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Just remember that Savage was a caring, selfless, brave soul. The Nightsisters warped his mind into a monster. Quick take that some folks may not like: Grievous and his troops killing them all may not have been so bad.
BUT I still love what they did with his character. Just wish he lived longer and maybe those caring, selfless, brave attributes could’ve came back to him.
@@JournaloftheWhills Now THAT would’ve been cool, after a while he breaks the spell and becomes some kind of gray force wielder. With tons of wisdom and kindness, aswell as strength and courage.
Keep in mind, Savage wasn’t the same person anymore after what they did to him. His innocence was stripped away and he was purposely transformed into a monster. I highly doubt Savage even recognized him.
@@starwarsscenes417 there’s even an entire book series on Dooku and Qui-gons adventures. Did you know Qui-gon had to slay Dookus former padawan because he fell to the dark side? It was this event that made Qui-gon a Knight.
Dooku is the most encouraging sith lord I've ever heard. Most of the time they're like "You're pathetic!" but nah, Dooku's like "Nono, you're close. We just gotta workshop it."
@@AnonymousSadmous Oh that's true! I never noticed, but now that I think about it he never did get the natural edgelord makeup or the orange eyes. And yet he can use Force Lightning, which is considered one of the most powerful Dark Side-only abilities.
@@Thorne-In-Your-Side There are lore videos out there detailing how Darth Tyrannus never fully committed to the Dark Side as he viewed Sith force abilities, Sith Code/philosophy, and the Sith order in and of itself as a tool to advance his political agenda. This explains how he whips out Force Lightning repeatedly yet is rarely seen with Sith Eyes, only fully embracing the Dark Side when needed in the moment. He changed his mindset after leaving the Jedi order and probably would've been a stronger Sith Lord had Darth Sidious recruited him while he was still in the order.
For sure especially compared to Dooku and Ventress. I think Savage could’ve lived longer if Maul decided to work together and train Savage instead of being caught up on the whole “Master and Apprentice” thing tho
I like how Count Dooku basically trained Savage like an open world style video game quest… _“Ok Savage, kill the Jedi at this specific temple.”_ _“Oh, you did it? Good, now for the next mission…”_
Savage survived attacks from Dooku, Obi-wan, Ventress, and Anakin. Being killed by sidious himself because he saw you as a threat is an honor and awesome. Savage is top 3 clone wars character for me
@@bluejay420 My fault, youtube posted my comment on a totally different video as a reply to you for some reason idk lol But in response to your original comment, you're totally right. He survived against major characters and killed off many other "side" characters. It was only a matter of time before he became exceedingly strong if he didn't get his life cut short.
@@JournaloftheWhills my only question is was he always force sensitive but mother talzin enhanced his strength or did he have no force abilities and she was powerful enough to give them to him? 👀
@@bluejay420 And if she was able to give him force abilities, ol palpy boy should've just asked for her help in making force sensitive clones of himself instead of having to kidnap baby yoda, unless her force giving magic would only work on their own species.
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I also appreciate Savage because it demonstrates how powerful Maul is at this point. Maul easily beat Savage in a few seconds and we see Savage kill several jedi on screen so I think they were very smart with this.
@@mydude8731 the power levels were handled extremely well though. Since savage is the epitome of raw unbridled power (which I believe is one reason they gave him a blade instead of a saber at first). His ability to also soak multiple hits that would kill 99% of those who he went up against. Had they shown more of savage dueling or decided to kill him off differently I truly think he could’ve held his own against the likes of dooku.
Sidious f**ked everyone over. He robbed Anakin of a happy life with Padme, Ruined Grievous's life in that shuttle crash, and the clones and jedi. Tho ironically, the clones wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Sidious...
@@sougotokiwa8439 also, technically Anakin wouldn’t meet padmé if it weren’t for palpatine as (in legends) he was the one that encouraged her parents to nominate her for the elections to defeat King Veruna who had betrayed him and plagueis
Encouraged dooku who just wanted to escape the hypocrisy of the Jedi order to become a Sith Lord Helped corrupt politicians like mad amenda and orn free taa stay in power And he screwed all her all the separatist leaders as well. Creamy Sheev really was one of the worst people in Star Wars ever right up there with several Sith Lords in legends I can’t name right now cause I can’t remember I’ll find the names later
I never realized just how powerful savage really is, he was defeated only by kenobi a jedi master, maul his master, and palpatine one of the strongest beings in the galaxy, not to mention his win lose ratio against kenobi is 2 - 1, had maul completed his training he might've become one of the most powerful siths
I mean if maul had been fully trained and not just tool trained everyone woulda been pwned too, he couldn't fully train savage as he still wasn't fully trained
@@errorcringyname4044 I don't think there is a whole Sith Curriculum that anyone should know. I think mastery to the Sith is just surpassing your own Master. Yes its true Maul isn't nearly as strong as Palatine, but you have to admit that being able to kill multiple Jedi Knights and Masters makes more than strong enough to be considered a Sith Lord.
@@grievous8475 I’m pretty sure it was either Savage or Krells lightsaber which started the whole not all lightsabers sound the same thing that Disney continued with.
I'm watching clone wars for the first time, and the last episode I watched was the first one Savage was in. My first reaction to him Killin his brother was "How tf do people think this is a kid's show??"
Savage Opress was an underrated character and while his death scene was well written, it’s sad how he died thinking he’d failed Darth Maul as an apprentice
I wish they made Savage live and appear in the Clone Wars finale with more training and him also appearing in Solo in the cameo with Maul and being in Rebels with Maul too.
I always assume it was the real him speaking in his final sentence. "I was never you." Admiting he never was the hateful killing machine that maul though he was and wanted.
For as good as Savage was and could have been to surpass Maul would take an insane amount of time I'm not saying he couldn't but that would be a hell of a task
@@enigma_offixial I dont think it would have taken an insane amount of time. Time was needed sure, but Savage was stronger and faster than Maul while Maul was more adeptly trained and in tune with the dark side. Savage was already naturally gifted, but being magically enhanced made him close to unstoppable if given proper time to train considering he's one of the few beings in the galaxy to take dozens of blaster bolts and just shrug it off.
@@tazkannon7403 Mather Talzin could overpower Sidious with her magic lighting as well, it took Sidious + Dooku to stalemate her lighting (she was stabbed in the rear while stalemeated). Keep in mind, Dooku was around equal to Yoda with the force (just lacked the Stamina).
I love how Savage's compassion for his brothers connects with Maul. He is driven by so much hate, but still connects with his brother and mourns his death. Savage was used by Ventress and Dooku to do their dirty work, but Maul always had his back. In a species, where the males are treated and reduced to such low numbers, who else can you rely on but your brothers?
I think that might be why he was less powerful against obi wan and The Senate. He was fighting with love for his brother in his heart, which weakened the dark side powers he had relied on until then.
in the beginning savage wanted power, so he went to maul. as he connected with maul, all he saw in savage was an apprentice. but what savage saw in maul, was a brother. savage is a victim
Man, it's sad seeing pre-transformation Savage compared to how he became later. :( He may have been a less lethal force, but he was more tactiful, observant and had a very caring personality. Then Mother Talzin simply turned him into a violent, berserking monster. A mere shadow of his former self. All power and little brain and heart. I think his time spent with Maul may have been the only thing that brought back _some_ of his more fraternal side, even if just little enough for Maul to notice.
perfectly said. it also breaks my heart when Maul decides to only treat savage as his apprentice. Savage really just wanted a brother, someone who wouldn't turn on him, and Maul, basically knowing nothing but the way of the sith, is either unable or unwilling to treat Savage as his equal. I think Maul did love Savage but want to admit it to himself, because he was so absorbed with hatred and lust for power. really heartbreaking
Savage reminds me heavily of Angron from 40k. He was once a kind-hearted gladiator, who was warped into a killing machine by others, and forced to kill the person closest to him. He became a hulking rage-addled monster, and merely a shell of his former self.
Maul was the perfect master for Savage Opress and both are completely driven by hate. I also loved how Maul was brought back. He was not well shown in the Phantom Menace with only 5 minutes of screen time
"LEAVE ME ALONE!" You know you're annoying when even Savage tries to get away from you. Usually he just kills you, but not for (SpongeBob) I mean the Anacondian
I always felt bad for the king of Toydaria. He was just trying to do what was best for his people, but was also moral about it. He didn't deserve that.
"I'm not like you, I never was," this right here shows how twisted Talzen made Savage as a sith, in his final moments he reverted to his caring self that didn't hate others so much as want to protect those close to him
26:38 But I see your point. Because he was raised on the Rule of Two, he can only see himself having a relationship with his brother based on being his teacher. It's only when Savage is killed that he drops it and talks to him as family, as Savage once did with Feral.
@@amvcentral9198 he acknowledged savage *as a brother* but not really his brother. Because it’s shown savage thought he was the last (of something, don’t remember, sorry), before he found out about maul.
@@wd3185 But Maul didn't follow the rule well. That's why Sidious wanted to end his reign because the history of the sith would have been repeated and they would have been rivals. The can be and only two siths, no more no less.
His story is especially tragic when you consider that, unlike most other characters, he really didn't have a choice in who he became. His very soul was altered by the night sisters, unlike someone like anakin who still had somewhat of a choice with their actions.
Tbf a handful didnt have a choice. Maul didnt have a choice either, but being raised like that makes it hard to change your ways after being free to make his own choices
The most nerfed character in Star Wars history. Kills a master and apprentice without a lightsaber, goes toe to toe with Anakin and Obi Wan twice, breaks dookus force wall, uses retribution (Anakins ultimate ability from BF2) disarms the defensive master Kenobi, kills his second jedi master (and she was a council member) and then loses his arm and uses zero of his skill speed and strength vs sidious. I’m not saying he would ever beat sidious but no way that the savage from season 3/4 would go down that quickly
And this Savage that fought Sidious should be more experienced and stronger. I guess they made him too overpowered in season 3 and 4 and decreased his power. He wasn't handled well as a character at all.
I think something to consider is that Savage relies a lot on his strength and physical ability and Sidious through force augmentation is stronger than him. For the first time he can’t overpower an enemy and he’s shown getting his strikes repelled and his stamina stolen from how hard he’s swinging. He’s not worst or sloppier than before per say. Just his greatest strength doesn’t work against this opponent
Savage and Maul are the proof that not all the dark side users are completely evil. A lot of times in the show we can se that they truly cared about each other.
That kind of caring and empathy is not what Sidious would approved. Even when Maul survived, he would have never taken him back not.because he was replaced but because he was becoming weak.
@@janelleoritz8976 In legends savage is older but in canon he is a few years younger than maul, and since feral has a high voice and smaller horns than most other night brother it would stand to reason he is probably around 18-20
That’s probably why they killed him off to be honest lol. Imagine a clone with PTSD, he’d be a perfect candidate to show to the senate that the clones were just as sentient and feeling (if not more so than some of them)
11:25 did he just take 4 laser cannon blasts to the back and not feel a thing? and then just casually takes several more blasts to the back and still not die? bruh moment. also, the fact that the only one who could not only repel him and his lightsaber but also shove him backward enough to stumble him was Darth Sidious
@@JournaloftheWhills no I would _never_ do that... sometimes it's just nice to see the look on people's faces when their best isn't enough :) (and ty for the heart)
Savage Oppress' voice actor Clancy Brown is awesome. Clancy Brown has done the voices of Lex Luthor, Mister Krabs, the Rhino, Captain George Stacy and Taskmaster.
Savage Opress is cool for so many reasons, but one thing that people don't talk about that I love is how he's physically strong. So many Jedi and Sith and powerful with a saber of the force but like, he's also just really tough as is. Also, I love his name, but like, they really did just call him savage oppress, it's like calling a character 'Murder Fiend' (again, I really do love his name) Another thing, I also love how even though Maul puts himself in charge, the two still care for each other, it's refreshing to see Sith actually care for one and other for a change.
I never noticed this as a kid but savage is one of the most tragic characters in all of Star Wars. He had all of his agency taken from him and never asked for anything in return other than not being alone
I love how Savage’s saber has a deep, growling tone to it, like his voice does, rather than just standard lightsaber SFX like Dooku or Ventress. It fits his character well. They applied a different audio cue to Sidious’s weapons too, but those have a harsh, raspy tone more fitting for his character.
@@TheBritishGuy75 Im assuming thats in Legends... considering we saw Plo die during Order 66. Though, people did think Adi Gallia died in Order 66 (One of her species was in ROTS) and we saw what Savage did to them...
Sad how everyone calls Savage a monster, yet he began his journey as an admirable person just trying to protect his brother and serve his clan. However, the Nightsisters, Ventress and the Sith all forged him into a beast. It’s a sad story to me, he didn’t have a choice in the end, despite all the atrocities he would help commit alongside his brother Maul.
If savage reached his full potential he could of easily beat sidous, the reason why the dark lord killed him is because he seen savarge as a massive threat
palps would have made short work of the two even if they did have more time to grow as a duo. at least in a 1v1. if they unite after peaking in their power, they might destroy him. but in a 1v1 sidious would easily wipe the floor with either one of them
@@philip8498 savage had like 2 weeks of training and had a positive win ratio against Ventress, obi-wan, and Anakin. Given a couple years he could be undefeatable
Savage with barely much training could kill majority of Jedi 1v1,says alot about his potential. He understands people are stronger than him, and just wants to learn for the betterment of his ideas, which probably seem a lot less crazy than say Sidious
I feel like the Zabbraks are born sith or because the look like devils naturally go towards that side but I will say that would have been fucking awesome
@Heathen We see that he was very loyal and caring and was a good person before the night sisters corrupted him. So him becoming a Jedi might not be as far fetched as we think.
that would be very interesting. on one hand they would have nurtured his goodness that we see before he is transformed, and it would give him community and a certain degree of brotherhood, but he would struggle with the no-attachments thing, similar to anakin. He has very protective instincts and that's both good and bad for a jedi to have. I do think about it sometimes tbh
Honestly, savage has probably gone through the most brutal punishment in this entire series. From getting beat up, to getting electrocuted, to getting shot at point blank range, losing a limb and eventually getting impaled. This man has known nothing but pain.
Well I mean how about sacrificing himself to the night sisters to protect his brother only to end up killing his brother himself, has to have been some kind of subconscious reaction
21:15 This has to be one of my favorite parts of Maul's return. It kind of reflects Anakin's transformation into Vader, but instead of ripping his way off of the operating table, Maul is already thinking about how this happened to him and where he can place his anger. While Maul's goals are based on hate and rage, he reaches them through meticulous plotting and concentration of anger.
The way Savage gores that Jedi after the force throw is so brutal. Also the way that Mandalorian cuts his way through enemies with that vibroblade is so sick
Savage's story is sad, but his connection with maul is weirdly heartwarming. even after being transformed into the monster he was, a part of savage still just wanted a connection, it isn't the fact he was used that hurts hi, nor a sense of inferiority, but the fact that both dooku and ventrus betrayed him that hurt. when he learns of mauls existence, he's so driven by it, not for really anything else but that connection. and once mauls is back, he tries so hard to anything for Maul's sake. He ends up fighting Mauls once but it felt more like that was because maul for a moment reminded him of dooku and ventress and felt this would be another betrayal. His connection to Mauls is weirdly heartwarming because of that. Maul uses him, treats him like a tool sometimes. i Savage knows it, but at first the reason he puts up with it is because he hopes that connection is real. surprisingly, it is real, even though many times Maul treats him like just a good tool to use, the moments of genuine care and concern show through when savage is in peril and i think Savage himself notices it, and that's why he chooses to stay with maul. it makes his final moments even more heart breaking but sweet in a way. as he is dying he is shown without question the love Maul has for him, Mauls doesn't just continue the fight, dismiss Savage as too week to save, or run away, no Maul drops everything just to check on him and look genuinely hurt to see him dying. He gets to pass on knowing someone cared about him, and i think that's why in his final breath he doesn't hate maul for the treatment he received from him, regrets dying, but just regrets not being as strong as Maul, and even though Maul said they are Master/Apprentice not brothers, that's what Savage choses to see him as in his final moments.
He's one of those dudes where it's easier to ask who Dee Bradley Baker didn't voice, the mans everywhere in all types of shows but he does a great job so I'm not complaining
I love the feral/animalistic sounding roars and growls that Savage makes from time to time. It really fits him, both because of his name, Savage, and because of how much of a beast of a Zabrak he is.
37:45 "SAVAGE OPRESS ENTERPRISE VAST CRIMINAL EMPIRE" I don't know why I found this funny, just the way it sounded all strung and cut together like that. Lol
Who else notices that Savage seems to get weaker as a fighter as the show progresses? Like before he had no problem fist fighting Ventress (for a short time) and plowing through the Jedi and clones with his magic blade. If you see his fights from then and when he fights palps, it’s downright weird to see him move so jerky and slow. Did the magic wear off over time maybe?
Not many people know this, but the dark side has a physical toll on a siths body. When dooku had his first fight with obi wan and anakin in attack of the clone, he was incredibly powerful from the dark side. However, in revenge of the sith with his rematch, the dark side had effected his body making him slower and weaker. I think this is the case with savage, strong at first from the dark side, but his body got weaker as the series went, which explains why he was very sloppy against Palpatine.
It's possible that once he was reunited with his brother, his strength in the Dark side lessened, because he was more conflicted inside, sometimes even trying to be compassionate with Maul.
In all honesty this was dumb on Ventress' part. She should've trained Savage more and actually honed his and her own abilities in dark side powers with the night sisters. THEN send him undercover to Dooku to which then he would've been able to succeed more in his duties and thus fruther gaining favor with Dooku. By then she'd have more of a shot.
Honestly. Their whole plan to kill dooku annoys me. They could have gotten Maul first too. They could have partnered with some Jedi for the time being and agreed to split ways after. But instead they rush it and fail🤦♂️
You know, usually guys with names like 'Savage Opress' or 'Deathkill Murderboss' fall flat on their face when they fight someone their own caliber but it's refreshing to see him actually tank shit and dish out the pain, too. And against people like Obi Wan or Count Dooku, to boot!
The reason savage was more powerful in season 4 than in season 5 was because he was under dookus training who treated him like an animal without care or compassion knowing his anger was his strongest ability, he most likely overpowered obi wan and ventress because of how angry he was at seeing mauls condition. When maul started to teach him he wasnt punished for failing, he wasnt abused or belittled, maul genuinly caree about savage thus he could not train him to his full potential the way dooku did because he did not want and i quote savages words to dooku "i hate you" for his brother to hate him.
I still belive that if Savage had the proper time and training he'd be one of the strongest force users in the galaxy. He accomplished so much in so little time and I feel like it was a sign of how high his ceiling was.
The Night Sisters really are the coolest group in Star Wars. The gave us Savage who was awesome to see fight. Their magic is way more visually distinct, creative, and awesome than any force user. And any episode focusing on them was a good one on the Clone Wars.
![Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Darth Maul, Savage & Death Watch vs Bounty Hunters [1080p]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/x2qpn4ulIBE/mqdefault.jpg)
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Fun fact: Mr Krabs and Savage Oppress are voiced by the same guy
Yep
Ahoy Maul me boy
😂😂 aye aye captain
Yes my lord or *Aye aye captain*
Better fact is that the same guy also is the voice of lex Luthor
Cool
I love how every jedi attempts to kick savage in the leg but realises they shouldn't have kicked the 7 ft yellow man with horns
Then comes Kenobi who says "maybe I should just keep kicking him" lol
He prob had his bottom half exposed during fights so naturally the Jedi attack the weak spots
@@Hello-wo3rj probably?
And a lightsaber…
@@JournaloftheWhills well kenobi likes kicking 7 footers with a lightsaber
It's weird how Savage finding Maul is oddly a heartwarming story.
A heartwarming story of two brothers 💛❤️
@@JournaloftheWhills and one dead forgotten brother
@@JournaloftheWhills hahahaha
Ikr
@@jetstreamsam1992 probably
Just remember that Savage was a caring, selfless, brave soul. The Nightsisters warped his mind into a monster. Quick take that some folks may not like: Grievous and his troops killing them all may not have been so bad.
I'm glad Grievous took em out. Ventress should of never gotten a redemption arc tbh
@@deathcore6933 Yeah. What she did to Savage was more than horrible. Force him to kill his own brother...So cruel!
@@ladyazari2785 I mean, Dark Side users of all kinds aren’t exactly wholesome individuals
BUT I still love what they did with his character. Just wish he lived longer and maybe those caring, selfless, brave attributes could’ve came back to him.
@@JournaloftheWhills Now THAT would’ve been cool, after a while he breaks the spell and becomes some kind of gray force wielder. With tons of wisdom and kindness, aswell as strength and courage.
It's hilarious how fast savage oppress think people betrayed him
I guess being taken from your people, forcibly given magical steroids and brainwashed into killing your closest brother will do that to you lol
@@JournaloftheWhills you right 🤣
@@JournaloftheWhills you, you were the one who betrayed me
Maul never betrayed him
@@maxer_8219 _Might have been the only one ever. After his transformation, I mean._
I’m actually kind of depressed he had to kill his brother he did all this just to protect him then he ended up killing him himself....
Keep in mind, Savage wasn’t the same person anymore after what they did to him. His innocence was stripped away and he was purposely transformed into a monster. I highly doubt Savage even recognized him.
Take it as a lesson, don’t take magical steroids from a witch that talks with three different voices at the same time, or you’ll kill your brother
@@Loneassassin13 Well, Savage did hesitate to kill Feral.
@@JournaloftheWhills jokes on you I don’t have a brother
@@thephoenixxm4160 I like how savage fought dooku and ventress and barely escaped
well atleast savage lasted longer against sidious then some "esteemed" jedi council members
ironic, since he killed a council member as well
Bear in mind he was trained by Dooku the single greatest dualist in Star Wars aside from Plo Koon.
@Azazel Siad Lmao no where did you get your facts from?
@@starwarsscenes417 the books and comics bud. You should do some reading.
@@starwarsscenes417 there’s even an entire book series on Dooku and Qui-gons adventures. Did you know Qui-gon had to slay Dookus former padawan because he fell to the dark side? It was this event that made Qui-gon a Knight.
Dooku is the most encouraging sith lord I've ever heard.
Most of the time they're like "You're pathetic!" but nah, Dooku's like "Nono, you're close. We just gotta workshop it."
“I just gotta zap you a couple more times and you’ll get it, don’t worry”😂
He was a jedi maater at one point so
Theres a common theory he was never fully sith, lacking the grotesque appearance, etc.
@@AnonymousSadmous Oh that's true! I never noticed, but now that I think about it he never did get the natural edgelord makeup or the orange eyes. And yet he can use Force Lightning, which is considered one of the most powerful Dark Side-only abilities.
@@Thorne-In-Your-Side There are lore videos out there detailing how Darth Tyrannus never fully committed to the Dark Side as he viewed Sith force abilities, Sith Code/philosophy, and the Sith order in and of itself as a tool to advance his political agenda. This explains how he whips out Force Lightning repeatedly yet is rarely seen with Sith Eyes, only fully embracing the Dark Side when needed in the moment. He changed his mindset after leaving the Jedi order and probably would've been a stronger Sith Lord had Darth Sidious recruited him while he was still in the order.
Maul was a pretty good master to savage opress
For sure especially compared to Dooku and Ventress. I think Savage could’ve lived longer if Maul decided to work together and train Savage instead of being caught up on the whole “Master and Apprentice” thing tho
It would have truly been legendary
A failed apprentice, makes for a foolish master.
@@bigyoshi5170 Maul wasn't a failed Apprentice. In fact he could've been Sidious' main apprentice if Sidious never found Anakin.
@@dannytymus1652 nah
I like how Count Dooku basically trained Savage like an open world style video game quest…
_“Ok Savage, kill the Jedi at this specific temple.”_
_“Oh, you did it? Good, now for the next mission…”_
"There's a separatist settlement that needs your help ill mark it on your holo map"
@@Rhino-PrimeNO
Im glad im not the only one. It gave me Starkiller vibes
Savage survived attacks from Dooku, Obi-wan, Ventress, and Anakin. Being killed by sidious himself because he saw you as a threat is an honor and awesome. Savage is top 3 clone wars character for me
@@JournaloftheWhills Ventress?
@@bluejay420 My fault, youtube posted my comment on a totally different video as a reply to you for some reason idk lol
But in response to your original comment, you're totally right. He survived against major characters and killed off many other "side" characters. It was only a matter of time before he became exceedingly strong if he didn't get his life cut short.
@@JournaloftheWhills my only question is was he always force sensitive but mother talzin enhanced his strength or did he have no force abilities and she was powerful enough to give them to him? 👀
@@bluejay420 And if she was able to give him force abilities, ol palpy boy should've just asked for her help in making force sensitive clones of himself instead of having to kidnap baby yoda, unless her force giving magic would only work on their own species.
@@bluejay420 I think he was initially force sensitive (reacting to Ventresses attack in the dark) and Talzin amplified it
"I am an unworthy apprentice" that's sad man
depressing really, they need a "What If?" show for Star Wars where Savage lives longer and gets properly trained
@@JournaloftheWhills That’s not a bad idea actually. So many outcomes. (For example what if Qui-gon survived and trained Anakin instead of Obi-wan.)
@@JournaloftheWhills I would have loved to know what could've been if Savage and Maul killed Palpatine
@@imjustaguyprettysimple8572 Episodes 3-9 would’ve never happened
@@chris.3513 yeah, but what story would we get
All the jedi against Savage:
"I'll try kicking, that's a good trick!"
Apparently only Obi Wan succeeded which I think is the accumulation of all kicks that have been done by other Jedis
@@simonepazsimon7219 all the other jedi saw in the future that their kicks would save obi wans life and they chose to bet on it
God it’s like the spinning from Book of Boba Fett
if only they had some kind of space magic that they could easily use to overwhelm a much stronger opponent.
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I just want to hear Savage Opress say, "Ahoy, Spongebob me boy! Where's me lightsaber?! Arrrgh, argh, argh, argh, argh!"
“Get back to lightsaber training Mister Squidward! You’re costing me credits!”
Sounds like a potential pirate recruit for Hondo
Look brother! 62 cents!
Still can get over that mr. Krabs and starkiller were fighting side by side this whole time
I see what you did there
Same lol
I dont get it
@@rageelpkurwakuchen9428 mr krabs and savage have the same va same with star killer and maul
JLU!Lex Luthor and Smallville!Darkseid
26:08 Savage may've been a mindless brute, but even he of all people can appreciate money. Of course, being Mr. Krabs doesn't help...🤣
Lmao
I like money
I am dying of this
@@jamaphy8621 You like money
Yes
@@diegogandara8913 he likes money
I also appreciate Savage because it demonstrates how powerful Maul is at this point. Maul easily beat Savage in a few seconds and we see Savage kill several jedi on screen so I think they were very smart with this.
Those jedi were rookies
@@mydude8731 the power levels were handled extremely well though. Since savage is the epitome of raw unbridled power (which I believe is one reason they gave him a blade instead of a saber at first). His ability to also soak multiple hits that would kill 99% of those who he went up against. Had they shown more of savage dueling or decided to kill him off differently I truly think he could’ve held his own against the likes of dooku.
@@mydude8731 I didn’t know a high council member could be considered a rookie. He killed adi gallia.
@@mydude8731 He held his own agaisnt Obi-wan, Anakin, Ventress and Dooku, are those rookies too?
@@creativename3707 anakin would defeat him eaasily just look how he couldnt even counter dooku
he lost all his shit against palps who was just playing
I feel like savage had amazing character and was a great person and then they just turnt him into a mindless beast almost
Maul could've been a decent guy too if not for Sidious.
Sidious f**ked everyone over.
He robbed Anakin of a happy life with Padme, Ruined Grievous's life in that shuttle crash, and the clones and jedi.
Tho ironically, the clones wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Sidious...
@@sougotokiwa8439 also, technically Anakin wouldn’t meet padmé if it weren’t for palpatine as (in legends) he was the one that encouraged her parents to nominate her for the elections to defeat King Veruna who had betrayed him and plagueis
@@adamd4702 yes. Grandpa Palpatine is still evil.
Encouraged dooku who just wanted to escape the hypocrisy of the Jedi order to become a Sith Lord
Helped corrupt politicians like mad amenda and orn free taa stay in power
And he screwed all her all the separatist leaders as well.
Creamy Sheev really was one of the worst people in Star Wars ever right up there with several Sith Lords in legends I can’t name right now cause I can’t remember I’ll find the names later
I never realized just how powerful savage really is, he was defeated only by kenobi a jedi master, maul his master, and palpatine one of the strongest beings in the galaxy, not to mention his win lose ratio against kenobi is 2 - 1, had maul completed his training he might've become one of the most powerful siths
He wasnt a sith but yeah
I mean if maul had been fully trained and not just tool trained everyone woulda been pwned too, he couldn't fully train savage as he still wasn't fully trained
And that’s why Sidious had to take him and Maul out. And that’s also why he’s one of my favorite Star Wars characters
@@errorcringyname4044 I don't think there is a whole Sith Curriculum that anyone should know. I think mastery to the Sith is just surpassing your own Master. Yes its true Maul isn't nearly as strong as Palatine, but you have to admit that being able to kill multiple Jedi Knights and Masters makes more than strong enough to be considered a Sith Lord.
@@terengraymore4855 good point
I love his lightsaber sound. So deep and dark. It roars like the beast he is. I want one for sure
Lmk if you find a legit one I'd take one too
He uses a light club, as does ping krell, it the opposite of the shoto smaller Jedi like yoda, yaddle, and Evan piell use
Nothing against kylo rens lightsaber sound
@@Future183 savage stomps Kylo either way
@@grievous8475 I’m pretty sure it was either Savage or Krells lightsaber which started the whole not all lightsabers sound the same thing that Disney continued with.
I'm watching clone wars for the first time, and the last episode I watched was the first one Savage was in. My first reaction to him Killin his brother was "How tf do people think this is a kid's show??"
I thought the same thing! But I’m so glad they didn’t keep it completely kid friendly
I hope you didn't watch the whole vid because of spoilers... 😂
@@grandadmiralthrawn2001 I wouldn’t mind you spoiling where you and Ezra are at though, Grand Admiral Thrawn
@@JournaloftheWhills Hehe, won't tell you that 😜
Definitely not a kids show…I mean there were suicides in it lol
Savage Opress was an underrated character and while his death scene was well written, it’s sad how he died thinking he’d failed Darth Maul as an apprentice
Made me shed a tear😥
I wish they made Savage live and appear in the Clone Wars finale with more training and him also appearing in Solo in the cameo with Maul and being in Rebels with Maul too.
I always assume it was the real him speaking in his final sentence. "I was never you." Admiting he never was the hateful killing machine that maul though he was and wanted.
I don’t know about underrated
With his kind of compassion....he would have probably made a great jedi
i think about that sometimes tbh
Whether he took the path of the dark or the light, he would have been a force of nature.
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i agree
More like revan and dooku, both used both sides of the force, I can see savage doing the same
Fun fact: the magic that powered Savage up is directly taken from the Son of Mortis. Savage had the potential to surpass Maul
As a Savage fan thank you for adding facts to my already biased opinion that Savage could’ve been greater than Maul
@@JournaloftheWhills you're welcome
For as good as Savage was and could have been to surpass Maul would take an insane amount of time I'm not saying he couldn't but that would be a hell of a task
@@enigma_offixial I dont think it would have taken an insane amount of time. Time was needed sure, but Savage was stronger and faster than Maul while Maul was more adeptly trained and in tune with the dark side. Savage was already naturally gifted, but being magically enhanced made him close to unstoppable if given proper time to train considering he's one of the few beings in the galaxy to take dozens of blaster bolts and just shrug it off.
@@tazkannon7403 Mather Talzin could overpower Sidious with her magic lighting as well, it took Sidious + Dooku to stalemate her lighting (she was stabbed in the rear while stalemeated). Keep in mind, Dooku was around equal to Yoda with the force (just lacked the Stamina).
I love how Savage's compassion for his brothers connects with Maul. He is driven by so much hate, but still connects with his brother and mourns his death.
Savage was used by Ventress and Dooku to do their dirty work, but Maul always had his back.
In a species, where the males are treated and reduced to such low numbers, who else can you rely on but your brothers?
I think that might be why he was less powerful against obi wan and The Senate. He was fighting with love for his brother in his heart, which weakened the dark side powers he had relied on until then.
in the beginning savage wanted power, so he went to maul. as he connected with maul, all he saw in savage was an apprentice. but what savage saw in maul, was a brother. savage is a victim
@@StrykeSZN maul saw him as a brother
@@vexmythoclass5000 no he didn’t. he said it himself that he will complete his training as his master not his brother
@@StrykeSZN bro u good my dud when sidious killed him maul gasped he showed care
Man, it's sad seeing pre-transformation Savage compared to how he became later. :(
He may have been a less lethal force, but he was more tactiful, observant and had a very caring personality. Then Mother Talzin simply turned him into a violent, berserking monster. A mere shadow of his former self. All power and little brain and heart.
I think his time spent with Maul may have been the only thing that brought back _some_ of his more fraternal side, even if just little enough for Maul to notice.
Just another part of Savage’s story where if he was given more time to live, we could’ve seen more of his caring side slowly come back to him.
perfectly said. it also breaks my heart when Maul decides to only treat savage as his apprentice. Savage really just wanted a brother, someone who wouldn't turn on him, and Maul, basically knowing nothing but the way of the sith, is either unable or unwilling to treat Savage as his equal. I think Maul did love Savage but want to admit it to himself, because he was so absorbed with hatred and lust for power. really heartbreaking
@@tim.a.k.mertens i like to think that it was a tough love situation where he wanted savage to be stronger and embrace the dark side more
Savage reminds me heavily of Angron from 40k. He was once a kind-hearted gladiator, who was warped into a killing machine by others, and forced to kill the person closest to him. He became a hulking rage-addled monster, and merely a shell of his former self.
I mean bro still crushed stone walls with his bare hands
Cool detail: the Jedi he head butted had actually gotten multiple puncture holes so the designers did some impressive detail
I’m sure they wanted to put blood too but weren’t allowed lol
@@JournaloftheWhills.
They didn’t need to. The whole scene was disturbing.
Lol.
You’ll see me All over the Internet. If only this wasn’t a kids show 😩
The Jedi was named Adi Galia.
The fact that it didn’t punch any holes in Sidious (Maybe because he wasn’t rammed into a wall but still)
I love how he had goodness in him but then the night sisters turned him into a mindless beast. I loved when he was a beast he had raw potential
I thought the night sisters were good
@@Manderinz well they were neutral
He still had a soft spot for Maul
Maul was the perfect master for Savage Opress and both are completely driven by hate.
I also loved how Maul was brought back. He was not well shown in the Phantom Menace with only 5 minutes of screen time
He also had one line
@@davidsboyd10 He had two actually
@@Xx_DVLDG_xX I count three.
"LEAVE ME ALONE!"
You know you're annoying when even Savage tries to get away from you. Usually he just kills you, but not for (SpongeBob) I mean the Anacondian
Just to kill him later lol. Might make an all scenes video for him just because he was annoying
I always felt bad for the king of Toydaria. He was just trying to do what was best for his people, but was also moral about it. He didn't deserve that.
He also managed to block a couple attacks with his sword, that's gotta amount to something, right?
Underplague I mean his sword was cut the second it made contact but he tried at least lmao
If Dooku had trained him just a little more, King Katanuko would probably still be with us
"I'm not like you, I never was," this right here shows how twisted Talzen made Savage as a sith, in his final moments he reverted to his caring self that didn't hate others so much as want to protect those close to him
I loves how maul never called savage brother until savage was dying
It’s pretty depressing tbh lol😥
When maul reawoke he said it?
26:38
But I see your point. Because he was raised on the Rule of Two, he can only see himself having a relationship with his brother based on being his teacher. It's only when Savage is killed that he drops it and talks to him as family, as Savage once did with Feral.
@@amvcentral9198 he acknowledged savage *as a brother* but not really his brother.
Because it’s shown savage thought he was the last (of something, don’t remember, sorry), before he found out about maul.
@@wd3185 But Maul didn't follow the rule well. That's why Sidious wanted to end his reign because the history of the sith would have been repeated and they would have been rivals. The can be and only two siths, no more no less.
His story is especially tragic when you consider that, unlike most other characters, he really didn't have a choice in who he became. His very soul was altered by the night sisters, unlike someone like anakin who still had somewhat of a choice with their actions.
Tbf a handful didnt have a choice. Maul didnt have a choice either, but being raised like that makes it hard to change your ways after being free to make his own choices
The most nerfed character in Star Wars history. Kills a master and apprentice without a lightsaber, goes toe to toe with Anakin and Obi Wan twice, breaks dookus force wall, uses retribution (Anakins ultimate ability from BF2) disarms the defensive master Kenobi, kills his second jedi master (and she was a council member) and then loses his arm and uses zero of his skill speed and strength vs sidious. I’m not saying he would ever beat sidious but no way that the savage from season 3/4 would go down that quickly
And this Savage that fought Sidious should be more experienced and stronger. I guess they made him too overpowered in season 3 and 4 and decreased his power. He wasn't handled well as a character at all.
"It's supposed to show how strong Sidious is" was probably the reasoning
I would say Grievous was more nerfed, but I can definitely agree that Savage is one of the Top 5 Most Nerfed Star Wars Characters of all time.
I think something to consider is that Savage relies a lot on his strength and physical ability and Sidious through force augmentation is stronger than him.
For the first time he can’t overpower an enemy and he’s shown getting his strikes repelled and his stamina stolen from how hard he’s swinging. He’s not worst or sloppier than before per say. Just his greatest strength doesn’t work against this opponent
I mean though it was sidious who is equal to yoda he'd destroy anakin obiwan and basically anyone in star wars other then yoda or grandmaster luke
32:22 "The Clone Wars is a kids show"
It is 😏
The keyword here is "War."
🤣
@@iop3907 nope
Clone wars is for mature kids and respectful adults.
He was my favorite character in star wars ever the unrelenting beast in him, no remorse built like a tank
Me too for the same reason. Just does his job and moves on
He seems cool. I like dark bane too. The audiobooks for his story are on youtube
Savage and Maul are the proof that not all the dark side users are completely evil. A lot of times in the show we can se that they truly cared about each other.
That kind of caring and empathy is not what Sidious would approved. Even when Maul survived, he would have never taken him back not.because he was replaced but because he was becoming weak.
The only one who’s completely evil is Sideous
That's because Maul and Savage were both beaten into the dark side, essentially
I wonder if Savage and Feral were born from a previous relationship Talzin had. Since Maul is her son, she would've instantly known who Savage is.
I don't really want to know anything about Mother Talzin having children but maybe haha
@@JournaloftheWhills She's Uncle Grandpa of Star Wars...lol
the males get exiled to the far side of dathomir. savage and feral didn't know talzin was their mother. only maul did.
@@janelleoritz8976 In legends savage is older but in canon he is a few years younger than maul, and since feral has a high voice and smaller horns than most other night brother it would stand to reason he is probably around 18-20
maybe same dad different mom
Lets talk about how he just bulldozed his way through those clones... RIP Commander Trauma
Truly RIP, Trauma was always loyal in his 5 seconds of screen time
he played hockey with them. literally.
@@janelleoritz8976 😂
If he had lived he definitely would’ve HAD trauma
That’s probably why they killed him off to be honest lol. Imagine a clone with PTSD, he’d be a perfect candidate to show to the senate that the clones were just as sentient and feeling (if not more so than some of them)
11:25 did he just take 4 laser cannon blasts to the back and not feel a thing?
and then just casually takes several more blasts to the back and still not die?
bruh moment.
also, the fact that the only one who could not only repel him and his lightsaber but also shove him backward enough to stumble him was Darth Sidious
I think it’s the armor, it’s enchanted
Do I sense some jealousy of Savage Opress strength coming from you Master Kenobi?
@@JournaloftheWhills no I would _never_ do that... sometimes it's just nice to see the look on people's faces when their best isn't enough :)
(and ty for the heart)
@@HawkieVFX thats pretty reasonable considering he himself is also enchanted
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 yea
Savage Oppress' voice actor Clancy Brown is awesome. Clancy Brown has done the voices of Lex Luthor, Mister Krabs, the Rhino, Captain George Stacy and Taskmaster.
And now we can add General Kregg to that list
Savage Opress is cool for so many reasons, but one thing that people don't talk about that I love is how he's physically strong. So many Jedi and Sith and powerful with a saber of the force but like, he's also just really tough as is.
Also, I love his name, but like, they really did just call him savage oppress, it's like calling a character 'Murder Fiend' (again, I really do love his name)
Another thing, I also love how even though Maul puts himself in charge, the two still care for each other, it's refreshing to see Sith actually care for one and other for a change.
I never noticed this as a kid but savage is one of the most tragic characters in all of Star Wars. He had all of his agency taken from him and never asked for anything in return other than not being alone
Savage: Stick together boy... we will fight like a team.
Space Atreus: Yes...
you mean Feral?
I love how Savage’s saber has a deep, growling tone to it, like his voice does, rather than just standard lightsaber SFX like Dooku or Ventress. It fits his character well.
They applied a different audio cue to Sidious’s weapons too, but those have a harsh, raspy tone more fitting for his character.
I just can’t stop watching the scene at 11:02 Obi wan and anakin find savage and he just freaking sends them flying out. Idk why I find this so funny
😂 one of the many reasons he’s one of my favorite characters
He had Anakin and Obi-Van strenght combined. I love that he is so strong!
Deep down maul cared about his brother however didn’t want these feelings to over take his rage as it may harm them
Would’ve been a whole different story for them both if Maul cared more about his brother than his own rage
Imagine if he was alive in rebels
He woulda wrecked Ezra real quick
Agreed. He wouldn't appreciate his brother replacing him...lol
@24Devin Meis He wouldn't even say anything. It would just be:
"I'm not -snap.
@@JournaloftheWhills
Yeah Ezra would be killed easy
@@theconductoresplin8092 plot armor: allow me to introduce myself
It's astonishing how strong Savage is even before his transformation
His main weakness was needing to be nerfed because of other characters plot armor lol
@@JournaloftheWhills Well, that and always thinking people are betraying him
@@JournaloftheWhills In the comics Savage is stupidly OP. He killed Plo Koon.
@@TheBritishGuy75 Im assuming thats in Legends... considering we saw Plo die during Order 66. Though, people did think Adi Gallia died in Order 66 (One of her species was in ROTS) and we saw what Savage did to them...
He was quite skilled fighter too.
Sad how Ventress and Dooku didn't give him any real or prolonged training and just immediately expected him to succeed at all of his tasks
The Sith have always had a more trial by fire approach to training
The way Savage and Maul are standing at the door after Obi Wan and Ventress escaped is kinda scary.
Sad how everyone calls Savage a monster, yet he began his journey as an admirable person just trying to protect his brother and serve his clan. However, the Nightsisters, Ventress and the Sith all forged him into a beast. It’s a sad story to me, he didn’t have a choice in the end, despite all the atrocities he would help commit alongside his brother Maul.
If savage reached his full potential he could of easily beat sidous, the reason why the dark lord killed him is because he seen savarge as a massive threat
Not just savage maul too did you see the rate they grew they were like scaffolding building off each other
All the more reason we need a “What If?” where they live. Would’ve been insane
palps would have made short work of the two even if they did have more time to grow as a duo. at least in a 1v1. if they unite after peaking in their power, they might destroy him. but in a 1v1 sidious would easily wipe the floor with either one of them
@@philip8498 eh maul had his potential snipped short full potential maul should be in the same ball park as full potential vader, not anakin but vader
@@philip8498 savage had like 2 weeks of training and had a positive win ratio against Ventress, obi-wan, and Anakin. Given a couple years he could be undefeatable
Where he gets up from that medic bed to tower all menacingly and just bonks his horns on a lamp, too cute
Savage with barely much training could kill majority of Jedi 1v1,says alot about his potential.
He understands people are stronger than him, and just wants to learn for the betterment of his ideas, which probably seem a lot less crazy than say Sidious
wish we got to see his full potential
What if savage was raised by the jedi and years later he meet his brother who is a Sith now that could have been a cool moment
@24Devin Meis Probably what would happen if you tried the same thing with guns (they fucking explode).
I feel like the Zabbraks are born sith or because the look like devils naturally go towards that side but I will say that would have been fucking awesome
@Heathen
We see that he was very loyal and caring and was a good person before the night sisters corrupted him. So him becoming a Jedi might not be as far fetched as we think.
that would be very interesting. on one hand they would have nurtured his goodness that we see before he is transformed, and it would give him community and a certain degree of brotherhood, but he would struggle with the no-attachments thing, similar to anakin. He has very protective instincts and that's both good and bad for a jedi to have. I do think about it sometimes tbh
I feel so bad for him he killed his brother that he tried to protect
Honestly, savage has probably gone through the most brutal punishment in this entire series. From getting beat up, to getting electrocuted, to getting shot at point blank range, losing a limb and eventually getting impaled. This man has known nothing but pain.
Well I mean how about sacrificing himself to the night sisters to protect his brother only to end up killing his brother himself, has to have been some kind of subconscious reaction
@@rawhidelamp I almost forgot about that 😂. That’s probably the worst thing he’s had to do in the show.
31:15 that's hilarious how the music just stops when he bumps the light lmao
31:16 sounded real evil until he hit the light 😂
Maul with humanoid legs really looks small compared to Savage who still has his legs.
21:15 This has to be one of my favorite parts of Maul's return. It kind of reflects Anakin's transformation into Vader, but instead of ripping his way off of the operating table, Maul is already thinking about how this happened to him and where he can place his anger. While Maul's goals are based on hate and rage, he reaches them through meticulous plotting and concentration of anger.
In fact Maul was indeed the one who gave Anakin his lightsaber
2:03 as a older brother, this is sooo heart warming
The way Savage gores that Jedi after the force throw is so brutal. Also the way that Mandalorian cuts his way through enemies with that vibroblade is so sick
He was already a kind and caring person before.
He could’ve been a Jedi if he wasn’t brainwashed.
35:30 Love the growl Savage lets out! Like a big jaguar! 🐆 💗
And 34:02
Savage's story is sad, but his connection with maul is weirdly heartwarming. even after being transformed into the monster he was, a part of savage still just wanted a connection, it isn't the fact he was used that hurts hi, nor a sense of inferiority, but the fact that both dooku and ventrus betrayed him that hurt. when he learns of mauls existence, he's so driven by it, not for really anything else but that connection. and once mauls is back, he tries so hard to anything for Maul's sake. He ends up fighting Mauls once but it felt more like that was because maul for a moment reminded him of dooku and ventress and felt this would be another betrayal.
His connection to Mauls is weirdly heartwarming because of that. Maul uses him, treats him like a tool sometimes. i Savage knows it, but at first the reason he puts up with it is because he hopes that connection is real. surprisingly, it is real, even though many times Maul treats him like just a good tool to use, the moments of genuine care and concern show through when savage is in peril and i think Savage himself notices it, and that's why he chooses to stay with maul. it makes his final moments even more heart breaking but sweet in a way. as he is dying he is shown without question the love Maul has for him, Mauls doesn't just continue the fight, dismiss Savage as too week to save, or run away, no Maul drops everything just to check on him and look genuinely hurt to see him dying. He gets to pass on knowing someone cared about him, and i think that's why in his final breath he doesn't hate maul for the treatment he received from him, regrets dying, but just regrets not being as strong as Maul, and even though Maul said they are Master/Apprentice not brothers, that's what Savage choses to see him as in his final moments.
maul got a rage amp afterwards while fighting sidious to the point he even stops laughing and resorts to the force
29:21 rare footage of Maul showing a emotion that isn't anger
I loved the sound of his lightsaber. I love the unique low humming and swooshing noises it makes when he swings it
Feral is voiced by dee Bradley baker. No wonder he sounds a lot like Rex.
He's one of those dudes where it's easier to ask who Dee Bradley Baker didn't voice, the mans everywhere in all types of shows but he does a great job so I'm not complaining
Savage is probably one of my favorite characters from this series.
I heard that in Star Wars rebels that Maul would have flashbacks of his brother, but the writers decided to cut it out .
Yup and I wished they left him in. Would’ve been interesting to see what he’d look like with Rebels animation
Realy? Uh...I would've realy loved to see him there.
24:37 Even in this dangerous, somewhat desperate scenario Kenobi is still savage enough to roast Ventress.
32:37
„It would seem the decision to join us is now yours“
„…eh“
I love the feral/animalistic sounding roars and growls that Savage makes from time to time. It really fits him, both because of his name, Savage, and because of how much of a beast of a Zabrak he is.
damn, homie a tank. just shaking off force lightning 🥶
fr, he’s everything I aspire to be besides the highly murderous and angry part
12:39: "Sir I'm sorry we don't have the among us happy meal-"
4:17 Savage!! It’s now *Savage* As in like, running around and destroying everything!!!
37:45 "SAVAGE OPRESS ENTERPRISE VAST CRIMINAL EMPIRE"
I don't know why I found this funny, just the way it sounded all strung and cut together like that. Lol
Who else notices that Savage seems to get weaker as a fighter as the show progresses? Like before he had no problem fist fighting Ventress (for a short time) and plowing through the Jedi and clones with his magic blade. If you see his fights from then and when he fights palps, it’s downright weird to see him move so jerky and slow. Did the magic wear off over time maybe?
Not many people know this, but the dark side has a physical toll on a siths body. When dooku had his first fight with obi wan and anakin in attack of the clone, he was incredibly powerful from the dark side. However, in revenge of the sith with his rematch, the dark side had effected his body making him slower and weaker. I think this is the case with savage, strong at first from the dark side, but his body got weaker as the series went, which explains why he was very sloppy against Palpatine.
The only time he truly looked sloppy was against Sidious but lets be real, almost anyone would look sloppy against Sidious.
I just think he got nerfed tbh
Darth Sidious has slowing aura
It's possible that once he was reunited with his brother, his strength in the Dark side lessened, because he was more conflicted inside, sometimes even trying to be compassionate with Maul.
Take a shot everytime he says brother 🥴
It would be cool to see a hand fight between Wrecker and Savage without force.
Savage stomps
Wrecker is strong but savage is just a whole nother beast.
I think he would do better than Embo
Savage wins ez
Can't believe people are saying Savage would win. Wrecked lifted a whole gunship with his hate hands
Savage is one of my all time favorite Star Wars characters ngl
The angrier he gets, the more he becomes Mr. Krabs.
In all honesty this was dumb on Ventress' part. She should've trained Savage more and actually honed his and her own abilities in dark side powers with the night sisters. THEN send him undercover to Dooku to which then he would've been able to succeed more in his duties and thus fruther gaining favor with Dooku. By then she'd have more of a shot.
Honestly. Their whole plan to kill dooku annoys me.
They could have gotten Maul first too.
They could have partnered with some Jedi for the time being and agreed to split ways after.
But instead they rush it and fail🤦♂️
ok but Night sisters never reveal their secrets of dark side to MALES.
40 minutes of greatness.
Agreed
14:00 this part is always funny lol
I feel like Maul didn't train him correctly because Savage would eventually overthrown Maul!
I think there was not enough time for his training
Its more that maul himself had yet to be fully trained and was busy self teaching
No he wouldn’t, they were brothers
31:10 when he hits his head on the lamp had me burst out in laughter
One of my favorite scenes :)
You know, usually guys with names like 'Savage Opress' or 'Deathkill Murderboss' fall flat on their face when they fight someone their own caliber but it's refreshing to see him actually tank shit and dish out the pain, too. And against people like Obi Wan or Count Dooku, to boot!
The reason savage was more powerful in season 4 than in season 5 was because he was under dookus training who treated him like an animal without care or compassion knowing his anger was his strongest ability, he most likely overpowered obi wan and ventress because of how angry he was at seeing mauls condition. When maul started to teach him he wasnt punished for failing, he wasnt abused or belittled, maul genuinly caree about savage thus he could not train him to his full potential the way dooku did because he did not want and i quote savages words to dooku "i hate you" for his brother to hate him.
31:14 I love this. Menacing music as this mountainous Zabrak rises from the bed onky to smack hus head on a lamp 😂
😂one of my favorite savage scenes
he was such a badass
I still belive that if Savage had the proper time and training he'd be one of the strongest force users in the galaxy. He accomplished so much in so little time and I feel like it was a sign of how high his ceiling was.
Maul: *dramatic, eloquent core-accented lecture*
Savage: *tiger noises*
I never realized how Mauls plan to conquer Mandalore was an exact copy of Palpatines plan on a smaller scale
funny how mother talzin plays all the sides except with sidious.
Hot take: Sidious and Talzin were together but had a bad breakup. Now they refuse to work with each other.
@@JournaloftheWhills Sidious had the hots for her
@@skeeter.1017 Rey is Sheev and Talzins grandchild confirmed
The Night Sisters really are the coolest group in Star Wars. The gave us Savage who was awesome to see fight. Their magic is way more visually distinct, creative, and awesome than any force user. And any episode focusing on them was a good one on the Clone Wars.
Savage was actually my favorite character, a giant hulking tank.