What 4X4 SHOULD YOU BUY? ULTIMATE 4WD Buying Guide | NISSAN, TOYOTA, MITSUBISHI, FORD, ISUZU, HOLDEN
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Reply with every 4x4 we forgot 😂 👇
Hj47 🤙🤙
LR Defender is a big contender to forget, and cant knock back a cheap jeep, td tax is getting serious
Mahindra pik up single cab 2.2L turbo diesel 2016 model, my brother owns one paid $23,000 for it and it only has 53,000km on the clock and has a Eaton automatic locking differential. Very capable 4wd.
Jeep TJs and XJs
@@callumbaylissbrandenburg9605 the problem is it's probably nor gonna last as long as most mainstream 4wd's and parts are more scarce whether they are off road upgrade parts or spares
Basically a video on why you should buy a Toyota or a Nissan ......
It's not a coincidence 🙄
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HAHAHAHAHAHA you can only understand once you own a real 4x4
@@deant6627 whats not real about the 4x4 I own? 🤦♂️🤣
I have had hiluxs for around 25 years. Easy to work on, and get parts for. I started cheap, 5k was my first hilux. I had it for 7 years, until I sunk it in port Philip bay launching my boat on a beach, I got paid out 7k from the insurance company as a total loss - bonus! (Made 2k in 7 years).
I tend not to do hard core stuff anymore, 1- I’m older and wiser, 2, my current sr5 hilux cost $67k fully decked out, bull bar, winch, steel tray, 145 litre long range tank, and many other bits and pieces, reg + insurance. This vehicle now tows my caravan to WA, where I prospect for gold, it’s my business vehicle, tows my boat, use it’s tray to fill up fire wood. It’s all rounder now. I take care of my vehicles nowadays. When I was young I blew up gearboxes, transfer cases, cracked rear axles, cooked engines, replaced head gaskets myself. I fully pulled apart my 3RZ 2.7 litre engine and rebuilt that myself in my home garage. Took that all the way to WA, then north to Broome, Halls creek, down towards Melbourne down the tanami (worst dirt road on earth, vicious corrugations in parts, I think around 1100 or 1300kms, can’t remember), it didn’t miss a beat that old girl on that trip. My advice, buy something cheap, if you are blessed being mechanically minded, and can fix things yourself, go for it, have fun. Not everyone is mechanically minded, so think wisely before you go hard on tracks, cos things brake when they get old (cheap cars), and if you are paying someone to fix it, I can imagine things escalating in costs. But I’d say give it a go, try to fix things yourself, there’s plenty of knowledge on TH-cam nowadays to help you along
The Ol GQ still holds its own 30 odd years down the track and is still the perfect entry level and capable rig.
Love the simplicity and non bias of ya channel lads, there's a few hidden gem here on the south coast when restrictions are lifted
Thanks MrDampernator! really appreciate the words!
Idea for a new episode: best mods for $5K, $7.5K, $10K etc
Thanks Jamie!
Got a 2016 D23 Navara for a daily and long trips... got my 93 factory TD42 GQ Patrol for fun and short trips... I will definitely hold onto my GQ forever... although I do love the Navara.. it’s super comfy, super reliable, heaps of power and amazing, best in class I think for fuel economy.. best of both worlds.. misses likes driving the Navara too...
Yessss I'm keen for the video
Keep up the amazing work
Jackaroos all the way ❤
Cheers Riley! means a lot :)
At my work site we have 08-2010 hiluxs and 07-2009 DMAXs. The dmaxs are OVER 1,000,000 kms on the clock and the hiluxs are over 800,000 km on the clock. I highly recommend them trucks, treat them well, service them, fix them when there’s a problem and they’ll go forever
Woah!pretty impressive!! thanks for sharing Heath!!
Wow ,Really
2nd gen 4runner/surf is one of the best value for money 4wds you can get, preferably a surf cause of the diesels but even the 3.0 v6 is an alright engine as long as you keep up to date on everything and have had the head gasket recall, my vzn130 is still running strong with 335550ks
Well done again.
The group discussion format and very useful informative subject without being just an infomercial like certain other channels.
Thanks Bruce!! means a lot :)
Need another one of these for people just getting into 4X4 😁
My pick for the 5,000-15,000 would be a good old 75 series!
same, truly bulletproof....multiple here on the farm with 6 and 7 hundred thousand ks and still drive well with minimal break-downs
Nice list of options! If I had the space I'd grab an old petrol GQ for a second 4wd to hit the tracks nearby and do short overnight trips. I just like older cars/trucks and prefer working on them.
Thanks Wayne!
Awesome vid boys keep it up!
Thank you Sam!!
I go on car sales all the time and the cars featured are the EXACT ones I’ve seen before lol
Great vid boys!
For the price point if you want to make a personal yet very capable tourer with strong drivetrain a TD42 or a 3.0L GU Patrol Wagon or Ute has strong aftermarket parts support. Ute will have a higher GVM if there is only two of you in the car and want to kit it out with all the comforts.
Also the 80 series 1HZ or 1HD-FT is great bang for buck and still have spending room to make it a personal and very capable tourer.
The petrol versions will be easier on the pocket not in fuel but in long term servicing.
Loving my ZD30 CRD Nissan Patrol 2012. Its no TD4.2 but its modded enough for good amount of low end torque. hasn't missed a beat with over 150k's
Agree with Liam all the way. Well done. Go the GQ!
im 23 went out and bought a brand new toyota hilux this year. So far so good only problem is now im broke af and cant afford any mods. I bought it just before covid at the start of the year in feb. She still hasnt been taken off road and is completly stock. Im happy with my purchase but possibly going a little cheaper and throwing the extra cash on mods is the better way to go.
If i could pick any car id go the 79 series.
I like the bt50 they look good done up and are very capable even stock
7:00 "so now were jumping into $35,000 range"
Me: ill see myself out🤣
I think you guys should give the y62 a chance, once you put some decent tires on that thing there's no stopping it
I gotta 2008 rodeo and that things is quick enough to keep up with corollas and gets me pretty much anywhere I point it, and with a 3" exhaust and psico airbox it sounds great
Haha the oooh bugga ad, havent seen that in a couple decades noce hahaha
Keep up the good videos lads, you are the Aussie version of my and my mates, fucking around doing random shit with trucks haha. No.1 binge i reckon. Churr from New Zealand!
XJ Jeep, best first 4wd for the buck
Dis guy knows ^
In the lower price bracket I would go with the Pajero because they deprecate in value more than the Toyotas or Nissans, so you can get a less flogged out car for a similar price.
Flogged Ln106 is still better than a pajero
@@chadpound9204 did he said 2000 for the pajero ?
TD Coil Cab GQ Ute all the way. Picked mine up for 13k in mint condition and low Kms
Pajero all the way. My 02 Pajero cost me $3500. Yes it's petrol but much cheaper to maintain and work on than the Diesel version and it pushes through everything Patrols and Cruisers doo.
I bought 2008 Range Rover with all the Vogue etc names with every option, it’s a tuned 3.6 d V8, egr, PDF delete (quicker than my mate’s 4.5 Toyota), never towed anything, inside like new and not even a scratch on the paint, an obvious mall crawler or soccer mum car just it makes good noise: bought it to tow a boat but it drives so smooth and quiet, not even a rattle that I drive 98% of the time (also have a mint C6 Corvette convertible I’m not even bothering to register next year) Paid $25k for it with 110,000 klm, now has 155,000 klm with no issues: have taken it on some rough old dirt tracks but nothing that needed 4x4 engaged so can’t comment on that, I’ve heard people bag them because sometimes an airbag might stuff up but that’s it: I wanted a V8 Toyota, either troopy or wagon but they were twice the price with more than twice the klm’s, had just basic plastic interior, no autos (I’m an old truckie so not interested in manuals: I can drive a 20 speed quadruplex and 20 speed Spicer which most have never even heard of let alone Road Rangers etc) I like English cars and this thing is like a 4x4 Roller, if it costs me $20k (which it won’t) over the next ten years I’ll still have money left over if I bought a Troopy... maybe not the resale but I doubt there’ll be much in it. Was going to look at a new Jeep before I bought the C6 but the only diesel is a 2.2 Alpha Stelvio and can’t find a long term review: the previous 2.8 was a VM engine, I used them on BPT’s as blower engines and nothing trouble... the new Colorado has them just they changed a few things, in Jeeps they cringed, in the Colorado they rave about them, go figure... I wouldn’t trust one.
I know most people would know this. But, if you want a 3L GU. DO NOT get an early series one. GU I, GU II, If you wanna save money. If you don’t mind spending money and sending your car to the mechanic shop or spending 4 weekends on it then go right ahead. There is a reason they’re called grenade engines. Later Direct Injection 3L (GU III, GU IV) didn’t have the grenading problem but you’ll have to replace the diesel pump and injectors at one point. I just replaced the pump and injectors on mine. If you want a Patrol just save up your money and get a TD42 turbo or non. Just stay clear of the early ZD30 3L engines unless you’re gonna engine swap it. This is my current plan and one of many reasons why I got a ZD30. Even though my patrol is a GU IV and the issue was resolved the ZD30 engine is somewhat underpowered and sluggish. It’s not built for power.
ln106 can't go wrong they cost next to nothing in the general car price bracket
15k here in NZ
12k i’ve been seeing in aus
get one while you still can champ. i wouldn't let mine go for a dollar under 15k. the price is skyrocketing
@@jordanoneill82 Yeah i got one
6grand for my Ln106 n/a tractor fuckin tank it is
Honestly I'd go for tdi300 disco 1 for 0 to 5k.
They're reliable, cheap as chips on fuel and are great off road, they have live axles and are probably one of the most comfortable cheap 4x4 you can buy.
Definitely not reliable tho, only downside
@@parkkos9798 Based on my experience and what I see for sale, series 1 and 2 Discoverys absolutely are reliable, they just don't respond well to poor maintenance or overheating.
Keep on top of your maintenance and fix the few design faults found over time like you should with every old car and there's almost no reason why a pre 2004 Land Rover shouldn't hit at least 400,000kms even with off road use.
@@jrc-3954 Oh yea fair, from what I've seen they've been real bad for reliability, my mate had 3 all of them shat themselves in different ways
Fuck bro don’t tell this to people! Hard enough finding one without people even knowing about them
Discovery is the best kept secret let's keep it that way
Thanks for the vid guys. Just wondering, would be considered as high KM’s for a Diesel powered car?
I’m currently saving up for a RG Colorado Z71 and if I’m lucky the Z71 Xtreme back then from there 2inch lift slightly bigger all terrains and just a rear locker and I think I’ll be about set can’t go wrong with those autos either with the 500NM and 147KW!
paid $4000 for my gen 2 Pajero 3.5 manual. One family owner with
180,000kms. Best thing I've ever bought
Old school bt-50 2007-2011 best 4wd ive ever driven for a low price, basically a hilux engine, and can get it for cheap with low ks and youll know itll last
Bet that Dan’s spewin you didn’t mention the old D21 😂
Jeep rubicon, no questions asked! From the factory live axel, front and rear diff locks all the fruit
But petrol...
They come in diesel in different variants
...and more clip-on plastic than you can shake a stick at...
V6 amaroks go hard, very nice on road too
i just loved this video! i am an Argentinian in Australia looking for my first 4WD to explore the country. I would like to set it up to sleep in the car as i am just 5.1 i will be fine haha. I am looking for reliability and easy to mantain as i dont really know much about cars, i will not be able to fix an issue in the middle of nowhere. I will say i have 8 to 10 grand budget, and could go to 12 if it is the dreamed. what you can recommed to look for? also, talking about kms how much is a good maximum in a 4WD? thanks a lot!
Id love an old td coil cab ute but the new dualcabs are so much better on the road and I think the difference between them off-road and the solid axel is smaller than solid axel to ifs on the road so I don't think I'm gonna spend lots on a patrol unless I have 2 cars but that's just my opinion you do you
Three weeks ago almost bought a LC105 for ten grand
Last Monday I bought a Y60 Patrol 1989 model for $1700 😁
Notification squad
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Petty GQ
Rare but can be good are 300tdi landrovers. They are not as bad as what people make them out to be. They leak oil but that's about it
Get a clean gu patrol and engine swap it with a 1hdfte or LS engine depending on what driving you do and itll be blow all other 4x4 on the tracks and on the streets. You can't simply buy a 4x4 with a better driveline or chassis. Nissan engines aren't the best but the Toyota engines are so itll be a no brainier to spend 60 to 80k on a brand new car littered with emissions controls and engineered to only last a curtain time. service ability and parts availability is another key factor that needs to be brought up. I myself have done extensive research and work to my car which is a GU patrol with a td42t. Youll be amazed at how reliable you can get these engines if you have some good mechanical knowledge. The thing that lets them down is the Muppet that pulls a 30k loan out to buy one. The 79, hilux and any other ute 4x4s (excluding the patrols ) are not made to go do your hard tracks without a high amount of stress put on factory components. And ill happily have a extensive discussion with anyone who disagrees with this.
Have a 1k shitter for the tough tracks and a tourer for travelling best of both worlds
i have a 2008 spacecab ford ranger turbo desiel that I brought for 8k, mainly use for touring but still capable off road not as bad as people say
Whatever price you get your 4wd. Its second hand. Hence itll need work. People have families. People fix things when they break and perhaps not much so preventative.
Another tip perhaps go with live axle front and rear. Independent has more clearennce but just doesnt flex. I think theyre best left for outback touring. If you dont mind the lack of movement in the front end or do light 4wd work there are more 4wds out there besides nissans and toyotas.
For young guys why not a swb mq patrol?
80/90's pajero-i think the petrol versions had a v6?
Land rover discoveries v8 for local work, diesel for touring-plenty mods out there from uk to get them up and going.
If you want a land rover 110. Get onto greys online. Register and bid for a perentie. It should be cheaper than buying one from gumtree/ebay.
I rock a 2009 Land Rover Freelander 2 ($9000) and a 2019 Mercedes X class 350d ($90,000), the freelander has never let me down and I've taken it off road many times, it's definitely a hidden gem it offers unrivaled comfort on and off road. The Mercedes is a underated beast although it is expensive it is definitely capable off-road, powered by the om642 engine it hits the sweet spot of power and fuel efficiency and is definitely a good choice for around 70-90k
so you have a 90,000 dollar Narvara, with a face-lift....there is a reason they have already stopped selling them you know? there wasn't enough suckers out there for them to be viable in Australia!!
I got a d21 td27t terrano for 450 bucks with a crook engine put another motor in for 500 bucks 950 bucks on the road laughing.
Extent of 4wd'ing I've done is towing firewood offroad but it handles that sweet. Decent option for me since my main passion is street and track cars but I want to give 4wding a go without forking thousands on a safari etc
79 series cruiser boys is the only real option.
The tritons though are the best on the tracks for ifs suspension that iv seen 👍
Land rover discovery 1
Hi Boys, Great content. I’ve watched this twice and got two different answers. In Sydney at least early 4x4s are like puppy dogs. They are scarce and expensive. I saw more wanted adds, than vehicles.it wasn’t like this 12 months ago. I’m now thinks a clean late model bt50, dmax etc is better value than an early project, but get a good early 4z4 and it will appreciate in value
Regards Alex
Thanks Alex! yeah its getting more and more like that these days! insane!
0-5 K category the best go to is still the xj the 4l is realible great wheelbase parts are cheap
having had GQ patrols and xj cherokeea in the past I can say hands down the xj is more capable with a better wheelbase for offroarding
And there's that many aftermarket parts avaible that you can build a everything from a serious rock crawler to a capable tourer
Noti gang
Haha for me it's a td42 patrol for every price group, only because they are the best.
Don't rush into buying one. Look around. I got my 89 td42 GQ wagon for $2900 12 months ago..
There are plenty of cheap reliable 4wds out there if your willing to take your time and wait until you find the right one
Good advice Shane!!
One of rthe main reasons for that is the note that goes with it
1991 GQ all day everyday 🤙🏻👌🏻
Got a 1999 GU patrol Petrol for $6,000 and the old girl has never let me down and ive spent next to no money on it. (except for mods like 6" suspension lift and 35" muddies) also got 2 of ya stickers the other day, great quality
And would be super caperble! Thank you Kai!! Appriciate it!
I am so glad its gonna be a few years before I can buy a car because 4x4 prices are through the roof at the moment. I want a an 80 series cruiser but far out, i saw one on carsales for 100k. wtfff
Love the video lads! I picked up a 2011 gu wagon common rail 3.0L for 27k (asking price was 32k) with only 40xxx on it. Bloody good deal for the Ks. Couldn't be more happier with it! If your around that 25-30k mark, definetly couldn't go wrong with a clean GU 🤙
Yeah i got a 2011 for 26500, great bang for buck
That's cheap as man with those kms on it basically a new car.
Just interested in why you are so set on solid axle? I am selling my 105 and jumping into a ifs 100 and I will not hesitate to go just as hard in the new bus
My vote would be for the 2005 79series with the 1HD-FTE motor, because I already own one 👍😉👍
Struth hdj79 shit over the v8s
@@benjohnston8665 yea everyone always says that, but after having both for years and years i would say neither has been more reliable than the other...and the v8s at least have the sound and the easy power
No love for the np300s boys probably one of the best 4wd I've had my 79 was shuthouse in comparison
I've seen them off road and yeah seem pretty decent!
Nah he just works for Nissan!! 😂
Comeobe jimbob you can't expect people to take this comment seriously mate hahs
you have got to be joking. the NP300 are horrid! that back end suspension set-up is a nightmare (let the resale do the talking)
I’m looking for a 4WD just as my normal car but might go bush bashing once a month what the best for that?
I've got the nissan patrol 4.5l awesome car it just sucks the fuel down
Land Rover Defender or Perentie, 20k+ I would think most of them have hit the end of there max depreciation
perentie all the way
Perentie with the 4cyl 3.9 L diesels are pretty much bulletproof
@@MoonKnightH8 they are not that bulletproof.....all of the inherent land-rover flaws kinda spoil the rest of the car TBH
@@shaunmurray8132 such as ??
@@themisunderstoodgorilla7030 the half-shafts and drive flanges flogging out so you get that good ole drive clunk.....the pannels denting from just looking at them....piss-weak UV joints.....a grill that smashes to pieces when so much as a finch gets hit on the road.....terrible drivers ergonomics......weak as piss clutches...leaks everywhere.....and ours has only done 110,000ks.....do i need to go on??????
You forgot about the Land Rover Defenders! Live axles front and rear all the way to 2016. Can find them from about 10k all the way up to 90k, and they’re actually appreciating now. You’ve also got J**ps and Suzukis, but I think you mentioned most other brands.
$4,000 got me a half modified 45 series long wheel base cruiser ute with the 2H Diesel
ute ?
i love the 45s! but they are such rust-buckets. it a real pity they didnt built them to hold up better back in the day
Most 4.2 diesel six pots burn nearly just as much fuel as their petrol counterparts except for the mighty Patrol 4.8, that wins the drinking contest hands down. Also diesels require a service more frequent than petrol's. I drive a Landcruiser but if I had to choose something for a bush weapon I would go with a TJ Wrangler and I am not a Jeep fan at all.
You can do hard tracks in IFS if your good don't need soild Axel for hard tracks
They will just pop CV's more cause an IFS can't handle as much torque on the CV's simply down to there angle (unless its under a 2" lift then it changes, you rip a CV boot in mud though then ya stuffed. Don't have to worry about that with a solid Axel
Ml triton 3.2td for touring and gq patrol for hard tracks
Do you guys not have Jeep Wranglers down there, JK or JLs?
I’ve racked up 5 speeding tickets and I’m gonna sell my Honda manual, would a heavy slow cheap 4wd be a good option lol
Check out y62. Very good modern option
Mentioned basically every other 4x4 except for jeep wranglers. TJ, JK, JL
Guys, thanks - that was a great run down. For my needs (touring), I tow a small camper and I've zeroed in on a pathfinder or challenger but keep looking at the 4XMotion Touareg...worried about the cost of repairs, but from what I've read they are fairly reliable and capable. What are your thoughts on this euro brand? Any other suggestions?
Honestly don't know enough about the euro cars unfortunately! You're after a wagon i suppose?
@@AussieArvos Yes. Can't assume anything in the camper will stay dry and clean, or in the canopy if I bought a ute...the S/W pretty much does guarantee that. Also the softer ride is appealing..we are planning to become grey nomads - the grey part is complete, now for the nomadding part...:)
Benny id steer clear of the pathfinders, go the challenger or a pajero in that price range.
My mechanic said he would beat me up if I bought a pathfiner (same shape as a D40 navara - previous models were great) as they had so many issues with the 2.5lt diesel. Theres a reason theyre such a good price but also why so many have dissapeared from the second hand market so fast when they were a top selling ute. Did heaps of research for us on the subject. Reliability between the mitsubishi and the pathfinder....stick with Pajero or challenger. Both great cars and reliable and good bang for buck. The 3.2lt pajero diesels are amazing on fuel and tow amazingly if you can get one. Just stay away from a pathy for your wallets sake. (Fyi my firt car was a pathy so I have a soft spot for them and was gutted the new ones were so unreliable). Good luck
Nissan all the way
So many Australians are completely Nissan or Toyota bias. Do your own research don't just buy a Hilux because your dad says they were indestructible 10 years ago
what happened to the 120 and 150 series mate pretty silly to forget them
I feel like the ford ranger raptor i slept on a bit. Yes they r very expensive but we got one and tested it on a bunch of fire tracks and im very suprised on how good it was
I Agree. From the factory they have incredible offroad capability. Only issue I see is low towing capability and not really capable of GVM upgrade Mods
Up the dmax !
lc 75 got 999,978ks on it live in vic and been up the cape 2 tims
Disco and defenders cant go wrong. Under rated in aus due to a smaller aftermarket and dificult to get parts. But very capable vehicles being coil live axles (disco 1 and 2) and not too expensive. And the defenders (excluding perentie) are alloy bodies so light. Verymuch under rated cars. And for thr 0-5k bracket a v8 disco is a better choice then a petrol gq. Both good tho. Diesel offerings in the gq are much better than disco offerings and on par with defenders esp perentie
Dmax 4jj1 !
Over 20K I would stick with the older 4wd but mod it more have a second Daily Driver
Landcruiser or partol is always the awnser
After watching this a year after and looking at the prices of second hand cars now. I wish I could go back in time 😂
I know mate, like a patrol is like 10 grand min and that is a thrashed slightly modified one
big dogs got the olivers on ey ? ehhhyy? hahaha
hello guys do you think it's a good buy a Prado 2004 4.0 6 cylinder for 10k and spend 3k for changing airbag (broken already) with 2" lift and lower control arm? Thank You..
Any reviews on eearly 2000 Tritons
Mitsubishi challengers are a good starting point
Ford and mitsi underated
Unimog in the 45 to 60k bracket would be my choice
HAHAHAH not wrong!
What about 120 and 150 series Prados??? Really nice cars.
Petrol is bulletproof and more refined then most under 15k.
Even diesels are great tourers
Petrols sitting between 10-20k, diesels 15-30k.
Not as capable but better on the road and highway.
About to buy my next car. I'm at a loss at what to get. I want something with the reliability of my old 80s hilux but with more comfort.
I don't want it financially ruin me if it breaks down. I just don't see that in all the new work utes, as much as I like the look of them. I have 30-40k to spend. I'm actually considering getting a 4.7 v8 petrol cruiser for 20-30k and spending 10k on mods (or fuel).
4jj1 👌👌