WASP DRONE Broadhead Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2022
- This is a test of the 100 gr 3 blade Wasp Drone broadhead. Use the Stay Sharp Guide "Replaceable Blade" model to sharpen them.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Drone posted in parenthesis as well.
Total Drone Score: 78.86 = 7 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16. The Drone will also receive 1 bonus point for extra forgiving flight.
2. Cut Size (20%, 12.84 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.69" = 4.73 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.69" = 4.73 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.125" = 3.38 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 19.15 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 175 grs = 10/10= 9 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +25 grs = 9.5/10 = 8.55 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (8/10=1.6 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 16.34 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8" = 8 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(67 layers=8.61 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 13 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (2/10 = 1 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (NA = 0 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: No Bonus Points
+1 pt for extra forgiving flight
TOTAL SCORE: 78.86 pts = 7 Golden Arrows
Price of Drone: $13/head
Special Notes:
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My buddies and I were in Elk camp where we sometimes mess with each other buy "shooting fletches" He lost the coin toss at 30 yards shot one of his hunting arrows into target where I then shoot to cut his fletches then next one tries to cut mine ect. Being so far out in backcountry with limited arrows it puts stressors on your shots.
I had a Wasp sharp shooter on this day that sheared not just his fletching but his Shuttle T blade right off with the only damage to the Wasp was broken bleeder vein. Maybe a fluke but he doesn't shoot Shuttle T anymore because of that and he wont "Shoot for veins" anymore either. I have used Boss, Sharpshooters, Drones and Hammers as well as others I have hunted with and seen zero issues. Those Chisel tips are VERY good and super easy to tune. If anyone will abuse a broadhead its me, i still am shooting them.. Just not at steel
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Was going to use these in elk, but missed my target during a shooting session and it bent the ferrule on the drone. I’ve killed elk and deer with their hi tech hammer 85 grain head. I have no doubt the drone would work and work well. but as you said there are better heads out there. That said, Wasp makes the absolute best trocar tip on the market. It is needle sharp. I wish other companies would get their trocar tips as sharp as Wasp. I liked the Drone and it flew well, but a slick trick will do the same thing and stay together.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
i was dissapointed in them ive always wondered how good those are and now i know!..thanks
Thanks for watching.
Ty for another great video 🏆 I really like the way the durability testing is done! 🎯🎯🎯
Thank you!
I've been hunting with the drones for the past couple years. Take whitetail just fine. With that said, I'm looking to switch to a different fixed blade broadhead likely next season.
Thanks for sharing that.
Good test. I think it turned out about the way I expected. You summed it up best when you said that it’s a pretty good head overall but for what it is there’s much better out there.
Thank you
Good job
Thank you
I remember when first replaceable blades came out and .020 was the standard. I had .020 blades shear off on bones and only 1 or 2 blades would actually make it into the body cavity. Then several companies came out with .027 and that was considered heavy duty...! They were definitely tougher.
Thanks for sharing that.
A category I would suggest adding is current PRICE/VALUE.
True, wasp I think can be as low as $5.75 a head I've seen, but if you only shoot 100grs I don't see why ya wouldn't go with the deepowers
@@whodoyouthinkiam210 Or the Cheaper Allen/Chinese identical Copy is less per head.
@@caseysmith544 but with those you're really rolling the dice with durability, especially with the Allen's, as they have the same retention system as this video but worse
I record the price of every head in the score sheet. I have also considered making that a part of the rating, but have decided against it, just cause everyone's budget is so different. I figure I'll rate the heads on performance alone, then list the price--and each viewer can make their own judgment on the Value. But thank you for the comment.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yes what people want/are willing to spend and what people can actually spend.
My favorite broadhead. I put a drone through a bull moose lengthways at 45 yards. Dead in 50 yards.
Do you believe that any other bh wouldn't have resulted in the same outcome? If so, why?
I do, but I just like the drone. It performs well for me.
Good to hear.
old school style head for sure. I pretty much knew how this test was going to go before you got started. the blades design combined with the O ring retention just are not up to snuff when compared to heads made today.
Yep. thanks Chris.
Dang bro! That was revealing! As always John is very nice how he states he doesn't like the performance. Steering clear.
Thank you.
I would love to see a test of the wasp z force
Thank you. Would love to test those. If someone donates them I’ll gladly do it.
boy, you called that blade retention system out. that is great, it makes manufactures improve on their weaknesses. wasp needs to get in the one piece, all steel game like all the other big players have.
I really like Wasp and have used them on animals over the years...but this design could use improvement.
Love these tests. I got a killer deal on some drones a few years back and they've performed very well on animals. That said, I wouldn't buy more today given there are better options in a similar price point.
Thanks for sharing that.
U should try and redo the toxic brodhead with the new way you do testing
Yeah, I'd like to...if someone would send me a pack, I will.
I've used the Drone the past four seasons and taken seven or eight deer with it. I was kind of surprised that it didn't do better in the durability test. I've only had one instance of the head losing a (one single) blade. It was a quartering away pass through that went through the scapula, and the deer was still down within 100 yards.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
mmr. awesome .
Thank you
I sure wasn't expecting that.. good video. I wonder if they improved that over the yrs
This was a new pack...
I shot this head in the 125 variant for years with good success on elk, deer, and bear, but switched due to the blades getting mangled after impact with bone.
Thanks for sharing that.
You called it. Hey John, have ever thought about designing your own heads ? With all your knowledge I bet you could come up with some real killers!! Great testing as alway. ✌🏻👊🏻
Haha. I have considered it. Too busy being a Pastor now to do that. But I do give advice to a number of different manufacturers.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures John if I remember right you had once posted a link or page where your services could be viewed. Is that a option?
Love your channel anyway you could do a battle of the heavy weight broadheads for a traditional archery guy like a comparison of broadheads all over 125 gr
Thank you. I did a bunch of those vids a few years ago when I was first starting. Search my channel for Broadhead Battle Heavyweight....Light Heavyweight...Super Heavyweight...I've also done individual tests on heads from 175 grs to 300 grs--Big Game 2, Big Game 3, Afflictor Fixed, Steel Force Trad 2 blade, Kayuga Gen 2 Pilot Cut...to name a few.
This head has been around for some time , it has been known as the one and done head. The price point is great for guys just starting out. These have killed plenty of deer
Yep. thanks
When hunting your not shooting into steel plates
Thanks for watching & commenting. I understand that. I am also a very avid bowhunter and have taken hundreds of animals over the years with my bow. When a head does very well in my testing, I also try to use it in the field as well, so I can test it in that way also.
The purpose of my testing is to provide comparative data points, so one broadhead's performance can be compared to another. Some of the testing is designed to show the outer limits of what a broadhead can and cannot handle.
If one head can keep its edge while going thru steel plate, and another cannot, all other things equal, then I would want to use the one that can handle it. Same with the MDF testing and the Concrete testing.
It doesn't mean a broadhead is a failure if it doesn't do well in those tests. In my overall scoring system, those tests receive little weight. But it is just good info to know, when making a choice for which head to entrust your hard earned shot on an animal too.
That being said, I've seen heads get more damaged by hitting heavy bone on hunts than they do when hitting steel plate or cinder block. So that extreme durability testing does have its merits.
But like I say in every video: "You check out the score sheet and see how this head performed in the areas that matter to you the most." If the durability testing doesn't matter to you, then just overlook those 10 seconds of video :)
Thank you for watching and for the comment.
This is why the 22 gauge metal test is necessary .
It can reveal weaknesses...and a hard hit at an angle on bone can cause more damage than the steel plate.
In my experience these are the best flying heads I've ever used. To bad they weren't as durable as GR's, the exodus, and other similar heads.
They do fly well.
If it went to the concrete test it would of probably stuck with that chisel tip the way it is.
Very well might have.
I Guarantee it would as well as Wasp has a Drone imbedded in their basement concrete wall when initially testing it when I toured their factory (old theater). Really cool place!
I have some spare blades for this I thought would work with my Chinese exact copy of Allen Style head, in black one of these lost a blade that did not work if you want them. I if I can I will send you these along with some of the two types of broadhead I have but new direct from Amazon, a small game 100 grain head and the 100 grain Allen Style Wasp Drone head.
I ended up getting some more heads of same type of Chinese, to use the blades but in a color Green they use for the shaft that for some reason is way shiny unlike the black, not what one wants when shooting as the glimmer from sun can give you away before releasing the arrow with the green also a kind of ugly lighter green color, so I would not use it unless I had to. The red, blue, sometimes orange from some sellers, goldenrod/yellow, or even the silver no color like the Allen I would use like I have like the black and seeing other people comment, the green and obviously silver tend to be the most reflective and have with the green more then silver given away their position because they thought all colors were not as shiny as the no color silver.
Thanks for sharing that.
We don't hunt steel plates
Thanks for watching & commenting. I understand that. I am also a very avid bowhunter and have taken hundreds of animals over the years with my bow. When a head does very well in my testing, I also try to use it in the field as well, so I can test it in that way also.
The purpose of my testing is to provide comparative data points, so one broadhead's performance can be compared to another. Some of the testing is designed to show the outer limits of what a broadhead can and cannot handle.
If one head can keep its edge while going thru steel plate, and another cannot, all other things equal, then I would want to use the one that can handle it. Same with the MDF testing and the Concrete testing.
It doesn't mean a broadhead is a failure if it doesn't do well in those tests. In my overall scoring system, those tests receive little weight. But it is just good info to know, when making a choice for which head to entrust your hard earned shot on an animal too.
That being said, I've seen heads get more damaged by hitting heavy bone on hunts than they do when hitting steel plate or cinder block. So that extreme durability testing does have its merits.
But like I say in every video: "You check out the score sheet and see how this head performed in the areas that matter to you the most." If the durability testing doesn't matter to you, then just overlook those 10 seconds of video :)
Thank you for watching and for the comment.
I figured the all steel design would hold up a little better, the wasp havalon held up a lot better, since they’re similar design, do you think it the blade thickness that made the difference
Yeah.
Before I even watch I'm going to predict edge chatter and potentially loose blades because of the steel retention washer at the collar.
Called it.... I had these and liked them but they are 1 and done heads.
:)
Bummed I didn't get to see the concrete block test. Was wondering how that tip would hold up..
I'm guessing it would hold up well.
This would likely have been a competitive head in the 90's, but quality and design across the industry have improved so much that it doesn't seem this one is worth considering today.
The Wasp Drone Head did not come out until the very late 1990's at the earliest as Muzzy held the patent on the design/shape for the now classic 100/125 grain designs since they came out with them.
Yeah...
If I send you some foam-tipped “combat archery” heads will you run through all the same tests with a deadpan presentation?
That's funny. I don't know anything about those. Are they like Nerf tips?
@@LuskArcheryAdventures they are for a “sport” that didn’t really take off.. like paintball but with recurve bows.
Just as you (and I) thought it would perform. + it's a small cut at 1 1/8'', and even though it penetrated well, a lot of that penetration is just the long tip. I'd imagine it wont do well against bone. This 1 is just not for me
Yep. thanks Frank.
So basically, they're not good for hunting deer with steel bone structures?
I understand that. But the tests are designed to show the outer limits of what a head can and cannot handle. If one head can handle steel or concrete and another cannot, all other things equal, I know which one I'd want on the end of my arrow. And honestly, angled shots on heavy bone/joint can be much more destructive to a head than straight shots on steel plate or cinder block.
Is that lip on the blade the same as A Muzzy three blade?
Nope. Smaller & thinner here.
I wish you'd share your spreadsheet link in the description in each video so we can go back and look at it. Btw those annihilator xl 150gr I got for my crossbow fly awful. 4" groups at 20 yards. I think I'll go with mechanicals even though I really really don't want to. Accuracy is more important to me. Idk why I had such bad luck. All the reviews I've seen everyone says they are very accurate.
I do have a spread sheet for 2020 and 2021--posted at the last vids of those years. I'm working on one for 2022 but am behind in updating it. The Annihilators fly extremely well for me out of my compound.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I talked to them and they said the xl's do have issues with faster shooting crossbows. We clocked mine at 390fps. I wish they'd said that on their website before spending ove $80 after tax and shipping. Think I might just get the new 2.0 SEVR. The ones made for crossbows. They look really nice with a good design
Did you test 265 grain tough head yet. I would like to see that one
I've not. I prefer not testing heads over 200 gr, cause I have to change my tune sometimes.
Great test, don't hit the shoulder blade
Yep.
I don't feel with the materials we have today, and designs, there is no excuse for it being made the way it is. Make something durable wide a bigger cut and people with buy it.
Thanks for the comment.