I used to not understand tube screamers. I play a strat through a Hot Rod Deluxe, which is a darker amp. I tried a TS one day, and turned the tone knob up to 3 oclock. A whole new world opened up for me.
Hey guys I don't know much about amps When we put the od in front of the amp It drives always the clean channel? Or it drives an already drive amp? Sorry f m English
People forget for years before he plugged straight into a cranked amp and that most of the gain is coming from the amp and NOT the pedals! They’re merely there as clean boosts.
Once I ran my TS-9 into my Boss Blues Driver (NOT the other way around) I never looked back. BD-2 on a moderate rhythm setting, TS added for solos with max level & low gain. It just screams, cuts through a band mix & even with BOTH pedals on is very dynamically responsive when using the guitar's volume knob. However it does not pair well with my Boss DS-1.
I use an OCD clone on LP mode as the main overdrive on my pedalboard, and use a mini TS9 to boost into that - gain set no higher than 9 o'clock, level at maybe 1 or 2 o'clock and the tone at about 11. It works well to focus the sound and help solos and lead parts pop out of the mix. Both of my amps (a Marshall DSL20 and a Blackstar Debut 50r as a solid state backup) are British-voiced with a lot of mids so I don't really like trying to layer the distortion from the pedal itself on top of a clean tone. However, it works really well as a "social overdrive" as you describe it. Often I won't even use the OD pedal when I'm playing through the Marshall as the "ultra gain" channel has a great sound of its own for modern distortion sounds, and the "classic gain" channel crunches up quite nicely with humbuckers for an edge of breakup sound. However, in both cases, the TS comes in really handy once again as a coloured boost. It basically adds a tighter, more aggressive voice to both channels, which the 40 watt version tries to do itself but fails imo (at least on the ultra gain channel).
I still have and use a Digitech Bad Monkey from when I started playing guitar. It was the first pedal I ever bought, based on a friends recommendation. Sometimes I think about selling it and buying a TS9 but eventually change my mind. I like running it by itself into my Princeton set to just breaking up. If I want heavier tones I'll stack it into a Rat 🐀 with the Princeton clean. It sounds great and tightens the Rat up.
Trey Anastasio stacks Tube Screamers. I stack my 808 with Xotic effects BB. I will try dialing the tone knob down on the 808 its been set at 1 o'clock for 10 years.
If you stack them, you may not have to turn the tone back too much depending on the order and the way you run each. I actually had the TS9 tone set a little low in this video when I was stacking them, it could have stood to be brightened up a bit
SRV was the only player I know who stacked the TS. The interesting thing is it works better IMO when both pedals are set to zero gain and full volume boost. I’ve always loved the mid punch the Screamer gives that makes anything you play audibly pleasant at all volumes and at any gain stage of your amp. It’s just a great versatile pedal. Thankfully I have a modeler so I can sensibly put up to 4 of them in my effects chain without causing any issues!
I use the SD1 in front of my JCM 800 with a Les Paul custom and the TS9 on the green channel of my 5150 EVH with overdrive engaged and SD1 on red channel of 5150 with amp gain set at 2 I always have both pedals set the same way with drive at zero, tone at noon and level dimed
The Tube Screamer sounds good on its own. With my own playing I never stack overdrives and distortion pedals. It's one or the other. I only sometimes stack one of these pedals with a subtle preamp pedal. Been playing Strats with a TS9 for years through Fender and Peavey combo style amps. Favorite TS9 setting: Drive at 10, Tone at 9, Level at unity or a touch above.
Hi Jack, these great overdrives have been guessed since their beginnings, but to them should be added the MXR GT-OD, the BOSS "Blues driver" and also the cheaper, but very good TC electronic "Cinders"... :-) Many greetings and congratulations for everything.
I'm using a Fender GTX100 with its onboard tube screamer modeling effec pedal. I gain stack a Klon clone and like to use it with the Deluxe Reverb amp model and a strat. I get pretty good tones with it.
enjoyed this video , lots of great information on employing this great circuit . stellar playing as always and i also really enjoyed your chicago stroy . next time you are here look me up and we will grab a pizza
@@JackFossett Thanks for asking 😎👍 Have always had tube amps, but tubes and service wasn't cutting it anymore. Went with Fender TMDR, but am worried about the fact tha it's cheaper to buy a new TMDR than to possibly fix 2 days after warranty runs out. Hurts my sensibilities. Pedals always seem to last forever. Therefore, tried UA's Dream... My chase for tone, mods, cabs, artist settings and presets are done. Actually plugged into the normal channel of the TMDR to a/b the two😉😎👍 Each is it's own take on a DR, but the Dream with its extras and tones shines through. Great feel. Very pleased with the results 😉 Makes my pedalboard the heaviest and largest part of my rig.😎👍 You might want to check it out when you get the time, and let us know what you think? Hope this helps you in some say😎👍❤🖖
I had a Maxon OD-808, an original vintage one. I don't remember why I sold it one day but I regret it. I bought the Reissue but I didn't like it one bit. I still haven't been able to find an old original one. It's my favorite of the 3.
that Delta King 12 is a real nice little amp. would be great to hear some more pedals through it. try an acoustic through it. great stuff! love your channel. thanks for sharing 👍🙂👍
Nice vid. I enjoyed the point that it’s a social overdrive. I’m a SD-1 user (basically Boss’ TS, as you know) and a klone fan (Emerson Goldenface currently, but I’ve had many over the years) and I use both of those pedals/circuits in many of the ways you describe. They’re usually feeding another source of gain, whether that’s a more neutral overdrive further down the signal path or the amps gain. I love running my SD-1 or my Goldenface into my Boss OD-3, there’s a lot of superb tones to be had that way. Have you ever tried an OD-3? I know you’re a BD-2 fan (at least the Keeley Super Phat Mod version), and I really think if you enjoyed that style of drive the OD-3 would be up your alley.
I have a 30th anniversary TS-9 (chrome green)and I run it into the 40 th anniversary (chrome red)TS-9. Glorious! I just bought a 1981 TS-9 that I can't wait to get to put into my pedalboard. I run my pedal board with an aby switcher into a soldano slo 100 and a Marshall 30 th anniversary (blue tolex). Any tone I want come from this combination. From great cleans to evil means!
TS9 is always on at low settings - when i play a solo i push the TS808 on - so they are both on. That in combination with a compressor is ideal for me. And sometimes i ran 2 tube screamers and an boss super overdrive at the same time :-)
Hey man, great content btw. Anyhoo, I'm new to the pedal platform thing, I'd love to hear ur input. I'm running a v40 duchess which doesn't break up much, so I use a cheap klon clone for stage one gain and some breakup( it's a 40$ wish clone that sounds pretty dang good) and I have a ts9 after it for lead boosting. I feel like I'm on the right track but rolling off volume with the clone just doesn't seem to cut it. It just seems to lose tone hard-core. Should I try a better clone? The centavo seems like a good choice, I really like the clone circuit and I enjoy what the ts9 does, but something isn't right. Should I try a blues breaker? Prince of tone ? Tumnus? Idk I need direction, pls help😡
Just got a second hand behringer TS, if the level is too low the guitar gets quieter when pedal is enagaged. Normal or nah? I have no reference point :(
I love Tube Scresmers. You don’t have to spend $500. If you go buy a stock current Ibanez TS9, they’re as good as any production year, right now. Same goes for the 808.
I run a crybaby, to a ibanez ts9, to a boss ds1 ran through a Marshall jcm2000, I've noticed with the ts9 it causes my Amp to tweet (literally sounds like a little bird tweeting away) anyone know what that's about? Could it be a grounding issue? I. Not super tech savvy and I've never opened the pedal up to look.
If you had a Blues Junior with a Cannabis Rex that you loved, would you bother getting a delta king 12? I do like Supro, I have a head, but was thinking about a small-ish Supro combo.... Thanks Jack
The best tone you can get from any pedal is to mess with it until you get the sound that YOU like and leave it at that, try them in store and stop watching these vid’s because you don’t get the pure sound in the room.
I find all ts sounding so bad and unatural as an overdrive for chords. Strange hype. The only domain where it shine, it for singing solo at low dist/vol on the pedal.
Yes, granted I’m a jazz guitarist who never used effects boxes, but I need distortion for a 20 piece guitar orchestra I’m in and my beef is when ever playing more than one note at a time it changes to sounding like the is a tear in the speaker.
I used to not understand tube screamers. I play a strat through a Hot Rod Deluxe, which is a darker amp. I tried a TS one day, and turned the tone knob up to 3 oclock. A whole new world opened up for me.
This video and your more recent Boss DS-1 video should be mandatory viewing for young guitar students. Excellent work.
TS-9 and Boss Blues Driver, both on my pedalboard for ever, no boutique pedals for me, these two are still the best, good video dude, ;)
Boutique is a scam. The legends didn’t need “boutique “
Same here!
Hey guys
I don't know much about amps
When we put the od in front of the amp
It drives always the clean channel?
Or it drives an already drive amp?
Sorry f m English
SRV stacked his ts i think, great info. Tks for the vids
People forget for years before he plugged straight into a cranked amp and that most of the gain is coming from the amp and NOT the pedals! They’re merely there as clean boosts.
Once I ran my TS-9 into my Boss Blues Driver (NOT the other way around) I never looked back. BD-2 on a moderate rhythm setting, TS added for solos with max level & low gain. It just screams, cuts through a band mix & even with BOTH pedals on is very dynamically responsive when using the guitar's volume knob. However it does not pair well with my Boss DS-1.
SRV did stacking Tube Screamers ;-) great video, thank you
I didn’t know that. I do know that when you stack overdrives it gives a great complex sound
I use an OCD clone on LP mode as the main overdrive on my pedalboard, and use a mini TS9 to boost into that - gain set no higher than 9 o'clock, level at maybe 1 or 2 o'clock and the tone at about 11. It works well to focus the sound and help solos and lead parts pop out of the mix. Both of my amps (a Marshall DSL20 and a Blackstar Debut 50r as a solid state backup) are British-voiced with a lot of mids so I don't really like trying to layer the distortion from the pedal itself on top of a clean tone. However, it works really well as a "social overdrive" as you describe it.
Often I won't even use the OD pedal when I'm playing through the Marshall as the "ultra gain" channel has a great sound of its own for modern distortion sounds, and the "classic gain" channel crunches up quite nicely with humbuckers for an edge of breakup sound. However, in both cases, the TS comes in really handy once again as a coloured boost. It basically adds a tighter, more aggressive voice to both channels, which the 40 watt version tries to do itself but fails imo (at least on the ultra gain channel).
That was awesome Jack, I was considering a second tube screamer so you have sealed the deal!!
Thanks for the tips and insights!! Learned something new 👍
Great playing Jack. I have enjoyed loads of music with tube screamer in it for sure, but I still don't want one myself.
I still have and use a Digitech Bad Monkey from when I started playing guitar. It was the first pedal I ever bought, based on a friends recommendation. Sometimes I think about selling it and buying a TS9 but eventually change my mind. I like running it by itself into my Princeton set to just breaking up.
If I want heavier tones I'll stack it into a Rat 🐀 with the Princeton clean. It sounds great and tightens the Rat up.
11:36 Jack, that’s a great Tube Screamer face!
I go the extra mile because I care.
And 1:10 😁.
Trey Anastasio does (did) with a Mesa Boogie. I don’t remember which Mesa Boogie, but I would bet it is (was) one of the early Mach’s.
Trey Anastasio stacks Tube Screamers.
I stack my 808 with Xotic effects BB. I will try dialing the tone knob down on the 808 its been set at 1 o'clock for 10 years.
If you stack them, you may not have to turn the tone back too much depending on the order and the way you run each. I actually had the TS9 tone set a little low in this video when I was stacking them, it could have stood to be brightened up a bit
SRV was the only player I know who stacked the TS. The interesting thing is it works better IMO when both pedals are set to zero gain and full volume boost. I’ve always loved the mid punch the Screamer gives that makes anything you play audibly pleasant at all volumes and at any gain stage of your amp. It’s just a great versatile pedal. Thankfully I have a modeler so I can sensibly put up to 4 of them in my effects chain without causing any issues!
I've been stacking ts9 into bd2 with my friends 76 twin reverb lately. Low practice volumes, super dynamic with my Esquire.
Yes. That Tube Screamer face at 11:42. 👍
I use the SD1 in front of my JCM 800 with a Les Paul custom and the TS9 on the green channel of my 5150 EVH with overdrive engaged and SD1 on red channel of 5150 with amp gain set at 2
I always have both pedals set the same way with drive at zero, tone at noon and level dimed
I run both the TS9 and the SD1 the same. Level dined, tone at 6 o’clock and drive at zero
The Tube Screamer sounds good on its own. With my own playing I never stack overdrives and distortion pedals. It's one or the other. I only sometimes stack one of these pedals with a subtle preamp pedal. Been playing Strats with a TS9 for years through Fender and Peavey combo style amps. Favorite TS9 setting: Drive at 10, Tone at 9, Level at unity or a touch above.
Hi Jack, these great overdrives have been guessed since their beginnings, but to them should be added the MXR GT-OD, the BOSS "Blues driver" and also the cheaper, but very good TC electronic "Cinders"... :-) Many greetings and congratulations for everything.
Greates Guitars, Greates OD's, best guitar play, THE BEST TEST;)) THANK YOU
My favourite TS stackings: TS into BD-2, and TS into OCD.
I'm using a Fender GTX100 with its onboard tube screamer modeling effec pedal. I gain stack a Klon clone and like to use it with the Deluxe Reverb amp model and a strat. I get pretty good tones with it.
enjoyed this video , lots of great information on employing this great circuit . stellar playing as always and i also really enjoyed your chicago stroy . next time you are here look me up and we will grab a pizza
I didn’t know you were in Chicago! I absolutely will. Hey - and I just remembered, do you happen to have those Marshall pedal knobs?
Tried mine through my new UAFX Drsam pedal... sounds really good😉😎👍
😎👍❤🖖
How do you like that? I haven't tried the new UA pedals.
@@JackFossett
Thanks for asking 😎👍
Have always had tube amps, but tubes and service wasn't cutting it anymore.
Went with Fender TMDR, but am worried about the fact tha it's cheaper to buy a new TMDR than to possibly fix 2 days after warranty runs out. Hurts my sensibilities.
Pedals always seem to last forever.
Therefore, tried UA's Dream...
My chase for tone, mods, cabs, artist settings and presets are done.
Actually plugged into the normal channel of the TMDR to a/b the two😉😎👍
Each is it's own take on a DR, but the Dream with its extras and tones shines through. Great feel.
Very pleased with the results 😉
Makes my pedalboard the heaviest and largest part of my rig.😎👍
You might want to check it out when you get the time, and let us know what you think? Hope this helps you in some say😎👍❤🖖
I had a Maxon OD-808, an original vintage one. I don't remember why I sold it one day but I regret it. I bought the Reissue but I didn't like it one bit. I still haven't been able to find an old original one. It's my favorite of the 3.
The OD-808 re-issue is actually a TS-10 circuit according to Analog Mike. The OD-9 is the only re-issue that's accurate to original build (TS-9).
For me, with a BB preamp at one end and a single band parametric EQ pedal that also provides an optional 10db of clean boost, at the other end.
that Delta King 12 is a real nice little amp.
would be great to hear some more pedals through it. try an acoustic through it.
great stuff! love your channel. thanks for sharing 👍🙂👍
Nice vid. I enjoyed the point that it’s a social overdrive. I’m a SD-1 user (basically Boss’ TS, as you know) and a klone fan (Emerson Goldenface currently, but I’ve had many over the years) and I use both of those pedals/circuits in many of the ways you describe. They’re usually feeding another source of gain, whether that’s a more neutral overdrive further down the signal path or the amps gain. I love running my SD-1 or my Goldenface into my Boss OD-3, there’s a lot of superb tones to be had that way. Have you ever tried an OD-3? I know you’re a BD-2 fan (at least the Keeley Super Phat Mod version), and I really think if you enjoyed that style of drive the OD-3 would be up your alley.
I have a 30th anniversary TS-9 (chrome green)and I run it into the 40 th anniversary (chrome red)TS-9. Glorious! I just bought a 1981 TS-9 that I can't wait to get to put into my pedalboard. I run my pedal board with an aby switcher into a soldano slo 100 and a Marshall 30 th anniversary (blue tolex). Any tone I want come from this combination. From great cleans to evil means!
Do you want to run the pedal through the front of the amp or through the fx loop in the back?
Dirt or distorted through front /delays and reverbs and such through back
TS9 is always on at low settings - when i play a solo i push the TS808 on - so they are both on. That in combination with a compressor is ideal for me. And sometimes i ran 2 tube screamers and an boss super overdrive at the same time :-)
Hi there
I don't know much about amps
The od pedal drives the clean channel?
Is this enough drive for blues rock?
Or
We drive the gain channel?
I smell Phish 😬
I love my OD808 but I want to buy a Boss OD-3 and stack the two. Should sound insane.
Hey man, great content btw. Anyhoo, I'm new to the pedal platform thing, I'd love to hear ur input. I'm running a v40 duchess which doesn't break up much, so I use a cheap klon clone for stage one gain and some breakup( it's a 40$ wish clone that sounds pretty dang good) and I have a ts9 after it for lead boosting. I feel like I'm on the right track but rolling off volume with the clone just doesn't seem to cut it. It just seems to lose tone hard-core. Should I try a better clone? The centavo seems like a good choice, I really like the clone circuit and I enjoy what the ts9 does, but something isn't right. Should I try a blues breaker? Prince of tone ? Tumnus? Idk I need direction, pls help😡
a TCE Zeus with treble up and drive down before my TS9 sounds very SRV
Thurston Moore sonic youth, used several Tube screamers I think 🤔
Just got a second hand behringer TS, if the level is too low the guitar gets quieter when pedal is enagaged. Normal or nah? I have no reference point :(
I’m sure I’ll get killed for this one but, the Demon FX red tube screamer is actually really good!
Never heard of that one I’m gonna look it up .i have a peavy hotfoot distortion that sounds so good turns out it’s a rat clone
I love Tube Scresmers. You don’t have to spend $500. If you go buy a stock current Ibanez TS9, they’re as good as any production year, right now. Same goes for the 808.
I believe SRV stacked 2 tube screamers
Srv stacked ts8's with 9s
Four hours and no one mentioned that Stevie Ray Vaughan was the one stacking Tube Screamers??
Do you know Dave Bullard?
I run a crybaby, to a ibanez ts9, to a boss ds1 ran through a Marshall jcm2000, I've noticed with the ts9 it causes my Amp to tweet (literally sounds like a little bird tweeting away) anyone know what that's about? Could it be a grounding issue? I. Not super tech savvy and I've never opened the pedal up to look.
Trey Anistasio stacks tube screamers
Rich Williams of Kansas uses 2 tube screamers I think.
Trey Anastasio stacks 2 TS
If you had a Blues Junior with a Cannabis Rex that you loved, would you bother getting a delta king 12? I do like Supro, I have a head, but was thinking about a small-ish Supro combo.... Thanks Jack
It is a very different amp -- whether or not you need it is another story, but I really like the Supro
6:35
DS-1w into CE-2w into TS
Jack ... somehow I strongly feel you would have been great in a Friday the 13th Movies series....
Had all the tube screamers by ibanez and maxxon, then the got a way huge green rhino………
Thats one of the few Way Huge Pedals I actually haven't played but would very much like to.
Garry Moore
The best tone you can get from any pedal is to mess with it until you get the sound that YOU like and leave it at that, try them in store and stop watching these vid’s because you don’t get the pure sound in the room.
I shall pass your own advice back to you, stop watching these videos.
@@JackFossett good advice
🍻
srevie ray
Stevie Ray Vaughan used two tube screamers stacked.
I find all ts sounding so bad and unatural as an overdrive for chords. Strange hype. The only domain where it shine, it for singing solo at low dist/vol on the pedal.
Yes, granted I’m a jazz guitarist who never used effects boxes, but I need distortion for a 20 piece guitar orchestra I’m in and my beef is when ever playing more than one note at a time it changes to sounding like the is a tear in the speaker.
SRV
SRV used multiple TS's at the same time.......
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Srv
5 minutes into a 9 minute video before we get to the topic
It’s not a 9 minute video.
I appreciate all the info in the beginning, sets up the video nicely.
@@JackFossett you just had to ruin his moment lol
I mean… if you’re going to troll me, at least do it properly.
maybe he meant 30 seconds into a 17 minute video before we get to the topic?