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Great video. I’m 2 mins in and I’m hearing of drive thru chargers suitable for a trailer being towed. I hope to do a tour around Norway soon with our caravan- so this is great to hear.
Insane projects in Norway, I'm a little bit jealous 😊
i am very jealous rn. i wish we had this infrastructure in Canada
well you cannot slow down, as Norwegians are going completely electric, almost all cars sold in Norway are now EVs...
That's kool here in America we still have a right to choose. I'll keep my jaguar XJL I only fuel up (once a month) and takes me 3 to 5 minutes and offers me a range of 570 miles which supersedes any EV. Only cost me 41 thousand dollars and costs me 40 to 50 bucks a month to fully fuel. For that, ill buy the gas. But im hopeing that one day they will improve the EV with the same few minutes to fully charge from absolute 0 to 100 percent and with a range of atleast 500 pluss miles. Do that, now we're talkin!!!! I'll buy one immediately. Im a long distance traveler and i just don't have the need for a short range car, gas or electric. And besides, all them chargers and lines dangling makes the street look shitty. In my neighborhood we don't have poles. We have a few streetlights and thats it. Cars are parked nicely. They should come up with a better look....
@@carlsmith5545Gas station look pretty? Smog in the air looks pretty to you? Also this comment feels like confirmation bias, almost like you wanted someone to argue against, the original commenter wasn’t even referring to you but you responded as if they where being antagonistic?
Also buy Tesla plaid then, no joke, there long range
Sign of the times ... "removing two fuel pumps replacing with 2 chargers oh and another 6 high power chargers"
The market for petrol/gasoline is disappearing quickly, so the pumps are replaced with chargers that make you money and bring you customers. Diesel is slower to decrease, since it is still used for heavier vehicles.
I think fast food has been the big income for decades already, so now big changes for the owner/renter.
dam....we need to catch up in the states!
2:39 Can you put the plug on the hook in the flap? Thank you! 😊
Good job guys! Spread the word! This is awesome.
Very interesting!
Are you going to review the Xpeng G9😊
Nice video Kris
Why don't you emphasise that 50 kW chargers are most efficient as they don't require much cooling and most EVs ready to accept 50 kW also with no battery cooling.
It isn't a bad thing to charge DC at 50 kW especially if you went to IKEA for look around
Look around two hours, and then eat 45 minutes...
@@leiflillandt1488 but this means 50kWh + 50kWh + 50×3/4kWh. Not that many cars can receive such amount of energy.
Having dc fast charger at an ikea is kind of useless though, no way you can manage to go through ikea before charging is done :P
Good video Chris
God video Kris....
Men jeg venter stadig på din video af C40 fra Norge til Afrika🎉😉
Yes me too, I would have loved to have seen that!
Hey Kris - I’d love to hear your thoughts on how Australia can catch up as we are behind where we need to be!
@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV. It's never going to happen in Australia, let alone Kangaroo Island.
KI's supply is from a mainland cable, which would need to be upgraded if mass adoption of EVs were to happen.
@@CNile-se9xwIn Australia the future is solar panels, batteries and charge station, all in one unit.
It's really no hurry, because most of the cars sold are more or less prototypes. There will be some improvements in the future and then also more different types of cars, and at least as an option cars with longer range, even though most people dont need much longer range than today's cars offer. There are improvements every year, at least small ones.
@@CNile-se9xw it is happening - KI is getting our first RAA 150kw charger for visitors in February. Locals such as myself will charge at home from solar.
@@leiflillandt1488 If your ultimate goal is to do completely away with fossil fuels, the 24/7 "all in one unit" model is impractical & super expensive., They would need acres & acres of solar panels & the battery storage would be massively expensive.
The bigger the "all in one unit", the bigger the problem.
When you say high powered chargepoint 9:43 are you referring to the brand Chargepoint or charge dispenser?
I don't think there are Chargepoint branded dispensers in Norway.
Not the brand Chargepoint. All the charging stations shown in this video are operated by Recharge and most are produced by either Kempower or Alpitronic.
Nice video. Maybe you should get your own HPC at home. Just like Out of Spec Kyle have.
I like recharge, they build nice chargers at great locations, but I find myself never using them. I always opt for the superchargers, as they are cheaper. Price usually always dictate where i charge.
do you meet a lot of regular EVs at the Superchargers?
Gotta ask, how is the power produced for all those chargers 🤔? If it's in the video sorry
We have 96% hydropower and 4% wind power in Norway. We also produce and export power through 17 cables to the UK, Germany, Niederland, Sweden, Finland and Denmark.
For the Oslo region, it's 95% from hydro-power, 5% from wind (across a year). For Norway as a whole, "only" 99% is from renewables, as 1% comes from a gas powered power plant (that is used to power a gas processing plant for LNG exports)
Hi, Stian at Recharge here. We buy electricity from renewable sources for all the chargers you see in this video. Norwegian electricity production is about 92% hydro power and 6.5% wind.
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What is the price of a charge station and maintenance and what is its life expactancy and why is it not made by reneweble energy?
Why do YOU care what energy is used? Do you think burning fossil fuels is a really bad thing for the planet's climate and local air quality?
We buy 100% renewable electricity for all the charge points shown in this video. The life expectancy of this equipment is between 5-10 years. Kind regards, Stian at Recharge
I couldn't get the charge points to work at IKEA, but round the corner at Esso Slependen, never a problem.
Just wondering, how many ice cars/ vans / + PHEV vs BEV are their in Norway. I know news cars are 80 or 90 % . But ppl drive sometimes at least 10 years
For cars and vans combined it is 20% BEV, 24% gasoline, 45% diesel, 6% PHEV and 5% non-plugin hybrids. Stian/Recharge
Where did you find this Viking God?
Norway, the land of future , love working there and beeing a part of «det grønne skifte»
the old 50 kw charger should be fore sale too public or corporate use
I don’t want to be a partypooper here, but your intro about charging capital of the world is incorrect. Amsterdam (likely) is. End of 2022 they already had ~6000 AC charge sockets (~ 3000 points), most of them offering 22kw charging and most of them are EVBox Businessline units, at this time likely around 7000 (their plan is to have 9000 by 2025). Then the density, Amsterdam is way smaller than Oslo, Oslo is the biggest city in Europe (in size). With DC chargers Amsterdam will lose, as it does not have that many. Take a trip there, you will see chargers practically everywhere. Fairly odd, as Norway, and especially Oslo has way more EV’s.
"Oslo is the biggest city in Europe (in size)" - No no no. Nonsense!
Rovaniemi is the largest city in Europe in terms of surface area, although it has a small population...
I’ve been driving EV for 5 years now. When I bought it it’s insane as I was the first in my family buying one, now every one has one.
Even so with owning an EV I was finally able to save money towards a house. Before every krone went to pay diesel and tolls. And lots of repairs. Even tho the car was only 8 years.
If you had lots of repairs then you had junk. Gas or electric, you'll still pay tolls. Im thinking about getting an EV but for local destinations and work only. But when it comes to making the 831 mile trip from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida, USA 3 times a year, I'll get my jaguar XJL out of the garage. With a range of 570 miles, it doesn't matter how many times i stop for what ever reason, i only have to stop once to fuel and takes me 3 to 5 minutes and im up and out, not 20 minutes or 20 hours! Traveling through the night when everyone is home and out of my way, it takes me 11.5 to 12.5 hours to complete the trip. 14 to 15.5 by EV or better than both, highspeed bullet train technology which is also, (fully electric) but unfortunately the american government and the american people don't see it that way thus the reason why highspeed bullet train technology doesn't exsist in the mighty United States of America. These ultimate (Electrical) technical engineering modern marvels of transportation can be experienced only in the far more advanced countries of the far east and Europe. So here in the United States of America when it comes to travel, you better have a long range car that gives you the ability to, (keep moving). It's a shame that short downtimes and long range is reserved for gas cars only and hopefully one day they will improve the EV with these fine qualities and improvements which is something they should of done from day 1. We'll see what the future holds. My cousin has a so called (long range) Tesla model Y 333 miles of range. He loves it but he said when it comes to making that Florida trip, it really sucks. So he to uses his Tesla for everyday local destinations and for long distance travel, he to turned to the cat family. He brought the smaller jaguar XF 20d which has a range of 731 miles which supersedes any EV anywhere on earth. About 160 miles greater than mine. So im going to buy an EV for local destinations. Which one is the question. Im open to suggestions.....
*capital, not capitol. I think?
Nope, Capitol is correct 😊
In my country the EVs are too expensive, about 1.5 to 3 times more expensive than combustion engined cars or hybrid cars. You can get a small subsidy from the government if you buy an EV, but still it is way too expensive. But we do have lots and lots of public chargers and charging stations. And even more home chargers. But I’m postponing buying an EV until they get cheaper or until it’s inevitable because of government rules and laws.
You know , I think MG 4(?) costs in China less than 20,000 euro and in (some) EU countries about 45,000 euro.
Is then the car cheap but the price high, or vice versa?
Where do you live? In Poland where I come from EVs are more expensive but no 2 or 3 times more - modern ICE cars' prices are also very high lately. You can easily get a Tesla for a price of well specked VW or Skoda. And Tesla will still have 50% more power!
This really feels like an advertisement for Recharge..
... discounting Tesla, this is still not the biggest in Europe (unless UK doesnt count which is fair enough :-)
"New Gigahub™ at the NEC (birmingham England) boasts 30 ultra-fast 150KW and 150 fast 7kW charge points enabling 180 EVs to charge simultaneously."
Also Exeter (motorway services SW England) has 26 chargers with 38 conectors (eg some are dual) plus I would guess about 20+ Tesla only.
Still very impressive though and the cables on those Kempower are awesome..
From what Ive seen in UK IKEA, if you are lucky they may have two old school 50kW chargers.
England is not in Northern Europe. Scotland can be if they want to. 😅 Biggest XYZ in Northern Europe is sort of a standing joke, since you sometimes have to shrink that area a bit for the statement to be true.
CapitOl is a parliament og government building; CapitAl is a place: the main place, the most important, best place
I don’t get why you have so many DC chargers in the city centre. AC is much more useful. Not as resource intensive and gets the job done while you have errands. Don’t forget cars are only used 40 minutes every 24 hours. I don’t understand this at all…
That's enough for safety reasons and you don't need such high voltages when you use DC.
We also use direct current on the latest cables when we export electricity to neighboring countries and on tram lines inside the cities. You can use 10000V AC or 600V DC
To make money. Not on the electricity, but on the people who are stuck there for 20 minutes and want a bathroom break and a snack.
There are many AC chargers in Oslo as well, but there is also a need for DC charging when people don't have the time to plug in for hours. Kind regards, Stian at Recharge
I wonder if any of them EVs has a 500 mile range yet?
@@dynevor6327 That's great. I keep on hopeing that they improve the EV so i can buy one. The Lucid Safire is over 200 thousand dollars and The Lucid air is just under 100 thousand dollars. I brought a used 2021 jaguar XJl with only 18 thousand miles on it at 41 thousand dollars. I only fuel up once a month and takes me about 3 to 5 minutes to do so. My range is 570 miles but i refuel with a quarter tank of gas left so make that 515 miles. Im a long distance traveler and just have no use for a SRV (Short Range Vehicle) gas or electric. But i do sincerely hope that one day they improve the EV with these fine qualities and improvements. Or better yet, build highspeed bullet trains which is also, (fully electric)...lol! Here in America.
Why is that important?
@dynevor6327 that one time. You skip out of the better option because of one trip you took, once?
Charging for a 1600km trip will be about 3 -4 hours over 16-22 hours of driving. Betcha you rested more yhan yhst on that fabled trip.
@@johnn17golf One trip? Lol!!! My family in the state of Pennsylvania travels to see family in Jacksonville Florida, USA I make that 831 mile trip from Lancaster Pennsylvania to Jacksonville Florida, USA 3 times a year. Im a very strong traveler and can drive for long periods of time. I sleep 8 to 10 hours and put a light breakfast in my belly and a very small cup of coffee before i hit the road. My car is a full size luxury automobile and offers great comfort. The wife likes to jump in the back, put on the Bose headphones and watches movies on the TV monitors on the back of the head rests. I travel by night when everyone is home and out of my way. Yes ofcourse we stop to use the restrooms. Light foods are packed in a small cooler. It doesn't matter how many times i stop for what ever reason, i only have to stop once to fuel and takes me 3 to 5 minutes and im up and out. I reach my destination in 11.5 to 12.5 hours. My cousin has a so called (long range) tesla model Y. He makes the same trip also but from Reading Pennsylvania, an additional 30 miles. It took him just under 15 hours. He went out and brought the Jaguar XF 20d which has a range of 731 miles. He keeps it in the garage and covered and only uses it for long distance travels and uses his Tesla for everyday local destinations. I looked at the Jaguar XF 20d but to small for me. He told me never again will i ever take that trip in an EV. Im thinking of doing the same thing. Wash, wax and polish my jaguar XJl, put it in the garage and cover it and use it only for long distance travels. Get an EV and use that for local destinations including work. Yes i can do that until EVs are made as long range cars. Now question is, which EV? Any suggestions? And hell no I'm not pay no hundred grand for any car gas or electric. If i do that I'll get a Lamborghini..lol!! Its a shame that short downtimes and long range is reserved for gas cars only. But the good people at Tesla told me quote, "Have patience because that day is coming." Then I'll have that patients for that day.
@@dynevor6327 Oh my god, a 3 hour sit? Damn i wish they would stop screwing around and improve the EV with short downtimes and long range.
I could not live in Norway, since there is no way I could afford a ev :(
Living in Norway, getting Norwegian salary it's not that expensive anymore.
@@ahlsn7346 i saw you did not have to pay tax when buying a ev so guess its cheaper then in sweden then. (But i cant afford an ev in sweden either.. its like twice the money what i pay for my house each month for a entry level car)
If you live and work in Norway then you can get an EV, eventually. Nordic countries and even more so Norway, does not have working poor.
@@znail4675 i am above average income in sweden (country next to norway) by margin. But dont think I can afford one. It would be like $700 a month.
If you believe some people commenting, EVs plummet in price after a couple of years, so you can buy a used one for very little money. Could you afford Norwegian dinosaur juice? That is the question.
"Fun" fact: To charge an EV (when you are not charging at home) it costs more to fill the battery than to use fuel.
That’s the dumbest and most untrue thing I’ve heard in a long time 🙈🙈😬
@@KrisRifa Note his screen handle - everything is as expected - and I love a good Swede, perhaps not so much the latter part of his/her screen handle.
Certainly not, at least not in Sweden (which your nickname suggests that you are). A modern EV uses about 17kWh/100km. Today's charging price at Tesla stations (the cheapest option these days) is 3.05 SEK/kWh. So that's 5.20 SEK/10 km. You would need a car that manages 2.8l/100km just to break even with that.
You forgot to show us the diesel generators that supply the electricity. 🤔
We have 96% hydropower and 4% wind power in Norway. We also produce and export power through 17 cables to the UK, Germany, Holland, Sweden, Finland, Denmark.
...and then we make diesel and sell it to you. 😁
@@lpdude2005haha epic response
I'm ashamed of my country
Seems that Norway is continuing towards EV disaster...
How so? I think they show it's working very well even when almost all new cars are EV.
@@ahlsn7346 The degredation of the environment caused by Lithium mining, using up a very limited non-replenishable resources like Lithium, while oil is in constant abundance. Not recycling the Lithium in the batteries, too a short life span of EV's, massive depreciation..
Too many points to list.
@@xraylife Oh so the usual lies. Litium batteries are reused for many years after the cars life time and then the materials will be recycles because it's profitable to do so. You talk about destroying the environment and then use oil as the comparison for better alternative? Maybe time to read up on the environment issues caused by oil?
@@ahlsn7346 Prove that Lithium is recycled.
@@xraylifeit’s time understand technology development. Remember that Porsches first car was electric, but technology was not mature enough. Very soon an EV will be cheaper to build than a petrol. EVs require less maintenance, they are faster and more energy efficient.
There are no EVs to recycle yet. The oldest cars are 10 years old
In a communist country like Norway you can dictate what vehicles are sold by mandate. 🧐
You are probably kidding, but long story short: We had huge taxes on new cars, then electric cars came along, and they were cute and didn't pollute, so we decided not to have huge taxes on those. It is better for everybody not to breathe exhaust. That way electric cars became the same price as piston engine cars before the rest of the world. At the same price, almost nobody wants an internal combustion engine in their car. Those are just trouble waiting to happen.
That says a lot about your education and knowledge 😂 Perhaps educate yourself before opening your mouth. I would be embarrased.
@@ankra12 🎯