straight chain? Thanks
This is a good one for the #40/41/420 chain www.amazon.com/Bravex-Centrifugal-Clutch-Tooth-Chain/dp/B07HFXHNNY/ref=sr_1_14?crid=2084QFKAMRAQA&keywords=mini+bike+clutch+for+predator+212&qid=1649971577&sprefix=minibike+clutch%2Caps%2C314&sr=8-14
I’m building one because of you
Ah sweet! Your gonna love that bike!
@Whoop!
I have two of these bikes and I'm buying a 3rd, they are just so fun
They are fun bikes! Stock or modified, they are all fun. Check out the video coming out on Saturday with the CT200U-EX. Thanks for watching!
@@Black66 I plan on watching all of your videos you make very informative videos and I plan on subscribing the hurricane just hit in Florida and we have nothing to do but Moder bikes me and my son found your Channel
@@Black66 do you happen to have a video that explains how far you can push these bikes before they break or what mods need to be done if you make a certain mod thanks
Do you have the stock key for the flywheel?
Would the straight chain be ok with hills and dirt also is this a hemi or a non hemi
No, a straight chain is good for highway use but doesn't work well on hills. This build is a non-hemi. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike. th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Dude! You are like Burt Munro. You're gonna have to get that thing to the Salt Flats to really open her up!
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. We got it to run faster th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
If I did this to mine I would go to jail
How are the brakes holding up with the increase in speed?
Surprisingly ok, but then again I'm using a lot of road to slow down. It wouldn't hurt to upgrade to a disc or something
I’m putting together a bike for cruising, I was curious what size back sprocket you used I didn’t see it in the description.
I have used many different combos on this bike. I think in this video I was using the 50 rear sprocket. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more combos. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 gotcha thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I’ve been watching all your videos for ideas lol. I got 2 of the Ct200u-ex’s , the one I’m going to put a straight chain with a predator ghost engine and the other I’m putting together a slightly built predator 212 hemi for it. Really excited to see how they compare on the CT200U-Exs.
What's the length of the Chain u used I want to do it on my bt200x
What tools did you need?
How do I remove the stock long bolts from the manifold so I can install my new carb where it bolts into the manifold
Jam two nuts together on the bolts or use a big pair of vise grips. I do it in quite a few of the videos on the channel. I do it in this video. Check it out th-cam.com/video/Cp9yigHTeO4/w-d-xo.html
@@Black66 Thank you so much!!!
I’d love to know what rpm you turned.
BEAST MODE ACTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!GoDSPeeD
Yes!
60 mph on that mini bike . You gotta be nuts to go that fast
Check out this bike. It went over 70 MPH th-cam.com/video/xV8i59aGUao/w-d-xo.html
Do you have a billet rod or no n do you ride wide open for short or long distance n every day
yes,it has a billet rod and flywheel. No, its not wide open all the time. The bikes combo is
is always changing. Check out the playlist th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
That was impressive. But bet that was scary on them stock nobby tires. That would really fly with some street rubber. I have the same bike. And i know those tires hate the street 🤣 my brother never rode one of these. Jumped on mine went flying down the street,and couldn't make the corner 🤣 ended up going straight through someone's yard🤣🤣
That is awesome! sounds like you guys have fun with your bikes. Ya, some street tires would be a good upgrade for the street for sure.
Where did you get that stand work station?
Hey brother. Where did you get your chain pin breaker ? I really like yours. Do you have a link where I can get that one? Thanks!
I picked it up at ARC. here is the link www.arcracing.com/3720-arc-35-chain-break/
Here is the link for the 40-chain breaker www.ebay.com/itm/174749684627
@@Black66 thanks just ordered!
Are you able to sell the motor that you made because I don’t know how to build it?
☺60 mph. Mucho gooooood
Until you fall off....😳
Could you tell me what gearing this bike had? I cant get the link for the clutch to work. Thanks much.
It was a 5 to 1 ratio . 10 on the clutch and 50 on the rear sprocket . I fixed the link for the clutch .
@@Black66 thank you for the reply! I appreciate it!!
Ever experience death wobble in a minibike? Just wondering a what point they require steering dampeners.
Not yet. They have been pretty stable so far. It wouldn't hurt to have a stabilizer just in case
I have a stock hemi 212 can I still go 60 mph?
Where can i get handlebar bushings for my baja warrior
Got the same mini bike for free and put a cr125 engine on it it’s a monster now
i got a baja warrior frame, wit the 50 sprocket, how you get it to hit 60? i only hit 44
It was using a straight chain in this video. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist . We have tried many different combos on this bike .th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
did you ever do a video with the predator 212 with a torque converter installed?
Yes, check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike th-cam.com/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/w-d-xo.html
Is the throttle sticking ?
What about a predator v twin 22hp motor?? 🤔
What is the best gearing on the 200 ex straight chain for top speed?
I would say it depends on the weight of the rider . If you are a small rider you can get away with the stock rear 50 tooth but with a heavier rider I would use a 60 tooth sprocket. With a small sprocket ,heavy rider and the tall tires it is hard on the clutch . Also with the 60 tooth it gets the engine more into its RPM band like in this video...th-cam.com/video/avdJE34nFIU/w-d-xo.html
How to you run no torque converter? Do you just take it off then run straight chain?
Yes , check out the video playlist on this bike . It shows the different combos I used so far on this bike